From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 1 13:37:43 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h41HbhT07791 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:37:43 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h41HbTD07715 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:37:29 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h41HbQM07699 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:37:27 -0400 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BHyd-0004fA-00 for ; Thu, 01 May 2003 19:36:11 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BHyb-0004ev-00 for ; Thu, 01 May 2003 19:36:09 +0200 From: deskpot@despammed.com (Vasily Korytov) Subject: [gmane.emacs.gnus.general] Gnus v5.10 is released Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 21:38:11 +0400 Lines: 573 Message-ID: <87el3i4lfg.fsf@unix.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zzoFEpzieN/pSTNXISnOKKtA4Jg= Sender: news X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_FOUND,DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,GAPPY_TEXT,WEIRD_PORT version=2.31 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit é ÎÁ ÎÁÛÅÊ ÕÌÉÃÅ ÐÒÁÚÄÎÉË. --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail Message-ID: From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Gnus v5.10 is released Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 18:16:09 +0200 Lines: 512 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Approved: news@gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051805969 25868 80.91.224.249 (1 May 2003 16:19:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 16:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M645@lists.math.uh.edu Thu May 01 18:19:26 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BGmL-0006iz-00 for ; Thu, 01 May 2003 18:19:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19BGnN-0006fP-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 11:20:29 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19BGnH-0006fF-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 01 May 2003 11:20:23 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 68482 invoked by alias); 1 May 2003 16:20:22 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 68475 invoked from network); 1 May 2003 16:20:22 -0000 Original-Received: from quimbies.gnus.org (80.91.231.2) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 1 May 2003 16:20:22 -0000 Original-Received: from larsi by quimbies.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BGnF-00010v-00 for ; Thu, 01 May 2003 18:20:21 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Billy Bragg's _The Internationale_: "The Red Flag" Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52102 Xref: unix.home gmane.emacs.gnus.general:1126 MIME-Version: 1.0 After two and a half years of Oort Gnus, we're now out of the interstellar fog and into a proper Gnus release. Get it from or "/ftp@quimby.gnus.org:/pub/gnus/". To further celebrate the day, I'm making Oort Gnus t-shirts. If you want one, go to and buy one. Or several. Or not! * Changes in Oort Gnus ** The revised Gnus FAQ is included in the manual. See the info node "Frequently Asked Questions". ** Upgrading from previous (stable) version if you have used Oort. If you have tried Oort (the unstable Gnus branch leading to this release) but went back to a stable version, be careful when upgrading to this version. In particular, you will probably want to remove all .marks (nnml) and .mrk (nnfolder) files, so that flags are read from your ~/.newsrc.eld instead of from the .marks/.mrk file where this release store flags. See a later entry for more information about marks. Note that downgrading isn't save in general. ** Article Buttons More buttons for URLs, mail addresses, Message-IDs, Info links, man pages and Emacs or Gnus related references, see the info node "Article Buttons". The variables `gnus-button-*-level' can be used to control the appearance of all article buttons, see the info node "Article Button Levels". ** Dired integration `gnus-dired-minor-mode' installs key bindings in dired buffers to send a file as an attachment (`C-c C-a'), open a file using the approriate mailcap entry (`C-c C-l'), and print a file using the mailcap entry (`C-c P'). It is enabled with (add-hook 'dired-mode-hook 'turn-on-gnus-dired-mode) ** Gnus can display RSS newsfeeds as a newsgroup. To get started do `B nnrss RET RET' in the Group buffer. ** Single-part yenc encoded attachments can be decoded. ** Picons The picons code has been reimplemented to work in GNU Emacs -- some of the previous options have been removed or renamed. Picons are small "personal icons" representing users, domain and newsgroups, which can be displayed in the Article buffer. To enable picons, install the picons database from http://www.cs.indiana.edu/picons/ftp/index.html and point `gnus-picon-databases' to that location. ** If the new option `gnus-treat-body-boundary' is `head', a boundary line is drawn at the end of the headers. ** Retrieval of charters and control messages There are new commands for fetching newsgroup charters (`H c') and control messages (`H C'). ** Delayed articles You can delay the sending of a message with `C-c C-j' in the Message buffer. The messages are delivered at specified time. This is useful for sending yourself reminders. Setup with (gnus-delay-initialize). ** If `auto-compression-mode' is enabled, attachments are automatically decompressed when activated. ** If the new option `nnml-use-compressed-files' is non-nil, the nnml back end allows compressed message files. ** Signed article headers (X-PGP-Sig) can be verified with `W p'. ** The Summary Buffer uses an arrow in the fringe to indicate the current article. Use (setq gnus-summary-display-arrow nil) to disable it. ** Warn about email replies to news Do you often find yourself replying to news by email by mistake? Then the new option `gnus-confirm-mail-reply-to-news' is just the thing for you. ** If the new option `gnus-summary-display-while-building' is non-nil, the summary buffer is shown and updated as it's being built. ** The new `recent' mark "." indicates newly arrived messages (as opposed to old but unread messages). ** The new option `gnus-gcc-mark-as-read' automatically marks Gcc articles as read. ** The nndoc back end now supports mailman digests and exim bounces. ** Gnus supports RFC 2369 mailing list headers, and adds a number of related commands in mailing list groups. ** The Date header can be displayed in a format that can be read aloud in English, see `gnus-treat-date-english'. ** The envelope sender address can be customized when using Sendmail, see `message-sendmail-envelope-from'. ** diffs are automatically highlighted in groups matching `mm-uu-diff-groups-regexp' ** TLS wrapper shipped with Gnus TLS/SSL is now supported in IMAP and NNTP via tls.el and GNUTLS. The old TLS/SSL support via (external third party) ssl.el and OpenSSL still works. ** New make.bat for compiling and installing Gnus under MS Windows Use make.bat if you want to install Gnus under MS Windows, the first argument to the batch-program should be the directory where xemacs.exe respectively emacs.exe is located, iff you want to install Gnus after compiling it, give make.bat /copy as the second parameter. Make.bat has been rewritten from scratch, it now features automatic recognition of XEmacs and GNU Emacs, generates gnus-load.el, checks if errors occur while compilation and generation of info files and reports them at the end of the build process. It now uses makeinfo if it is available and falls back to infohack.el otherwise. Make.bat should now install all files which are necessary to run Gnus and be generally a complete replacement for the "configure; make; make install" cycle used under Unix systems. The new make.bat makes make-x.bat superfluous, so it has been removed. ** Support for non-ASCII domain names Message supports non-ASCII domain names in From:, To: and Cc: and will query you whether to perform encoding when you try to send a message. The variable `message-use-idna' controls this. Gnus will also decode non-ASCII domain names in From:, To: and Cc: when you view a message. The variable `gnus-use-idna' controls this. ** Better handling of Microsoft citation styles Gnus now tries to recognize the mangled header block that some Microsoft mailers use to indicate that the rest of the message is a citation, even though it is not quoted in any way. The variable `gnus-cite-unsightly-citation-regexp' matches the start of these citations. ** gnus-article-skip-boring If you set `gnus-article-skip-boring' to t, then Gnus will not scroll down to show you a page that contains only boring text, which by default means cited text and signature. You can customize what is skippable using `gnus-article-boring-faces'. This feature is especially useful if you read many articles that consist of a little new content at the top with a long, untrimmed message cited below. ** The format spec %C for positioning point has changed to %*. ** The new variable `gnus-parameters' can be used to set group parameters. Earlier this was done only via `G p' (or `G c'), which stored the parameters in ~/.newsrc.eld, but via this variable you can enjoy the powers of customize, and simplified backups since you set the variable in ~/.emacs instead of ~/.newsrc.eld. The variable maps regular expressions matching group names to group parameters, a'la: (setq gnus-parameters '(("mail\\..*" (gnus-show-threads nil) (gnus-use-scoring nil)) ("^nnimap:\\(foo.bar\\)$" (to-group . "\\1")))) ** Smileys (":-)", ";-)" etc) are now iconized for Emacs too. Put (setq gnus-treat-display-smileys nil) in ~/.emacs to disable it. ** Gnus no longer generate the Sender: header automatically. Earlier it was generated iff the user configurable email address was different from the Gnus guessed default user address. As the guessing algorithm is rarely correct these days, and (more controversally) the only use of the Sender: header was to check if you are entitled to cancel/supersede news (which is now solved by Cancel Locks instead, see another entry), generation of the header has been disabled by default. See the variables `message-required-headers', `message-required-news-headers', and `message-required-mail-headers'. ** Features from third party message-utils.el added to message.el. Message now asks if you wish to remove "(was: )" from subject lines (see `message-subject-trailing-was-query'). C-c M-m and C-c M-f inserts markers indicating included text. C-c C-f a adds a X-No-Archive: header. C-c C-f x inserts appropriate headers and a note in the body for cross-postings and followups (see the variables `message-cross-post-*'). ** References and X-Draft-Headers are no longer generated when you start composing messages and `message-generate-headers-first' is nil. ** Improved anti-spam features. Gnus is now able to take out spam from your mail and news streams using a wide variety of programs and filter rules. Among the supported methods are RBL blocklists, bogofilter and white/blacklists. Hooks for easy use of external packages such as SpamAssassin and Hashcash are also new. ** Easy inclusion of X-Faces headers. ** In the summary buffer, the new command / N inserts new messages and / o inserts old messages. ** Gnus decodes morse encoded messages if you press W m. ** Unread count correct in nnimap groups. The estimated number of unread articles in the group buffer should now be correct for nnimap groups. This is achieved by calling `nnimap-fixup-unread-after-getting-new-news' from the `gnus-setup-news-hook' (called on startup) and gnus-after-getting-new-news-hook. (called after getting new mail). If you have modified those variables from the default, you may want to add n-f-u-a-g-n-n again. If you were happy with the estimate and want to save some (minimal) time when getting new mail, remove the function. ** Group Carbon Copy (GCC) quoting To support groups that contains SPC and other weird characters, groups are quoted before they are placed in the Gcc: header. This means variables such as `gnus-message-archive-group' should no longer contain quote characters to make groups containing SPC work. Also, if you are using the string "nnml:foo, nnml:bar" (indicating Gcc into two groups) you must change it to return the list ("nnml:foo" "nnml:bar"), otherwise the Gcc: line will be quoted incorrectly. Note that returning the string "nnml:foo, nnml:bar" was incorrect earlier, it just didn't generate any problems since it was inserted directly. ** ~/News/overview/ not used. As a result of the following change, the ~/News/overview/ directory is not used any more. You can safely delete the entire hierarchy. ** gnus-agent The Gnus Agent has seen a major updated and is now enabled by default, and all nntp and nnimap servers from gnus-select-method and gnus-secondary-select-method are agentized by default. Earlier only the server in gnus-select-method was agentized by the default, and the agent was disabled by default. When the agent is enabled, headers are now also retrieved from the Agent cache instead of the backends when possible. Earlier this only happened in the unplugged state. You can enroll or remove servers with `J a' and `J r' in the server buffer. Gnus will not download articles into the Agent cache, unless you instruct it to do so, though, by using `J u' or `J s' from the Group buffer. You revert to the old behaviour of having the Agent disabled with `(setq gnus-agent nil)'. Note that putting (gnus-agentize) in ~/.gnus is not needed any more. ** gnus-summary-line-format The default value changed to "%U%R%z%I%(%[%4L: %-23,23f%]%) %s\n". Moreover gnus-extra-headers, nnmail-extra-headers and gnus-ignored-from-addresses changed their default so that the users name will be replaced by the recipient's name or the group name posting to for NNTP groups. ** deuglify.el (gnus-article-outlook-deuglify-article) A new file from Raymond Scholz for deuglifying broken Outlook (Express) articles. ** (require 'gnus-load) If you use a stand-alone Gnus distribution, you'd better add (require 'gnus-load) into your ~/.emacs after adding the Gnus lisp directory into load-path. File gnus-load.el contains autoload commands, functions and variables, some of which may not be included in distributions of Emacsen. ** gnus-slave-unplugged A new command which starts gnus offline in slave mode. ** message-insinuate-rmail Adding (message-insinuate-rmail) and (setq mail-user-agent 'gnus-user-agent) in .emacs convinces Rmail to compose, reply and forward messages in message-mode, where you can enjoy the power of MML. ** message-minibuffer-local-map The line below enables BBDB in resending a message: (define-key message-minibuffer-local-map [(tab)] 'bbdb-complete-name) ** Externalizing and deleting of attachments. If gnus-gcc-externalize-attachments (or message-fcc-externalize-attachments) is non-nil, attach local files as external parts. The command gnus-mime-save-part-and-strip (bound to `C-o' on MIME buttons) saves a part and replaces the part with an external one. gnus-mime-delete-part (bound to `d' on MIME buttons) removes a part. It works only on back ends that support editing. ** gnus-default-charset The default value is determined from the current-language-environment variable, instead of 'iso-8859-1. Also the ".*" item in gnus-group-charset-alist is removed. ** gnus-posting-styles Add a new format of match like ((header "to" "larsi.*org") (Organization "Somewhere, Inc.")) The old format like the lines below is obsolete, but still accepted. (header "to" "larsi.*org" (Organization "Somewhere, Inc.")) ** message-ignored-news-headers and message-ignored-mail-headers X-Draft-From and X-Gnus-Agent-Meta-Information have been added into these two variables. If you customized those, perhaps you need add those two headers too. ** Gnus reads the NOV and articles in the Agent if plugged. If one reads an article while plugged, and the article already exists in the Agent, it won't get downloaded once more. (setq gnus-agent-cache nil) reverts to the old behavior. ** Gnus supports the "format=flowed" (RFC 2646) parameter. On composing messages, it is enabled by `use-hard-newlines'. Decoding format=flowed was present but not documented in earlier versions. ** Gnus supports the generation of RFC 2298 Disposition Notification requests. This is invoked with the C-c M-n key binding from message mode. ** Gnus supports Maildir groups. Gnus includes a new backend nnmaildir.el. ** Printing capabilities are enhanced. Gnus supports Muttprint natively with O P from the Summary and Article buffers. Also, each individual MIME part can be printed using p on the MIME button. ** Message supports the Importance: (RFC 2156) header. In the message buffer, `C-c C-f C-i' or `C-c C-u' cycles through the valid values. ** Gnus supports Cancel Locks in News. This means a header "Cancel-Lock" is inserted in news posting. It is used to determine if you wrote a article or not (for cancelling and superseding). Gnus generates a random password string the first time you post a message, and saves it in your ~/.emacs using the Custom system. While the variable is called `canlock-password', it is not security sensitive data. Publishing your canlock string on the web will not allow anyone to be able to anything she could not already do. The behaviour can be changed by customizing `message-insert-canlock'. ** Gnus supports server-side mail filtering using Sieve. Sieve rules can be added as Group Parameters for groups, and the complete Sieve script is generated using `D g' from the Group buffer, and then uploaded to the server using `C-c C-l' in the generated Sieve buffer. Search the online Gnus manual for "sieve", and see the new Sieve manual, for more information. ** Extended format specs. Format spec "%&user-date;" is added into gnus-summary-line-format-alist. Also, user defined extended format specs are supported. The extended format specs look like "%u&foo;", which invokes function gnus-user-format-function-foo. Because "&" is used as the escape character, old user defined format "%u&" is no longer supported. ** `/ *' (gnus-summary-limit-include-cached) is rewritten. It was aliased to `Y c' (gnus-summary-insert-cached-articles). The new function filters out other articles. ** Some limiting commands accept a C-u prefix to negate the match. If C-u is used on subject, author or extra headers, i.e., `/ s', `/ a', and `/ x' (gnus-summary-limit-to-{subject,author,extra}) respectively, the result will be to display all articles that do not match the expression. ** Group names are treated as UTF-8 by default. This is supposedly what USEFOR wanted to migrate to. See `gnus-group-name-charset-group-alist' and `gnus-group-name-charset-method-alist' for customization. ** The nnml and nnfolder backends store marks for each groups. This makes it possible to take backup of nnml/nnfolder servers/groups separately of ~/.newsrc.eld, while preserving marks. It also makes it possible to share articles and marks between users (without sharing the ~/.newsrc.eld file) within e.g. a department. It works by storing the marks stored in ~/.newsrc.eld in a per-group file ".marks" (for nnml) and "groupname.mrk" (for nnfolder, named "groupname"). If the nnml/nnfolder is moved to another machine, Gnus will automatically use the .marks or .mrk file instead of the information in ~/.newsrc.eld. The new server variables `nnml-marks-is-evil' and `nnfolder-marks-is-evil' can be used to disable this feature. ** The menu bar item (in Group and Summary buffer) named "Misc" has been renamed to "Gnus". ** The menu bar item (in Message mode) named "MML" has been renamed to "Attachments". Note that this menu also contains security related stuff, like signing and encryption. ** gnus-group-charset-alist and gnus-group-ignored-charsets-alist. The regexps in these variables are compared with full group names instead of real group names in 5.8. Users who customize these variables should change those regexps accordingly. For example: ("^han\\>" euc-kr) -> ("\\(^\\|:\\)han\\>" euc-kr) ** Gnus supports PGP (RFC 1991/2440), PGP/MIME (RFC 2015/3156) and ** S/MIME (RFC 2630-2633). It needs an external S/MIME and OpenPGP implementation, but no additional lisp libraries. This add several menu items to the Attachments menu, and C-c RET key bindings, when composing messages. This also obsoletes `gnus-article-hide-pgp-hook'. ** Gnus inlines external parts (message/external). ** MML (Mime compose) prefix changed from `M-m' to `C-c C-m'. This change was made to avoid conflict with the standard binding of `back-to-indentation', which is also useful in message mode. ** Bug fixes. * Changes in Pterodactyl Gnus (5.8/5.9) The Gnus NEWS entries are short, but they reflect sweeping changes in four areas: Article display treatment, MIME treatment, internationalization and mail-fetching. ** The mail-fetching functions have changed. See the manual for the many details. In particular, all procmail fetching variables are gone. If you used procmail like in (setq nnmail-use-procmail t) (setq nnmail-spool-file 'procmail) (setq nnmail-procmail-directory "~/mail/incoming/") (setq nnmail-procmail-suffix "\\.in") this now has changed to (setq mail-sources '((directory :path "~/mail/incoming/" :suffix ".in"))) More information is available in the info doc at Select Methods -> Getting Mail -> Mail Sources ** Gnus is now a MIME-capable reader. This affects many parts of Gnus, and adds a slew of new commands. See the manual for details. ** Gnus has also been multilingualized. This also affects too many parts of Gnus to summarize here, and adds many new variables. ** gnus-auto-select-first can now be a function to be called to position point. ** The user can now decide which extra headers should be included in summary buffers and NOV files. ** `gnus-article-display-hook' has been removed. Instead, a number of variables starting with `gnus-treat-' have been added. ** The Gnus posting styles have been redone again and now works in a subtly different manner. ** New web-based backends have been added: nnslashdot, nnwarchive and nnultimate. nnweb has been revamped, again, to keep up with ever-changing layouts. ** Gnus can now read IMAP mail via nnimap. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen --=-=-= -- I accept RFC3156 and RFC2440-compatible encrypted mail. PGP key fingerprint: 123A 7CCE 6E26 6233 0D87 E01A A0F8 3524 FCD8 1841 --=-=-=-- From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 1 13:44:08 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h41Hi8u10196 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:44:08 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h41HhuI10121 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:43:56 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h41HhuM10112 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:43:56 -0400 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BI3W-00058e-00 for ; Thu, 01 May 2003 19:41:14 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BI2b-00055W-00 for ; Thu, 01 May 2003 19:40:17 +0200 From: deskpot@despammed.com (Vasily Korytov) Subject: Re: GNUS Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 21:42:08 +0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <878ytq4l8v.fsf@unix.home> References: <87wuhexjj8.fsf@santinel.ua> <20030429154210.31191583.vsu@altlinux.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZlTfzv39fFZzhDc9z2fMvPXZ6qI= Sender: news X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_FOUND,MIME_EXCESSIVE_QP version=2.31 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:42:10 +0400, Sergey Vlasov wrote: > =EC=C9=C2=CF =C4=CF=C2=C1=D7=C9=D4=D8 (require 'cl), =CC=C9=C2=CF (car (c= dr (cdr ....))) =E1 =C5=DD=C5 =C5=D3=D4=D8 =D3=CC=C1=D7=CE=C1=D1 =C6=D5=CE=CB=C3=C9=D1 nth. =2D-=20 I accept RFC3156 and RFC2440-compatible encrypted mail. PGP key fingerprint: 123A 7CCE 6E26 6233 0D87 E01A A0F8 3524 FCD8 1841 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+sVxzoPg1JPzYGEERAp1hAJ9DhFs1RLJn+q5tSL4MTp4FQVgkCQCgz+Vk ew34rkC2ddDnb04aEnlhQCk= =+9Hf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From turnbull@tux.org Mon May 5 19:37:39 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h45Nbd402044 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:37:39 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h45Nbcl02037 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:37:38 -0400 Received: from server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.34.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h45NbbM02018 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:37:37 -0400 Received: from orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.35.20]) by server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h45Nba5e007939 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 01:37:36 +0200 (METDST) Received: from samoa.mdc-berlin.de (samoa.bioinf.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.80.68]) by orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h45NbYD21668 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 01:37:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mikhail Pachkov MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Message-ID: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 01:37:34 +0200 To: xemacs-users-ru X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 12) "Portable Code" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h45NbbM02018 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.1 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_MISSING,TO_LOCALPART_EQ_REAL,CHARSET_FARAWAY version=2.31 ðÒÉ×ÅÔ All, ðÏÓÔÁ×ÉÌ ÓÅÂÅ ÒÕÓÓËÉÊ ÓÌÏ×ÁÒÉË Ë ispell É ÏÂÎÁÒÕÖÉÌ, ÞÔÏ ÍÅÎÀÛËÁ ×ÙÐÁÄÁÀÝÁÑ ÐÒÉ ÎÁÖÁÔÉÉ ÎÁ ÎÅ×ÅÒÎÏÅ ÓÌÏ×Ï ÐÏËÁÚÙ×ÁÅÔ ËÒÏËÁÚÑÂÒÙ ×ÍÅÓÔÏ ËÉÒÉÌÌÉÃÙ. ëÁË ÐÒÏÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ koi ÛÒÉÆÔ ÄÌÑ ÍÅÎÀÛÅË × Xemacs(21.4.12)? õÄÁÞÉ, All. íÉÈÁÉÌ From turnbull@tux.org Mon May 5 20:00:02 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46002h07133 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 5 May 2003 20:00:02 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h45NxqK07039 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:59:52 -0400 Received: from mail.jinr.ru (mail.jinr.ru [159.93.17.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h45NxpM07034 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:59:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.jinr.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9510D10497AE for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 03:59:49 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mail.jinr.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.jinr.ru [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with ESMTP id 31927-04 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 03:59:49 +0400 (MSD) Received: from deb02.jinr.ru (deb01.jinr.ru [159.93.75.133]) by mail.jinr.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6985310497BD for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 03:59:48 +0400 (MSD) Sender: aneganov@deb02.jinr.ru To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: (no subject) References: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> From: Artiom Neganov Date: 06 May 2003 03:56:14 +0400 In-Reply-To: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <873cjtlzhd.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru> Lines: 5 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.31 Mikhail Pachkov writes: > ðÏÓÔÁ×ÉÌ ÓÅÂÅ ÒÕÓÓËÉÊ ÓÌÏ×ÁÒÉË Ë ispell ðÒÏÛÕ ÐÒÏÝÅÎÉÑ ÚÁ ÎÅÓËÒÏÍÎÙÊ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ - Á ÍÏÖÎÏ ÅÝÅ ÒÁÚ É ÐÏÄÒÏÂÎÅÅ: ÞÔÏ ÚÁ ÓÌÏ×ÁÒÉË? :) From turnbull@tux.org Mon May 5 21:49:53 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h461nrG02314 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 5 May 2003 21:49:53 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h461ngH02268 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 5 May 2003 21:49:42 -0400 Received: from santinel.ua (224-177.dialup.alkar.net [212.86.224.177]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h461nbM02258 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 21:49:39 -0400 Received: from anray by santinel.ua with local (Exim 4.12 #1 (Debian)) id 191zIF-0002ET-00 for ; Sun, 06 Apr 2003 04:49:59 +0300 To: Russian XEmacs Users Subject: =?koi8-r?b?08LP0svB?= xemacs Organization: ..//Unix or dead... User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) From: Andrey Slusar Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 04:49:59 +0300 Message-ID: <87u1dcv1h4.fsf@santinel.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.0 required=5.0 tests=CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADERS,DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX version=2.31 èÏÞÕ ÓÏÂÒÁÔØ xemacs beta. ëÁËÉÅ ÐÁËÅÔÙ ÍÉÎÉÍÁÌØÎÏ ÎÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍÙ ÄÌÑ ÓÂÏÒËÉ? -- Don't worry. ICQ #149041245 Andrey Slusar. From turnbull@tux.org Tue May 6 06:13:05 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46AD5P29616 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 06:13:05 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46ACt929586 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 06:12:55 -0400 Received: from server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.34.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h46ACsM29579 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 06:12:54 -0400 Received: from orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.35.20]) by server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h46ACr5e009576 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:12:53 +0200 (METDST) Received: from samoa.mdc-berlin.de (samoa.bioinf.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.80.68]) by orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h46ACqD17207 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:12:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mikhail Pachkov MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Message-ID: <16055.35492.197572.498637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 12:12:52 +0200 To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Cc: Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <873cjtlzhd.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru> References: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <873cjtlzhd.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 12) "Portable Code" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h46ACsM29579 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,CHARSET_FARAWAY version=2.31 Artiom> ðÒÏÛÕ ÐÒÏÝÅÎÉÑ ÚÁ ÎÅÓËÒÏÍÎÙÊ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ - Á ÍÏÖÎÏ ÅÝÅ ÒÁÚ É Artiom> ÐÏÄÒÏÂÎÅÅ: ÞÔÏ ÚÁ ÓÌÏ×ÁÒÉË? :) èÍÍ... á ÞÔÏ ÔÕÔ ÐÏÄÒÏÂÎÅÅ? ïÒÆÏÇÒÁÆÉÞÅÓËÉÊ ÓÌÏ×ÁÒØ ÒÕÓÓËÏÇÏ ÑÚÙËÁ ÄÌÑ ispell. âÒÁÌ ÚÄÅÓØ: http://fmg-www.cs.ucla.edu/geoff/ispell-dictionaries.html ÷ flyspell-mode ÎÅÐÒÁ×ÉÌØÎÙÅ ÓÌÏ×Á ÐÏÄÓ×ÅÞÉ×ÁÀÔÓÑ É ÐÏ ÓÒÅÄÎÅÊ ËÎÏÐËÅ ×Ù×ÁÌÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ ÍÅÎÀÛËÁ, ÓÏÄÅÒÖÁÝÁÑ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÙÅ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔÙ ÓÌÏ× É ËÏÍÁÎÄÙ ÓÐÅÌÌÞÅËÅÒÁ. üÔÉ ÓÁÍÙÅ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔÙ ÓÌÏ× ÉÄÕÔ ËÒÏËÁÚÑÂÒÁÍÉ. ñ ÔÁË ÒÁÚÕÍÅÀ, ÞÔÏ ÛÒÉÆÔ ÎÁ ËÎÏÐËÁÈ É ÍÅÎÀ ÐÒÏÐÉÓÁÎ iso-8859-1. èÏÞÅÔÓÑ ÅÇÏ ÐÏÍÅÎÑÔØ ÎÁ ëïé, Á ËÁË ÎÅ ÚÎÁÀ. ðÏËÁ ×ÓÅ ÐÏÐÙÔËÉ ÐÒÏ×ÁÌÉÌÉÓØ. õÄÁÞÉ! íÉÈÁÉÌ PS. îÁÄÅÀÓØ ÜÔÏ ÉÓÞÅÒÐÙ×ÁÀÝÉÊ ÏÔ×ÅÔ É ÄÌÑ äÅÎÉÓÁ. -- çÏÌÏÄ ÎÅ ÔÅÔËÁ, × ÌÅÓ ÎÅ ÕÂÅÖÉÔ... (2:5005/28.29) From turnbull@tux.org Tue May 6 06:32:22 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46AWMg01974 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 06:32:22 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46AWL901967 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 06:32:21 -0400 Received: from bcs1.bcs.zp.ua (bcs1.bcs.zp.ua [212.8.35.34]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h46AWHM01943 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 06:32:18 -0400 Received: from bcs1.bcs.zp.ua (IDENT:229@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bcs1.bcs.zp.ua (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h46AWDxP010211 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:32:13 +0300 Received: (from awn@localhost) by bcs1.bcs.zp.ua (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h46AWDgH010210 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:32:13 +0300 Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:32:13 +0300 From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <20030506103213.GA10185@bcs.zp.ua> Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org References: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <873cjtlzhd.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru> <16055.35492.197572.498637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <16055.35492.197572.498637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.31 Mikhail Pachkov wrote: : ÷ flyspell-mode ÎÅÐÒÁ×ÉÌØÎÙÅ ÓÌÏ×Á ÐÏÄÓ×ÅÞÉ×ÁÀÔÓÑ É ÐÏ ÓÒÅÄÎÅÊ ËÎÏÐËÅ : ×Ù×ÁÌÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ ÍÅÎÀÛËÁ, ÓÏÄÅÒÖÁÝÁÑ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÙÅ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔÙ ÓÌÏ× É ËÏÍÁÎÄÙ : ÓÐÅÌÌÞÅËÅÒÁ. üÔÉ ÓÁÍÙÅ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔÙ ÓÌÏ× ÉÄÕÔ ËÒÏËÁÚÑÂÒÁÍÉ. ñ ÔÁË ÒÁÚÕÍÅÀ, : ÞÔÏ ÛÒÉÆÔ ÎÁ ËÎÏÐËÁÈ É ÍÅÎÀ ÐÒÏÐÉÓÁÎ iso-8859-1. èÏÞÅÔÓÑ ÅÇÏ ÐÏÍÅÎÑÔØ : ÎÁ ëïé, Á ËÁË ÎÅ ÚÎÁÀ. ðÏËÁ ×ÓÅ ÐÏÐÙÔËÉ ÐÒÏ×ÁÌÉÌÉÓØ. ~/.Xresources: Emacs*menubar*font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-*-*-p-*-koi8-r Emacs*popup*font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r -- Andrew W. Nosenko (awn@bcs.zp.ua) From turnbull@tux.org Tue May 6 06:50:47 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46Aol805865 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 06:50:47 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46Aobd05830 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 06:50:37 -0400 Received: from server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.34.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h46AoaM05825 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 06:50:36 -0400 Received: from orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.35.20]) by server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h46AoZ5e009850 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:50:35 +0200 (METDST) Received: from samoa.mdc-berlin.de (samoa.bioinf.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.80.68]) by orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h46AoYD11798 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 12:50:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mikhail Pachkov MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Message-ID: <16055.37754.514224.25550@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 12:50:34 +0200 To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Cc: Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20030506103213.GA10185@bcs.zp.ua> References: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <873cjtlzhd.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru> <16055.35492.197572.498637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030506103213.GA10185@bcs.zp.ua> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 12) "Portable Code" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h46AoaM05825 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,DOUBLE_CAPSWORD version=2.31 AWN> ~/.Xresources: AWN> Emacs*menubar*font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-*-*-p-*-koi8-r AWN> Emacs*popup*font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r ðÏÐÒÏÂÏ×ÁÌ, ÎÅ ÐÏÍÏÇÁÅÔ. ûÒÉÆÔ ÏÓÔÁÌÓÑ ÔÏÔ ÖÅ. ëÓÔÁÔÉ, Õ ÍÅÎÑ Xemacs, Á ÎÅ emacs, ÅÓÌÉ ÜÔÏ ÉÍÅÅÔ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÅ. õÄÁÞÉ! íÉÈÁÉÌ -- á ÔÙ ÌÀÂÉÛØ ÂÉÔØ × ÇÏÎÇ ÎÁ ÂÏÌÏÔÁÈ, All?.. (FidoNet 2:5045/1.5) From turnbull@tux.org Tue May 6 07:01:07 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46B17t08481 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:01:07 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46B17w08474 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:01:07 -0400 Received: from ecstatic.isd.dp.ua (ecstatic.isd.dp.ua [193.108.163.190]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h46B16M08470 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:01:06 -0400 Received: from isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua.isd.dp.ua ([193.108.163.199] helo=isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua) by ecstatic.isd.dp.ua with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19D0CM-0007BY-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 14:01:26 +0300 Received: from isolkhowik ([127.0.0.1] helo=isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua.isd.dp.ua) by isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19D0Bx-000123-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 14:01:01 +0300 Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:01:01 +0300 Message-ID: <871xzc1gr6.wl%solo@isd.dp.ua> From: Serge Olkhowik To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20030506103213.GA10185@bcs.zp.ua> References: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <873cjtlzhd.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru> <16055.35492.197572.498637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030506103213.GA10185@bcs.zp.ua> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.4 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Kashiharajing=FE-mae?=) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.3 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organisation: Information Systems Development MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.31 On Tue, 6 May 2003, awn@bcs.zp.ua wrote: >: ÞÔÏ ÛÒÉÆÔ ÎÁ ËÎÏÐËÁÈ É ÍÅÎÀ ÐÒÏÐÉÓÁÎ iso-8859-1. èÏÞÅÔÓÑ ÅÇÏ ÐÏÍÅÎÑÔØ >: ÎÁ ëïé, Á ËÁË ÎÅ ÚÎÁÀ. ðÏËÁ ×ÓÅ ÐÏÐÙÔËÉ ÐÒÏ×ÁÌÉÌÉÓØ. > > ~/.Xresources: > Emacs*menubar*font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-*-*-p-*-koi8-r > Emacs*popup*font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r óÔÒÁÎÎÏ, Õ ÍÅÎÑ GNU Emacs ÜÔÏ ÄÅÌÏ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÏ ÐÏÄÈ×ÁÔÉÌ, Á ×ÏÔ XEmacs (Debian unstable, 21.4.12) - ÎÅÔ :( -- Serge Olkhowik ISD Configuration Management Team From turnbull@tux.org Tue May 6 07:06:11 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46B6BI09445 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:06:11 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46B6BA09438 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:06:11 -0400 Received: from ecstatic.isd.dp.ua (ecstatic.isd.dp.ua [193.108.163.190]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h46B68M09431 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:06:08 -0400 Received: from isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua.isd.dp.ua ([193.108.163.199] helo=isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua) by ecstatic.isd.dp.ua with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19D0HF-0007CL-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 14:06:29 +0300 Received: from isolkhowik ([127.0.0.1] helo=isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua.isd.dp.ua) by isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19D0Gq-00014d-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 14:06:04 +0300 Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:06:04 +0300 Message-ID: <87znm0z65f.wl%solo@isd.dp.ua> From: Serge Olkhowik To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: eudc User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.4 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Kashiharajing=FE-mae?=) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.3 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organisation: Information Systems Development MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.31 á ËÔÏ-ÔÏ ÉÍÅÅÔ ÏÐÙÔ ÎÁÓÔÒÏÊËÉ ldap ÐÏÄ [x]emacs? ñ ÔÕÔ ÐÏÐÙÔÁÌÓÑ ÎÁÊÔÉ × ÉÎÅÔÅ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ, Ó ÔÒÕÄÏÍ ÐÏÌÕÞÉÌ ×ÏÔ ÜÔÕ ÓÔÒÏËÕ: ldapsearch -h server -p 3268 -LLL -D "solo@isd.dp.ua" -x -w xxxx "(mail=*yura*)" îÁ ÔÁËÏÊ ÚÁÐÒÏÓ ÈÏÔØ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ ÐÏÌÕÞÁÀ - ÓÅÒ×ÅÒ ÐÏÄ Win2k/AD. ðÙÔÁÀÓØ ÎÁÓÔÒÏÉÔØ ÜÔÏ ÖÅ ÞÅÒÅÚ eudc - Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÎÉÞÅÇÏ ÎÅ ÐÏÌÕÞÁÅÔÓÑ. óÏÈÒÁÎÑÀ × .eudc-options: ,---- | ;; This file was automatically generated by eudc.el. | | (provide 'eudc-options-file) | (eudc-set-server "server:3268" 'ldap t) | (setq eudc-server-hotlist '(("server:3268" . ldap))) `---- á ×ÏÔ ËÁË ÐÒÏÐÉÓÁÔØ ÔÕÄÁ ÖÅ bind ÎÁ solo@isd.dp.ua É ÐÁÒÏÌØ? -- Serge Olkhowik ISD Configuration Management Team From turnbull@tux.org Tue May 6 07:13:31 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46BDV410981 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:13:31 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46BDUF10973 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:13:30 -0400 Received: from bcs1.bcs.zp.ua (bcs1.bcs.zp.ua [212.8.35.34]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h46BDOM10957 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:13:26 -0400 Received: from bcs1.bcs.zp.ua (IDENT:229@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bcs1.bcs.zp.ua (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h46BDCxP010549 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:13:13 +0300 Received: (from awn@localhost) by bcs1.bcs.zp.ua (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h46BDCdt010548 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:13:12 +0300 Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 14:13:12 +0300 From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <20030506111312.GA10354@bcs.zp.ua> Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org References: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <873cjtlzhd.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru> <16055.35492.197572.498637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030506103213.GA10185@bcs.zp.ua> <16055.37754.514224.25550@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <16055.37754.514224.25550@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,DOUBLE_CAPSWORD version=2.31 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mikhail Pachkov wrote: : : AWN> ~/.Xresources: : AWN> Emacs*menubar*font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-*-*-p-*-koi8-r : AWN> Emacs*popup*font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-koi8-r : : ðÏÐÒÏÂÏ×ÁÌ, ÎÅ ÐÏÍÏÇÁÅÔ. ûÒÉÆÔ ÏÓÔÁÌÓÑ ÔÏÔ ÖÅ. á ÏÂÎÏ×ÉÔØ ÂÁÚÕ xrdb ÎÅ ÚÁÂÙÌ? õ ÍÅÎÑ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ -- ÓÍ. ÁÔÔÁÞÍÅÎÔ. : ëÓÔÁÔÉ, Õ ÍÅÎÑ Xemacs, Á ÎÅ emacs, ÅÓÌÉ ÜÔÏ ÉÍÅÅÔ ÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÅ. îÅ ÉÍÅÅÔ -- Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÔÏÖÅ XEmacs-2.4.10 non-mule. -- Andrew W. 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Serov" Reply-To: ky@df.ru To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: xemacs -nw Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 18:35:52 +0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305061835.52694.ky@df.ru> X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.31 Çàäóìàë ïåðåõîäèòü ñ vi íà xemacs. Ïðè÷åì ðàáîòàþ ÿ óäàëåííî â øåëëå. Vi îòëè÷íîå ïîíèìàåò ìûøü è ìûøèíîå êîëåñî. Êàê áû íàëàäèòü ïîäîáíîå â xemacs'å? Èêñû ôîðâàðäèòü ïðèíöèïèàëüíîå íå õî÷ó - äîïîëíèòåëüíûå òîðìîçà è òðàôôèê. Åñëè ëè âîîáùå ãäå-íèáóäü ïîäðîáíûö ìàíóàë ïî íàñòðîéêå xemacs'à ñ îïöèåé -nw? From turnbull@tux.org Tue May 6 13:45:59 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46Hjxx18267 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:45:59 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46HjwD18258 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:45:58 -0400 Received: from tut.by (speedy.tutby.com [195.209.41.194]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h46HjvM18254 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:45:58 -0400 Received: from [194.158.216.151] (account oid HELO comp1.loc) by tut.by (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 12258002 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org; Tue, 06 May 2003 20:47:47 +0300 Received: from oleg by comp1.loc with local (masqmail 0.2.18) id 19D6Ud-2Jt-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 20:44:43 +0300 From: Oleg Demidovich To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: flyspell problem, was "Re: (no subject)" Organization: In Gnus we trust X-Comment-To: Mikhail Pachkov References: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <873cjtlzhd.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru> <16055.35492.197572.498637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030506103213.GA10185@bcs.zp.ua> <16055.37754.514224.25550@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030506111312.GA10354@bcs.zp.ua> <16055.49322.604322.439208@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 20:44:43 +0300 Message-ID: <87smrs3r78.fsf@comp1.loc> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=UNIFIED_PATCH version=2.31 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>>>> On Tue, 6 May 2003 16:03:22 +0200 "MP" == Mikhail Pachkov wrote: MP> Ok, ÐÒÏ xrbd ÎÉÞÅÇÏ ÎÅ ÚÎÁÌ. ïÂÎÏ×ÉÌ É ×ÓÅ ÚÁÒÁÂÏÔÁÌÏ. óÐÁÓÉÂÏ! ôÏÌØËÏ MP> ÔÅÐÅÒØ fly-spell ÒÕÇÁÅÔÓÑ ÎÁ ÓÌÏ×Á Ó ÚÁÇÌÁ×ÎÙÍÉ ÂÕË×ÁÍÉ, ÐÏÈÏÖÅ, ÞÔÏ MP> ÏÎ ÎÅ ×ÉÄÉÔ ÚÁÇÌÁ×ÎÙÈ ÂÕË× É ÓÞÉÔÁÅÔ ÉÈ ÚÁ ÐÕÓÔÏÅ ÍÅÓÔÏ MP> (attachment). üÔÏ ÌÅÞÉÔØÓÑ? Ispell ÒÁÓÐÏÚÎÁÅÔ ÉÈ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÏ. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=flyspell.patch --- flyspell.el.orig Tue May 6 20:03:23 2003 +++ flyspell.el Tue May 6 20:36:27 2003 @@ -1320,7 +1320,7 @@ extra-otherchars) "*" "?"))) did-it-once prevpt - start end word) + start end word case-fold-search) ;; find the word (if (not (looking-at flyspell-casechars)) (if following --=-=-= -- WBR, Oleg. --=-=-=-- From turnbull@tux.org Tue May 6 14:24:12 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46IOCZ28040 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:24:12 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h46IO2328007 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:24:02 -0400 Received: from mail.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (mail.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.34.25]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h46IO2M28003 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:24:02 -0400 Received: from orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.35.20]) by mail.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h46INvfr021090; Tue, 6 May 2003 20:23:57 +0200 (METDST) Received: from samoa.mdc-berlin.de (samoa.bioinf.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.80.68]) by orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h46INuD18630; Tue, 6 May 2003 20:23:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mikhail Pachkov MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 Message-ID: <16055.64955.840310.590280@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 20:23:55 +0200 To: Oleg Demidovich Cc: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: flyspell problem, was "Re: (no subject)" In-Reply-To: <87smrs3r78.fsf@comp1.loc> References: <16054.62910.906988.625130@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <873cjtlzhd.fsf@deb02.jinr.ru> <16055.35492.197572.498637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030506103213.GA10185@bcs.zp.ua> <16055.37754.514224.25550@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030506111312.GA10354@bcs.zp.ua> <16055.49322.604322.439208@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87smrs3r78.fsf@comp1.loc> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 12) "Portable Code" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h46IO2M28003 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,UNIFIED_PATCH version=2.31 úÁÒÁÂÏÔÁÌÏ, ÔÏÌØËÏ ÐÁÔÞÉË ÄÌÑ ÍÅÎÑ ÐÏ ÄÒÕÇÏÍÕ ×ÙÇÌÑÄÉÔ: --- flyspell.el.org Fri Jan 3 22:15:12 2003 +++ flyspell.el Tue May 6 20:03:16 2003 @@ -1275,7 +1275,7 @@ "*" "?")) 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From turnbull@tux.org Wed May 14 09:57:26 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EDvQQ09606 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:57:26 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EDvFN09570 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:57:15 -0400 Received: from server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.34.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4EDvFM09561 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:57:15 -0400 Received: from orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.35.20]) by server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4EDvE5e001898 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 15:57:14 +0200 (METDST) Received: from samoa.mdc-berlin.de (samoa.bioinf.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.80.68]) by orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h4EDvDN20177 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 15:57:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mikhail Pachkov MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Message-ID: <16066.19257.497901.54427@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:57:13 +0200 To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Cc: Subject: different fonts and columns format in summary window (VM) In-Reply-To: <16066.17962.970589.232918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <16066.17962.970589.232918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 12) "Portable Code" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h4EDvFM09561 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,CHARSET_FARAWAY version=2.31 >>>>> "MP" == Mikhail Pachkov writes: äÏÐÏÌÎÅÎÉÅ, ÐÒÅÄÙÄÕÝÉÅ ÐÉÓØÍÏ ÓÍÏÔÒÅÔØ Ó times! :-) éÎÁÞÅ ÐÒÉ×ÅÄÅÎÎÙÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÒÙ ÒÁÓÐÏÌÚÁÀÔÓÑ ËÁË ÐÏÐÁÌÏ. ÷ÉÄÉÍÏ ÛÒÉÆÔÙ ÐÏ ÒÁÚÎÏÍÕ ÏÔÒÁÖÁÀÔ ÔÁÂÕÌÑÃÉÀ. ÷ÏÔ ÔÏÌØËÏ ËÁË ÅÔÏ ×ÙÌÅÞÉÔØ? õÄÁÞÉ! íÉÈÁÉÌ -- ëÔÏ ÀÚÁÌ ÍÏÊ ÌÏÇÉÎ É ×ÅÓØ ÅÇÏ ×ÙÀÚÁÌ?! From turnbull@tux.org Wed May 14 10:11:48 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EEBmS13503 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 10:11:48 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EEBm213495 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 10:11:48 -0400 Received: from master.tik.perm.ru (ukd-leased2.perm.ru [195.222.153.155]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4EEBlM13491 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 10:11:47 -0400 Received: from AirGate (dima@[192.168.1.2]) by master.tik.perm.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA13108; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:30:25 +0600 X-Authentication-Warning: master.tik.perm.ru: Host dima@[192.168.1.2] claimed to be AirGate Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: "Dimitry N. Naldaev" To: Mikhail Pachkov , xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: different fonts and columns format in summary window (VM) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 20:16:57 +0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <16066.17962.970589.232918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> In-Reply-To: <16066.17962.970589.232918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200305142016.57770.dima@tik.perm.ru> X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.31 ÷ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ ÏÔ 14 íÁÊ 2003 19:35 Mikhail Pachkov ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: > õ×ÁÖÁÅÍÙÊ All. > > ôÁËÏÊ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ. ðÏÞÅÍÕ, ËÏÇÄÁ Ñ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÕÀ ÛÒÉÆÔ times, ÔÏ × VM, × > summary-frame ËÏÌÏÎËÉ ÎÁÅÚÖÁÀÔ ÄÒÕÇ ÎÁ ÄÒÕÇÁ: îÁ ÓËÏÌØËÏ Ñ ÐÏÎÉÍÁÀ ÜÔÏ ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ ÐÏÔÏÍÕ, ÞÔÏ times -- ÜÔÏ ÐÒÏÐÏÒÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÙÊ ÛÒÉÆÔ > > 133 Dennis Ruey Wen L May 14 16/531 "Re: [MPlayer-dev-eng] > Re: About dvd navigation" ->134 R Stefan Schuster May 14 30/1389 > "Forms" > 135 Dimitar Kenanov May 14 65/2161 "the script" > > á ËÏÇÄÁ courier ÔÏ ×ÓÅ ×ÙÇÌÑÄÉÔ ÓÉÍÐÁÔÉÞÎÏ: á courier --- ÍÏÎÏÛÉÒÉÎÎÙÊ > > 133 Dennis Ruey Wen L May 14 16/531 "Re: > [MPlayer-dev-eng] Re: About dvd navigation" ->134 R Stefan Schuster > May 14 30/1389 "Forms" > 135 Dimitar Kenanov May 14 65/2161 "the script" > > íÏÖÎÏ ÄÌÑ times ÜÔÕ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÕ ×ÙÌÅÞÉÔØ? á ÔÏ ÏÎ ÍÎÅ ÂÏÌØÛÅ ÎÒÁ×ÉÔÓÑ, > ÞÅÍ courier. 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ÎÏ ÔÏÇÄÁ ÜÔÏ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÕÖÅ ÎÅ times ;-) From turnbull@tux.org Wed May 14 12:36:38 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EGaca10044 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:36:38 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EGaVu09975 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:36:31 -0400 Received: from jimson.mostcom.ru (jimson.mostcom.ru [194.87.117.87]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4EGaUM09966 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:36:30 -0400 Received: from jimson.mostcom.ru (jimson@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jimson.mostcom.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4EGaUmG007285 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:36:30 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from jimson@mostcom.ru) Received: (from jimson@localhost) by jimson.mostcom.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4EGaUrR007284; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:36:30 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from jimson@mostcom.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: jimson.mostcom.ru: jimson set sender to jimson@mostcom.ru using -f Sender: jimson@jimson.mostcom.ru To: Russian XEmacs Users Subject: =?iso-8859-5?b?2t7U2ODe0trQ?= cp1251 From: Vladimir Kravchenko Date: 14 May 2003 20:36:29 +0400 Message-ID: <878yt9zdrm.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (cauliflower) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h4EGaUM09966 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.6 required=5.0 tests=X_AUTH_WARNING,SUBJ_FULL_OF_8BITS version=2.31 Âãâ ãÖÕ ÝÕÞÔÝÞÚàÐâÝÞ ßÞÔÝØÜÐÛáï ÒÞßàÞá ßàÞ windows-1251, ÝÞ ï ÒáÕ ÖÕ àØáÚÝã áßàÞáØâì ÕéÕ àÐ×. ÂÐÚØ ÚãÔÐ ÔÕÛÐáì ßÞÔÔÕàÖÚÐ íâÞÙ ÚÞÔØàÞÒÚØ Ò 21.5 xemacs ? ²Þâ çâÞ ÝÐßØáÐÝÞ Ò cyrillic.el ;;; Commentary: ;; The character set ISO8859-5 is supported. KOI-8 and ALTERNATIVNYJ are ;; converted to ISO8859-5 internally. ;; Windows-1251 support deleted because XEmacs has automatic support. ßÞØáÚ ßÞ ÒáÕÜ .el ÝÕ ÔÐÕâ ÑÞÛÕÕ ÝØ ÕÔØÝÞÓÞ ÒåÞÖÔÕÝØï ÝÐ "1251" ÚàÞÜÕ po-compat.el ºÞÔØàÞÒÞÚ cp1251, windows-1251 ÝÕâã. ÂÐÚ áÞÑáâÒÕÝÝÞ ÚÐÚ ÒÚÛîçØâì ãÚÐ×ÐÝÝëÙ "automatic support" ? -- Vladimir Kravchenko / PK Mostcom JSC / system engineer Tel: +7 095 2312255 / UIN: 132038843 / Email: jimson@mostcom.ru From turnbull@tux.org Wed May 14 12:58:01 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EGw1G20102 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:58:01 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EGw0120091 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:58:00 -0400 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru ([195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id h4EGvxM20082 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:57:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 46475 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 16:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fly.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.212) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 14 May 2003 16:39:46 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) id h4EGuvrW017489 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org.KAV; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:56:57 +0400 (MSK) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (ns.ispras.ru [195.208.32.200]) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4EGuuMA017481 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:56:56 +0400 (MSK) Received: from fog (fog.ispras.ru [195.208.32.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h4EGuvum028981 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:56:57 +0400 (MSK) Received: tid UAA18798; Thu, 14 May 1998 20:57:55 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: fog: Host [195.208.53.175] claimed to be nord.kazbek.ispras.ru Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4EGxaM09613 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:59:36 +0400 To: Russian XEmacs Users Subject: Re: =?koi8-r?b?y8/EydLP18vB?= cp1251 References: <878yt9zdrm.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: 14 May 2003 20:57:33 +0400 In-Reply-To: <878yt9zdrm.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (beets) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING,CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADERS version=2.31 á ËÁË ÔÙ ÕÚÎÁÌ, ÞÔÏ ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ËÉ windows-1251 ÎÅÔ? ñ ÐÏÐÒÏÂÏ×ÁÌ xemacs-21.5.11: (coding-system-p (find-coding-system 'windows-1251)) ×ÏÚ×ÒÁÝÁÅÔ t ëÏÌÑ. intro: "VK" == Vladimir Kravchenko writes: VK> ôÕÔ ÕÖÅ ÎÅÏÄÎÏËÒÁÔÎÏ ÐÏÄÎÉÍÁÌÓÑ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ ÐÒÏ windows-1251, ÎÏ Ñ ×ÓÅ ÖÅ VK> ÒÉÓËÎÕ ÓÐÒÏÓÉÔØ ÅÝÅ ÒÁÚ. ôÁËÉ ËÕÄÁ ÄÅÌÁÓØ ÐÏÄÄÅÒÖËÁ ÜÔÏÊ ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ËÉ × VK> 21.5 xemacs ? ÷ÏÔ ÞÔÏ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ × cyrillic.el VK> ;;; Commentary: VK> ;; The character set ISO8859-5 is supported. KOI-8 and ALTERNATIVNYJ are VK> ;; converted to ISO8859-5 internally. VK> ;; Windows-1251 support deleted because XEmacs has automatic support. VK> ÐÏÉÓË ÐÏ ×ÓÅÍ .el ÎÅ ÄÁÅÔ ÂÏÌÅÅ ÎÉ ÅÄÉÎÏÇÏ ×ÈÏÖÄÅÎÉÑ ÎÁ "1251" ËÒÏÍÅ VK> po-compat.el VK> ëÏÄÉÒÏ×ÏË cp1251, windows-1251 ÎÅÔÕ. VK> ôÁË ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ ËÁË ×ËÌÀÞÉÔØ ÕËÁÚÁÎÎÙÊ "automatic support" ? VK> -- Vladimir Kravchenko / PK Mostcom JSC / system engineer Tel: +7 095 VK> 2312255 / UIN: 132038843 / Email: jimson@mostcom.ru From turnbull@tux.org Wed May 14 13:22:02 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EHM2w01331 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 13:22:02 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4EHLq901241 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 13:21:52 -0400 Received: from jimson.mostcom.ru (jimson.mostcom.ru [194.87.117.87]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4EHLpM01233 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 13:21:51 -0400 Received: from jimson.mostcom.ru (jimson@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jimson.mostcom.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4EHLqmG009405; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:21:52 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from jimson@mostcom.ru) Received: (from jimson@localhost) by jimson.mostcom.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4EHLpd8009404; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:21:51 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from jimson@mostcom.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: jimson.mostcom.ru: jimson set sender to jimson@mostcom.ru using -f To: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Cc: Russian XEmacs Users Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-5?b?2t7U2ODe0trQ?= cp1251 References: <878yt9zdrm.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> From: Vladimir Kravchenko Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:21:51 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Nickolay Pakoulin's message of "14 May 2003 20:57:33 +0400") Message-ID: <87wugtzbo0.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (cauliflower, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h4EHLpM01233 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.31 >>>>> "NP" == Nickolay Pakoulin writes: NP> ° ÚÐÚ âë ã×ÝÐÛ, çâÞ ÚÞÔØàÞÒÚØ windows-1251 ÝÕâ? Ï ßÞßàÞÑÞÒÐÛ NP> xemacs-21.5.11: NP> (coding-system-p (find-coding-system 'windows-1251)) NP> ÒÞ×ÒàÐéÐÕâ t Ð ÜÝÕ ÒÞ×ÒàÐéÐÕâ nil ÒÞâ ï Ø áßàÐèØÒÐî - ÚÐÚ ÜÝÕ ÔÞÑØâáï çâÞ Ñë Ò 21.5 xemacs ã ÜÕÝï íâÐ coding-system ßÞïÒØÛÐáì :) P.S. Ò summary ÑãäÕàÕ gnus 5.8.8 ßÞÚÐ×ëÒÐÕâ ×ÐÓÞÛÞÒÚØ ßØáÕÜ ßàØèÕÔèØÕ ÚÐÚ koi8-r plain text ÚÞ×ïÑÛØÚÐÜØ, íâÞ ÒëÛÕçØâì ÒÞ×ÜÞÖÝÞ ? P.S.S. ßÞáâÐÒØÛ gnus Ø× cvs âÐÚ ÞÝ âÕßÕàì èÛÕâ ÒáÕ ßØáìÜÐ Ò iso-8859-5 Ø quoted-printable, ÝÕ ßÞÝïâÝÞ çâÞ ßÞÜÕÝïÛÞáì, ÒÞ ÒáïÚÞÜ áÛãçÐÕâ 5.8 Ø oort ã ÜÕÝï ÝÞàÜÐÛìÝÞ á ÜÞØÜ ÚÞÝäØÓÞÜ àÐÑÞâÐîâ. -- Vladimir Kravchenko / PK Mostcom JSC / system engineer Tel: +7 095 2312255 / UIN: 132038843 / Email: jimson@mostcom.ru From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 15 04:30:05 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4F8U5Q17125 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 04:30:05 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4F8U4l17105 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 04:30:04 -0400 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru ([195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id h4F8TxM16974 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 04:30:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 54370 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 08:11:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fly.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.212) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 15 May 2003 08:11:42 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) id h4F8SugX003193 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org.KAV; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:28:56 +0400 (MSK) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (ns.ispras.ru [195.208.32.200]) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4F8SuMA003185 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:28:56 +0400 (MSK) Received: from fog (fog.ispras.ru [195.208.32.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h4F8Suum002928 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:28:56 +0400 (MSK) Received: tid MAA07125; Fri, 15 May 1998 12:28:31 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: fog: Host [195.208.53.175] claimed to be nord.kazbek.ispras.ru Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4F8UFM25431 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:30:15 +0400 To: Russian XEmacs Users Subject: Re: =?koi8-r?b?y8/EydLP18vB?= cp1251 References: <878yt9zdrm.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> <87wugtzbo0.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: 15 May 2003 12:28:09 +0400 In-Reply-To: <87wugtzbo0.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (beets) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING,CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADERS version=2.31 á èåÍÁËÓ ÓÏÂÒÁÎ Ó ÍÕÌÅÊ? é ËÁËÁÑ ×ÅÒÓÉÑ èåÍÁËÓÁ, ÎÁ ËÁËÏÊ ÐÌÁÔÆÏÒÍÅ? ëÏÌÑ. intro: "VK" == Vladimir Kravchenko writes: >>>>>> "NP" == Nickolay Pakoulin writes: NP> á ËÁË ÔÙ ÕÚÎÁÌ, ÞÔÏ ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ËÉ windows-1251 ÎÅÔ? ñ ÐÏÐÒÏÂÏ×ÁÌ NP> xemacs-21.5.11: NP> (coding-system-p (find-coding-system 'windows-1251)) NP> ×ÏÚ×ÒÁÝÁÅÔ t VK> Á ÍÎÅ ×ÏÚ×ÒÁÝÁÅÔ nil ×ÏÔ Ñ É ÓÐÒÁÛÉ×ÁÀ - ËÁË ÍÎÅ ÄÏÂÉÔÓÑ ÞÔÏ ÂÙ × 21.5 VK> xemacs Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÜÔÁ coding-system ÐÏÑ×ÉÌÁÓØ :) VK> P.S. × summary ÂÕÆÅÒÅ gnus 5.8.8 ÐÏËÁÚÙ×ÁÅÔ ÚÁÇÏÌÏ×ËÉ ÐÉÓÅÍ ÐÒÉÛÅÄÛÉÅ ËÁË VK> koi8-r plain text ËÏÚÑÂÌÉËÁÍÉ, ÜÔÏ ×ÙÌÅÞÉÔØ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ ? 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ÐÏÓÔÁ×ÉÌ VK> gnus ÉÚ cvs ÔÁË ÏÎ ÔÅÐÅÒØ ÛÌÅÔ ×ÓÅ ÐÉÓØÍÁ × iso-8859-5 É VK> quoted-printable, ÎÅ ÐÏÎÑÔÎÏ ÞÔÏ ÐÏÍÅÎÑÌÏÓØ, ×Ï ×ÓÑËÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅÔ 5.8 É oort VK> Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÏ Ó ÍÏÉÍ ËÏÎÆÉÇÏÍ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÀÔ. -- Vladimir Kravchenko / PK VK> Mostcom JSC / system engineer Tel: +7 095 2312255 / UIN: 132038843 / VK> Email: jimson@mostcom.ru From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 15 04:44:34 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4F8iY923881 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 04:44:34 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4F8iOX23800 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 04:44:24 -0400 Received: from server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.34.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4F8iNM23792 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 04:44:23 -0400 Received: from orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.35.20]) by server1.bbb2.mdc-berlin.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4F8iM5e023261 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:44:22 +0200 (METDST) Received: from samoa.mdc-berlin.de (samoa.bioinf.mdc-berlin.de [141.80.80.68]) by orion.bbb3.mdc-berlin.de (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h4F8iLS03261 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 10:44:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mikhail Pachkov MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Message-ID: <16067.21349.894688.976242@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:44:21 +0200 To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Cc: Subject: Re: different fonts and columns format in summary window (VM) In-Reply-To: <200305142016.57770.dima@tik.perm.ru> References: <16066.17962.970589.232918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <200305142016.57770.dima@tik.perm.ru> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 12) "Portable Code" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h4F8iNM23792 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,CHARSET_FARAWAY version=2.31 DNN> îÁ ÓËÏÌØËÏ Ñ ÐÏÎÉÍÁÀ ÜÔÏ ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ ÐÏÔÏÍÕ, ÞÔÏ times -- ÜÔÏ ÐÒÏÐÏÒÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÙÊ DNN> ÛÒÉÆÔ DNN> á courier --- ÍÏÎÏÛÉÒÉÎÎÙÊ îÁËÏÎÅÃ-ÔÏ Ñ ÕÚÎÁÌ ÎÁÇÌÑÄÎÕÀ ÒÁÚÎÉÃÕ ÍÅÖÄÕ ÐÒÏÐÏÒÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÙÍÉ É ÍÏÎÏÛÉÒÎÙÍÉ ÛÒÉÆÔÁÍÉ. èÁÄÏ ÏÄÎÁËÏ ÐÏÊÔÉ ÐÒÏÓ×ÅÔÉÔØÓÑ. 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(2:450/42) From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 15 05:40:41 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4F9efe19423 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 05:40:41 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4F9eTW19333 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 05:40:29 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4F9eRM19325 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 05:40:28 -0400 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19GFCH-0007UB-00 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:38:45 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19GFCG-0007Tw-00 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:38:44 +0200 From: deskpot@despammed.com (Vasily Korytov) Subject: Re: different fonts and columns format in summary window (VM) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:41:43 +0400 Lines: 31 Message-ID: <878yt81r8o.fsf@unix.home> References: <16066.17962.970589.232918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <200305142016.57770.dima@tik.perm.ru> <16067.21349.894688.976242@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YpZy+2TpSKA8YWEkAEUJQbHLPr0= Sender: news X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_FOUND,BASE64_ENC_TEXT version=2.31 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 T24gVGh1LCAxNSBNYXkgMjAwMyAxMDo0NDoyMSArMDIwMCwgTWlraGFpbCBQYWNoa292IHdy b3RlOg0KDQo+ICBETk4+IO7BINPLz8zYy88g0SDQz87JzcHAINzUzyDQ0s/J08jPxMnUINDP 1M/N1Swg3tTPIHRpbWVzIC0tINzUzw0KPiAgRE5OPiDQ0s/Qz9LDyc/OwczYztnKINvSycbU IOEgY291cmllciAtLS0gzc/Oz9vJ0snOztnKDQo+DQo+IO7By8/OxcMt1M8g0SDV2s7BzCDO wcfM0cTO1cAg0sHazsnD1SDNxdbE1SDQ0s/Qz9LDyc/OwczYztnNySDJDQo+IM3Pzs/bydLO 2c3JINvSycbUwc3JLiDowcTPIM/EzsHLzyDQz8rUySDQ0s/T18XUydTY09EuDQoNCvDSz9PX xdTJ1NjT0SAtLSDc1M8g19nQydTYLCDe1M8gzMk/ID0pKQ0KDQo+ICBETk4+INTFIMjP3sXb 2CDQ0sXX0sHUydTYINDSz9DP0sPJz87BzNjO2cog29LJxtQg1yDNz87P28nSyc7O2co/Pz8g zs8g1M/HxMENCj4gIEROTj4g3NTPIMLVxMXUINXWxSDOxSB0aW1lcyA7LSkNCj4NCj4g4SDX z9Qgyc7UxdLF087ZyiDXz9DSz9MuIOvBy8nFINvSycbU2SDXIOjFzcHL0y/lzcHL0yDJ09DP zNja1cXUDQo+INXXwdbBxc3ZyiBBbGw/ICDrwcvJxSDHzMHaINLBxNXA1D8NCg0K7cXO0SDX 0M/MzsUg1dPU0sHJ18HF1CBjb3VyaWVyIMnaIGN5ci1yZnguDQoNCi0tIA0KICAgICAgIEkg YWNjZXB0IFJGQzMxNTYgYW5kIFJGQzI0NDAtY29tcGF0aWJsZSBlbmNyeXB0ZWQgbWFpbC4N ClBHUCBrZXkgZmluZ2VycHJpbnQ6IDEyM0EgN0NDRSA2RTI2IDYyMzMgMEQ4NyBFMDFBIEEw RjggMzUyNCBGQ0Q4IDE4NDENCg== --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+w2DaoPg1JPzYGEERAovgAJ4h37yumiLEfCsfqalOKP5uCHRrdwCgjbD8 GRFT3fW/qiD1VvGeYMV84i0= =mPza -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 15 06:07:12 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FA7Cq32671 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 06:07:12 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FA7Cl32662 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 06:07:12 -0400 Received: from isd471.isd.dp.ua (ISD471.isd.dp.ua [193.108.163.190]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4FA7AM32648 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 06:07:11 -0400 Received: from isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua ([193.108.163.199] helo=isolkhowik) by isd471 with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19GFe0-000130-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:07:24 +0300 Received: from isolkhowik ([127.0.0.1] helo=isolkhowik.isd.dp.ua) by isolkhowik with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19GFdM-000696-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:06:44 +0300 Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:06:44 +0300 Message-ID: <871xz0le17.wl%solo@isd.dp.ua> From: Serge Olkhowik To: Mikhail Pachkov Cc: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: different fonts and columns format in summary window (VM) In-Reply-To: <16067.21349.894688.976242@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <16066.17962.970589.232918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <200305142016.57770.dima@tik.perm.ru> <16067.21349.894688.976242@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.4 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Kashiharajing=FE-mae?=) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.3 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organisation: Information Systems Development MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.31 On Thu, 15 May 2003, pachkov@mdc-berlin.de wrote: > DNN> ÔÅ ÈÏÞÅÛØ ÐÒÅ×ÒÁÔÉÔØ ÐÒÏÐÏÒÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÙÊ ÛÒÉÆÔ × ÍÏÎÏÛÉÒÉÎÎÙÊ??? 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Courier ÍÎÅ ÏÔËÒÏ×ÅÎÎÏ ÎÅ ÎÒÁ×ÉÔÓÑ. åÓÌÉ ÐÏÄ ×ÎÄÏÊ - ÔÏ ÏÂÙÞÎÏ Lucida Console. äÌÑ linux ÐÏËÁ ÕÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÀÔ Terminus (× debian ÔÁË É ÎÁÚÙ×ÁÀÔÓÑ - xfonts-terminus). ôÅÍ ÂÏÌÅÅ - Ó ÎÉÍÉ É XEmacs ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÏ ÓÄÒÕÖÉÌÓÑ.. -- Serge Olkhowik ISD Configuration Management Team From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 15 08:18:13 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FCIDv01402 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:18:13 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FCI3H01317 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:18:03 -0400 Received: from mail.hostel.bsuir.unibel.by (mail.hostel.bsuir.unibel.by [195.50.1.124]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4FCHlM01165 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:17:58 -0400 Received: from [192.168.255.34] (helo=hostel.bsuir.unibel.by ident=root) by mail.hostel.bsuir.unibel.by with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GHfx-00096q-00 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:17:33 +0300 Received: from deathstation.hostel.bsuir.unibel.by ([172.31.4.231]) by hostel.bsuir.unibel.by (8.10.1/8.10.1/BSUIR-HOSTEL) with ESMTP id h4FCHVM20954 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:17:31 +0300 Received: (from mrdeath@localhost) by deathstation.hostel.bsuir.unibel.by (8.12.3/8.12.3) id h4FCHV9N032093; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:17:31 +0300 X-Comment-To: Mikhail Pachkov To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: different fonts and columns format in summary window (VM) References: <16066.17962.970589.232918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <200305142016.57770.dima@tik.perm.ru> <16067.21349.894688.976242@gargle.gargle.HOWL> From: md@hostel.bsuir.unibel.by (Alexander V. Butenko) Organization: Live free or die Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:17:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: <16067.21349.894688.976242@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Mikhail Pachkov's message of "Thu, 15 May 2003 10:44:21 +0200") Message-ID: <878yt8h09x.fsf@deathstation.hostel.bsuir.unibel.by> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by hostel.bsuir.unibel.by id h4FCHVM20954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h4FCHlM01165 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.31 >>>>> "MP" == Mikhail Pachkov writes: MP> á ×ÏÔ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÎÙÊ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ. ëÁËÉÅ ÛÒÉÆÔÙ × èÅÍÁËÓ/åÍÁËÓ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÕÅÔ MP> Õ×ÁÖÁÅÍÙÊ All? ëÁËÉÅ ÇÌÁÚ ÒÁÄÕÀÔ? íÅÎÑ ×ÐÏÌÎÅ ÕÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÔ rfx-fixed. âÏÌÅÅ ÞÅÍ. -- Bye np: My Dying Bride - Two Winters Only From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 15 08:24:49 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FCOnm04691 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:24:49 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FCOm304678 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:24:48 -0400 Received: from jimson.mostcom.ru (jimson.mostcom.ru [194.87.117.87]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4FCOlM04663 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:24:47 -0400 Received: from jimson.mostcom.ru (jimson@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jimson.mostcom.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4FCOvmG018481; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:24:57 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from jimson@mostcom.ru) Received: (from jimson@localhost) by jimson.mostcom.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4FCOu4p018480; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:24:56 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from jimson@mostcom.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: jimson.mostcom.ru: jimson set sender to jimson@mostcom.ru using -f To: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Cc: Russian XEmacs Users Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-5?b?2t7U2ODe0trQ?= cp1251 References: <878yt9zdrm.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> <87wugtzbo0.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> From: Vladimir Kravchenko Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:24:56 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Nickolay Pakoulin's message of "15 May 2003 12:28:09 +0400") Message-ID: <87isscbdnr.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (cauliflower, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h4FCOlM04663 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.31 >>>>> "NP" == Nickolay Pakoulin writes: NP> ° ŵÜÐÚá áÞÑàÐÝ á ÜãÛÕÙ? ¸ ÚÐÚÐï ÒÕàáØï ŵÜÐÚáÐ, ÝÐ ÚÐÚÞÙ ßÛÐâäÞàÜÕ? ÔÐ, 21.5 Ø× cvs, freebsd Ð ßàØ çÕÜ âãâ ßÛÐâäÞàÜÐ ? Ýã ÕáÛØ ÚÞÝÕçÝÞ ÝÕ ßàÐâì Ò àÐáçÕâ ÝÐÛØçØÕ win32 ÚÐáÐâÕÛìÝÞ ÒÕàáØØ, âÞ çâÞ Ø× cyrillic.el ãÑàÐÛØ win1251 ï ×ÐÜÕâØÛ ÕéÕ á ßÞÛÓÞÔÐ ÝÐ×ÐÔ, ÒÞâ ï áÞÑáâÒÕÝÝÞ ßÞÝïâì ÝÕ ÜÞÓã ÞâÚãÔÐ ÜÞÖÕâ Ò×ïâáï ßÞÔÔÕàÖÚÐ íâÞÙ ÚÞÔØàÞÒÚØ ÕáÛØ ßÞÛâÕÚáâÞÒëÙ ßÞØáÚ ßÞ xemacs-sumo Ø xemacs-mule-sumo Ø ßÞ ØáåÞÔÝØÚÐÜ áÐÜÞÓÞ xemacs ÔÐÕâ ÒåÞÔÖÕÝØÕ "1251" âÞÛìÚÞ Ò po-compat.el ? NP> (coding-system-p (find-coding-system 'windows-1251)) NP> ÒÞ×ÒàÐéÐÕâ t VK> Ð ÜÝÕ ÒÞ×ÒàÐéÐÕâ nil ÒÞâ ï Ø áßàÐèØÒÐî - ÚÐÚ ÜÝÕ ÔÞÑØâáï çâÞ Ñë Ò 21.5 VK> xemacs ã ÜÕÝï íâÐ coding-system ßÞïÒØÛÐáì :) ¸ ÜÝÕ âÐÚ Ø ÝÕ ãÔÐÕâáï ×ÐáâÐÒØâì GNUS ßÞáëÛÐâì ßØáìÜÐ Ò koi8-r, åÞâì quoted-printable åÞâì base64, ÝÞ Ò KOI8-R, Ð ÝÕ Ò 8859-5 ¼ÞÖÕâÕ ßÞÔáÚÐ×Ðâì ÚÐÚ âÕßÕàì ßàØÝïâÞ ÝÐáâàÐØÒÐâì koi8-r Ò GNUS (Ø× cvs) -- Vladimir Kravchenko / PK Mostcom JSC / system engineer Tel: +7 095 2312255 / UIN: 132038843 / Email: jimson@mostcom.ru From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 15 08:57:18 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FCvI121288 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:57:18 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FCv7u21192 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:57:07 -0400 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru ([195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id h4FCv6M21170 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:57:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 57058 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 12:39:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fly.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.212) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 15 May 2003 12:39:42 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) id h4FCuu9U011258 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org.KAV; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:56:56 +0400 (MSK) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (ns.ispras.ru [195.208.32.200]) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4FCuuMA011242; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:56:56 +0400 (MSK) Received: from fog (fog.ispras.ru [195.208.32.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h4FCuuum005385; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:56:56 +0400 (MSK) Received: tid QAA17764; Fri, 15 May 1998 16:57:50 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: fog: Host [195.208.53.175] claimed to be nord.kazbek.ispras.ru Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4FCxaM31170; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:59:36 +0400 To: Vladimir Kravchenko Cc: Russian XEmacs Users Subject: Re: =?koi8-r?b?y8/EydLP18vB?= cp1251 References: <878yt9zdrm.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> <87wugtzbo0.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> <87isscbdnr.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: 15 May 2003 16:57:28 +0400 In-Reply-To: <87isscbdnr.fsf@jimson.mostcom.ru> Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (beets) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING,CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADERS version=2.31 ðÌÁÔÆÏÒÍÁ ÐÒÉ ÔÏÍ, ÞÔÏ XEmacs ÎÁ Win32 É XEmacs ÎÁ unix -- ÜÔÏ Ä×Á ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÏ ÒÁÚÎÙÈ XEmacs'Ï×. åÓÌÉ ÓÏÂÒÁÎ Ó ÍÕÌÅÊ, Á ÉÓËÏÍÏÊ ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ËÉ ÎÅÔ, ÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ ÓÌÁÔØ ÂÁÇ-ÒÅÐÏÒÔ É ×ÚÑÔØ ÉÚ CVS ×ÅÒÓÉÀ cyrillic.el ÏÔ XEmacs 21.4 ÉÌÉ ÂÏÌÅÅ ÓÔÁÒÕÀ. ëÏÌÑ. intro: "VK" == Vladimir Kravchenko writes: >>>>>> "NP" == Nickolay Pakoulin writes: NP> á èåÍÁËÓ ÓÏÂÒÁÎ Ó ÍÕÌÅÊ? é ËÁËÁÑ ×ÅÒÓÉÑ èåÍÁËÓÁ, ÎÁ ËÁËÏÊ ÐÌÁÔÆÏÒÍÅ? VK> ÄÁ, 21.5 ÉÚ cvs, freebsd Á ÐÒÉ ÞÅÍ ÔÕÔ ÐÌÁÔÆÏÒÍÁ ? ÎÕ ÅÓÌÉ ËÏÎÅÞÎÏ ÎÅ VK> ÐÒÁÔØ × ÒÁÓÞÅÔ ÎÁÌÉÞÉÅ win32 VK> ËÁÓÁÔÅÌØÎÏ ×ÅÒÓÉÉ, ÔÏ ÞÔÏ ÉÚ cyrillic.el ÕÂÒÁÌÉ win1251 Ñ ÚÁÍÅÔÉÌ ÅÝÅ Ó VK> ÐÏÌÇÏÄÁ ÎÁÚÁÄ, ×ÏÔ Ñ ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÎÅ ÍÏÇÕ ÏÔËÕÄÁ ÍÏÖÅÔ ×ÚÑÔÓÑ VK> ÐÏÄÄÅÒÖËÁ ÜÔÏÊ ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ËÉ ÅÓÌÉ ÐÏÌÔÅËÓÔÏ×ÙÊ ÐÏÉÓË ÐÏ xemacs-sumo É VK> xemacs-mule-sumo É ÐÏ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÁÍ ÓÁÍÏÇÏ xemacs ÄÁÅÔ ×ÈÏÄÖÅÎÉÅ "1251" VK> ÔÏÌØËÏ × po-compat.el ? NP> (coding-system-p (find-coding-system 'windows-1251)) NP> ×ÏÚ×ÒÁÝÁÅÔ t VK> Á ÍÎÅ ×ÏÚ×ÒÁÝÁÅÔ nil ×ÏÔ Ñ É ÓÐÒÁÛÉ×ÁÀ - ËÁË ÍÎÅ ÄÏÂÉÔÓÑ ÞÔÏ ÂÙ × 21.5 VK> xemacs Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÜÔÁ coding-system ÐÏÑ×ÉÌÁÓØ :) VK> é ÍÎÅ ÔÁË É ÎÅ ÕÄÁÅÔÓÑ ÚÁÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ GNUS ÐÏÓÙÌÁÔØ ÐÉÓØÍÁ × koi8-r, ÈÏÔØ VK> quoted-printable ÈÏÔØ base64, ÎÏ × KOI8-R, Á ÎÅ × 8859-5 íÏÖÅÔÅ VK> ÐÏÄÓËÁÚÁÔØ ËÁË ÔÅÐÅÒØ ÐÒÉÎÑÔÏ ÎÁÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÔØ koi8-r × GNUS (ÉÚ cvs) VK> -- Vladimir Kravchenko / PK Mostcom JSC / system engineer Tel: +7 095 VK> 2312255 / UIN: 132038843 / Email: jimson@mostcom.ru From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 15 18:34:47 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FMYlh25448 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:34:47 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4FMYjs25408 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:34:45 -0400 Received: from smtp.telekom.ru (ns1.telekom.ru [194.190.198.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4FMYeM25376; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:34:40 -0400 Received: from unix.home (h61.217.elnet.msk.ru [194.190.217.61]) by smtp.telekom.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4FMXQ6E024461; Fri, 16 May 2003 02:33:26 +0400 Received: from deskpot by unix.home with local (Exim 4.14) id 19GRJv-0000EY-L3; Fri, 16 May 2003 02:35:27 +0400 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: TUTORIAL.ru From: deskpot@despammed.com (Vasily Korytov) Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 02:35:27 +0400 Message-ID: <878yt7on2o.fsf@unix.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.31 --==-=-= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, It's good to have the Russian translation of the Emacs tutorial distributed with XEmacs. But the current translation... really might be better. I'm aware of an alternative Russian translation by Anton Vil'kin -- in fact, I find it _much_ better. It's gzipped and attached. I've contacted Vladimir Bormotov (the author of the current TUTORIAL.ru, distributed with XEmacs), and he hadn't any objections of replacing his version with Anton's. I've also contacted Anton -- and he hadn't any objections either. So, I think. we should really do this (i.e. replacing Vladimir's translation with Anton's). Or has anyone here something against it? 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References: <16069.1737.375730.812916@gargle.gargle.HOWL> From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: 19 May 2003 14:08:42 +0400 In-Reply-To: <16069.1737.375730.812916@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (beets) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING,SUBJ_ENDS_IN_Q_MARK version=2.31 ðÏÇÒÅÐÉÔØ ÓÏÒÓÙ ÎÁ ÐÒÅÄÍÅÔ (require ...) Ó ÔÒÅÍÑ ÁÒÇÕÍÅÎÔÁÍÉ. îÁÞÁÔØ Ó ÓÏÒÓÏ× liece. îÁ×ÅÒÎÏÅ, ÉÍÉ É ÏÇÒÁÎÉÞÉÔØÓÑ. ëÏÌÑ intro: "MP" == Mikhail Pachkov writes: MP> ðÒÉ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀ ÔÅÂÑ, All! MP> ïÂÎÁÒÕÖÅÎÁ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ Ó liece (ÉÌÉ Ó Xemacs?). ðÒÉ ÚÁÐÕÓËÅ liece × ÐÅÒ×ÙÊ MP> ÒÁÚ, ×ÓÅ ÐÒÏÈÏÄÉÔ ÇÌÁÄËÏ. ïÄÎÁËÏ ÅÓÌÉ ÐÏÔÏÍ ×ÙÊÔÉ ÉÚ ÎÅÇÏ, Á ÞÅÒÅÚ MP> ËÁËÏÅ-ÔÏ ×ÒÅÍÑ ÚÁÐÕÓÔÉÔØ ÓÎÏ×Á, ÔÏ ÎÁÞÉÎÁÅÔÓÑ ÓÏÅÄÉÎÅÎÉÅ Ó ÓÅÒ×ÅÒÏÍ, MP> ËÏÔÏÒÏÅ ÚÁËÁÎÞÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ: MP> (error/warning) Error in process filter: (wrong-number-of-arguments MP> require 3) MP> óÏÅÄÉÎÅÎÉÑ ÎÅ ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ. MP> ëÁË ÒÁÓÛÉÆÒÏ×ÁÔØ ÓÉÅ ÐÏÓÌÁÎÉÅ? é ËÁËÉÍ ÍÅÔÏÄÏÍ ÜÔÏ ×ÙÌÅÞÉÔØ? MP> õÄÁÞÉ! MP> íÉÈÁÉÌ MP> -- á ÷Ù ÎÅ ÄÕÍÁÅÔÅ, ÞÔÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ Ñ ÄÕÍÁÀ - ÍÏÅ ÌÉÞÎÏÅ ÄÅÌÏ? MP> (stah@service.post.ru) From turnbull@tux.org Mon May 19 06:10:58 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4JAAwj06406 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:10:58 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4JAAvK06399 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:10:57 -0400 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru ([195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id h4JAAuM06374 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:10:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 98943 invoked from network); 19 May 2003 09:51:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fly.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.212) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 19 May 2003 09:51:43 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) id h4JA9Jv8027268 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org.KAV; Mon, 19 May 2003 14:09:19 +0400 (MSK) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (ns.ispras.ru [195.208.32.200]) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4JA9IMA027260 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 14:09:18 +0400 (MSK) Received: from fog (fog.ispras.ru [195.208.32.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h4JA9Huo024533 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 14:09:18 +0400 (MSK) Received: tid OAA15902; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:09:01 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: fog: Host [195.208.53.175] claimed to be nord.kazbek.ispras.ru Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4JAAmM09556 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 14:10:48 +0400 To: Russian XEmacs Users Subject: Re: What does it mean? 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MP> ïÂÎÁÒÕÖÅÎÁ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ Ó liece (ÉÌÉ Ó Xemacs?). ðÒÉ ÚÁÐÕÓËÅ liece × ÐÅÒ×ÙÊ MP> ÒÁÚ, ×ÓÅ ÐÒÏÈÏÄÉÔ ÇÌÁÄËÏ. ïÄÎÁËÏ ÅÓÌÉ ÐÏÔÏÍ ×ÙÊÔÉ ÉÚ ÎÅÇÏ, Á ÞÅÒÅÚ MP> ËÁËÏÅ-ÔÏ ×ÒÅÍÑ ÚÁÐÕÓÔÉÔØ ÓÎÏ×Á, ÔÏ ÎÁÞÉÎÁÅÔÓÑ ÓÏÅÄÉÎÅÎÉÅ Ó ÓÅÒ×ÅÒÏÍ, MP> ËÏÔÏÒÏÅ ÚÁËÁÎÞÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ: MP> (error/warning) Error in process filter: (wrong-number-of-arguments MP> require 3) MP> óÏÅÄÉÎÅÎÉÑ ÎÅ ÐÒÏÉÓÈÏÄÉÔ. MP> ëÁË ÒÁÓÛÉÆÒÏ×ÁÔØ ÓÉÅ ÐÏÓÌÁÎÉÅ? é ËÁËÉÍ ÍÅÔÏÄÏÍ ÜÔÏ ×ÙÌÅÞÉÔØ? MP> õÄÁÞÉ! MP> íÉÈÁÉÌ MP> -- á ÷Ù ÎÅ ÄÕÍÁÅÔÅ, ÞÔÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ Ñ ÄÕÍÁÀ - ÍÏÅ ÌÉÞÎÏÅ ÄÅÌÏ? 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ÉîÛÚÊÐÂÞºþÇøÄà¸Ú½ðÒø´óÏÃ2¶°2µ¥Ô²602ÊÒ From turnbull@tux.org Fri May 23 10:43:25 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4NEhPx16626 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 23 May 2003 10:43:25 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4NEhOV16616 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 23 May 2003 10:43:24 -0400 Received: from n2.umc.com.ua (mx.umc.com.ua [80.255.64.69]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4NEhNM16608 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 10:43:23 -0400 Received: from domino.umc.com.ua (domino.umc.com.ua [192.168.8.12]) by n2.umc.com.ua (8.12.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h4NEekCM000537 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 17:40:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from adept@umc.com.ua) Received: from dimail.umc.com.ua ([192.168.3.73]) by domino.umc.com.ua (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.6a) with ESMTP id 2003052317431147:15683 ; Fri, 23 May 2003 17:43:11 +0300 Received: from adept by dimail.umc.com.ua with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19JDjK-0007m8-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 17:41:10 +0300 To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: set-buffer-file-coding-system References: <87fzn6m65p.fsf@dimail.umc.com.ua> From: Dmitry Astapov Organization: My Humble Opinions Ltd. -- views expressed are mine and not of UMC JV X-Comment-To: Nickolay Pakoulin Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 17:41:10 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Nickolay Pakoulin's message of "Fri, 23 May 2003 16:28:12 +0400") Message-ID: <87k7chlo8p.fsf@dimail.umc.com.ua> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on Domino/UMC/UA(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 05/23/2003 05:43:11 PM, Serialize by Router on Domino/UMC/UA(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 05/23/2003 05:43:12 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id h4NEhNM16608 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.31 Evening, Nickolay. npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) 16:28 23/5/2003 wrote: NP> á ÅÓÌÉ ÐÏÐÒÏÂÏ×ÁÔØ (modify-coding-system-alist 'file "\\.wiki\\'" NP> '(windows-1251 . windows-1251)) NP> èÏÔÑ ÐÒÅÄÙÄÕÝÉÊ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ ÄÏÌÖÅÎ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÔØ É ÔÁË. çÌÀË, ÎÁ×ÅÒÎÏÅ. NP> ëÏÌÑ îÅ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ, Ñ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÑÌ É ÔÁË, É ÔÁË. ô.Å. ÇÌÀË? ëÔÏ ÅÝÅ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÐÏÄÔ×ÅÒÄÉÔØ? -- Dmitry Astapov //ADEpt E-mail: adept@umc.com.ua GPG KeyID/fprint: F5D7639D/CA36 E6C4 815D 434D 0498 2B08 7867 4860 F5D7 639D From turnbull@tux.org Sun May 25 20:37:45 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4Q0bjF11988 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 25 May 2003 20:37:45 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4Q0beb11961 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 25 May 2003 20:37:40 -0400 Received: from 146-115-45-65.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo-ubr.ma.cable.rcn.com (146-115-45-65.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo-ubr.ma.cable.rcn.com [146.115.45.65]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id h4Q0bYM11953 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 20:37:36 -0400 Received: from ddmfzj (HELO oxulf) (192.168.7.163) by 0 with SMTP; Mon, 26 May 2003 13:45:06 +0000 From: "=?windows-1251?b?0/fl4e376SD25e3y8A==?=" Message-Id: <200305261345.VMU5EPFY@iqvvdofrrv.com> To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: =?windows-1251?b?1/LuIO3z5u3uIOft4PL8IO4g5O7j7uLu8OD1ICBqeQ==?= Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:45:15 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.3 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_FULL_OF_8BITS version=2.31 www.studycenter.ru ÏÐÈÃËÀØÀÅÌ ÂÀÑ ÏÐÈÍßÒÜ Ó×ÀÑÒÈÅ Â ÑÅÌÈÍÀÐÅ "Îñíîâíûå äîãîâîðû: áóõãàëòåðñêèé ó÷åò è íàëîãîîáëîæåíèå", êîòîðûé áóäåò ïðîõîäèòü 28 ìàÿ 2003 ãîäà Ñåìèíàð îðèåíòèðîâàí íà ðóêîâîäèòåëåé, òîï-ìåíåäæåðîâ, þðèñòîâ, íàëîãîâûõ êîíñóëüòàíòîâ è áóõãàëòåðîâ. ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÀ ÑÅÌÈÍÀÐÀ: 1. Ôîðìà è ñîäåðæàíèå ãðàæäàíñêî-ïðàâîâûõ ñäåëîê. Ïðàâîâàÿ ôîðìà ñäåëîê è èõ ýêîíîìè÷åñêîå ñîäåðæàíèå. Íåäåéñòâèòåëüíûå ñäåëêè è èõ íàëîãîâûå ïîñëåäñòâèÿ Ïðèîðèòåò â áóõãàëòåðñêîì ó÷åòå ýêîíîìè÷åñêîãî ñîäåðæàíèÿ íàä ïðàâîâîé ôîðìîé. Ñóùåñòâåííûå óñëîâèÿ äîãîâîðîâ. 2. Îñîáåííîñòè áóõãàëòåðñêîãî ó÷åòà è íàëîãîîáëîæåíèÿ îòäåëüíûõ âèäîâ äîãîâîðîâ: - êóïëè-ïðîäàæè (ìîìåíò ïåðåõîäà ïðàâ ñîáñòâåííîñòè; âîçâðàò òîâàðà; îòëè÷èÿ ìåæäó ðîçíè÷íîé è îïòîâîé òîðãîâëåé; ôîðìèðîâàíèå ñêèäîê ò.ï.); - ìåíû (îñîáåííîñòè îòðàæåíèÿ â ó÷åòå ìåíû è áàðòåðà ïî ÏÁÓ 9/99 è ÏÁÓ 10/99); y - àðåíäû (ðàñõîäû ïî ðåìîíòó, ñòðàõîâàíèþ è ñîäåðæàíèþ àðåíäîâàííîãî èìóùåñòâà (âêëþ÷àÿ êîììóíàëüíûå ïëàòåæè), àðåíäà èìóùåñòâà ó ôèçè÷åñêèõ ëèö); - áåçâîçìåçäíîå ïîëüçîâàíèå èìóùåñòâîì (ññóäà); - ïîäðÿä (÷åì êàïèòàëüíûé ðåìîíò îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò ðåêîíñòðóêöèè è ìîäåðíèçàöèè?); - âîçìåçäíîå îêàçàíèå óñëóã (îñîáåííîñòè ó÷åòà ðàñõîäîâ íà îáó÷åíèå, íà îõðàíó, íà ðåêëàìó è íà îïëàòó óñëóã ñâÿçè); - ïîñðåäíè÷åñêèå ñäåëêè (ïîðó÷åíèå, êîìèññèÿ, àãåíòèðîâàíèå, äåéñòâèå â ÷óæîì èíòåðåñå áåç ïîðó÷åíèÿ); - ñòðàõîâàíèå; - ïðî÷èå âèäû ñäåëîê (ïî æåëàíèþ ñëóøàòåëåé áîëåå ïîäðîáíî ìîãóò áûòü ðàññìîòðåíû ëþáûå âèäà ñäåëîê è êîíêðåòíûõ õîçÿéñòâåííûõ äîãîâîðîâ).  õîäå ñåìèíàðà õîçÿéñòâåííûå äîãîâîðû ðàññìàòðèâàþòñÿ ñ òðåõ ïîçèöèé: ïðàâîâîé; áóõãàëòåðñêîé; íàëîãîâîé. Îòäåëüíûå ñïîðíûå ìîìåíòû èëëþñòðèðóþòñÿ ïðèìåðàìè èç ñóäåáíî-àðáèòðàæíîé ïðàêòèêè êàê Âûñøåãî Àðáèòðàæíîãî Ñóäà ÐÔ, òàê è Ôåäåðàëüíûõ àðáèòðàæíûõ ñóäîâ îêðóãîâ Ðîññèè. Íà ñåìèíàðå âûñòóïàåò: ÌÅÄÂÅÄÅ Àëåêñàíäð Íèêîëàåâè÷, ê.ý.í, ãëàâíûé àóäèòîð ÇÀÎ "Àóäèò ÁÒ", àâòîð 40 êíèã è ñâûøå 200 æóðíàëüíûõ ñòàòåé ïî âîïðîñàì áóõãàëòåðñêîãî ó÷åòà, íàëîãîîáëîæåíèÿ è õîçÿéñòâåííîãî ïðàâà. Îðãàíèçàòîð ñåìèíàðîâ Ìåæäóíàðîäíûé öåíòð îáó÷åíèÿ. Êîíòàêòíûå òåëåôîíû: 207-26-21, 789-81-90 Ïðè ó÷àñòèè îäíîãî ÷åëîâåêà ñòîèìîñòü ëþáîãî ñåìèíàðà ñîñòàâëÿåò 3900 ðóá., ñ ó÷åòîì ÍÄÑ. Ïðè ó÷àñòèè â äâóõ ñåìèíàðàõ (èëè äâóõ ÷åëîâåê â îäíîì ñåìèíàðå) ïðåäîñòàâëÿåòñÿ ñêèäêà 10%. Ïðè ó÷àñòèè â òðåõ ñåìèíàðàõ (èëè òðåõ ÷åëîâåê), ÷åòâåðòûé - â ïîäàðîê. www.studycenter.ru pmxoruwq From turnbull@tux.org Mon May 26 05:17:02 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4Q9H2i06255 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:17:02 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4Q9H1x06247 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:17:01 -0400 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru ([195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id h4Q9GwM06239 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:17:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 18257 invoked from network); 26 May 2003 08:58:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fly.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.212) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 26 May 2003 08:58:37 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) id h4Q9Gm8g001647 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org.KAV; Mon, 26 May 2003 13:16:48 +0400 (MSK) Received: from gate.ispras.ru (ns.ispras.ru [195.208.32.200]) by fly.ispras.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4Q9GlMA001639 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 13:16:48 +0400 (MSK) Received: from fog (fog.ispras.ru [195.208.32.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h4Q9Glum010446 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 13:16:48 +0400 (MSK) Received: tid NAA08991; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:17:43 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: fog: Host [195.208.53.175] claimed to be nord.kazbek.ispras.ru Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4Q9JfM26880 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 13:19:41 +0400 To: Russian XEmacs Users Subject: Re: set-buffer-file-coding-system References: <87fzn6m65p.fsf@dimail.umc.com.ua> <87k7chlo8p.fsf@dimail.umc.com.ua> From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: 26 May 2003 13:17:25 +0400 In-Reply-To: <87k7chlo8p.fsf@dimail.umc.com.ua> Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (beets) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.31 á ÅÓÌÉ ÐÏÐÒÏÂÏ×ÁÔØ ÎÁ ÄÒÕÇÉÈ ÆÁÊÌÁÈ, Ó ÉÎÙÍ ÒÁÓÛÉÒÅÎÉÅÍ? îÁÐÒÉÍÅÒ, (modify-coding-system-alist 'file "\\.abc\\'" 'windows-1251) åÓÌÉ ÄÌÑ ÉÎÙÈ ÒÁÓÛÉÒÅÎÉÊ ÐÏ×ÅÄÅÎÉÅ ÓÏÈÒÁÎÉÔØÓÑ, ÔÏÇÄÁ ÇÌÀË. îÏ ÐÏ ÐÒÁ×ÉÌÁÍ, ÔÏÇÄÁ ÅÇÏ ÎÁÄÏ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÉÔØ × ÂÏÌÅÅ ÎÏ×ÙÈ ×ÅÒÓÉÑÈ xemacs-21.4, ×ÄÒÕÇ ÔÁÍ ÕÖÅ ÐÏÐÒÁ×ÉÌÉ. ëÏÌÑ. intro: "DA" == Dmitry Astapov writes: DA> Evening, Nickolay. DA> npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) 16:28 23/5/2003 wrote: NP> á ÅÓÌÉ ÐÏÐÒÏÂÏ×ÁÔØ (modify-coding-system-alist 'file "\\.wiki\\'" NP> '(windows-1251 . windows-1251)) NP> èÏÔÑ ÐÒÅÄÙÄÕÝÉÊ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ ÄÏÌÖÅÎ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÔØ É ÔÁË. çÌÀË, ÎÁ×ÅÒÎÏÅ. NP> ëÏÌÑ DA> îÅ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ, Ñ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÑÌ É ÔÁË, É ÔÁË. ô.Å. ÇÌÀË? ëÔÏ ÅÝÅ ÍÏÖÅÔ DA> ÐÏÄÔ×ÅÒÄÉÔØ? DA> -- Dmitry Astapov //ADEpt E-mail: adept@umc.com.ua GPG KeyID/fprint: DA> F5D7639D/CA36 E6C4 815D 434D 0498 2B08 7867 4860 F5D7 639D From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 29 18:12:37 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4TMCbQ06035 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 May 2003 18:12:37 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4TMCad06025 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 May 2003 18:12:36 -0400 Received: from syl.extundo.com (syl.extundo.com [212.32.189.101]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4TMCYM06013 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 18:12:34 -0400 Received: from VOSTOK (225.Red-80-38-224.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.38.224.225]) by syl.extundo.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4TMUJ0D028143 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 00:30:21 +0200 Message-Id: <200305292230.h4TMUJ0D028143@syl.extundo.com> From: "Paypal" To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Notification of Payment Received X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Reply-To: Jean-Luc@paypal.com Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:07:58 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-96.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_NAME_NO_SPACES,DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,SUPERLONG_LINE, USER_IN_WHITELIST,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3 version=2.31 SEND"THE $10 LETTER" TO AS MANY AS YOU CAN AND GET A HUGE RETURN ON YOUR MONEY!! Send 10 $ and get 260 $ , We know it sounds TOO good to BE true, but it’s REAL! "We had a great success with "The Letter" and this is the second time for me! I have received $2.700 in 30 days! Follow the simple instructions below and in a few days you could have thousands of dollars as the response rate will be HUGE due to the tiny investment required and the MASSIVE potential. We believe the return rate is currently as good as 70%! You could do this as often as you like. I'll explain how simple it is: Log into your paypal account. If you don't have a Paypal account signup here: https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=WFP7SFU9TCRLL and send $10 dollars to: NEXT DUE: jhm02@caramail.com who is currently the next person in line. Next, move this address: PENDING 1. village5@guay.com up into the "NEXT DUE" slot. Next, move this address: PENDING 2. jhm02@caramail.com up into "PENDING 1" slot, and put your own email address into the "PENDING 2" slot. Now send the mail to as many people as you possibly can. Having done this once, you'll see how easy it is. ONLY SEND money to the first person on the list. And DON'T cheat! If you attempt to move your name up to the top it will not work. You may get a few dollars but you will not get anywhere near as much as is possible when the rules are followed, it also cheats others out of their due money. You could possibly send out to over 30,000 prospects or more! And let's say you get a low 2% response rate from those 30,000. That's still a heck of a lot more than what you put into it! Then those 2% that responded send out another 30,000 with your name in number 2 and they get a 2% response, then those 2% send out another 30,000 enails with only 2% response! That's 90,000 emails sent to prospects by the time you are in the first place. With only two names in your branch you can expect it to happen VERY quickly! But you KNOW you wil get your 10 dollars back! What would happen if you m! ailed 30,000 prospects? You can do this again and again. AGAIN, DO NOT CHEAT. IF YOUR "BRANCH" IS BROKEN YOU WON'T GET ANYTHING NEAR THE RETURN! This is not a chain letter. You can refer to title 18, section 1302 of the Postal and Lottery Code. "I'll just never know if I don't take a chance, will I? We all have to take a leap of faith now and then! bryan "As they say; nothing ventured, nothing gained. So don't just dream - make those dreams come true. The worst risk that you could take is not taking any risk at all" bethy "My second go at it! LAST TRY I got a whopping $10,745, That's sending out 35,000 emails! I'm so exited. Just wish more people would give it a try. Then how much would I get? Wow! Boggles the mind." "This does work. I signed up and I'm nobody's fool! barbara "I've done one of these before and I got $9,260 back - for $10 down. WOW!"enrique So, in fact we all help each other to make a huge return on our $10!! Don't cheat and make yourself and your prospects a big favour!! From turnbull@tux.org Thu May 29 20:02:02 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4U022t13500 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 May 2003 20:02:02 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id h4U01rc13443 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 May 2003 20:01:53 -0400 Received: from syl.extundo.com (syl.extundo.com [212.32.189.101]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id h4U01oM13430 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 20:01:51 -0400 Received: from VOSTOK (225.Red-80-38-224.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.38.224.225]) by syl.extundo.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4U0Jm0D028255 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:19:50 +0200 Message-Id: <200305300019.h4U0Jm0D028255@syl.extundo.com> From: "Paypal" To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Notification of Payment Received X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Reply-To: Jean-Luc@paypal.com Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 01:57:27 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: users-ru X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-96.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_NAME_NO_SPACES,DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,SUPERLONG_LINE, USER_IN_WHITELIST,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3 version=2.31 SEND"THE $10 LETTER" TO AS MANY AS YOU CAN AND GET A HUGE RETURN ON YOUR MONEY!! Send 10 $ and get 260 $ , We know it sounds TOO good to BE true, but it’s REAL! "We had a great success with "The Letter" and this is the second time for me! I have received $2.700 in 30 days! Follow the simple instructions below and in a few days you could have thousands of dollars as the response rate will be HUGE due to the tiny investment required and the MASSIVE potential. We believe the return rate is currently as good as 70%! You could do this as often as you like. I'll explain how simple it is: Log into your paypal account. If you don't have a Paypal account signup here: https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=WFP7SFU9TCRLL and send $10 dollars to: NEXT DUE: jhm02@caramail.com who is currently the next person in line. Next, move this address: PENDING 1. village5@guay.com up into the "NEXT DUE" slot. Next, move this address: PENDING 2. jhm02@caramail.com up into "PENDING 1" slot, and put your own email address into the "PENDING 2" slot. Now send the mail to as many people as you possibly can. Having done this once, you'll see how easy it is. ONLY SEND money to the first person on the list. And DON'T cheat! If you attempt to move your name up to the top it will not work. You may get a few dollars but you will not get anywhere near as much as is possible when the rules are followed, it also cheats others out of their due money. You could possibly send out to over 30,000 prospects or more! And let's say you get a low 2% response rate from those 30,000. That's still a heck of a lot more than what you put into it! Then those 2% that responded send out another 30,000 with your name in number 2 and they get a 2% response, then those 2% send out another 30,000 enails with only 2% response! That's 90,000 emails sent to prospects by the time you are in the first place. With only two names in your branch you can expect it to happen VERY quickly! But you KNOW you wil get your 10 dollars back! What would happen if you m! ailed 30,000 prospects? You can do this again and again. AGAIN, DO NOT CHEAT. IF YOUR "BRANCH" IS BROKEN YOU WON'T GET ANYTHING NEAR THE RETURN! This is not a chain letter. You can refer to title 18, section 1302 of the Postal and Lottery Code. "I'll just never know if I don't take a chance, will I? We all have to take a leap of faith now and then! bryan "As they say; nothing ventured, nothing gained. So don't just dream - make those dreams come true. The worst risk that you could take is not taking any risk at all" bethy "My second go at it! LAST TRY I got a whopping $10,745, That's sending out 35,000 emails! I'm so exited. Just wish more people would give it a try. Then how much would I get? Wow! Boggles the mind." "This does work. I signed up and I'm nobody's fool! barbara "I've done one of these before and I got $9,260 back - for $10 down. WOW!"enrique So, in fact we all help each other to make a huge return on our $10!! Don't cheat and make yourself and your prospects a big favour!!