From turnbull@tux.org Fri Jan 3 03:10:13 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA19155 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:13 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA19151 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:13 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA19146 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:13 -0500 Resent-From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Resent-Message-ID: <15893.17765.362095.738616@gwyn.tux.org> Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:13 -0500 (EST) Resent-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <15891.25201.390263.799052@tyranny.tyranny.hsys.msk.ru> X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp" XEmacs Lucid Old-X-XEmacs-List: users-ru From: Alexey Mahotkin To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Святой Грааль Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:49:37 +0300 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru привет, не в силах более выдерживать, и проч., и проч., планирую в ближайшие несколько недель окончательно разобраться с корректным функционированием современного XEmacs 21.5 + Mule (за которой будущее) + kkcc (просто для фана) + pdump (который давно пора сделать стандартным). Операционная система Debian 3.0 (но сознательно игнорируя зависимость от дистрибутива), XFree86 4.1.0+Xkb. Цели: - всё должно работать из коробки; - корректная кириллизация всех компонентов, до которых получится дотянуться (базовых и распространённых пакетов); - современные кодировки типа UTF-8 (для xml/xslt); - "All Children Must Eat!" (c) Как подсказывают нам некоторые, всё, что декларируется выше, можно осуществить, если взять патчи с ftp://ftp.altlinux.ru/pub/distributions/ALTLinux/Sisyphus/files/SRPMS/ Посмотрим. В последующих письмах будут излагаться все детали этого изнурительного процесса. Замеченные проблемы заключены в псевдо-тэги . Если у вас есть что сказать по этому поводу или вы лучше меня умеете пользоваться поиском по xemacs-beta -- raise your voice. Так дальше жить нельзя. --alexm From turnbull@tux.org Fri Jan 3 03:10:34 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA19187 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA19183 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:34 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA19178 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:34 -0500 Resent-From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Resent-Message-ID: <15893.17786.244192.337871@gwyn.tux.org> Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:34 -0500 (EST) Resent-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <15891.25237.291226.659434@tyranny.tyranny.hsys.msk.ru> X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp" XEmacs Lucid Old-X-XEmacs-List: users-ru From: Alexey Mahotkin To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Сборка и установка Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:50:13 +0300 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru Пререквизиты ------------- XFree86 4.1.0, xkb, русские шрифты cyr-rfx (Debian 3.0). gcc 2.95.4, makeinfo 4.1 Извлечение из CVS ------------------ В соответствии с инструкциями на http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html: $ cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.xemacs.org:/pack/xemacscvs login (пароль 'cvs'). Извлекаем модуль: $ cvs /var/src/ $ cvs -z3 -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.xemacs.org:/pack/xemacscvs checkout -d xemacs-beta xemacs Сборка ------- Собирать будем в каталоге /var/build/xemacs-beta/ $ cd /var/build/xemacs-beta/ $ /var/src/xemacs-beta/configure --prefix=/usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/ \ --with-mule --use-kkcc --pdump $ make Установка ---------- Устанавливаем в каталог /usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/, далее обозначаемый как $prefix. $ cd /var/build/xemacs-beta/ # make install После установки раскладка по каталогам примерно такова: $prefix/ bin/ бинарники lib/ xemacs-$version/ специфичные для версии вещи (например, xemacs-21.5-b9) etc/ куча мусора $arch/ вспомогательные бинарники (например, i686-pc-linux) info/ стандартная .info-документация lisp/ базовые elisp-файлы xemacs/ mule-packages/ пакеты для Mule (каталог нужно создать руками) site-lisp/ ??? site-modules/ модули, специфичные для данной машины xemacs-packages/ пакеты общего назначения (без привязки к Mule) (каталог нужно создать руками) man/ man1/ документация в формате man В каталогах $prefix/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ и xemacs-packages/ находится стандартная файловая структура пакетов, а именно: etc/ всякий мусор info/ .info-документация на модули lisp/ elisp-файлы модулей foo, bar, foo/ quux, etc. bar/ quux/ man/ исходники документации в Texinfo (и, наверное, в формате man) pkginfo/ файлы MANIFEST.*, содержащие список файлов, принадлежащих модулям Каталоги $prefix/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ и xemacs-packages/ не создаются автоматически при установке. Заметим, что при этом каталоги $prefix/lib/xemacs/site-lisp/ и site-modules/ создаются при установке. Это требует обращения к документации и ручного создания каталогов. Эта проблема отпадает при использовании пакетов из дистрибутива. Создаём эти каталоги вручную: # cd $prefix/lib/xemacs # mkdir xemacs-packages/ mule-packages/ Для того, чтобы воспользоваться автоматической системой установки пакетов, сначала нужно вручную установить пакеты efs, xemacs-base и Mule-пакет mule-base. Скачиваем эти пакеты с ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/packages/ и разворачиваем их в соответствующие каталоги: # cd $prefix/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ # tar zxfv $download_dir/xemacs-base-1.71-pkg.tar.gz # tar zxfv $download_dir/efs-1.29-pkg.tar.gz # cd $prefix/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ # tar zxfv $download_dir/mule-base-1.42-pkg.tar.gz Теперь после запуска $prefix/bin/xemacs в переменной load-path [C-h v load-path RET] окажутся следующие каталоги: "/usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/lib/xemacs/site-lisp/" "/usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/" "/usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/" "/usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/" "/usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/efs/" "/usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/" "/usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/lib/xemacs-21.5-b9/lisp/mule/" "/usr/local/xemacs-beta-mule/lib/xemacs-21.5-b9/lisp/" Как видно, соответствующие подкаталоги из "волшебных" каталогов mule-packages/ и xemacs-packages/ автоматически оказались в load-path. После установки дополнительных пакетов их подкаталоги будут добавлены в load-path или при старте, или с помощью менеджера пакетов [M-x pui-list-packages RET]. --alexm From turnbull@tux.org Fri Jan 3 03:10:49 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA19215 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA19211 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:48 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA19206 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:48 -0500 Resent-From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Resent-Message-ID: <15893.17800.879676.493592@gwyn.tux.org> Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:10:48 -0500 (EST) Resent-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <15891.29632.705479.596959@tyranny.tyranny.hsys.msk.ru> X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp" XEmacs Lucid Old-X-XEmacs-List: users-ru From: Alexey Mahotkin To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: первый запуск [предварительно] Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:03:28 +0300 X-XEmacs-List: users-ru Во-первых, как ужить вместе XEmacs 21.4 (основной рабочий) и XEmacs 21.5 (глюкавый как я не знаю что): - убить ~/.emacs, если не нужно; - переименовать текущий ~/.xemacs/init.el в ~/.xemacs/init-21.4.el; - написать в ~/.xemacs/init.el следующее: ;; ;; This is 'dispatcher' file which allows to use both ;; ~/.xemacs/init-21.4.el and ~/.xemacs-21.5.el ;; when working simultaneously with gamma- and beta-XEmacsen. ;; (load-file (expand-file-name (concat "init-" (int-to-string emacs-major-version) "." (int-to-string emacs-minor-version) ".el") (expand-file-name ".xemacs" "~"))) - соответственно, использовать ~/.xemacs-21.5.el в качестве init-файла для beta-XEmacs'а; Во-вторых, после первого запуска я получил следующее: - XEmacs интерпретирует мой старый init.el как UTF-16. init.el написан по большей части в ASCII, внутри (далеко) есть две строки в koi8-r. Убедить его в обратном у меня не получилось пока. Другие файлы на русском с примесью английского он распознает как "Raw". Закономерности не замечено. --alexm From turnbull@tux.org Fri Jan 3 06:41:27 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA30494 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:41:27 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA30490 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:41:27 -0500 Received: from ns1.telekom.ru (ns1.telekom.ru [194.190.195.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA30486 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:41:26 -0500 Received: from unix.home (h48.217.elnet.msk.ru [194.190.217.48]) by ns1.telekom.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h03BfPvX018995 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:41:28 +0300 Received: by unix.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 52EDFDE9; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:38:08 +0300 (MSK) To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: =?koi8-r?b?88LP0svBIMkg1dPUwc7P?= =?koi8-r?b?18vB?= References: <15891.25237.291226.659434@tyranny.tyranny.hsys.msk.ru> X-Attribution: VK Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org From: Vasily Korytov Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:38:05 +0300 In-Reply-To: <15891.25237.291226.659434@tyranny.tyranny.hsys.msk.ru> (Alexey Mahotkin's message of "Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:50:13 +0300") Message-ID: <87znqi79b6.fsf@unix.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; 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Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:26:27 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA13875 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:26:26 -0500 Received: from ns1.telekom.ru (ns1.telekom.ru [194.190.195.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13868 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:26:26 -0500 Received: from unix.home (h4.37.elnet.msk.ru [195.58.37.4]) by ns1.telekom.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h04HQQRF019543 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 20:26:28 +0300 Received: by unix.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2528757E5; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 20:03:12 +0300 (MSK) To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Caution: 21.4.11 upgrade X-Attribution: VK From: Vasily Korytov Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.4 (Military Intelligence, i686-pc-linux) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 20:03:09 +0300 Message-ID: <87u1gon8z6.fsf@unix.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: users-ru --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; 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Sun, 5 Jan 2003 01:59:49 -0500 Received: from ns1.telekom.ru (ns1.telekom.ru [194.190.195.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA32709; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 01:59:48 -0500 Received: from unix.home (h114.217.elnet.msk.ru [194.190.217.114]) by ns1.telekom.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h056xrQo014596; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 09:59:53 +0300 Received: by unix.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 02732FD7; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 10:00:05 +0300 (MSK) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Cyrillic letters abort i-search sometimes X-Attribution: VK From: deskpot@myrealbox.com (Vasily Korytov) Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: <87heco163i.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2003 15:08:33 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.4 (Military Intelligence, i686-pc-linux) References: <87n0mhgh9a.fsf@unix.home> <87heco163i.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 09:52:47 +0300 Lines: 68 Message-ID: <87lm20hyjj.fsf@unix.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: users-ru --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, in the last message I've misspelt the xemacs-users-ru address, so, Stephen and xemacs-beta, please discard that one in the favor of this one -- I'm resending it with the correct address. >>>>> "SJT" =3D=3D Stephen J Turnbull writes: SJT> Alexey Mahotkin is working on a similar problem. SJT> You might want to ask on the xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org list, too. I think, it's a good idea to CC the latter. So doing so. VK> [1]: Signaling: (undefined-keystroke-sequence [# Cyrillic_te>]) VK> [2]: Signaling: (undefined-keystroke-sequence [#]) SJT> I don't understand how ru-keys works. But I would think for X Ok, let's leave ru-keys. AFAIK, on tty it sets up only the case table. It's simply `xemacs -q -nw` with: (set-input-mode (car (current-input-mode)) (nth 1 (current-input-mode)) 0) The problem is present, while Cyrillic letters (and, say, umlauts -- I've heard, there's a similar problem for German users) work in most places -- say, in i-search in fundamental-mode. But not in i-search in dired or view-mode, or gnus-summary-mode (according to the news:gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup, the problem with the latter also occurs in MULE-enabled XEmacs -- but not in GNU Emacs; Gnus towers are also notified of this bug but in today's Gnus snapshot there's nothing to work around this)... SJT> (define-key global-map [Cyrillic_te] #'self-insert-command) SJT> (put Cyrillic_te 'ascii-character ?=D4) Maybe, a typo in the second string? It does not evaluate here. SJT> and for TTY SJT> (define-key global-map [?=D4] #'self-insert-command) SJT> should give correct results. I'm afraid, it doesn't. =3D(( Alike strings seem not to do _anything_ here. SJT> AFAIK isearch does not override global-map as a whole. Let me repeat: the problem appears only in i-search in certain modes; others are OK. =2D--Vas --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+F9f0oPg1JPzYGEERAhDlAKCVelj56OUMsVQnKf7oHg+e/veqPACgqPH3 JdC7FJQhKota45PgC4qrz60= =Hux3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From turnbull@tux.org Mon Jan 6 12:01:52 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA28379 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:01:52 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA28368 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:01:52 -0500 Received: from ns1.telekom.ru (ns1.telekom.ru [194.190.195.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28363; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:01:48 -0500 Received: from unix.home (h23.217.elnet.msk.ru [194.190.217.23]) by ns1.telekom.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h06H1k4L013966; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 20:01:49 +0300 Received: by unix.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A6095FE3; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 20:01:52 +0300 (MSK) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Cyrillic letters abort i-search sometimes X-Attribution: VK Mail-Followup-To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org From: deskpot@myrealbox.com (Vasily Korytov) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 20:01:46 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87heco163i.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2003 15:08:33 +0900") Message-ID: <87k7hi6wlh.fsf@unix.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.4 (Military Intelligence, i686-pc-linux) References: <87n0mhgh9a.fsf@unix.home> <87heco163i.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: users-ru --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "SJT" =3D=3D Stephen J Turnbull writes: I've finally guessed. =3D)) SJT> AFAIK isearch does not override global-map as a whole. Yes, and it's the problem. (suppress-keymap ...) in a nutshell undefines all Cyrillic keys (as well as ASCII ones) -- but isearch, when called From=20a mode with such a map, needs them -- and doesn't know, how to restore them. There's a block in isearch-mode.el: =2D-8<------------------------schnipp------------------------->8--- ;; Bind all printing characters to `isearch-printing-char'. ;; This isn't normally necessary, but if a printing character were ;; bound to something other than self-insert-command in global-map, ;; then it would terminate the search and be executed without this. (let ((i 32) (str (make-string 1 0))) (while (< i 127) (aset str 0 i) (define-key map str 'isearch-printing-char) (setq i (1+ i)))) =2D-8<------------------------schnapp------------------------->8--- Is seems, the only thing one needs is to add Cyrillic initialization there. =3D)) I can write mapping for all letters keysums, as Stephen suggests, like this: (define-key isearch-mode-map [=D4] 'isearch-printing-char) But would it be grecefil? IIRC, GNU Emacs doesn't have this problem. Can anyone say, how this case is worked around there? If there's no a better way for two days, I'll post a quick Russian work-around, as described before. =2D--Vas --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GbaAoPg1JPzYGEERApUDAJ9yzdXtOZZN0zoi/7hoAJOamYTcTQCfdwLx DRWXH21p7cjxzDm6SWidvJA= =ma8U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From turnbull@tux.org Mon Jan 6 13:24:56 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA03161 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:24:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA03150 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:24:56 -0500 Received: from ns1.telekom.ru (ns1.telekom.ru [194.190.195.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03146; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:24:54 -0500 Received: from unix.home (h43.217.elnet.msk.ru [194.190.217.43]) by ns1.telekom.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h06IOxw4030095; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:25:00 +0300 Received: by unix.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 10AB9FE3; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:24:33 +0300 (MSK) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Cyrillic letters abort i-search sometimes X-Attribution: VK Mail-Followup-To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org From: deskpot@myrealbox.com (Vasily Korytov) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:24:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87k7hi6wlh.fsf@unix.home> (deskpot@myrealbox.com's message of "Mon, 06 Jan 2003 20:01:46 +0300") Message-ID: <87n0mekug1.fsf@unix.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.4 (Military Intelligence, i686-pc-linux) References: <87n0mhgh9a.fsf@unix.home> <87heco163i.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k7hi6wlh.fsf@unix.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: users-ru --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "VK" =3D=3D Vasily Korytov writes: VK> If there's no a better way for two days, I'll post a quick Russian VK> work-around, as described before. I decided not to wait and wrote it now. It works here. =3D)) =2D--Vas =2D-8<------------------------schnipp------------------------->8--- ;; isearch in XEmacs (at least, up to 21.4.11) is broken: in modes, that ;; have (suppress-keymap ...) in their map, it can accept only ASCII ;; letters. This hack seems to fix it. ;; Public domain. Originally by Vasily Korytov. ;; I use Russian letters and keysums. If you don't, change this: ;; (defconst self-insert-list (list 'Cyrillic_IO '=B3 'Cyrillic_io '=A3 'Cyrillic_SHORTI '=EA 'Cyrillic_shorti '=CA 'Cyrillic_TSE '=E3 'Cyrillic_tse '=C3 'Cyrillic_U '=F5 'Cyrillic_u '=D5 'Cyrillic_KA '=EB 'Cyrillic_ka '=CB 'Cyrillic_IE '=E5 'Cyrillic_ie '=C5 'Cyrillic_EN '=EE 'Cyrillic_en '=CE 'Cyrillic_GHE '=E7 'Cyrillic_ghe '=C7 'Cyrillic_SHA '=FB 'Cyrillic_sha '=DB 'Cyrillic_SHCHA '=FD 'Cyrillic_shcha '=DD 'Cyrillic_ZE '=FA 'Cyrillic_ze '=DA 'Cyrillic_HA '=E8 'Cyrillic_ha '=C8 'Cyrillic_HARDSIGN '=FF 'Cyrillic_hardsign '=DF 'Cyrillic_EF '=E6 'Cyrillic_ef '=C6 'Cyrillic_YERU '=F9 'Cyrillic_yeru '=D9 'Cyrillic_VE '=F7 'Cyrillic_ve '=D7 'Cyrillic_A '=E1 'Cyrillic_a '=C1 'Cyrillic_PE '=F0 'Cyrillic_pe '=D0 'Cyrillic_ER '=F2 'Cyrillic_er '=D2 'Cyrillic_O '=EF 'Cyrillic_o '=CF 'Cyrillic_EL '=EC 'Cyrillic_el '=CC 'Cyrillic_DE '=E4 'Cyrillic_de '=C4 'Cyrillic_ZHE '=F6 'Cyrillic_zhe '=D6 'Cyrillic_E '=FC 'Cyrillic_e '=DC 'Cyrillic_YA '=F1 'Cyrillic_ya '=D1 'Cyrillic_CHE '=FE 'Cyrillic_che '=DE 'Cyrillic_ES '=F3 'Cyrillic_es '=D3 'Cyrillic_EM '=ED 'Cyrillic_em '=CD 'Cyrillic_I '=E9 'Cyrillic_i '=C9 'Cyrillic_TE '=F4 'Cyrillic_te '=D4 'Cyrillic_SOFTSIGN '=F8 'Cyrillic_softsign '=D8 'Cyrillic_BE '=E2 'Cyrillic_be '=C2 'Cyrillic_YU '=E0 'Cyrillic_yu '=C0 ) "List of non-ASCII letters, that are in use.") (let ((list self-insert-list)) (while list (define-key isearch-mode-map (car list) 'isearch-printing-char) (setq list (cdr list)))) (provide 'isearch-vk-fix-keymap) =2D-8<------------------------schnapp------------------------->8--- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GcngoPg1JPzYGEERAgXvAJ0fQbsoyAxkju9g+kemzJW0FgpfLQCcC7oV g8q3g8Ni4RiMXIhvleekfT8= =VnOq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From turnbull@tux.org Mon Jan 6 22:03:38 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA10472 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 22:03:38 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA10466 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 22:03:38 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA10454; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 22:03:37 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18Vk0y-0004Oa-00; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 12:02:52 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Cyrillic letters abort i-search sometimes References: <87n0mhgh9a.fsf@unix.home> <87heco163i.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k7hi6wlh.fsf@unix.home> <87n0mekug1.fsf@unix.home> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 12:02:51 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87n0mekug1.fsf@unix.home> (deskpot@myrealbox.com's message of "Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:24:30 +0300") Message-ID: <87u1gl64ro.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Native Windows TTY Support, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: "Stephen J. Turnbull" X-XEmacs-List: users-ru >>>>> "VK" == Vasily Korytov writes: VK> I decided not to wait and wrote it now. It works here. =)) I think it's preferable to change the `127' in the original loop to `(if (featurep 'mule) 127 255)'. This works for everybody in a non-Mule XEmacs, including non-ISO-conformant charsets like Windows-125x and (IIRC) KOI8 which put graphic characters in the C1 set (== code points 0x80--0x9F). The reason for the featurep is that I want to fix all of Mule (if it's broken in a similar way), not just ISO 8859-1. 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Sign up now --0-777578195-1043134428=:86412-- From turnbull@tux.org Tue Jan 21 07:50:29 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA11172 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:50:29 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA11168 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:50:28 -0500 Received: from neva.vlink.ru (neva.vlink.ru [195.239.222.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA11164 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:50:28 -0500 Received: from neva.vlink.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neva.vlink.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0LCoQ0l010472 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:50:26 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from dsh@neva.vlink.ru) Received: (from dsh@localhost) by neva.vlink.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0LCoQ7H010471; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:50:26 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from dsh@neva.vlink.ru) To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: 21.5.10: gnus From: Denis Shaposhnikov Date: 21 Jan 2003 15:50:26 +0300 Message-ID: <87n0lupsz1.fsf@neva.vlink.ru> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (burdock) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru Поставил 21.5.10 без mule. Все нормально, но что-то gnus перестал раскодировать закодированные заголовки. Как это поправить? До этого 21.4.11 тоже без mule и gnus их автоматически раскодировал. -- DSS5-RIPE DSS-RIPN 2:550/5068@fidonet 2:550/5069@fidonet mailto:dsh@vlink.ru http://neva.vlink.ru/~dsh/ From turnbull@tux.org Tue Jan 21 12:15:15 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA26635 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:15:15 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA26631 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:15:14 -0500 Received: from ns1.telekom.ru (ns1.telekom.ru [194.190.195.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26625 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:15:13 -0500 Received: from unix.home (h49.217.elnet.msk.ru [194.190.217.49]) by ns1.telekom.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h0LHFARQ010280 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:15:11 +0300 Received: (qmail 604 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2003 17:16:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (alias@127.0.0.1) by localhost with QMTP; 21 Jan 2003 17:16:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 567 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Jan 2003 17:16:09 -0000 To: Denis Shaposhnikov Cc: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: 21.5.10: gnus X-Attribution: VK Mail-Followup-To: Denis Shaposhnikov , xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org From: deskpot@myrealbox.com (Vasily Korytov) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:16:07 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87n0lupsz1.fsf@neva.vlink.ru> (Denis Shaposhnikov's message of "21 Jan 2003 15:50:26 +0300") Message-ID: <87ptqqbezs.fsf@unix.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090013 (Oort Gnus v0.13) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, i686-pc-linux) References: <87n0lupsz1.fsf@neva.vlink.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: users-ru --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Pj4+Pj4gIkRTIiA9PSBEZW5pcyBTaGFwb3Nobmlrb3Ygd3JpdGVzOg0KDQogRFM+IPDP09TB 18nMIDIxLjUuMTAgwsXaIG11bGUuIPfTxSDOz9LNwczYzs8sIM7PIN7Uzy3UzyBnbnVzINDF 0sXT1MHMDQogRFM+INLB08vPxMnSz9fB1Ngg2sHLz8TJ0s/Xwc7O2cUg2sHHz8zP18vJLiDr wcsg3NTPINDP0NLB18nU2D8g5M8g3NTPx88NCiBEUz4gMjEuNC4xMSDUz9bFIMLF2iBtdWxl IMkgZ251cyDJyCDB19TPzcHUyd7F08vJINLB08vPxMnSz9fBzC4NCg0K7c/KINTFwsUgxM/C 0tnKINPP18XUOiDF08zJINTZIM7FIM3P1sXb2CDMz8vBzMnaz9fB1Ngg0NLPwszFzdUsIMnM ySDIz9TRDQrC2SDH0sHNz9TOzyDFxSDP0MnTwdTYLCAqzsUgydPQz8zY2tXKIGJldGEqIC0t IM/OwSDF3cUgz97Fztgtz97FztgNCs7F09TBwsnM2M7BLiAo88/X08XNIM7FxMHXzs8g1yA8 bmV3czpnbnUuZW1hY3MuZ251cz4gwtnMIM/Eyc4g09TSwcTBzMXDLA0KxNXNwdfbycosIN7U zyAyMS41LmIxMCDT1MHCyczYzsXFIDIxLjUuYjkgLS0gySDOwdTLztXX28nK09EgzsEg08zP zcHOztXADQpjYWxsLXByb2Nlc3MuKQ0KDQr81M8gzc/WxdQg2tfV3sHU2CDH0tXCzywgzs8s INDPIMvSwcrOxcogzcXSxSwg08/P1NfF1NPU19XF1CDJ09TJzsUuDQoNCi0tLVZhcw0K --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+LYBZoPg1JPzYGEERAniyAKCnM27PYzbYENOofjooU/HPJnr4CwCgoT6b fmHzdjcwuyLQklVQTTKSs9M= =Crf0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From turnbull@tux.org Wed Jan 22 00:27:13 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA18448 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:27:13 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA18444 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:27:13 -0500 Received: from mail.mtcm.ru (applix.mtcm.ru [212.16.26.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA18438 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:27:12 -0500 Received: by mail.mtcm.ru (Postfix, from userid 916) id B5737BDFD; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:26:51 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (applix [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mtcm.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90984BCD0 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:26:51 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:26:51 +0300 (MSK) From: Olli Artemjev X-Sender: olli@localhost.localdomain To: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: FAQ In-Reply-To: <87n0lupsz1.fsf@neva.vlink.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-XEmacs-List: users-ru Подкинте плиз urlиков на FAQ/HOWTO по настройке. Система ALT Linux Master 2.0 , нужно построить xemacs с гнусом. Предыдущий раз пользовался чужими настройками,а сейчас захотел сам с нуля настроить. Пересобирать не хочется, BTW. -- Bye.Olli. http://olli.digger.org.ru PGP fingerprint: (expire 2005-02-09,1.0.6,2048) = 154B 5A59 DF51 6602 F589 2314 C77A 5292 6879 649A From turnbull@tux.org Wed Jan 22 02:38:03 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA23497 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 02:38:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA23493 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 02:38:03 -0500 Received: from ns1.telekom.ru (ns1.telekom.ru [194.190.195.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA23489 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 02:38:02 -0500 Received: from unix.home (h34.217.elnet.msk.ru [194.190.217.34]) by ns1.telekom.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h0M7c7au011817 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:38:07 +0300 Received: (qmail 501 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2003 07:39:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (alias@127.0.0.1) by localhost with QMTP; 22 Jan 2003 07:39:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 459 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Jan 2003 07:39:02 -0000 To: Olli Artemjev Cc: xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org Subject: Re: FAQ X-Attribution: VK Mail-Followup-To: Olli Artemjev , xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org From: deskpot@myrealbox.com (Vasily Korytov) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:38:59 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Olli Artemjev's message of "Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:26:51 +0300 (MSK)") Message-ID: <8765shocq4.fsf@unix.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090014 (Oort Gnus v0.14) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, i686-pc-linux) References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: users-ru --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Pj4+Pj4gIk9BIiA9PSBPbGxpIEFydGVtamV2IHdyaXRlczoNCg0KIE9BPiDwz8TLyc7UxSDQ zMnaIHVybMnLz9cgzsEgRkFRL0hPV1RPINDPIM7B09TSz8rLxS4g88nT1MXNwSBBTFQgTGlu dXggTWFzdGVyDQogT0E+IDIuMCAsIM7V1s7PINDP09TSz8nU2CB4ZW1hY3Mg0yDHztXTz80u IPDSxcTZxNXdycog0sHaINDPzNjaz9fBzNPRIN7V1snNyQ0KIE9BPiDOwdPU0s/Ky8HNySzB INPFyt7B0yDawcjP1MXMINPBzSDTIM7VzNEgzsHT1NLPydTYLiDwxdLF08/CydLB1NggzsUN CiBPQT4gyM/exdTT0SwgQlRXLg0KDQoxLiBDLWggaSDXIChYKT9FbWFjcw0KDQoyLiBodHRw Oi8vd3d3Lmdvb2dsZS5jb20vICjXINQu3i4gZ3JvdXBzIM7BINDSxcTNxdQgztjA08fS1dDQ DQogICBuZXdzOmNvbXAuZW1hY3MueGVtYWNzIMkgbmV3czpnbnUuZW1hY3MuZ251cykNCg0K LS0tVmFzDQo= --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+LkqWoPg1JPzYGEERAhvoAJ0U6GhRVueZOALriiWnjPwvjqvADACeNlqP M0zYAuZBY9D1MMHrBy9/L9w= =+g2k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From turnbull@tux.org Wed Jan 22 13:11:54 2003 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA13985 for xemacs-users-ru-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:11:54 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA13981 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:11:54 -0500 Received: from tut.by (mx04.tut.by [217.107.213.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13976 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:11:53 -0500 Received: from [194.158.221.170] (account oid HELO comp1.loc) by tut.by (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.2) with ESMTP id 13820902 for xemacs-users-ru@xemacs.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:16:39 +0200 Received: from oleg by comp1.loc with local (masqmail 0.2.18) id 18bPIB-0Zg-00 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:08:03 +0200 To: Olli Artemjev Subject: Re: FAQ From: Oleg Demidovich Organization: In Gnus we trust X-Comment-To: Olli Artemjev Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:08:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Olli Artemjev's message of "Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:26:51 +0300 (MSK)") Message-ID: <871y35dpmk.fsf@comp1.loc> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090014 XEmacs/21.4 (Native Windows TTY Support) References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: users-ru >>>>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:26:51 +0300 (MSK) "OA" == Olli Artemjev wrote: OA> Подкинте плиз urlиков на FAQ/HOWTO по настройке. Система ALT Linux Master OA> 2.0 , нужно построить xemacs с гнусом. Предыдущий раз пользовался чужими OA> настройками,а сейчас захотел сам с нуля настроить. Пересобирать не OA> хочется, BTW. http://dotemacs.de/articles.html http://emacswiki.org/ -- WBR, Oleg.