From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 1 03:35:39 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA18ZBv25694; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:35:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA18YE025379 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:34:14 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA18YCg25365 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:34:12 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA18YBv25359; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:34:12 -0500 Received: from p50830fa0.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.15.160] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AFrCy-00027q-3H; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:34:08 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AFrF7-000MT0-Fj; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:36:21 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages in Pre-Release 20031031 References: From: Norbert Koch Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:31:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Sat, 01 Nov 2003 13:12:43 +1000") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > All went fine here with my hybrid 21.4.14. Great, thanks for testing. > Set the download site; `M-x package-get-update-all RET'; 5 minutes > later restart XEmacs! That's fast. > _*BUT*_... Latin-Unity is broke. :-( It is missing > `latin-unity-tables.el'. Uh-oh. Stephen, is that a known issue? norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 1 07:54:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA1Cs1v09018; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:54:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA1Crbr08946 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:53:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA1Cra208936 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:53:36 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA1CrZv08928; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:53:35 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AFvG1-0005bt-00; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:53:33 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages in Pre-Release 20031031 References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:53:33 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:31:23 +0100") Message-ID: <87oevww8qa.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "viteno" == Norbert Koch writes: >> _*BUT*_... Latin-Unity is broke. :-( It is missing >> `latin-unity-tables.el'. viteno> Uh-oh. Stephen, is that a known issue? No. It's undoubtedly due to Ben cleaning up the packages system, see his patches around 2003-03-09. I assumed his patches were working since nobody complained. Take latin-unity out of prereleases and I'll try to get to it soon. It has other known breakage anyway. I can't really promise a deadline, unfortunately, as my ISP is being flakier than usual. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 1 08:12:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA1DCAv13232; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:12:10 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA1DBsc13161 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:11:54 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA1DBjn13135 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:11:45 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA1DBev13112; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:11:41 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AFvXX-0005j1-00; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 22:11:39 +0900 To: Ville Skyttä Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Missing fontsets, Xaw, UTF8 References: <200310261328.12850.ombatres@ya.com> <87fzhfike6.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1067628150.20763.171.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> <200310312058.h9VKwNr5026927@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <1067634946.20763.183.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 22:11:39 +0900 In-Reply-To: <1067634946.20763.183.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> (Ville Skytt's message of "Fri, 31 Oct 2003 23:15:47 +0200") Message-ID: <87k76kw7w4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Ville" == Ville Skytt writes: >> If we're going to patch this, let's either not be wildcarding >> it quite so much, or add some code to tell us why there's a >> problem (see the 21.5 input-method-xlib.c code for an example) Ville> Yep, a real fix would of course be very welcome. Don't hold your breath, it's an XFree86 bug (IMHO). What's happening is that XFree86 apparently deals with a "utf-8" character set, but doesn't know what "ISO 10646-1" is. I don't understand how an organization where Markus Kuhn regularly posts to its I18N list can get I18N so wrong, but they do. :-( Ville's patch isn't actually as bad as it looks because what actually happens (in theory, remember we're talking XFree86 I18N here) is that each charset used by the locale is matched against each XLFD. So something like -adobe-courier-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*, (more stuff) actually will start by collecting as many Latin-* Adobe Courier fonts as are relevant to the locale (which for UTF-8 is all of them, even if it's actually en_US.utf8, how broken do you want it, we can give it to you ;-), then go on to handle (more stuff) in the same way for any desired charsets not yet added to the X Font Set. Still, it's really preferable to have the users, not us and not X, making decisions about what fonts are (a) common (last ditch resort) and (b) good-looking and common enough to deserve a try in the defaults. The best way to suppress the warning is change LANG to something other than *.utf8. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 1 08:18:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA1DI1v15417; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:18:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA1DHub15387 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:17:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA1DHti15366 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:17:55 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA1DHtv15362 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:17:55 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AFvdZ-0005jh-00; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 22:17:53 +0900 To: Alain Knaff Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.13] Copy paste broken References: <200310312156.h9VLuGP9010159@hitchhiker.hitchhiker.org.lu> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 22:17:53 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200310312156.h9VLuGP9010159@hitchhiker.hitchhiker.org.lu> (Alain Knaff's message of "Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:56:16 +0100") Message-ID: <87fzh8w7lq.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Alain" == Alain Knaff writes: Alain> Since I upgraded to SuSE 9.0, copy-pasting to emacs is Alain> broken. Known XFree86 bug. They are deliberately violating their own edition of the X Compound Text standard, as far as I know the non-conforming practice is nowhere documented, and they are advising others to violate the standard in the same way. Alain> Is there a way to turn this off? No, but there's a workaround you can search for (look for threads that mention "extended segments") in the XEmacs beta archives. I'll be adding the workaround to the latin-unity package in the near future. Alain> On my Redhat box at work, it is also acting funny, mostly Alain> when opening files containing accented characters. Which means what? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 1 18:53:58 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA1Nr1v09624; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:53:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA1NqMg09395 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:52:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA1NqKH09379 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:52:20 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA1NqJv09367 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:52:20 -0500 Received: from pd9518bb8.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.139.184] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AG5XW-000OET-B6 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:52:18 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AG5Zg-000D2z-AX for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:54:32 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages in Pre-Release 20031102 From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== ispell-1.26-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.3 Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: ================================================== Sun-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver ada-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.27 apel-1.27-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 10.2 bbdb-1.24-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.34 build-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.02 c-support-1.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver calc-1.24-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.02fX3 calendar-1.22-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver cc-mode-1.41-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 5.30.7 clearcase-1.08-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver cookie-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver crisp-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.34 debug-1.17-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver dired-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 7.11 docbookide-0.07-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 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author-version: No-Upstream-Ver games-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.04 general-docs-1.01-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver gnats-1.16-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.101 gnus-1.73-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 5.10.2 haskell-mode-1.06-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.44 hm--html-menus-1.23-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 5.9 hyperbole-1.13-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.18 ibuffer-1.09-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver idlwave-1.31-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 5.1 igrep-1.12-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.95 ilisp-1.33-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 5.12.0 jde-1.46-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.3.2 latin-unity-1.08-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.08 leim-1.22-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver locale-1.21-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver lookup-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.0 mail-lib-1.63-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver mailcrypt-2.13-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.5.8 mew-1.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.94.2 mh-e-1.27-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 7.4.2 mine-1.16-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.9 misc-games-1.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver mmm-mode-1.01-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 0.4.7 mule-base-1.44-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver mule-ucs-1.05-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 0.84 net-utils-1.33-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver ocaml-0.05-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.06 oo-browser-1.04-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.08 os-utils-1.34-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver pc-1.26-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver pcl-cvs-1.65-pkg.tar.gz author-version: R-2_9_9 pcomplete-1.03-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.1.6 perl-modes-1.05-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver pgg-1.04-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 0.1 prog-modes-1.91-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver ps-print-1.09-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 6.5.6 psgml-dtds-1.03-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver python-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver reftex-1.33-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.21 riece-1.12-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 0.1.5 rmail-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver ruby-modes-1.02-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.6.8 sasl-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.14.4 scheme-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver semantic-1.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.4.2 sgml-1.10-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver sh-script-1.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.0e sieve-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver slider-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 0.3x1 sml-mode-0.10-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.9.5 sounds-au-1.12-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver sounds-wav-1.12-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver speedbar-1.27-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 0.14beta4 strokes-1.10-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver supercite-1.20-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.55x3 texinfo-1.25-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver text-modes-1.70-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver textools-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver time-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.17 tm-1.37-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver tooltalk-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver tpu-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.2X vc-1.38-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver vc-cc-1.22-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver vhdl-1.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.31.20 view-process-1.13-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.4 viper-1.37-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.09 vm-7.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 7.17 w3-1.29-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.0pre47 x-symbol-1.07-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.5.1 xemacs-base-1.82-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver xemacs-devel-1.59-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 21.4 xemacs-devel-1.60-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver xslide-1.09-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 0.2.2 zenirc-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.112 Detailed Changes: ================ ispell-1.26 - ----------- 2003-11-02 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.26 released. 2003-11-01 Ville Skyttä * Makefile (AUTHOR_VERSION): This is 3.3. Installing These: ================ Manually: - -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): - ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): - ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. norbert - XEmacs Package Release Manager. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/pEesgu3ywdHdhM0RAjEgAKCEiQD7NB3dcfycwbOlRQIRBzO4CwCglKRM bbtcx/mWgPlBNKRj1S4ndO8= =wpCI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 00:34:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA25Y2v06890; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:34:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA25XqI04417 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:33:52 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA25XbQ00548 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:33:37 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA25XYv32082; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:33:34 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGArg-0008Ip-00; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:33:28 +0900 To: Mats Lidell Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.5-b16] Core dump References: <87n0blfm12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:33:27 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Mats Lidell's message of "Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:15:17 +0100") Message-ID: <877k2jwd08.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Mats" == Mats Lidell writes: >>>>> Stephen wrote: Stephen> It might be the "Lisp not properly wrapped in redisplay" Stephen> bug, but that usually actually says so. Mats> So when it is that bug there is no need to report? Yes and no. Yes, there's no absolute need, because it's a big enough bug that eventually we'll have to fix it. No, because it's not yet embarrassing enough that somebody has actually gone and fixed it! A little embarrassment might help get it fixed. In our defense, the only person who really knows that stuff well is Ben, and he just resurfaced after a long vacation/taking care of day business period. Mats> ... and what can be done to solve it? I don't think there are any workarounds, it's deep in the C code somewhere. Hopefully Ben will get to it soon. Otherwise, Jerry and probably Mike seem to know a little about it, and we can start twisting arms.... -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 00:53:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA25r1v19722; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:53:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA25qAM19604 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:52:10 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA25pvD19566 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:51:57 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA25ptv19559 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:51:55 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGB9P-0008Js-00; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:51:47 +0900 To: Scott Blachowicz Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:51:47 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> (Scott Blachowicz's message of "Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:18:55 -0800") Message-ID: <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Blachowicz writes: Scott> I sometimes run it in a tty (well...putty window on an XP Scott> box ssh'd into a Linux box, with no X display). [...] It Scott> tries to take over my shell-mode buffer as a tty and run an Scott> xemacs within it (presumably not a separate xemacs process, Scott> but my existing xemacs process thinking that my shell-mode Scott> buffer is a tty that it has to operate within). That's exactly what it is supposed to do. It looks for a GUI display to connect to, there isn't one (that accepts connections), so it tries to use gnuclient's controlling TTY. XEmacs makes up for a lot of the design flaws in Windows, but working around this one would require rootkitting your Windows box, and we aren't script kiddies. Scott> Any suggestions on getting this to work? fdisk comes to mind, then install an open OS with a windowing system that can accept connections from the network. :-) A more palatable alternative might be to run XEmacs locally on the Windows box and use Tramp to remote access files on the Linux box. However, Windows XP is not a properly supported platform; apparently programming techniques that work for other Windows OSes don't work there, and we've had a rash of bug reports which AFAIK have not been addressed. A third possibility would be to install an X server. Scott> (like it used to with xemacs 21.1.8, and other versions Scott> I've used) Not on a Windows XP display, or any Windows display, it didn't. Scott> Or should it be filed somewhere as a bug? Nope. Unless you consider the single-user design of Windows a bug that could be usefully reported to Microsoft. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 01:09:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2691v22915; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:09:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA268bU22839 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:08:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA268ZQ22825 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:08:35 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA268Wv22809 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 01:08:33 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGBPX-0008Qs-00; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 15:08:27 +0900 To: Oscar Martín Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs don't start References: <200310261328.12850.ombatres@ya.com> <87fzhfike6.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200311012200.50004.ombatres@ya.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 15:08:27 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200311012200.50004.ombatres@ya.com> (Oscar Martín's message of "Sat, 1 Nov 2003 22:00:49 +0100") Message-ID: <87u15nuwtg.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Please don't redirect mail from the list to a personal address. Reproducing the whole post for the benefit of xemacs-beta. Oscar> Sorry, I'm a newbie. I hope that's OK. Sure. Enjoy it; it won't last long. ;-) XEmacs 21.4.6 is quite old, and bugs with backtraces similar to the one you sent have been fixed. I recommend you upgrade to the most recent version (Debian definitely has 21.4.14 or 21.4.13) available. Oscar> Thak you again. Oscar> Oscar -------------------------------------- Core was generated by `xemacs'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7... (no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)... done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpng.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)... done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62...(no debugging symbols found)... done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. 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Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/common/xomGeneric.so.2 #0 0x403cc781 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) where #0 0x403cc781 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x080a7709 in fatal_error_signal () #2 0x403cc6b8 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0x0819208a in xaw_create_label () #4 0x0819213f in xaw_create_label () #5 0x4014c3fb in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #6 0x4014c8da in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #7 0x4014cda5 in _XtCreateWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #8 0x4014ce19 in XtCreateWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #9 0x08194969 in XawGaugeGetValue () #10 0x0818d35a in lw_modify_all_widgets () #11 0x0818c93b in replace_widget_value_tree () #12 0x0818d433 in lw_make_widget () #13 0x0818d4a4 in lw_create_widget () #14 0x080bf28b in specifier_vars_of_toolbar () #15 0x080bf30d in x_initialize_frame_menubar () #16 0x0817436b in x_wm_set_variable_size () #17 0x08174661 in x_wm_set_variable_size () #18 0x080febde in Fmake_frame () #19 0x080ade5a in Ffuncall () #20 0x0808c0d7 in funcall_compiled_function () #21 0x0808bddf in funcall_compiled_function () #22 0x080adf51 in Ffuncall () ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #23 0x0808c0d7 in funcall_compiled_function () #24 0x0808bddf in funcall_compiled_function () #25 0x080adf51 in Ffuncall () #26 0x0808c0d7 in funcall_compiled_function () #27 0x0808bddf in funcall_compiled_function () #28 0x080adb32 in Feval () #29 0x080ab8e6 in condition_case_1 () #30 0x08095347 in Freally_early_error_handler () #31 0x080ab5bc in internal_catch () #32 0x08095422 in initial_command_loop () #33 0x080a8603 in xemacs_21_4_6_i386_debian_linux () #34 0x080a8d72 in main () #35 0x403bc14f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 06:34:14 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2BY1v04809; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:34:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2BXwi04784 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:33:58 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2BXiU04732 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:33:44 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2BXhv04728 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:33:43 -0500 Received: from pd9518de5.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.141.229] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AGGUI-000M90-Pk for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 12:33:43 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AGGWS-000BEo-W8 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 12:35:56 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: configure problems 21.5 From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi! System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE i386 Using the following script sh configure \ --prefix=${PREFIX} \ --site-includes=/usr/local/include \ --site-libraries=/usr/local/lib \ --with-scrollbars=athena \ --with-menubars=athena \ --with-toolbars=yes \ --with-dialogs=athena \ --with-athena=3d \ --with-xim=xlib \ --with-mule \ --pdump I can successfully configure and build the 21.4 series (using Xaw3d), but I get "Error: Could not find a suitable Athena library to build with." if I try to configure a 21.5 version. If I let the configure script decide what's to be used, I end with Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 07:08:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2C82v13815; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:08:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2C7sx13778 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:07:54 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2C7fY13740 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:07:41 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2C7ev13735 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 07:07:40 -0500 Received: from pd9518de5.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.141.229] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AGH1A-000PeH-0L for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 13:07:40 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AGH3J-000Bbq-Vw for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 13:09:53 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages in Pre-Release 20031031 References: <87oevww8qa.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:53:33 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Take latin-unity out of prereleases and I'll try to get to it soon. > It has other known breakage anyway. I've removed the package's tar.gz and reverted the package index to its old content WRT latin-unity. It should feel as if the package has not been updated at all (bar the fact that the next version is 1.09). norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 09:22:25 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2EMNv17390; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:22:23 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2ELrA17259 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:21:53 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2ELq317251 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:21:52 -0500 Received: from mta03ps.bigpond.com (mta03ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.157]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2ELnv17238 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:21:49 -0500 Received: from eicq.dnsalias.org ([144.135.25.94]) by mta03ps.email.bigpond.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with SMTP id <0HNQ004EXACAY6@mta03ps.email.bigpond.com> for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 00:16:58 +1000 (EST) Received: from cpe-138-130-240-182.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.182]) by psmam09.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_3_2c 162/3491266); Mon, 03 Nov 2003 00:16:58 +0000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hA2EGu0N002676; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 00:16:56 +1000 X-URL: Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 00:16:53 +1000 From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages in Pre-Release 20031031 In-reply-to: <87oevww8qa.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> To: XEmacs beta Mail-followup-to: XEmacs beta Message-id: Organization: The XEmacs Project MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="=-=-=" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY References: <87oevww8qa.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Keywords: sjt X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable |--=3D=3D> "SJT" =3D=3D Stephen J Turnbull writes: SJT> Take latin-unity out of prereleases and I'll try to get to it SJT> soon. It has other known breakage anyway. See the patch I just submitted to fix latin-unity's build. =2D-=20 |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj+lEdcACgkQHSfbS6lLMAPlPQCfdylwK072AUddAUHS+8jVweui MEUAoJzWsi8MUgyEbqLnNmbwPwdCkUfH =rE2I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 12:11:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2HB2v03611; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:11:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2HAoj03556 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:10:50 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2HAno03544 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:10:49 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2HAiv03529; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:10:44 -0500 Received: from sabami.seaslug.org (mail.dsab.rresearch.com[12.212.86.228]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2003110217104301600rh7khe>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:10:43 +0000 Received: by sabami.seaslug.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 124AD1E06; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:10:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:10:40 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? Message-ID: <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> Reply-To: Scott Blachowicz References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,WORK_AT_HOME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 02:51:47PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Blachowicz writes: > > Scott> I sometimes run it in a tty (well...putty window on an XP > Scott> box ssh'd into a Linux box, with no X display). [...] It > Scott> tries to take over my shell-mode buffer as a tty and run an > Scott> xemacs within it (presumably not a separate xemacs process, > Scott> but my existing xemacs process thinking that my shell-mode > Scott> buffer is a tty that it has to operate within). > > That's exactly what it is supposed to do. It looks for a GUI display > to connect to, there isn't one (that accepts connections), so it tries > to use gnuclient's controlling TTY. XEmacs makes up for a lot of the > design flaws in Windows, but working around this one would require > rootkitting your Windows box, and we aren't script kiddies. This has nothing to do with Windoze - it's because I don't have a GUI display to connect to and because this used to work better in previous xemacs releases. > Scott> Any suggestions on getting this to work? > > fdisk comes to mind, then install an open OS with a windowing system > that can accept connections from the network. :-) Yeah, yeah...that's not really a feasible solution (much as I'd like to :))... > A more palatable alternative might be to run XEmacs locally on the > Windows box and use Tramp to remote access files on the Linux box. > However, Windows XP is not a properly supported platform; apparently > programming techniques that work for other Windows OSes don't work > there, and we've had a rash of bug reports which AFAIK have not been > addressed. That doesn't help...the problem is that when I run 'gnuclient' it doesn't just attach to my existing xemacs and get new buffers, it tries to display those buffers on the tty being run by my shell-mode. > A third possibility would be to install an X server. Yes - that would help (by masking the real problem :)). > Scott> (like it used to with xemacs 21.1.8, and other versions > Scott> I've used) > > Not on a Windows XP display, or any Windows display, it didn't. I think I'm not explaining my problem well then...let's try again... I believe that the type of OS reading my keyboard is irrelevant here... 1) I ssh into a Linux box 2) run 'xemacs -q' 3) Within xeamcs, do `M-x gnuserv-start' 4) Within xemacs, do `M-x shell' 5) Within the *shell* buffer, type 'gnuclient foobar' At this point, if I have a usable $DISPLAY setting, I would get a new frame. If I do NOT have a usable $DISPLAY, it complains about: IO Error: Terminal type undefined (or can't access database?), "emacs" in my minibuffer line from which I infer that it's trying to use the $TERM setting to decide if it can run an xemacs buffer inside of it instead of getting the xemacs to new buffer in the term it is already running within. If I change my TERM setting in the shell in the shell-mode buffer to something like "xterm" , it confirms that by showing me lots of nice escape sequences in my shell-mode buffer. Hmmm...in doing that repro case, I notice that xemacs 21.1.8 gives a similar error, so that's not the right repro case. What I was actually doing before was...I had an xemacs running against my X server at work. From home, I ssh into my work system (no X11 forwarding) and do gnuclient foo at which point, my work xemacs (and gnuserv) responds by giving me a 'foo' buffer within the tty of my ssh session. Then I do `C-x b *shell* RET' to get to my shell buffer and continue on my merry way. At some point, I do a command in my shell buffer that ends up running gnuclient. With xemacs 21.1.8 (the pre-existing version on my work system), it wouldn't complain, but it also wouldn't show me the buffer right away - I would have to use `C-x b' to get to it, but it was there (so not really working right, but usable). With xemacs 21.5b16, it prevented me from getting that far. At this point (being at home), I'm having trouble getting things back into a state where I can reproduce this...so that's just my memory for now. :) Anyways...it'd be nice if the xemacs could track the tty that was in use by its own shell buffers to be able to detect gnuclient runs from within those shells and handle them. Scott From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 12:32:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2HW1v10398; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:32:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2HVZg10273 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:31:35 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2HVNJ10213 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:31:23 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA2HVMv10194 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:31:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 8938 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2003 18:31:21 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (213.191.128.12) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 2 Nov 2003 18:31:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 22764 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2003 18:31:20 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 2 Nov 2003 18:31:20 +0100 To: Scott Blachowicz Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:31:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> (Scott Blachowicz's message of "Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:10:40 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Scott Blachowicz writes: > 1) I ssh into a Linux box > 2) run 'xemacs -q' > 3) Within xeamcs, do `M-x gnuserv-start' > 4) Within xemacs, do `M-x shell' > 5) Within the *shell* buffer, type 'gnuclient foobar' > > At this point, if I have a usable $DISPLAY setting, I would get a new > frame. If I do NOT have a usable $DISPLAY, it complains about: Byt *why* are you trying to run terminal-based GNU client under an Emacs shell? Are you aware that Emacs shell doesn't provide a terminal emulation? If you wish to run XEmacs under itself, use `M-x term' instead of `M-x shell', and it will probably work. If you want to edit a file from the shell buffer, simply use `C-x C-f'! > Anyways...it'd be nice if the xemacs could track the tty that was in > use by its own shell buffers to be able to detect gnuclient runs > from within those shells and handle them. Hmm, so you'd like `gnuclient foo' in an inferior shell to tell the running XEmacs to load foo without bothering to set up a separate TTY. That might even be doable, but would require hacking the gnuclient source code as well as that of gnuserv. Good luck. :-) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 13:01:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2I12v20042; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:01:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2I0Bt19346 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:00:11 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2I0Ao19311 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:00:10 -0500 Received: from mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (mta8-svc.business.ntl.com [62.253.164.48]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2I04v19158; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:00:04 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.69.37]) by mta8-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031102180001.SEGG21010.mta8-svc.business.ntl.com@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:00:01 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hA2HweT01172; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:58:40 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16293.17872.398548.251947@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:58:40 +0000 To: Scott Blachowicz Cc: Hrvoje Niksic , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? In-Reply-To: References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Scott Blachowicz writes: > > > 1) I ssh into a Linux box > > 2) run 'xemacs -q' > > 3) Within xeamcs, do `M-x gnuserv-start' > > 4) Within xemacs, do `M-x shell' > > 5) Within the *shell* buffer, type 'gnuclient foobar' > > > > At this point, if I have a usable $DISPLAY setting, I would get a new > > frame. If I do NOT have a usable $DISPLAY, it complains about: > > Byt *why* are you trying to run terminal-based GNU client under an > Emacs shell? Are you aware that Emacs shell doesn't provide a > terminal emulation? If you wish to run XEmacs under itself, use `M-x > term' instead of `M-x shell', and it will probably work. > > If you want to edit a file from the shell buffer, simply use `C-x C-f'! > > > Anyways...it'd be nice if the xemacs could track the tty that was in > > use by its own shell buffers to be able to detect gnuclient runs > > from within those shells and handle them. > > Hmm, so you'd like `gnuclient foo' in an inferior shell to tell the > running XEmacs to load foo without bothering to set up a separate TTY. > That might even be doable, but would require hacking the gnuclient > source code as well as that of gnuserv. Good luck. :-) Scott: I think that you want this: (setq gnuserv-frame t) or this: M-x customize-variable RET gnuserv-frame RET C-h v gnuserv-frame: `gnuserv-frame' is a variable declared in Lisp. -- loaded from "gnuserv" Value: t Documentation: *The frame to be used to display all edited files. If nil, then a new frame is created for each file edited. If t, then the currently selected frame will be used. If a function, then this will be called with a symbol `x' or `tty' as the only argument, and its return value will be interpreted as above. -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 13:07:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2I71v21783; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:07:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2I6CE21556 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:06:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2I6Bv21546 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:06:11 -0500 Received: from brain.delphioutpost.com ([65.202.186.194]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA2I6Bv21540 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:06:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 15059 invoked by uid 1002); 2 Nov 2003 18:06:03 -0000 From: Jeff Mincy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16293.18315.727869.203537@brain.delphioutpost.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:06:03 -0500 To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: Scott Blachowicz , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? In-Reply-To: References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Sun, 02 Nov 2003, hniksic@xemacs.org wrote: > Scott Blachowicz writes: > >> 1) I ssh into a Linux box >> 2) run 'xemacs -q' >> 3) Within xeamcs, do `M-x gnuserv-start' >> 4) Within xemacs, do `M-x shell' >> 5) Within the *shell* buffer, type 'gnuclient foobar' >> >> At this point, if I have a usable $DISPLAY setting, I would get a new >> frame. If I do NOT have a usable $DISPLAY, it complains about: If you have a usable DISPLAY, then ssh X11 forwarding is working. How are you doing the different ssh commands. If you don't have a usable DISPLAY don't you have to run xemacs -nw? > Byt *why* are you trying to run terminal-based GNU client under an > Emacs shell? Are you aware that Emacs shell doesn't provide a > terminal emulation? If you wish to run XEmacs under itself, use `M-x > term' instead of `M-x shell', and it will probably work. > > If you want to edit a file from the shell buffer, simply use `C-x C-f'! C-x C-f would work for 'gnuclient ' command from the *shell* buffer. There are various commands that invoke $EDITOR, like crontab -e, which should work if you've done export EDITOR=gnuclient, and have gnuserv running. -jeff From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 14:13:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2JD7v09545; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:13:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2JCmv09466 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:12:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2JClE09459 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:12:47 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA2JClv09445 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:12:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 18523 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2003 20:12:45 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.11) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 2 Nov 2003 20:12:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 23066 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2003 20:12:44 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 2 Nov 2003 20:12:44 +0100 To: Glynn Clements Cc: Scott Blachowicz , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.17872.398548.251947@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:13:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <16293.17872.398548.251947@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> (Glynn Clements's message of "Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:58:40 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Glynn Clements writes: > Scott: I think that you want this: > > (setq gnuserv-frame t) Yes, that's it. For some reason I thought that gnuclient would still force creation of its own frame when DISPLAY is not set, but the code is in fact smarter than I gave it credit for. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 14:15:06 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2JF1v10068; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:15:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2JEvg09996 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:14:57 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2JEue09986 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:14:56 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA2JEtv09979 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:14:55 -0500 Received: (qmail 21184 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2003 20:14:53 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.11) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 2 Nov 2003 20:14:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 24152 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2003 20:14:53 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 2 Nov 2003 20:14:53 +0100 To: Jeff Mincy Cc: Scott Blachowicz , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.18315.727869.203537@brain.delphioutpost.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:15:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <16293.18315.727869.203537@brain.delphioutpost.com> (Jeff Mincy's message of "Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:06:03 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jeff Mincy writes: >> Byt *why* are you trying to run terminal-based GNU client under an >> Emacs shell? Are you aware that Emacs shell doesn't provide a >> terminal emulation? If you wish to run XEmacs under itself, use >> `M-x term' instead of `M-x shell', and it will probably work. >> >> If you want to edit a file from the shell buffer, simply use `C-x C-f'! > > C-x C-f would work for 'gnuclient ' command from > the *shell* buffer. There are various commands that invoke $EDITOR, > like crontab -e, which should work if you've done export > EDITOR=gnuclient, and have gnuserv running. Good point. Maybe gnuclient should detect that it's running under an inferior XEmacs shell and not try to attach to a TTY. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 14:45:06 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2Jj1v18703; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:45:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2JiXv18540 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:44:33 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2JiVw18530 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:44:31 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2JiSv18505 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:44:28 -0500 Received: from sabami.seaslug.org (mail.dsab.rresearch.com[12.212.86.228]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2003110219442701400cbs13e>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:44:27 +0000 Received: by sabami.seaslug.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EDBC01E10; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:44:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:44:21 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? Message-ID: <20031102194421.GA74262@sabami.seaslug.org> Reply-To: Scott Blachowicz References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.18315.727869.203537@brain.delphioutpost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 08:15:25PM +0100, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Jeff Mincy writes: > > >> Byt *why* are you trying to run terminal-based GNU client under an > >> Emacs shell? Are you aware that Emacs shell doesn't provide a > >> terminal emulation? If you wish to run XEmacs under itself, use > >> `M-x term' instead of `M-x shell', and it will probably work. I've tried that, but it's really slow (especially when I'm ssh'ing over an analog modem connection as I sometimes do). > >> If you want to edit a file from the shell buffer, simply use `C-x C-f'! > > > > C-x C-f would work for 'gnuclient ' command from > > the *shell* buffer. There are various commands that invoke $EDITOR, > > like crontab -e, which should work if you've done export > > EDITOR=gnuclient, and have gnuserv running. > > Good point. Maybe gnuclient should detect that it's running under an > inferior XEmacs shell and not try to attach to a TTY. And that's basically the situation I run into...crontab -e is something I do occasionally, but I also do Perforce and/or CVS commands in that shell that use $EDITOR to gather comments. Yes, they have xemacs integrations, so I can generally get by using the appropriate elisp functionality, but my fingers don't always remember that. Scott From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 14:50:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2Jo2v20815; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:50:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2JnMt20623 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:49:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2JnLP20601 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:49:21 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2JnKv20592 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:49:20 -0500 Received: from sabami.seaslug.org (mail.dsab.rresearch.com[12.212.86.228]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2003110219492001400cc8ike>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:49:20 +0000 Received: by sabami.seaslug.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F11121E06; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:49:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:49:19 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? Message-ID: <20031102194919.GB74262@sabami.seaslug.org> Reply-To: Scott Blachowicz References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.18315.727869.203537@brain.delphioutpost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16293.18315.727869.203537@brain.delphioutpost.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 01:06:03PM -0500, Jeff Mincy wrote: > On Sun, 02 Nov 2003, hniksic@xemacs.org wrote: > > > Scott Blachowicz writes: > > > >> 1) I ssh into a Linux box > >> 2) run 'xemacs -q' > >> 3) Within xeamcs, do `M-x gnuserv-start' > >> 4) Within xemacs, do `M-x shell' > >> 5) Within the *shell* buffer, type 'gnuclient foobar' > >> > >> At this point, if I have a usable $DISPLAY setting, I would get a new > >> frame. If I do NOT have a usable $DISPLAY, it complains about: > > If you have a usable DISPLAY, then ssh X11 forwarding is working. > How are you doing the different ssh commands. If you don't have a > usable DISPLAY don't you have to run xemacs -nw? My "usable DISPLAY" case is when I'm sitting in front of my work box, using its X display. My "unusable DISPLAY" case is when I'm dialed up from home over a modem connection and the system I'm on doesn't have an X display. So, I generally leave an xemacs running on my work box with its gnuserv running. Then, I can dial up from home (from a system that has no X display) and do 'gnuclient foo' to connect to the xemacs running on my desktop at work and have it use the tty from my ssh session. It's a really convenient thing to be able to do. Scott From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 14:55:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2Jt2v22128; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:55:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2Jsae22009 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:54:36 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2JsZF21999 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:54:35 -0500 Received: from rent.teradyne.com (rent.teradyne.com [198.51.251.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2JsZv21995; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:54:35 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by rent.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28506; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA27601; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com ([131.101.84.228]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA05355; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:54:25 +0100 (MET) To: james@unlambda.com (James A. Crippen) Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: CVS nightly snapshots? X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 20:54:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: (James A. Crippen's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:32:08 -0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "James" == James A Crippen writes: James> When are CVS nightly snapshots going to come back to life? The last James> one seems to have been done in April. Hi James, CVS snapshots are available at http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Download/CVS-snapshots/ now. I'm not sure we have announced this appropriately. I will check when I'm back next week. Best regards, Adrian James> 'james James> -- James> James A. Crippen Lambda Unlimited James> 61.2204N, -149.8964W Recursion 'R' Us James> Anchorage, Alaska, USA, Earth Y = \f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 2 17:06:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2M61v27769; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:06:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2M5H027558 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:05:17 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA2M5Gj27550 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:05:16 -0500 Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA2M5Bv27523 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:05:11 -0500 Received: from engmail2sun.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.134.19]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA2M5AxA026086 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pumbaa.eng.sun.com (pumbaa.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.89.168]) by engmail2sun.Eng.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id hA2M5Aru017823; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pumbaa.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pumbaa.eng.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA2M5AvF863614; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by pumbaa.eng.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/Submit) id hA2M5A8V863613; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:05:10 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: pumbaa.eng.sun.com: simmonmt set sender to simmonmt@eng.sun.com using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.5-b16] XEmacs 21.5 (and 21.4.14) assertion failure in insdel.c References: X-Face: %&o"uzz{MF+m`-UdwIgi{)#6b&xg,`)*1XK8S}sBj%PF]t>dPiYe5pNS{@%ju[rxPJv |U'R`Xj^1|I|s`,g4r/!HPiu2jX;T1<=~X5DoJVdaK&SV`#j9`#52ZZu<>+NBvBW4fJ jf,SiM[ Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:05:10 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Matt Simmons's message of "Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:48:33 -0800") Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, sparc-sun-solaris2.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Simmons writes: Matt> XEmacs 21.5.16 will explode regularly when paging (C-v) Matt> through buffers, with the following assertion failure: Matt> Fatal error: assertion failed, file insdel.c, line 146, Matt> bytpos >= BYTE_BUF_BEGV (buf) && bytpos <= BYTE_BUF_ZV (buf) But wait! It gets better! (scroll-up 1) works fine, but (scroll-up n) for n > 1 sends you all the way to the end of the file. Oh, and did I mention that this happens only on the XEmacs I compiled for SPARC? It works correctly on Intel. This problem happens when I compile with cc: Sun C 5.5 Patch 112760-01 2003/05/18 It does *not* happen (i.e. scroll-up works properly) when I compile with cc: Sun WorkShop 6 update 1 C 5.2 2000/09/11 Sigh. I'll dig more. Matt -- Matt Simmons - simmonmt@eng.sun.com Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 03:03:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3826v23639; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:02:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA381Op23456 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:01:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA381MR23438 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:01:22 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA381Lv23421 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:01:21 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGZeH-0004UM-00; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:01:17 +0900 To: junq Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:01:17 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> (junq@ihubbell.com's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:19:00 -0800") Message-ID: <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "junq" == junq writes: junq> "itimer-0" 5 5 cperl-get-help-defe yes nil If this is done using the fsf-compat `with-timer' interface (timer.el), there is definitely a potential leak here. with-timer is not protected against nonlocal exits (signals and throws), and throw is the obvious way to "do something" rather than time out. >> Use C-u M-x (buffer-list) RET to insert the list of all live >> buffers junq> C-u M-x buffer-menu RET gave me Invalid function: (4) My bad, that should be C-u M-: (buffer-list) RET (the parentheses are required, you need to evaluate Lisp rather than issue a user command). junq> I might be able to compile and install into /usr/local; if junq> time's on my side this weekend. Well, whatever, and whenever. Your other message showing that other KDE apps leak memory suggests this could be hard to track. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 03:05:00 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA384xv24501; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:04:59 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3848L24246 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:04:08 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3847b24237 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:04:07 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3843v24225; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:04:03 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGZgv-0004a2-00; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:04:01 +0900 To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: "Ilya N. Golubev" , Subject: Re: efs dis-integration with mule References: <02553fa1791550-gin@mo.msk.ru> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:04:00 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:16:32 +0100") Message-ID: <87znfdubdb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> Could we fix this by having Hrvoje> `insert-file-contents-internal' bind Hrvoje> `coding-system-for-read' to the value of CODESYS if Hrvoje> non-nil CODESYS was provided? This should force the use Hrvoje> of the correct coding system in called functions. Assuming no handlers get triggered. This is a Morioka synch from GNU Emacs, IIRC, and I doubt he understood handlers. I think to get sanity here the whole API should be rethought. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 03:53:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA38r6v07180; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:53:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA38qVE07008 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:52:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA38qI006939 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:52:18 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA38qHv06932 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 03:52:17 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGaRY-0004fA-00; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:52:12 +0900 To: Michael Matthew Toomim Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] Dots left on screen when drawing extended characters References: <200310310459.h9V4x8G04748@baobab.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:52:12 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200310310459.h9V4x8G04748@baobab.CS.Berkeley.EDU> (Michael Matthew Toomim's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:59:08 -0800") Message-ID: <87brrtal6r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hA38qHv06932 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Matthew Toomim writes: Michael> When I scroll a window in xemacs containing the Michael> characters 'Ò', or 'Ó', little dots get left on the Michael> screen. (I'm not sure if those characters will make it Michael> through this email. Their integer values are 210 and Michael> 211.) Here's how to reproduce the bug: IIRC, the fonts are arguably broken. XEmacs computes the extent to clear by taking the max of the ascent and descent over the string to display. There is currently no real workaround for fonts that write outside of the bounding boxes they specify, although you should be able to force a full redisplay with C-l. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 06:34:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3BY2v01422; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:34:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3BXS601232 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:33:28 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3BXEq01174 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:33:14 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3BXBv01162; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:33:11 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA3BX2eO005689; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:33:03 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hA3BX0Ln005687; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:33:00 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: "Ilya N. Golubev" , Subject: Re: efs dis-integration with mule References: <02553fa1791550-gin@mo.msk.ru> <87znfdubdb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 12:33:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87znfdubdb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:04:00 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > I think to get sanity here the whole API should be rethought. We could also take a look at how the FSF handles it. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 09:36:16 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3Ea2v02120; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:36:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3EZBD01917 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:35:11 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3EZ8a01894 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:35:08 -0500 Received: from ohio.stageserver.net (ohio.stageserver.net [216.180.225.74]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3EZ5v01878; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:35:05 -0500 Received: from ip68-6-52-110.sb.sd.cox.net ([68.6.52.110] helo=localhost.localdomain) by ohio.stageserver.net with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.24) id 1AGfnK-0000p8-9y; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:35:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:35:09 -0800 From: junq To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak Message-Id: <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> In-Reply-To: <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: junq X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.5claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) User-Agent: Junq Mailer Ver. 20,097,432.312 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Mon__3_Nov_2003_06_35_09_-0800_=.6AhQaJ6dcebi27" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ohio.stageserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ihubbell.com X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart_Mon__3_Nov_2003_06_35_09_-0800_=.6AhQaJ6dcebi27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:01:17 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > >>>>> "junq" == junq writes: > > junq> "itimer-0" 5 5 cperl-get-help-defe yes nil > > If this is done using the fsf-compat `with-timer' interface (timer.el), > there is definitely a potential leak here. with-timer is not > protected against nonlocal exits (signals and throws), and throw is > the obvious way to "do something" rather than time out. This seems to support your contention. Another clue (no time to build xemacs), I started xemacs, took data samples before loading any files and after. In the attached chart, it's easy to see where I loaded a 200 line perl script, everything increases. So perhaps this is a cperl problem?? > > >> Use C-u M-x (buffer-list) RET to insert the list of all live > >> buffers > > junq> C-u M-x buffer-menu RET gave me Invalid function: (4) > > My bad, that should be C-u M-: (buffer-list) RET (the parentheses are > required, you need to evaluate Lisp rather than issue a user command). (# # # # # # # # # # # #) > > junq> I might be able to compile and install into /usr/local; if > junq> time's on my side this weekend. > > Well, whatever, and whenever. 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gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3Em4v06065; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:48:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3Elu706018 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:47:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3ElZc05908 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:47:35 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3ElYv05900 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:47:34 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGfzR-0005iP-00 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 23:47:33 +0900 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Q Re: [V PACKAGES (latin-unity)] Fix build. (generate latin-unity-tables.el) References: <877k2hakqu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 23:47:33 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Mon, 03 Nov 2003 23:07:13 +1000") Message-ID: <87brrtv796.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , QUERY Sorry to bug you again, but as long as you're interested enough to try to get it right, I'm gonna ask: >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> [...] # Experimental rule to build latin-unity-tables.el. -latin-unity-tables.el: latin-unity-vars.elc latin-unity-utils.elc - $(BOOT_XEMACS) -l latin-unity-utils -f latin-unity-dump-tables - @echo "*** You may see a few warnings about ISO 8859/3. ***" - @echo "*** This is OK; it doesn't use all code points. ***" +#latin-unity-tables.el: latin-unity-vars.elc latin-unity-utils.elc +# $(BOOT_XEMACS) -l latin-unity-utils -f latin-unity-dump-tables +# @echo "*** You may see a few warnings about ISO 8859/3. ***" +# @echo "*** This is OK; it doesn't use all code points. ***" Is this deletion necessary? It's definitely possible that people with >= 21.5.6 would want to rebuild the table, depending on their needs and possible changes in ISO 8859 -- I think Latin-10 is still pending, and maybe -7 and -8. These would be reflected in the Unicode Consortium tables, and eventually in our etc/unicode stuff. If it's necessary, how about a rule .PHONY: build-table build-table: latin-unity-vars.elc latin-unity-utils.elc $(BOOT_XEMACS) -l latin-unity-utils -f latin-unity-dump-tables @echo "*** You may see a few warnings about ISO 8859/3. ***" @echo "*** This is OK; it doesn't use all code points. ***" -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 10:48:18 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3Fm1v23554; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:48:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3FlOI23406 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:47:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3FlN223395 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:47:23 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3FlMv23378; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:47:22 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA3FlBeO005796; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:47:11 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hA3FlACA005794; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:47:10 +0100 To: junq Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:47:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> (junq@ihubbell.com's message of "Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:35:09 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , junq writes: > On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:01:17 +0900 > "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > >> >>>>> "junq" == junq writes: >> >> junq> "itimer-0" 5 5 cperl-get-help-defe yes nil >> >> If this is done using the fsf-compat `with-timer' interface >> (timer.el), there is definitely a potential leak here. with-timer >> is not protected against nonlocal exits (signals and throws), and >> throw is the obvious way to "do something" rather than time out. `with-timer' implements timeouts. cperl uses `run-with-idle-timer' to run cperl-get-help-defer. There seems to be no obvious leak in cperl-get-help-defer -- I examined the code and I tried running thousands of its iterations in a loop. Not a dent in XEmacs memory usage. Maybe the itimer callback running code is leaking? > Another clue (no time to build xemacs), I started xemacs, took data > samples before loading any files and after. In the attached chart, > it's easy to see where I loaded a 200 line perl script, everything > increases. So perhaps this is a cperl problem?? It might well be, but it's far from obvious where the problem lies. Does the leak occur if you start `xemacs -q', load a Perl script, and leave XEmacs for the night? From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 11:23:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3GN2v01290; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:23:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3GMrw01239 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:22:53 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3GMeB01190 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:22:40 -0500 Received: from ohio.stageserver.net (ohio.stageserver.net [216.180.225.74]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3GMav01178; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:22:36 -0500 Received: from ip68-6-52-110.sb.sd.cox.net ([68.6.52.110] helo=localhost.localdomain) by ohio.stageserver.net with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.24) id 1AGhTN-0002NU-Uv; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:22:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:22:41 -0800 From: junq To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak Message-Id: <20031103082241.66adee2a.junq@ihubbell.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> Organization: junq X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.5claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) User-Agent: Junq Mailer Ver. 20,097,432.312 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ohio.stageserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ihubbell.com X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:47:10 +0100 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > junq writes: > > > On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:01:17 +0900 > > "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > > >> >>>>> "junq" == junq writes: > >> > >> junq> "itimer-0" 5 5 cperl-get-help-defe yes nil > >> > >> If this is done using the fsf-compat `with-timer' interface > >> (timer.el), there is definitely a potential leak here. with-timer > >> is not protected against nonlocal exits (signals and throws), and > >> throw is the obvious way to "do something" rather than time out. > > `with-timer' implements timeouts. cperl uses `run-with-idle-timer' to > run cperl-get-help-defer. There seems to be no obvious leak in > cperl-get-help-defer -- I examined the code and I tried running > thousands of its iterations in a loop. Not a dent in XEmacs memory > usage. > > Maybe the itimer callback running code is leaking? > > > Another clue (no time to build xemacs), I started xemacs, took data > > samples before loading any files and after. In the attached chart, > > it's easy to see where I loaded a 200 line perl script, everything > > increases. So perhaps this is a cperl problem?? > > It might well be, but it's far from obvious where the problem lies. > > Does the leak occur if you start `xemacs -q', load a Perl script, and > leave XEmacs for the night? Don't know, but tonight I will do that and report my findings. > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 14:28:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3JS6v26170; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:28:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3JR5625983 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:27:05 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3JR4L25963 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:27:04 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA3JQxv25953 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:26:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 381 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2003 20:26:57 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (213.191.128.12) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 3 Nov 2003 20:26:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 7360 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2003 20:26:56 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 3 Nov 2003 20:26:56 +0100 To: junq Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103082241.66adee2a.junq@ihubbell.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:27:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031103082241.66adee2a.junq@ihubbell.com> (junq@ihubbell.com's message of "Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:22:41 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , junq writes: >> It might well be, but it's far from obvious where the problem lies. >> >> Does the leak occur if you start `xemacs -q', load a Perl script, >> and leave XEmacs for the night? > > Don't know, but tonight I will do that and report my findings. Please do. Independently of that, there is another thing you can do. Think of it this way: to the best of our knowledge, an idle timer hook is leaking memory. It might be either the problem with the hook or with the timer mechanism. To narrow down the problem, you could: 1. Run (while t (cperl-get-help-defer)) and monitor the XEmacs process for signs of leakage. If you don't detect leaking in several minutes, there is probably no leak in that area. 2. Run (run-with-idle-timer .1 t (lambda () nil)) and leave XEmacs for the night. See if you get the leaks. Do these with the configuration that normally leaks, i.e. *not* with `xemacs -q'. If you detect the leak in one (or both!) of these, we'll narrow down the search for the culprit. If you don't, it might mean that the problem lies either in interaction between the two or somewhere else altogether. I cannot detect a leak in 21.4.13 with either of the above methods. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 15:53:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3Kr1v19372; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:53:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3Kq3n19116 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:52:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3Kq1419106 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:52:01 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (h80ad25b7.async.vt.edu [128.173.37.183]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3Kpxv19096 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:51:59 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA3Kpwgv012321 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:51:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200311032051.hA3Kpwgv012321@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: More exec-shield issues.... From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-667335365P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:51:57 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-667335365P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Building xemacs hangswhen using -fpie: (in addition to exec-shield non-executable stuff, this adds "randomize location in memory" support) ./xemacs -nd -no-packages -batch -l /home/valdis/src/xemacs-21.5/src/../lisp/update-elc.el #0 0x080c1d4b in grow_specpdl (reserved=1) at eval.c:5723 #1 0x080c20d4 in record_unwind_protect (function=0, arg=0) at eval.c:5856 #2 0x080c2252 in record_unwind_protect_restoring_int (addr=0x81fe174, val=0) at eval.c:5937 #3 0x080c227e in internal_bind_int (addr=0x81fe174, newval=0) at eval.c:5950 #4 0x0808ffd3 in begin_gc_forbidden () at alloc.c:4335 #5 0x080b0b34 in emacs_vsprintf_string ( format=0x81c6460 "%s\nKilling some buffers may delay running out of memory.\nHowever, certainly by the time you receive the 95%% warning,\nyou should clean up, kill this Emacs, and start a new one.", vargs=0xbff16858 " \215\036\b¬º\037\b|hñ¿¨i\e\b \215\036\b\225¢\025") at doprnt.c:822 #6 0x080c2ba8 in warn_when_safe (class_=0, level=0, fmt=0x81c6460 "%s\nKilling some buffers may delay running out of memory.\nHowever, certainly by the time you receive the 95%% warning,\nyou should clean up, kill this Emacs, and start a new one.") at eval.c:6402 #7 0x0808c660 in malloc_warning (str=0x81e8da0 "Warning: past 75% of memory limit") at alloc.c:266 #8 0x081b69a8 in check_memory_limits () at vm-limit.c:105 #9 0x00430344 in sYSMALLOc () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 #10 0x0042d10d in malloc () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 #11 0x0808c72a in xmalloc (size=1) at alloc.c:331 #12 0x0808df84 in allocate_string_chars_struct (string_it_goes_with=0, fullsize=24) at alloc.c:2076 #13 0x0808e0e2 in make_uninit_string (length=17) at alloc.c:2130 #14 0x0808e724 in make_string (contents=0x81cffe3 "extent-mouse-face", length=17) at alloc.c:2428 #15 0x08177280 in intern_int (str=0x81cffe3 "extent-mouse-face") at symbols.c:191 #16 0x0817729b in intern (str=0x81cffe3 "extent-mouse-face") at symbols.c:197 #17 0x0817a2ec in defsubr (subr=0x81f0128) at symbols.c:3507 #18 0x080e1536 in syms_of_extents () at extents.c:7339 #19 0x080b854c in xemacs_21_5_b16_i686_pc_linux (argc=6, argv=0xbff16ac4, envp=0xbff16ae0, restart=0) at emacs.c:1268 #20 0x080b9578 in main (argc=0, argv=0x0, envp=0x0) at emacs.c:2865 #21 0x003d3750 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 #22 0x0808aed1 in _start () Immediate cause of the problem: while (specpdl_size < size_needed) { specpdl_size *= 2; if (specpdl_size > max_specpdl_size) specpdl_size = max_specpdl_size; } We go into here with specpdl_size=0 and size_needed=1. Infloop. Not sure yet why -fpie causes this state of affairs. Probably has to do with the check in vm-limit.c:check_memory_limits - I suspect that the calculation of 'cp' and 'data_size' is getting b0rked when we're using address space randomization. --==_Exmh_-667335365P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/pr/tcC3lWbTT17ARAv+0AKD3v6lfYEVZzG4PLzvpBxbKRpqcCQCeIAc6 IqTrnI5SR4cGk7taLJ3oZDQ= =V1KW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-667335365P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 16:17:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3LH1v26728; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:17:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3LGRE26609 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:16:27 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3LGQr26589 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:16:26 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (h80ad25b7.async.vt.edu [128.173.37.183]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3LGPv26581 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:16:25 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA3LGMgv023357 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 16:16:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200311032116.hA3LGMgv023357@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: More exec-shield issues.... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:51:57 EST." <200311032051.hA3Kpwgv012321@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <200311032051.hA3Kpwgv012321@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-651104261P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:16:22 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-651104261P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:51:57 EST, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu said: > Building xemacs hangswhen using -fpie: (in addition to exec-shield > non-executable stuff, this adds "randomize location in memory" support) > Not sure yet why -fpie causes this state of affairs. Probably has > to do with the check in vm-limit.c:check_memory_limits - I suspect > that the calculation of 'cp' and 'data_size' is getting b0rked when > we're using address space randomization. Bingo. I added a printf to check_memory_limits(): without -pie: ./xemacs -nd -no-packages -batch -l /home/valdis/src/xemacs-21.5/src/../lisp/update-elc.el cp=a163000 data_space_start=81d4394 data_size=1f8ec6c cp=a184000 data_space_start=81d4394 data_size=1fafc6c cp=a1a5000 data_space_start=81d4394 data_size=1fd0c6c With it: ./xemacs -nd -no-packages -batch -l /home/valdis/src/xemacs-21.5/src/../lisp/update-elc.el cp=89c0000 data_space_start=443c50 data_size=857c3b0 ./xemacs -nd -no-packages -batch -l /home/valdis/src/xemacs-21.5/src/../lisp/update-elc.el cp=8c74000 data_space_start=ab2c50 data_size=81c13b0 So the problem is that data_space_start has become *very* migratory. Ideas? --==_Exmh_-651104261P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/psWlcC3lWbTT17ARAtJLAKDfjbzaoqaPg/b2q2iqZkQi5MqHvgCeOIHA Z0VYwSjSQOqhwTPsBoIrSJE= =jMU9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-651104261P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 17:11:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3MB2v10616; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:11:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3MA2310342 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:10:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3MA1U10322 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:10:01 -0500 Received: from mta02ps.bigpond.com (mta02ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.156]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3M9vv10302 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:09:58 -0500 Received: from eicq.dnsalias.org ([144.135.25.81]) by mta02ps.email.bigpond.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with SMTP id <0HNS00COCQLBP2@mta02ps.email.bigpond.com> for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:03:12 +1000 (EST) Received: from cpe-138-130-240-182.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.182]) by psmam05bpa.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_3_2d 107/13761919); Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:03:11 +0000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hA3M38ZT003414; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:03:08 +1000 X-URL: Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:03:05 +1000 From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Subject: Re: [Q Re: [V PACKAGES (latin-unity)] Fix build. (generate latin-unity-tables.el) In-reply-to: <87brrtv796.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> To: XEmacs beta Mail-followup-to: XEmacs beta Message-id: Organization: The XEmacs Project MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="=-=-=" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY References: <877k2hakqu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87brrtv796.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Keywords: sjt,elc,latin-unity-utils,echo,xemacs,tables,latin-unity-vars, latin-unity-tables X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable |--=3D=3D> "SJT" =3D=3D Stephen J Turnbull writes: SJT> QUERY SJT> Sorry to bug you again, but as long as you're interested enough to t= ry SJT> to get it right, I'm gonna ask: That's cool. >>>>>>"SY" =3D=3D Steve Youngs writes: SY> [...] SJT> # Experimental rule to build latin-unity-tables.el. SJT> -latin-unity-tables.el: latin-unity-vars.elc latin-unity-utils.elc SJT> - $(BOOT_XEMACS) -l latin-unity-utils -f latin-unity-dump-tables SJT> - @echo "*** You may see a few warnings about ISO 8859/3. ***" SJT> - @echo "*** This is OK; it doesn't use all code points. ***" SJT> +#latin-unity-tables.el: latin-unity-vars.elc latin-unity-utils.elc SJT> +# $(BOOT_XEMACS) -l latin-unity-utils -f latin-unity-dump-tables SJT> +# @echo "*** You may see a few warnings about ISO 8859/3. ***" SJT> +# @echo "*** This is OK; it doesn't use all code points. ***" =20 SJT> Is this deletion necessary? No, I just commented it out for cleanliness because it wasn't going to be used by the XPRM. But having it in there won't hurt anything. It's going to be needed if/when building the tables becomes a safe thing to do for everyone, so feel free to uncomment it again. Anyone who wanted to build their own tables could simply 'make latin-unity-tables.el' from latin-unity's source directory. SJT> If it's necessary, how about a rule SJT> .PHONY: build-table SJT> build-table: latin-unity-vars.elc latin-unity-utils.elc [...] This would work too, but I wouldn't do it because if/when the tables are _always_ built this would need to be renamed to "latin-unity-tables.el". It might get forgotten. =2D-=20 |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj+m0JwACgkQHSfbS6lLMAN3IACfcwWyO6KLPw5TInkqQX3IXqsU 5okAnjvk/OL/baNQjmNtsUwlzXhPODAn =B1jT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 18:10:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3NA1v29777; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:10:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3N9V429638 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:09:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA3N9T629628 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:09:29 -0500 Received: from tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.132.38]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA3N9Tv29623 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:09:29 -0500 Received: from csn-server.csn.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.101.249] helo=gondor.middle-earth.priv) by tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.22) id 1AGnpA-00012U-BB for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:09:28 +0100 Received: from gondor.middle-earth.priv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondor.middle-earth.priv (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA3N9ksT018957 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:09:46 +0100 Received: (from chkr@localhost) by gondor.middle-earth.priv (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id hA3N9kSd018954; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:09:46 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: bug with indenting C files References: From: Christian Krause Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:09:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Christian Krause's message of "Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:15:34 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e90a451e269f6704296cddf3d75231cf X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:15:34 +0200, Christian Krause wrote: > I found a very annoying bug with indenting C files. > The bug occurs under the following circumstances > [...] Hi, some weeks ago I wrote this bug report to the list, but didn't get any response yet. Does really nobody has a hint for me, what I can do to solve my problem? ;-) If this is not the right place for the problem, please redirect me. I love the xemacs especially for this feature, which I use regular. Without the possibility to use the narrow mode it is much harder to work in big files. regards, christian From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 21:47:38 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA42l5v03124; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:47:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA42kk003032 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:46:46 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA42kIB02867 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:46:18 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA42kHv02861 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:46:17 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGrCP-000807-00; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:45:41 +0900 To: Christian Krause Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: bug with indenting C files References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:45:41 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Christian Krause's message of "Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:09:46 +0100") Message-ID: <87vfq0ua0a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Christian" == Christian Krause writes: Christian> If this is not the right place for the problem, please Christian> redirect me. Try bug-cc-mode@gnu.org. I would guess that GNU Emacs extended the API and we haven't yet synched, but maybe the cc-mode people can install a workaround for XEmacs. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 21:54:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA42s5v05220; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:54:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA42rM404968 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:53:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA42r0804827 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:53:00 -0500 Received: from rogerbinns.com (dsl3-63-249-88-19.cruzio.com [63.249.88.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA42qnv04769 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:52:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 25598 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2003 02:52:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ROGER-SQYVR14D3) (192.168.1.53) by internal.rogerbinns.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2003 02:52:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:52:49 -0800 Message-Id: To: XEmacs Beta From: rogerb@rogerbinns.com Subject: [Bug: 21.4.13] Wrong frame changes on buffer selection menu X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! Start Xemacs View -> New Frame Open up a few files Then in the frame that doesn't have focus, click on the buffers menu and select a buffer. Focus gets transferred to the new frame, but the old frame is the one that has the buffer changed. I would expect the buffer to change in the frame whose buffer menu I clicked on. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in "d:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4-release\\nt". Using compiler "cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML". Installing XEmacs in "c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.13". Package path is "~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using portable dumper. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\build\build-report c:\Program Files\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.4.13\lisp\build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.81 :type regular) (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.17 :type regular) (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.13 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.14 :type regular) (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) (time :version 1.13 :type regular) (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.66 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.24 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:version 1.25 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular) (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.17 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.15 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.25 :type regular) (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.62 :type regular) (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.11 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.1 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.14 :type regular) (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.1 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (efs :version 1.31 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.19 :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.12 :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.14 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.13 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.4 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.17 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.14 :type regular)) Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 wid-edit font-lock imenu python-mode comint ring efs-cu cus-face paren blink-paren icomplete zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads 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misc-user button1 button1up C-x C-f M-BS M-BS M-BS M-BS TAB TAB p r j TAB BS o TAB h j BS BS j TAB b i t TAB TAB TAB i m p o TAB e TAB RET M-x f o n TAB m o TAB RET misc-user misc-user misc-user M-x r e p o r t - TAB x TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Making completion list... Loading about...done Loading about... Loading font-lock...done Loading font-lock... Using the CPython shell Local value of py-indent-offset set to 4 Loading python-mode...done Loading python-mode... Loading efs-cu...done Loading efs-cu... Making completion list... Making completion list... Making completion list... Loading cus-face...done Loading cus-face... Paren mode is blink-paren Loading paren...done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 22:11:45 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA43Bav10728; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:11:36 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA43APO10216 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:10:25 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA43ALu10193 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:10:21 -0500 Received: from egress.mssm.edu (egress.mssm.edu [146.203.100.21]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA43AGv10160 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:10:16 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.egress.mssm.edu by egress.mssm.edu (PMDF V6.2 #30766) id <0HNT004014T4WN@egress.mssm.edu> for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mssm.edu ([146.203.103.146]) by egress.mssm.edu (PMDF V6.2 #30766) with ESMTP id <0HNT003IZ4T3I7@egress.mssm.edu> for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:10:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:09:48 -0500 From: Barnabas Wolf Subject: [Bug: 21.4.14] Segfault closing frame with system widgets To: XEmacs Beta Message-id: <3FA7187C.7080401@mssm.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! My XEmacs crashes every time I close a frame by clicking the window systems widget to close the given xemacs window. If I delete the frame or quit with keyboard commands or the XEmacs menu options then everything is fine. The crash occurs even with -vanilla and immediately after startup. Many thanks to everyone that looks at this! Barnabas Lisp backtrace follows: kill-emacs() # bind (arg) save-buffers-kill-emacs() delete-frame(# t) eval((delete-frame # t)) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) [1]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) xemacs #0 0x40553001 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) where #0 0x40553001 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x80b3378 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at emacs.c:642 #2 #3 0x402e089f in XtWidgetToApplicationContext () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #4 0x402e70f1 in XtGetValues () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #5 0x81a8416 in x_get_frame_parent (f=0x849ce90) at frame-x.c:2262 #6 0x811deb7 in delete_frame_internal (f=0x849ce90, force=1, called_from_delete_device=1, from_io_error=0) at frame.c:1455 #7 0x80a5cfb in delete_device_internal (d=0x83892c0, force=1, called_from_delete_console=1, from_io_error=0) at device.c:798 #8 0x809e2fe in delete_console_internal (con=0x8386910, force=1, called_from_kill_emacs=1, from_io_error=0) at console.c:689 #9 0x80b4c5f in Fkill_emacs (arg=1080582564) at emacs.c:2968 #10 0x80baa78 in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffec28) at eval.c:3536 #11 0x8091589 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x86ff200 "Ä\bÅ\"\210ÅÆÇÈ \"s«\006ÉÊ!­?ËÌ!«3Ì Í\032\211\e« Î\013@!Ïs«\022Ð\013@!\031Ð\013@\t\"\21 0\t)«\003Å\022\013A\211\023¬â\n?®\005\212Ñ\213)*­\bÒÓ!­\003Ô \207\200", stack_depth=5, constants_data=0x40708 340) at bytecode.c:748 #12 0x8091269 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1081576080, nargs=0, args=0xbfffed88) at bytecode.c:516 #13 0x80bac3f in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffed84) at eval.c:3572 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #14 0x80bfb11 in call0 (fn=1080456852) at eval.c:4175 #15 0x809e234 in delete_console_internal (con=0x8386910, force=1, called_from_kill_emacs=0, from_io_error=0) at console.c:639 #16 0x80a5c28 in delete_device_internal (d=0x83892c0, force=1, called_from_delete_console=0, from_io_error=0) at device.c:736 #17 0x811dc09 in delete_frame_internal (f=0x849ce90, force=1, called_from_delete_device=0, from_io_error=0) at frame.c:1318 #18 0x81219d8 in Fdelete_frame (frame=139054736, force=1080580740) at frame.c:1685 #19 0x80ba116 in Feval (form=141764720) at eval.c:3335 #20 0x80baa78 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbffff078) at eval.c:3536 #21 0x80bfb6a in call1 (fn=1080563052, arg0=141764720) at eval.c:4190 #22 0x80f8d7e in execute_command_event (command_builder=0x84063b0, event=141727904) at event-stream.c:3919 #23 0x80f9493 in Fdispatch_event (event=141727904) at event-stream.c:4258 #24 0x809c3ca in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:583 #25 0x809c659 in command_loop_1 (dummy=1080582564) at cmdloop.c:494 #26 0x80c06d6 in condition_case_1 (handlers=1080582204, bfun=0x809c640 , barg=1080582564, hfun=0x809c6d0 , harg=1080582564) at eval.c:1652 #27 0x809c7cf in command_loop_2 (dummy=1080582564) at cmdloop.c:256 #28 0x80c059c in internal_catch (tag=1080387108, func=0x809c790 , arg=1080582564, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1318 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #29 0x809c0fe in initial_command_loop (load_me=1080582564) at cmdloop.c:305 #30 0x80b43a4 in xemacs_21_4_14_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2460 #31 0x80b4af7 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbffff4dc, envp=0xbffff4e4) at emacs.c:2829 #32 0x40542c6f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux itdcdev 2.4.4-64GB-SMP #1 SMP Fri May 18 14:54:08 GMT 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with-widge ts=athena' '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.4.14 "Reasonable Discussion" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/src/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.14 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -fno-strict-aliasing -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for Motif. *WARNING* Many versions of Motif are buggy, requiring workarounds. You are likely to experience slow redisplay. You may need to install vendor patches to Motif. See PROBLEMS for more information. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using Motif to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. 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Loading id-select-startup.el...done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 3 23:29:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA44T1v04892; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:29:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA44SQW04744 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:28:26 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA44S9Q04670 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:28:09 -0500 Received: from ohio.stageserver.net (ohio.stageserver.net [216.180.225.74]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA44S4v04654; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:28:04 -0500 Received: from ip68-6-52-110.sb.sd.cox.net ([68.6.52.110] helo=localhost.localdomain) by ohio.stageserver.net with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.24) id 1AGsnQ-0005Y7-8R; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 23:28:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:28:10 -0800 From: junq To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak Message-Id: <20031103202810.4804a377.junq@ihubbell.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103082241.66adee2a.junq@ihubbell.com> Organization: junq X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.5claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) User-Agent: Junq Mailer Ver. 20,097,432.312 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ohio.stageserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ihubbell.com X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:27:34 +0100 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > junq writes: > > >> It might well be, but it's far from obvious where the problem lies. > >> > >> Does the leak occur if you start `xemacs -q', load a Perl script, > >> and leave XEmacs for the night? > > > > Don't know, but tonight I will do that and report my findings. > > Please do. Independently of that, there is another thing you can do. Running without the init.el seems to stop the leakage. It's possible that it is a problem (from what I've learned so far) from the XAE that gets loaded via init.el XAE == Xml Authoring Environment xae-1.0beta8 http://xae.sunsite.dk/xae-beta.tar.gz > Think of it this way: to the best of our knowledge, an idle timer hook > is leaking memory. It might be either the problem with the hook or > with the timer mechanism. To narrow down the problem, you could: > > 1. Run (while t (cperl-get-help-defer)) and monitor the XEmacs process > for signs of leakage. If you don't detect leaking in several > minutes, there is probably no leak in that area. Chewed on the cpu well enough but I observed no memory leak. > > 2. Run (run-with-idle-timer .1 t (lambda () nil)) and leave XEmacs for > the night. See if you get the leaks. This is running but it looks inocuous so far. > > Do these with the configuration that normally leaks, i.e. *not* with > `xemacs -q'. If you detect the leak in one (or both!) of these, we'll > narrow down the search for the culprit. If you don't, it might mean > that the problem lies either in interaction between the two or > somewhere else altogether. > > I cannot detect a leak in 21.4.13 with either of the above methods. > > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 00:43:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA45h2v24018; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:43:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA45gTI15895 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:42:29 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA45gEV12516 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:42:14 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA45gDv12354 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:42:13 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGtxB-0008St-00; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:42:09 +0900 To: Barnabas Wolf Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] Segfault closing frame with system widgets References: <3FA7187C.7080401@mssm.edu> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:42:09 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3FA7187C.7080401@mssm.edu> (Barnabas Wolf's message of "Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:09:48 -0500") Message-ID: <87sml4wuz2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Barnabas" == Barnabas Wolf writes: Barnabas> ./configure '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with-widgets=athena' Barnabas> '--with-mule' Barnabas> Compiling in support for Motif. Barnabas> *WARNING* Many versions of Motif are buggy, [...] Barnabas> You are likely to experience slow redisplay. Barnabas> You may need to install vendor patches to Motif. We aren't kidding. This is obviously our fault, though. Barnabas> Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). Barnabas> - Using Motif to provide XIM support. Try adding --with-xim=no (recommended if you don't know what XIM is) or --with-xim=xlib to the configure line. I think this bug in configure will be fixed in 21.4.15 (not yet released). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 01:58:14 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA46w1v28144; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:58:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA46vuY28114 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:57:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA46vfG28077 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:57:41 -0500 Received: from egress.mssm.edu (egress.mssm.edu [146.203.100.21]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA46vPv28018; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:57:25 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.egress.mssm.edu by egress.mssm.edu (PMDF V6.2 #30766) id <0HNT00E01FBMDU@egress.mssm.edu>; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ims-2 ([146.203.9.36]) by egress.mssm.edu (PMDF V6.2 #30766) with ESMTP id <0HNT008NZFBM20@egress.mssm.edu>; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mssm.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ims-2.mssm.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNT002WYF59XQ@ims-2.mssm.edu>; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [24.193.54.167] by ims-2.mssm.edu (mshttpd); Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:53:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:53:33 -0500 From: Barnabas Wolf Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] Segfault closing frame with system widgets To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: XEmacs Beta Message-id: <3588d23573fe.3573fe3588d2@mssm.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I did try to eliminate Motif support, but I missed XIM. Your suggestion of disabling it worked like a charm. Thanks for the quick and helpful response! Barnabas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2003 0:42 am Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] Segfault closing frame with system widgets > >>>>> "Barnabas" == Barnabas Wolf writes: > > Barnabas> ./configure '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with- > widgets=athena' Barnabas> '--with-mule' > > Barnabas> Compiling in support for Motif. > Barnabas> *WARNING* Many versions of Motif are buggy, [...] > Barnabas> You are likely to experience slow > redisplay. Barnabas> You may need to install > vendor patches to Motif. > > We aren't kidding. This is obviously our fault, though. > > Barnabas> Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input > method). Barnabas> - Using Motif to provide XIM support. > > Try adding --with-xim=no (recommended if you don't know what XIM is) > or --with-xim=xlib to the configure line. > > I think this bug in configure will be fixed in 21.4.15 (not yet > released). > > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences > http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jpUniversity of Tsukuba > Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Ask not how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 03:00:22 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4806v10294; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:00:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA47x1I09910 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 02:59:01 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA47wkn09860 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 02:58:46 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA47wiv09852 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 02:58:44 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGw5A-0000V8-00; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:58:32 +0900 To: Michael Sperber , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Call for testers on bytecode fix (GCPRO_STACK/freed lrecord crash) References: <87smm1mika.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewmi0d2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877k38feyu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d6cz8s9v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878ynl4xb3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewb0zqn.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:58:32 +0900 Message-ID: <873cd4tviv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , You who are about to crash (Norbert & Jerry, this means you!), I salute you: Please apply the enclosed patch (against current CVS). After that salutation, it should be clear why this is not in CVS. :-) I found a possible crash left unguarded in Mike's earlier patch. I have my suspicions about other opcodes, but let's see if this helps. Build is OK, I'm sending this post from the patched XEmacs, but since with Mike's patch to GCPRO_STACK Fset I only crash a little more often once a day, I can't say this is "tested" yet. Bvarbind definitely calls Fset through specbind_magic(). I have my suspicions about Bset_buffer, and maybe some other B.*set.* opcodes. Mike, please look at those opcodes: Maybe your oracle is faster than me trying to trace function calls.... Of course it passes 100% of the tests. :-) >>>>> "sjt" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: sjt> Per this discussion I've reverted the GCPRO_STACK patch temporarily. Index: src/ChangeLog =================================================================== RCS file: /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/xemacs/src/ChangeLog,v retrieving revision 1.649 diff -u -U0 -r1.649 ChangeLog --- src/ChangeLog 1 Nov 2003 14:54:53 -0000 1.649 +++ src/ChangeLog 4 Nov 2003 06:48:54 -0000 @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +2003-11-04 Stephen J. Turnbull + + * bytecode.c (execute_optimized_program): GCPRO_STACK Bvarbind, too. + + Restore 2003-08-12 Mike Sperber : + + * bytecode.c (GCPRO_STACK): Added. + (execute_optimized_program): Use GCPRO_STACK, fixing a space leak: + Formerly, the byte-code engine would always hold on to the entire + stack memory area, including the stuff above the top. Now, we + adjust the GCPRO record via GCPRO_STACK just before a GC may + occur. + Index: src/bytecode.c =================================================================== RCS file: /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/xemacs/src/bytecode.c,v retrieving revision 1.37 diff -u -u -r1.37 bytecode.c --- src/bytecode.c 21 Oct 2003 08:21:02 -0000 1.37 +++ src/bytecode.c 4 Nov 2003 06:49:02 -0000 @@ -447,6 +447,8 @@ but don't pop it. */ #define TOP (*stack_ptr) +#define GCPRO_STACK (gcpro1.nvars = stack_ptr - stack_beg) + /* The actual interpreter for byte code. This function has been seriously optimized for performance. Don't change the constructs unless you are willing to do @@ -460,8 +462,8 @@ { /* This function can GC */ REGISTER const Opbyte *program_ptr = (Opbyte *) program; - REGISTER Lisp_Object *stack_ptr - = alloca_array (Lisp_Object, stack_depth + 1); + Lisp_Object *stack_beg = alloca_array (Lisp_Object, stack_depth + 1); + REGISTER Lisp_Object *stack_ptr = stack_beg; int speccount = specpdl_depth (); struct gcpro gcpro1; @@ -471,23 +473,11 @@ #endif #ifdef ERROR_CHECK_BYTE_CODE - Lisp_Object *stack_beg = stack_ptr; Lisp_Object *stack_end = stack_beg + stack_depth; #endif - /* Initialize all the objects on the stack to Qnil, - so we can GCPRO the whole stack. - The first element of the stack is actually a dummy. */ - { - int i; - Lisp_Object *p; - for (i = stack_depth, p = stack_ptr; i--;) - *++p = Qnil; - } - GCPRO1 (stack_ptr[1]); - gcpro1.nvars = stack_depth; - + while (1) { REGISTER Opcode opcode = (Opcode) READ_UINT_1; @@ -512,7 +502,11 @@ if (opcode >= Bconstant) PUSH (constants_data[opcode - Bconstant]); else - stack_ptr = execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr, program_ptr, opcode); + { + /* We're not sure what these do, so better safe than sorry. */ + GCPRO_STACK; + stack_ptr = execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr, program_ptr, opcode); + } break; case Bvarref: @@ -549,8 +543,12 @@ Lisp_Object new_value = POP; if (!SYMBOL_VALUE_MAGIC_P (old_value) || UNBOUNDP (old_value)) symbol_ptr->value = new_value; - else + else { + /* Fset may call magic handlers */ + GCPRO_STACK; Fset (symbol, new_value); + } + break; } @@ -583,7 +581,11 @@ #endif } else - specbind_magic (symbol, new_value); + { + /* does an Fset, may call magic handlers */ + GCPRO_STACK; + specbind_magic (symbol, new_value); + } break; } @@ -597,6 +599,7 @@ case Bcall+7: n = (opcode < Bcall+6 ? opcode - Bcall : opcode == Bcall+6 ? READ_UINT_1 : READ_UINT_2); + GCPRO_STACK; DISCARD (n); #ifdef BYTE_CODE_METER if (byte_metering_on && SYMBOLP (TOP)) @@ -974,6 +977,8 @@ case Bset: { Lisp_Object arg = POP; + /* Fset may call magic handlers */ + GCPRO_STACK; TOP = Fset (TOP, arg); break; } -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 03:47:30 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA48l1v22389; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:47:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA48kWh22231 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:46:32 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA48kUp22219 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:46:30 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA48kUv22212 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:46:30 -0500 Received: from p50831943.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.25.67] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AGwpG-000AXB-Vd for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 09:46:11 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AGwrM-000LDj-DO for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 09:48:20 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Call for testers on bytecode fix (GCPRO_STACK/freed lrecord crash) References: <87smm1mika.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewmi0d2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877k38feyu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d6cz8s9v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878ynl4xb3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewb0zqn.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <873cd4tviv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:58:32 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > You who are about to crash (Norbert & Jerry, this means you!), > I salute you: > > Please apply the enclosed patch (against current CVS). After that > salutation, it should be clear why this is not in CVS. :-) :-) I've applied it, testing right now. I haven't seen crashes lately, although I have been using Gnus, the ultimate regression checker :-) Do you want a build report? norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 04:12:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA49C2v28728; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:12:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA49BGh28513 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:11:16 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA49AXt28357 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:10:33 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA49AWv28350 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:10:32 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGxCo-0000lc-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:10:30 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Call for testers on bytecode fix (GCPRO_STACK/freed lrecord crash) References: <87smm1mika.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewmi0d2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877k38feyu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d6cz8s9v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878ynl4xb3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewb0zqn.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <873cd4tviv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:10:29 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Tue, 04 Nov 2003 09:48:20 +0100") Message-ID: <87oevssdmi.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "viteno" == Norbert Koch writes: viteno> Do you want a build report? You mean you're NOT a 'bot? I was SURE you weren't real. :-) Build reports are always nice. I've gotten lazy, myself, so I can't really use words like "should". ;-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 05:40:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4Ae1v19727; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:40:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4AdZ019641 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:39:35 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4AdJ119585 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:39:19 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4AdIv19580; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:39:19 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA4AdEeO014940; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:39:14 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hA4AdDeO014938; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:39:13 +0100 To: junq Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103082241.66adee2a.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103202810.4804a377.junq@ihubbell.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:39:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031103202810.4804a377.junq@ihubbell.com> (junq@ihubbell.com's message of "Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:28:10 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , junq writes: > Running without the init.el seems to stop the leakage. It's > possible that it is a problem (from what I've learned so far) from > the XAE that gets loaded via init.el XAE == Xml Authoring > Environment > > xae-1.0beta8 > http://xae.sunsite.dk/xae-beta.tar.gz What makes you think that XAE is a problem? Does the leak fail to occur if and only if you comment out the loading of XAE? It would be really strange if XAE caused the leak without having an itimer that would actually run. However, you never know what hooks it might have installed that contain leaks. It could also be a genuine XEmacs bug triggered by the XAE code, but I doubt it without any evidence. >> 1. Run (while t (cperl-get-help-defer)) and monitor the XEmacs process >> for signs of leakage. If you don't detect leaking in several >> minutes, there is probably no leak in that area. > > Chewed on the cpu well enough but I observed no memory leak. > >> >> 2. Run (run-with-idle-timer .1 t (lambda () nil)) and leave XEmacs for >> the night. See if you get the leaks. > > This is running but it looks inocuous so far. Then cperl-mode is probably not to blame. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 05:48:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4Am1v22210; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:48:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4AlKv22041 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:47:20 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4Al5k21987 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:47:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4Akxv21954; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 05:46:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA4AkpeO014947; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:46:51 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hA4AkprN014945; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:46:51 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Michael Sperber , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Call for testers on bytecode fix (GCPRO_STACK/freed lrecord crash) References: <87smm1mika.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewmi0d2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877k38feyu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d6cz8s9v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878ynl4xb3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewb0zqn.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <873cd4tviv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:46:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <873cd4tviv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:58:32 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Bvarbind definitely calls Fset through specbind_magic(). I have my > suspicions about Bset_buffer, and maybe some other B.*set.* opcodes. Doesn't set-buffer change the values of all buffer-local variables? I'm not sure if buffer-local vars can be dontuse-ed, but if they can, Bset_buffer can GC. What a cool expression, dontuse. We should use it everywhere. For example, dontuse-lazy-shot-mode, dontuse-balloon-x, dontuse-mule, the dontuse-iso-2022-jp coding system, etc. Given how hard GC is to trace, maybe we really should just update nvars whenever the stack changes. I wonder what the impact on performance would be. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 07:50:16 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4Co1v27384; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:50:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4CneW27273 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:49:40 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4CnLd27183 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:49:21 -0500 Received: from satana.stru.polimi.it (satana.stru.polimi.it [131.175.189.180]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4CnJv27174 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:49:19 -0500 Received: from boffi95.stru.polimi.it (boffi95.stru.polimi.it [131.175.189.141]) by satana.stru.polimi.it (8.12.3+3.5Wbeta/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id hA4CnCPC006042 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:49:13 +0100 Received: from gb by boffi95.stru.polimi.it with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AH0au-0003WI-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:47:36 +0100 From: giacomo boffi To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.5-b16] jka-compr error Reply-to: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it Message-Id: Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:47:36 +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LARGE_HEX autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! i have some _intermittent_ prob with jka-compr - if i visit a compressed file, most of the times all it's well, but sometimes i have a warning from jka-compr: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Error while executing "gzip -c -q -d < /usr/share/doc/python-docutils/pep-0256.txt.gz" gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and the file is truncated notes: 1. if i use exactly the same command that jka-compr uses (see above) from the shell prompt, what i see on stdout is the whole file, correctly decompressed 2. i suppose that jka-compr does its own error handling (?), because i cannot have a lisp bt when i set the appropriate vars to 't 3. below you'll find a) the end of the buffer, with the truncated file, b) the part of the decompressed file corresponding to the truncation let me know if i can provide further info hth, ciao gb aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa .. _Javadoc: http://java.sun.com/j2se/javadoc/ .. _Autoduck: http://www.helpmaster.com/hlp-developmentaids-autoduck.htm .. _Web: http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/cweb.html .. _[NO NEWLINE HERE] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb .. _Javadoc: http://java.sun.com/j2se/javadoc/ .. _Autoduck: http://www.helpmaster.com/hlp-developmentaids-autoduck.htm .. _Web: http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/cweb.html .. _doc.py: http://www.lemburg.com/files/python/SoftwareDescriptions.html#doc.py .. _pythondoc: .. _gendoc: http://starship.python.net/crew/danilo/pythondoc/ bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux boffi95 2.2.21 #1 Wed Jul 17 12:52:48 CEST 2002 i586 GNU/Linux ./configure '--extra-verbose' '--rel-alloc' '--with-widgets' '--with-athena=3d' '--debug' '--pdump' '--with-wmcommand' '--with-sound=no' '--error-checking=all' XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac" (+CVS-20031031) configured for `i586-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/gb/blackstar/src/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wpacked -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -g -O3 Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw3d - Athena library to link: Xaw3d Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Databases: Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. 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Note: file is write protected From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 10:16:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4FG1v09279; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:16:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4FFOt08874 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:15:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4FF9K08549 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:15:09 -0500 Received: from ohio.stageserver.net (ohio.stageserver.net [216.180.225.74]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4FF1v08356; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:15:01 -0500 Received: from ip68-6-52-110.sb.sd.cox.net ([68.6.52.110] helo=localhost.localdomain) by ohio.stageserver.net with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.24) id 1AH2tV-0007ru-Uf; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:14:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:15:06 -0800 From: junq To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak Message-Id: <20031104071506.3d3fc359.junq@ihubbell.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103082241.66adee2a.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103202810.4804a377.junq@ihubbell.com> Organization: junq X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.5claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) User-Agent: Junq Mailer Ver. 20,097,432.312 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Tue__4_Nov_2003_07_15_06_-0800_=.NZu?9vXnY5zm'n" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ohio.stageserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ihubbell.com X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart_Tue__4_Nov_2003_07_15_06_-0800_=.NZu?9vXnY5zm'n Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:39:13 +0100 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > junq writes: > > > Running without the init.el seems to stop the leakage. It's > > possible that it is a problem (from what I've learned so far) from > > the XAE that gets loaded via init.el XAE == Xml Authoring > > Environment > > > > xae-1.0beta8 > > http://xae.sunsite.dk/xae-beta.tar.gz > > What makes you think that XAE is a problem? Does the leak fail to > occur if and only if you comment out the loading of XAE? xemacs -q (which bypasses loading of init.el and init.el is where XAE is loaded) showed no memory growth, but I think that assertion has been proved wrong after running those tests below. Right? > > It would be really strange if XAE caused the leak without having an > itimer that would actually run. However, you never know what hooks it > might have installed that contain leaks. It could also be a genuine > XEmacs bug triggered by the XAE code, but I doubt it without any > evidence. > > >> 1. Run (while t (cperl-get-help-defer)) and monitor the XEmacs process > >> for signs of leakage. If you don't detect leaking in several > >> minutes, there is probably no leak in that area. > > > > Chewed on the cpu well enough but I observed no memory leak. > > > >> > >> 2. Run (run-with-idle-timer .1 t (lambda () nil)) and leave XEmacs for > >> the night. See if you get the leaks. > > > > This is running but it looks inocuous so far. > > Then cperl-mode is probably not to blame. This ran and I don't see any memory growth, in fact RSS dropped 8 bytes. There were still the ~3% CPU spikes here. So where does this leave us? 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multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_1593511323947858152943346" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAD_CREDIT,CLICK_BELOW, HTML_20_30,HTML_FONTCOLOR_GREEN,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ------=_NextPart_1593511323947858152943346 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Festival Rag v01=2E02 11=2E03=2E2003 One of the principal reasons we started The Festival Rag was to create a p= latform where the voice of the truly independent filmmaker could be heard=2E= For our first issue we wanted someone who had been in the trenches and suc= ceeded=2E We wanted someone who had struggled and continued because the st= ruggle was also the reward=2E We wanted Ben Coccio, director of Zero Day=2E= We approached Ben, asked him to write a first-person account of his "succ= ess story, the ups and downs=2E" He replied immediately, said he'd love to= =2E A week later, there's a message on the Rag's voice mail of the fast-chatti= ng Coccio=2E "Hey it's Ben=2E=2E=2E And I, uh, hmmm=2E=2E=2E I'm enjoying writing this = piece for your magazine but I feel like I'm taking the approach that you m= ight not want to use, and you might not find helpful for your readers=2E=2E= =2E=2E But I've been thinking about it and I feel that all filmmakers do i= t so differently=2E I mean, filmmakers get to a point where they've made a= film, take it to festivals, and try to get distribution=2E The thing is, = sometimes it has nothing to do with effort, or nothing to do with luck, ev= en=2E It's weird but=2E=2E=2E But I think I have some other things to say=2E= =2E=2E" Below, the other things Ben wanted to say=2E THE RAG MEGAPHONE I am no expert=2E I am a novice, an acolyte=2E If you are embarking on a v= oyage similar to the one I started two years ago and you need some directi= on, I could delineate to you exactly how I made and got distribution for m= y no-budget feature Zero Day, but I don't think it would help=2E I did wha= t anyone in my position would do - what anyone would do if they had no obv= ious assets at their disposal=2E All I've learned about the business is th= e scattergun approach to obtaining distribution=2E All I've learned about = the craft is to do what makes sense=2E So let me instead say a little some= thing about what I've learned=2E When it comes to the terra incognita of i= ndependent film, I will start by saying a good movie is a good movie=2E I = am no fan of hair shirts, and I have never felt that budget - one way or t= he other - should be a factor in someone's appreciation of a good picture=2E= If a big budget does not a good film make, then shouldn't it follow that = a good movie made with little money is in no way holier than a good movie = made with a lot of money=3F I admit that a limited budget, like a limited palette, stretches the imagi= nation and forces the filmmaker to chart a new course=2E But I have to be = honest, after two years of navigating through everything myself in a ricke= ty dinghy, I'm about ready to sell out and buy a huge yacht with a G=2EP=2E= S=2E - if only someone would give me the opportunity=2E Zero Day was my attempt to explore Columbine=2E It was shot on video with = a first person narrative conceit as a collection of video diaries made by = the killers-to-be over the course of a year while they plot and then execu= te their massacre=2E When I set upon the course of the first person, Blair Witch-esque structur= e, I knew I was sailing into dangerous waters=2E Many friends warned me th= at it was a cheap, schlocky approach - that Blair Witch-type films had wor= n out their welcome with audiences, critics and cineastes, and that the co= mparisons could hurt my film=2E I didn't care=2E Obviously, limited resour= ces forced my hand somewhat, but most importantly, I felt convinced that t= he method fit the madness to a tee=2E I have noticed in the past few years that cinema has been exploring a neo-= neo-realist ideal=2E Dogme 95, David Gordon Greene, Peter Sollett, and yes= , "Blair Witch," just to name a few indie examples, spell out an interesti= ng trend=2E I'm not sure what exactly it means (let film students of the y= ear 2026 figure that one out), but I think it has something to do with thi= s generation of filmmakers being so profoundly influenced by filmmakers wh= o were so profoundly influenced by Italian Neo-Realism, the French New Wav= e and the like=2E I think it also has something to do with growing up in a= culture steeped in media self-consciousness=2E It's not enough now, it se= ems, to have a movie feel real in its staging of events - it has to have t= he trappings of something we would watch on TV, something that actually is= real=2E Now, I'm getting into a Moebius strip of digression here, but take for exa= mple Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan=2E Spielberg was born during= World War II in a country that was fighting blood-and-guts battles around= the world and, at the same time, was somehow paradoxically at arm's lengt= h from those horrors=2E Everything Spielberg's generation remembers about = the war is from Movietone news footage and relatives' recollections=2E Nor= mandy was a shaky set of half-ruined snapshots, Auschwitz was an after-the= -fact black-and-white documentary commissioned by the U=2ES=2E Army=2E Doesn't it make sense that his film about the Holocaust was shot in black-= and-white and his film about combat in Europe was shot from the perspectiv= e of a war correspondent=3F Screened alongside films made by Europeans abo= ut the same events it's uncanny: compare Wajda's Kanali to Saving Private = Ryan or Landscape After Battle to Schindler's List=2E I am not trying to d= iminish Spielberg's two movies - I love them - I am just trying to illustr= ate that America is a land of separation and alienation and that we make a= rt about how we live=2E I approached Zero Day in a way that I felt talked about that phenomenon of= cultural separation and alienation at the same time that it dramatically = interpreted the events at Columbine=2E I appropriated the cool, user-frien= dly, pop-culture Blair Witch approach (another movie that I love) and dist= orted it=2E Instead of a supernatural being made real, and hence more scar= y, I took a real scare and made it feel immediate and present and at the s= ame time unapproachable and at arm's length=2E I also took a pulpy, exploi= tation-flick title to match my approach=2E=20 This, I felt, was the apex of independent filmmaking - right=3F Isn't that= right=3F You use what you have, you approach something with a personal vi= sion, and you try to say something smart in an interesting way=2E Isn't th= at the point of being an independent filmmaker=3F Well let me tell you, during all of this - from making this thing to seein= g it limp out into the world - I thought a lot about what the point of ind= ependent film is=2E Somewhere between what B-movies did for us as a cultur= e and what the modern entertainment conglomerates monopolized came the ide= a of independent film=2E The power to pop the public in the puss, and to b= e cheap about it - to thumb your nose at the big boys and make a buck - th= at's the dream, isn't it=3F Over the last thirteen years, the no-budget/no-star map of indie film beca= me muddled to me=2E I had to discover a new definition=2E I decided indie = flicks are movies made about things that studios can't or won't touch, in = ways that studios won't or can't work=2E Well, two years on from the day I= set sail, that doesn't really work for me either=2E When I started workin= g on Zero Day, it was March of 2001=2E By the time I got distribution, Col= umbine had been tackled by "Law & Order," Showtime, Michael Moore and Gus = Van Sant=2E And although these guys are not the Hollywood A-list, their ab= ility to get attention for their work and to be backed by medium to large = companies (United Artists, HBO, Fine Line) amounts to much the same thing = to a max-out-the-credit-card-and-pray-for-rain guy like myself=2E So what is independent film=3F It's like mercury - once it spills from the= thermometer and onto the real world, it'll always slip from under your po= inted finger=2E Nowadays, I don't care much for distinctions=2E I think th= e only thing that matters is making what you want to make any way you can=2E= You can't expect special treatment just because you came out of nowhere a= nd made your film cheaply=2E You can't demand attention just because you m= ake a movie about something you think is off limits=2E You can't hope for = an audience to grasp what you think is profound just because you played yo= ur movie at the Film Forum=2E I must have been very na=EFve when I set sai= l, and I wish I could say for sure that I am on a new track=2E As I ventur= e into deeper waters, listing slightly, my journey towards becoming a film= maker is far from its end=2E It's not even the beginning of the end=2E But= it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning=2E =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D THE SNOWBALL EFFECT On April 1, 2004, the storybook village of Vail, Colorado will open its fr= ost-covered doors to an expected mass of 40,000 avid moviegoers, critics a= nd filmmakers for the first annual Vail Film Festival=2E In only four days= , attendees will be bombarded by an onslaught of screen entertainment cent= ered on 25 Features, 25 Shorts, 10 Documentaries, and 10 Student Films=2E = The festival circuit is a pretty competitive one, but the VFF will burst o= nto it armed with two big innovations: a Television Pilots programme and t= he first-ever Gershwin Showcase=2E The latter is a short-film contest spon= sored by the Gershwin Foundation, which is giving away music rights to son= gs from the catalogue of George and Ira Gershwin, in addition to awarding = thousands of dollars in prize money=2E Co-directors Denis Jensen and Sean & Scott Cross have watched their projec= t gather major momentum on its downhill race from vision to reality this p= ast year=2E They are all New York-based filmmakers and avid Vail skiers, w= ith no prior experience in such an undertaking=2E From where they stand in= their cramped New York City office, the festival seems to have been conju= red out of thin mountain air=2E "I think a lot of it had to do with timing," says Jensen=2E "We always kin= d of wondered, well, why isn't there a film festival in Vail=3F That evolv= ed into talking to a number of community leaders=2E We were giving a prese= ntation to the Vail town council and they stopped us midway through and sa= id, 'This is just a slam dunk=2E"' The idea went over very well and it lit= erally snowballed from there=2E" The idea: Vail as an annual Mecca for innovative filmmaking=2E "We didn't want to do just another big festival - like Sundance - but we a= lso didn't want to reinvent the wheel," Jensen continues=2E "We're looking= to keep it truly independent, with an emphasis on innovation=2E" One innovation has been adding TV pilots onto their festival slate=2E "One= of our bigger goals is to do for television pilots what festivals have be= en doing for films the past thirty years," according to Jensen=2E The inte= gration of this new category shines the spotlight on a seldom-recognized g= enre, to the benefit of visiting TV execs as well as regular moviegoers=2E= As TV-pilot veterans know, works such as these see oblivion much more oft= en than they deserve=2E The driving force behind the Vail Program came from director-writer Michae= l Nigro of Acme Pictures in New York=2E And though he is no longer working= with the VFF, his creations remain=2E The most valuable of Nigro's innova= tions for the festival may be for the short films and his Gershwin Showcas= e, which is something of a mini film festival unto itself=2E The Showcase = will benefit new=20 and poorly-heeled filmmakers with free-licensing for some of the well-know= n songs by legendary 1930s composers George and Ira Gershwin=2E In collabo= ration with LJ Strunsky of the Gershwin Foundation, the VFF has launched t= he Showcase with the intent of re-introducing the famous Gershwin sound to= young, filmically hip audiences=2E More information can be found on the V= FF website (www=2Evailfilmfestival=2Eorg) and on the Gershwin site, www=2E= gershwin=2Ecom=2E The VFF's other secret weapon is of course Vail itself=2E It's a small tow= n that holds the largest resort in North America - a fact not wasted on th= e three co-directors=2E "We want people to really interact," says Sean Cro= ss=2E Many screenings will take place at night, allowing attendees to make= the most of Vail's considerable daytime charms=2E And throughout the four= days, screenings will be accompanied by workshops and panel discussions, = helmed by veteran indie producer and festival impresario Gil Holland=2E But an indie film festival runs on indie films, not just a great venue=2E = At the end of October, the VFF began accepting submissions, even in advanc= e before the first official day of consideration (October 31st)=2E Studio = films, which often cruise the festival circuit in advance of widespread th= eatrical releases, will be considered alongside their distant low-budget c= ousins=2E All festival towns like publicity, and Vail is already known as = a celebrity destination=2E Publicity will come to the bigger films by virt= ue of the big names attached to them=2E But the VFF directors have more on= their minds=2E "I think that there are only so many movies that can make it to mainstream= theaters," Sean pointed out=2E "There are so many people out there making= quality films that don't get to be seen=2E I think that's the true reason= for these festivals and why audiences love to go=2E They get to see these= little gems that they won't get to see anywhere else=2E People want to se= e unique perspectives=2E" As the VFF gains exposure in such a celebrity-conscious town, it will be a= challenge to the three directors to hold fast to their own unique perspec= tives=2E Holding fast to their underground roots and innovative schemes, J= ensen and the brothers Cross are unfazed: "We'd really like to perpetuate = the momentum that independent cinema has right now," says Jensen=2E "We'd = like to take that in slightly different directions, based on our vision=2E= All of us come in as artists putting on a festival for artists=2E We're l= ooking to mix things up a little bit=2E"=20 - Daniel Wasserman =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D RAG PROFILE "Sorry, I flaked," filmmaker Mike Bencivenga says after forgetting to show= up for our first interview=2E Well, I'm thinking, there's my angle, a sca= tter-brained filmmaker=2E But then again, knowing that Bencivenga writes f= rom experience, and knowing that his two feature films contain people who = are lost and seem to have no hope of being saved, my pre-conceived notion = of him is, well, kinda pathetic=2E Sure, both of his films are classified = as comedies, but the laughs are a mere fa=E7ade, hiding tortured souls=2E = When we finally meet a few days later, I'm expecting to shake hands with a= brooding, melodramatic, scatter-brained "artiste=2E" Anything but=2E Benc= ivenga greets me with smiles and exuberance, leading me to wonder: Is this= art imitating life, this cheerful fa=E7ade=3F No, this is a genuinely hap= py guy=2E But a guy still capable of delving into the twisted bowel of alc= oholism and lost dreams at the center of his latest project, Happy Hour=2E= The main character plumbs this depth completely during the course of the = film=2E=20 "I am not that person," he says, laughing=2E "But I've had plenty of exper= ience getting to know people in my life who are like that=2E Plenty self-d= estructive writers and people who struggle in New York with working a job = during the day and writing at night=2E I am very familiar with wondering h= ow you get that to work=2E" Happy Hour stars Anthony LaPaglia and Eric Stoltz as two friends, Tully an= d Levine, self-admitted "drinkers with a writing problem=2E" They meet dai= ly at their favorite bar to complain about jobs they hate and dreams they'= ve left unrealized=2E LaPaglia shines as Tully, whose excessive drinking l= iterally consumes his life, even as he blossoms in a love affair with a sc= hoolteacher, played with grace and charm by Caroleen Feeney=2E The film's intelligent script succeeds by delineating the two characters d= espite their similar artistic ambitions and after-work hobby of drinking=2E= The character of Tully works as some kind of hero and as his own foil; he= 's an older version of Levine=2E As Tully's arc rises and falls, Levine me= asures him and watches what could well be his own future sitting and rotti= ng beside him=2E It's a powerful combination and a difficult one to play w= ell=2E=20 Bencivenga's ear for dialogue is laudable and, he admits, has been a focus= since his years at NYU Film School=2E "Everyone wanted to be a director b= ut very few people wanted to sit down and learn how to write=2E I had made= a bunch of short films and documentaries and had directed plays but I wan= ted to learn to appreciate scripts=2E" Bencivenga won a Student Academy Award before NYU, at Adelphi University=2E= He went on to write sketch comedy and to direct several short comedy film= s for HBO and Cinemax, before landing a steady gig at ABC News=2E He produ= ced a full-length documentary with Yoko Ono, and won an Emmy for a show he= created for "Frontline" on the Millennium celebration=2E=20 In 1993, Bencivenga's first feature, the micro-budget Losers In Love, won = several festival prizes and got him a producing credit in the Independent = Feature Project catalog=2E Richard Levine, a screenwriter in North Carolin= a, found him through "Losers" and sent him an early draft of Happy Hour=2E= It wasn't long before they re-wrote the script together and Bencivenga ag= reed to direct=2E Through several indie connections, LaPaglia and Stoltz e= ventually signed on and Happy Hour was completed this past January=2E It i= s now playing film festivals across the country while its authors search f= or distribution=2E Bencivenga tells me he's been culling his own life experiences for his nex= t project, Single Bullet Theory=2E The title throws me and he adds, "No, I= haven't killed anyone=2E" Now it's me who's flaking: see, he's recently e= ngaged and the story's about the "nature of love in the modern world=2E" T= alk about writing from the heart=2E - Emmett Williams =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D HOW TO SELL GOD, SEX & APPLE PIE There is no definitive "How-To" book when it comes to making an indie film= and finessing it into distribution=2E What works for one filmmaker may ha= ve failed dozens of others=2E Every filmmaker, successful or not, has his = or her story that could fill a book=2E This is Jerome Courshon's Cliffs No= tes version=2E As an aside, Jerome refused to reveal how many years this w= hole process took him=2E His response to the Rag when asked was, "More tha= n I care to admit=2E" Anyway, his long, strange trip started when he scrip= ted his first feature, God, Sex & Apple Pie, and ends happily (I think we = can say that) years later, since his comedy-drama, with no bankable names,= has recently been picked up for distribution by Warner Bros=2E and is now= seeing the light of day=2E Many moons ago, I wrote a script called "God, Sex & Apple Pie," an ensembl= e comedy/drama about a group of friends over a holiday weekend=2E It wasn'= t The Big Chill=2E Or Indian Summer=2E It was what I wanted: a poignant lo= ok at the current generation (my generation), but with edge and depth=2E T= hough it was my first full-length screenplay, something told me I had to m= ake it=2E I now think that that "something" was naivete, because I had no = idea how to produce and soon discovered no one wanted to work with a first= -time producer=2E Having now gone through this process, even I would be le= ery to work with a first-time producer=2E While searching for a producer w= ith experience, I was also working to raise money=2E And failing at that t= oo=2E After three years of looking for funds, I said "enough of this shit"= and gave myself an ultimatum: If I didn't raise the capital in another si= x months, I would pull together whatever I could and just start shooting=2E= Which is exactly what happened=2E What did I use for money=3F Why, Visa a= nd Mastercard, of course=2E Twenty-six of them=2E But because I wanted thi= s to be shot on 35mm, I only had enough lines of credit to get it in the c= an=2E Before it was in the can, however, I had my share of problems: directors b= owing out, an actor leaving two weeks before principal photography, losing= our production manager two weeks before shooting=2E It's amazing I don't = have gray hair=2E Shot on location in Lake Tahoe, the 3-week shoot (3 six-day weeks) was not= extremely problematic=2E That's a lie=2E There were a lot of problems, bu= t nobody died and nothing burned down, so I consider that not extremely pr= oblematic=2E=20 Once wrapped and back to Los Angeles, the editing began - though I had no = money left=2E Finding completion funding when the rough cuts are really ro= ugh is extremely difficult=2E Investors and distributors cannot extrapolat= e what your gem will look like when it's done=2E (Don't trust distributors= who say they "can" - they cannot=2E) After a significant passage of time I finally was able to raise the funds = to get the movie finished=2E No, no more credit cards, but not for lack of= trying=2E All my applications were rejected=2E With the movie completed I= showed it to a few distributors, who all passed=2E The prevailing reason:= no "stars" in the cast=2E=20 Another tactic: the film festival circuit and hoping to get into the top N= orth American festivals where all distribution execs attend=2E That didn't= happen and finding theatrical distribution was looking dim=2E Knowing tha= t theatrical distributors only buy movies under certain, very specific con= ditions, I reconciled myself to developing a profile (press, reviews, fest= ival awards, etc) for the movie while hitting the next level of film festi= vals=2E I figured when I was done, I might have a shot at something else, = such as home video or cable=2E After God, Sex & Apple Pie began winning fe= stival awards and critical praise, I decided to hold a big screening for a= ll the major distributors in L=2EA=2E Distributors, I knew, do not buy mov= ies this way, but I thought, "maybe it'll be different for me=2E" It wasn'= t=2E One year and eleven festivals later, I called it quits=2E I was burned out= , and so far in debt it wasn't even remotely funny=2E A couple of drunken = stupors and a month or two of rest later, I was back at it=2E I began to p= itch all the home video companies, had a television sales rep pitch the ca= ble companies with an astonishing result=2E Nearly everyone passed=2E A fe= w bites from a couple video companies, but they couldn't commit=2E Now I w= as depressed=2E I then came to the conclusion - the ultimate decision - that if this movie= was ever going to see the light of day, I would have to open it theatrica= lly in as many cities as I could=2E I felt this was the only shot I had at= changing the movie's prospects=2E So, off I went to raise more money=2E A= gain! Putting the movie into theatres yourself is, in fact, as hard as they say = it is=2E But if "they" tell you not to do it, as some high level industry = people told me - including one famous producer's rep (there's a character = in a movie modeled after him) - ignore them=2E They're NOT filmmakers, and= they DON'T have what you have on the line=2E You make the choice - don't = let them make it for you=2E That said, four-walling God, Sex & Apple Pie t= ook enormous time and energy and cash=2E And there's no point in just thro= wing your movie into a theatre and not supporting it=2E This really requir= es "working it=2E" Nevertheless, the theatrical exposure was providing some good reviews from= recognizable film critics=2E This, along with positive festival press and= awards, was the critical point which enabled me to finally make some dist= ribution deals happen=2E I was able to close a Pay-Per-View deal, and foun= d a contact to a company with a relationship with Warner Bros=2E Home Vide= o, who are now distributing God, Sex & Apple Pie on home video and DVD=2E The bottom line=3F Don't give up if you believe=2E If you've put years int= o your movie, what's a couple more=3F You've probably made enormous sacrif= ices to get your movie this far and into the festival circuit, you might a= s well keep going till you arrive at your finish line or wherever it is yo= u want to go!=20 - Jerome Courshon www=2EGodSexApplePie=2Ecom =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D UPCOMING DEADLINES The Sixth Annual Sarasota Film Festival: Jan 23 - Feb 1, 2004 So what if it's only their sixth year=2E It's one of our faves and you onl= y have until November 7th to postmark your submission=2E The Sarasota Film= Festival is a wonderful 10-day festival presenting a non-stop schedule of= film premieres and screenings, symposiums, seminars, programming for stud= ents and families, community outreach events and, of course, parties=2E=20= www=2Esarasotafilmfestival=2Ecom Short Comedies on Broadway Have a funny short=3F Let New York's premiere comedy night club CAROLINES = put it on Broadway for you=2E Funny Film Shorts is a monthly festival, consistently screening the finest= comedic short films from around the world=2E The next deadline is Decembe= r 1=2E The show sports a comedian host and an all-star panel, consisting of filmm= akers, comics, and other industry professionals=2E For more info go to: ww= w=2Ecarolines=2Ecom/filmshorts=2Ehtml - however, we kind of like Brandon M= ikolaski's snappy e-mail answers, so click here and email him for further = info: bmikolaski@carolines=2Ecom Finding Nemo in France You want to find Nemo=3F Go to France=2E Hey, we're not kidding=2E The Nem= o Festival in Paris, France is dedicated only to the experimental image=2E= This program is so dang flexible it'd make a dog cleaning itself jealous=2E= Interactive documentaries and fictions, video art, 2D/3D computer graphic= s, motion graphic design, music videos, electronic visual effects, install= ations, 'Net art, audiovisual performances, as well as innovative classic = narrative cinema=2E The next festival runs March 9 to 14, 2004=2E Deadline= : December 18, 2003=2E=20 www=2Efestivalnemo=2Ecom Cinema Epicuria at Sonoma's Best Film Festival Filmmakers, if there's one festival you want to get into it's the Sonoma V= alley Film Festival=2E No pretension, no Hollywood B=2ES=2E But, lord, the= food, the wine, the friendly Sonomans (as opposed to the abominable Sonom= ans) (seriously), and a killer film program=2E There's wine served at ever= y meal and for some reason you have 10 meals a day while there=2E So lie, = cheat, steal, make friends with festival programmer Chris Gore, or just ma= ke a great film and you'll be in good company=2E=20 The 7th annual Sonoma Valley Film Festival is set for April 1-4, 2004=2E D= eadline: December 31, 2003=2E=20 www=2Esonomafilmfest=2Eorg Five'll Get You In: William Bonney's Picture Show We'll freely admit it=2E We don't know much about William Bonney's Picture= Show=2E But from the literature we've read it sounds good=2E This aptly n= amed Picture Show is an ongoing festival of short- and medium-length works= from around the world with a mandate to share revenue from the door with = all participating filmmakers=2E The Rag senses a new festival trend here; = more and more festivals have been doing this=2E Their entry fees are currently $5 to $7 - designed with one thing in mind:= to be affordable, fair, and respectful to the filmmaker=2E The WBPS belie= ves (we know they believe this because it says so in their website) that m= any festival and screening entry fees are just plain excessive, especially= for emerging filmmakers with little or no PR or festival budgets=2E Festi= val deadline, January 1, 2004=2E www=2Ecamerado=2Ecom/picture=5Fshow=2Ehtml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D CALL TO FILMMAKERS The Festival Rag wants to hear from you=2E We're your megaphone! 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One=20 of the principal reasons we started The Festival Rag= =20 was to create a platform where the voice of the truly indepe= ndent=20 filmmaker could be heard=2E

For=20 our first issue we wanted someone who had been in the trench= es and=20 succeeded=2E We wanted someone who had struggled and continu= ed because=20 the struggle was also the reward=2E Turns out we were lookin= g for=20 Ben Coccio, director of Zero Day=2E= We approached=20 Ben, asked him to write a first-person account of his "= success=20 story, the ups and downs=2E" He replied immediately, sa= id he'd=20 love to=2E

A week later, there's a message on the Rag's voice=20= mail of the fast-chatting Coccio=2E

"Hey it's Ben=2E=2E=2E And I, uh, hmmm=2E=2E=2E= I'm enjoying=20 writing this piece for your magazine but I feel like I'm tak= ing=20 the approach that you might not want to use, and you might n= ot find=20 helpful for your readers=2E=2E=2E=2E But I've been thinking = about it and=20 I feel that all filmmakers do it so differently=2E I mean, f= ilmmakers=20 get to a point where they've made a film, take it to festiva= ls,=20 and try to get distribution=2E The thing is, sometimes it ha= s nothing=20 to do with effort, or nothing to do with luck, even=2E It's = weird=20 but=2E=2E=2E But I think I have some other things to say=2E=2E= =2E"

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I=20 am no expert=2E I am a novice, an acolyte=2E If you are embark= ing on a=20 voyage similar to the one I started two years ago and you need= some=20 direction, I could delineate to you exactly how I made and got= distribution=20 for my no-budget feature Zero Day, but I don't think = it would=20 help=2E I did what anyone in my position would do - what anyon= e would=20 do if they had no obvious assets at their disposal=2E All I've= learned=20 about the business is the scattergun approach to obtaining dis= tribution=2E=20 All I've learned about the craft is to do what makes sense=2E = So let=20 me instead say a little something about what I've learned=2E=20

When=20 it comes to the terra incognita of independent film, I will = start=20 by saying a good movie is a good movie=2E I am no fan of hai= r shirts,=20 and I have never felt that budget - one way or the other - s= hould=20 be a factor in someone's appreciation of a good picture=2E I= f a big=20 budget does not a good film make, then shouldn't it follow t= hat=20 a good movie made with little money is in no way holier than= a good=20 movie made with a lot of money=3F

I admit=20 that a limited budget, like a limited palette, stretches the= imagination=20 and forces the filmmaker to chart a new course=2E But I have= to be=20 honest, after two years of navigating through everything mys= elf=20 in a rickety dinghy, I'm about ready to sell out and buy a h= uge=20 yacht with a G=2EP=2ES=2E - if only someone would give me th= e opportunity=2E

Zero=20 Day was my attempt to explore Columbine=2E It was shot = on video=20 with a first person narrative conceit as a collection of vid= eo diaries=20 made by the killers-to-be over the course of a year while th= ey plot=20 and then execute their massacre=2E

When=20 I set upon the course of the first person, Blair Witch-esque=20 structure, I knew I was sailing into dangerous waters=2E Man= y friends=20 warned me that it was a cheap, schlocky approach - that = Blair=20 Witch-type films had worn out their welcome with audien= ces,=20 critics and cineastes, and that the comparisons could hurt m= y film=2E=20 I didn't care=2E Obviously, limited resources forced my hand= somewhat,=20 but most importantly, I felt convinced that the method fit t= he madness=20 to a tee=2E

I have=20 noticed in the past few years that cinema has been exploring= a neo-neo-realist=20 ideal=2E Dogme 95, David Gordon Greene, Peter Sollett, and y= es, Blair=20 Witch, just to name a few indie examples, spell out an = interesting=20 trend=2E I'm not sure what exactly it means (let film studen= ts of=20 the year 2026 figure that one out), but I think it has somet= hing=20 to do with this generation of filmmakers being so profoundly= influenced=20 by filmmakers who were so profoundly influenced by Italian N= eo-Realism,=20 the French New Wave and the like=2E I think it also has some= thing=20 to do with growing up in a culture steeped in media self-con= sciousness=2E=20 It's not enough now, it seems, to have a movie feel real in = its=20 staging of events - it has to have the trappings of somethin= g we=20 would watch on TV, something that actually is real=2E=

Now,=20 I'm getting into a Moebius strip of digression here, but tak= e for=20 example Schindler's List and Saving Private Rya= n=2E=20 Spielberg was born during World War II in a country that was= fighting=20 blood-and-guts battles around the world and, at the same tim= e, was=20 somehow paradoxically at arm's length from those horrors=2E = Everything=20 Spielberg's generation remembers about the war is from Movie= tone=20 news footage and relatives' recollections=2E Normandy was a = shaky=20 set of half-ruined snapshots, Auschwitz was an after-the-fac= t black-and-white=20 documentary commissioned by the U=2ES=2E Army=2E

Doesn't=20 it make sense that his film about the Holocaust was shot in = black-and-white=20 and his film about combat in Europe was shot from the perspe= ctive=20 of a war correspondent=3F Screened alongside films made by E= uropeans=20 about the same events it's uncanny: compare Wajda's Kana= li=20 to Saving Private Ryan or Landscape After Battl= e=20 to Schindler's List=2E I am not trying to diminish = Spielberg's=20 two movies - I love them - I am just trying to illustrate th= at America=20 is a land of separation and alienation and that we make art = about=20 how we live=2E

I approached=20 Zero Day in a way that I felt talked about that phe= nomenon=20 of cultural separation and alienation at the same time that = it dramatically=20 interpreted the events at Columbine=2E I appropriated the co= ol, user-friendly,=20 pop-culture Blair Witch approach (another movie tha= t I=20 love) and distorted it=2E Instead of a supernatural being ma= de real,=20 and hence more scary, I took a real scare and made it feel i= mmediate=20 and present and at the same time unapproachable and at arm's= length=2E=20 I also took a pulpy, exploitation-flick title to match my ap= proach=2E=20

This,=20 I felt, was the apex of independent filmmaking - right=3F Is= n't that=20 right=3F You use what you have, you approach something with = a personal=20 vision, and you try to say something smart in an interesting= way=2E=20 Isn't that the point of being an independent filmmaker=3F

Well=20 let me tell you, during all of this - from making this thing= to=20 seeing it limp out into the world - I thought a lot about wh= at the=20 point of independent film is=2E Somewhere between what B-mov= ies did=20 for us as a culture and what the modern entertainment conglo= merates=20 monopolized came the idea of independent film=2E The power t= o pop=20 the public in the puss, and to be cheap about it - to thumb = your=20 nose at the big boys and make a buck - that's the dream, isn= 't it=3F

Over=20 the last thirteen years, the no-budget/no-star map of indie = film=20 became muddled to me=2E I had to discover a new definition=2E= I decided=20 indie flicks are movies made about things that studios can't= or=20 won't touch, in ways that studios won't or can't work=2E Wel= l, two=20 years on from the day I set sail, that doesn't really work f= or me=20 either=2E When I started working on Zero Day, it wa= s March=20 of 2001=2E By the time I got distribution, Columbine had bee= n tackled=20 by "Law & Order," Showtime, Michael Moore and = Gus=20 Van Sant=2E And although these guys are not the Hollywood A-= list,=20 their ability to get attention for their work and to be back= ed by=20 medium to large companies (United Artists, HBO, Fine Line) a= mounts=20 to much the same thing to a max-out-the-credit-card-and-pray= -for-rain=20 guy like myself=2E

So=20 what is independent film=3F It's like mercury - once it spil= ls from=20 the thermometer and onto the real world, it'll always slip f= rom=20 under your pointed finger=2E Nowadays, I don't care much for= distinctions=2E=20 I think the only thing that matters is making what you want = to make=20 any way you can=2E You can't expect special treatment just b= ecause=20 you came out of nowhere and made your film cheaply=2E You ca= n't demand=20 attention just because you make a movie about something you = think=20 is off limits=2E You can't hope for an audience to grasp wha= t you=20 think is profound just because you played your movie at the = Film=20 Forum=2E I must have been very naïve when I set sail, a= nd I wish=20 I could say for sure that I am on a new track=2E As I ventur= e into=20 deeper waters, listing slightly, my journey towards becoming= a filmmaker=20 is far from its end=2E It's not even the beginning of the en= d=2E But=20 it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning=2E

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On=20 April 1, 2004, the storybook village of Vail, Colorado will op= en its=20 frost-covered doors to an expected mass of 40,000 avid moviego= ers,=20 critics and filmmakers for the first annual Vail Film = Festival=2E=20 In only four days, attendees will be bombarded by an onslaught= of=20 screen entertainment centered on 25 Features, 25 Shorts, 10 Do= cumentaries,=20 and 10 Student Films=2E=20

The=20 festival circuit is a pretty competitive one, but the VFF wi= ll burst=20 onto it armed with two big innovations: a Television Pilots = programme=20 and the first-ever Gershwin Showcase=2E The= latter=20 is a short-film contest sponsored by the Gershwin Foundation= , which=20 is giving away music rights to songs from the catalogue of G= eorge=20 and Ira Gershwin, in addition to awarding thousands of dolla= rs in=20 prize money=2E

Co-directors Denis Jensen and Sean & Scott Cross=20 have watched their project gather major momentum on its down= hill=20 race from vision to reality this past year=2E They are all N= ew York-based=20 filmmakers and avid Vail skiers, with no prior experience in= such=20 an undertaking=2E From where they stand in their cramped New= York=20 City office, the festival seems to have been conjured out of= thin=20 mountain air=2E

"I=20 think a lot of it had to do with timing," says Jensen=2E= "We=20 always kind of wondered, well, why isn't there a film festiv= al in=20 Vail=3F That evolved into talking to a number of community l= eaders=2E=20 We were giving a presentation to the Vail town council and t= hey=20 stopped us midway through and said, 'This is just a slam dun= k=2E'"=20 The idea went over very well and it literally snowballed fro= m there=2E"

The idea: Vail as an annual Mecca for innovative=20 filmmaking=2E

"We didn't want to do just another big festival=20 - like Sundance - but we also didn't want to reinvent the wh= eel,"=20 Jensen continues=2E "We're looking to keep it truly ind= ependent,=20 with an emphasis on innovation=2E"

One=20 innovation has been adding TV pilots onto their festival sla= te=2E=20 "One of our bigger goals is to do for television pilots= what=20 festivals have been doing for films the past thirty years,&q= uot;=20 according to Jensen=2E The integration of this new category = shines=20 the spotlight on a seldom-recognized genre, to the benefit o= f visiting=20 TV execs as well as regular moviegoers=2E As TV-pilot vetera= ns know,=20 works such as these see oblivion much more often than they d= eserve=2E

The=20 driving force behind the Vail Program came from director-wri= ter=20 Michael Nigro of Acme Pictures in New York=2E And though he = is no=20 longer working with the VFF, his creations remain=2E The mos= t valuable=20 of Nigro's innovations for the festival may be for the short= films=20 and his Gershwin Showcase, which is somethi= ng of=20 a mini film festival unto itself=2E The Showcase will benefi= t new=20 and poorly-heeled filmmakers with free-licensing for some of= the=20 well-known songs by legendary 1930s composers George and Ira= Gershwin=2E=20 In collaboration with LJ Strunsky of the Gershwin Foundation= , the=20 VFF has launched the Showcase with the intent of re-introduc= ing=20 the famous Gershwin sound to young, filmically hip audiences= =2E More=20 information can be found on the VFF website (www=2Evailfilmfestival=2Eorg)=20 and on the Gershwin site, www=2Egershwin=2E= com=2E

The VFF's other secret weapon is of course Vail=20 itself=2E It's a small town that holds the largest resort in= North=20 America - a fact not wasted on the three co-directors=2E &qu= ot;We=20 want people to really interact," says Sean Cross=2E Man= y screenings=20 will take place at night, allowing attendees to make the mos= t of=20 Vail's considerable daytime charms=2E And throughout the fou= r days,=20 screenings will be accompanied by workshops and panel discus= sions,=20 helmed by veteran indie producer and festival impresario Gil= Holland=2E

But=20 an indie film festival runs on indie films, not just a great= venue=2E=20 At the end of October, the VFF began accepting submissions, = even=20 in advance before the first official day of consideration (O= ctober=20 31st)=2E Studio films, which often cruise the festival circu= it in=20 advance of widespread theatrical releases, will be considere= d alongside=20 their distant low-budget cousins=2E All festival towns like = publicity,=20 and Vail is already known as a celebrity destination=2E Publ= icity=20 will come to the bigger films by virtue of the big names att= ached=20 to them=2E But the VFF directors have more on their minds=2E=

"I think that there are only so many movies=20 that can make it to mainstream theaters," Sean pointed = out=2E=20 "There are so many people out there making quality film= s that=20 don't get to be seen=2E I think that's the true reason for t= hese festivals=20 and why audiences love to go=2E They get to see these little= gems=20 that they won't get to see anywhere else=2E People want to s= ee unique=20 perspectives=2E"

As=20 the VFF gains exposure in such a celebrity-conscious town, t= he three=20 directors will be challenged to maintain their underground r= oots=20 and creative schemes=2E Jensen and the brothers Cross are un= fazed:=20 "We'd really like to perpetuate the momentum that indep= endent=20 cinema has right now," says Jensen=2E "We'd like t= o take=20 that in slightly different directions, based on our vision=2E= All=20 of us come in as artists putting on a festival for artists=2E= We're=20 looking to mix things up a little=2E"

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"Sorry,=20 I flaked," filmmaker Mike Bencivenga says after forgettin= g to=20 show up for our first interview=2E Well, I'm thinking, there's= my angle,=20 a scatter-brained indie filmmaker=2E But then again, knowing t= hat Bencivenga=20 writes from experience, and knowing that his two feature films= contain=20 people who are lost and seem to have no hope of being saved, m= y pre-conceived=20 notion of him is, well, kinda pathetic=2E Sure, both of his fi= lms are=20 classified as comedies, but the laughs are a mere façad= e, hiding=20 tortured souls=2E

When=20 we finally meet a few days later, I'm expecting to shake han= ds with=20 a brooding, melodramatic, "artiste=2E" Bencivenga = is anything=20 but=2E He greets me with smiles and exuberance, leading me t= o wonder:=20 Is this art imitating life, this cheerful façade=3F N= o, this=20 is a genuinely happy guy=2E But a guy still capable of delvi= ng into=20 the twisted bowel of alcoholism and lost dreams at the cente= r of=20 his latest project, Happy Hour=2E The main characte= r plumbs=20 this depth completely during the course of the film=2E

"I am not that person," he says, laughing=2E=20 "But I've had plenty of experience getting to know peop= le in=20 my life who are like that=2E Plenty self-destructive writers= and people=20 who struggle in New York with working a job during the day a= nd writing=20 at night=2E I am very familiar with wondering how you get th= at to=20 work=2E"

Happy=20 Hour stars Anthony LaPaglia and Eric Stoltz as two frie= nds,=20 Tully and Levine, self-admitted "drinkers with a writin= g problem=2E"=20 They meet daily at their favorite bar to complain about jobs= they=20 hate and dreams they've left unrealized=2E LaPaglia shines a= s Tully,=20 whose excessive drinking literally consumes his life, even a= s he=20 blossoms in a love affair with a schoolteacher, played with = grace=20 and charm by Caroleen Feeney=2E

The film's intelligent script succeeds by delineating=20 the two characters despite their similar artistic ambitions = and=20 after-work hobby of drinking=2E The character of Tully works= as some=20 kind of hero and as his own foil; he's an older version of L= evine=2E=20 As Tully's arc rises and falls, Levine measures him and watc= hes=20 what could well be his own future sitting and rotting beside= him=2E=20 It's a powerful combination and a difficult one to play well= =2E

Bencivenga's=20 ear for dialogue is laudable and, he admits, has been a focu= s since=20 his years at NYU Film School=2E "Everyone wanted to be = a director=20 but very few people wanted to sit down and learn how to writ= e=2E I=20 had made a bunch of short films and documentaries and had di= rected=20 plays but I wanted to learn to appreciate scripts=2E"

Bencivenga won a Student Academy Award before NYU,=20 at Adelphi University=2E He went on to write sketch comedy a= nd to=20 direct several short comedy films for HBO and Cinemax, befor= e landing=20 a steady gig at ABC News=2E He produced a full-length docume= ntary=20 with Yoko Ono, and won an Emmy for a show he created for &qu= ot;Frontline"=20 on the Millennium celebration=2E

In=20 1993, Bencivenga's first feature, the micro-budget Loser= s In=20 Love, won several festival prizes and got him a produci= ng credit=20 in the Independent Feature Project catalog=2E Richard Levine= , a screenwriter=20 in North Carolina, found him through "Losers" and = sent=20 him an early draft of Happy Hour=2E It wasn't long = before=20 they re-wrote the script together and Bencivenga agreed to d= irect=2E=20 Through several indie connections, LaPaglia and Stoltz event= ually=20 signed on and Happy Hour was completed this past Ja= nuary=2E=20 It is now playing film festivals across the country while it= s authors=20 search for distribution=2E

Bencivenga=20 tells me he's been culling his own life experiences for his = next=20 project, Single Bullet Theory=2E The title throws m= e and=20 he clarifies, "No, I haven't killed anyone=2E" Now= it's=20 me who's flaking: see, he's recently engaged and the story's= about=20 the "nature of love in the modern world=2E" Talk a= bout writing=20 from the heart=2E

-=20 Emmett Williams

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There=20 is no definitive "How-To" book when it comes to maki= ng an=20 indie film and finessing it into distribution=2E What works fo= r one=20 filmmaker may have failed dozens of others=2E Every filmmaker,= successful=20 or not, has his or her story that could fill a book=2E This is= Jerome=20 Courshon's Cliffs Notes version=2E As an aside, Jerom= e refused=20 to reveal how many years this whole process took him=2E His re= sponse=20 to the Rag when asked was, "More than I care to admit=2E&= quot;=20 Anyway, his long, strange trip started when he scripted his fi= rst=20 feature, God, Sex & Apple Pie, and ends happily (= we think=2E=2E=2E)=20 years later, since his comedy-drama, with no bankable names, h= as recently=20 been picked up for distribution by Warner Bros=2E and is now s= eeing=20 the light of day=2E

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Many=20 moons ago, I wrote a script called "God, Sex & Apple = Pie,"=20 an ensemble comedy/drama about a group of friends over a holid= ay weekend=2E=20 It wasn't The Big Chill=2E Or Indian Summer=2E= It was=20 what I wanted: a poignant look at the current generation (my g= eneration),=20 but with edge and depth=2E Though it was my first full-length = screenplay,=20 something told me I had to make it=2E I now think that that &q= uot;something"=20 was naivete, because I had no idea how to produce and soon dis= covered=20 no one wanted to work with a first-time producer=2E Having now= gone=20 through this process, even I would be leery to work with a fir= st-time=20 producer=2E =20

While searching for a producer=20 with experience, I was also working to raise money=2E And fa= iling=20 at that too=2E After three years of looking for funds, I sai= d "enough=20 of this shit" and gave myself an ultimatum: If I didn't= raise=20 the capital in another six months, I would pull together wha= tever=20 I could and just start shooting=2E Which is exactly what hap= pened=2E=20 What did I use for money=3F Why, Visa and Mastercard, of cou= rse=2E Twenty-six=20 of them=2E But because I wanted this to be shot on 35mm, I o= nly had=20 enough lines of credit to get it in the can=2E

Before it was in the can, however, I had my share=20 of problems: directors bowing out, an actor leaving two week= s before=20 principal photography, losing our production manager two wee= ks before=20 shooting=2E It's amazing I don't have gray hair=2E

Shot on location in Lake Tahoe, the 3-week shoot=20 (3 six-day weeks) was not extremely problematic=2E That's a = lie=2E There=20 were a lot of problems, but nobody died and nothing burned d= own,=20 so I consider that not extremely problematic=2E

Once=20 wrapped and back to Los Angeles, the editing began - though = I had=20 no money left=2E Finding completion funding when the rough c= uts are=20 really rough is extremely difficult=2E Investors and distrib= utors=20 cannot extrapolate what your gem will look like when it's do= ne=2E=20 (Don't trust distributors who say they "can" - the= y cannot=2E)

After a significant passage of time I finally was able to ra= ise=20 the funds to get the movie finished=2E No, no more credit ca= rds, but=20 not for lack of trying=2E All my applications were rejected=2E= With=20 the movie completed I showed it to a few distributors, who a= ll passed=2E=20 The prevailing reason: no "stars" in the cast=2E <= /font>

Another=20 tactic: the film festival circuit, the top North American fe= stivals=2E=20 But that didn't happen and finding theatrical distribution w= as looking=20 dim=2E Knowing that theatrical distributors only buy movies = under=20 certain, very specific conditions, I reconciled myself to de= veloping=20 a profile (press, reviews, festival awards, etc) for the mov= ie while=20 hitting the next level of film festivals=2E I figured when I= was done,=20 I might have a shot at something else, such as home video or= cable=2E=20 After God, Sex & Apple Pie began winning festiv= al awards=20 and critical praise, I decided to hold a big screening for a= ll the=20 major distributors in L=2EA=2E Distributors, I knew, do not = buy movies=20 this way, but I thought, "maybe it'll be different for = me=2E"=20 It wasn't=2E

One year and eleven festivals later, I called it=20 quits=2E I was burned out, and so far in debt it wasn't even= remotely=20 funny=2E A couple of drunken stupors and a month or two of r= est later,=20 I was back at it=2E I began to pitch all the home video comp= anies,=20 had a television sales rep pitch the cable companies with an= astonishing=20 result=2E Nearly everyone passed=2E A few bites from a coupl= e video=20 companies, but they couldn't commit=2E Now I was depressed=2E=

I then=20 came to the conclusion - the ultimate decision - that if thi= s movie=20 was ever going to see the light of day, I would have to open= it=20 theatrically in as many cities as I could=2E I felt this was= the only=20 shot I had at changing the movie's prospects=2E So, off I we= nt to=20 raise more money=2E Again!

Putting=20 the movie into theatres yourself is, in fact, as hard as the= y say=20 it is=2E But if "they" tell you not to do it, as s= ome high=20 level industry people told me - including one famous produce= r's=20 rep (there's a character in a movie modeled after him) - ign= ore=20 them=2E They're NOT filmmakers, and they DON'T have what you= have=20 on the line=2E You make the choice - don't let them make it = for you=2E=20 That said, four-walling God, Sex & Apple Pie to= ok enormous=20 time and energy and cash=2E And there's no point in just thr= owing=20 your movie into a theatre and not supporting it=2E This real= ly requires=20 "working it=2E"

Nevertheless,=20 the theatrical exposure was providing some good reviews from= recognizable=20 film critics=2E This, along with positive festival press and= awards,=20 was the critical point which enabled me to finally make some= distribution=20 deals happen=2E I was able to close a Pay-Per-View deal, and= found=20 a contact to a company with a relationship with Warner Bros=2E= Home=20 Video, who are now distributing God, Sex & Apple Pie= =20 on home video and DVD=2E

The=20 bottom line=3F Don't give up if you believe=2E If you've put= years into=20 your movie, what's a couple more=3F You've probably made eno= rmous=20 sacrifices to get your movie this far and into the festival = circuit,=20 you might as well keep going till you arrive at your finish = line=20 or wherever it is you want to go=2E

-=20 Jerome Courshon
www=2EGodSexApplePie=2Ecom

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The=20 Sixth Annual Sarasota Film Festival: Jan 23 - Feb 1, 2004

So what if it's only their sixth year=2E It's one of our fav= es and=20 you only have until November 7th to postmark your submission= =2E The=20 Sarasota Film Festival is a wonderful 10-day festiv= al presenting=20 a non-stop schedule of film premieres and screenings, sympos= iums,=20 seminars, programming for students and families, community o= utreach=20 events and, of course, parties near a beach=2E

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Short Comedies on Broadway
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Have a funny short=3F Let New York's premiere comedy night c= lub CAROLINES=20 put it on Broadway for you=2E

Funny=20 Film Shorts is a monthly festival, consistently scr= eening=20 the finest comedic short films from around the world=2E The = next deadline=20 is December 1=2E

The=20 show sports a comedian host and an all-star panel, consistin= g of=20 filmmakers, comics, and other industry professionals=2E For = more info=20 go to: www=2Ecarolines=2E= com/filmshorts=2Ehtml=20 - however, we kind of like Brandon Mikolaski's snappy e-mail= answers,=20 so click here and email him for further info: bmikolaski@carolines=2Ecom<= /a>



Finding Nemo in France

You want to find Nemo=3F Go to France=2E Hey, we're not kidd= ing=2E The=20 Nemo Festival in Paris, France is dedicated only to= the=20 experimental image=2E This program is so dang flexible it'd = make a=20 dog cleaning itself jealous=2E Interactive documentaries and= fictions,=20 video art, 2D/3D computer graphics, motion graphic design, m= usic=20 videos, electronic visual effects, installations, 'Net art, = audiovisual=20 performances, as well as innovative classic narrative cinema= =2E The=20 next festival runs March 9 to 14, 2004=2E Deadline: December= 18, 2003=2E=20

=20 www=2Efestivalnemo=2Ecom



Cinema Epicuria at Sonoma's B= est Film=20 Festival

Filmmakers, if there's one festival you want to get into it'= s the=20 Sonoma Valley Film Festival=2E No pretensio= n, no=20 Hollywood B=2ES=2E But, lord, the food, the wine, the friend= ly Sonomans=20 (as opposed to the abominable Sonomans) (seriously), and a k= iller=20 film program=2E There's wine served at every meal and for so= me reason=20 you have 10 meals a day while there=2E So lie, cheat, steal,= make=20 friends with festival programmer Chris Gore, or just make a = great=20 film and you'll be in good company=2E

The=20 7th annual Sonoma Valley Film Festival is set for April 1-4,= 2004=2E=20 Deadline: December 31, 2003=2E

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Five'll Get You In: William B= onney's=20 Picture Show

We'll freely admit it=2E We don't know much about Wi= lliam=20 Bonney's Picture Show=2E But from the press we've r= ead it=20 sounds good=2E This aptly named Picture Show is an ongoing f= estival=20 of short- and medium-length works from around the world with= a mandate=20 to share revenue from the door with all participating filmma= kers=2E=20 The Rag senses a new festival trend here; m= ore=20 and more festivals have been doing this=2E

Their=20 entry fees are currently $5 to $7 - designed with one thing = in mind:=20 to be affordable, fair, and respectful to the filmmaker=2E T= he WBPS=20 believes (we know they believe this because it says so in th= eir=20 website) that many festival and screening entry fees are jus= t plain=20 excessive, especially for emerging filmmakers with little or= no=20 PR or festival budgets=2E Festival deadline, January 1, 2004= =2E

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3D"Th= 3D"KeMeK" ------=_NextPart_1593511323947858152943346-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 10:35:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4FZ1v15641; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:35:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4FYYh15479 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:34:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4FYXj15461 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:34:33 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4FYWv15450; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:34:32 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA4FYSpg011822; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:34:28 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hA4FYRBi011820; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:34:27 +0100 To: junq Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103082241.66adee2a.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103202810.4804a377.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031104071506.3d3fc359.junq@ihubbell.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:34:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031104071506.3d3fc359.junq@ihubbell.com> (junq@ihubbell.com's message of "Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:15:06 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , junq writes: >> What makes you think that XAE is a problem? Does the leak fail to >> occur if and only if you comment out the loading of XAE? > > xemacs -q (which bypasses loading of init.el and init.el is where > XAE is loaded) showed no memory growth, Yes, but does your `init.el' do other things beside loading XAE? If that is not the case, I'm curious why you think that XAE (out of all things your init.el might load) is the one responsible. The next logical step would be: `xemacs -q' + load XAE manually + see if the leak occurs, with and without Perl. > So where does this leave us? If you're sure XAE makes a difference, I'll take a look at what it does. But first I'd like to be sure that XAE is to blame. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 11:18:06 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4GI4v30716; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:18:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4GHSR30553 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:17:28 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4GHRe30540 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:17:27 -0500 Received: from ohio.stageserver.net (ohio.stageserver.net [216.180.225.74]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4GHNv30501; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:17:23 -0500 Received: from ip68-6-52-110.sb.sd.cox.net ([68.6.52.110] helo=localhost.localdomain) by ohio.stageserver.net with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.24) id 1AH3rr-0005LI-T5; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:17:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:17:29 -0800 From: junq To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] memory leak Message-Id: <20031104081729.27dfec39.junq@ihubbell.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20031029114905.1c83aa1f.junq@ihubbell.com> <873cdbco12.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031029213013.018c8011.junq@ihubbell.com> <87n0bjdlfy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031030061900.4284eddf.junq@ihubbell.com> <874qxlvq2a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031103063509.7c1a9375.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103082241.66adee2a.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031103202810.4804a377.junq@ihubbell.com> <20031104071506.3d3fc359.junq@ihubbell.com> Organization: junq X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.5claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) User-Agent: Junq Mailer Ver. 20,097,432.312 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ohio.stageserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ihubbell.com X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:34:27 +0100 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > junq writes: > > >> What makes you think that XAE is a problem? Does the leak fail to > >> occur if and only if you comment out the loading of XAE? > > > > xemacs -q (which bypasses loading of init.el and init.el is where > > XAE is loaded) showed no memory growth, > > Yes, but does your `init.el' do other things beside loading XAE? If > that is not the case, I'm curious why you think that XAE (out of all > things your init.el might load) is the one responsible. It doesn't do much, but what do I know about it...? init.el: ;; always end a file with a newline (setq require-final-newline t) ;; don't let `next-line' add new lines in buffer (setq next-line-add-newlines nil) ;; enable wheelmouse support by default (when window-system (mwheel-install)) (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/usr/share/xemacs/site-lisp/xae-1.0beta8/psgml")) (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/usr/share/xemacs/site-lisp/xae-1.0beta8/lisp")) (require 'xae) > > The next logical step would be: `xemacs -q' + load XAE manually + see > if the leak occurs, with and without Perl. > > > So where does this leave us? > > If you're sure XAE makes a difference, I'll take a look at what it > does. But first I'd like to be sure that XAE is to blame. > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 14:59:33 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4JxBv01462; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:59:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4JwMj01288 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:58:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4Jw7501227 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:58:07 -0500 Received: from mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx5.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.32]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4Jw2v01214; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:58:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2B5113; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:57:49 +0100 (NFT) Received: from mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([134.2.12.29]) by localhost (mx5 [134.2.12.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25220-03; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:57:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.50]) by mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E27109E; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:57:47 +0100 (NFT) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hA4JvlSh004433; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:57:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sperber@sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id hA4Jvk6w004432; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:57:46 +0100 (CET) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Call for testers on bytecode fix (GCPRO_STACK/freed lrecord crash) References: <87smm1mika.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewmi0d2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877k38feyu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d6cz8s9v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878ynl4xb3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewb0zqn.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <873cd4tviv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Michael Sperber In-Reply-To: <873cd4tviv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:58:32 +0900") Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:57:46 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090019 (Oort Gnus v0.19) XEmacs/21.5 (cassava, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at informatik.uni-tuebingen.de X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen, you're a hero. I have only very limited machine and Internet access right now, so it'll take me until the weekend until I can try this out. Meanwhile, many thanks for looking into this! -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 4 18:00:53 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4Mw5v00958; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:58:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4MvS500693 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:57:28 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA4MvKj00633 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:57:20 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA4MvJv00623; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:57:19 -0500 Received: from sfwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AHA6t-0000HW-00; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:57:15 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (TWdkqsZF8ehUbCEJNM7TyuuQ2jaAXIjxoRT2DJ7iYjEL7OzEcNIa4g@[80.128.62.52]) by afwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AHA6n-27Jx680; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:57:09 +0100 To: XEmacs Patches Cc: XEmacs Beta , "SunSITE.dk Staff" Subject: [C] xemacsweb: Announce nightly snapshots at http://cvs.xemacs.org/viewcvs.cgi/ X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B X-Generated-By: Patcher version 3.5.1 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:57:35 +0100 Message-ID: <65hz91y8.fsf@smtpmail.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: TWdkqsZF8ehUbCEJNM7TyuuQ2jaAXIjxoRT2DJ7iYjEL7OzEcNIa4g X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , COMMIT Hello James, hello XEmacs-Beta, hello SunSITE.dk! I have made the nightly CVS snapshots more visible now. More work is under way. Best regards, Adrian xemacsweb ChangeLog patch: Diff command: cvs -q diff -U 0 Files affected: Develop/ChangeLog Index: Develop/ChangeLog =================================================================== RCS file: /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/xemacsweb/Develop/ChangeLog,v retrieving revision 1.83 diff -u -U0 -r1.83 ChangeLog --- Develop/ChangeLog 25 Oct 2003 10:06:58 -0000 1.83 +++ Develop/ChangeLog 4 Nov 2003 22:55:22 -0000 @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +2003-11-04 Adrian Aichner + + * xemacscvs.conf (access_instructions): Announce nightly snapshots + at http://cvs.xemacs.org/viewcvs.cgi/ by updating + /pack/viewcvs/0.9.2/kv/. + xemacsweb source patch: Diff command: cvs -f -z3 -q diff -u -N Files affected: Develop/xemacscvs.conf Index: Develop/xemacscvs.conf =================================================================== RCS file: /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/xemacsweb/Develop/xemacscvs.conf,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 xemacscvs.conf --- Develop/xemacscvs.conf 16 Jan 2002 20:33:46 -0000 1.2 +++ Develop/xemacscvs.conf 4 Nov 2003 22:50:33 -0000 @@ -9,6 +9,7 @@
  • XEmacs CVS Repository
  • XEmacs 21 Packages CVS Repository
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    Nightly CVS snapshots are available at http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Download/CVS-snapshots/ as well.

    [images] logo_url = http://sunsite.dk/images/hostedby.png -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 02:11:25 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA57B2v08619; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:11:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA57Av008584 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:10:57 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA57AhF08515 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:10:43 -0500 Received: from web20504.mail.yahoo.com (web20504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.139]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA57Ahv08510 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: <20031105071042.60384.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.7.13.84] by web20504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:10:42 PST Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:10:42 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Ketchersid Subject: Problem with "write-file" C-x C-w on XEmacs 21.4.14 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Whenever I try to use C-x C-w (to rename a file) I get the following error, which I simply can't figure out? I can issue a C-x C-s afterwards and the file will get written, but this is strange behavior and causes problems, e.g. "list and install" breaks as it calls write-file at some point. Signaling: (wrong-number-of-arguments (lambda (list) "$ad-doc: clear-visited-file-modtime$" (let (ad-return-value) (setq ad-return-value (ad-Orig-clear-visited-file-modtime list)) (setq tramp-buffer-file-attributes nil) ad-return-value)) 0) clear-visited-file-modtime() set-visited-file-name("~/plo") #("~/plo" t nil) call-interactively(write-file) ===== Best, Richard Ketchersid From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 02:39:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA57d5v18629; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:39:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA57cVT18440 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:38:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA57cV618433 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:38:31 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA57cUv18426 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 02:38:30 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHIFH-0004zn-00; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:38:27 +0900 To: Richard Ketchersid Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Problem with "write-file" C-x C-w on XEmacs 21.4.14 References: <20031105071042.60384.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:38:26 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20031105071042.60384.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> (Richard Ketchersid's message of "Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:10:42 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87brrrqn7x.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Ketchersid writes: Richard> Signaling: (wrong-number-of-arguments (lambda (list) "$ad-doc: Something you have loaded has in turn advised some functions. The advice is obsolete or broken. You need to find out what package is loading 'advice and what exactly is being advised. Binary search through init.el is one reasonable way. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 06:35:40 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5BZ7v15019; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:35:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5BYZs14842 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:34:35 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5BYTD14802 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:34:29 -0500 Received: from topper.inf.ed.ac.uk (topper.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.32.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5BYNv14780 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:34:27 -0500 Received: from awana.inf.ed.ac.uk (awana.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.155.68]) by topper.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA5BYMr07741 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:34:22 GMT Received: from awana.inf.ed.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awana.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hA5BYMRW008994 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:34:22 GMT Received: (from btg@localhost) by awana.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hA5BYMxt008990; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:34:22 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:34:22 GMT Message-Id: <200311051134.hA5BYMxt008990@awana.inf.ed.ac.uk> From: Ben Golding To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.12] Shell-script mode doesn't handle $# X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! When using Shell-script and font-lock modes (a bash script), the special variable $# is treated as the beginning of a comment (the rest of the line goes blue). ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux porky.devel.redhat.com 2.4.20-2.48bigmem #1 SMP Thu Feb 13 11:31:10 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux ./configure 'i386-redhat-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--libdir=/usr/lib' '--mandir=/usr/share/man/man1' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--with-gpm=no' '--with-sound=native' '--with-pop' '--mail-locking=lockf' '--with-clash-detection' '--debug=no' '--error-checking=none' '--with-mule=yes' '--with-database=berkdb' '--with-ldap=yes' '--with-hesiod=no' '--with-canna=yes' '--with-wnn=yes' '--with-widgets=motif' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-scrollbars=lucid' '--with-dialogs=motif' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-msw=no' '--with-xfs=yes' '--pdump' XEmacs 21.4.12 "Portable Code" configured for `i386-redhat-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/build/225655-i386/BUILD/xemacs-21.4.12 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 -g Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for the WNN input method on Mule. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "lockf" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. 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eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads skk-setup skk-autoloads mule-ucs-autoloads mule-base-autoloads lookup-autoloads locale-autoloads leim-autoloads latin-unity-autoloads egg-its-autoloads edict-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 canna-leim slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp postgresqlv7 postgresql CANNA file-coding wnn mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- BS BS BS SPC a r g u m e n t s SPC m e a n s SPC d o SPC n o t h i n g C-x C-s C-a button1 button1up C-right C-right C-left left left left left BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS $ { # ] BS } SPC = = SPC 0 - BS C-x C-s left left BS BS - e q C-x C-s C-a C-right C-right C-right C-right C-right C-right C-left M-d C-d C-d BS RET RET up C-left C-left C-left C-left down C-e SPC SPC mi sc-user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Unmatched parenthesis. Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Quit Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Wrote /home/btg/TA/print_submissions Loading sh-script...done Loading sh-script... Wrote /home/btg/TA/hours.txt Loading efs-cu...done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 07:05:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5C50v24937; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:05:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5C4Cg24708 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:04:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5C3s224626 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:03:54 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5C3qv24620 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:03:53 -0500 Received: from pd9e60667.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.230.6.103] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AHMO3-0000bM-ID for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:03:47 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AHMQD-000Any-OR for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:06:01 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.5-b16] coredump using Gnus From: Norbert Koch Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:06:01 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! Like the last time, I wanted to visit an article in Gnus. The backtrace is attached. There's no lisp backtrace. norbert. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: FreeBSD redqueen.bytechase.cx 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #6: Sat Nov 1 13:19:34 CET 2003 root@redqueen.bytechase.cx:/scratch/obj/usr/src/sys/REDQUEEN i386 configure '--prefix=/usr/users/nk/pkg-build/xemacs-21.5-mule' '--site-includes=/usr/local/include' '--site-libraries=/usr/local/lib' '--use-kkcc' '--pdump' '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac" (+CVS-20031103) configured for `i386-unknown-freebsd4.9'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/users/nk/cvs/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/users/nk/pkg-build/xemacs-21.5-mule Additional header files: /usr/local/include Additional libraries: /usr/local/lib Runtime library search path: /usr/local/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib Operating system description file: `s/freebsd.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -Wpointer-arith -g -O3 Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using Motif to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "flock" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new GC algorithms. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. 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(localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Da2v22440; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:36:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5DZ1S22169 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:35:01 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5DYmW22100 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:34:48 -0500 Received: from brain.delphioutpost.com ([65.202.186.194]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA5DYmv22094 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:34:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 30099 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Nov 2003 13:34:48 -0000 From: Jeff Mincy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16296.64631.908662.674110@brain.delphioutpost.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:34:47 -0500 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Richard Ketchersid , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Problem with "write-file" C-x C-w on XEmacs 21.4.14 In-Reply-To: <87brrrqn7x.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20031105071042.60384.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <87brrrqn7x.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Wed, 05 Nov 2003, stephen@xemacs.org wrote: >>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Ketchersid writes: > > Richard> Signaling: (wrong-number-of-arguments (lambda (list) "$ad-doc: > > Something you have loaded has in turn advised some functions. The > advice is obsolete or broken. You need to find out what package is > loading 'advice and what exactly is being advised. Binary search > through init.el is one reasonable way. The other way is to looking in the traceback for a hint. ad-return-value (ad-Orig-clear-visited-file-modtime list)) (setq tramp-buffer-file-attributes nil) ad-return-value)) 0) tramp-buffer-file-attributes is from tramp.el. -jeff From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 09:55:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Et2v17240; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:55:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5Esoo17165 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:54:50 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5Esnp17152 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:54:49 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Esnv17148 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:54:49 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19152; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:54:48 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: How is Website Edited? X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com From: Jake Colman Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:54:48 -0500 Message-ID: <76vfpyrhl3.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I am looking to create a series of simple web pages that have a static left-side and content in the middle. Clicking on links in the left-side will change the content displayed in the middle. This is similar to how the XEmacs site is designed (although you have a statoc bottom too). I see that you are using tables, not frames, to create the static area. But did you just type it all in using XEmacs or did you use some tool to assist in the layout and design? -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 09:58:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Ew1v18352; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:58:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5EuVV17819 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:56:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5ErnV16733 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:53:49 -0500 Received: from rent.teradyne.com (rent.teradyne.com [198.51.251.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Eqpv16353 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:52:51 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by rent.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12132 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:53:50 -0500 (EST) From: vin.shelton@teradyne.com Received: from jaypeak.corp.teradyne.com (jaypeak.corp.teradyne.com [131.101.17.23]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA01280 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:51:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [(nowhere)] [Bug: 21.4.13] Wrong frame changes on buffer selection menu To: rogerb@rogerbinns.com, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:48:47 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on JayPeak/Teradyne(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 11/05/2003 09:51:20 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Roger Binns reported this bug: Start Xemacs View -> New Frame Open up a few files Then in the frame that doesn't have focus, click on the buffers menu and select a buffer. Focus gets transferred to the new frame, but the old frame is the one that has the buffer changed. I would expect the buffer to change in the frame whose buffer menu I clicked on. I can confirm this behavior on my native XEmacs (21.4.14+) running on my WinXP box here are work. Apparently, this only happens if you have not previously selected the frame. This problem does not seem to occur under Unix. - Vin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 11:18:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5GF2v19189; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:15:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5GEtM19088 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:14:55 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5GEsp19077 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:14:54 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5GEpv19052 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:14:51 -0500 Received: from sabami.seaslug.org (mail.dsab.rresearch.com[12.212.86.228]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2003110516145001100rtghne>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:14:50 +0000 Received: from sabami.seaslug.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sabami.seaslug.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936241E06 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:14:49 -0800 (PST) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.17872.398548.251947@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> In-reply-to: From: Scott Blachowicz Reply-To: scott.xemacs@mail.dsab.rresearch.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <46824.1068048814.1@sabami.seaslug.org> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:13:34 -0800 Message-Id: <20031105161449.936241E06@sabami.seaslug.org> X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Glynn Clements writes: > > > Scott: I think that you want this: > > > > (setq gnuserv-frame t) > > Yes, that's it. For some reason I thought that gnuclient would still > force creation of its own frame when DISPLAY is not set, but the code > is in fact smarter than I gave it credit for. I have this set now: (defun sab:gnuserv-frame (arg) (if (eq arg 'tty) t) ) (setq gnuserv-frame 'sab:gnuserv-frame) (gnuserv-start) But it doesn't quite do everything I'd like: 1) Run xemacs on X display with the above gnuserv-frame setting, then run gnuclient with DISPLAY set to the same thing -> get new frame for new buffer (no problem). 2) Run xemacs on X display as above. Then run gnuclient from a shell with no DISPLAY setting. The above function returns t (which I verified by dumping the returned value to a separate buffer) and I get my new buffer displayed in the frame that I have on my X display (not good as I'm probably not sitting in front of that X display at the time). 3) Run xemacs on X display, but with gnuserv-frame explicitly set to nil. Then run gnuclient from a shell with no DISPLAY setting. I get my new buffer displayed in my tty as I want. 4) Do #3, then switch to the *shell* buffer I have in the xemacs session and run another 'gnuclient'. I get the error: IO Error: Terminal type undefined (or can't access database?), "emacs" 5) Do #3, #4, then explicitly do (setq gnuserv-frame t) in that *shell* buffer. Now it gives me the buffer displayed in the tty I'm running in with no DISPLAY. Seems like there should be enough clues floating around for it to be able to "do what I want" instead of having to manually change gnuserv-frame to get it to happen. Scott From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 11:56:47 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Gs0v01172; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:54:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5Gr2O00889 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:53:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5Gr1w00880 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:53:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Gr1v00876 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:53:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5Gq4Z00598 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:52:04 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5Gppo00527 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:51:51 -0500 Received: from intranet.chipwrights.com ([64.119.142.107]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Gpov00515 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:51:51 -0500 Received: by intranet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:53:09 -0500 Message-ID: <93A4BBB9515ED411AE9D00508BD955A55FE205@intranet> From: "Bertrand, Dale" To: "'crashes@xemacs.org'" Subject: xemacs crash Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:53:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. If you have access to the PROBLEMS file that came with your version of XEmacs, please check to see if your crash is described there, as there may be a workaround available. Otherwise, please report this bug by running the send-pr script included with XEmacs, or selecting `Send Bug Report' from the help menu. As a last resort send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the information in the command M-x describe-installation. If at all possible, *please* try to obtain a C stack backtrace; it will help us immensely in determining what went wrong. To do this, locate the core file that was produced as a result of this crash (it's usually called `core' and is located in the directory in which you started the editor, or maybe in your home directory), and type gdb /usr/bin/xemacs core then type `where' when the debugger prompt comes up. (If you don't have GDB on your system, you might have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. A similar procedure should work for all of these. Ask your system administrator if you need more help.) Lisp backtrace follows: event-window(#) # bind (frame event) default-mouse-motion-handler(#) # (condition-case ... . error) # (unwind-protect ...) read-minibuffer-internal("Find file: ") byte-code("..." [recursion-depth minibuffer-depth t standard-input standard-output read-minibuffer-internal prompt] 2) # (catch exit ...) # bind (mouse-grabbed-buffer current-prefix-arg minibuffer-history-variable minibuffer-history-position minibuffer-scroll-window) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (_history_ oconfig mconfig frame buffer window oframe owindow dir abbrev-table history readp keymap initial-contents prompt) read-from-minibuffer("Find file: " "~/views/naut_dev/sim/tests/host/" # nil file-name-history) # bind (minibuffer-completion-table minibuffer-completion-predicate minibuffer-completion-confirm last-exact-completion completion-ignore-case insert completer initial-contents must-match default dir prompt history) read-file-name-2(file-name-history "Find file: " nil "/home/dbertrand/views/naut_dev/sim/tests/host/host_master_boot.cc" nil nil read-file-name-internal) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (rfhookfun completer initial-contents must-match default dir prompt history) read-file-name-1(file-name-history "Find file: " nil "/home/dbertrand/views/naut_dev/sim/tests/host/host_master_boot.cc" nil nil read-file-name-internal) # bind (history initial-contents must-match default dir prompt) read-file-name("Find file: " nil nil nil) call-interactively(find-file) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 13:10:57 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5I89v00698; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:08:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5I7gx00520 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:07:42 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5I7T000440 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:07:29 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5I7Tv00436 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:07:29 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23123; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:07:23 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: func-menu problem X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com From: Jake Colman Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:07:23 -0500 Message-ID: <76n0bar8o4.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , func-menu gets confused with a c++ method definition that appears as follows: tTree* cAcctXtrPosition::generateLedgerBalances( tTree* Balances, cChartOfAccounts* Charts, hConst BatchStatus, cScriptInterpretor* Interpretor, int jeGenDebug ) throw( cException& ) { } Apparently, having the return type on a line before the method name confuses it such that it does not know the name of the method. Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this? -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 14:04:47 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5J21v27032; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:02:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5J1Gx26707 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:01:16 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5J16326624 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:01:06 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5J10v26581; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:01:04 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AHStn-0000I0-00; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:00:59 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (Sx+d3ZZrQeCeGH3O0nhP-e6PJU3HSCxKG2PUq6RDWJ-y+cruCYa6rI@[80.128.56.54]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AHStc-1AYzAm0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:00:48 +0100 To: dugdale@sm.luth.se Cc: XEmacs Beta List , jaalto@xemacs.org Subject: Status of your Emacs contributions? X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:01:16 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: Sx+d3ZZrQeCeGH3O0nhP-e6PJU3HSCxKG2PUq6RDWJ-y+cruCYa6rI X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hello Anders! My link testing for http://www.xemacs.org led me to notice following failing URLs: /Download/elispPackages.html had 6 failed urls http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml#ctypes not found (404) http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml#folding not found (404) http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml#follow not found (404) http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml#revert not found (404) http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml not found (404) See http://www.dk.xemacs.org/linklint/urlfailF.html for details. I would be greatful if you could drop us a line whether you are still maintaining any of these Emacs modes. If not, it would be great if you could point us to any new maintainers that have gone ungoogled. Thanks in advance, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 14:20:49 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5JI1v02615; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:18:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5JHue02554 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:17:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5JHtW02541 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:17:55 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5JHfv02419; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:17:42 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AHT9u-0005jD-00; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:17:38 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (XVulaYZv8eeXPHArEKgaOGUFWJBMzaJpA1wZutV17j5E+SDCEtRkrt@[80.128.56.54]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AHT9q-1lKacC0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:17:34 +0100 To: Jake Colman Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: How is Website Edited? X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:18:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: <76vfpyrhl3.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> (Jake Colman's message of "Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:54:48 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: XVulaYZv8eeXPHArEKgaOGUFWJBMzaJpA1wZutV17j5E+SDCEtRkrt X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jake" == Jake Colman writes: Jake> I am looking to create a series of simple web pages that Jake> have a static left-side and content in the middle. Clicking Jake> on links in the left-side will change the content displayed Jake> in the middle. This is similar to how the XEmacs site is Jake> designed (although you have a statoc bottom too). I see Jake> that you are using tables, not frames, to create the static Jake> area. But did you just type it all in using XEmacs or did Jake> you use some tool to assist in the layout and design? Hi Jake! http://www.xemacs.org/About/Website.html should answer almost all of your questions. I welcome any feedback to improve that documentation. BTW, website contributors are also welcome. Currently 39 people are able to commit, but hardly a handful of people actually contribute. Not a complaint, just a piece of data. See http://www.xemacs.org/About/Website.html#CCAvS I'd like to replace the use of genpage with XML/XSLT/mySQL or similar but haven't found the time to investigate deeply into this direction. Best regards, Adrian Jake> -- Jake> Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 14:27:48 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5JP1v05907; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:25:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5JO3C05480 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:24:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5JNtK05415 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:23:55 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5JNpv05399; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:23:51 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AHTFu-00051B-01; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:23:50 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (Vypqi2Zlwe-9IVcxvjuRSHw3RzuMCS-PY4jHo7w2nrYNU8ISt-c+g1@[80.128.56.54]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AHTFp-1zHxWi0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:23:45 +0100 To: andersl@csd.uu.se Cc: XEmacs Beta List , jaalto@xemacs.org Subject: Status of your Emacs contributions? X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:24:15 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: Vypqi2Zlwe-9IVcxvjuRSHw3RzuMCS-PY4jHo7w2nrYNU8ISt-c+g1 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hello Anders! My link testing for http://www.xemacs.org led me to notice following failing URLs: /Download/elispPackages.html had 6 failed urls http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml#ctypes not found (404) http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml#folding not found (404) http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml#follow not found (404) http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml#revert not found (404) http://www.csd.uu.se/~andersl/emacs.shtml not found (404) See http://www.dk.xemacs.org/linklint/urlfailF.html for details. I would be greatful if you could drop us a line whether you are still maintaining any of these Emacs modes. If not, it would be great if you could point us to any new maintainers that have gone ungoogled. Thanks in advance, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 14:30:42 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5JS0v07155; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:28:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5JRvI07127 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:27:57 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5JRux07119 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:27:56 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (turing-police.cc.vt.edu [128.173.14.107]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5JRuv07115 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:27:56 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id hA5JRopL008208; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:27:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200311051927.hA5JRopL008208@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: scott.xemacs@mail.dsab.rresearch.com Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:13:34 PST." <20031105161449.936241E06@sabami.seaslug.org> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.17872.398548.251947@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> <20031105161449.936241E06@sabami.seaslug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1760362592P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:27:50 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-1760362592P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:13:34 PST, Scott Blachowicz said: > I have this set now: > > (defun sab:gnuserv-frame (arg) > (if (eq arg 'tty) t) > ) > (setq gnuserv-frame 'sab:gnuserv-frame) > (gnuserv-start) > > But it doesn't quite do everything I'd like: The problem is that although there's enough clues, not enough of the clues are passed to your gnuserv-frame function, which is only handed a 'x or a 'tty. My pet peev is that DISPLAY isn't available (which has bit me a few times, if I'm SSH'ed into a net-slow box I probably want 'use an existing frame on THIS display' semantics (as opening a whole new frame may take 10-15 seconds). And as you noted in (2), using the value of DISPLAY that the XEmacs end has is Totally Wrong, since you may not even be in the same time zone. ;) --==_Exmh_-1760362592P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/qU82cC3lWbTT17ARAgEYAJ9ary4XVjK50QcIeFq6E6o65hPc4ACgpLW7 E8oF5NARDrIZElSgNOdm/yk= =AfWL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1760362592P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 15:14:53 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5KC6v27771; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:12:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5KBME27484 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:11:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5KBBK27367 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:11:11 -0500 Received: from mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (mta6-svc.business.ntl.com [62.253.164.46]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5KB5v27342 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:11:06 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.1.46]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031105201104.VHXA21828.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:11:04 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hA5JYeI01334; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:34:40 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16297.20688.656764.835591@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:34:40 +0000 To: scott.xemacs@mail.dsab.rresearch.com Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? In-Reply-To: <20031105161449.936241E06@sabami.seaslug.org> References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.17872.398548.251947@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> <20031105161449.936241E06@sabami.seaslug.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Scott Blachowicz wrote: > > > Scott: I think that you want this: > > > > > > (setq gnuserv-frame t) > > > > Yes, that's it. For some reason I thought that gnuclient would still > > force creation of its own frame when DISPLAY is not set, but the code > > is in fact smarter than I gave it credit for. > > I have this set now: > > (defun sab:gnuserv-frame (arg) > (if (eq arg 'tty) t) > ) > (setq gnuserv-frame 'sab:gnuserv-frame) > (gnuserv-start) > > But it doesn't quite do everything I'd like: > > 1) Run xemacs on X display with the above gnuserv-frame setting, then run > gnuclient with DISPLAY set to the same thing -> get new frame for new > buffer (no problem). > > 2) Run xemacs on X display as above. Then run gnuclient from a shell with no > DISPLAY setting. The above function returns t (which I verified by > dumping the returned value to a separate buffer) and I get my new buffer > displayed in the frame that I have on my X display (not good as I'm > probably not sitting in front of that X display at the time). > > 3) Run xemacs on X display, but with gnuserv-frame explicitly set to nil. > Then run gnuclient from a shell with no DISPLAY setting. I get my new > buffer displayed in my tty as I want. > > 4) Do #3, then switch to the *shell* buffer I have in the xemacs session and > run another 'gnuclient'. I get the error: > IO Error: Terminal type undefined (or can't access database?), "emacs" > > 5) Do #3, #4, then explicitly do (setq gnuserv-frame t) in that *shell* > buffer. Now it gives me the buffer displayed in the tty I'm running in > with no DISPLAY. > > Seems like there should be enough clues floating around for it to be able to > "do what I want" instead of having to manually change gnuserv-frame to get it > to happen. Obviously, XEmacs has no way to tell whether you're actually sitting in front of the X display, although it may be possible to infer this from the terminal type (i.e. if it's "emacs", you're probably are; at least, if you aren't you're stuffed, because XEmacs can't create a new frame within a shell-mode buffer). There isn't any official mechanism by which your function can obtain the terminal type. However, due to dynamic scoping you can get this information from the variable "type", e.g. (defun sab:gnuserv-frame (arg) (not (and (eq arg 'tty) (not (string= (caddr type) "emacs"))))) -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 15:25:48 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5KN1v00426; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:23:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5KLmZ32423 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:21:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5KLmT32415 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:21:48 -0500 Received: from forthnet.gr (athmta05.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.26]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5KLjv32395 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:21:46 -0500 Received: from wseas.org (ppp1-adsl-21.ath.forthnet.gr [213.16.180.21]) by forthnet.gr (8.12.2-20030919/8.12.2) with SMTP id hA5KLgB1009603 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:21:43 +0200 Message-Id: <200311052021.hA5KLgB1009603@forthnet.gr> From: "Katerina Tsironi" To: Subject: 4th WSEAS International Conference on MATHEMATICS AND COMPUTERS IN BIOLOGY AND CHEMISTRY (MCBC'03) with special emphasis on: BIOENGINEERING, MOLECULAR BIOLOGY, MATHEMATICAL BIOLOGY, BIOCHEMISTRY, BIOPHYSICS, COMPUTER BIOLOGY, BIOLOGICAL DYNAMICAL SYSTEMS, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:21:36 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , WSEAS will reply to you only if you write the word: WSEAS somewhere in the Subject of your message, In case that you forgot it, unfortunately, there is not any automatic reply or warning! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EXTENDED DEADLINE: Nov.15, 2003 FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO YOUR MAILING LISTS PLEASE! 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 15:58:46 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Ku1v15369; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:56:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5KtbT15187 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:55:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5KtOg15097 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:55:24 -0500 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5KtNv15083; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:55:23 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AHUgQ-0003yB-01; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:55:18 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (VUeUlvZlQeWqlDh9ICsXGEX3+Ejtpaq2PjHXK4dfULUEEXNku-Nbr3@[80.128.56.54]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AHUgJ-0Jge6C0; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:55:11 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Darryl Okahata , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: NEWS entries for packages? X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <87d6cijczn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:55:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87d6cijczn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:46:20 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: VUeUlvZlQeWqlDh9ICsXGEX3+Ejtpaq2PjHXK4dfULUEEXNku-Nbr3 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: Stephen> As for freshmeat, I perfectly understand why Darryl is Stephen> not volunteering. I wouldn't either---I did some Stephen> freshmeat work early in the 21.4 series, and I have to Stephen> say it was a massive PITA because you had to do it via Stephen> web, the freshmeat system was flatlined[1], and on top of Stephen> that somebody not directly associated with the core set Stephen> up a freshmeat account for XEmacs and then disappeared. Stephen> (I think Adrian resolved that last issue, but I haven't Stephen> noticed any great enthusiasm for freshmeat stuff.) Yes, I have the freshmeat password and some others do too, but nobody can prove to care :-) Stephen> Does anybody have a script that auto-updates freshmeat entries? Not me. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 16:50:45 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Lm1v05693; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5LlkS05580 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:47:46 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5Lljb05567 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:47:45 -0500 Received: from bas.flux.utah.edu (bas.flux.utah.edu [155.98.60.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5Lljv05562 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:47:45 -0500 Received: from beryl.flux.utah.edu (beryl.flux.utah.edu [155.98.60.73]) by bas.flux.utah.edu (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id hA5LliLj030067 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:47:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from eeide@flux.utah.edu) Received: from beryl.flux.utah.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beryl.flux.utah.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5Llivj006068 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:47:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from eeide@beryl.flux.utah.edu) Received: (from eeide@localhost) by beryl.flux.utah.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hA5LlhZj006065; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:47:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from eeide) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:47:44 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200311052147.hA5LlhZj006065@beryl.flux.utah.edu> From: Eric Eide To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.12] Errors in Help Code X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! In `help.el', functions `Help-princ-face' and `Help-prin1-face', look at the default cases: (defun Help-princ-face (object face) (cond (...) (t princ object))) That last line should be: (t (princ object)))) A similar change is needed for `Help-prin1-face'. Eric. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: FreeBSD beryl 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Tue Aug 12 13:29:47 MDT 2003 kwebb@beryl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/UTAHUP i386 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 17:10:58 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5M8Bv14390; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:08:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5M6YR13822 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:06:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5M6Xt13810 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:06:33 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5M6Wv13805 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:06:32 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04792; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:06:31 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: How is Website Edited? X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com References: <76vfpyrhl3.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> From: Jake Colman Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:06:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:18:05 +0100") Message-ID: <76brrqqxlk.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: APA> http://www.xemacs.org/About/Website.html APA> should answer almost all of your questions. How did you create the initial template.html file? Did you have to figure out how to use html tables or did you jave a tool do that for you too? -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 17:21:48 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5MJ1v19075; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:19:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5MILv18865 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:18:21 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5MIKM18855 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:18:20 -0500 Received: from smtp3.pp.htv.fi (smtp3.pp.htv.fi [213.243.153.173]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5MIKv18842 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:18:20 -0500 Received: from posti.pp.htv.fi (posti.pp.htv.fi [212.90.64.50]) by smtp3.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684E427B6C7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:18:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from cs78134079.pp.htv.fi (cs78134079.pp.htv.fi [62.78.134.79]) by posti.pp.htv.fi (8.11.1 (Revision 1.5+JAGae91741+JAGae92668) /8.11.1) with ESMTP id hA5MIJN22554 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:18:19 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: How is Website Edited? From: Ville =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Skytt=E4?= To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: <76brrqqxlk.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> References: <76vfpyrhl3.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <76brrqqxlk.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Message-Id: <1068070698.27998.78.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 00:18:18 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 00:06, Jake Colman wrote: > >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: > > APA> http://www.xemacs.org/About/Website.html > APA> should answer almost all of your questions. > > How did you create the initial template.html file? Did you have to figure > out how to use html tables or did you jave a tool do that for you too? Don't use tables for layout, instead focus on document structure and use CSS for presentation. Lots of related information at http://www.w3.org/WAI/gettingstarted/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 19:02:46 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6002v23378; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:00:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5Nxk423222 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:59:46 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5Nxfb23191 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:59:41 -0500 Received: from bas.flux.utah.edu (bas.flux.utah.edu [155.98.60.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5NxZv23156 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:59:35 -0500 Received: from beryl.flux.utah.edu (beryl.flux.utah.edu [155.98.60.73]) by bas.flux.utah.edu (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id hA5NxYLj036755 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:59:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from eeide@flux.utah.edu) Received: from beryl.flux.utah.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beryl.flux.utah.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA5NxYvj035573 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:59:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from eeide@beryl.flux.utah.edu) Received: (from eeide@localhost) by beryl.flux.utah.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hA5NxY76035570; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:59:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from eeide) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:59:34 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200311052359.hA5NxY76035570@beryl.flux.utah.edu> From: Eric Eide To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.12] X Resources: Pointer Shape Resources Have No Effect X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! In my `.Xresources' file, I have the following: xemacs*textPointer: left_ptr xemacs*selectionPointer: left_ptr xemacs*spacePointer: plus xemacs*modeLinePointer: left_ptr xemacs*scrollbarPointer: left_ptr xemacs*gcPointer: exchange These have had the intended effect for a long time now, up through XEmacs 21.1.14. But now I'm updating to XEmacs 21.4.12, and I only ever get the text pointer shape now, apparently because "left_ptr" is the default. If I look at the relevant Lisp variables, I see that my resources (apparently) had no effect. For example: x-nontext-pointer-shape --> #0x8d1> x-gc-pointer-shape --> #0x2c8> x-pointer-shape --> #0x8c8> Note that even the text pointer resource has no useful value. Are my resources malformed (after all these years), or is XEmacs 21.4 not parsing them correctly? Eric. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: FreeBSD beryl 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Tue Aug 12 13:29:47 MDT 2003 kwebb@beryl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/UTAHUP i386 ./configure '--with-clash-detection' '--with-sound=native,nonas,noesd' '--site-includes=/usr/local/include' '--site-libraries=/usr/local/lib' '--with-ldap=no' '--with-site-lisp' '--with-database=berkdb' '--x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib' '--x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include' '--prefix=/usr/local' 'i386--freebsd' XEmacs 21.4.12 "Portable Code" configured for `i386--freebsd'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /z/ports/editors/xemacs/work/xemacs-21.4.12 Installation prefix: /usr/local Additional header files: /usr/local/include Additional libraries: /usr/local/lib Runtime library search path: /usr/local/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib Operating system description file: `s/freebsd.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: cc -O -pipe Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes Linking with `-z nocombreloc'. - Consider configuring with --pdump. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "flock" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. 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:type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.23 :type regular) (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.6 :type regular) (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (efs :version 1.29 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.18 :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.1 :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.13 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.39 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 info xrdb-mode vm-crypto vm-minibuf vm-pop browse-url bbdb-xemacs mail-extr vm-page vm-mime vm-save tapestry vm-motion vm-undo vm-toolbar vm-sort vm-summary vm-thread vm-message vm-menu vm-folder vm-misc vm-mouse vm-window vm-hacks vm-reply bbdb-hacks bbdb-com bbdb-vm bbdb t vm-autoload highlight-headers vm-vars vm-startup vm-version vm copyright framepop igrep compile-fix compile cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles cc-langs cc-vars wid-edit cc-menus imenu cc-defs idl-font-lock font-lock pop3-hacks pop3 mail-utils vc-y2k vc vc-hooks blink-extras blink-paren func-menu filladapt crypt crypt++ backup diff diff-mode advice advice-preload dired-faces dired-xemacs dired comint ring complete scroll-in-place time cus-face emacs-vers zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type berkeley-unix devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-x 2 C-x o C-x b * s c r TAB RET x - n o n t e x t - p o i n t e r - s h a p e C-j C-n x - g c - p o i n t e r - s h a p e C-j x - p o i n t e r - s h a o e C-j C-p C-e C-b BS DEL p C-e C-j M-x r e p - x - b u g TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Parsing /home/eeide/.mailrc... itimer "vm-check-mail" quit Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... itimer "vm-check-mail" quit itimer "vm-check-mail" quit itimer "vm-check-mail" quit itimer "vm-check-mail" quit Selecting menu item Resource List...done Selecting menu item Resource List... Selecting menu item X Resources...done Selecting menu item X Resources... Selecting menu item XEmacs...done Selecting menu item XEmacs... itimer "vm-check-mail" quit Composing main Info directory...done Creating temporary dir in /.a/nfast/users/eeide/share/info/...done (New file) Creating temporary dir in /.a/nfast/users/eeide/share/info/... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Eide . University of Utah School of Computing http://www.cs.utah.edu/~eeide/ . +1 (801) 585-5512 voice, +1 (801) 581-5843 FAX From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 20:14:00 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA61B9v16861; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:11:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA61APm16659 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:10:25 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA61AOw16641 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:10:24 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA61ANv16637 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:10:24 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHYfA-0008Ih-00; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:10:16 +0900 To: Norbert Koch Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.5-b16] coredump using Gnus References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:10:16 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:06:01 +0100") Message-ID: <87n0bamhdz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "viteno" == Norbert Koch writes: viteno> Like the last time, I wanted to visit an article in Gnus. viteno> The backtrace is attached. There's no lisp backtrace. Is this _with_ my recent patch? :-( Ma-a-a-a-ayke! *Mike*! :-P -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 20:17:43 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA61F0v17954; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:15:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA61Cgh17289 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:12:42 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA61Cf917281 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:12:41 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA61Cev17275 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:12:41 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHYhQ-0008J1-00; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:12:36 +0900 To: Jeff Mincy Cc: Richard Ketchersid , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Problem with "write-file" C-x C-w on XEmacs 21.4.14 References: <20031105071042.60384.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com> <87brrrqn7x.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <16296.64631.908662.674110@brain.delphioutpost.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:12:36 +0900 In-Reply-To: <16296.64631.908662.674110@brain.delphioutpost.com> (Jeff Mincy's message of "Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:34:47 -0500") Message-ID: <87islymha3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Mincy writes: Jeff> The other way is to looking in the traceback for a hint. ad-return-value (ad-Orig-clear-visited-file-modtime list)) (setq tramp-buffer-file-attributes nil) ad-return-value)) 0) Jeff> tramp-buffer-file-attributes is from tramp.el. I don't understand. The problem is evidently with the advised function, and advice can happen anywhere, even before tramp is loaded (after-load-hook). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 21:52:54 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA62o9v13363; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA62nDJ13110 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:49:13 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA62mwb13056 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:58 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA62muv13047 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:48:56 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHaCK-0008Tv-00; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:48:36 +0900 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: scott.xemacs@mail.dsab.rresearch.com, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.17872.398548.251947@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> <20031105161449.936241E06@sabami.seaslug.org> <200311051927.hA5JRopL008208@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:48:36 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200311051927.hA5JRopL008208@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (Valdis Kletnieks's message of "Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:27:50 -0500") Message-ID: <87ekwmmcu3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Valdis" == Valdis Kletnieks writes: Valdis> My pet peev is that DISPLAY isn't available (which has bit Valdis> me a few times, if I'm SSH'ed into a net-slow box I Valdis> probably want 'use an existing frame on THIS display' Valdis> semantics (as opening a whole new frame may take 10-15 Valdis> seconds). And as you noted in (2), using the value of Valdis> DISPLAY that the XEmacs end has is Totally Wrong, since Valdis> you may not even be in the same time zone. ;) This sounds like a job for ... Specifierman! Except that there's no 'ssh-d-into-a-net-slow-box display type. It sounds like something that would be worth taking a hack at. What kind of API do you need? Ie, suppose there were a variable `gnuclient-environmental-conditions'. What kinds of questions would you want to ask it, and what kinds of answers do you want in what conditions? Or maybe gnuclient should somehow intervene in the environment that getenv sees? (That's too evil to actually implement I suspect, but it might suggest something more appropriate.) Maybe there could be a display-local environment process environment? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 21:56:43 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA62s0v14327; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:54:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA62ojG13518 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:45 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA62oi013508 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:44 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA62ohv13501 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:50:43 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHaEE-0008U0-00; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:50:34 +0900 To: "Bertrand, Dale" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: xemacs crash References: <93A4BBB9515ED411AE9D00508BD955A55FE205@intranet> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:50:34 +0900 In-Reply-To: <93A4BBB9515ED411AE9D00508BD955A55FE205@intranet> (Dale Bertrand's message of "Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:53:08 -0500") Message-ID: <87ad7amcqt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Dale" == Dale Bertrand writes: Dale> Fatal error (11). What version and configuration of XEmacs are you running? (M-x report-xemacs-bug) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 22:27:06 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA63R1v24976; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:27:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA63Q8B24724 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:26:08 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA63Q6j24706 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:26:06 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA63Q3v24686 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:26:03 -0500 Received: from sabami.seaslug.org (mail.dsab.rresearch.com[12.212.86.228]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20031106032603011003j8eue>; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 03:26:03 +0000 Received: by sabami.seaslug.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2FD7F1DD7; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:26:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:26:00 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? Message-ID: <20031106032559.GB71297@sabami.seaslug.org> Reply-To: Scott Blachowicz References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.17872.398548.251947@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> <20031105161449.936241E06@sabami.seaslug.org> <200311051927.hA5JRopL008208@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <87ekwmmcu3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ekwmmcu3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:48:36AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > This sounds like a job for ... Specifierman! > > Except that there's no 'ssh-d-into-a-net-slow-box display type. > > It sounds like something that would be worth taking a hack at. What > kind of API do you need? Ie, suppose there were a variable > `gnuclient-environmental-conditions'. What kinds of questions would > you want to ask it, and what kinds of answers do you want in what > conditions? Doesn't having gnuclient pass it's process id, hostname, $DISPLAY value and tty to xemacs give enough info? Then, the gnuserv side could do something like: if client has usable DISPLAY { if (gnuserv-frame 'x) { if client DISPLAY == server DISPLAY { use server's gnuserv frame } else { create new frame on client DISPLAY and use that } } else { create new frame on client DISPLAY and use that } } ;; Creating new frame on client DISPLAY could have failed due to xauth, ;; xhost, etc. if new frame creation failed OR client has no usable DISPLAY { if xemacs & gnuclient are running on the same host AND xemacs process is an ancestor of gnuclient, then use the "current frame" else take over client's tty and use that } if all that failed, then can't do the gnuclient; Does that cover all the bases? > Or maybe gnuclient should somehow intervene in the environment that > getenv sees? (That's too evil to actually implement I suspect, but it > might suggest something more appropriate.) Maybe there could be a > display-local environment process environment? ?? Scott From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 5 22:33:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA63X0v27166; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:33:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA63WxU27141 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:32:59 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA63Wm027097 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:32:48 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (h80ad2581.async.vt.edu [128.173.37.129]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA63Wkv27083; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:32:47 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id hA63Wgf4008406; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:32:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200311060332.hA63Wgf4008406@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: scott.xemacs@mail.dsab.rresearch.com, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient from within a tty shell mode? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:48:36 +0900." <87ekwmmcu3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <20031029071855.GA40582@sabami.seaslug.org> <873cd7wc5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20031102171040.GB73107@sabami.seaslug.org> <16293.17872.398548.251947@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> <20031105161449.936241E06@sabami.seaslug.org> <200311051927.hA5JRopL008208@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <87ekwmmcu3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1543781134P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:32:42 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-1543781134P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:48:36 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" said: > It sounds like something that would be worth taking a hack at. What > kind of API do you need? Ie, suppose there were a variable > `gnuclient-environmental-conditions'. What kinds of questions would > you want to ask it, and what kinds of answers do you want in what > conditions? > Or maybe gnuclient should somehow intervene in the environment that > getenv sees? (That's too evil to actually implement I suspect, but it > might suggest something more appropriate.) Maybe there could be a > display-local environment process environment? Actually, it's easier than that, at least for all the cases that I was worried about. From gnuserv.el, line 426: TYPE should either be a (tty TTY TERM PID) list, or (x DISPLAY) list. Hey lookie all that neat info in TYPE ;) So a few lines later: (dest-frame (if (functionp gnuserv-frame) (funcall gnuserv-frame (car type)) gnuserv-frame)) We pass (car type), when (type) would be much more useful. I played around with having gnuserv-frame return a lambda that would evaluate type and DTRT, but never got all the quoting to work out so it would evaluate later... Of course, the next lines explain why it's busticated: ;; The gnuserv-frame dependencies are ugly, but it's ;; extremely hard to make that stuff cleaner without ;; breaking everything in sight. Oh well. --==_Exmh_-1543781134P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/qcDacC3lWbTT17ARAo2qAKDL8PzSfF+S3gmXNs09PhrXa15RSQCgqnlX N/Miy3PZyEN9p3fBrzt8byQ= =4t66 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1543781134P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 6 00:25:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA65P3v29942; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:25:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA65Ofs29805 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:24:41 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA65OdJ29793 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:24:39 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA65Obv29770; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:24:37 -0500 Received: from pd951895f.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.137.95] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AHcdH-00091r-R0; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 06:24:35 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AHcfU-000CGO-2Y; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 06:26:52 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.5-b16] coredump using Gnus References: <87n0bamhdz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO, XEmacs Beta Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 06:26:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87n0bamhdz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:10:16 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Is this _with_ my recent patch? :-( Yup, sorry to say so ... > Ma-a-a-a-ayke! *Mike*! :-P :-) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 6 05:39:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6Ad1v20308; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:39:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6AcmT20149 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:38:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6AciD20101 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:38:44 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA6Aciv20077 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:38:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 19225 invoked by uid 65534); 6 Nov 2003 10:38:37 -0000 Received: from hmbg-d9b890f6.pool.mediaWays.net (EHLO hmbg-d9b890f6.pool.mediaWays.net) (217.184.144.246) by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 06 Nov 2003 11:38:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1773227 From: Olaf Meltzer To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: xemacs doesn't like "\" anymore Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:38:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_WSiq/PqG1MP0gUA" Message-Id: <200311061138.14101.olaf.meltzer@gmx.de> X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --Boundary-00=_WSiq/PqG1MP0gUA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, reporting strange behaviour of xemacs 21.4.12 in comp.emacs.xemacs, Stephen J. Turnbull told me to send you the output of M-x describe-installation generated (a) with SuSE 8.2 binaries (b) with my self-compiled xemacs Both are version 21.4.12. The problem I reported in comp.emacs.xemacs was as follows: I'm used to german keyboard layout. So I have to press AltGr-ß to get a "\". For years this was no problem for xemacs, but after migration to SuSE 8.2, when I press the key AltGr for the first time after I launched xemacs, the Backtrace-buffer pops up, xemacs beeps and lies Signaling: (undefined-keystroke-sequence [#]) This *is* a lie, since after switching back from backtrace to text-buffer, the next time I press AltGr-ß, xemacs gives me the "\", beeping (sigh), but without popping up the Backtrace-buffer again. The problem is *not* showing up, when I install the binaries delivered with SuSE 8.2. To compile my own version I took sources from xemacs.org, which I had downloaded some month ago to use them with SuSE 8.0 without problems. My intention to compile my own version was to get the GTK-Wigdets (better open-file dialog etc.). Enclosed are the installation-files from SuSE-version and my own compilation. Sincerely -- Olaf Meltzer -- Olaf Meltzer, Im Fliederbusch 31, 22589 Hamburg Telefon +49-40-871146 Mobil +49-179-3669047 Fax: +49-40-871146 Email: olaf.meltzer@gmx.de --Boundary-00=_WSiq/PqG1MP0gUA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="xemacs_inst_om" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xemacs_inst_om" uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon #1 Mon Mar 17 17:56:47 UTC 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux ./configure '--with-gtk' '--with-mule' '--with-file-coding' '--with-clash-detection' '--debug=no' XEmacs 21.4.12 "Portable Code" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/om/download/xemacs/xemacs21.4.12/xemacs-21.4.12 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Using GTK menubars. Using GTK scrollbars. Using GTK dialog boxes. Using GTK native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for file coding. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. --Boundary-00=_WSiq/PqG1MP0gUA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="xemacs_inst_suse" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xemacs_inst_suse" uname -a: Linux E120 2.4.20 #1 SMP Sat Mar 1 05:02:33 UTC 2003 i686 unknown= unknown GNU/Linux =2E/configure 'i386-suse-linux' '--with-gcc' '--dynamic' '--rel-alloc' '--= debug=3Dno' '--error-checking=3Dnone' '--cflags=3D-O2 -march=3Di586 -mcpu= =3Di686 -fmessage-length=3D0 -Wall -Wno-switch -pipe -O2 -march=3Di586 -mcp= u=3Di686 -fmessage-length=3D0' '--ldflags=3D-s -znocombreloc' '--prefix=3D/= usr' '--exec-prefix=3D/usr' '--bindir=3D/usr/X11R6/bin' '--datadir=3D/usr/s= hare' '--archlibdir=3D/usr/lib/xemacs/21.4.12/i386-suse-linux' '--docdir=3D= /usr/lib/xemacs/21.4.12/i386-suse-linux' '--lispdir=3D/usr/share/xemacs/21.= 4.12/lisp' '--pkgdir=3D/usr/share/xemacs/21.4.12/lisp' '--etcdir=3D/usr/sha= re/xemacs/21.4.12/etc' '--statedir=3D/var/lib/xemacs' '--moduledir=3D/usr/l= ib/xemacs/21.4.12/i386-suse-linux/modules' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/xemacs/i= nfo' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man/man1' '--with-sound=3Dnative' '--with-datab= ase=3Dgnudbm,berkdb' '--with-ncurses' '--with-tty=3Dyes' '--with-gpm' '--wi= th-site-lisp' '--pdump' '--with-xpm' '--with-gif' '--with-tiff' '--with-jpe= g' '--with-png' '--with-x' '--with-athena=3D3d' '--with-menubars=3Dlucid' '= =2D-with-scrollbars=3Dlucid' '--with-dialogs=3Dathena' '--with-widgets=3Dat= hena' '--x-includes=3D/usr/X11R6/include' '--x-libraries=3D/usr/X11R6/lib' = '--with-mule' '--with-xim=3Dxlib' '--with-xfs' '--with-clash-detection' '--= with-ldap' '--with-pop' XEmacs 21.4.12 "Portable Code" configured for `i386-suse-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/packages/BUILD/xemacs-21.4.12 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -march=3Di586 -mcpu=3Di686 -fm= essage-length=3D0 -Wall -Wno-switch -pipe -O2 -march=3Di586 -mcpu=3Di686 -f= message-length=3D0 Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw3d - Athena library to link: Xaw3d Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for the WNN input method on Mule. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. --Boundary-00=_WSiq/PqG1MP0gUA-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 6 05:51:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6Ap2v31570; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:51:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6AoUE31147 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:50:30 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6AoE330942 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:50:14 -0500 Received: from e32.co.us.ibm.com (e32.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.130]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6Ao9v30883 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:50:09 -0500 Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e32.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hA6Ao8kF086056 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:50:08 -0500 Received: from austin.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.193.82]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.9/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id hA6Ao7j8280300 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 03:50:07 -0700 Received: from login-2.austin.ibm.com (login-2.austin.ibm.com [9.41.248.166]) by austin.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6Ao7lS105890 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 04:50:07 -0600 Received: from ns (ns.parislab.fr.ibm.com [9.101.40.87]) by login-2.austin.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3p2/8.7-client1.01) with ESMTP id EAA27668 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 04:49:21 -0600 Received: from (figue) [9.101.41.22] (mail) by ns with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHhiE-0002ai-00; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:50:02 +0100 Received: from jqd by figue with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHhiC-0002f7-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:50:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:50:00 +0100 From: Jany Quintard To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: strange behaviour under Linux/psgml Message-ID: <20031106105000.GA9360@figue> Reply-To: jany.quintard@free.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --text follows this line-- This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I am having some problms with Xemacs under Linux. here is a short example: I use a DTD: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ and three files: ---------- 01 ------------------ Testing of Xemacs ---------- 02 ------------------ Testing of Xemacs ---------- 03 ------------------ ]> Testing of Xemacs -------------------------------- With files 02 and 03, the parsing of prolog (C-p) and validation (C-v) run without trouble. With file 01, C-p (prolog parsing) gives a fair quantity of such messages: /usr/share/sgml/html/dtd/4.01/loose.dtd line 31 col 4 entity html /afs/parislab/home/jqd/tmp/xemacsbugs/cas01/cas01-1.xml line 2 col 35 XML forbids nested comments. I don't understand why, if I use external subset and html as root element, the validation try to use a DTD not related with the one given in DOCTYPE. This does not occur under Win2k. Is this already known, or is there something silly in the config. I am not sure that this is really an Xemacs problem. This maybe more a PSGML issue? TiA. Jany ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux eeyore 2.4.19-pre5-eeyore #1 Fri Apr 5 00:42:42 EST 2002 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-sound=none,native' '--cflags=-O2 -g -Wall' '--with-x11' '--extra-verbose' '--with-site-lisp' '--statedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/xemacs-21.4.6' '--prefix=/usr' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--dynamic' '--without-postgresql' '--with-gpm=no' '--with-gtk' '--with-gnome' '--docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.6/i386-debian-linux/gnome-nomule/' '--package-path=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages:~/.xemacs/xemacs-packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' 'i386-debian-linux' XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" configured for `i386-debian-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/dres/project/debian/current/xemacs21/xemacs-21.4.6 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -g -Wall Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Linking with `-Xlinker -znocombreloc'. - Consider configuring with --pdump. Window System: Using GTK menubars. Using GTK scrollbars. Using GTK dialog boxes. Using GTK native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/cxref/cxref /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/cxref/cxref /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/cxref/cflow /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/cxref/cflow /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/debian-startup /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/debian-startup /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/mit-scheme/xscheme /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/mit-scheme/xscheme /usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/mit-scheme/xscheme /usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/scheme/xscheme /etc/emacs/site-start /usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages/lisp/site-start) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((ada:version 1.0 :type regular) (apel :version 1.0 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.0 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.0 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.0 :type single-file) (calc :version 1.0 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.0 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.0 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.0 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.0 :type regular) (debug :version 1.0 :type regular) (dired :version 1.0 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.0 :type regular) (ediff :version 1.0 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.0 :type single-file) (edt :version 1.0 :type regular) (efs :version 1.0 :type regular) (eieio :version 1.0 :type regular) (elib :version 1.0 :type single-file) (emerge :version 1.0 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.0 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.0 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.0 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.0 :type regular) (forms :version 1.0 :type regular) (frame-icon :version 1.0 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.0 :type single-file) (games :version 1.0 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.0 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.0 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.0 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.0 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.0 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.0 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.0 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.0 :type regular) (jde :version 1.0 :type regular) (liece :version 1.0 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.0 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.0 :type regular) (mew :version 1.0 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.0 :type regular) (mine :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.0 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1.0 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.0 :type single-file) (pc :version 1.0 :type single-file) (pcl-cvs :version 1.0 :type regular) (pcomplete :version 1.0 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .0 :type single-file) (ps-print :version 1.0 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.0 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.0 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.0 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.0 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.0 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.0 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.0 :type regular) (sieve :version 1.0 :type regular) (slider :version 1.0 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.0 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.0 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.0 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.0 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.0 :type regular) (texinfo :version 1.0 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.0 :type single-file) (textools :version 1.0 :type regular) (time :version 1.0 :type regular) (tm :version 1.0 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.0 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.0 :type regular) (vc :version 1.0 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.0 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.0 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.0 :type regular) (viper :version 1.0 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.0 :type regular) (xemacs-base :version 1.0 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.0 :type single-file) (zenirc :version 1.0 :type regular) (xslide :version 1,01 :type regular) (vm :version 7,03 :type regular) (build :version 1,05 :type regular)) Features: -------- (xemacsbug shadow mail-abbrevs reporter alist gtk-font-menu font-menu compile psgml-dtd psgml-parse sendmail rfc822 tempo psgml-html psgml-xemacs sgml-mode psgml efs-cu font-lock cus-face paren blink-paren ada-autoloads apel-autoloads auctex-autoloads bbdb-autoloads c-support-autoloads calc-autoloads calendar-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cookie-autoloads crisp-autoloads debug-autoloads dired-autoloads edebug-autoloads ediff-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads edt-autoloads efs-autoloads eieio-autoloads elib-autoloads emerge-autoloads eshell-autoloads eterm-autoloads eudc-autoloads footnote-autoloads forms-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads games-autoloads gnats-autoloads gnus-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads idlwave-autoloads igrep-autoloads ilisp-autoloads ispell-autoloads jde-autoloads liece-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mew-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mine-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads net-utils-autoloads os-utils-autoloads pc-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads ps-print-autoloads psgml-autoloads reftex-autoloads rmail-autoloads scheme-autoloads semantic-autoloads sgml-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sieve-autoloads slider-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads speedbar-autoloads strokes-autoloads supercite-autoloads texinfo-autoloads text-modes-autoloads textools-autoloads time-autoloads tm-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tpu-autoloads vc-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vhdl-autoloads view-process-autoloads viper-autoloads w3-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads zenirc-autoloads xslide-autoloads vm-autoloads build-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks widgets-gtk dialog-gtk gtk-file-dialog gtk-password-dialog gtk-iso8859-1 x-iso8859-1 gdk gtk-ffi gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp gtk-scrollbars gtk-menubars gtk-ui gtk-dialogs gtk tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user C-x 1 misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user M-x n n r e p o r t - x e m a c s - b u g RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Enable recursive minibuffers for other sessions too? (y or n) No Enable recursive minibuffers for other sessions too? (y or n) Minibuffer already active: abort it with `^]', enable new one with `n': Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Enable recursive minibuffers for other sessions too? (y or n) No Enable recursive minibuffers for other sessions too? (y or n) Minibuffer already active: abort it with `^]', enable new one with `n': Please enter your report. Type C-c C-c to send, C-x k to abort. Formatting bug report buffer..... Formatting bug report buffer.... Formatting bug report buffer... Auto save file for draft message exists; consider M-x mail-recover Loading reporter...done Loading reporter... Quit Enable recursive minibuffers for other sessions too? (y or n) No Enable recursive minibuffers for other sessions too? (y or n) Minibuffer already active: abort it with `^]', enable new one with `n': Parsing prolog...done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 6 09:04:17 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6E45v19477; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:04:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6E3Ao18860 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:03:10 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6E2vV18706 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:02:57 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6E2vv18701 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:02:57 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02204; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:02:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: How is Website Edited? X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com References: <76vfpyrhl3.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <76brrqqxlk.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <1068070698.27998.78.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> From: Jake Colman Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:02:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1068070698.27998.78.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> (Ville Skytt's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 00:18:18 +0200") Message-ID: <763cd1r3vz.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "VS" == Ville Skytt writes: VS> On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 00:06, Jake Colman wrote: >> >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: >> APA> http://www.xemacs.org/About/Website.html APA> should answer almost all of your questions. >> >> How did you create the initial template.html file? Did you have to figure >> out how to use html tables or did you jave a tool do that for you too? VS> Don't use tables for layout, instead focus on document structure and use VS> CSS for presentation. Lots of related information at VS> http://www.w3.org/WAI/gettingstarted/ Ville, I find this so frutrating! (not directed at you or anyone in particular). I need to a series of simple linked web pages. I want a static small left-side with links so that clicking on a link will change the content in the middle. Each page has the same static left-side (and static header/footer for that matter. Only the middle content changes. Many web pages have this including xemacs.org but I cannot find a simple way or tool to set this up! I don't need or want frames and I want to do minimal manual html coding. I'd love to use xemacs for editing the content. How can I best do this? -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 6 09:18:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6EI1v29929; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:18:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6EHNT29460 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:17:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6EH9i29291 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:17:09 -0500 Received: from smtp4.na.baesystems.com (smtp4.na.baesystems.com [63.164.202.13]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6EH4v29232 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:17:04 -0500 Received: from BLUMS0022.bluelnk.net ([10.40.96.145]) by smtp4.na.baesystems.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6EH48w002705 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from gderome.com ([192.168.130.3]) by smtp1.na.baesystems.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA6EH3Mc012492 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from cypher (cypher [192.168.130.66]) by gderome.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6EEId15978 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:14:19 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Hines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16298.22328.271134.817288@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:14:16 -0500 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: How is Website Edited? In-Reply-To: <763cd1r3vz.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> References: <76vfpyrhl3.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <76brrqqxlk.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <1068070698.27998.78.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> <763cd1r3vz.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid X-Face: 'pn"gAx+&w4-=-}\z>*.Y*@(lC;t1J[a,/Q.Yv0^Wwc6_"H]}}-"?%)ETS`1v[]P`w4,E.9Bgf*XI4 List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jake" == Jake Colman writes: Jake> Ville, Jake> I find this so frutrating! (not directed at you or anyone Jake> in particular). I need to a series of simple linked web pages. I want Jake> a static small left-side with links so that clicking on a link will Jake> change the content in the middle. Each page has the same static Jake> left-side (and static header/footer for that matter. Only the middle Jake> content changes. Many web pages have this including xemacs.org but I Jake> cannot find a simple way or tool to set this up! I don't need or want Jake> frames and I want to do minimal manual html coding. I'd love to use Jake> xemacs for editing the content. How can I best do this? If your server supports Server Side Includes: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/howto/ssi.html you can use that to have every page #include your static parts. I imagine that PHP could be used to do this as well if your server has PHP support. You could probably also use a simple CGI to do it too, if your server allows CGI but not SSI or PHP. Of course, this is all still fairly manual but it's not overly complex to put together. Chuck -- Charles K. Hines Principal Scientist at ReQuest Technologies Inc. (http://www.ReQuestTech.com/) "You're never too old to do goofy stuff" - Ward Cleaver From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 6 10:24:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6FO5v13294; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:24:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6FNOf12750 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:23:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6FNNh12722 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:23:23 -0500 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru (pluton.ispras.ru [195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA6FNMv12709 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:23:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 755 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truba.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.41) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 6 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0000 Received: from truba.ispras.ru (root@localhost) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hA6FKdf0023463 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:20:39 +0300 Received: from nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (nord.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.175]) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hA6FKONW023434 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:20:24 +0300 Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA6FSA912082 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:28:10 +0300 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Charset nebie questions From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:23:15 +0300 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (beets, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Not sure this is the proper place for the questions, but still ... I'm a total newbiew to programming for MULE though Lisping in XEmacs over 5 years. So, have several questions. I introduce the new charset with the following code: (make-charset 'experimental-charset "Experimental charset" '(dimension 1 registry "ISO8859-1" chars 96 columns 1 direction l2r final ?3 graphic 1 short-name "EXPERIMENTAL CHARSET" long-name "EXPERIMENTAL CHARSET: CHARSET NEWBIE" )) Investigating into how the chars from the charset appear in ccl programs I found that chars are essentially three octets For example, a character created as (make-char 'experimental-charset 32) appears as a sequence (in decimal) 158 172 160. I can understand 172 -- it is equal to (charset-id 'experimental-charset). 160 ÉÚ 32 with highest bit set. BUT! where does the magic number 158 comes from? The second question relates to font selection. Under windows, when I try to display a char from the charset, i get a warning: (font/notice) Unable to instantiate font for charset experimental-charset, face default So, what is the method to associate a particular font (potentially with font family that differs from the default font family) with a charset? Nick. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 6 11:26:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6GQ1v28648; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:26:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6GP4D28048 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:25:04 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6GOpg27880 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:24:51 -0500 Received: from kluster1.contactor.se (kluster1.contactor.se [193.15.23.11]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6GOov27867; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:24:50 -0500 Received: from spencer (linux3.contactor.se [193.15.23.23]) by kluster1.contactor.se (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6GOlun004005; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:24:48 +0100 To: Jake Colman Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: How is Website Edited? From: Mats Lidell Organization: The XEmacs Project X-Face: #[2| (Jake Colman's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:02:56 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) References: <76vfpyrhl3.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <76brrqqxlk.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <1068070698.27998.78.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> <763cd1r3vz.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> Jake wrote: Jake> I want a static small left-side with links so that clicking on a Jake> link will change the content in the middle. Each page has the Jake> same static left-side (and static header/footer for that matter. Jake> Only the middle content changes. Try make(1) and a preprocessor like cpp(1) or m4(1) (or whatever supports include) and roll your own way to generate the pages. If you want more support there are scripts that try to this better. Example: "http://ht2html.sourceforge.net/" If not that is enough. Go dynamic and use Plone ;-) (I might have jumped over a few alternatives ;-) Yours -- %% Mats From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 6 14:20:16 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6JK5v14318; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:20:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6JJcL14071 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:19:38 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6JJbM14056 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:19:37 -0500 Received: from kluster1.contactor.se (kluster1.contactor.se [193.15.23.11]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6JJbv14047 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:19:37 -0500 Received: from spencer (linux3.contactor.se [193.15.23.23]) by kluster1.contactor.se (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA6JJaun009647 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:19:36 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Problems with syncing From: Mats Lidell Organization: The XEmacs Project X-Face: #[2| (Jake Colman's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:02:56 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) References: <76vfpyrhl3.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <76brrqqxlk.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <1068070698.27998.78.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> <763cd1r3vz.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I just sent my first sync-patch to xemacs-patches and when I tried to prepare that patch it became obvious to me how hard it is to do such a sync. There is no way that I could test everything in there because of the support for different operative systems, versions etc. A possible strategy would be just to patch the things that can be tested and verified. On the other hand that would probably make the sync-process very slow. You could argue that the patch is up to review anyway so if it is bad somewhere the reviewers would spot that and fix it. This would probably mean faster progress with the risk of an occasional bug being introduced. What strategy should I use for my next sync project? Yours -- %% Mats From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 6 15:05:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6K51v08668; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:05:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6K50H08650 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:05:00 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA6K4ki08515 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:04:46 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA6K4kv08509 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:04:46 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18287; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:04:46 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: How is Website Edited? X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com References: <76vfpyrhl3.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <76brrqqxlk.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <1068070698.27998.78.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> <763cd1r3vz.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> From: Jake Colman Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:04:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Mats Lidell's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:24:47 +0100") Message-ID: <76ptg5p8ki.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "ML" == Mats Lidell writes: ML> Try make(1) and a preprocessor like cpp(1) or m4(1) (or whatever ML> supports include) and roll your own way to generate the pages. If you ML> want more support there are scripts that try to this better. Example: ML> "http://ht2html.sourceforge.net/" If not that is enough. Go dynamic ML> and use Plone ;-) (I might have jumped over a few alternatives ;-) ht2html looks interesting. Thanks! -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 06:09:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7B81v04192; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:08:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7B7vX04166 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:07:57 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7B7tA04143 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:07:55 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7B7sv04137 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:07:55 -0500 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AI4T3-0001hj-00 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:07:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AI4T2-0001hb-00 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:07:52 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AI4T2-00060H-00 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:07:52 +0100 From: Uwe Brauer Subject: transpose columns in region Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 12:04:11 +0000 Lines: 22 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ltGidCDG4O7x11WuFR0oy1sbnxw= X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hello I would like to transpose columns in matrix like construct like this 1 2 2 1 1 2 --> 2 1 1 2 2 1 I can do this by hand via kill and yank rectangle, but does anybody know about a package which does this. I searched in the web without success Thanks Uwe Brauer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 07:15:54 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7CECv25906; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:14:12 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7CDYn25692 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:13:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7CDLr25620 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:13:21 -0500 Received: from juhp.dyndns.org (YahooBB219055112042.bbtec.net [219.55.112.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7CDKv25595 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:13:20 -0500 Received: from smile.house (smile.house [192.168.0.5]) by juhp.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68E83B8004 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:13:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from smile.house (localhost.house [127.0.0.1]) by smile.house (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F80CCC29B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:13:07 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:13:07 +0900 Message-ID: From: Jens Petersen To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [Bug 21.4.14] hanging on window maximization User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.6 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 14) (Reasonable Discussion) (i386-redhat-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Has anyone else experienced the problem that xemacs-21.4.14 (and 21.4.13) hang/loop whenever an XEmacs window is maximized in X? I see this with the xemacs in Fedora Core 1 at least (on Linux/ix86). It doesn't appear to happen with 21.4.12. Jens > From: Sanjay Shakkottai > Subject: problems with date and xemacs > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:41:14 -0800 (PST) > : > > 2. xemacs freezes if I try to maximize the window. > However, it works fine otherwise. > : > > Regards, > Sanjay From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 08:17:28 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7DG2v28509; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:16:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7DF3b27294 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:15:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7DF2q27275 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:15:02 -0500 Received: from cirse.saclay.cea.fr (cirse.saclay.cea.fr [132.166.192.127]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7DF1v27250 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:15:02 -0500 Received: from argiope.saclay.cea.fr (argiope.saclay.cea.fr [132.166.192.108]) by cirse.saclay.cea.fr (8.12.10/8.12.9/CEAnet-Internet.2.0) with ESMTP id hA7DF0KS023065 for ; 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Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:14:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7EDtJ31613 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:13:55 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7EDdX31460 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:13:39 -0500 Received: from rent.teradyne.com (rent.teradyne.com [198.51.251.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7EDav31434; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:13:36 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by rent.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20856; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA23726; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA05499; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:13:30 +0100 (MET) To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ville_Skytt=E4?= Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Q] Re: [Fwd: Re: NEWS entries for packages?] X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <1068074684.14859.7.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:14:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1068074684.14859.7.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> (Ville Skytt's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 01:24:44 +0200") Message-ID: <1xski7v8.fsf@engine.ecf.teradyne.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Ville" == Ville Skytt writes: Ville> I [vaguely] remember being very confused myself when Ville> installing my first post-21 XEmacs and looking for Ville> information about "Packages" on the XEmacs website and Ville> seeing it being used in many contexts meaning many Ville> different things. That's one of the things I'm trying to Ville> fix with this patch. Good man! I agree that XEmacs Package should be used exclusively for packages released via XEmacs->Tools->Packages and installable without extra expertise on the user's part. Let's fix the few places where XEmacs Package is used incorrectly. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 09:41:26 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7Ee2v15463; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:40:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7EdWg15174 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:39:32 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7EdNb15087 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:39:23 -0500 Received: from mx1.twosigma.com (mx1.twosigma.com [166.84.149.248]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7EdMv15069 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:39:22 -0500 Received: by mx1.twosigma.com (Postfix, from userid 108) id 6CF0B2B0A7; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mxgbl1.twosigma.com (unknown [192.168.100.33]) by mx1.twosigma.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169DB2B0A4 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:39:17 -0500 (EST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3A53C.EB46F896" Subject: [Bug: 21.5-b15] crash by doing file-open-cancel X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:39:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Bug: 21.5-b15] crash by doing file-open-cancel Thread-Index: AcOlPOtFq66RzuvdTV21zBPwDbHjVQ== From: "Benjamin Shi" To: X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A53C.EB46F896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --text follows this line-- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dear Bug Team! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux fsdv1.nyc.twosigma.com 2.4.21-rc1 #15 SMP Mon May 12 = 13:31:12 GMT 2003 i686 unknown ./configure '--prefix=3D/usr/local' = '--package-path=3D/usr/local/lib/xemacs-packages' XEmacs 21.5-b15 "celery" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /u/bshi/tmp/xemacs-21.5.15 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline = -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wshadow = -Wmissing-declarations -g -O3 Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/local/lib/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b15/lisp/build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.14 :type regular) (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) (time :version 1.13 :type regular) (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.63 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.24 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) (sml-mode :version 0.09 :type regular) (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular) (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular) (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.3 :type regular) (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular) (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .83 :type single-file) (pgg :version 1.03 :type regular) (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular) (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.23 :type regular) (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.6 :type regular) (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type 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(calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 cus-face zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads modules-autoloads auto-autoloads loadhist rsz-minibuf auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse behavior itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived newcomment env text-props frame obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote unicode lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type file-coding linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- ESC x r e p o r t - e m a c s - b u g s RET BS RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Auto save file for draft message exists; consider M-x mail-recover Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Loading cus-face...done Loading cus-face... **************** Sequence of event dwdv10:~> xemacs & [1] 29608 dwdv10:~>=20 Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. Your version of XEmacs was distributed with a PROBLEMS file that may = describe your crash, and with luck a workaround. Please check it first, but do = report the crash anyway. Please report this bug by invoking M-x report-emacs-bug, or by selecting `Send Bug Report' from the Help menu. If that won't work, send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include this entire = output from this crash, especially including the Lisp backtrace, as well as the XEmacs configuration from M-x describe-installation (or equivalently, = the file `Installation' in the top of the build tree). *Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are = unlikely to be able to analyze the problem. Locate the core file produced as a = result of this crash (often called `core' or `core.', and located = in the directory in which you started XEmacs or your home directory), and = type gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core then type `where' at the debugger prompt. No GDB on your system? You = may have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. (Ask your system administrator if you need = help.) If no core file was produced, enable them (often with `ulimit -c = unlimited') in case of future recurrance of the crash. Lisp backtrace follows: # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) delete-window(#) # bind (next window window) window-reduce-to-one(#) # bind (combination-start root-window frame) frame-reduce-to-one-window(#) # bind (configuration frame) really-set-window-configuration(# = [cl-struct-window-configuration # 563 323 = #"> 15 10 4 [cl-struct-saved-window nil = nil nil nil nil nil nil 0 0 555 300 0 nil nil nil = [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil nil nil nil nil 0 0 555 255 0 nil = nil [cl-struct-saved-window t nil nil # = # # # 0 0 159 255 0 = nil nil nil nil [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil # # # # 159 0 = 555 255 0 nil nil nil nil nil]] nil [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil = #"> # = # 0x85cb7b4> # 0x85cb7cc> 0 255 555 300 0 nil nil nil nil nil]] = [cl-struct-saved-window nil t nil # # # # 0 300 555 315 0 nil nil nil nil nil]]]) # bind (frame configuration) set-window-configuration([cl-struct-window-configuration # 563 323 #"> 15 10 4 = [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil nil nil nil nil 0 0 555 300 0 nil = nil nil [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil nil nil nil nil 0 0 555 255 = 0 nil nil [cl-struct-saved-window t nil nil # # # # 0 0 159 255 0 nil nil nil nil [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil = nil # # # # 159 0 555 255 0 nil nil nil nil nil]] nil = [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil #"> = # # = 0x85cb7b4> # 0x85cb7cc> 0 255 555 = 300 0 nil nil nil nil nil]] [cl-struct-saved-window nil t nil # # # # 0 300 = 555 315 0 nil nil nil nil nil]]]) byte-code("..." [oconfig frame buffer-read-only oframe buffer mconfig = buffer-disable-undo nil erase-buffer frame-live-p selected-frame = select-frame set-window-configuration] 2) signal(quit nil) # bind (minibuffer-default _history_ oconfig mconfig frame buffer = window oframe owindow dir default abbrev-table history readp keymap = initial-contents prompt) read-from-minibuffer("Find file: " "~/" # nil file-name-history nil nil) # bind (minibuffer-completion-table minibuffer-completion-predicate = minibuffer-completion-confirm last-exact-completion insert completer = initial-contents must-match default dir prompt history) read-file-name-2(file-name-history "Find file: " nil nil nil nil = read-file-name-internal) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (user-data dirwin filewin frame butbuf dirbuf filebuf file-p = completer initial-contents must-match default dir prompt history) mouse-read-file-name-1(file-name-history "Find file: " nil nil nil nil = read-file-name-internal) byte-code("..." [initial-contents must-match default dir prompt = history mouse-read-file-name-1 completer] 8) # bind (completer initial-contents must-match default dir prompt = history type) read-file-name-1(file file-name-history "Find file: " nil nil nil nil = read-file-name-internal) # bind (history initial-contents must-match default dir prompt) read-file-name("Find file: ") (list (read-file-name "Find file: ") (and current-prefix-arg = (read-coding-system "Coding system: ")) t) call-interactively(find-file) (dispatch-event "[internal]") # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) [1]+ Segmentation fault (core dumped) xemacs ***************** stack trace dwdv10:~> gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core.29608=20 GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (5.2.1-4) Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you = are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain = conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for = details. This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"... warning: core file may not match specified executable file. Core was generated by `xemacs'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpng.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libz.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libdb-3.3.so...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libdb-3.3.so Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libutil.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libutil.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libdl.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/ld-linux.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_files.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_files.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_nis.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_nis.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnsl.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnsl.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_dns.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_dns.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libresolv.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libresolv.so.2 Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/common/xlcDef.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/common/xlcDef.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/common/ximcp.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/common/ximcp.so.2 #0 0x105a2d01 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) where #0 0x105a2d01 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x080ca7c5 in fatal_error_signal (sig=3D11) at emacs.c:3543 #2 0x105a2c88 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0x08244fd0 in find_window_mirror_internal (win=3D140458736, = rmir=3D0x85d8cd0, w=3D0x85f1838) at window.c:593 #4 0x0824510f in find_window_mirror (w=3D0x85f1838) at window.c:657 #5 0x08245397 in window_display_lines (w=3D0x85f1838, which=3D0) at = window.c:704 #6 0x081c8f44 in redraw_cursor_in_window (w=3D0x85f1838, = run_end_begin_meths=3D1) at redisplay-output.c:1130 #7 0x081cd064 in redisplay_redraw_cursor (f=3D0x859d798, = run_end_begin_meths=3D1) at redisplay-output.c:1200 #8 0x080e3808 in emacs_handle_focus_change_preliminary = (frame_inp_and_dev=3D139691656) at event-stream.c:1789 #9 0x0821eb0c in handle_focus_event_2 (win=3D79692099, f=3D0x859d798, = in_p=3D1) at event-Xt.c:1609 #10 0x0822178d in emacs_Xt_handle_widget_losing_focus (f=3D0x859d798, = losing_widget=3D0x85d85b8) at event-Xt.c:1542 #11 0x0822c16d in x_unmap_subwindow (p=3D0x85b8df0) at glyphs-x.c:2041 #12 0x0814b807 in unmap_subwindow (subwindow=3D140217840) at = glyphs.c:4777 #13 0x0814b080 in unmap_subwindow_instance_cache_mapper = (key=3D138771656, value=3D140217840, finalize=3D0x1) at glyphs.c:4462 #14 0x080c7b43 in elisp_maphash (function=3D0x814ae54 = , hash_table=3D138160928, = extra_arg=3D0x1) at elhash.c:1397 #15 0x0824828f in mark_window_as_deleted (w=3D0x85ac5f0) at = window.c:2062 #16 0x08248c8c in Fdelete_window (window=3D140166640, force=3D275722116) = at window.c:2305 #17 0x080d1a3f in Ffuncall (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffb4d4) at eval.c:3842 #18 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x8589658 = "=C2\t!\031\t=AB\023=C3\t!=AB=F9=C2\t!\030=C4\t!\210\b\021)=AA=EC)=C5\t!=AB= \a=C6=C5\t!!\207=C7\t!\006=C6=C7\t!!\207H", stack_depth=3D3,=20 constants_data=3D0x107841a8) at bytecode.c:603 #19 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffb7f4) at eval.c:3452 #20 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x8589208 = "=C3\b!\032=C4\n!=AE\004=C5\n!\211\031\004=C6\t!*\207", stack_depth=3D3, = constants_data=3D0x107841d8) at bytecode.c:603 #21 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffbb14) at eval.c:3452 #22 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program ( program=3D0x860ecd8 = "=C6\211\021\020=C7\026\035=C8\f!\210=C9\r!\210=CA\f!\036\034=CB\r=C6H\vs= =AC\006=CC=CD\r\"\210\r=CEH=CF=D0\f!!Z=C7=D0\f!#\210=D1=D0\f!!\210=C7\032= =D2\r\016\034\r=C6H\vs=AC\006=CC=D3\r\"\210\r=D4H=D5$\210\n=AB\005=D1\n!\= 210*\r=C6H\vs=AC\006=CC=D6\r\"\210\r=D7H\021\r=C6H\vs=AC\006=CC=D8\r\"\21= 0\r=D9H\020\r=C6H\vs=AC\006=CC=DA\r\"\210\r=DBHq\207", stack_depth=3D7, = constants_data=3D0x10784204) at bytecode.c:603 #23 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D3, args=3D0xbfffbe44) at eval.c:3452 #24 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x8585c10 = "\n=C3H\bs=AC\006=C4=C5\n\"\210\n=C6H\031=C7\t!\r=C8\n=C9 = \"?\005=CA\t\n\")\207", stack_depth=3D3, constants_data=3D0x107843a4) at bytecode.c:603 #25 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffc164) at eval.c:3452 #26 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0xbfffc280 = "\fq\210=C6\f!\210=C7\022=C8 \210\r=AB\020=C9\v!=AB\v\t=CA = a=AB\005=CB\v!\210\r=AB\005=CC\r!\210=CC\b!\207=C4=FF=BF=F2\031\r\b", = stack_depth=3D2,=20 constants_data=3D0x1076c68c) at bytecode.c:603 #27 0x0809db8f in Fbyte_code (instructions=3D276500612, = constants=3D276219516, stack_depth=3D5) at bytecode.c:2251 #28 0x080d0bf5 in Feval (form=3D275911104) at eval.c:3599 #29 0x080d5aad in Fprogn (args=3D275911116) at eval.c:953 #30 0x080d4981 in unbind_to_hairy (count=3D0) at eval.c:6036 #31 0x080d78bc in unbind_to_1 (count=3D0, value=3D275722116) at = eval.c:5988 #32 0x080cdac0 in throw_or_bomb_out (tag=3D139674672, val=3D139203368, = bomb_out_p=3D0, sig=3D275722116, data=3D275722116) at eval.c:1582 #33 0x080cecea in Fsignal (error_symbol=3D275696004, data=3D275722116) = at eval.c:2392 #34 0x080d1a3f in Ffuncall (nargs=3D3, args=3D0xbfffcc74) at eval.c:3842 #35 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program ( program=3D0x85c1f40 "\016K=AC\022=C6 =C7V=AB\f=C8 =C9 = a=AB\005=CA=CB!\210\016A=AB\021\016A=C7V=AB\v=C6 \016AY=AB\004=CC = \210\f=AB\035\f9=AB\r=CD\f!=AC\024=CA=CE\f\"\210=AA\r=CD\f@!=AC\a=CA=CE\f= @\"\210=CF =AB\t=D0=D1=D2\016L!\"\210\016B\036C=C8 \036D=D3 \036M=C9 = \031=C6 =C7a=AB\006=D4\t!=AA\b=D5=D6=D7=C6 \"!\030=D8\t!\211\036E=D3 = a?\005=D9\016E!\036N=D9 = \036O\f\e\016<\036P=DA\216=DB\b!q\210\016C\026B=DC=DD!\210=DE\026\035=DC=DF= !\210=DC=E0!\210=DC=E1!\210=E2\026\037=E3\026 = \016F=AB\025=DC=E4!\210\016$=AC\004=E5\026$=DC=E6!"..., stack_depth=3D6, = constants_data=3D0x10788078) at bytecode.c:603 #36 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D8, args=3D0xbfffcfa4) at eval.c:3452 #37 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program ( program=3D0x8515fd0 = "\r=AC\004\016\017\025=C6\r=C7\"\025\016\020=AC\a\v=AC\004=C8=AA\021\v=AB= \v=C9\r\vP!\rGB=AA\004=C9\r!\034\016\021\r\b=C7a?\002=C7=CA\036\022\036\0= 23\036\024\036\025=CB\016\026\f\b=AC\005\016\027=AA\003\016\030=CA\016\03= 1=CA\n&\a,\211\031=AC\006=CC=CD!=AA\027\n=AB\021\t\f:=AB\005\f@=AA\002\fk= =AB\004\n=AA\004=CE\t!*\207", stack_depth=3D9, = constants_data=3D0x1076cf78) at bytecode.c:603 #38 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D8, args=3D0xbfffd2e4) at eval.c:3452 #39 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program ( program=3D0x852d0a0 = "\0161=C6a\032=C7=C8!\034\n\004=C9=CA!\031=C9=CA!\030=CB = \035=CC\211\e\036.=CC\0362=CD\216=CE\f!\210=CF\r!\210=D0\0364=D1=CC=D2\r!= =D3Z\"\210)\n=AB\e=D4=D5!\210=D6\r!\023=D7\r!\026.=D8\v\f\"\210=D8\016.\t= \"\210=AA\n=D9\r!\023=D8\v\f\"\210\f\t\v\016.F\0262=D8=DA\r!\b\"\210=DB\0= 36/\fq\210=DC=DD\016/\"\210\n=AB\n\tq\210=DC=DD\016/\"\210)=DE=DF=E0\"\21= 0\bq\210=E1\0163!\210\0160=AB\005\0160\0265=E2=E3!=AB\b=E4\0166=E5\b#\210= =E6c\210=E7=E8=E9=EA\"!\210=E6c\210=E7=E8=EB=EC\"!\210=ED\0167\0163\0160\= 0168\0169\016:\0161"..., stack_depth=3D9, constants_data=3D0x1078752c) = at bytecode.c:603 #40 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D8, args=3D0xbfffd624) at eval.c:3452 #41 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0xbfffd760 = "=C6\r\f\v\n\t\b\016\a&\a\207[\215\n\b", stack_depth=3D8, = constants_data=3D0x10787628) at bytecode.c:603 #42 0x0809db8f in Fbyte_code (instructions=3D276655220, = constants=3D276330008, stack_depth=3D17) at bytecode.c:2251 ---Type to continue, or q to quit---=20 #43 0x080d0bf5 in Feval (form=3D276132408) at eval.c:3599 #44 0x080ce051 in run_condition_case_handlers (val=3D139667400, = var=3D275722116) at eval.c:953 #45 0x080cddc2 in condition_case_1 (handlers=3D276132504, = bfun=3D0x80d0330 , barg=3D276133140, hfun=3D0x80cdf38 = , harg=3D275722116) at eval.c:1901 #46 0x080ce437 in condition_case_3 (bodyform=3D276133140, = var=3D275722116, handlers=3D276132504) at eval.c:2002 #47 0x0809b50c in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=3D0xbfffe01c, = program_ptr=3D0x85b9f78 = "\207=CA=CB=CC\"\210=CD\r\f\v\n\t\b\016\016&\a\207", = opcode=3DBcondition_case) at bytecode.c:1128 #48 0x0809a500 in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x85b9f70 "=C6 = =AB\006=C7=C8=C9\217\207=CA=CB=CC\"\210=CD\r\f\v\n\t\b\016\016&\a\207", = stack_depth=3D8, constants_data=3D0x10787b84) at bytecode.c:507 #49 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D9, args=3D0xbfffe354) at eval.c:3452 #50 0x0809a753 in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x85bb670 = "=C6=C7\v=AE\002=C8\n\f\t=AE\025\r=AB\n=C9=CA\r\f\"=CB\"=AE\t\b\006=C9\01= 6\r=CB\"\016\016\r=CC&\b\207", stack_depth=3D9, = constants_data=3D0x10787bd0) at bytecode.c:603 #51 0x080d1307 in Feval (form=3D275902644) at eval.c:3452 #52 0x080d0d09 in Feval (form=3D275902668) at eval.c:3617 #53 0x0809e7da in Fcall_interactively (function=3D275707596, = record_flag=3D275722116, keys=3D275722116) at callint.c:402 #54 0x080d1a3f in Ffuncall (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbffff1d8) at eval.c:3842 #55 0x080d69bb in call1 (fn=3D275657052, arg0=3D275707596) at = eval.c:4487 #56 0x080e7d90 in execute_command_event (command_builder=3D0x84cf3e8, = event=3D140248712) at event-stream.c:4205 #57 0x080e897f in Fdispatch_event (event=3D140248712) at = event-stream.c:4561 #58 0x080a6ac4 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:569 #59 0x080a6d53 in command_loop_1 (dummy=3D275722116) at cmdloop.c:488 #60 0x080cde27 in condition_case_1 (handlers=3D275720028, = bfun=3D0x80a6d14 , barg=3D275722116, hfun=3D0x80a6db8 = , harg=3D275722116) at eval.c:1917 #61 0x080a6f90 in command_loop_2 (dummy=3D275722116) at cmdloop.c:251 #62 0x080cd9b9 in internal_catch (tag=3D275506812, func=3D0x80a6f48 = , arg=3D275722116, threw=3D0x0, thrown_tag=3D0x0) at = eval.c:1527 #63 0x080a6754 in initial_command_loop (load_me=3D275722116) at = cmdloop.c:300 #64 0x080c97d3 in xemacs_21_5_b15_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2403 #65 0x080ca189 in main (argc=3D1, argv=3D0xbffffb64, envp=3D0xbffffb6c) = at emacs.c:2833 #66 0x1058f914 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A53C.EB46F896 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Bug: 21.5-b15] crash by doing file-open-cancel

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    Dear Bug Team!



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    System Info to help track down = your bug:
    ---------------------------------------

    uname -a: Linux = fsdv1.nyc.twosigma.com 2.4.21-rc1 #15 SMP Mon May 12 13:31:12 GMT 2003 = i686 unknown

    ./configure  = '--prefix=3D/usr/local' = '--package-path=3D/usr/local/lib/xemacs-packages'


    XEmacs 21.5-b15 = "celery"  configured for `i686-pc-linux'.


    Compilation / = Installation:
      Source code = location:          &nbs= p;   /u/bshi/tmp/xemacs-21.5.15
      Installation = prefix:           =     /usr/local
      Operating system = description file: `s/linux.h'
      Machine description = file:          = `m/intel386.h'
      = Compiler:          &nbs= p;            = ;   gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes = -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wshadow = -Wmissing-declarations -g -O3

      Relocating allocator for = buffers:  no
      GNU version of = malloc:           =   yes
        - Using Doug = Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.

    Window System:
      Compiling in support for = the X window system:
        - X Windows = headers = location:          &nbs= p;      /usr/X11R6/include
        - X Windows = libraries = location:          &nbs= p;    /usr/X11R6/lib
        - Handling = WM_COMMAND properly.
      Using Lucid = menubars.
      Using Lucid = scrollbars.
      Using Motif dialog = boxes.
      Using Motif native = widgets.

    TTY:
      Compiling in support for = ncurses.
      Compiling in support for = GPM (General Purpose Mouse).

    Images:
      Compiling in support for = GIF  images (builtin).
      Compiling in support for = XPM  images.
      Compiling in support for = PNG  images.
      Compiling in support for = JPEG images.
      Compiling in support for = TIFF images.

    Sound:
      Compiling in support for = sound (native).

    Databases:
      Compiling in support for = Berkeley database.
      Compiling in support for = LDAP.
      Compiling in support for = PostgreSQL.
        - Using = PostgreSQL header file:  libpq-fe.h
        - Using = PostgreSQL V7 bindings.

    Internationalization:

    Mail:
      Compiling in support for = "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method.

    Other Features:
      Inhibiting IPv6 = canonicalization at startup.
      Compiling in support for = dynamic shared object modules.
      Using the new portable = dumper.
      Compiling in support for = extra debugging code.
      WARNING: = ---------------------------------------------------------
      WARNING: Compiling in = support for runtime error checking.
      WARNING: XEmacs will run = noticeably more slowly as a result.
      WARNING: Error checking = is on by default for XEmacs beta releases.
      WARNING: = ---------------------------------------------------------



    Load-Path Lisp Shadows:
    ----------------------
    (/usr/local/lib/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report
    /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b15/lisp/build-report)


    Installed XEmacs Packages:
    -------------------------

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     (xslide :version 1.08 = :type regular)
     (xemacs-devel :version = 1.58:type single-file)
     (xemacs-base :version 1.78 = :type regular)
     (w3 :version 1.28 :type = regular)
     (vm :version 7.14 :type = regular)
     (viper :version 1.36 :type = regular)
     (view-process :version = 1.12:type regular)
     (vhdl :version 1.17 :type = regular)
     (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type = regular)
     (vc :version 1.37 :type = regular)
     (tramp :version 1.16 :type = regular)
     (tpu :version 1.12 :type = regular)
     (tooltalk :version 1.13 = :type regular)
     (tm :version 1.36 :type = regular)
     (time :version 1.13 :type = regular)
     (textools :version 1.14 = :type regular)
     (text-modes :version 1.63 = :type single-file)
     (texinfo :version 1.24 = :type regular)
     (supercite :version 1.19 = :type regular)
     (strokes :version 1.08 = :type regular)
     (speedbar :version 1.26 = :type regular)
     (sounds-wav :version 1.1 = :type regular)
     (sounds-au :version 1.1 = :type regular)
     (sml-mode :version 0.09 = :type regular)
     (slider :version 1.13 = :type regular)
     (sieve :version 1.13 :type = regular)
     (sh-script :version 1.17 = :type regular)
     (sgml :version 1.08 :type = regular)
     (semantic :version 1.17 = :type regular)
     (scheme :version 1.13 = :type regular)
     (sasl :version 1.13 :type = regular)
     (ruby-modes :version 1.01 = :type regular)
     (rmail :version 1.13 :type = regular)
     (reftex :version 1.3 :type = regular)
     (python-modes :version = 1.02:type single-file)
     (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 = :type regular)
     (psgml :version 1.41 :type = regular)
     (ps-print :version 1.08 = :type regular)
     (prog-modes
      :version
       1
       .83
        :type
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     (pgg :version 1.03 :type = regular)
     (perl-modes :version 1.04 = :type single-file)
     (pcomplete :version 1.02 = :type regular)
     (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 = :type regular)
     (pc :version 1.25 :type = single-file)
     (os-utils :version 1.32 = :type single-file)
     (oo-browser :version 1.03 = :type regular)
     (ocaml :version 0.04 :type = regular)
     (net-utils :version 1.32 = :type single-file)
     (mmm-mode :version 1.0 = :type regular)
     (misc-games :version 1.16 = :type single-file)
     (mine :version 1.14 :type = regular)
     (mh-e :version 1.23 :type = regular)
     (mew :version 1.17 :type = regular)
     (mailcrypt :version 2.12 = :type regular)
     (mail-lib :version 1.6 = :type regular)
     (liece :version 1.12 :type = regular)
     (jde :version 1.45 :type = regular)
     (ispell :version 1.24 = :type regular)
     (ilisp :version 1.32 :type = regular)
     (igrep :version 1.1 :type = regular)
     (idlwave :version 1.3 = :type regular)
     (ibuffer :version 1.08 = :type regular)
     (hyperbole :version 1.12 = :type regular)
     (hm--html-menus :version = 1.21:type regular)
     (haskell-mode :version = 1.05:type regular)
     (gnus :version 1.71 :type = regular)
     (gnats :version 1.15 :type = regular)
     (games :version 1.14 :type = regular)
     (fsf-compat :version 1.12 = :type single-file)
     (frame-icon :version 1.09 = :type regular)
     (fortran-modes :version = 1.02:type single-file)
     (forms :version 1.14 :type = regular)
     (footnote :version 1.15 = :type regular)
     (eudc :version 1.38 :type = regular)
     (eterm :version 1.13 :type = regular)
     (ess :version 1.04 :type = regular)
     (eshell :version 1.05 = :type regular)
     (emerge :version 1.09 = :type regular)
     (elib :version 1.1 :type = single-file)
     (eieio :version 1.04 :type = regular)
     (efs :version 1.29 :type = regular)
     (edt :version 1.12 :type = regular)
     (edit-utils :version 2.07 = :type single-file)
     (ediff :version 1.47 :type = regular)
     (edebug :version 1.18 = :type regular)
     (ecrypto :version 0.13 = :type regular)
     (ecb :version 1.1 :type = regular)
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     (dired :version 1.13 :type = regular)
     (dictionary :version 1.12 = :type regular)
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     (crisp :version 1.12 :type = regular)
     (cookie :version 1.14 = :type regular)
     (clearcase :version 1.06 = :type regular)
     (cc-mode :version 1.39 = :type regular)
     (calendar :version 1.21 = :type regular)
     (calc :version 1.23 :type = regular)
     (c-support :version 1.16 = :type single-file)
     (build :version 1.1 :type = regular)
     (bbdb :version 1.23 :type = regular)
     (auctex :version 1.35 = :type regular)
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    Installed Modules:
    -----------------


    Features:
    --------

    (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow = sendmail rfc822 cus-face
    zenirc-autoloads = xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads
    xemacs-devel-autoloads = xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads
    viper-autoloads = view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads
    vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads = tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads
    tm-autoloads time-autoloads = textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads
    texinfo-autoloads = supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads
    speedbar-autoloads = sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads
    sml-mode-autoloads = slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads
    sh-script-autoloads = sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads
    sasl-autoloads = ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads
    python-modes-autoloads = psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads
    ps-print-autoloads = prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads
    perl-modes-autoloads = pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads
    pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads = oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads
    net-utils-autoloads = mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads
    mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads = mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads
    mail-lib-autoloads = liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads
    ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads = idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads
    hyperbole-autoloads = hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads
    gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads = games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads
    frame-icon-autoloads = fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads
    footnote-autoloads = eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads
    eshell-autoloads = emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads
    efs-autoloads edt-autoloads = edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads
    edebug-autoloads = ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads
    dired-autoloads = dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads
    cookie-autoloads = clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads
    calendar-autoloads = calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads
    bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads = apel-autoloads ada-autoloads
    modules-autoloads auto-autoloads = loadhist rsz-minibuf auto-show
    fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 = code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar
    mode-motion mouse behavior = itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu
    iso8859-1 page buff-menu = lib-complete cus-file derived newcomment env
    text-props frame obsolete = cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl
    cl-19 packages backquote unicode = lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer
    lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x = c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar
    native-sound scrollbar = unix-processes multicast network-streams
    subprocesses modules = menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5
    xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg = xpm xbm lisp-float-type file-coding
    linux dialog devices = window-system base64)


    Recent keystrokes:
    -----------------

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    **************** Sequence of = event


    dwdv10:~> xemacs &
    [1] 29608
    dwdv10:~>
    Fatal error (11).

    Your files have been = auto-saved.
    Use `M-x recover-session' to = recover them.

    Your version of XEmacs was = distributed with a PROBLEMS file that may describe
    your crash, and with luck a = workaround.  Please check it first, but do report
    the crash anyway.

    Please report this bug by = invoking M-x report-emacs-bug, or by selecting
    `Send Bug Report' from the Help = menu.  If that won't work, send ordinary
    email to = `crashes@xemacs.org'.  *MAKE SURE* to include this entire = output
    from this crash, especially = including the Lisp backtrace, as well as the
    XEmacs configuration from M-x = describe-installation (or equivalently, the
    file `Installation' in the top = of the build tree).

    *Please* try *hard* to obtain a C = stack backtrace; without it, we are unlikely
    to be able to analyze the = problem.  Locate the core file produced as a result
    of this crash (often called = `core' or `core.<process-id>', and located in
    the directory in which you = started XEmacs or your home directory), and type

      gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs = core

    then type `where' at the debugger = prompt.  No GDB on your system?  You may
    have DBX, or XDB, or SDB.  = (Ask your system administrator if you need help.)
    If no core file was produced, = enable them (often with `ulimit -c unlimited')
    in case of future recurrance of = the crash.

    Lisp backtrace follows:

      # (unwind-protect = ...)
      # (unwind-protect = ...)
      # (unwind-protect = ...)
      # (unwind-protect = ...)
      # (unwind-protect = ...)
      # (unwind-protect = ...)
      # (unwind-protect = ...)
      # (unwind-protect = ...)
      delete-window(#<window = 0x122b>)
      # bind (next window = window)
      = window-reduce-to-one(#<window 0x1241>)
      # bind (combination-start = root-window frame)
      = frame-reduce-to-one-window(#<x-frame "emacs" = 0x1059>)
      # bind (configuration = frame)
      = really-set-window-configuration(#<x-frame "emacs" = 0x1059> [cl-struct-window-configuration #<x-frame = "emacs" 0x1059> 563 323 #<buffer " = *mouse-read-file*<2>"> 15 10 4 [cl-struct-saved-window nil = nil nil nil nil nil nil 0 0 555 300 0 nil nil nil = [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil nil nil nil nil 0 0 555 255 0 nil = nil [cl-struct-saved-window t nil nil #<buffer " = *mouse-read-file*"> #<marker in no buffer 0x85cb79c> = #<marker at 1 in  *mouse-read-file* 0x839cc0c> #<marker at = 1 in  *mouse-read-file* 0x85cb784> 0 0 159 255 0 nil nil nil nil = [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil #<buffer = "*Completions*"> #<marker in no buffer 0x839cbf4> = #<marker at 1 in *Completions* 0x839cbc4> #<marker at 1 in = *Completions* 0x839cbdc> 159 0 555 255 0 nil nil nil nil nil]] nil = [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil #<buffer " = *mouse-read-file*<2>"> #<marker in no buffer = 0x85cb7e4> #<marker at 1 in  *mouse-read-file*<2> = 0x85cb7b4> #<marker at 1 in  *mouse-read-file*<2> = 0x85cb7cc> 0 255 555 300 0 nil nil nil nil nil]] = [cl-struct-saved-window nil t nil #<buffer " = *Minibuf-0*"> #<marker in no buffer 0x85cb82c> #<marker = at 1 in  *Minibuf-0* 0x85cb7fc> #<marker at 1 in  = *Minibuf-0* 0x85cb814> 0 300 555 315 0 nil nil nil nil = nil]]])

      # bind (frame = configuration)
      = set-window-configuration([cl-struct-window-configuration #<x-frame = "emacs" 0x1059> 563 323 #<buffer " = *mouse-read-file*<2>"> 15 10 4 [cl-struct-saved-window nil = nil nil nil nil nil nil 0 0 555 300 0 nil nil nil = [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil nil nil nil nil 0 0 555 255 0 nil = nil [cl-struct-saved-window t nil nil #<buffer " = *mouse-read-file*"> #<marker in no buffer 0x85cb79c> = #<marker at 1 in  *mouse-read-file* 0x839cc0c> #<marker at = 1 in  *mouse-read-file* 0x85cb784> 0 0 159 255 0 nil nil nil nil = [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil #<buffer = "*Completions*"> #<marker in no buffer 0x839cbf4> = #<marker at 1 in *Completions* 0x839cbc4> #<marker at 1 in = *Completions* 0x839cbdc> 159 0 555 255 0 nil nil nil nil nil]] nil = [cl-struct-saved-window nil nil nil #<buffer " = *mouse-read-file*<2>"> #<marker in no buffer = 0x85cb7e4> #<marker at 1 in  *mouse-read-file*<2> = 0x85cb7b4> #<marker at 1 in  *mouse-read-file*<2> = 0x85cb7cc> 0 255 555 300 0 nil nil nil nil nil]] = [cl-struct-saved-window nil t nil #<buffer " = *Minibuf-0*"> #<marker in no buffer 0x85cb82c> #<marker = at 1 in  *Minibuf-0* 0x85cb7fc> #<marker at 1 in  = *Minibuf-0* 0x85cb814> 0 300 555 315 0 nil nil nil nil = nil]]])

      byte-code("..." = [oconfig frame buffer-read-only oframe buffer mconfig = buffer-disable-undo nil erase-buffer frame-live-p selected-frame = select-frame set-window-configuration] 2)

      signal(quit nil)
      # bind = (minibuffer-default _history_ oconfig mconfig frame buffer window oframe = owindow dir default abbrev-table history readp keymap initial-contents = prompt)

      = read-from-minibuffer("Find file: " "~/" #<keymap = read-file-name-map size 2 0xf18> nil file-name-history nil = nil)
      # bind = (minibuffer-completion-table minibuffer-completion-predicate = minibuffer-completion-confirm last-exact-completion insert completer = initial-contents must-match default dir prompt history)

      = read-file-name-2(file-name-history "Find file: " nil nil nil = nil read-file-name-internal)
      # (unwind-protect = ...)
      # bind (user-data dirwin = filewin frame butbuf dirbuf filebuf file-p completer initial-contents = must-match default dir prompt history)

      = mouse-read-file-name-1(file-name-history "Find file: " nil nil = nil nil read-file-name-internal)
      byte-code("..." = [initial-contents must-match default dir prompt history = mouse-read-file-name-1 completer] 8)
      # bind (completer = initial-contents must-match default dir prompt history type)
      read-file-name-1(file = file-name-history "Find file: " nil nil nil nil = read-file-name-internal)
      # bind (history = initial-contents must-match default dir prompt)
      read-file-name("Find = file: ")
      (list (read-file-name = "Find file: ") (and current-prefix-arg (read-coding-system = "Coding system: ")) t)
      = call-interactively(find-file)
      (dispatch-event = "[internal]")
      # (condition-case ... . = error)
      # (catch top-level = ...)


    [1]+  Segmentation = fault      (core dumped) xemacs




    ***************** stack = trace


    dwdv10:~> gdb = /usr/local/bin/xemacs core.29608
    GNU gdb Red Hat Linux = (5.2.1-4)
    Copyright 2002 Free Software = Foundation, Inc.
    GDB is free software, covered by = the GNU General Public License, and you are
    welcome to change it and/or = distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
    Type "show copying" to = see the conditions.
    There is absolutely no warranty = for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
    This GDB was configured as = "i386-redhat-linux"...

    warning: core file may not match = specified executable file.
    Core was generated by = `xemacs'.
    Program terminated with signal = 11, Segmentation fault.
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3
    Reading symbols from = /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3
    Reading symbols from = /usr/lib/libpng.so.2...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/lib/libpng.so.2
    Reading symbols from = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62
    Reading symbols from = /usr/lib/libz.so.1...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/lib/libz.so.1
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libdb-3.3.so...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libdb-3.3.so
    Reading symbols from = /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1
    Reading symbols from = /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libm.so.6...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libm.so.6
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libutil.so.1...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libutil.so.1
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libc.so.6...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libc.so.6
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libdl.so.2...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libdl.so.2
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6
    Reading symbols from = /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/ld-linux.so.2
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libnss_files.so.2...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libnss_files.so.2
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libnss_nis.so.2...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libnss_nis.so.2
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libnsl.so.1...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libnsl.so.1
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libnss_dns.so.2...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libnss_dns.so.2
    Reading symbols from = /lib/libresolv.so.2...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /lib/libresolv.so.2
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/common/xlcDef.so.2...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/common/xlcDef.so.2
    Reading symbols from = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/common/ximcp.so.2...done.
    Loaded symbols for = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/common/ximcp.so.2
    #0  0x105a2d01 in kill () = from /lib/libc.so.6
    (gdb) where
    #0  0x105a2d01 in kill () = from /lib/libc.so.6
    #1  0x080ca7c5 in = fatal_error_signal (sig=3D11) at emacs.c:3543
    #2  0x105a2c88 in sigaction = () from /lib/libc.so.6
    #3  0x08244fd0 in = find_window_mirror_internal (win=3D140458736, rmir=3D0x85d8cd0, = w=3D0x85f1838) at window.c:593
    #4  0x0824510f in = find_window_mirror (w=3D0x85f1838) at window.c:657
    #5  0x08245397 in = window_display_lines (w=3D0x85f1838, which=3D0) at window.c:704
    #6  0x081c8f44 in = redraw_cursor_in_window (w=3D0x85f1838, run_end_begin_meths=3D1) at = redisplay-output.c:1130
    #7  0x081cd064 in = redisplay_redraw_cursor (f=3D0x859d798, run_end_begin_meths=3D1) at = redisplay-output.c:1200
    #8  0x080e3808 in = emacs_handle_focus_change_preliminary (frame_inp_and_dev=3D139691656) at = event-stream.c:1789
    #9  0x0821eb0c in = handle_focus_event_2 (win=3D79692099, f=3D0x859d798, in_p=3D1) at = event-Xt.c:1609
    #10 0x0822178d in = emacs_Xt_handle_widget_losing_focus (f=3D0x859d798, = losing_widget=3D0x85d85b8) at event-Xt.c:1542
    #11 0x0822c16d in = x_unmap_subwindow (p=3D0x85b8df0) at glyphs-x.c:2041
    #12 0x0814b807 in = unmap_subwindow (subwindow=3D140217840) at glyphs.c:4777
    #13 0x0814b080 in = unmap_subwindow_instance_cache_mapper (key=3D138771656, = value=3D140217840, finalize=3D0x1) at glyphs.c:4462
    #14 0x080c7b43 in elisp_maphash = (function=3D0x814ae54 <unmap_subwindow_instance_cache_mapper>, = hash_table=3D138160928, extra_arg=3D0x1) at elhash.c:1397

    #15 0x0824828f in = mark_window_as_deleted (w=3D0x85ac5f0) at window.c:2062
    #16 0x08248c8c in Fdelete_window = (window=3D140166640, force=3D275722116) at window.c:2305
    #17 0x080d1a3f in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffb4d4) at eval.c:3842
    #18 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x8589658 = "=C2\t!\031\t=AB\023=C3\t!=AB=F9=C2\t!\030=C4\t!\210\b\021)=AA=EC)=C5= \t!=AB\a=C6=C5\t!!\207=C7\t!\006=C6=C7\t!!\207H", = stack_depth=3D3,

        = constants_data=3D0x107841a8) at bytecode.c:603
    #19 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffb7f4) at eval.c:3452
    #20 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x8589208 = "=C3\b!\032=C4\n!=AE\004=C5\n!\211\031\004=C6\t!*\207", = stack_depth=3D3, constants_data=3D0x107841d8) at = bytecode.c:603

    #21 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffbb14) at eval.c:3452
    #22 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (
        = program=3D0x860ecd8 = "=C6\211\021\020=C7\026\035=C8\f!\210=C9\r!\210=CA\f!\036\034=CB\r=C6= H\vs=AC\006=CC=CD\r\"\210\r=CEH=CF=D0\f!!Z=C7=D0\f!#\210=D1=D0\f!!\2= 10=C7\032=D2\r\016\034\r=C6H\vs=AC\006=CC=D3\r\"\210\r=D4H=D5$\210\n= =AB\005=D1\n!\210*\r=C6H\vs=AC\006=CC=D6\r\"\210\r=D7H\021\r=C6H\vs=AC= \006=CC=D8\r\"\210\r=D9H\020\r=C6H\vs=AC\006=CC=DA\r\"\210\r=DB= Hq\207", stack_depth=3D7, constants_data=3D0x10784204) at = bytecode.c:603

    #23 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D3, args=3D0xbfffbe44) at eval.c:3452
    #24 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x8585c10 = "\n=C3H\bs=AC\006=C4=C5\n\"\210\n=C6H\031=C7\t!\r=C8\n=C9 = \"?\005=CA\t\n\")\207", stack_depth=3D3, = constants_data=3D0x107843a4)

        at = bytecode.c:603
    #25 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffc164) at eval.c:3452
    #26 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (program=3D0xbfffc280 = "\fq\210=C6\f!\210=C7\022=C8 \210\r=AB\020=C9\v!=AB\v\t=CA = a=AB\005=CB\v!\210\r=AB\005=CC\r!\210=CC\b!\207=C4=FF=BF=F2\031\r\b"= , stack_depth=3D2,

        = constants_data=3D0x1076c68c) at bytecode.c:603
    #27 0x0809db8f in Fbyte_code = (instructions=3D276500612, constants=3D276219516, stack_depth=3D5) at = bytecode.c:2251
    #28 0x080d0bf5 in Feval = (form=3D275911104) at eval.c:3599
    #29 0x080d5aad in Fprogn = (args=3D275911116) at eval.c:953
    #30 0x080d4981 in = unbind_to_hairy (count=3D0) at eval.c:6036
    #31 0x080d78bc in unbind_to_1 = (count=3D0, value=3D275722116) at eval.c:5988
    #32 0x080cdac0 in = throw_or_bomb_out (tag=3D139674672, val=3D139203368, bomb_out_p=3D0, = sig=3D275722116, data=3D275722116) at eval.c:1582

    #33 0x080cecea in Fsignal = (error_symbol=3D275696004, data=3D275722116) at eval.c:2392
    #34 0x080d1a3f in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D3, args=3D0xbfffcc74) at eval.c:3842
    #35 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (
        = program=3D0x85c1f40 "\016K=AC\022=C6 =C7V=AB\f=C8 =C9 = a=AB\005=CA=CB!\210\016A=AB\021\016A=C7V=AB\v=C6 \016AY=AB\004=CC = \210\f=AB\035\f9=AB\r=CD\f!=AC\024=CA=CE\f\"\210=AA\r=CD\f@!=AC\a=CA= =CE\f@\"\210=CF =AB\t=D0=D1=D2\016L!\"\210\016B\036C=C8 = \036D=D3 \036M=C9 \031=C6 =C7a=AB\006=D4\t!=AA\b=D5=D6=D7=C6 = \"!\030=D8\t!\211\036E=D3 a?\005=D9\016E!\036N=D9 = \036O\f\e\016<\036P=DA\216=DB\b!q\210\016C\026B=DC=DD!\210=DE\026\035=DC= =DF!\210=DC=E0!\210=DC=E1!\210=E2\026\037=E3\026 = \016F=AB\025=DC=E4!\210\016$=AC\004=E5\026$=DC=E6!"..., = stack_depth=3D6, constants_data=3D0x10788078) at = bytecode.c:603

    #36 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D8, args=3D0xbfffcfa4) at eval.c:3452
    #37 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (
        = program=3D0x8515fd0 = "\r=AC\004\016\017\025=C6\r=C7\"\025\016\020=AC\a\v=AC\004=C8=AA= \021\v=AB\v=C9\r\vP!\rGB=AA\004=C9\r!\034\016\021\r\b=C7a?\002=C7=CA= \036\022\036\023\036\024\036\025=CB\016\026\f\b=AC\005\016\027=AA\003\016= \030=CA\016\031=CA\n&\a,\211\031=AC\006=CC=CD!=AA\027\n=AB\021\t\f:=AB= \005\f@=AA\002\fk=AB\004\n=AA\004=CE\t!*\207", stack_depth=3D9, = constants_data=3D0x1076cf78) at bytecode.c:603

    #38 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D8, args=3D0xbfffd2e4) at eval.c:3452
    #39 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (
        = program=3D0x852d0a0 = "\0161=C6a\032=C7=C8!\034\n\004=C9=CA!\031=C9=CA!\030=CB = \035=CC\211\e\036.=CC\0362=CD\216=CE\f!\210=CF\r!\210=D0\0364=D1=CC=D2\r!= =D3Z\"\210)\n=AB\e=D4=D5!\210=D6\r!\023=D7\r!\026.=D8\v\f\"\210= =D8\016.\t\"\210=AA\n=D9\r!\023=D8\v\f\"\210\f\t\v\016.F\0262=D8= =DA\r!\b\"\210=DB\036/\fq\210=DC=DD\016/\"\210\n=AB\n\tq\210=DC= =DD\016/\"\210)=DE=DF=E0\"\210\bq\210=E1\0163!\210\0160=AB\005\= 0160\0265=E2=E3!=AB\b=E4\0166=E5\b#\210=E6c\210=E7=E8=E9=EA\"!\210=E6= c\210=E7=E8=EB=EC\"!\210=ED\0167\0163\0160\0168\0169\016:\0161"= ..., stack_depth=3D9, constants_data=3D0x1078752c) at = bytecode.c:603

    #40 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D8, args=3D0xbfffd624) at eval.c:3452
    #41 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (program=3D0xbfffd760 = "=C6\r\f\v\n\t\b\016\a&\a\207[\215\n\b", stack_depth=3D8, = constants_data=3D0x10787628) at bytecode.c:603

    #42 0x0809db8f in Fbyte_code = (instructions=3D276655220, constants=3D276330008, stack_depth=3D17) at = bytecode.c:2251
    ---Type <return> to = continue, or q <return> to quit---
    #43 0x080d0bf5 in Feval = (form=3D276132408) at eval.c:3599
    #44 0x080ce051 in = run_condition_case_handlers (val=3D139667400, var=3D275722116) at = eval.c:953
    #45 0x080cddc2 in = condition_case_1 (handlers=3D276132504, bfun=3D0x80d0330 <Feval>, = barg=3D276133140, hfun=3D0x80cdf38 <run_condition_case_handlers>, = harg=3D275722116) at eval.c:1901

    #46 0x080ce437 in = condition_case_3 (bodyform=3D276133140, var=3D275722116, = handlers=3D276132504) at eval.c:2002
    #47 0x0809b50c in = execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=3D0xbfffe01c, program_ptr=3D0x85b9f78 = "\207=CA=CB=CC\"\210=CD\r\f\v\n\t\b\016\016&\a\207", = opcode=3DBcondition_case) at bytecode.c:1128

    #48 0x0809a500 in = execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x85b9f70 "=C6 = =AB\006=C7=C8=C9\217\207=CA=CB=CC\"\210=CD\r\f\v\n\t\b\016\016&\= a\207", stack_depth=3D8, constants_data=3D0x10787b84) at = bytecode.c:507

    #49 0x080d1f87 in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D9, args=3D0xbfffe354) at eval.c:3452
    #50 0x0809a753 in = execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x85bb670 = "=C6=C7\v=AE\002=C8\n\f\t=AE\025\r=AB\n=C9=CA\r\f\"=CB\"=AE= \t\b\006=C9\016\r=CB\"\016\016\r=CC&\b\207", = stack_depth=3D9, constants_data=3D0x10787bd0)

        at = bytecode.c:603
    #51 0x080d1307 in Feval = (form=3D275902644) at eval.c:3452
    #52 0x080d0d09 in Feval = (form=3D275902668) at eval.c:3617
    #53 0x0809e7da in = Fcall_interactively (function=3D275707596, record_flag=3D275722116, = keys=3D275722116) at callint.c:402
    #54 0x080d1a3f in Ffuncall = (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbffff1d8) at eval.c:3842
    #55 0x080d69bb in call1 = (fn=3D275657052, arg0=3D275707596) at eval.c:4487
    #56 0x080e7d90 in = execute_command_event (command_builder=3D0x84cf3e8, event=3D140248712) = at event-stream.c:4205
    #57 0x080e897f in = Fdispatch_event (event=3D140248712) at event-stream.c:4561
    #58 0x080a6ac4 in = Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:569
    #59 0x080a6d53 in command_loop_1 = (dummy=3D275722116) at cmdloop.c:488
    #60 0x080cde27 in = condition_case_1 (handlers=3D275720028, bfun=3D0x80a6d14 = <command_loop_1>, barg=3D275722116, hfun=3D0x80a6db8 = <cmd_error>, harg=3D275722116) at eval.c:1917

    #61 0x080a6f90 in command_loop_2 = (dummy=3D275722116) at cmdloop.c:251
    #62 0x080cd9b9 in internal_catch = (tag=3D275506812, func=3D0x80a6f48 <command_loop_2>, = arg=3D275722116, threw=3D0x0, thrown_tag=3D0x0) at = eval.c:1527

    #63 0x080a6754 in = initial_command_loop (load_me=3D275722116) at cmdloop.c:300
    #64 0x080c97d3 in = xemacs_21_5_b15_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2403
    #65 0x080ca189 in main = (argc=3D1, argv=3D0xbffffb64, envp=3D0xbffffb6c) at emacs.c:2833
    #66 0x1058f914 in = __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6



    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A53C.EB46F896-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 10:29:35 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7FS2v07633; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:28:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7FQgU07217 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:26:42 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7FQc007194 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:26:38 -0500 Received: from atlrel6.hp.com (atlrel6.hp.com [156.153.255.205]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7FQVv07152 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:26:36 -0500 Received: from smtp2.fc.hp.com (smtp.fc.hp.com [15.15.136.253]) by atlrel6.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADDF1C02A28 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpesjfh.fc.hp.com (hpesjfh.fc.hp.com [15.6.89.203]) by smtp2.fc.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26E9245D9 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:22:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by hpesjfh.fc.hp.com (Postfix, from userid 24497) id C363713FB0; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:22:07 -0700 (MST) From: John Hutton To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.14] gnus posting problem Reply-To: john_hutton@hp.com Message-Id: <20031107152207.C363713FB0@hpesjfh.fc.hp.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:22:07 -0700 (MST) X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I've just upgraded to 21.4.14 with most of the latest packages. I'm trying to post a message to a newsgroup and get the following error. Signaling: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "sha1-el") load-internal("sha1-el" nil nil nil nil nil) load("sha1-el" nil nil nil) sha1("h3ihe1gmcj9.fsf28caecbd31767ca51fe9e6a[# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #]((136157 . 4700) (29210 . 0) (204 . 91) 1783811 654536 (conses-used 136157 conses-free 4700 cons-storage 1694476 symbols-used 29210 symbols-free 0 symbol-storage 703136 bit-vectors-used 0 bit-vectors-total-length 0 bit-vector-storage 0 compiled-functions-used 6320 compiled-functions-free 0 compiled-function-storage 178176 short-strings-used 68795 long-strings-used 1036 strings-free 4993 short-strings-total-length 1713866 short-string-storage 2203648 long-strings-total-length 69945 string-header-storage 1201240 floats-used 302 floats-free 79 float-storage 6120 markers-used 204 markers-free 91 marker-storage 8176 events-used 151 events-free 36 event-storage 21736 extents-used 461 extents-free 541 extent-storage 28 672 case-tables-used 2 case-table-storage 56 faces-used 127 face-storage 9652 glyphs-used 137 glyph-storage 6028 image-instances-used 87 image-instance-storage 11136 font-instances-used 5 font-instance-storage 180 color-instances-used 11 color-instance-storage 264 toolbar-buttons-used 30 toolbar-button-storage 2640 popup-datas-used 2 popup-data-storage 48 window-configurations-used 12 window-configurations-on-free-list 2 window-configuration-storage 9072 windows-used 5 window-storage 2720 frames-used 2 frame-storage 688 devices-used 2 device-storage 336 consoles-used 4 console-storage 416 specifiers-used 1876 specifier-storage 118424 timeouts-used 1 timeouts-on-free-list 1 timeout-storage 40 command-builders-used 2 command-builder-storage 112 keymaps-used 376 keymap-storage 15040 extent-auxiliarys-used 205 extent-auxiliary-storage 11480 extent-infos-used 46 extent-infos-freed 2 extent-info-storage 920 buffers-used 22 buffers-freed 2 buffer-storage 5984 opaque-ptrs-used 1 opa que-ptrs-on-free-list 5 opaque-ptr-storage 16 opaques-used 1141 opaque-storage 118488 range-tables-used 1 range-table-storage 16 char-tables-used 43 char-table-storage 45064 processes-used 2 process-storage 144 streams-used 5 streams-on-free-list 3 streams-freed 1 stream-storage 504 hash-tables-used 954 hash-tables-freed 18 hash-table-storage 61056 weak-lists-used 1913 weak-list-storage 45912 lcrecord-lists-used 15 lcrecord-list-storage 360 vectors-used 9011 vectors-freed 364 vector-storage 646468 symbol-value-buffer-locals-used 200 symbol-value-buffer-local-storage 7200 symbol-value-lisp-magics-used 24 symbol-value-lisp-magic-storage 1728 symbol-value-varaliases-used 49 symbol-value-varalias-storage 1372))") message-canlock-generate() message-canlock-password() message-insert-canlock() message-send-news(nil) message-send-via-news(nil) message-send(nil) message-send-and-exit(nil) call-interactively(message-send-and-exit) Here's the stack trace. # bind (standard-output stack-trace-on-signal debug-on-signal stack-trace-on-error debug-on-error) re-search-forward("^========$") # (unwind-protect ...) message-check-news-body-syntax() # bind (result message-posting-charset message-this-is-news message-syntax-checks messbuf rfc2047-header-encoding-alist followup-field-charset group-field-charset followup-field newsgroups-field method case-fold-search tembuf arg) message-send-news(nil) # bind (arg) message-send-via-news(nil) # bind (alist success elem sent dont-barf-on-no-method message-options arg) message-send(nil) # bind (buf actions arg) message-send-and-exit(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(message-send-and-exit) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch exit ...) # bind (standard-input standard-output) # (unwind-protect ...) recursive-edit() # bind (inhibit-trace standard-output buffer-read-only) byte-code("..." [print-escape-newlines print-length debugger-buffer debugger-value standard-output debugger-args pop-to-buffer erase-buffer t 50 backtrace debugger-mode re-search-forward "\n[* ] debug(" 1 debugger-reenable (lambda debug) "Entering:\n" debug backtrace-debug 3 delete-char ?* 0 exit "Return value: " prin1 ?\n ?\ error "Signaling: " "Beginning evaluation of function call form:\n" nil message "" recursive-edit buffer-read-only inhibit-trace] 3) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (last-command this-command unread-command-event last-input-event last-input-char last-input-time last-command-event last-command-char overriding-local-map load-read-function standard-input standard-output cursor-in-echo-area) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (debugger-value debug-on-error debug-on-quit debug-on-signal debugger-buffer debugger-old-buffer debugger-step-after-exit executing-macro debugger-outer-match-data debugger-outer-load-read-function debugger-outer-overriding-local-map debugger-outer-last-command debugger-outer-this-command debugger-outer-unread-command-event debugger-outer-unread-command-events debugger-outer-last-input-event debugger-outer-last-input-char debugger-outer-last-input-time debugger-outer-last-command-event debugger-outer-last-command-char debugger-outer-standard-input debugger-outer-standard-output debugger-outer-cursor-in-echo-area debugger-args) debug(error (file-error "Cannot open load file" "sha1-el")) # (catch debugger ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (stack-trace-on-signal debug-on-signal stack-trace-on-error debug-on-error) load-internal("sha1-el" nil nil nil nil nil) # bind (nosuffix nomessage noerror file) load("sha1-el" nil nil nil) # (unwind-protect ...) sha1("h3ihe1gmcj9.fsf28caecbd31767ca51fe9e6a[# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #]((136157 . 4700) (29210 . 0) (204 . 91) 1783811 654536 (conses-used 136157 conses-free 4700 cons-storage 1694476 symbols-used 29210 symbols-free 0 symbol-storage 703136 bit-vectors-used 0 bit-vectors-total-length 0 bit-vector-storage 0 compiled-functions-used 6320 compiled-functions-free 0 compiled-function-storage 178176 short-strings-used 68795 long-strings-used 1036 strings-free 4993 short-strings-total-length 1713866 short-string-storage 2203648 long-strings-total-length 69945 string-header-storage 1201240 floats-used 302 floats-free 79 float-storage 6120 markers-used 204 markers-free 91 marker-storage 8176 events-used 151 events-free 36 event-storage 21736 extents-used 461 extents-free 541 extent-storage 28 672 case-tables-used 2 case-table-storage 56 faces-used 127 face-storage 9652 glyphs-used 137 glyph-storage 6028 image-instances-used 87 image-instance-storage 11136 font-instances-used 5 font-instance-storage 180 color-instances-used 11 color-instance-storage 264 toolbar-buttons-used 30 toolbar-button-storage 2640 popup-datas-used 2 popup-data-storage 48 window-configurations-used 12 window-configurations-on-free-list 2 window-configuration-storage 9072 windows-used 5 window-storage 2720 frames-used 2 frame-storage 688 devices-used 2 device-storage 336 consoles-used 4 console-storage 416 specifiers-used 1876 specifier-storage 118424 timeouts-used 1 timeouts-on-free-list 1 timeout-storage 40 command-builders-used 2 command-builder-storage 112 keymaps-used 376 keymap-storage 15040 extent-auxiliarys-used 205 extent-auxiliary-storage 11480 extent-infos-used 46 extent-infos-freed 2 extent-info-storage 920 buffers-used 22 buffers-freed 2 buffer-storage 5984 opaque-ptrs-used 1 opa que-ptrs-on-free-list 5 opaque-ptr-storage 16 opaques-used 1141 opaque-storage 118488 range-tables-used 1 range-table-storage 16 char-tables-used 43 char-table-storage 45064 processes-used 2 process-storage 144 streams-used 5 streams-on-free-list 3 streams-freed 1 stream-storage 504 hash-tables-used 954 hash-tables-freed 18 hash-table-storage 61056 weak-lists-used 1913 weak-list-storage 45912 lcrecord-lists-used 15 lcrecord-list-storage 360 vectors-used 9011 vectors-freed 364 vector-storage 646468 symbol-value-buffer-locals-used 200 symbol-value-buffer-local-storage 7200 symbol-value-lisp-magics-used 24 symbol-value-lisp-magic-storage 1728 symbol-value-varaliases-used 49 symbol-value-varalias-storage 1372))") # bind (sha1-maximum-internal-length) message-canlock-generate() message-canlock-password() message-insert-canlock() # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (result message-posting-charset message-this-is-news message-syntax-checks messbuf rfc2047-header-encoding-alist followup-field-charset group-field-charset followup-field newsgroups-field method case-fold-search tembuf arg) message-send-news(nil) # bind (arg) message-send-via-news(nil) # bind (alist success elem sent dont-barf-on-no-method message-options arg) message-send(nil) # bind (buf actions arg) message-send-and-exit(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(message-send-and-exit) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Any ideas? Thanks for the help. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: HP-UX hpesjfh B.11.00 U 9000/785 2000025340 unlimited-user license ./configure '--prefix=/usr' XEmacs 21.4.14 "Reasonable Discussion" configured for `hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.00'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/xemacs-21.4.14 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/hpux11.h' Machine description file: `m/hp800.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -fno-strict-aliasing -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/contrib/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/lib/X11R6 /usr/contrib/X11R6/lib - Xau (X authority) not available. - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for Motif. *WARNING* Many versions of Motif are buggy, requiring workarounds. You are likely to experience slow redisplay. You may need to install vendor patches to Motif. See PROBLEMS for more information. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. TTY: Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Sound: Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- nil Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((xemacs-devel:version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.81 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.17 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) (time :version 1.13 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.66 :type single-file) (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .89 :type single-file) (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (mh-e :version 1.25 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.62 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.11 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (eterm :version 1.14 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.1 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (efs :version 1.31 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.19 :type regular) (dired :version 1.14 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.4 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.17 :type single-file) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.17 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (xemacsbug shadow byte-optimize bytecomp byte-compile gnus-ml disp-table timezone nndraft nnmh efs-cu gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 gpg timer mm-view gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo nntp nnoo nnmail mail-source format-spec gnus-cache gnus-start gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message mml mml-sec mml-smime smime comint ring dig mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap lpr mail-parse rfc2045 rfc2231 rfc2047 qp ietf-drums mail-abbrevs sendmail rfc822 mailheader canlock gnus-win gnus gnus-ems gnus-xmas messagexmas nnheader nnheaderxm gnus-util netrc time-date parse-time mail-utils mm-util mail-prsvr wid-edit time gnuserv cus-face filladapt avoid backup-dir vc-hooks xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads view-process-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads text-modes-autoloads supercite-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sh-script-autoloads rmail-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads efs-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads debug-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads c-support-autoloads apel-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads games-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs gutter png gif xpm xbm lisp-float-type hpux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- button1 button1up C-n C-n RET misc-user P u b l i c SPC G u y BS BS y m ? C-n C-n C-n C-n C-x i / t m p / f r e d . s c TAB RET RET C-c C-c C-x misc-user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Parsing /home/jfh/Mail/.aliases... Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Cannot open load file: sha1-el Sending... Parsing /home/jfh/Mail/.aliases... done Parsing /home/jfh/Mail/.aliases... Generating summary...done Generating summary... Fetching headers for hpnc.general...done Fetching headers for hpnc.general... Loading gnus-ml...done Loading gnus-ml... Loading disp-table...done Loading disp-table... Retrieving newsgroup: hpnc.general... Checking new news...done Checking new news... No new newsgroups Loading timezone...done -- | Hewlett-Packard Company Internal E-Mail: jfh@hpesjfh.fc.hp.com | John Hutton MS-88 External E-Mail: john_hutton@hp.com | Bldg. 6, Dock A Phone: 970-898-4497 | 3404 E. Harmony Road Fax: 970-898-6439 | Fort Collins, CO. 80528-9599 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 11:40:38 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7Gd1v06443; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:39:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7Gc6m06075 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:38:06 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7Gc4g06058 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:38:04 -0500 Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu (stephens.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7Gc4v06052 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:38:04 -0500 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu (diannao.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.126.112]) by stephens.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/ITTC-ANTISPAM-ANTIVIRUS-3.0) with ESMTP id hA7GbwGJ020021; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:37:58 -0600 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/KU-4.0-client) id hA7Gbv3i017590; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:37:57 -0600 Received: (from james@localhost) by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hA7GbvXW017588; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:37:57 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: diannao.ittc.ku.edu: james set sender to james@eecs.ku.edu using -f To: john_hutton@hp.com Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] gnus posting problem References: <20031107152207.C363713FB0@hpesjfh.fc.hp.com> From: Jerry James X-Face: +5(Pfr,;N>q#6NT,Qi5^TQh-MaUnz#kGN~OW[CQj~RS+sIor( '_8K^f9u^Y#.N`>9oKN$\JpI Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:37:57 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20031107152207.C363713FB0@hpesjfh.fc.hp.com> (John Hutton's message of "Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:22:07 -0700 (MST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-VirusScan: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , John Hutton wrote: > I've just upgraded to 21.4.14 with most of the latest packages. I'm trying > to post a message to a newsgroup and get the following error. > > Signaling: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "sha1-el") You need to install the ecrypto package, which contains that file. Regards, -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 11:58:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7Gv1v14711; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:57:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7GuLG14481 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:56:21 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7GuKW14462 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:56:20 -0500 Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu (stephens.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7GuJv14455 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:56:20 -0500 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu (diannao.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.126.112]) by stephens.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/ITTC-ANTISPAM-ANTIVIRUS-3.0) with ESMTP id hA7GuEGJ021159 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0600 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/KU-4.0-client) id hA7GuE3i017627; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0600 Received: (from james@localhost) by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hA7GuEjS017625; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: diannao.ittc.ku.edu: james set sender to james@eecs.ku.edu using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Cygwin liaison From: Jerry James X-Face: +5(Pfr,;N>q#6NT,Qi5^TQh-MaUnz#kGN~OW[CQj~RS+sIor( '_8K^f9u^Y#.N`>9oKN$\JpI Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0600 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-VirusScan: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , One of the Cygwin developers put out a call for an XEmacs liaison. Nobody else responded, so I did. I'm not the ideal candidate; I don't really have time to do a good job in that role, so if somebody else wants to take over, I'll gladly abdicate. Assuming that nobody else wants the job, how should I package XEmacs to go into a Cygwin release? I'm thinking specifically of the pacakges here; I can handle the rest. Should I turn the sumo into a Cygwin package and update it whenever new packages are released? Should the netinstaller be involved at all? Any feedback is much appreciated. -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 12:50:35 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7Hn5v02377; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:49:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7HmuT02317 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:48:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7Hmp102280 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:48:51 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7Hmov02276 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:48:50 -0500 Received: from p50831d72.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.29.114] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AIAiu-000FCB-Dc for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:48:40 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AIAl2-000H5g-Se for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:50:52 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Cygwin liaison References: From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Jerry James's message of "Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jerry James writes: Jerry, > Assuming that nobody else wants the job, how should I package XEmacs to > go into a Cygwin release? I'm thinking specifically of the pacakges > here; I can handle the rest. Should I turn the sumo into a Cygwin > package and update it whenever new packages are released? Should the > netinstaller be involved at all? Any feedback is much appreciated. I would say, go for the SUMO and stay with it. It's the easiest way for you, only two files. I can provide them with every official release. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 12:53:22 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7Hq1v03613; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:52:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7HpV203297 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:51:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7HpT103266 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:51:29 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7HpTv03261 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:51:29 -0500 Received: from p50831d72.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.29.114] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AIAlc-000FV6-Bk for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:51:28 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AIAnp-000H5w-HK for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:53:45 +0100 To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: [Q Re: [V PACKAGES (latin-unity)] Fix build. (generate latin-unity-tables.el) References: <877k2hakqu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87brrtv796.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:53:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:03:05 +1000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > SJT> Is this deletion necessary? > > No, I just commented it out for cleanliness because it wasn't going to > be used by the XPRM. But having it in there won't hurt anything. > It's going to be needed if/when building the tables becomes a safe > thing to do for everyone, so feel free to uncomment it again. > > Anyone who wanted to build their own tables could simply 'make > latin-unity-tables.el' from latin-unity's source directory. > > SJT> If it's necessary, how about a rule > > SJT> .PHONY: build-table > SJT> build-table: latin-unity-vars.elc latin-unity-utils.elc > > [...] > > This would work too, but I wouldn't do it because if/when the tables > are _always_ built this would need to be renamed to > "latin-unity-tables.el". It might get forgotten. Have you decided what to do with the package now? I would like to release new packages and would prefer to see this change committed beforehand, so I can put out the new version of the package. Thanks, norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 14:23:35 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7JM5v10650; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:22:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7JL2010358 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:21:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7JKq110309 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:20:52 -0500 Received: from kluster1.contactor.se (kluster1.contactor.se [193.15.23.11]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7JKov10302 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:20:50 -0500 Received: from spencer (linux3.contactor.se [193.15.23.23]) by kluster1.contactor.se (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA7JKdun023379; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:20:40 +0100 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Sync browse-url.el with FSF From: Mats Lidell Organization: Contactor Data References: X-Face: #[2| (Simon Josefsson's message of "Fri, 07 Nov 2003 00:22:46 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , (Moved discussion to xemacs-beta) >>>>> Simon wrote: Simon> Would it be possible to expand on the ChangeLog, detailing what Simon> was changed? Perhaps by copying the Emacs ChangeLog entries. As always this was a bit tricker than expected. It is hard, or maybe just boring, or both to reverse engineer the ChangeLog. ;-) But when that is done it is also a matter of style. Should I write one ChangeLog entry and in that include the change log entries from the GNU Emacs ChangeLog like this? Please note that I have kept the dates, for reference. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 2003-11-06 Mats Lidell * browse-url.el: Sync up with GNU Emacs CVS version 1.32 including the following changes. (2003-07-31) John Paul Wallington * browse-url.el (browse-url-epiphany): Doc fix. (2003-07-07) Richard M. Stallman * net/browse-url.el (browse-url-browser-function): Add alternative for Epiphany. ...... 2003-10-31 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.63 released. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Would that be appropriate and would it make sense or should I use some other scheme? Yours -- %% Mats From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 14:42:41 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7Jf4v16270; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:41:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7JeGf16078 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:40:16 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7JeFW16069 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:40:15 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7JeCv16061 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:40:12 -0500 Received: from Robinows@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id i.70.3473b45a (3956); Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:39:57 -0500 (EST) From: Robinows@aol.com Message-ID: <70.3473b45a.2cdd4f0d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:39:57 EST Subject: Re: transpose columns in region To: oub@mat.ucm.es, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1068233997" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 4101 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_10,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , -------------------------------1068233997 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/7/2003 6:12:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, oub@mat.ucm.es writes: I would like to transpose columns in matrix like construct like this 1 2 2 1 1 2 --> 2 1 1 2 2 1 I can do this by hand via kill and yank rectangle, but does anybody know about a package which does this. I searched in the web without success >From the Emacs Calc manual: "The v v (calc-reverse-vector) [vec] command reverses a vector end-for-end. Given a matrix, it reverses the order of the rows. (To reverse the columns instead, just use v t v v v t. The same principle can be used to apply other vector commands to the columns of a matrix.) " You'll have to do some reading to figure out how to get matrices in and out of Calc. -------------------------------1068233997 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    In a message dated 11/7/2003 6:12:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, oub@mat.= ucm.es writes:
    I would like to transpose columns in matrix li= ke construct like this

    1 2        2 1
    1 2 --&g= t;    2 1
    1 2        2 1

    I can do th= is by hand via kill and yank rectangle, but does anybody
    know about a pac= kage which does this. I searched in the web without
    success

    From th= e Emacs Calc manual:

    "The v v (calc-reverse-vector) [vec]= command reverses a vector end-for-end. Given a matrix, it reverses the orde= r of the rows. (To reverse the columns instead, just use v t v v v t. The same principle can be used to apply other vector commands to the co= lumns of a matrix.) "

    You'll have to do some reading to figure out how to get matrices in and o= ut of Calc.

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Try these and report back. Good Luck, Adrian (defun apa-transpose-rectangles (start1 end1 start2 end2) "Transpose two rectangles of equal geometry in buffer. It is an error for the rectangles to be of different geometry. It is an error for the first rectangle not to be active when this command is called interactively. Press \\[exit-recursive-edit] after selecting the second rectangle of equal geometry." (interactive (let ((mouse-track-rectangle-p t) s1 e1 s2 e2 r1) (unless (region-active-p) (error "first rectangle is not active")) (zmacs-deactivate-region) (activate-region) (setq s1 (region-beginning)) (setq e1 (region-end)) (setq r1 (extract-rectangle s1 e1)) (message "select another %dx%d rectangle, then press %s" (length (car r1)) (length r1) (substitute-command-keys "\\[exit-recursive-edit]")) (recursive-edit) (setq s2 (region-beginning)) (setq e2 (region-end)) (list s1 e1 s2 e2))) (let ((rect1 (extract-rectangle start1 end1)) (rect2 (extract-rectangle start2 end2))) (unless (equal (mapcar (lambda (l) (length l)) rect1) (mapcar (lambda (l) (length l)) rect2)) (error "rectangles are of different geometry: %dx%d vs %dx%d" (length (car rect1)) (length rect1) (length (car rect2)) (length rect2))) (delete-rectangle start1 end1) (goto-char start1) (insert-rectangle rect2) (delete-rectangle start2 end2) (goto-char start2) (insert-rectangle rect1))) (defun apa-transpose-regions (start1 end1 start2 end2 &optional leave-markers) "Transpose two regions in buffer. It is an error for the first region not to be active when this command is called interactively. Press \\[exit-recursive-edit] after selecting the second region." (interactive (let ((cb (current-buffer)) (zmacs-region-stays nil) s1 e1 s2 e2) (setq s1 (region-beginning cb)) (setq e1 (region-end cb)) (message "select another region, then press %s" (substitute-command-keys "\\[exit-recursive-edit]")) (recursive-edit) (setq s2 (region-beginning cb)) (setq e2 (region-end cb)) (list s1 e1 s2 e2 t))) (transpose-regions start1 end1 start2 end2 leave-markers)) Uwe> I can do this by hand via kill and yank rectangle, but does anybody Uwe> know about a package which does this. I searched in the web without Uwe> success Uwe> Thanks Uwe> Uwe Brauer -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 7 20:15:32 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA81E2v09212; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:14:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA81DVQ09127 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:13:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA81DSa09116 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:13:28 -0500 Received: from yxa.extundo.com (178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net [217.13.230.178]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA81DRv09111 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:13:28 -0500 Received: from latte (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA81DG1K009046; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 02:13:25 +0100 To: Mats Lidell Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Sync browse-url.el with FSF References: From: Simon Josefsson X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031108:matsl@contactor.se:c23bfd722f6b0597 X-Hashcash: 0:031108:matsl@contactor.se:c23bfd722f6b0597 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031108:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:726d26c6d3e92aea X-Hashcash: 0:031108:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:726d26c6d3e92aea Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 02:13:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Mats Lidell's message of "Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:20:39 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Mats Lidell writes: > (Moved discussion to xemacs-beta) > >>>>>> Simon wrote: > > Simon> Would it be possible to expand on the ChangeLog, detailing what > Simon> was changed? Perhaps by copying the Emacs ChangeLog entries. > > As always this was a bit tricker than expected. It is hard, or maybe > just boring, or both to reverse engineer the ChangeLog. ;-) 'cvs log' on smtpmail.el should help. > But when that is done it is also a matter of style. Should I write one > ChangeLog entry and in that include the change log entries from the > GNU Emacs ChangeLog like this? Please note that I have kept the dates, > for reference. I'm not speaking for the XEmacs community, and I'm not aware of any policy, so this is just my humble opinion: Follow the GNU ChangeLog syntax (see GNU Coding Standards) as close as possible, unless it is unreasonable. So the following > 2003-11-06 Mats Lidell > > * browse-url.el: Sync up with GNU Emacs CVS version 1.32 including > the following changes. > > (2003-07-31) John Paul Wallington > > * browse-url.el (browse-url-epiphany): Doc fix. > > (2003-07-07) Richard M. Stallman > > * net/browse-url.el (browse-url-browser-function): > Add alternative for Epiphany. doesn't really match the ChangeLog syntax, and might be confusing when using 'grep', or when using a ChangeLog parser (there exists a few ChangeLog-to-X converters). I'm not sure this is very important, but anyway. If consistency within mail-lib matters, here's what I did in an earlier sync. 2002-09-17 Simon Josefsson * smtpmail.el: Sync with Emacs CVS (following ChangeLog entries from Emacs, until 2002-09-16 change). 2002-09-12 Simon Josefsson * mail/smtpmail.el (smtpmail-send-it): Don't use : in filenames (for cygwin). Suggested by Andrew Senior . Use expand-file-name. Also don't require time-stamp. 2002-09-11 Simon Josefsson * mail/smtpmail.el (smtpmail-default-smtp-server): Doc fix. 2002-08-30 Simon Josefsson * mail/smtpmail.el (smtpmail-via-smtp): Delete process buffer unless s-debug-info is enabled. 2002-05-12 Richard M. Stallman * mail/smtpmail.el (smtpmail-mail-address): New variable. (smtpmail-send-it): Bind and use that instead of `mail-address'. (smtpmail-via-smtp): Likewise. 2002-05-09 Simon Josefsson * mail/smtpmail.el (smtpmail-send-it): Use user-mail-address from calling buffer. 2002-05-08 Richard M. Stallman * mail/smtpmail.el (netrc-machine, netrc-get): Add autoloads. 2002-09-16 Simon Josefsson * Makefile (REQUIRES): Add ecrypto. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 8 18:08:59 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA8N85v18837; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:08:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA8N7cC18750 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:07:38 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA8N7Xu18719 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:07:33 -0500 Received: from yxa.extundo.com (178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net [217.13.230.178]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA8N7Uv18709; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:07:30 -0500 Received: from latte (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA8N7N1L027350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:07:24 +0100 To: Mats Lidell Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Sync browse-url.el with FSF References: From: Simon Josefsson X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031108:matsl@xemacs.org:e916f9da1e839c41 X-Hashcash: 0:031108:matsl@xemacs.org:e916f9da1e839c41 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031108:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:4eb488fcf5dc8172 X-Hashcash: 0:031108:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:4eb488fcf5dc8172 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:07:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Mats Lidell's message of "Sat, 08 Nov 2003 21:32:53 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Mats Lidell writes: >>>>>> Simon wrote: > > Simon> Follow the GNU ChangeLog syntax (see GNU Coding Standards) as > Simon> close as possible, unless it is unreasonable. > > OK. After looking at your example for quite a while I saw how it was > design. In the "sync" entry it is explained that the following entries > up to a date is part of the sync. > > It give the necessary information but can be hard to follow when new > entries are added. I mean, it is easy to miss the sync entry when you > skim through the file. Still it is the best suggestion so far. If I > don't get any other suggestion I'll go by your example when I send in > the modified patch. Then it is up to the reviewers again. Yes, I had basically the same problem when coming up with a ChangeLog entry. My solution follows the ChangeLog syntax, and it maintains the author information, which is the only two things I believe I optimized for. There may be other aspects to consider, though. Since syncing packages from elisp will happen frequently, and consistency of ChangeLog's (even between XEmacs packages) is good, perhaps it would be worthwhile to write down the recommended approach, whatever it may be. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 8 19:10:26 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA90A2v01755; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:10:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9094b01389 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:09:04 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9090x01376 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:09:00 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA908xv01366 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:09:00 -0500 Received: from pd9e6078a.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.230.7.138] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AId8U-000CGI-KV for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:08:58 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AIdAi-000CE2-3t for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:11:16 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [ANNOUNCE] XEmacs Packages have been pre-released 2003-11-09 From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== latin-unity-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.09 Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: ================================================== Sun-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver ada-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.27 apel-1.27-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 10.2 bbdb-1.24-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.34 build-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.02 c-support-1.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver calc-1.24-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.02fX3 calendar-1.22-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver cc-mode-1.41-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 5.30.7 clearcase-1.08-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver cookie-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver crisp-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.34 debug-1.17-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver dired-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 7.11 docbookide-0.07-pkg.tar.gz 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author-version: No-Upstream-Ver time-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 1.17 tm-1.37-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver tooltalk-1.15-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver tpu-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.2X vc-1.38-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver vc-cc-1.22-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver vhdl-1.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.31.20 view-process-1.13-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.4 viper-1.37-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 3.09 vm-7.18-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 7.17 w3-1.29-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.0pre47 x-symbol-1.07-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 4.5.1 xemacs-base-1.82-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver xemacs-devel-1.59-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 21.4 xemacs-devel-1.60-pkg.tar.gz author-version: No-Upstream-Ver xslide-1.09-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 0.2.2 zenirc-1.14-pkg.tar.gz author-version: 2.112 Detailed Changes: ================ - - ------- ChangeLog Entries from mule-packages/latin-unity/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-09 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.09 released. 2003-11-09 Steve Youngs * Makefile (EXTRA_SOURCES): Add `latin-unity-tables.el'. (GENERATED_ELCS): Removed, obsolete. Installing These: ================ Manually: - - -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): - - ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): - - ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. norbert - XEmacs Package Release Manager. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/rYYegu3ywdHdhM0RAqx8AKC4we1QrETnq87XQ+FyItvpEgu2FACglFgo 76EMXwesO/Vyh3Uw/1VcB8s= =bBjr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 8 23:11:25 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA94B2v04304; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:11:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA94AVn04174 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:10:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA94AJJ04131 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:10:19 -0500 Received: from gizmo02bw.email.bigpond.com (gizmo02bw.email.bigpond.com [144.140.70.12] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hA94ABv04085 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:10:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 4681 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2003 04:11:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO eicq.dnsalias.org) (144.135.24.69) by gizmo02bw.email.bigpond.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2003 04:11:21 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-242-88.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.242.88]) by bwmam01bpa.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_3_2d 8/1659741); 09 Nov 2003 14:10:02 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hA91Pgdg014229; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:25:42 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: [Bug: 21.5-b16] (setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)... bad news Keywords: src,ver,upstream,xemacs-21,test-it,steve,home,no-upstream-ver,program,args,nargs,eval From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:25:29 +1000 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dear Bug Team! Remember all those bug reports about XEmacs 21.5 crashing on perl or C files (mostly the reports were from me)? I've dug into it a bit further and have discovered that the culprit is `lookup-syntax-properties'. If you set that to `nil' you get the crash. Here's the recipe: xemacs -vanilla In the scratch buffer, eval `(setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)' Visit a large-ish C or perl file (I used 'src/emacs.c') Do `M-x font-lock-fontify-buffer RET' If XEmacs doesn't crash at this point, just scroll through the file and it will. I ran this under gdb and got these results: Current directory is /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/kkcc-mule-debug/src/ GNU gdb 5.2 Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition= s. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-slackware-linux"... (eicq-gdb) run -vanilla Starting program: /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/kkcc-mule-debug/src/xemac= s -vanilla Fatal error: assertion failed, file /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src= /marker.c, line 325, RECORD_TYPEP (obj, lrecord_type_marker) Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. 0x403c3ac1 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (eicq-gdb) lbt # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) set-extent-properties(# (syntax-table (4 . ?>) start-open t end-open t)) # bind (ext value property pos) c-put-char-property-fun(10810 syntax-table (4 . ?>)) # bind (pos beg-pos end-pos limit) #-as-paren-syntax c-<-as-paren-s= yntax ext beg-pos end-pos pos 8 ?> c-put-char-property-fun syntax-table ext= ent-at nil delete-extent] 5>(10820) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (match-data matcher lowdarks highlights pre-match-value keywords l= imit highlights matcher keyword nkeywords iter old-progress progress bufnam= e keywords case-fold-search loudly loudvar end start) font-lock-fontify-keywords-region(1 136327 nil) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (modified buffer-undo-list inhibit-read-only old-syntax-table buff= er-file-name buffer-file-truename loudly end beg) font-lock-default-fontify-region(1 136327 nil) # bind (loudly end beg) font-lock-fontify-region(1 136327) # (unwind-protect ...) byte-code("..." [font-lock-fontify-region] 3) # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code "=80=C1=8F=A9=10=8F=A7" [aborted t= ] 2)))) # bind (was-on font-lock-verbose font-lock-message-threshold aborted) # (unwind-protect ...) font-lock-default-fontify-buffer() # bind (font-lock-verbose) font-lock-fontify-buffer() # bind (on-p maximum-size arg) font-lock-mode(1) # bind (was-on font-lock-verbose font-lock-message-threshold aborted) # (unwind-protect ...) font-lock-default-fontify-buffer() # bind (font-lock-verbose) #() call-interactively(font-lock-fontify-buffer) command-execute(font-lock-fontify-buffer t) # bind (_execute_command_keys_ _execute_command_name_ prefix-arg) execute-extended-command(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(execute-extended-command) (dispatch-event "[internal]") # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) (eicq-gdb) bt #0 0x403c3ac1 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x403c36eb in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x403c5127 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0x080e5847 in really_abort () at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/sr= c/emacs.c:4363 #4 0x080e47ca in assert_failed (file=3D0x6
    , li= ne=3D1078775076, expr=3D0x0) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/ema= cs.c:3699 #5 0x081c5dbe in byte_marker_position (marker=3D1079075376) at lisp.h:2369 #6 0x0825eac5 in signal_syntax_table_extent_changed (extent=3D0x2a3b) at /= home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/syntax.c:420 #7 0x08119009 in signal_single_extent_changed (extent=3D0x8746660, propert= y=3D1079041104, old_start=3D0, old_end=3D0) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-2= 1.5/src/src/extents.c:1776 #8 0x081191bb in signal_extent_changed (extent=3D0x8867938, property=3D107= 9041104, old_start=3D0, old_end=3D0, descendants_too=3D1) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/extents.c:1817 #9 0x081191f2 in signal_extent_property_changed (extent=3D0x0, property=3D= 0, descendants_too=3D0) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/extents.= c:1824 #10 0x081244c9 in Fset_extent_property (extent=3D143030584, property=3D1079= 041104, value=3D140519812) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/exten= ts.c:5721 #11 0x0812456c in Fset_extent_properties (extent=3D143030584, plist=3D14358= 9392) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/extents.c:5744 #12 0x080ecbde in Ffuncall (nargs=3D3, args=3D0x2) at /home/steve/test-it/X= Emacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3842 #13 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x876bdb8 "=C4\n=C5\= v#\211\031=AB\b=C6\t\v\b#=AA\r=C7=C8\n\211T\"\v\b=C9BB\")\207", stack_depth= =3D2, constants_data=3D0x865a5f0) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/sr= c/bytecode.c:609 #14 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D141999528, nargs=3D3, ar= gs=3D0xbfffd874) at opaque.h:36 #15 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D4, args=3D0xbfffd870) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #16 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x88dddc8 "=C6\224= =C6\225S\034\e\ff=C7a=AB\025\v\035=C8\r=C9\t#\210)\f\035=C8\r=C9\b#\210)=AA= \017=CA\v=CB=C9#\211\032=AB\005=CC\n!\210)*=CB\207", stack_depth=3D3, const= ants_data=3D0x8763c68) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.= c:609 #17 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D143515064, nargs=3D1, ar= gs=3D0xbfffd9f4) at opaque.h:36 #18 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffd9f0) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #19 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x88b39d8 "\016=3D= =AD\a\f\rZ\016>Y\0367\0163=A2=C6a=AC\a=C7\0163!\0263\016?\036@\0163A\036+= =C8 \036;=C9\211\0361\0368=CA\0364\016+G\0369=CB\211\036:\036.=CB\036)\016+= \203q\004\016+@\211\026:@\026.\rb\210`\fW\203Q\004\016.;=AB\t=CC\016.\f=C6#= =AA\005\016.\f!\203=3D\004`\rZ=CD_\f\rZ\0169_=A5\0164=CD_\0169=A5\\=C9\\\02= 61\0167=AB\021\0161\0168V=AB\n=CE=CF=D0\0161\016;$\210\0161\0268\016:A\211\= 026)=AB=AF\016)@@=A7\203=CD\001\016)@@\225\034\016)@\211\036,@\211\0360\224= \035\0160\225\034=D1\016,8\036*\016,A@"..., stack_depth=3D1, constants_data= =3D0x87ca7b0) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:609 #20 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D143342024, nargs=3D3, ar= gs=3D0xbfffdb94) at opaque.h:36 #21 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D4, args=3D0xbfffdb90) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #22 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x885f818 "=C6 =C7\2= 11=C8 =C9\211\031\030\036\020\036\021\036\022\036\023=CA\216\v=AB\005=CB\v!= \210=CC\r\f\"\210\016\024=AB\006=CD\r\f\"\210\016\025=AC\a=CE\r\f\n#\210=CF= \r\f\n#.\a\207", stack_depth=3D3, constants_data=3D0x8443a20) at /home/stev= e/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:609 #23 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D142997512, nargs=3D3, ar= gs=3D0xbfffdd14) at opaque.h:36 #24 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D4, args=3D0xbfffdd10) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #25 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x88d90b8 "\v\n\t\b#= \207", stack_depth=3D3, constants_data=3D0x884f5a8) at /home/steve/test-it/= XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:609 #26 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D143495336, nargs=3D2, ar= gs=3D0xbfffde94) at opaque.h:36 #27 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D3, args=3D0xbfffde90) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #28 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0xbfffdf04 "\212=C0e= d\"\210)=C0\207\006\017\b|`|\b0bQ@8=DF=FF=BF=E8\226O@@=DF=FF=BF=D0=E0=FF=BF= H=DF=FF=BF$w~\b\004=DF=FF=BF\t", stack_depth=3D2, constants_data=3D0x8552a4= 8) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:609 #29 0x080a6436 in Fbyte_code (instructions=3D7, constants=3D139799112, stac= k_depth=3D7) at lisp.h:2460 #30 0x080ec264 in Feval (form=3D143323088) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21= .5/src/src/eval.c:3599 #31 0x080e97cd in condition_case_1 (handlers=3D0, bfun=3D0x80ebb10 ,= barg=3D143323088, hfun=3D0x80e98e5 , harg=3D1= 079075376) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:1917 #32 0x080e9c40 in condition_case_3 (bodyform=3D0, var=3D1079075376, handler= s=3D143323220) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:1999 #33 0x080a2a8c in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=3D0xbfffe240, program_ptr= =3D0x88aff37 "\210\v=AC\b=C7\030=C2=C6!\210)=CD=C0!=CAL\210\f=AB\f\r=AB\t= =CE=CF=D0=D1=D2 $\210,=D3=D4!)\207=A1", opcode=3D143) at /home/steve/test-i= t/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:1134 #34 0x080a2002 in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x88aff18 "\214~\210= \n\r=AE\002t=C6=C7\034\031\035\211\e=AC\005=C2=C8!\210=C9ed=CA#\210=C7=CB= =CC\217\210\v=AC\b=C7\030=C2=C6!\210)=CD=C0!=CAL\210\f=AB\f\r=AB\t=CE=CF=D0= =D1=D2 $\210,=D3=D4!)\207=A1", stack_depth=3D3, constants_data=3D0x8443960)= at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:515 #35 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D143326984, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbfffe3c4) at opaque.h:36 #36 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D1, args=3D0xbfffe3c0) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #37 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x88afef8 "\t=AE\002= t\031\b )\207", stack_depth=3D0, constants_data=3D0x884f588) at /home/steve= /test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:609 #38 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D143326952, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbfffe534) at opaque.h:36 #39 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D1, args=3D0xbfffe530) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #40 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x88aff70 "\t=AB\b= =C6\t!=C7V=AA\003\b?\f:=AC\004\f=AA\v\016 \f=B7=AE\004=C8\f=B7A\e\035=C9 = =AB\003=CA\025\r=AB\023=CB=CC!\210=CD=CC=CE=CA=C8$\210=CD=CF=D0\"\210=AA\r= =D1=CC=CE=C8#\210=CA\211\026!\026\"=D2=C0!\rL\210\r=AB'=D3 \210=D4=D5!\210\= n=AC/\v=AB\a=D6 \vX=AB\006=D7 \210=AA!\016#=AB\035=D8=D9=DA=DB=DC $\210=AA\= 023\n=AB\r=CA\022=DDed\"\210=DE \210=AA\004=DE \210=DF *\207", stack_depth= =3D0, constants_data=3D0x87cfd58) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/sr= c/bytecode.c:609 #41 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D143327072, nargs=3D1, ar= gs=3D0xbfffe6b4) at opaque.h:36 #42 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffe6b0) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #43 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x88aff18 "\214~\210= \n\r=AE\002t=C6=C7\034\031\035\211\e=AC\005=C2=C8!\210=C9ed=CA#\210=C7=CB= =CC\217\210\v=AC\b=C7\030=C2=C6!\210)=CD=C0!=CAL\210\f=AB\f\r=AB\t=CE=CF=D0= =D1=D2 $\210,=D3=D4!)\207=A1", stack_depth=3D1, constants_data=3D0x8443960)= at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:609 #44 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D143326984, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbfffe834) at opaque.h:36 #45 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D1, args=3D0xbfffe830) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #46 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x88afef8 "\t=AE\002= t\031\b )\207", stack_depth=3D0, constants_data=3D0x884f588) at /home/steve= /test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:609 #47 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D143326952, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbfffe9d4) at opaque.h:36 #48 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D1, args=3D0xbfffe9d0) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #49 0x080edcb3 in apply1 (fn=3D143060620, arg=3D1078775076) at /home/steve/= test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:4461 #50 0x080a6f1f in Fcall_interactively (function=3D138892540, record_flag=3D= 1079073888, keys=3D1079075376) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/c= allint.c:460 #51 0x080eb3b3 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=3D138892540, record_flag=3D0, keys= =3D0) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3106 #52 0x080ecbf8 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D3, args=3D0x3) at /home/steve/test-it/X= Emacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3842 #53 0x080a21eb in execute_optimized_program (program=3D0x876ab28 "\r\035=C6= \r=C7a=AB\004=C8=AA$\r=C9k=AB\004=CA=AA\034\r=A8=AB\a=CB=CC\r\"=AA\022\r:= =AB\r\r@=A8=AB\b=CB=CC\r@\"=AA\002=CD!\024)\t=ABKt=ABH=CE\f!\f\032\e=CF\f= =D0\"\210\v=AD8\b=AC\023=D1 =D2 a=AB\a=D3 pa=AB\006=D4 \210=AA\004=D5 \210= =D6=D7!=AD\e=D8=D9=CB\vA=AB\004=DA=AA\002=DB\n=DC\v!#\"\210=D6\016\036!\210= =DD=D9!*\207=CF\f=D0\"\207", stack_depth=3D2, constants_data=3D0x405ba960) = at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/bytecode.c:609 #54 0x080f1ab4 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D141994776, nargs=3D1, ar= gs=3D0xbfffed8c) at opaque.h:36 #55 0x080ecdc6 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D2, args=3D0xbfffed88) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3881 #56 0x080a7eea in Fcall_interactively (function=3D1078962792, record_flag= =3D1079075376, keys=3D1079075376) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/sr= c/callint.c:995 #57 0x080eb3b3 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=3D1078962792, record_flag=3D0, keys= =3D0) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:3106 #58 0x081032c6 in execute_command_event (command_builder=3D0x85d96f0, event= =3D142663544) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/event-stream.c:4209 #59 0x08103ecc in Fdispatch_event (event=3D142663544) at /home/steve/test-i= t/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/event-stream.c:4561 #60 0x080b4b70 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src= /src/cmdloop.c:573 #61 0x080b4932 in command_loop_1 (dummy=3D1079075376) at /home/steve/test-i= t/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/cmdloop.c:489 #62 0x080e97cd in condition_case_1 (handlers=3D0, bfun=3D0x80b48f0 , barg=3D1079075376, hfun=3D0x80b4546 , harg=3D107907537= 6) at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:1917 #63 0x080b4652 in command_loop_3 () at /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/= src/cmdloop.c:252 #64 0x080b4674 in command_loop_2 (dummy=3D1079075376) at /home/steve/test-i= t/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/cmdloop.c:263 #65 0x080e9234 in internal_catch (tag=3D0, func=3D0x80b4669 , arg=3D1079075376, threw=3D0x0, thrown_tag=3D0x0) at /home/steve/test-it/= XEmacs-21.5/src/src/eval.c:1527 #66 0x080b4754 in initial_command_loop (load_me=3D0) at /home/steve/test-it= /XEmacs-21.5/src/src/cmdloop.c:301 #67 0x080e358d in sort_args (argc=3D2, argv=3D0xbffff3b4) at /home/steve/te= st-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/emacs.c:2373 #68 0x080e4071 in Fdump_emacs (filename=3D2, symfile=3D-1073744972) at /hom= e/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src/src/emacs.c:2865 #69 0x403afd06 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (eicq-gdb) cont Continuing. Program terminated with signal SIGABRT, Aborted. The program no longer exists. (eicq-gdb) quit Inferior GDB finished =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D System Info to help track down your bug: =2D-------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux eicq 2.6.0-test9 #4 Sat Nov 8 13:06:21 EST 2003 i686 unknown ../src/configure '--srcdir=3D../src' '--extra-verbose' '--site-prefixes=3D= /usr/local/pgsql:/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.1' '--dynamic=3Dyes' '--with-athen= a=3Dnext' '--with-menubars=3Dlucid' '--with-scrollbars=3Dathena' '--with-di= alogs=3Dathena' '--with-widgets=3Dathena' '--with-site-lisp=3Dno' '--with-s= ite-modules' '--with-mule' '--with-xfs' '--debug' '--error-checking=3Dall' = '--memory-usage-stats' '--with-clash-detection' '--external-widget' '--use-= kkcc' '--cflags=3D-O1 -ggdb3 -march=3Dathlon -D__NO_MATH_INLINES -D__NO_STR= ING_INLINES' XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac" (+CVS-20031108) configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/steve/test-it/XEmacs-21.5/src Installation prefix: /usr/local Additional prefixes: /usr/local/pgsql /usr/local/BerkeleyDB= .4.1 Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissi= ng-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wpacked -Wshadow = -Wmissing-declarations -O1 -ggdb3 -march=3Dathlon -D__NO_MATH_INLINES -D__N= O_STRING_INLINES Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/neXtaw - Athena library to link: neXtaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Athena scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new GC algorithms. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. 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ver: 1.12 upstream: regular) (debug ver: 1.17 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (cookie ver: 1.15 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (cc-mode ver: 1.41 upstream: 5.30.7) (calendar ver: 1.22 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (calc ver: 1.24 upstream: 2.02fX3) (c-support ver: 1.18 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (auctex ver: 1.35 upstream: 1.2.3-4) (apel ver: 1.27 upstream: 10.2) (skk ver: 1.23 upstream: regular) (locale ver: 1.21 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (leim ver: 1.22 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (latin-unity ver: 1.08 upstream: 1.08) Installed Modules: =2D---------------- Features: =2D------- (lazy-shot xemacsbug shadow color-theme blink-cursor cus-edit cus-load completer emoney ell working avltree stack-m elib-node ps-bdf ps-mule ps-print from ibuffer image-mode dired-tar compile time-stamp big-menubar bbdb-w3 browse-url bbdb-sc bbdb-gnus bbdb-snarf bbdb-com bbdb-pgp mailcrypt bbdb timezone gnus-demon nnir nnimap imap mpg123 patch-keywords supercite-sy supercite mail-extr regi boxquote rect nnspool nntp messkeyw earcon gnus-audio gnus-topic gnus-score score-mode gnus-picon gnus-ml gnus-msg gnus-diary gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 pgg pgg-parse pgg-def mm-view nndiary gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range gnus-win nnmail mail-source message mml mml-sec mml-smime smime dig mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap lpr mail-parse rfc2045 rfc2231 rfc2047 qp ietf-drums mail-abbrevs sendmail rfc822 mailheader canlock nnoo gnus gnus-ems gnus-xmas messagexmas nnheader nnheaderxm gnus-util netrc time-date parse-time mail-utils mm-util mail-prsvr wid-edit auto-insert-tkld ffap tramp-smb tramp regexp-opt executable format-spec timer trampver diff-mode ediff-merg ediff-diff ediff-tbar ediff-wind ediff-help ediff-util ediff-mult ediff-init ediff vc-hooks balloon-help fshell shell comint ring sb-html sb-texinfo sb-info info speedbar sb-image dframe assoc filladapt footnote paren blink-paren pending-del scroll-in-place redo savehist backup-dir edmacro iswitchb crypt crypt++ recent-files holidays lunar solar cal-dst cal-persia cal-julian efs-cu diary-lib time appt calendar htmlize outln-18 outl-mouse func-menu outline annotations font-latex font-lock latex-toolbar latex-units reftex overlay reftex-vars latex tex advice advice-preload tex-site cperl-mode mwheel x-compose font disp-table cus-face xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads vm-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads sasl-autoloads riece-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnats-autoloads general-docs-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads footnote-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads skk-autoloads locale-autoloads leim-autoloads latin-unity-autoloads w3-autoloads url-autoloads tramp-autoloads misc-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads latex-autoloads gnus-autoloads emoney-autoloads chess-autoloads bbdb-autoloads mule-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist rsz-minibuf auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 tibetan lao devanagari indian slovenian czech romanian ccl code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse behavior itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived newcomment env text-props frame obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote unicode athena-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars external-widget athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs xim mule gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type file-coding linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: =2D---------------- M-x r - x - b RET Recent messages (most recent first): =2D---------------------------------- Parsing BBDB... 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Loading misc-sy...done miscellaneous initialised =2D-=20 |------------------; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 02:58:08 -0500 Received: from om.kq.cz (om.kq.cz [195.39.88.10]) by bmx.cz.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/bmx) with ESMTP id hA97w65G014630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:58:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from linux.local (dial-2-17.pha.gts.cz [195.39.25.17]) by om.kq.cz (8.12.10/8.12.10/om) with ESMTP id hA97w12q002782 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:58:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 500) id 90A546103D; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:17:51 +0100 (CET) From: Vaclav Barta To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.5-b15] Selective display in XSLT mode crashes xemacs Message-Id: <20031108201751.90A546103D@linux.local> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:17:51 +0100 (CET) X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I've been editing some XSLT stylesheet and tried to set selective display (with C-u 20 C-x $). xemacs crashed with assertion failure: ================================================================ Fatal error: assertion failed, file buffer.h, line 617, (x) >= ((Charbpos) 1) && x <= ((buf)->text->bufz + 0) Fatal error (6). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. Your version of XEmacs was distributed with a PROBLEMS file that may describe your crash, and with luck a workaround. Please check it first, but do report the crash anyway. Please report this bug by invoking M-x report-emacs-bug, or by selecting `Send Bug Report' from the Help menu. If that won't work, send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include this entire output from this crash, especially including the Lisp backtrace, as well as the XEmacs configuration from M-x describe-installation (or equivalently, the file `Installation' in the top of the build tree). *Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are unlikely to be able to analyze the problem. Locate the core file produced as a result of this crash (often called `core' or `core.', and located in the directory in which you started XEmacs or your home directory), and type gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core then type `where' at the debugger prompt. No GDB on your system? You may have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. (Ask your system administrator if you need help.) If no core file was produced, enable them (often with `ulimit -c unlimited') in case of future recurrance of the crash. Lisp backtrace follows: # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) center-to-window-line(35 nil) # bind (window n) recenter(35) # bind (current-vpos arg) set-selective-display(20) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(set-selective-display) (dispatch-event "[internal]") # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) ================================================================ No core was produced, so I run `ulimit -c unlimited' and tried to reproduce the error, which wasn't difficult (it does depend on the prefix parameter to set-selective-display, but I don't know whether it's specific to the XSLT stylesheet; I can send the stylesheet if you want it). This time I got a core, from which gdb shows the following backtrace: ================================================================ #0 0x4059cdf1 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x080f8daf in fatal_error_signal (sig=6) at emacs.c:3513 #2 #3 0x4059cdf1 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #4 0x4059cbd8 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6 #5 0x4059e4d9 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 #6 0x080f88db in really_abort () at emacs.c:4363 #7 0x080f783a in assert_failed (file=0x8366412 "buffer.h", line=6, expr=0xbfffe064 " ") at emacs.c:3699 #8 0x08254d56 in create_text_block (w=0x8564108, dl=0x888b690, byte_start_pos=8658, prop=0xbfffe79c, type=0) at buffer.h:617 #9 0x082766a9 in generate_display_line (w=0x8564108, dl=0x888b690, bounds=1, start_pos=8649, prop=0xbfffe79c, type=2) at buffer.h:615 #10 0x0827345d in regenerate_window (w=0x8564108, start_pos=8649, point=0, type=2) at redisplay.c:5638 #11 0x082615e3 in update_line_start_cache (w=0x8564108, from=5824, to=7792, point=5824, no_regen=0) at redisplay.c:8625 #12 0x082603bd in point_in_line_start_cache (w=0x8564108, point=5824, min_past=12) at redisplay.c:7932 #13 0x08260c5e in start_with_point_on_display_line (w=0x8564108, point=5824, line=12) at redisplay.c:8388 #14 0x08340bb5 in Fcenter_to_window_line (n=12, window=5824) at lisp.h:2460 #15 0x080fe788 in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0x19) at eval.c:3843 #16 0x080a8052 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8885c68 "Â\t:?­\002\t\b\"\210\t?­\aÃÄ\b!Å\"\207", stack_depth=8, constants_data=0x407a346c) at bytecode.c:609 #17 0x08106023 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1082304008, nargs=1, args=0xbfffebe8) at opaque.h:36 #18 0x080fe6cc in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffebe4) at eval.c:3881 #19 0x080a8052 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8839610 "\nÃa«\005ÄÅ!\210\214e`}\210Æ b\210ÇÈ !)\031\b­\004É\b!\022Ê\t!\210)ËÌ ÆÌ !\"\210ÍÎÃ\"\210Ï\nÃ\"\210ÍÐÃ\"\207!", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x40789ad8) at bytecode.c:609 #20 0x08106023 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1082239240, nargs=1, args=0xbfffed54) at opaque.h:36 #21 0x080fe6cc in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffed50) at eval.c:3881 #22 0x080ad793 in Fcall_interactively (function=1080856608, record_flag=1081004592, keys=1081004592) at callint.c:995 #23 0x080fcca1 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=1080856608, record_flag=1081004592, keys=1081004592) at eval.c:3106 #24 0x0811d0b2 in execute_command_event (command_builder=0x860ac50, event=142826080) at event-stream.c:4209 #25 0x081173a2 in Fdispatch_event (event=142826080) at event-stream.c:4561 #26 0x080c06a8 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:573 #27 0x080fb47d in condition_case_1 (handlers=1081002504, bfun=0x80c0c60 , barg=1081004592, #28 0x080c0ea4 in command_loop_2 (dummy=1081004592) at cmdloop.c:252 #29 0x080fb32a in internal_catch (tag=0, func=0x80c0e50 , arg=1081004592, threw=0x0, thrown_tag=0x0) at eval.c:1527 #30 0x080c09bf in initial_command_loop (load_me=0) at cmdloop.c:301 #31 0x080f6a9d in xemacs_21_5_b15_i686_pc_linux (argc=2, argv=0xbffff464, envp=0xbffff470, restart=0) at emacs.c:2373 #32 0x080f75f2 in main () at emacs.c:2865 #33 0x4058b4a2 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.19-4GB #1 Wed Sep 25 18:58:10 UTC 2002 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.5-b15 "celery" (+CVS-20030905) configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wpacked -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -g -O3 Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using Motif to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/ethio-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b15/lisp/mule/ethio-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/china-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b15/lisp/mule/china-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/cyril-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b15/lisp/mule/cyril-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/korea-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b15/lisp/mule/korea-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/viet-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b15/lisp/mule/viet-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/japan-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b15/lisp/mule/japan-util) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((xslide:version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.14 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.61 :type single-file) (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular) (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (psgml :version 1.4 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1.79 :type single-file) (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) (os-utils :version 1.31 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) (mh-e :version 1.23 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.57 :type regular) (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (eterm :version 1.14 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (efs :version 1.29 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.18 :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) (dired :version 1.14 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.39 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (mule-base :version 1.43 :type regular) (leim :version 1.2 :type regular) (latin-unity :version 1.07 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 advice advice-preload font-lock cus-face xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads vc-autoloads text-modes-autoloads supercite-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads semantic-autoloads sasl-autoloads rmail-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnats-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads eterm-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads dired-autoloads debug-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads bbdb-autoloads apel-autoloads mule-base-autoloads leim-autoloads latin-unity-autoloads modules-autoloads mule-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist rsz-minibuf auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 tibetan lao devanagari indian slovenian czech romanian ccl code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse behavior itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived newcomment env text-props frame obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote unicode lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs xim mule gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type file-coding linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- button1 button1up M-x r e p o r t - x e m a TAB RE T Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Auto save file for draft message exists; consider M-x mail-recover Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 9 05:11:25 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9AB2v01145; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:11:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9AAcn01033 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:10:38 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9AAaK01011 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:10:36 -0500 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9AAYv01002; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:10:35 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AImWg-0007gp-00; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:10:34 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (GvJEcYZZ8e2ip+N-wKi5UM5WM7ZFewpEZ5McpB54YVr-MEGSZSxvEU@[217.229.13.8]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AImWf-1OAuGm0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:10:33 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: [Lloyd Owen] Does apel-xemacs >= 10.4 exist? X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:11:04 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Seen: false X-ID: GvJEcYZZ8e2ip+N-wKi5UM5WM7ZFewpEZ5McpB54YVr-MEGSZSxvEU X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Lloyd, please don't use individual developer addresses for usage help. Please address usage questions to the newsgroup comp.emacs.xemacs or xemacs-news@xemacs.org. I am forwarding this to xemacs-beta because there may be some issues relevant to the developer community here. Best regards, Adrian --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline X-From-Line: lloyd.owen@runbox.com Sun Nov 09 09:08:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135]) by mailin01.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1AIlYk-0ed72W0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:08:38 +0100 Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [193.71.199.94]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA998bv09236 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 04:08:37 -0500 Received: from [10.9.9.9] (helo=fetch-bak.runbox.com) by lufsen.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AIlYi-0006Kc-G7 for adrian@xemacs.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:08:36 +0100 Received: from mail by fetch-bak.runbox.com with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AIlYg-0001AB-4c for adrian@xemacs.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:08:34 +0100 From: "Lloyd Owen" Reply-To: lloyd.owen@runbox.com To: adrian@xemacs.org Subject: Does apel-xemacs >= 10.4 exist? Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:08:34 GMT X-Sender: 254772 X-Mailer: RMM Message-Id: X-Sender: unknown X-Seen: false X-Content-Length: 716 Lines: 18 Xref: D5DC120J xemacs:11541 MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello, I have been trying to install xemacs-21.4.12-6 version which is supposed to be for redhat 9. When I install it says that it needs "apel-xemacs >= 10.4" I presume this is an rpm package. When I do a search on the net, what I find is "apel-xemacs-10.4-3.noarch.rpm", which is apparently for xemacs and redhat9, but it still insists on "apel-xemacs >= 10.4" . It appears that "apel-xemacs >=10.4" does not exist. I have downloaded the 10.6 version, thinking that ">=" meant any packages higher than 10.4, but it still did not work. If you have heard of this elusive package, or you know where I can find it. I'd be grateful if you could point me in the right direction. Thanks Lloyd --=-=-= -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 9 08:28:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9DS2v30072; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:28:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9DRNR29919 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:27:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9DRGs29876 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:27:16 -0500 Received: from smtp1.pp.htv.fi (smtp1.pp.htv.fi [212.90.64.119]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9DRFv29872 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:27:16 -0500 Received: from posti.pp.htv.fi (posti.pp.htv.fi [212.90.64.50]) by smtp1.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4719E807CA; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:27:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from cs78134079.pp.htv.fi (cs78134079.pp.htv.fi [62.78.134.79]) by posti.pp.htv.fi (8.11.1 (Revision 1.5+JAGae91741+JAGae92668) /8.11.1) with ESMTP id hA9DRES05685; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:27:14 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: [Lloyd Owen] Does apel-xemacs >= 10.4 exist? From: Ville =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Skytt=E4?= To: lloyd.owen@runbox.com Cc: XEmacs Beta List In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Message-Id: <1068384433.4449.7.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:27:14 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > I have been trying to install xemacs-21.4.12-6 version which is > supposed to be for redhat 9. When I install it says that it needs > "apel-xemacs >= 10.4" I presume this is an rpm package. Correct. > When I do a search on the net, what I find is > "apel-xemacs-10.4-3.noarch.rpm", which is apparently for xemacs and > redhat9, but it still insists on "apel-xemacs >= 10.4" . It appears > that "apel-xemacs >=10.4" does not exist. I have downloaded the 10.6 > version, thinking that ">=" meant any packages higher than 10.4, but > it still did not work. apel-xemacs-10.4-3.noarch.rpm exists on the Red Hat 9 CD's, and for example http://www.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/9/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/apel-xemacs-10.4-3.noarch.rpm Works fine here (RH9). If it doesn't work for you, I'd suggest contacting Red Hat for support as this is not an XEmacs problem. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 9 09:25:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9EP1v15924; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:25:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9EOsR15869 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:24:54 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9EOqo15857 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:24:52 -0500 Received: from kcte.net (kcte.net [199.239.248.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9EOpv15848 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:24:51 -0500 Received: from grendal.frinabulax.org (ky-morehdky-cmts1a-24-51-177-83.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.51.177.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by kcte.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hA9EOXml055348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:24:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:24:37 -0500 (EST) From: robert delius royar Reply-To: robert delius royar To: Steve Youngs cc: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.5-b16] (setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)... bad news In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: Organization: An Apple OS X XEmacs missionary Priority: NEW Precedence: first-class MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SafeFileScanned: kcte.net X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 about 11:25 +1000 UTC Steve Youngs wrote: > ================================================================ > Dear Bug Team! > > Remember all those bug reports about XEmacs 21.5 crashing on perl > or C files (mostly the reports were from me)? I've dug into it a bit > further and have discovered that the culprit is > `lookup-syntax-properties'. If you set that to `nil' you get the > crash. Here's the recipe: > > xemacs -vanilla > > In the scratch buffer, eval `(setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)' > > Visit a large-ish C or perl file (I used 'src/emacs.c') > > Do `M-x font-lock-fontify-buffer RET' > > If XEmacs doesn't crash at this point, just scroll through the file > and it will. Does it crash without -vanilla? For me, I can reproduce this exactly with vanilla, but with my regular setup, it does not crash. At first I suspected the progress meter, because I have had long ago crashes with it running. So I turned it off in scratch before trying the rest of the commands and got the same crash (in the xemacs -vanilla) My autoload requires are (require 'saveplace) (require 'saveconf) (require 'recent-files) (require 'pending-del) (require 'filladapt) (require 'psgml-html) some variables I have set usually are (setq buffer-file-coding-system-for-read 'raw-text) Custom set '(font-lock-mode t nil (font-lock)) I don't see any others that might affect the outcome, unless it is screen geometry or tab setting. -- rdr From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 9 10:47:17 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9Fl1v08026; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:47:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9Fkii07942 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:46:44 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9FkVt07874 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:46:31 -0500 Received: from mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx4.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.29]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9FkLv07835; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:46:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E7B1085; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:20 +0100 (NFT) Received: from mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx4 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27718-02; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:19 +0100 (NFT) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.50]) by mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808C5103F; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:19 +0100 (NFT) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hA9FkJSh016338; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sperber@sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id hA9FkI4J016337; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:46:18 +0100 (CET) To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Call for testers on bytecode fix (GCPRO_STACK/freed lrecord crash) References: <87smm1mika.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewmi0d2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877k38feyu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d6cz8s9v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878ynl4xb3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewb0zqn.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <873cd4tviv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Michael Sperber In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:46:50 +0100") Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:46:18 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090019 (Oort Gnus v0.19) XEmacs/21.5 (cassava, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >> Bvarbind definitely calls Fset through specbind_magic(). I have my >> suspicions about Bset_buffer, and maybe some other B.*set.* opcodes. Yes, great catch! Hrvoje> Doesn't set-buffer change the values of all buffer-local Hrvoje> variables? I'm not sure if buffer-local vars can be Hrvoje> dontuse-ed, but if they can, Bset_buffer can GC. It can theoretically call GC, but not in that place. (Look at get_buffer.) I guess the equal methods might GC, or that's what the code assumes, anyway. So I guess we stick a GCPRO_STACK there, too. Do you want me to take this again from now on, Stephen? (Again, many, many thanks.) (Hrvoje is of course, in a roundabout way, alluding to the completely fucked interaction between buffer-local variables, dynamic binding, and assignment. But last I tried, FSFmacs was even worse than we.) Hrvoje> Given how hard GC is to trace, maybe we really should just update Hrvoje> nvars whenever the stack changes. I wonder what the impact on Hrvoje> performance would be. It's not quite so easy. Look at Bcall where it's necessary to do the update *before* the stack pointer changes. The general implementation strategy for the byte-code is kind of brain-dead, anyway. It sure isn't suitable for anything but tectonic performance, that's for sure. -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 9 13:25:21 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9IP1v13854; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:25:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9IORp13755 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:24:27 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9IOQ013745 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:24:26 -0500 Received: from blindglobe.net (sense-sea-MegaSub-2-231.oz.net [216.39.172.231]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9IOQv13741 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:24:26 -0500 Received: from rossini by blindglobe.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AIuFS-0005tY-UF for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:25:18 -0800 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [C] Re: Accept (please commit) Re: [PATCH] packages: Update ESS home page, more broken links References: <8565hujtf8.fsf@blindglobe.net> From: rossini@blindglobe.net (A.J. Rossini) X-Face: >W_Rys'8s0zCUk5iFHk{Sn,Yw"=Z,Qq#v.3FS&**X:wHhFT~%t)F|ze)wKX<1v36_W(0n4-*r[~s_,hK"3DHHga&F6=|a1t8}VBnhQL~]rWOg(L Reply-To: rossini@u.washington.edu Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:25:17 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:34:01 +0100") Message-ID: <85fzgx1jsi.fsf@blindglobe.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PORN_4 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: > COMMIT > >>>>>> "A" == A J Rossini writes: > > A> Thanks Adrian, that's a good fix, please commit (or let me know and I > A> will). We've been preparing a new version for the last year; I need > > Hi Tony, thanks for the quick review of my patch! > > Tony, will you fix the other broken links in the various .texi files > before that release? Most (including the one you point out) have been fixed upstream; I'll recheck again just before. thanks! best, -tony -- rossini@u.washington.edu http://www.analytics.washington.edu/ Biomedical and Health Informatics University of Washington Biostatistics, SCHARP/HVTN Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center UW (Tu/Th/F): 206-616-7630 FAX=206-543-3461 | Voicemail is unreliable FHCRC (M/W): 206-667-7025 FAX=206-667-4812 | use Email CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you received this message in error, please destroy it and notify the sender. Thank you. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 9 15:56:29 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9Ku4v13668; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:56:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9KtaS13605 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:55:36 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9KtZ213598 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:55:35 -0500 Received: from mail.modwest.com (marshall.modwest.com [216.129.251.30]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9KtYv13593 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:55:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.modwest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24DA40F566F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:55:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.modwest.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (marshall.modwest.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new) with ESMTP id 05869-06 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:55:31 -0000 (MST) Received: from Bach.base16.com (c-24-1-230-45.client.comcast.net [24.1.230.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.modwest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DBC40F500E for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:55:30 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109145504.034c43a0@mail.modwest.com> X-Sender: msearles@mail.modwest.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:55:29 -0600 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Michael Searles Subject: Sample init.el crashes Win2K XEMACS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new amavisd-new-20020630 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 13:55:31 -0600 >To: bug-cc-mode@gnu.org >From: Michael Searles >Subject: Sample init.el crashes Win2K XEMACS > >Hello, > >I've installed the latest XEMACS for Windows (21.4.13). I'm running >it on Windows 2000 Pro SP2. > >I installed a copy of the Help->Sample->Sample init.el file in my >~/.xemacs directory. > >I started up XEMACS and then: > >1) Click on Dired. >2) Select a directory. >3) Open a file with .cpp extension (it may happen with other files too, >I didn't test that) >4) CRASH! This brings down the whole machine instantly, with blue >screen, the black screen, then reboots. > > >I've isolated the section in the init.el file that causes this, and >commented it out as shown below to prevent the crash. > >;; Here's another way to do that: it first tries to load the >;; pointer once and traps the error, just to see if it's >;; possible to load that pointer on this system; if it is, >;; then it sets gc-pointer-glyph, because we know that >;; will work. Otherwise, it doesn't change that variable >;; because we know it will just cause some error messages. > >;; ***** THIS CRASHES (if (featurep 'xpm) >;; ***** THIS CRASHES (let ((file (expand-file-name "recycle.xpm" >data-directory))) >;; ***** THIS CRASHES (if (condition-case nil >;; ***** THIS CRASHES ;; check to make sure we can use the pointer. >;; ***** THIS CRASHES (make-image-instance file nil >;; ***** THIS CRASHES '(pointer)) >;; ***** THIS CRASHES (error nil)) ; returns nil if >an error occurred. >;; ***** THIS CRASHES (set-glyph-image gc-pointer-glyph file)))) > > >Thanks so much for the team's work that has been put in on XEMACS!! I've been >using XEMACS for over 5 years. The Windows port is getting better and >better!! >THANKS TO ALL!!! > >Best Regards, >Michael Searles From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 9 16:21:17 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9LL2v19188; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:21:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9LKHx19078 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:20:17 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA9LKGv19069 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:20:16 -0500 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9LKDv19060; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:20:13 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AIwye-00010Q-01; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:20:08 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (ZZwEUYZ1geDLNlOALqRSRVC1liwUAgOKFlgn+Ln69OaUA1aczEyKod@[217.229.13.8]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AIwyU-1B75Em0; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:19:58 +0100 To: Michael Searles Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Sample init.el crashes Win2K XEMACS X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:20:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109145504.034c43a0@mail.modwest.com> (Michael Searles's message of "Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:55:29 -0600") Message-ID: <65htw86g.fsf@smtpmail.t-online.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Seen: false X-ID: ZZwEUYZ1geDLNlOALqRSRVC1liwUAgOKFlgn+Ln69OaUA1aczEyKod X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Searles writes: Hi Michael, after saving any modified buffers you may have, you could M-x eval-buffer while in following file: --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ;;; show-bitmaps.el --- render bitmap and pixmap files ;;; $Id: show-bitmaps.el,v 1.7 2001/11/09 11:50:44 AichnerAd Exp $ ;;; Copyright (C) 1997 Adrian Aichner (require 'annotations) (require 'config) (setq x-bitmap-file-path (expand-file-name "etc" (config-value 'blddir))) (defun render-bitmap (file) "Render bitmap or pixmap file in the current buffer. Selecting the bitmap or pixmap glyph reveals its size in pixels as ." (let* ((graphic (make-glyph file)) (height (+ (glyph-ascent graphic) (glyph-descent graphic))) (width (glyph-width graphic)) (down-glyph (make-glyph (format "<%s>" file)))) (set-glyph-contrib-p graphic t) (set-glyph-baseline graphic 0) (insert (format " src=\"%s\" width=\"%d\" height=\"%d\"\n" file width height)) (make-annotation graphic (1- (point)) 'text nil nil down-glyph nil) )) (defun show-file-glyphs (&optional dir regexp) "Display all files matching REGEXP as glyphs. Files are searched for starting in DIR and displayed in a buffer named after REGEXP, surrounded by *s. REGEXP defaults to \"\\.x[bp]m$\"." (interactive (list (read-directory-name "Directory: " data-directory data-directory t) (read-string "REGEXP: " "\\.x[bp]m$"))) (unless regexp (setq regexp "\\.x[bp]m$")) (unless dir (setq dir data-directory)) (let* ((bn (concat "*" regexp "*")) (b (get-buffer-create bn)) (files (find-files dir regexp))) (with-current-buffer b (toggle-read-only -1) (erase-buffer) (mapc 'render-bitmap (find-files dir regexp)) (toggle-read-only t) (with-output-to-temp-buffer "*Annotations*" (print (annotation-at)) (print (annotation-list)))) (switch-to-buffer-other-window b))) (defun find-files (dir regexp) "Find all files which match REGEXP, starting at DIR. Return all files in a list." (interactive "fDirecrory: \nsREGEXP: ") (unless (file-exists-p dir) (error "find-files: \"%s\" does not exist!\n" dir)) (mapcan (function (lambda (subdir) (cond ((string-equal (file-name-nondirectory subdir) ".") (directory-files subdir t regexp nil t)) ((string-equal (file-name-nondirectory subdir) "..") nil) ((file-directory-p subdir) (message "finding files in %s ..." subdir) (find-files subdir regexp))))) (directory-files dir t nil nil 'dirs))) (defun profile-it (arg) (interactive "P") ;;; (message "Called with arg %s" arg) (with-output-to-temp-buffer "*Profiling Output*" (unless (null arg) (clear-profiling-info)) (profile-results (profile (show-file-glyphs data-directory "\\.png$\\|\\.x[bp]m$"))))) ;;; show-bitmaps.el ends here --=-=-= Then execute M-x show-file-glyphs accepting the defaults and let us know whether all glyphs are displayed or anything weird happens. Good Luck, Adrian >> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 13:55:31 -0600 >> To: bug-cc-mode@gnu.org >> From: Michael Searles >> Subject: Sample init.el crashes Win2K XEMACS >> >> Hello, >> >> I've installed the latest XEMACS for Windows (21.4.13). I'm running >> it on Windows 2000 Pro SP2. >> >> I installed a copy of the Help->Sample->Sample init.el file in my >> ~/.xemacs directory. >> >> I started up XEMACS and then: >> >> 1) Click on Dired. >> 2) Select a directory. >> 3) Open a file with .cpp extension (it may happen with other files too, >> I didn't test that) >> 4) CRASH! This brings down the whole machine instantly, with blue >> screen, the black screen, then reboots. >> >> >> I've isolated the section in the init.el file that causes this, and >> commented it out as shown below to prevent the crash. >> >> ;; Here's another way to do that: it first tries to load the >> ;; pointer once and traps the error, just to see if it's >> ;; possible to load that pointer on this system; if it is, >> ;; then it sets gc-pointer-glyph, because we know that >> ;; will work. Otherwise, it doesn't change that variable >> ;; because we know it will just cause some error messages. >> >> ;; ***** THIS CRASHES (if (featurep 'xpm) >> ;; ***** THIS CRASHES (let ((file (expand-file-name "recycle.xpm" >> data-directory))) >> ;; ***** THIS CRASHES (if (condition-case nil >> ;; ***** THIS CRASHES ;; check to make sure we can use the pointer. >> ;; ***** THIS CRASHES (make-image-instance file nil >> ;; ***** THIS CRASHES '(pointer)) >> ;; ***** THIS CRASHES (error nil)) ; returns nil if an >> error occurred. >> ;; ***** THIS CRASHES (set-glyph-image gc-pointer-glyph file)))) >> >> >> Thanks so much for the team's work that has been put in on XEMACS!! I've been >> using XEMACS for over 5 years. The Windows port is getting better and >> better!! >> THANKS TO ALL!!! >> >> Best Regards, >> Michael Searles -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 02:00:31 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA703v30868; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:00:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA6xfs30753 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:59:41 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA6xHg30674 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:59:17 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA6xFv30669 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:59:15 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJ60w-0004hq-00; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:59:06 +0900 To: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Charset nebie questions References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:59:05 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Nickolay Pakoulin's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:23:15 +0300") Message-ID: <871xsgg152.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hAA6xFv30669 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I'm having mail problems ... if this has been properly answered already, forgive me, but it looks like so far it's been dropped on the floor. >>>>> "Nickolay" == Nickolay Pakoulin writes: Nickolay> Not sure this is the proper place for the questions, but Nickolay> still ... I'm a total newbiew to programming for MULE Nickolay> though Lisping in XEmacs over 5 years. So, have several Nickolay> questions. This isn't really Lisp in the sense of the Lispref; this is well into internals. The practical interface will change completely as 21.5 gets polished up (effectively, you just need to learn to write Unicode.org-style files, see etc/unicode in the source distribution). Nickolay> I can understand 172 -- it is equal to (charset-id Nickolay> 'experimental-charset). 160 Ø× 32 with highest bit set. Nickolay> BUT! where does the magic number 158 comes from? See src/charset.[ch]. There are huge comments there about this. There is some information in the Internals info manual, but it's a little out of date. Basically, 158 is an additional prefix to identify this as a private charset. Nickolay> The second question relates to font selection. Under Nickolay> windows, when I try to display a char from the charset, Nickolay> i get a warning: Nickolay> (font/notice) Unable to instantiate font for charset Nickolay> experimental-charset, face default Nickolay> So, what is the method to associate a particular font Nickolay> (potentially with font family that differs from the Nickolay> default font family) with a charset? On X, you do it with the "registry" property in make-charset. On Windows, you probably have to rewrite the C code (maybe CCL will do). See objects-msw.c about mapping charsets to fonts. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 02:02:00 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA720v31842; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:02:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA71up31822 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:01:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA71sA31812 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:01:54 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA71rv31807 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:01:54 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJ63c-0004hw-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:01:52 +0900 To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: [Q Re: [V PACKAGES (latin-unity)] Fix build. (generate latin-unity-tables.el) References: <877k2hakqu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87brrtv796.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:01:52 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:53:45 +0100") Message-ID: <87wua8emfz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "viteno" == Norbert Koch writes: >> This would work too, but I wouldn't do it because if/when the >> tables are _always_ built this would need to be renamed to >> "latin-unity-tables.el". It might get forgotten. viteno> Have you decided what to do with the package now? I would viteno> like to release new packages and would prefer to see this viteno> change committed beforehand, so I can put out the new viteno> version of the package. Steve's method is fine, but I'm still working on other stuff in latin-unity. Just put in a note that there are known bugs in latin-unity that haven't been fixed, and the maintainer (that's me) apologizes for the delay and welcomes inquiries about problems. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 02:08:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA781v00346; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:08:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA77XS32744 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:07:33 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA77Sh32723 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:07:28 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA77Rv32718 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:07:27 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJ68p-0004ni-00; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:07:15 +0900 To: Mats Lidell Cc: Simon Josefsson , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Sync browse-url.el with FSF References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:07:15 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Mats Lidell's message of "Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:20:39 +0100") Message-ID: <87smkwem70.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Mats" == Mats Lidell writes: Mats> But when that is done it is also a matter of style. Should I Mats> write one ChangeLog entry and in that include the change log Mats> entries from the GNU Emacs ChangeLog like this? Please note Mats> that I have kept the dates, for reference. To the extent that you can simply use the GNU ChangeLog entries, include them as is, in XEmacs syntax if GNU's differs. In principle you should be able to identify the relevant lines for every ChangeLog, but if you drop one or have an extraneous log for a change you didn't actually synch very occasionally, just copying the whole block is OK. Note that ChangeLog are _not_ going to be in date order due to the review process. Dates correspond to when the patch was submitted, not when it was applied. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 02:19:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA7J1v02770; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:19:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA7Ioc02735 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:18:50 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA7IdG02698 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:18:39 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA7Idv02694 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:18:39 -0500 Received: from pd9518618.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.134.24] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AJ6Jq-00043j-Cr; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:18:38 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AJ6M4-000Du1-Cz; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:20:56 +0100 To: rossini@blindglobe.net (A.J. Rossini) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [C] Re: Accept (please commit) Re: [PATCH] packages: Update ESS home page, more broken links References: <8565hujtf8.fsf@blindglobe.net> <85fzgx1jsi.fsf@blindglobe.net> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , rossini@blindglobe.net (A.J. Rossini) writes: >> Tony, will you fix the other broken links in the various .texi files >> before that release? > > Most (including the one you point out) have been fixed upstream; I'll > recheck again just before. Is anyone going to sync the diffs? I want to get the packages off the shelf and into the open. If nothing's going to happen during the next two days, I pre-release the current version (including Adrian's patch) and use this. Thanks, norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 03:02:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA822v11115; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:02:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA81Vr11033 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:01:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA81T511020 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:01:29 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA81Sv11013; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:01:28 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AJ6zH-0000bS-00; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:01:27 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (rfv6D6ZToevSd9I+sS7RyqVP6oqa2hziMBO75udcvVhmdQjl4fzS41@[217.89.2.194]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AJ6zE-0pxgzw0; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:01:24 +0100 To: Michael Searles Cc: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: Sample init.el crashes Win2K XEMACS X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <5.2.1.1.0.20031109145504.034c43a0@mail.modwest.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109165532.02ee4238@mail.modwest.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:01:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031109165532.02ee4238@mail.modwest.com> (Michael Searles's message of "Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:58:37 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: rfv6D6ZToevSd9I+sS7RyqVP6oqa2hziMBO75udcvVhmdQjl4fzS41 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Searles writes: Michael> Hi Adrian, Michael> The glyphs display just fine. See attached. Hi Michael, what about src="c:\progra~1\xemacs\XEmacs-21.4.14\etc\recycle.xpm" width="51" height="51" specifically? Does it display uncorrupted? Best regards, Adrian Michael> -- Michael> Michael -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 06:43:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAABh2v01121; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:43:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAABgg101039 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:42:42 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAABgfe01026 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:42:41 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAABgev01016 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:42:40 -0500 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJARL-0001oi-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:42:39 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJARJ-0001oa-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:42:37 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJARJ-0004Nn-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:42:37 +0100 From: Uwe Brauer Subject: Re: transpose columns in region Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:38:46 +0000 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z03XR0L6xuhhYNlmiST0FCbA/TU= X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 7 Nov 2003, adrian@xemacs.org wrote: >>>>>> "Uwe" == Uwe Brauer writes: > > Uwe> Hello I would like to transpose columns in matrix like > Uwe> construct like this > > Uwe> 1 2 2 1 1 2 --> 2 1 1 2 2 1 > > Hi Uwe, you got me hooked. > > Try these and report back. > > Good Luck, > > Adrian > Hi Adrian, Thanks very much for this. I would never have came up with something like this It works like charm, two comments however: - May be the docstring should be modified, including something like this: (defun apa-transpose-rectangles (start1 end1 start2 end2) "Transpose two rectangles (or columns) of equal geometry (dimension) in a buffer. Mark the first rectangle (column), execute the function and follow the instructions...... - is there any possibility to mark columns on the fly? (I just noted the other comment to my question referring to calc. So may be this is the way to go) Thanks Uwe From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 09:56:21 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAEu1v16279; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:56:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAEtu316249 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:55:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAEtfl16205 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:55:41 -0500 Received: from spark.hss.co.in ([203.200.71.140]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAEtdv16197 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:55:40 -0500 Received: from ultra.hss.co.in (ultra.hss.hns.com [192.168.100.5]) by spark.hss.co.in (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAAEsxNG006733 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:24:59 +0530 (IST) Received: from sandesh.hss.hns.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra.hss.co.in (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id hAAEtiq05179 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:25:44 +0530 (IST) Sensitivity: Subject: Stack Overflow in Winnt To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: asuchdev@hss.hns.com Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:19:17 +0530 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Sandesh/HSS(Release 6.0|September 26, 2002) at 11/10/2003 20:17:06 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_30,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi I am facing a problem in a VC 6.0 application. I change the size of a structure by around 28 K and then if I run the system , the system throws up Stack Overflow error. I am not able to understand the reason behind this. Can I change the number of stack frames somehow? Also, I am running Winnt. regards Aashish Suchdev Hughes Software Systems India "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Hughes Software Systems Limited (HSS) and is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used for any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this message in error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited from using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this message. 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 11:01:26 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAG1Gv31821; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:01:16 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAG0bf31648 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:00:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAG0X331579 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:00:33 -0500 Received: from blindglobe.net (sense-sea-MegaSub-2-231.oz.net [216.39.172.231]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAG0Vv31551 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:00:31 -0500 Received: from rossini by blindglobe.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AJETm-0008Rf-Ji for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:01:26 -0800 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [C] Re: Accept (please commit) Re: [PATCH] packages: Update ESS home page, more broken links References: <8565hujtf8.fsf@blindglobe.net> <85fzgx1jsi.fsf@blindglobe.net> From: rossini@blindglobe.net (A.J. Rossini) X-Face: >W_Rys'8s0zCUk5iFHk{Sn,Yw"=Z,Qq#v.3FS&**X:wHhFT~%t)F|ze)wKX<1v36_W(0n4-*r[~s_,hK"3DHHga&F6=|a1t8}VBnhQL~]rWOg(L Reply-To: rossini@u.washington.edu Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:01:26 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:20:56 +0100") Message-ID: <85he1cyzzd.fsf@blindglobe.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PORN_4 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Norbert Koch writes: > rossini@blindglobe.net (A.J. Rossini) writes: > >>> Tony, will you fix the other broken links in the various .texi files >>> before that release? >> >> Most (including the one you point out) have been fixed upstream; I'll >> recheck again just before. > > Is anyone going to sync the diffs? I want to get the packages off the > shelf and into the open. If nothing's going to happen during the next > two days, I pre-release the current version (including Adrian's > patch) and use this. I'm going to sync (I'm both xemacs maintainer and upstream). But not until things work. Just pre-release at this point, even release (its minor); it'll take more than a week to finish off the new release, sigh. best, -tony -- rossini@u.washington.edu http://www.analytics.washington.edu/ Biomedical and Health Informatics University of Washington Biostatistics, SCHARP/HVTN Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center UW (Tu/Th/F): 206-616-7630 FAX=206-543-3461 | Voicemail is unreliable FHCRC (M/W): 206-667-7025 FAX=206-667-4812 | use Email CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you received this message in error, please destroy it and notify the sender. Thank you. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 11:05:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAG51v32613; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:05:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAG4a232522 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:04:36 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAG4ZA32513 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:04:35 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAG4Yv32509 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:04:34 -0500 Received: from pd9518618.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.134.24] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AJEWk-0005QD-E2; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:04:30 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AJEYv-000FLK-VV; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:06:45 +0100 To: rossini@blindglobe.net (A.J. Rossini) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [C] Re: Accept (please commit) Re: [PATCH] packages: Update ESS home page, more broken links References: <8565hujtf8.fsf@blindglobe.net> <85fzgx1jsi.fsf@blindglobe.net> <85he1cyzzd.fsf@blindglobe.net> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (A. J. Rossini's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:01:26 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , rossini@blindglobe.net (A.J. Rossini) writes: > I'm going to sync (I'm both xemacs maintainer and upstream). But not > until things work. Just pre-release at this point, even release (its > minor); it'll take more than a week to finish off the new release, > sigh. Cool thanks, norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 12:03:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAH32v15386; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:03:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAH21I15211 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:02:01 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAH1f515135 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:01:41 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAH1fv15130 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:01:41 -0500 Received: from pd9518618.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.134.24] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AJFQ3-000D9A-Fn for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:01:39 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AJFSI-000FVo-0x for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:03:58 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [ANNOUNCE] XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-10-18) From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== ess-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.1.21 Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: ================================================== Sun-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver ada-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.27 apel-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 10.2 bbdb-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.34 build-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02 c-support-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver calc-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02fX3 calendar-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver cc-mode-1.41-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.30.7 clearcase-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver cookie-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver crisp-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.34 debug-1.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver dired-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.11 docbookide-0.07-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1 ecb-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.96 ecrypto-0.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0 edebug-1.20-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver edict-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.9.9 ediff-1.49-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.75 edit-utils-2.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver edt-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver efs-1.32-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.22 egg-its-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver eieio-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.17 elib-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0 emerge-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver eshell-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.4.1 eterm-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver eudc-1.39-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.32 footnote-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.18x forms-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.37 fortran-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver frame-icon-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver fsf-compat-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver games-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.04 general-docs-1.01-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver gnats-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.101 gnus-1.73-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.10.2 haskell-mode-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.44 hm--html-menus-1.23-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.9 hyperbole-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.18 ibuffer-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver idlwave-1.31-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.1 igrep-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.95 ilisp-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.12.0 ispell-1.26-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.3 jde-1.46-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.3.2 latin-unity-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.08 latin-unity-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.09 leim-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver locale-1.21-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver lookup-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0 mail-lib-1.63-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver mailcrypt-2.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.5.8 mew-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.94.2 mh-e-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.4.2 mine-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.9 misc-games-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver mmm-mode-1.01-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.4.7 mule-base-1.44-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver mule-ucs-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.84 net-utils-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver ocaml-0.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.06 oo-browser-1.04-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.08 os-utils-1.34-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver pc-1.26-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver pcl-cvs-1.65-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: R-2_9_9 pcomplete-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.1.6 perl-modes-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver pgg-1.04-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1 prog-modes-1.91-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver ps-print-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 6.5.6 psgml-dtds-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver python-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver reftex-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.21 riece-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1.5 rmail-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver ruby-modes-1.02-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.6.8 sasl-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.14.4 scheme-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver semantic-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.4.2 sgml-1.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver sh-script-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0e sieve-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver slider-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.3x1 sml-mode-0.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.9.5 sounds-au-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver sounds-wav-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver speedbar-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.14beta4 strokes-1.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver supercite-1.20-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.55x3 texinfo-1.25-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver text-modes-1.70-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver textools-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver time-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.17 tm-1.37-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver tooltalk-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver tpu-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.2X vc-1.38-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver vc-cc-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver vhdl-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.31.20 view-process-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.4 viper-1.37-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.09 vm-7.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.17 w3-1.29-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.0pre47 x-symbol-1.07-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.5.1 xemacs-base-1.82-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver xemacs-devel-1.59-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 21.4 xemacs-devel-1.60-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver xslide-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.2.2 zenirc-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.112 Detailed Changes: ================ - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ess/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-10 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.06 released. Installing These: ================ Manually: - -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): - ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): - ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. norbert - XEmacs Package Release Manager. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/r8TFgu3ywdHdhM0RAlgXAJ9grzDIg2yG0dxDyxxAyHP+9srA1gCg5atS 98063p9EE6573TrPgu6WTus= =QAVA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 13:40:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAIe1v17742; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:40:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAId8Y17405 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:39:08 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAId7e17395 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:39:07 -0500 Received: from webmail.tiscali.de (relay1.tiscali.de [62.26.116.129]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAId7v17385 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:39:07 -0500 Received: from wintendo.pflaesterer.de (62.246.4.37) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.7.019) id 3F9D2937005E0279 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:39:06 +0100 Received: from localhost (HELO windoof) [127.0.0.1] by wintendo.pflaesterer.de (127.0.0.1) with ESMTP (Classic Hamster Version 2.0 Build 2.0.4.0) ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:34:35 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-10-18) From: sigurd@12move.de (Karl Pflästerer) In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:03:57 +0100") Message-ID: References: X-Face: #iIcL\6>Qj/G*F@AL9T*v/R$j@7Q`6#FU&Flg6u6aVsLdWf(H$U5>:;&*>oy>jOIWgA%8w* A!V7X`\fEGoQ[@D'@i^*p3FCC6&Rg~JT/H_*MOX;"o~flADb8^ Organization: Lemis World Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:34:34 +0100 User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hAAId7v17385 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 10 Nov 2003, Norbert Koch <- viteno@xemacs.org wrote: > Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: > ================================================== [...] > python-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver I have a question to the python-mode. What does `No-Upstream-Ver' mean exactly? The actual cvs version (from the Python cvs repository) is quite different to the version in the XEmacs packages. `pui-display-maintainer' lists that list as maintainer. Who compiles the packages? Norbert? Karl -- "But it has nothing to do with what a _value_ is. This has to do with whether you pass whatever-a-value-is or wherever-whatever-is-a-value-is whenever you pass an argument to a function. (Call it the Shakira theory.:)" [Erik Naggum in cllisp über call-by-value und call-by-reference] From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 14:05:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAJ55v27376; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:05:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAJ4hS27270 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:04:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAJ4Ve27207 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:04:31 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAJ4Uv27199 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:04:30 -0500 Received: from pd9518618.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.134.24] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AJHKv-000344-Or for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:04:29 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AJHNA-000FwS-Il for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:06:48 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-10-18) References: From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Karl =?iso-8859-1?q?Pfl=E4sterer's?= message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:34:34 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , sigurd@12move.de (Karl Pflästerer) writes: > I have a question to the python-mode. What does `No-Upstream-Ver' mean > exactly? This means that the corresponding field in the package's Makefile, AUTHOR_VERSION is not set. > The actual cvs version (from the Python cvs repository) is quite > different to the version in the XEmacs packages. > `pui-display-maintainer' lists that list as maintainer. Who > compiles the packages? Norbert? Yes, I compile the packages, but I haven't synched any so far. Do you volunteer? I thought that Barry would do that, but I haven't read of him on this list as of lately. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 15:04:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAK41v14596; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:04:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAK34s14304 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:03:04 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAK2pD14222 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:02:51 -0500 Received: from webmail.tiscali.de (relay1.tiscali.de [62.26.116.129]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAK2kv14198 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:02:46 -0500 Received: from wintendo.pflaesterer.de (62.246.14.133) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.7.019) id 3F9D2765005F326D for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:45 +0100 Received: from localhost (HELO windoof) [127.0.0.1] by wintendo.pflaesterer.de (127.0.0.1) with ESMTP (Classic Hamster Version 2.0 Build 2.0.4.0) ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:58:56 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-10-18) From: sigurd@12move.de (Karl Pflästerer) In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:06:48 +0100") Message-ID: References: X-Face: #iIcL\6>Qj/G*F@AL9T*v/R$j@7Q`6#FU&Flg6u6aVsLdWf(H$U5>:;&*>oy>jOIWgA%8w* A!V7X`\fEGoQ[@D'@i^*p3FCC6&Rg~JT/H_*MOX;"o~flADb8^ Organization: Lemis World Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:58:57 +0100 User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hAAK2kv14198 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 10 Nov 2003, Norbert Koch <- viteno@xemacs.org wrote: > sigurd@12move.de (Karl Pflästerer) writes: >> I have a question to the python-mode. What does `No-Upstream-Ver' mean >> exactly? > This means that the corresponding field in the package's Makefile, > AUTHOR_VERSION is not set. Thanks for the information. [...] > Yes, I compile the packages, but I haven't synched any so far. Do you > volunteer? I thought that Barry would do that, but I haven't read of > him on this list as of lately. I can't say yes or no at the moment. Maybe in some weeks I'll be able to tell definitively. Karl -- Der wahre Weltuntergang ist die Vernichtung des Geistes, der andere hängt von dem gleichgiltigen Versuch ab, ob nach der Vernichtung des Geistes noch eine Welt bestehen kann. Karl Kraus 'Untergang der Welt durch schwarze Magie' From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 10 19:00:50 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAB003v03433; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:00:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAANxTU03227 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:59:29 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAANxED03154 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:59:14 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAANxEv03148 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:59:14 -0500 Received: (qmail 2480 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 00:59:12 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (213.191.128.12) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 00:59:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 21560 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 00:59:10 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 00:59:10 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Failure to connect to remote hosts if started up while disconnected From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:00:25 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I've been ignoring this for a while now, but it's really become annoying. The system is Red Hat 9, my internet connection is via a 56k modem line. XEmacs is 21.4.13, compiled from source. If I start XEmacs while not connected to the network and then connect, XEmacs cannot connect to any host -- it fails with "temporary failure in name resolution". On the other hand, if I start it while connected, everything works fine, even if I then disconnect and connect again. The error message sounds like it's a DNS problem, but I don't know what's causing it. Mozilla doesn't seem to have this problem. Is anyone else seeing this? From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 11 03:06:50 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAB864v26747; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:06:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAB855d26526 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:05:05 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAB84oP26460 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:04:50 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAB84mv26454; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:04:48 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AJTW2-0005r0-00; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:04:46 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (JT7A1sZDweF-ib9pHi-RzG5+JSWFBcg2OUe6DZ9Hjee6yu36FfdRQE@[80.128.55.65]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AJTVv-1ohZmi0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:04:39 +0100 To: Michael Searles Cc: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: Sample init.el crashes Win2K XEMACS X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <5.2.1.1.0.20031109145504.034c43a0@mail.modwest.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109145504.034c43a0@mail.modwest.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031109165532.02ee4238@mail.modwest.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031110233129.032a4e48@mail.modwest.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:05:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031110233129.032a4e48@mail.modwest.com> (Michael Searles's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:43:57 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: JT7A1sZDweF-ib9pHi-RzG5+JSWFBcg2OUe6DZ9Hjee6yu36FfdRQE X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Searles writes: Please don't drop xemacs-beta, Michael! I am not prepared to give exclusinve help to every single XEmacs user. Adrian Michael> Hi Adrian, Michael> At 02:01 AM 11/10/2003, you wrote: >> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Searles writes: >> Michael> Hi Adrian, Michael> The glyphs display just fine. See attached. >> >> Hi Michael, what about >> src="c:\progra~1\xemacs\XEmacs-21.4.14\etc\recycle.xpm" width="51" >> height="51" >> specifically? >> >> Does it display uncorrupted? Michael> It displays just fine using your code. See attached screenshot. Michael> I also tried using "the other way to do that" section in the init.el file and Michael> found that the following code works fine too -- I get a trash can Michael> glyph displayed Michael> just after I load a source file from dired (and whenever gc runs): Michael> (if (featurep 'xpm) Michael> (set-glyph-image gc-pointer-glyph Michael> (expand-file-name "trash.xpm" data-directory))) Michael> but if I change it to this (just changed trash.xpm to recycle.xpm): Michael> (if (featurep 'xpm) Michael> (set-glyph-image gc-pointer-glyph Michael> (expand-file-name "recycle.xpm" data-directory))) Michael> it crashes. Ideas, anybody? Michael> Best Regards, Michael> Michael -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 11 07:42:21 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABCg9v31783; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:42:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABCfZC31694 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:41:35 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABCf6W31623 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:41:06 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABCf5v31619 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:41:05 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJXpP-0000uN-00 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:41:03 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-10-18) References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:41:03 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:06:48 +0100") Message-ID: <87vfpr9ixs.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "viteno" == Norbert Koch writes: viteno> I thought that Barry would do that, but I haven't read of viteno> him on this list as of lately. If he's not listed as maintainer, he probably is not paying personal attention. Basically he signed off from all maintainerships he didn't explicitly sign up for, because Python, Zope, and Mailman are keeping him really busy. I would say direct mail to Barry is the way to go. If he doesn't take on the responsibility himself, he'll surely be helpful in finding a maintainer. Steve -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 11 08:37:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABDb1v10870; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:37:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABDaCl10725 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:36:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABDaAD10713 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:36:10 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABDa6v10692; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:36:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABDa4pg024854; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:36:04 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hABDa4u3024852; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:36:04 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Failure to connect to remote hosts if started up while disconnected References: <87r80f9imv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:36:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r80f9imv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:47:36 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >>>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: > > Hrvoje> If I start XEmacs while not connected to the network and > Hrvoje> then connect, XEmacs cannot connect to any host -- it > Hrvoje> fails with "temporary failure in name resolution". On the > Hrvoje> other hand, if I start it while connected, everything > Hrvoje> works fine, even if I then disconnect and connect again. > > This sounds similar to some bogosity reported on the Coda mailing > list. Something's either busted in RH's nscd I'll try turning it off and see if it makes a difference. > Hrvoje> The error message sounds like it's a DNS problem, but I > Hrvoje> don't know what's causing it. Mozilla doesn't seem to > Hrvoje> have this problem. > > Do you know how much effort netscape.com put into robust and fast DNS > performance over the years? :-/ They were solving a different problem, namely that the browser doesn't "lock up" during gethostbyname. I don't have a problem with (or have at least resigned to) XEmacs locking up while Gnus resolves hosts, I'd just like it to work. :-) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 11 09:43:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABEh1v24991; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:43:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABEghX24944 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:42:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABEgUb24911 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:42:30 -0500 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru (pluton.ispras.ru [195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hABEgTv24905 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:42:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 79230 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 14:20:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truba.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.41) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 14:20:00 -0000 Received: from truba.ispras.ru (root@localhost) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hABEd7mt016954 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:39:07 +0300 Received: from nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (nord.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.175]) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABEd78Z016902 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:39:07 +0300 Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hABElZ704790 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:47:35 +0300 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Need Chinese/Japanese fonts to display Russian texts! From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:42:34 +0300 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (beets, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Yes, really! In XEmacs MULE 21.5 (and 21.4 too). Cyrillic letters are being displayed correctly in XEmacs under MULE, that's true. BUT! many files, written in Russian, espesially in news groups contain non-cyrillic graphic characters. Examples are: "em dash" and "en dash", single and double quotes [1] in cp1251, box drawing in koi8-r. XEmacs maps codepoints that correspond to the mentioned chars into chinese and japanese charsets. I don't have ISO-2022 on my hands, but I am pretty sure that the standard positions those chars in Far East charsets. This leads to a funny result -- when opening a text file in RUSSIAN, XEmacs warns that it can not instantiate fonts for JAPANESE (CHINESE, KOREAN)! Notice: Unable to instantiate font for charset korean-ksc5601, face default Notice: Unable to instantiate font for charset chinese-cns11643-1, face default Notice: Unable to instantiate font for charset japanese-jisx0208, face default That is not a problem, but an annoying inconvenience. I see severals ways to fix it. 1. Add entries to display table that map graphic characters to reasonable substitutions (e.g. "en dash" to "-", "em dash" to "--"). 2. Introduce a new non-standard charset that contains such characters and specify a particular display policy for it. 3. Wait until full Unicodizing internals and hope the problem will disappear. Current implementation of Unicode support maps box drawing and friends to Far East charsets. Any comments/opinions? Nick. Footnotes: [1] MS Word loves to insert them into saved plain text From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 11 17:16:35 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABMGAv15654; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:16:10 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABMFMd15220 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABMFIO15127 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:18 -0500 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABMFFv15059; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:15 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AJgn4-0001st-03; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:15:14 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (GE6Ko-ZcZeNJXAUF5gepFBJhebC+pyorJNDD3QWcHLHKnAne6Cb1w0@[217.89.8.92]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AJgmz-27BhdA0; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:15:09 +0100 To: Uwe Brauer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: transpose columns in region X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:15:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Uwe Brauer's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:38:46 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: GE6Ko-ZcZeNJXAUF5gepFBJhebC+pyorJNDD3QWcHLHKnAne6Cb1w0 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Uwe" == Uwe Brauer writes: Uwe> On 7 Nov 2003, adrian@xemacs.org wrote: >>>>>>> "Uwe" == Uwe Brauer writes: >> Uwe> Hello I would like to transpose columns in matrix like Uwe> construct like this >> Uwe> 1 2 2 1 1 2 --> 2 1 1 2 2 1 >> >> Hi Uwe, you got me hooked. >> >> Try these and report back. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Adrian >> Uwe> Hi Adrian, Uwe> Thanks very much for this. Uwe> I would never have came up with something like this Uwe> It works like charm, two comments however: Uwe> - May be the docstring should be modified, including Uwe> something like this: Uwe> (defun apa-transpose-rectangles (start1 end1 start2 end2) Uwe> "Transpose two rectangles (or columns) of equal geometry Uwe> (dimension) in a buffer. Mark the first rectangle (column), Uwe> execute the function and follow the instructions...... OK, thanks. Uwe> - is there any possibility to mark columns on the fly? (I just Uwe> noted the other comment to my question referring to calc. So Uwe> may be this is the way to go) Pleaase explain what you mean by "on the fly". Uwe> Thanks Uwe> Uwe -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 11 17:30:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABMU6v19128; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:30:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABMTOR18852 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:29:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABMTNp18840 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:29:23 -0500 Received: from bpd2mo2no.prod.shawcable.com (shawmail.shawcable.com [64.59.128.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABMSqv18735 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:28:52 -0500 Received: from bpd2mi1no.prod.shawcable.com (bpd2mi1no-qfe3.prod.shawcable.com [10.0.184.120]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HO7006RRKZIVS@l-daemon> for 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%@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:49:53 +1000 In-Reply-To: (robert delius royar's message of "Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:24:37 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "rdr" == robert delius royar writes: rdr> On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 about 11:25 +1000 UTC Steve Youngs wrote: >>xemacs -vanilla >> >>In the scratch buffer, eval `(setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)' >> >>Visit a large-ish C or perl file (I used 'src/emacs.c') >> >>Do `M-x font-lock-fontify-buffer RET' >> >>If XEmacs doesn't crash at this point, just scroll through the file >>and it will. rdr> Does it crash without -vanilla? Yep, providing I `(setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)' in one of my loadup files. Which is exactly what I was doing up until I discovered this. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj+xZ5MACgkQHSfbS6lLMAPBnACeLljyMKMlDLrEx1o3YKqgMRyt k8EAn1n0pdY03xkZwm0jOe97m4FJqVXE =yqEP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 11 18:30:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABNU2v05070; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:30:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABNTGe04824 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:29:16 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABNTER04810 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:29:14 -0500 Received: from grendal.frinabulax.org (ky-morehdky-cmts1a-24-51-177-83.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.51.177.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABNTDv04805 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:29:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.frinabulax.org [127.0.0.1]) by grendal.frinabulax.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hABNTPpo001223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:29:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:29:25 -0500 (EST) From: robert delius royar Reply-To: robert delius royar To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.5-b16] (setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)... bad news In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: Organization: An Apple OS X XEmacs missionary Priority: NEW Precedence: first-class MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 about 08:49 +1000 UTC Steve Youngs wrote: > |--==> "rdr" == robert delius royar writes: > > rdr> On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 about 11:25 +1000 UTC Steve Youngs wrote: > >>xemacs -vanilla > >> > >>In the scratch buffer, eval `(setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)' > >> > >>Visit a large-ish C or perl file (I used 'src/emacs.c') > >> > >>Do `M-x font-lock-fontify-buffer RET' > >> > >>If XEmacs doesn't crash at this point, just scroll through the file > >>and it will. > > rdr> Does it crash without -vanilla? > > Yep, providing I `(setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)' in one of my > loadup files. Which is exactly what I was doing up until I discovered > this. I did not try adding `(setq lookup-syntax-properties nil)' to a loadup file, but I did evaluate it in *scratch* in my non-vanilla 21.5.b16. Before I evaluated it I verified that lookup-syntax-properties was t. When I am in non-vanilla XEmacs and load emacs.c and scroll around (even though lookup-syntax-properties is nil), the program has not crashed. I think that is odd. I would be glad to provide my startup file including customizations. I am still using the bad ancient technique of storing all startup setting including customs in one file which I load using an alias which points to this file: #!/bin/sh /Users/royar/usr/local/bin/xemacs -user-init-file /Users/royar/xemacs-xwin.el -geometry +50+0& I run with debug and error checking off unless I find a problem, and then I recompile. I also use union type (and know all these settings are evil decisions on my part, but they have worked well for me). here is what my describe-installation tells: uname -a: Darwin grendal.frinabulax.org 7.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.0.0: Wed Sep 24 15:48:39 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-517.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc ./configure '--with-mule' '--with-widgets=athena' '--with-athena=3d' '--with-dialogs=athena' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--package-path=/Users/royar/usr/local/xemacs/xemacs-packages' '--cflags-warning=${CWARNINGS}' '--prefix=/Users/royar/usr/local' '--with-prefix' '--cflags=-no-cpp-precomp' '--pdump' '--with-ldap=no' '--use-union-type' '--with-xmu' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-sound=esd' '--with-xfs' XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac" (+CVS-20031025) configured for `powerpc-apple-darwin7.0.0'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /Users/royar/src/xemacs Installation prefix: /Users/royar/usr/local Operating system description file: `s/darwin.h' Machine description file: `m/powerpc.h' Compiler: gcc -w -no-cpp-precomp Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: no - The GNU allocators don't work with this system configuration. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw3d - Athena library to link: Xaw3d Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the union type for Lisp_Objects. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: This tends to trigger compiler bugs, especially when WARNING: combined with MULE and ERROR_CHECKING. Crashes have WARNING: been seen with various versions of GCC, and recently WARNING: with Visual C++ as well. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Use of the union type may cause crashes due to compiler bugs. Using the new portable dumper. Sat Oct 25 12:57:27 EDT 2003 PATH: /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/bin:/opt/usr/bin:/Users/royar/bin:/Users/royar/usr/bin Compiler: gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1495) Sun Nov 2 11:50:26 EST 2003 PATH: /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/bin:/opt/usr/bin:/Users/royar/bin:/Users/royar/usr/bin Compiler: gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1495) Sun Nov 2 12:04:14 EST 2003 PATH: /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/bin:/opt/usr/bin:/Users/royar/bin:/Users/royar/usr/bin Compiler: gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1495) Sun Nov 2 12:09:11 EST 2003 PATH: /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/bin:/opt/usr/bin:/Users/royar/bin:/Users/royar/usr/bin Compiler: gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1495) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 12 01:16:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAC6FFv09062; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:15:15 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAC6E4k08514 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:14:04 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAC6E2i08504 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:14:02 -0500 Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAC6E2v08500 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:14:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (adsl-64-161-172-167.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.161.172.167]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAC6E1gJ054868 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:14:01 -0500 Received: from bear.rls.cx (bear [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAC6DnNg009600 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:13:49 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:13:49 -0800 Message-ID: From: Robert Spier To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: mixed-background type fonts are screwy User-Agent: Wanderlust/XEmacs/Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.5 - "Awara-Onsen") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I've been playing with starting an xemacs on a tty and then using make-frame-on-display to create an X11 one, but have been running into some fun coloration issues. If I explicitly specify colors as attached to frame-types, things work well: '(modeline ((((type x)) (:background "lightblue" :foreground "black")) (((type tty)) (:background "brightblue" :foreground "white"))) t) If I rely upon frame-background-type, the right thing does not happen. The colors are those of the original mode. (i.e. if the first frame is 'tty-frame (and I generally use a black background in a terminal) the background-type is dark.. My 'x-frames are light colored, and have a light background type. (get-frame-background-mode (get-frame-for-buffer (current-buffer))) returns appropriately on each evaluation even if the same buffer is displayed in two frames. A simple example of a mode that relys on light/dark is hyper-appros. '((((class color) (background light)) (:foreground "darkred")) (((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground "gray90"))) But sadly, it doesn't render the colors properly. (I'm happy to poke at this more, if someone can suggest where to poke.) Thanks! -R From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 12 02:19:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAC7Hdv23183; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:17:39 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAC7Gnv23052 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:16:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAC7Gk623045 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:16:46 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAC7GOv22996; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:16:25 -0500 Received: from sfwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AJpEE-0005g7-01; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:15:50 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (ZZx1PBZUoeqbKEFw+tRVM3IWFTzpyIxKDWNzSPmMklItt0hLntA+kq@[80.128.59.198]) by afwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AJpED-1j7ND60; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:15:49 +0100 To: Robert Spier Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: mixed-background type fonts are screwy X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:16:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Robert Spier's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:13:49 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: ZZx1PBZUoeqbKEFw+tRVM3IWFTzpyIxKDWNzSPmMklItt0hLntA+kq X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Spier writes: Robert> I've been playing with starting an xemacs on a tty and Robert> then using make-frame-on-display to create an X11 one, but Robert> have been running into some fun coloration issues. Robert> If I explicitly specify colors as attached to frame-types, Robert> things work well: Robert, please use Help->Send Bug Report... or M-x report-emacs-bug as suggested in http://www.xemacs.org/Debug/index.html This will tell us enough about your XEmacs installation so that we should be able to help you. If XEmacs does not build or start up, please send any version and configuration information you have to xemacs-beta@xemacs.org with any mailer as plain text (MIME attachments are OK, please don't send HTML mail). On linux type ulimit -c unlimited in the shell before starting XEmacs from it, else you might not get a core file. Best regards, Adrian Robert> '(modeline ((((type x)) (:background "lightblue" :foreground "black")) Robert> (((type tty)) (:background "brightblue" :foreground "white"))) t) Robert> If I rely upon frame-background-type, the right thing does not Robert> happen. The colors are those of the original mode. (i.e. if the Robert> first frame is 'tty-frame (and I generally use a black background in a Robert> terminal) the background-type is dark.. My 'x-frames are light Robert> colored, and have a light background type. Robert> (get-frame-background-mode (get-frame-for-buffer (current-buffer))) Robert> returns appropriately on each evaluation even if the same buffer is Robert> displayed in two frames. Robert> A simple example of a mode that relys on light/dark is hyper-appros. Robert> '((((class color) (background light)) Robert> (:foreground "darkred")) Robert> (((class color) (background dark)) Robert> (:foreground "gray90"))) Robert> But sadly, it doesn't render the colors properly. Robert> (I'm happy to poke at this more, if someone can suggest where to poke.) Robert> Thanks! Robert> -R -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 12 05:10:56 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACAARv31382; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:10:27 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACA8To30906 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:08:29 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACA8EC30847 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:08:14 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACA8Ev30843 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:08:14 -0500 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJrv3-00055s-00 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:08:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJrv2-00055k-00 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:08:12 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJrv2-0003W8-00 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:08:12 +0100 From: Uwe Brauer Subject: Re: transpose columns in region Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:04:16 +0000 Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+ZQhkeusa1rXY9xr0bMNrL/lAnU= X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 11 Nov 2003, adrian@xemacs.org wrote: > > OK, thanks. > > Uwe> - is there any possibility to mark columns on the fly? (I > Uwe> just noted the other comment to my question referring to > Uwe> calc. So may be this is the way to go) > > Pleaase explain what you mean by "on the fly". > Sure: Let ^denote the cursor we have the following matrix 3 1 5 2 ^ 6 3 I let space between the rows in order to display the cursor. Now if the to be written function Set-mark-on-column Is executed all element of the second colum get marked, the way I would mark it, if the second colum where a rectangle. So let _ denote now begin and * the end of the mark we would get 3 1 - 5 2 ^ 6 3 * Thanks Uwe From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 12 08:54:44 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACDsNv04572; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:54:23 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACDqsU04084 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:52:54 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACDqri04073 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:52:53 -0500 Received: from gateway.hns.com (gateway.hns.com [208.236.67.14] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACDqrv04069 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:52:53 -0500 Received: from excore8.hns.com (excore8.hns.com [139.85.52.126]) by gateway.hns.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id hACDqnmR017407 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from rpppc1.md.hns.com (rpppc1.md.hns.com [139.85.94.36]) by excore8.hns.com (Switch-3.1.0/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id hACDqi62007640 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:52:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Neal D. Becker" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: gnuclient + reverse video Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:52:43 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311120852.43950.nbecker@hns.com> X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi. I run xemacs with reverse video (light bg, dark fg) on X. When I go home, I want to attach using gnuclient in console (non-X) mode. This typically works very poorly, since many terminal emulators give really bad visual results this way. Is there any way that gnuclient could allow a reverse-video switch, or some other mechanism to address this? From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 12 09:09:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACE91v10830; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:09:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACE8JW10552 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:08:19 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACE8Ho10539 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:08:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACE8Hv10531 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:08:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hACE88pg019223; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:08:08 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hACE88ld019221; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:08:08 +0100 To: "Neal D. Becker" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gnuclient + reverse video References: <200311120852.43950.nbecker@hns.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:08:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200311120852.43950.nbecker@hns.com> (Neal D. Becker's message of "Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:52:43 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Neal D. Becker" writes: > Hi. I run xemacs with reverse video (light bg, dark fg) on X. When > I go home, I want to attach using gnuclient in console (non-X) mode. > This typically works very poorly, since many terminal emulators give > really bad visual results this way. You can set the face's appearance to be different on TTY consoles. For example: (set-face-foreground 'default "white" nil 'tty) (set-face-foreground 'default "black" nil 'tty) And so on for all the faces you care about. (Most faces inherit from the default face.) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 12 09:26:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACEQ1v08423; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:26:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACEPNv08172 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:25:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACEPLo08152 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:25:21 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACEPKv08138 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:25:20 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJvvk-0004ta-00; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:25:12 +0900 To: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Need Chinese/Japanese fonts to display Russian texts! References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:25:11 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Nickolay Pakoulin's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:42:34 +0300") Message-ID: <87znf1irzs.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nickolay" == Nickolay Pakoulin writes: Nickolay> XEmacs maps codepoints that correspond to the mentioned Nickolay> chars into chinese and japanese charsets. I don't have Nickolay> ISO-2022 on my hands, but I am pretty sure that the Nickolay> standard positions those chars in Far East charsets. Ugly, ain't it? This has always been true. Nobody in a position to help with testing has ever pushed it before (I think the usual practice is to simply use an 8-bit XEmacs with a KOI8-R font, which gives pleasant results with no fuss). First, check to see if GNU Emacs has this right. We should be able to synch to their implementation for 21.4. If not, I think the right way to deal with it in 21.4 is your #2, assuming you have KOI8-R fonts. (Caveat, as I said before I don't know how to do this on Windows.) Create a private 96 charset for each non-ISO encoding that uses C1 to represent graphic characters. Eg, KOI8-R, create symbol-koi8-r (as you did in the recent post). The registry should be "koi8-r" (if there are variants, regexpify that to handle them all). Change the registry for the cyrillic-iso8859-5 charset to "koi8-r". Change the current KOI8-R CCL codecs to simply map graphic C1 characters to symbol-koi8-r code point + 32 - 128, and back. Use these codecs both for fileio and redisplay. That's the theory, I don't know if there's anybody left who has done this in practice. For 21.5, you'll have to ask Ben. Nickolay> 3. Wait until full Unicodizing internals and hope the Nickolay> problem will disappear. Nope. This will require work, and help from you (or some Cyrillic users, anyway) for testing and sanity checking on X (where we can't yet count on Unicode fonts) and maybe on Windows (I suspect we probably need a KOI8 detector). Nickolay> Current implementation of Unicode support maps box Nickolay> drawing and friends to Far East charsets. This can and should be fixed in 21.5 by changing charset precedence. I don't know if 21.5's mechanism is flexible enough to do it right yet; again, Ben's the guy to ask. In 21.4, Unicode is not supported. Yes, we do some autodetection, and we provide the Mule-UCS package. But it's orphaned by upstream, and nobody understands it. In principle you should be able to change Mule-UCS mappings to use KOI8-R or whatever. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 12 12:09:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACH92v26000; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:09:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACH8xl25976 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:08:59 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACH8kQ25884 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:08:46 -0500 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru (pluton.ispras.ru [195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hACH8jv25873 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:08:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 99610 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2003 16:46:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truba.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.41) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 12 Nov 2003 16:46:08 -0000 Received: from truba.ispras.ru (root@localhost) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hACH5DPg016451 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:05:13 +0300 Received: from nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (nord.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.175]) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hACH4A8Z016430; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:05:13 +0300 Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hACHCi703200; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:12:45 +0300 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Need Chinese/Japanese fonts to display Russian texts! References: <87znf1irzs.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:07:43 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87znf1irzs.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:25:11 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (beets, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , intro: "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>>> "Nickolay" == Nickolay Pakoulin writes: Nickolay> XEmacs maps codepoints that correspond to the mentioned chars into Nickolay> chinese and japanese charsets. I don't have ISO-2022 on my hands, Nickolay> but I am pretty sure that the standard positions those chars in Far Nickolay> East charsets. SJT> Ugly, ain't it? Yes, it is. SJT> (I think the usual practice is to simply use SJT> an 8-bit XEmacs with a KOI8-R font, which gives pleasant results with no SJT> fuss). Yes, but not under Windows, and not MULE (because decoding / encoding tables are broken in non-cyrillic part of the table, see below). SJT> First, check to see if GNU Emacs has this right. We should be able to SJT> synch to their implementation for 21.4. GNU Emacs 21.2 maps codepoints for box drawing to characters with the same code. That is, when GNU Emacs comes across 130 ("BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DOWN AND RIGHT") in koi8-r input file then it inserts \202 in the buffer. When GNU Emacs encodes buffer, it converts \202 back to 130. This is not the best solution, because character \202 belongs to control-1 and it is NOT "BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DOWN AND RIGHT". SJT> If not, I think the right way to deal with it in 21.4 is your #2, SJT> assuming you have KOI8-R fonts. (Caveat, as I said before I don't know SJT> how to do this on Windows.) SJT> Create a private 96 charset ... I have already finished the first draft. See http://www.ispras.ru/~npak/koi8-pgraph.el TODO is to make a ccl program for the charset. But makes no sense under Windows because Windows XEmacs does not use ccl programs (imho) for charsets. It is not tested under X. But still is helps to work with koi8-r files in Windows. SJT> That's the theory, I don't know if there's anybody left who has done SJT> this in practice. Tables for koi8-r are broken. There are two bugs, imho. Firstly, `cyrillic-koi8-r-decode-table' maps some codepoints to 32 (space) thus ultimately loosing information and damging the data. Just opening and saving a file (without editing) alters file. The effect is non-recoverable. Secondly, ccl program `ccl-encode-koi8' takes care about cyrillic characters only. Still, `cyrillic-koi8-r-decode-table' maps certain codepoints into Far East characters. When `ccl-encode-koi8' comes across bytes that represent such characters it just dumps them 'as it is'! That is, in place a single byte there appear three bytes. This effect is recoverable, but recovery is tricky. koi8-pgraph.el mentioned above does fix both bugs for koi8-r. I volunteer to make similar fix for alternativny coding in both 21.4 and 21.5 and windows-1251 in 21.4. In 21.5 (at least under Windows) decoding / encoding for windows-1251 is done internally and requires further investigations. Comments / suggestions ? Nick. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 12 14:13:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACJD2v20330; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:13:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACJCfp20177 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:12:41 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACJCak20141 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:12:36 -0500 Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACJCSv20093 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:12:28 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (adsl-64-161-172-167.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.161.172.167]) by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hACJCR7q143080 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:12:27 -0500 Received: from bear.rls.cx (bear [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hACJCENg013851 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:12:15 -0800 From: Robert Spier Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:12:14 -0800 Message-ID: To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.13] improper font lock coloration when frames on different device-types / background types User-Agent: Wanderlust/XEmacs/Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.5 - "Awara-Onsen") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I've been playing with starting an xemacs on a tty and then using make-frame-on-display to create an X11 one, but have been running into some fun coloration issues. If I explicitly specify colors as attached to frame-types, things work well: '(modeline ((((type x)) (:background "lightblue" :foreground "black")) (((type tty)) (:background "brightblue" :foreground "white"))) t) If I rely upon frame-background-type, the right thing does not happen. The colors are those of the original mode. (i.e. if the first frame is 'tty-frame (and I generally use a black background in a terminal) the background-type is dark.. My 'x-frames are light colored, and have a light background type. (get-frame-background-mode (get-frame-for-buffer (current-buffer))) returns appropriately on each evaluation even if the same buffer is displayed in two frames. A simple example of a mode that relys on light/dark is hyper-appros. '((((class color) (background light)) (:foreground "darkred")) (((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground "gray90"))) But sadly, it doesn't render the colors properly. HOW TO REPLICATE: xemacs -nw -q (custom-set-faces '(default ((((type x)) (:foreground "black" :background "white")) (((type tty)) (:foreground "white" :background "black"))) t) ) M-x make-frame-on-display :0.0 M-x hyper-appropos foo coloration in the Hyper-Appropos buffer is wrong, it's assuming a dark background instead of a light one. GUESS: It looks like the light/dark background REQ specifier (see defface) isn't matching properly. If I explicitly set frame-background-mode to light in a frame, and then execute a custom-set-faces... (custom-set-faces '(default ((((background light)) (:foreground "black" :background "white")) (((background dark)) (:foreground "white" :background "red" ))) t)) ... _all_ frames turn red, ignoring the background mode. Thanks! (I'm happy to poke at this more, if someone can suggest where to poke.) -R ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux bear 2.4.20-9 #1 Wed Apr 2 13:42:50 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux ./configure '--prefix=/pkg/xemacs-21.4.13' '--cflags=-O3 -march=pentium4 -mfpmath=sse -malign-double -mmmx -msse -msse2 -maccumulate-outgoing-args -minline-all-stringops -momit-leaf-frame-pointer' '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /pkg/src/xemacs-21.4.13 Installation prefix: /pkg/xemacs-21.4.13 Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O3 -march=pentium4 -mfpmath=sse -malign-double -mmmx -msse -msse2 -maccumulate-outgoing-args -minline-all-stringops -momit-leaf-frame-pointer Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using Motif to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. 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/pkg/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/wl/utf7 /pkg/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/timezone /pkg/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/timezone /pkg/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/alist /pkg/xemacs/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/alist /pkg/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /pkg/xemacs/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.81 :type regular) (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.17 :type regular) (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.14 :type regular) (tm :version 1.36 :type 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flim-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 12 17:51:36 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACMpBv20950; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:51:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACMoEE20707 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:50:15 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACMoDk20695 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:50:13 -0500 Received: from rent.teradyne.com (rent.teradyne.com [198.51.251.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACMoCv20690; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:50:12 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by rent.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08037; Wed, 12 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From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:50:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:05:11 +0100") Message-ID: <545islp9p7m.fsf@xemacs.org> Lines: 50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: >>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Searles writes: > > Please don't drop xemacs-beta, Michael! > > I am not prepared to give exclusinve help to every single XEmacs user. > > Adrian > > Michael> Hi Adrian, > Michael> At 02:01 AM 11/10/2003, you wrote: > >> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Searles writes: > >> > Michael> Hi Adrian, > Michael> The glyphs display just fine. See attached. > >> > >> Hi Michael, what about > >> src="c:\progra~1\xemacs\XEmacs-21.4.14\etc\recycle.xpm" width="51" > >> height="51" > >> specifically? > >> > >> Does it display uncorrupted? > > Michael> It displays just fine using your code. See attached screenshot. > > Michael> I also tried using "the other way to do that" section in the init.el file and > Michael> found that the following code works fine too -- I get a trash can > Michael> glyph displayed > Michael> just after I load a source file from dired (and whenever gc runs): > > Michael> (if (featurep 'xpm) > Michael> (set-glyph-image gc-pointer-glyph > Michael> (expand-file-name "trash.xpm" data-directory))) > > Michael> but if I change it to this (just changed trash.xpm to recycle.xpm): > > Michael> (if (featurep 'xpm) > Michael> (set-glyph-image gc-pointer-glyph > Michael> (expand-file-name "recycle.xpm" data-directory))) > > Michael> it crashes. > > Ideas, anybody? I don't see a crash on my XP machine here at work. Michael, can you recompile your xpm library and rebuild XEmacs? HTH, vin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 06:07:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADB62v14827; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:06:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADB5ZE14650 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:05:35 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADB5Jd14602 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:05:19 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADB5Iv14592 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:05:18 -0500 Received: from pd9518afb.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.138.251] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AKFHo-0003DC-Ti for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:05:17 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AKFK4-000GlQ-Pl for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:07:36 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [ANNOUNCE] XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-13-11) From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== text-modes-1.71-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: ================================================== Sun-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver ada-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.27 apel-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 10.2 bbdb-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.34 build-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02 c-support-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver calc-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02fX3 calendar-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver cc-mode-1.41-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.30.7 clearcase-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver cookie-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver crisp-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.34 debug-1.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver dired-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.11 docbookide-0.07-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1 ecb-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.96 ecrypto-0.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0 edebug-1.20-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver edict-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.9.9 ediff-1.49-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.75 edit-utils-2.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver edt-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver efs-1.32-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.22 egg-its-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver eieio-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.17 elib-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0 emerge-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver eshell-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.4.1 ess-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.1.21 eterm-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver eudc-1.39-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.32 footnote-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.18x forms-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.37 fortran-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver frame-icon-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver fsf-compat-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver games-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.04 general-docs-1.01-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver gnats-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.101 gnus-1.73-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.10.2 haskell-mode-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.44 hm--html-menus-1.23-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.9 hyperbole-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.18 ibuffer-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver idlwave-1.31-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.1 igrep-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.95 ilisp-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.12.0 ispell-1.26-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.3 jde-1.46-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.3.2 latin-unity-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.08 latin-unity-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.09 leim-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver locale-1.21-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver lookup-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0 mail-lib-1.63-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver mailcrypt-2.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.5.8 mew-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.94.2 mh-e-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.4.2 mine-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.9 misc-games-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver mmm-mode-1.01-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.4.7 mule-base-1.44-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver mule-ucs-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.84 net-utils-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver ocaml-0.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.06 oo-browser-1.04-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.08 os-utils-1.34-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver pc-1.26-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver pcl-cvs-1.65-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: R-2_9_9 pcomplete-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.1.6 perl-modes-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver pgg-1.04-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1 prog-modes-1.91-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver ps-print-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 6.5.6 psgml-dtds-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver python-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver reftex-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.21 riece-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1.5 rmail-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver ruby-modes-1.02-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.6.8 sasl-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.14.4 scheme-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver semantic-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.4.2 sgml-1.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver sh-script-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0e sieve-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver slider-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.3x1 sml-mode-0.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.9.5 sounds-au-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver sounds-wav-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver speedbar-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.14beta4 strokes-1.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver supercite-1.20-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.55x3 texinfo-1.25-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver textools-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver time-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.17 tm-1.37-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver tooltalk-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver tpu-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.2X vc-1.38-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver vc-cc-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver vhdl-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.31.20 view-process-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.4 viper-1.37-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.09 vm-7.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.17 w3-1.29-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.0pre47 x-symbol-1.07-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.5.1 xemacs-base-1.82-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver xemacs-devel-1.59-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 21.4 xemacs-devel-1.60-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver xslide-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.2.2 zenirc-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.112 Detailed Changes: ================ ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/text-modes/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.71 released. 2003-11-12 Adrian Aichner * folding.el: Typo fixes for docstrings and comments. Installing These: ================ Manually: -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. norbert - XEmacs Package Release Manager. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 10:51:34 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADFpHv17738; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:51:17 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADFoqH17643 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:50:52 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADFoow17636 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:50:50 -0500 Received: from mta.internal.itasoftware.com (ita4fw1.itasoftware.com [63.107.91.99]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADFoov17632 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:50:50 -0500 Received: from itasoftware.com (ita4fw1.itasoftware.com [63.107.91.99]) by mta.internal.itasoftware.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hADFoaIA028656; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:50:36 -0500 Received: (from greg@localhost) by itasoftware.com (8.11.6/8.8.7) id hADFoan10074; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:50:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: phl.internal.itasoftware.com: greg set sender to greg@itasoftware.com using -f From: gak@klanderman.net (Greg Klanderman) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org (XEmacs beta list) Subject: Re: display goobers in 21.5-b11, 21.4.12 Reply-To: gak@klanderman.net References: <15982.33768.293495.121806@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:50:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <15982.33768.293495.121806@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Greg Klanderman's message of "Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:48:40 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , FWIW, this appears to be due to building on RH7.3. If I build the RH7.3 source RPM for xemacs 21.4.6 on a vanilla RH7.3 box, I see the problem, however, the binary RPM distributed with RH7.3 does not exhibit the problem, nor does building on a RH7.2 box and running on RH7.3. thanks, greg >>>>> on March 11, 2003, Greg Klanderman wrote: > Hi, > If "xemacs -vanilla" (21.5-b11 or 21.4.12) is run with the following X > resources set: > XEmacs.default.attributeForeground: white > XEmacs.default.attributeBackground: midnightblue > You see all sorts of display cruft along the outer edges of the frame. > Random grey lines appear frequently when listing completions and > aborting out of completion listing commands. For example, > C-x C-f > results in a grey line drawn along the bottommost pixel or two of the > frame (under the minibuffer). If I then do: > C-g > I'm left with a short vertical grey bar along the left edge of the > frame where the modeline was for the split window when showing > completions. This is not completely deterministic, sometimes > everything is fine, other times the vertical bar extends along the > whole extent of what was the upper window. > If I load a file (C-x C-f) and then kill the buffer (C-x k ) then > the entire left edge of the frame has a two pixel wide vertical grey > line. C-l clears it. > I can send screenshots if anyone is interested. > The bug does not appear in 21.4.6 (as distributed with RH 7.3). > The problems show whether or not the buffers-tab is on or off, though > I suspect has something to do with that code or the code supporting > it. > thanks, > Greg From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 11:13:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADGD1v23446; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:13:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADGCgV23369 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:12:42 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADGCf523360 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:12:41 -0500 Received: from mta.internal.itasoftware.com (ita4fw1.itasoftware.com [63.107.91.99]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADGCbv23346 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:12:41 -0500 Received: from itasoftware.com (ita4fw1.itasoftware.com [63.107.91.99]) by mta.internal.itasoftware.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hADGCRIA032579; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:12:28 -0500 Received: (from greg@localhost) by itasoftware.com (8.11.6/8.8.7) id hADGCSG11932; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:12:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <16307.44396.325471.293183@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:12:28 -0500 From: gak@klanderman.net (Greg Klanderman) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org (XEmacs beta list) Subject: window.c abort() crash in 21.4.6-14 Reply-To: gak@klanderman.net X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hADGCbv23346 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DONT_DELETE autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I've been seeing xemacs abort in the following code in window.c: if (++lose_lose >= 500) { /* Call to abort() added by Darryl Okahata (16 Nov. 2001), at Ben's request, to catch any remaining bugs. If you find that XEmacs is aborting here, and you need to be up and running ASAP, it should be safe to comment out the following abort(), as long as you leave the "break;" alone. */ abort(); break; /* <--- KEEP THIS HERE! Do not delete! */ } now and then. I cannot reliably reproduce the problem, but here are the two scenarios that seem to trigger it: 1. With an xemacs running at work, I ssh in from home and use gnuclient to make a new frame onto my home machine. I read email using VM and GNUS and at some point it goes poof. This happens maybe one time out of five. 2. Running an xemacs locally, I hit keys I have bound in my window manager to iconify xemacs' only frame and it goes poof. This case happens much less frequently than #1. Below is the top of a lisp backtrace from over the weekend (case 1 above). I could also try to get a C backtrace/core dump if helpful. I'd be happy to insert some debugging print statements if there's any info that would help someone debug this. For now I have recompiled with the abort() commented out. thanks, greg get-buffer-window(# visible) # bind (name limit on-frame not-this-window-p buffer) get-frame-for-buffer-noselect(# nil nil) # bind (on-frame not-this-window-p buffer) get-frame-for-buffer(# nil nil) # bind (window old-frame target-frame explicit-frame) byte-code("..." [explicit-frame tem car target-frame buffer window nil last-no nminibuf-frame selected-frame get-buffer bufferp wrong-type-argument throw done buffer-dedicated-frame frame-live-p window-buffer selected-window display-buffer -1 buffer-name assoc switch-to-buffer string-match 0 get-buffer-window frame-sel ected-window set-window-buffer frame-property minibuffer only window-dedicated-p frame-root-window unsplittable get-largest-window visible t window-frame window -height window-width window-leftmost-p window-rightmost-p split-window get-lru-w indow window-parent window-previous-child window-next-child window-pixel-edges w indow-pixel-height enlarge-window 2 ((byte-code "!« !Á" ... 2)) select-window rec ord-buffer override-frame other not-this-window-p special-display-function upper old-frame dedi split-height-threshold window-min-height split-width-threshold p re-display-buffer-function display-buffer-function same-window-buffer-names pop- up-frames special-display-buffer-names pop-up-frame-function window-min-width sa me-window-regexps special-display-regexps pop-up-windows ssw54065] 7) # (catch done ...) # bind (override-frame not-this-window-p buffer) display-buffer(#) # bind (pop-up-windows pop-up-frames buffer) vm-display-buffer(#) # bind (wf w) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (vm-sbe-buffer do-not-raise configs commands display buffer) vm-display(# t (vm-summarize vm-summarize-other-f rame) (vm-visit-folder) t) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (raise display) vm-summarize(t nil) # bind (full-startup did-read-index-file folder-buffer first-time totals-blurb folder-name remote-spec preserve-auto-save-file) byte-code("..." [totals-blurb preserve-auto-save-file file full-startup folder buffer-file-coding-system bufferp nil pop vm-pop-find-spec-for-name error "No s uch POP folder: %s" vm-pop-make-filename-for-spec expand-file-name file-director y-p "%s is a directory" vm-get-file-buffer t no-conversion raw-text message "Rea ding %s..." find-file-noselect "Reading %s... done" buffer-name rename-buffer se t-buffer-multibyte get-coding-system no-conversion-unix no-conversion-dos no-con version-mac binary buffer-modified-p ((set-buffer-modified-p omodified)) encode- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 12:07:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADH71v04615; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:07:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADH6ZF04511 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:06:35 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADH6XO04500 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:06:33 -0500 Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADH6Xv04495 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:06:33 -0500 Received: from relcos1.cos.agilent.com (relcos1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.239]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2372D25868; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:06:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C195647; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:06:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_25184)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id JAA22147; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:06:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200311131706.JAA22147@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: gak@klanderman.net Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org (XEmacs beta list) Subject: Re: window.c abort() crash in 21.4.6-14 Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:12:28 EST." <16307.44396.325471.293183@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:06:00 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , gak@klanderman.net (Greg Klanderman) wrote: > I've been seeing xemacs abort in the following code in window.c: That code is there, in theory, to catch any "infinite loop" problems in window_loop(). Do you have a lot of XEmacs "windows" (i.e., frames split multiple times into multiple "XEmacs windows", not actual X11 windows)? I'm wondering if the "500" value is too low, when lots of XEmacs "windows" are present. Maybe something like "10000" might be a better number (especially if your XEmacs works fine, and does not hang, when you comment out the call to abort()). [ For that matter, is it possible to have non-visible XEmacs windows? I believe not, but I do not know this for a fact. If it is possible, that could cause this problem. Hmmm. Could killed windows be (temporarily?) sticking around in the window list? ] -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 14:12:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADJC1v05039; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:12:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADJBmD04994 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:11:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADJBkd04984 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:11:46 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADJBjv04972 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:11:45 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADJBapg026406; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:11:36 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hADJBYKB026404; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:11:34 +0100 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: gak@klanderman.net, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org (XEmacs beta list) Subject: Re: window.c abort() crash in 21.4.6-14 References: <200311131706.JAA22147@mina.soco.agilent.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:11:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200311131706.JAA22147@mina.soco.agilent.com> (Darryl Okahata's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:06:00 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Darryl Okahata writes: > gak@klanderman.net (Greg Klanderman) wrote: > >> I've been seeing xemacs abort in the following code in window.c: > > That code is there, in theory, to catch any "infinite loop" problems > in window_loop(). > > Do you have a lot of XEmacs "windows" (i.e., frames split multiple > times into multiple "XEmacs windows", not actual X11 windows)? I'm > wondering if the "500" value is too low, when lots of XEmacs > "windows" are present. I don't see how the value 500 could be too low for anything resembling normal usage. It's far more realistic to assume that we're still seeing the infinite loop bug this used to guard against. :-( > [ For that matter, is it possible to have non-visible XEmacs > windows? I believe windows deleted and re-created from the window configuration code, but the non-visible windows should not be reachable through the buffer attributes. If they are, it's just another form of the bug. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 14:21:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADJL1v07545; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:21:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADJKNc07394 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:20:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADJK8h07350 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:20:08 -0500 Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu (stephens.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADJK8v07343 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:20:08 -0500 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu (diannao.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.126.112]) by stephens.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/ITTC-ANTISPAM-ANTIVIRUS-3.0) with ESMTP id hADJK4GJ026144 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:20:04 -0600 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/KU-4.0-client) id hADJK4VT009014; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:20:04 -0600 Received: (from james@localhost) by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hADJK437009012; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:20:04 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: diannao.ittc.ku.edu: james set sender to james@eecs.ku.edu using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Fun with buggy video card drivers From: Jerry James X-Face: +5(Pfr,;N>q#6NT,Qi5^TQh-MaUnz#kGN~OW[CQj~RS+sIor( '_8K^f9u^Y#.N`>9oKN$\JpI Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:20:04 -0600 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-VirusScan: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a potential PROBLEMS file entry, although we probably don't have to put it there unless a second person encounters the same problem. I have a colleague who was having some problems with cursor weirdnesses in XEmacs. As he moved the mouse across toolbar/menubar/scrollbar boundaries, it would turn into a red X for a few pixels. Usually it would change to something reasonable after moving across, but sometimes it would get stuck in red X mode, especially if he moved the mouse very quickly. Also, if he had the mouse over a buffer so that the pointer looked like this: \/ | | /\ (I'm sure that has a name, but I don't know what it is), it would stay that way if he rapidly moved the mouse horizontally off of the XEmacs frame. This was very annoying. My computer and his have almost identical hardware, and I wasn't having any such problem, so I agreed to help him figure it out. We didn't have any luck, although I verified with GDB that XEmacs itself was not responsible for the red X change. We both run RedHat 9, although I'm using vanilla RedHat and he has Ximian GNOME installed. I blamed Ximian and shrugged my shoulders in defeat. He tried snooping on X traffic when the problem occurred. In some mysterious way that he has not fully explained to me, this helped him track down the problem. Both of our computers have an nVidia GeForce MX 4 video card. When I first bought the computer, I had trouble with the XFree86 driver for that card (the X server would crash if I tried to change resolutions or color depths), so I switched to nVidia's own Linux driver. My colleague was still using the XFree86 driver. When he installed the nVidia driver, the problem vanished. The interesting part is that he didn't notice problems with any other application! We should give ourselves a collective pat on the back for so efficiently turning up video card driver problems. Suggested PROBLEMS file entry (under "Problems with running XEmacs", then "Linux": *** XEmacs fails to change the mouse cursor appropriately when the mouse is moved rapidly, turns it into a red "X", etc. Some users with nVidia GeForce 4 cards have reported this problem. It appears to be a bug in the XFree86 nv driver. Installing the driver available from www.nvidia.com reportedly fixes the problem. -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 16:21:15 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADLL9v09200; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:21:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADLKUV09042 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:20:30 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADLKTI09034 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:20:29 -0500 Received: from lostwithiel.cley.com (lostwithiel.cley.com [212.240.242.98]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADLKSv09027 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:20:28 -0500 Received: from lostwithiel.cley.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lostwithiel.cley.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hADLKQkq024453; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:20:26 GMT Received: (from tfb@localhost) by lostwithiel.cley.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hADLKQ2D024452; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:20:26 GMT X-Mailer: 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 10 I); VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid From: Tim Bradshaw MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16307.62871.647054.321638@cley.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:20:23 +0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I noticed in the recent package mail that you mentioned that new Sumos were going to be made. In case you're not intending to, it owuld be a good thing, I think, to send a separate mail with `Sumo' in the title when they are there - this makes it a bit easier for people like me who tend to just fetch and install new sumos when they appear to spot them. Thanks --tim From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 16:53:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADLr1v20786; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:53:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADLqgk20656 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:52:42 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADLqeu20642 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:52:40 -0500 Received: from mta.internal.itasoftware.com (ita4fw1.itasoftware.com [63.107.91.99]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADLqev20638 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:52:40 -0500 Received: from itasoftware.com (ita4fw1.itasoftware.com [63.107.91.99]) by mta.internal.itasoftware.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hADLqWIA027337; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:52:32 -0500 Received: (from greg@localhost) by itasoftware.com (8.11.6/8.8.7) id hADLqX110834; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:52:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: phl.internal.itasoftware.com: greg set sender to greg@itasoftware.com using -f From: gak@klanderman.net (Greg Klanderman) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org (XEmacs beta list) Subject: Re: window.c abort() crash in 21.4.6-14 Reply-To: gak@klanderman.net References: <200311132107.NAA01544@mina.soco.agilent.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:52:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200311132107.NAA01544@mina.soco.agilent.com> (Darryl Okahata's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:07:18 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi Darryl and Hrvoje, >>>>> Darryl Okahata writes: > Hrvoje Niksic wrote: >> > Do you have a lot of XEmacs "windows" (i.e., frames split multiple >> > times into multiple "XEmacs windows", not actual X11 windows)? I'm >> > wondering if the "500" value is too low, when lots of XEmacs >> > "windows" are present. No, I typically have at most 5 frames (total across two displays) of at most two windows each, and I've got 50-100 buffers if that matters. >> I don't see how the value 500 could be too low for anything resembling >> normal usage. It's far more realistic to assume that we're still >> seeing the infinite loop bug this used to guard against. :-( > That would be my guess, too. However, if commenting out the > abort() "fixes" the problem for Greg (as he seems to imply), and does > not cause an hang, then something else is going on .... Well, I just commented out that abort() yesterday, so it's too early to tell. But, as long as the "break" is there, it should not hang. Maybe I should put a printf() in so I know I've hit it at least.. what other data would be useful? thanks, greg From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 17:08:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADM81v25878; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:08:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADM7PJ25694 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:07:25 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADM76V25603 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:07:06 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hADM75v25593 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:07:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 20238 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2003 23:07:00 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (213.191.128.12) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 13 Nov 2003 23:07:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 8969 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2003 23:06:59 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 13 Nov 2003 23:06:59 +0100 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: gak@klanderman.net, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org (XEmacs beta list) Subject: Re: window.c abort() crash in 21.4.6-14 References: <200311132107.NAA01544@mina.soco.agilent.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:08:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200311132107.NAA01544@mina.soco.agilent.com> (Darryl Okahata's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:07:18 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Darryl Okahata writes: > That would be my guess, too. However, if commenting out the abort() > "fixes" the problem for Greg (as he seems to imply), and does not > cause an hang, then something else is going on .... Why would it hang? I thought the lose_lose+break code was there to work around bugs in the code by giving the appearance of correct behavior when the code bugs out. At least that was my impression when I last read that code, I could really be totally wrong about this. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 13 17:20:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADMK1v30348; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:20:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADMJN630159 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADMJLF30148 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:21 -0500 Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADMJJv30128; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:19 -0500 Received: from relcos1.cos.agilent.com (relcos1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.239]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7364225EF4; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:19:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD0647; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:18:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_25184)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id OAA03124; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:18:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200311132218.OAA03124@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: gak@klanderman.net, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org (XEmacs beta list) Subject: Re: window.c abort() crash in 21.4.6-14 Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:08:31 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:18:46 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Why would it hang? I thought the lose_lose+break code was there to > work around bugs in the code by giving the appearance of correct > behavior when the code bugs out. Yes, you're right. [ I'm juggling too many things, and all code is starting to look like a blur. ;-( Sorry. ] -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:19:24 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFHuv21802; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:17:56 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA8KYC413607 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:34:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA8KXrl13539 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:33:53 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se [217.215.191.28]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA8KXqv13531 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:33:52 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (ernst [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hA8KWtvZ015645; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:32:55 +0100 Received: (from matsl@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hA8KWrgl015643; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:32:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: matsl set sender to matsl@xemacs.org using -f To: Simon Josefsson Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Sync browse-url.el with FSF References: From: Mats Lidell Organization: The XEmacs Project X-Face: #[2| (Simon Josefsson's message of "Sat, 08 Nov 2003 02:13:09 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> Simon wrote: Simon> Follow the GNU ChangeLog syntax (see GNU Coding Standards) as Simon> close as possible, unless it is unreasonable. OK. After looking at your example for quite a while I saw how it was design. In the "sync" entry it is explained that the following entries up to a date is part of the sync. It give the necessary information but can be hard to follow when new entries are added. I mean, it is easy to miss the sync entry when you skim through the file. Still it is the best suggestion so far. If I don't get any other suggestion I'll go by your example when I send in the modified patch. Then it is up to the reviewers again. Yours -- %% Mats From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:29:21 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFTGv27893; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:29:16 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (63-168-40-35.cs-hr-ph.blacksburg.ntc-com.net [63.168.40.35]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA9Lgnv23381; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:42:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 13:52:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?QmlnZ2VyIFBlbmlzIHdpdGggdGhlIE5FVyBwYXRjaA==?= From: "Laurel Simon" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 To: xemacs-beta-ja-request@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-patches-request@xemacs.org, xemacs-build-reports@xemacs.org, xemacs-patches@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: ,








    From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:30:40 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFUcv29614; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:30:38 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA7Ip102739 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:18:51 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAA7Ib102681 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:18:37 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAA7IZv02674 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:18:35 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJ6Jh-0004p3-00; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:18:29 +0900 To: Michael Sperber Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Call for testers on bytecode fix (GCPRO_STACK/freed lrecord crash) References: <87smm1mika.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewmi0d2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877k38feyu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d6cz8s9v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878ynl4xb3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oewb0zqn.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <873cd4tviv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:18:29 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Michael Sperber's message of "Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:46:18 +0100") Message-ID: <87oevkeloa.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , OK, both Norbert and I have observed crashes with my patch. I tried GCPRO_STACK before Bset_buffer. That did not prevent another crash. The equal methods might as well be userland, there are so many of them.... I didn't try to do that, though, because I don't know where equal might be called (I first caught it in "Bmember", is there a "Bassoc"? and then "Bequal" codes themselves, urg). >>>>> "ms" == Michael Sperber writes: Hrvoje> Doesn't set-buffer change the values of all buffer-local Hrvoje> variables? I'm not sure if buffer-local vars can be Hrvoje> dontuse-ed, but if they can, Bset_buffer can GC. ms> It can theoretically call GC, but not in that place. (Look at ms> get_buffer.) I guess the equal methods might GC, or that's ms> what the code assumes, anyway. So I guess we stick a ms> GCPRO_STACK there, too. ms> Do you want me to take this again from now on, Stephen? ms> (Again, many, many thanks.) Please. I've spent some time tracing some of the calls and concluded that I simply don't have the background to do this effectively. But if you have a question, I'll be happy to try to describe what I've looked at so far (FWIW). My current experiment is to keep the GCPRO(stack[1]), and put a GCPRO_STACK in front of the while (there's more bytecode) loop. But I don't even know if that would do the right thing at all (and haven't even run make check to be sure weak tests pass :-/). That should give you an idea just how little I grok this. :-/ ms> The general implementation strategy for the byte-code is kind ms> of brain-dead, anyway. It sure isn't suitable for anything ms> but tectonic performance, that's for sure. Uh-oh. Not the byte-interpreter, too! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:33:27 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFXQv31552; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:33:26 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAImnM21418 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:48:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAImlC21405 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:48:47 -0500 Received: from smtp1.pp.htv.fi (smtp1.pp.htv.fi [212.90.64.119]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAImlv21395 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:48:47 -0500 Received: from posti.pp.htv.fi (posti.pp.htv.fi [212.90.64.50]) by smtp1.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5332B7FD8B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:48:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from [62.78.134.79] (cs78134079.pp.htv.fi [62.78.134.79]) by posti.pp.htv.fi (8.11.1 (Revision 1.5+JAGae91741+JAGae92668) /8.11.1) with ESMTP id hAAImfS16904 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:48:41 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-10-18) From: Ville =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Skytt=E4?= To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Message-Id: <1068490120.31522.33.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:48:40 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 20:34, Karl Pflästerer wrote: > On 10 Nov 2003, Norbert Koch <- viteno@xemacs.org wrote: > > > Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: > > ================================================== > [...] > > python-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > > I have a question to the python-mode. What does `No-Upstream-Ver' mean > exactly? It means that we haven't set the AUTHOR_VERSION in the Makefile, ie. we don't have information about which upstream version the python-modes package corresponds to. > The actual cvs version (from the Python cvs repository) is > quite different to the version in the XEmacs packages. > `pui-display-maintainer' lists that list as maintainer. If "that list" means xemacs-beta, yep. In other words, the python-modes package doesn't have a designated XEmacs package maintainter currently. Volunteers welcome, of course :) > Who compiles > the packages? Norbert? Yep. FYI: I have a python-modes sync with Python 2.3.2 in (slow) progress, when committing that I will set AUTHOR_VERSION to 2.3.2. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:31:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFV8v30111; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:31:08 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAABoVE03756 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:50:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAABoUr03745 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:50:30 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAABoUv03739 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:50:30 -0500 Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJAYv-0001t2-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:50:29 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJATP-0001pd-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:44:47 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJATP-0004SB-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:44:47 +0100 From: Uwe Brauer Subject: Re: transpose columns in region Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:40:56 +0000 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <70.3473b45a.2cdd4f0d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NX0/Uheg31o9x62Dvpqb/dfWfJ8= X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 7 Nov 2003, Robinows@aol.com wrote: > > From the Emacs Calc manual: > > "The v v (calc-reverse-vector) [vec] command reverses a vector > end-for-end. Given a matrix, it reverses the order of the rows. (To > reverse the columns instead, just use v t v v v t. The same > principle can be used to apply other vector commands to the columns > of a matrix.) " > > You'll have to do some reading to figure out how to get matrices in > and out of Calc. Hi Thanks for pointing this out, but which version of calc, I checked the 2.02 version shipped with xemacs-21.4.14 and this function is not included. BTW do you know whether characters could be elements of a matrix or it must be numbers. Uwe From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:35:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFZ4v00433; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:35:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABClvp01084 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:47:57 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABClfv01049 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:47:41 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hABClbv01039; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:47:37 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJXvk-0000ui-00; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:47:36 +0900 To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Failure to connect to remote hosts if started up while disconnected References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:47:36 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:00:25 +0100") Message-ID: <87r80f9imv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> If I start XEmacs while not connected to the network and Hrvoje> then connect, XEmacs cannot connect to any host -- it Hrvoje> fails with "temporary failure in name resolution". On the Hrvoje> other hand, if I start it while connected, everything Hrvoje> works fine, even if I then disconnect and connect again. This sounds similar to some bogosity reported on the Coda mailing list. Something's either busted in RH's nscd or there's some nitpicky detail in the spec that never mattered on any previous implementation, and yes, it's RH 9-specific. I'll look it up (will take a few days) and report back, or you can check yourself at http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/. Some people report that explicitly starting the ncsd by hand or at boot time helps, others say it makes no difference. Hrvoje> The error message sounds like it's a DNS problem, but I Hrvoje> don't know what's causing it. Mozilla doesn't seem to Hrvoje> have this problem. Do you know how much effort netscape.com put into robust and fast DNS performance over the years? :-/ -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:34:35 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFYXv32493; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:34:33 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAB599q25755 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:09:09 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAB594u25739 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:09:04 -0500 Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAB58sv25694 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:08:54 -0500 Received: from engmail1mpk.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.11.21]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAB58rxA017773 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:08:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from athyra.eng.sun.com (athyra.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.85.90]) by engmail1mpk.Eng.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id hAB58hDS022982; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:08:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from athyra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athyra.eng.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAB57iNN288726; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:07:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200311110507.hAB57iNN288726@athyra.eng.sun.com> From: Mike Kupfer To: XEmacs Beta Cc: mike.kupfer@sun.com Subject: [Bug: 21.4.14] live-icon problems Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:07:43 -0800 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I'm seeing 2-3 different problems with live-icon on 21.4.14 which I didn't see on 21.1.14. They may be related; I'm not sure. 1. When I minimize a frame, the image for the frame has the default XEmacs icon, rather than the miniature image of the frame that live-icon should generate. I see this with both GNOME 2.0 and with CDE. 2. Suppose I have two buffers A and B, each in its own frame. I type "aaa" in buffer A, click in the frame for buffer B, type "bbb", then minimize the frame using the window manager's toolbar. (I use "click to type" focus management, if that makes a difference.) At this point, one of two things happens. 2a. The window manager shows that the frame for buffer A has the input focus. I type "ccc". Nothing appears in buffer A. If I restore the frame with buffer B, I see that it has gotten the "ccc". I've seen this with both CDE and GNOME 2.0. However, I'm having problems coming up with a reproducible test case using "xemacs -vanilla", so I assume there's some complication introduced by my environment. For the moment I'll hope that a fix for 2b fixes this as well. 2b. I get an error (stack trace below). This is what I get if I'm using "xemacs -vanilla" and doing M-x load-library RET live-icon RET before initiating the test. Signaling: (args-out-of-range # 1 6) narrow-to-region(1 6) (if (> (window-end) (window-start)) (narrow-to-region (window-start) (1- ...))) (save-restriction (setq y ny ny (+ ny ...)) (aset pix (- ny 2) (make-string w m)) (widen) (if (> ... ...) (narrow-to-region ... ...)) (goto-char (point-min)) (while (and ... ...) (while ... ... ...) (setq y ...) (forward-line 1))) (save-window-excursion (select-window win) (save-restriction (setq y ny ny ...) (aset pix ... ...) (widen) (if ... ...) (goto-char ...) (while ... ... ... ...))) (save-excursion (save-window-excursion (select-window win) (save-restriction ... ... ... ... ... ...))) (lambda (win) (save-excursion (save-window-excursion ... ...)))(#) mapcar((lambda (win) (save-excursion (save-window-excursion ... ...))) (#)) (let* ((w ...) (h ...) (pix ...) (ny 0) (cmv ...) (d ...) (m ...) (x ...) y) (let (...) (while ... ... ...)) (mapcar (function ...) (sort ... ...)) (concat "/* XPM */\nstatic char icon[] = {\n" (format "\"%d %d %d 1\",\n" w ... ...) (mapconcat ... ... ",\n") ",\n" (mapconcat ... pix ",\n") "};\n")) (save-excursion (select-frame frame) (let* (... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... y) (let ... ...) (mapcar ... ...) (concat "/* XPM */\nstatic char icon[] = {\n" ... ... ",\n" ... "};\n"))) live-icon-from-frame(#) (set-glyph-image frame-icon-glyph (live-icon-from-frame frame) frame) (if (frame-property frame (quote balloon-help)) nil (set-glyph-image frame-icon-glyph (live-icon-from-frame frame) frame)) (unless (frame-property frame (quote balloon-help)) (set-glyph-image frame-icon-glyph (live-icon-from-frame frame) frame)) live-icon-one-frame(#) cheers, Mike Kupfer mike.kupfer@sun.com XEmacs maintainer, Solaris Companion CD ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: SunOS watford-71 5.9 Generic_112233-07 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-880 ./configure.ccd '--prefix=/opt/sfw' '--without-gif' '--without-ldap' '--with-msw=no' '--mail-locking=lockf' '--site-includes=/home/kupfer/ws/ccd-sparc/proto/root_sparc/opt/sfw/include' '--with-workshop' '--with-tooltalk' '--with-sparcworks' XEmacs 21.4.14 "Reasonable Discussion" configured for `sparc-sun-solaris2.9'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /net/watford-71/export/builds/kupfer/ccd-sparc/usr/src/cmd/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.14 Installation prefix: /opt/sfw Additional header files: /home/kupfer/ws/ccd-sparc/proto/root_sparc/opt/sfw/include Runtime library search path: /usr/ccs/lib:/usr/openwin/lib:/opt/sfw/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/2.95.3:/opt/sfw/lib Operating system description file: `s/sol2.h' Machine description file: `m/sparc.h' Compiler: /home/kupfer/ws/ccd-sparc/usr/src/tools/gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -fno-strict-aliasing -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/openwin/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/openwin/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for Motif. *WARNING* Many versions of Motif are buggy, requiring workarounds. You are likely to experience slow redisplay. You may need to install vendor patches to Motif. See PROBLEMS for more information. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for DBM. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "lockf" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for ToolTalk. Compiling in support for Sun WorkShop. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/opt/sfw/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /opt/sfw/lib/xemacs-21.4.14/lisp/build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular) (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.14 :type regular) (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) (time :version 1.13 :type regular) (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.63 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.24 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) (sml-mode :version 0.09 :type regular) (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular) (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular) (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.3 :type regular) (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular) (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .83 :type single-file) (pgg :version 1.03 :type regular) (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular) (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.15 :type regular) (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.6 :type regular) (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (efs :version 1.29 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.18 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.1 :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.13 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.39 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (efs-cu mh-comp xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 live-icon font-lock gnuserv filladapt mh-utils mh-e advice advice-preload xcscope cus-face vc vc-hooks workshop eserve env pending-del annotations comint ring sunpro zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp sparcworks tooltalk lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type usg-unix-v dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- button1 button1up C-x b a RET C-x 5 b b RET button1 button1up a a a button1 button1up b b b c c c button1 button1up button1 button1up button1 button1up BS ESC x l o a d - l i b RET l i v e - i c o n RET button1 button1up a a a button1 button1up button1 button1up b b b c c c ESC x r e p o r e t - x C-h C-h C-h C-h t - x e RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Wrote /home/kupfer/Mail/drafts/2 Loading efs-cu...done Loading efs-cu... Composing a message... Loading mh-comp...done Loading mh-comp... Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Loading live-icon...done Loading live-icon... Gnuserv process exited; restart with `M-x gnuserv-start' Restarting gnuserv Loading vc...done Loading vc... Loading xtermkeys...done Loading xtermkeys... Loading xhacks...done Loading mdk-menu...done Loading mdk-menu... Loading xhacks... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:38:37 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFcbv03272; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:38:37 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABMhwX22712 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:43:58 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hABMhtK22676 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:43:55 -0500 Received: from gizmo03bw.bigpond.com (gizmo03bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.13] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hABMhrv22669 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:43:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 4155 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 22:38:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO eicq.dnsalias.org) (144.135.24.75) by gizmo03bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 22:38:52 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-241-97.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.241.97]) by bwmam03bpa.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_3_2d 26/2719699); 12 Nov 2003 08:43:01 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hABMgwqV004218; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:42:58 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Failure to connect to remote hosts if started up while disconnected Keywords: xemacs,connect References: From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:42:55 +1000 In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:00:25 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "HN" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: HN> I've been ignoring this for a while now, but it's really become HN> annoying. The system is Red Hat 9, my internet connection is via a HN> 56k modem line. XEmacs is 21.4.13, compiled from source. HN> If I start XEmacs while not connected to the network and then connect, HN> XEmacs cannot connect to any host -- it fails with "temporary failure HN> in name resolution". On the other hand, if I start it while HN> connected, everything works fine, even if I then disconnect and HN> connect again. Have a look in PROBLEMS under the heading: "New problem: IPv6 CNAME lookup" ...because I bet your Linux kernel has IPV6 support compiled in. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll evEr | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj+xZfIACgkQHSfbS6lLMANTmQCfcJVAJtx6FDb4B3ee3hc4qmng d7MAnizd6yQFIAxL9u/hlg1hLEb3iZui =/xNN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:38:47 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFclv03426; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:38:47 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAC09iL18368 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:09:44 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAC09Vl18291 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:09:31 -0500 Received: from grendal.frinabulax.org (ky-morehdky-cmts1a-24-51-177-83.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.51.177.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAC09Uv18283 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:09:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.frinabulax.org [127.0.0.1]) by grendal.frinabulax.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAC09hpo007360 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:09:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:09:43 -0500 (EST) From: robert delius royar Reply-To: robert delius royar To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Failure for `make install' Message-ID: Organization: An Apple OS X XEmacs missionary Priority: NEW Precedence: first-class MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This error has been occuring for about two weeks. After a successful make of all the XEmacs parts, when I issue the command make install I get (after a bit of elc creation and such): Wrote /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/mule/custom-load.elc Building finder database ... ./xemacs -no-packages -batch -eval "(setq finder-compile-keywords-quiet t)" \ -l finder -f finder-compile-keywords Delete excess backup versions of /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/finder-inf.el? (y or n) Any reply leads to Fatal error: assertion failed, file charset.h, line 456, abort() make[1]: *** [/Users/royar/src/xemacs/src/../lisp/finder-inf.el] Abort trap make: *** [src] Error 2 Then, when I try `make install' again, I eventually get Compiling /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/.#finder-inf.el... # bind (stack-trace-on-signal debug-on-signal stack-trace-on-error debug-on-error) # (unwind-protect ...) signal(file-error ("Opening input file" "No such file or directory" "/Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/.#finder-inf.el")) byte-code("..." [visit filename err run-hook-with-args insert-file-contents-error-hook signal] 5) # bind (err return-val coding-system used-codesys replace end start visit filename) insert-file-contents("/Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/.#finder-inf.el") # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (byte-compile-current-file target-file input-buffer output-buffer byte-compile-dest-file load filename) byte-compile-file("/Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/.#finder-inf.el") (if (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file)) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file)) # bind (file-c) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file))) (if (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file)))) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file)))) (while --dolist-temp--101215 (setq file (car --dolist-temp--101215)) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file)))) (setq --dolist-temp--101215 (cdr --dolist-temp--101215))) # bind (file --dolist-temp--101215) (let ((--dolist-temp--101215 files) file) (while --dolist-temp--101215 (setq file (car --dolist-temp--101215)) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file)))) (setq --dolist-temp--101215 (cdr --dolist-temp--101215))) nil) # (catch --cl-block-nil-- ...) (catch (quote --cl-block-nil--) (let ((--dolist-temp--101215 files) file) (while --dolist-temp--101215 (setq file (car --dolist-temp--101215)) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file)))) (setq --dolist-temp--101215 (cdr --dolist-temp--101215))) nil)) (cl-block-wrapper (catch (quote --cl-block-nil--) (let ((--dolist-temp--101215 files) file) (while --dolist-temp--101215 (setq file (car --dolist-temp--101215)) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file)))) (setq --dolist-temp--101215 (cdr --dolist-temp--101215))) nil))) (block nil (let ((--dolist-temp--101215 files) file) (while --dolist-temp--101215 (setq file (car --dolist-temp--101215)) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file)))) (setq --dolist-temp--101215 (cdr --dolist-temp--101215))) nil)) (dolist (file files) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file))))) (if compile-stage-p (dolist (file files) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file))))) (let (deleted) (dolist (file files) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (member file-c files) (file-newer-than-file-p file file-c)) (message "Removing out-of-date %s" file-c) (delete-file file-c) (push file-c deleted))))) (dolist (file-c files) (when (string-match "\\.elc$" file-c) (let ((file (replace-in-string file-c "c$" ""))) (when (not (member file files)) (message "Removing %s; no corresponding .el" file-c) (delete-file file-c) (push file-c deleted))))) (setq files (set-difference files deleted :test (quote equal))))) # bind (files) (let ((files (or (gethash dir dirfiles-table) (directory-files dir t nil t)))) (if compile-stage-p (dolist (file files) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file))))) (let (deleted) (dolist (file files) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (member file-c files) (file-newer-than-file-p file file-c)) (message "Removing out-of-date %s" file-c) (delete-file file-c) (push file-c deleted))))) (dolist (file-c files) (when (string-match "\\.elc$" file-c) (let ((file (replace-in-string file-c "c$" ""))) (when (not (member file files)) (message "Removing %s; no corresponding .el" file-c) (delete-file file-c) (push file-c deleted))))) (setq files (set-difference files deleted :test (quote equal))))) (puthash dir files dirfiles-table) (dolist (dir (directory-files dir t nil t (quote dir))) (when (not (member (file-name-nondirectory dir) update-elc-ignored-dirs)) (do-update-elc-2 dir compile-stage-p seen)))) (if (member (file-truename dir) seen) nil (push (file-truename dir) seen) (let ((files (or (gethash dir dirfiles-table) (directory-files dir t nil t)))) (if compile-stage-p (dolist (file files) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file))))) (let (deleted) (dolist (file files) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (member file-c files) (file-newer-than-file-p file file-c)) (message "Removing out-of-date %s" file-c) (delete-file file-c) (push file-c deleted))))) (dolist (file-c files) (when (string-match "\\.elc$" file-c) (let ((file (replace-in-string file-c "c$" ""))) (when (not (member file files)) (message "Removing %s; no corresponding .el" file-c) (delete-file file-c) (push file-c deleted))))) (setq files (set-difference files deleted :test (quote equal))))) (puthash dir files dirfiles-table) (dolist (dir (directory-files dir t nil t (quote dir))) (when (not (member (file-name-nondirectory dir) update-elc-ignored-dirs)) (do-update-elc-2 dir compile-stage-p seen))))) (unless (member (file-truename dir) seen) (push (file-truename dir) seen) (let ((files (or (gethash dir dirfiles-table) (directory-files dir t nil t)))) (if compile-stage-p (dolist (file files) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (not (member file-c files)) (let (ignore) (mapcar (function (lambda (regexp) (if (string-match regexp (file-name-nondirectory file)) (setq ignore t)))) update-elc-ignored-files) (not ignore))) (byte-compile-file file))))) (let (deleted) (dolist (file files) (when (string-match "\\.el$" file) (let ((file-c (concat file "c"))) (when (and (member file-c files) (file-newer-than-file-p file file-c)) (message "Removing out-of-date %s" file-c) (delete-file file-c) (push file-c deleted))))) (dolist (file-c files) (when (string-match "\\.elc$" file-c) (let ((file (replace-in-string file-c "c$" ""))) (when (not (member file files)) (message "Removing %s; no corresponding .el" file-c) (delete-file file-c) (push file-c deleted))))) (setq files (set-difference files deleted :test (quote equal))))) (puthash dir files dirfiles-table) (dolist (dir (directory-files dir t nil t (quote dir))) (when (not (member (file-name-nondirectory dir) update-elc-ignored-dirs)) (do-update-elc-2 dir compile-stage-p seen))))) # bind (seen compile-stage-p dir) do-update-elc-2("/Users/royar/src/xemacs/src/../lisp" t nil) # bind (dir) (let ((dir (car command-line-args-left))) (load "autoload") (load "bytecomp") (load "byte-optimize") (when (file-exists-p (expand-file-name "REBUILD_AUTOLOADS" invocation-directory)) (let ((generated-autoload-file (expand-file-name "auto-autoloads.el" dir)) (autoload-package-name "auto")) (update-autoload-files (list dir) nil t) (byte-recompile-file generated-autoload-file 0)) (when (featurep (quote mule)) (let* ((muledir (expand-file-name "../lisp/mule" (file-truename dir))) (generated-autoload-file (expand-file-name "auto-autoloads.el" muledir)) (autoload-package-name "mule")) (update-autoload-files (list muledir) nil t) (byte-recompile-file generated-autoload-file 0)))) (when (featurep (quote modules)) (let* ((moddir (expand-file-name "../modules" (file-truename dir))) (generated-autoload-file (expand-file-name "auto-autoloads.el" moddir)) (autoload-package-name "modules")) (update-autoload-files (delete (concat (file-name-as-directory moddir) ".") (delete (concat (file-name-as-directory moddir) "..") (directory-files moddir t nil nil 0))) t) (byte-recompile-file generated-autoload-file 0))) (load (expand-file-name "auto-autoloads" lisp-directory)) (when (featurep (quote mule)) (load (expand-file-name "mule/auto-autoloads" lisp-directory))) (message "Removing old or spurious .elcs in directory tree `%s'..." dir) (do-update-elc-2 dir nil nil) (message "Removing old or spurious .elcs in directory tree `%s'...done" dir) (message "Recompiling updated .els in directory tree `%s'..." dir) (do-update-elc-2 dir t nil) (message "Recompiling updated .els in directory tree `%s'...done" dir) (load "cus-dep") (Custom-make-dependencies dir) (byte-recompile-file (expand-file-name "custom-load.el" dir) 0) (when (featurep (quote mule)) (Custom-make-dependencies (expand-file-name "mule" dir)) (byte-recompile-file (expand-file-name "mule/custom-load.el" dir) 0))) batch-update-elc-2() # bind (arg) command-line-do-funcall("-f") # bind (dir file-count line end-of-options file-p arg tem) command-line-1() # bind (command-line-args-left) command-line() # bind (error-data) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Issuing the commands rm /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/*.el.~* rm /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/mule/*.el.~* BEFORE running install fixes the errors. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:40:24 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFeOv04384; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:40:24 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAC5vfO04655 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:57:41 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAC5vMM04586 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:57:22 -0500 Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAC5uIv04376 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:56:18 -0500 Received: from batcave.m198-149.dsl.rawbw.com.rawbw.com (m198-149.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.198.149]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAC5uAf55901 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:56:11 -0800 (PST) Date: 11 Nov 2003 21:48:46 -0800 Message-Id: From: David Masterson To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Outline and Text modes X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! The variables in outline.el and text-mode.el need to be made customizable. This is especially true of the hook variables (particularly outline-mode-hook) which are not declared at all and, so, are not something that a user can apropos easily. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux astest 2.4.9-e.8smp #1 SMP Fri Jul 19 15:38:30 EDT 2002 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux ./configure 'i386-redhat-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--libdir=/usr/lib' '--mandir=/usr/share/man/man1' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--with-gpm=no' '--with-sound=native' '--with-pop' '--mail-locking=lockf' '--with-clash-detection' '--debug=no' '--error-checking=none' '--with-mule=yes' '--with-database=berkdb' '--with-ldap=yes' '--with-hesiod=no' '--with-canna=yes' '--with-wnn=yes' '--with-widgets=motif' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-scrollbars=lucid' '--with-dialogs=motif' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-msw=no' '--with-xfs=yes' '--pdump' XEmacs 21.4.8 "Honest Recruiter" configured for `i386-redhat-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/build/141167-i386/BUILD/xemacs-21.4.8 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for the WNN input method on Mule. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "lockf" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/home/dsm/.xemacs/custom /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.8/lisp/custom /usr/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/alist /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.8/lisp/alist) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.1 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.02 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.47 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.66 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.25 :type regular) (vm :version 7.07 :type regular) (viper :version 1.34 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.15 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.33 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.05 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.34 :type regular) (time :version 1.11 :type regular) (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.48 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:41:29 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFfSv05274; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:41:28 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACHDe927827 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:13:40 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hACHDdn27810 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:13:39 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hACHDbv27785 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:13:37 -0500 Received: from pd9518afb.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.138.251] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AJyYh-000EwQ-WC for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:13:36 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AJyax-000CAT-R6 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:15:55 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Recent crashes 21.5.16 From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Hi! I get crashes with traces as the one enclosed here rather often recently when reading or sending mails in Gnus, in fact after applying Stephen's patch. Is this just another representation of the GC bug or some other bug? 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    From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:43:57 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFhvv07754; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:43:57 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADDJVT12139 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:19:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADDJUH12131 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:19:30 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADDJTv12127 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:19:29 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AKHNb-0008Gz-00; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:19:23 +0900 To: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Need Chinese/Japanese fonts to display Russian texts! References: <87znf1irzs.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:19:23 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Nickolay Pakoulin's message of "Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:07:43 +0300") Message-ID: <873ccsiexw.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nickolay" == Nickolay Pakoulin writes: Nickolay> Yes, but not under Windows, and not MULE (because Nickolay> decoding / encoding tables are broken in non-cyrillic Nickolay> part of the table, see below). Oh, my. :-( Nickolay> Comments / suggestions ? I really, really appreciate you going to the trouble of doing all this background study. We seem to have a moderately active contingent of Russian users, but they mostly have been either silent in the devel channels, or more interested in "mainstream" issues rather than specifically Cyrillic support. I'll look at your stuff ASAP, which means sometime next week, sorry. At that point I'll try to specifically drag Ben into the discussion. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:46:27 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFkQv10193; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:46:26 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADL7bZ05374 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:07:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADL7NJ05307 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:07:23 -0500 Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADL7Kv05283; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:07:20 -0500 Received: from relcos1.cos.agilent.com (relcos1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.239]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B830025953; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:07:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56548CD; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:07:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_25184)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id NAA01544; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:07:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200311132107.NAA01544@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: gak@klanderman.net, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org (XEmacs beta list) Subject: Re: window.c abort() crash in 21.4.6-14 Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:11:34 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:07:18 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > > Do you have a lot of XEmacs "windows" (i.e., frames split multiple > > times into multiple "XEmacs windows", not actual X11 windows)? I'm > > wondering if the "500" value is too low, when lots of XEmacs > > "windows" are present. > > I don't see how the value 500 could be too low for anything resembling > normal usage. It's far more realistic to assume that we're still > seeing the infinite loop bug this used to guard against. :-( That would be my guess, too. However, if commenting out the abort() "fixes" the problem for Greg (as he seems to imply), and does not cause an hang, then something else is going on .... -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:46:36 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFkav10316; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:46:36 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADLbqL15226 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:37:52 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADLbot15215 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:37:50 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADLbov15208 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:37:50 -0500 Received: from p50831e88.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.30.136] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AKP9x-000JfX-CJ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:37:49 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AKPCC-000LzW-W0; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:40:08 +0100 To: Tim Bradshaw Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) References: <16307.62871.647054.321638@cley.com> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:40:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: <16307.62871.647054.321638@cley.com> (Tim Bradshaw's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:20:23 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Tim Bradshaw writes: Hi Tim, > be a good thing, I think, to send a separate mail with `Sumo' in the > title when they are there - this makes it a bit easier for people like > me who tend to just fetch and install new sumos when they appear to > spot them. I'm going to announce new SUMOs as soon as they'll hit the package directory. I've put that sentence in the announcement so people don't have to ask whether I'm going to release new SUMO packages :) norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:46:19 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFkIv10083; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:46:18 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADKXh428774 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:33:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADKXdI28745 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:33:39 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADKSDv26569; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:28:13 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADKRJA26349 for xemacs-announce-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:27:19 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADKRF826330 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:27:15 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADKREv26325 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:27:15 -0500 Received: from p5083188c.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.24.140] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AKO3c-000Cos-Rg for xemacs-announce@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:27:12 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AKO5t-000K0d-0R for xemacs-announce@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:29:33 +0100 To: xemacs-announce@xemacs.org Subject: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) From: Norbert Koch Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Old-X-XEmacs-List: announce X-BeenThere: xemacs-announce@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello. The following XEmacs packages have just been released. Most of the packages have been updated due to maintenance issues. I'm happy to introduce a new package riece a successor to liece, ie an IRC client you can use from your favourite editor. Please note that liece is now marked as deprecated and will be removed sometime in the future. There are known bugs in the current version of latin-unity. We're working on it. Stay tuned to xemacs-beta for upcoming versions. I'll create new SUMO packages, too. 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xemacs-packages/build ----- 2003-10-19 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.13 released. 2003-10-18 Adrian Aichner * build-report.el: Update copyright years. * build-report.el (build-report-keep-regexp): Update build-report.el for test harness output. * build-report.el (build-report-delete-regexp): Ditto. * build-report.el (build-report-installation-data): Handle builds of non-beta versions. * build-report.el (build-report-version-file-data): Ditto. 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.12 released. 2003-09-30 Jerry James * build.el (build): Minor typo correction. 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.11 released. 2003-10-12 Adrian Aichner * build.texi: Add dircategory Emacs. * build.texi (Top): Move from incorrect use of @var to correct use of @code. * build.texi (Build Overview): Ditto. * build.texi (Build Installation): Ditto. * build.texi (Build XEmacs From CVS): Ditto. * build.texi (Build XEmacs From Tarballs): Ditto. * build.texi (Build XEmacs With GNU Tools): Ditto. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/clearcase ----- 2003-10-19 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.07 released. 2003-10-18 Adrian Aichner * clearcase.el: Sync with upstream version /main/laptop/116. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/docbookide ----- 2003-10-28 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 0.07 released. 2003-10-26 Ville Skyttä * dbide-font.el (docbook-font-lock-keywords): Avoid unnecessary regexp-opt calls. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ediff ----- 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.48 released. 2003-10-12 Michael Kifer * ediff-mult.el (ediff-filegroup-action): use ediff-default-filtering-regexp. * ediff-util.el (ediff-recenter): don't call ediff-restore-highlighting twice. (ediff-select-difference): set current difference. (ediff-unselect-and-select-difference): added comment. * ediff.el (ediff-directories,ediff-directory-revisions, ediff-directories3,ediff-merge-directories, ediff-merge-directories-with-ancestor,ediff-merge-directory-revisions, ediff-merge-directory-revisions-with-ancestor): use ediff-default-filtering-regexp. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/edit-utils ----- 2003-10-20 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 2.09 released. 2003-10-20 Jake Colman * Makefile (ELCS): new library highline.el * edit-utils.texi: * edit-utils.texi (Top): * edit-utils.texi (paren): * edit-utils.texi (shell-font): * edit-utils.texi (highline): * edit-utils.texi (highline-keys): * edit-utils.texi (highline-hooks): * edit-utils.texi (highline-options): * package-info.in: 2003-10-17 Andrew W. Nosenko * func-menu.el: Add autoconf mode support. (fume-function-name-regexp-autoconf): New variable. (fume-function-name-regexp-alist): Use it. 2003-10-16 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 2.08 released. 2003-10-15 Jake Colman * Makefile (ELCS): new library narrow-stack.el * edit-utils.texi (Top): * edit-utils.texi (Align Usage): * edit-utils.texi (allout): * edit-utils.texi (narrow-stack): documentation for new library - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ess/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-10 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.06 released. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/gnus ----- 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.73 released. 2003-10-12 Adrian Aichner * texi/gnus.texi: General typo and whitespace fixes from gnus CVS, carefully avoiding syncing documentation of new features. * texi/gnus.texi (Mail Source Specifiers): uref fixes. 2003-10-10 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.72 released. 2003-10-09 Steve Youngs * Makefile (MAINTAINER): Update my email address. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/hm--html-menus ----- 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.22 released. 2003-09-30 Norbert Koch * hm--html-menu.el: Use menu functionality only if it's bound. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ispell ----- 2003-11-02 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.26 released. 2003-11-01 Ville Skyttä * Makefile (AUTHOR_VERSION): This is 3.3. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/jde ----- 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.46 released. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from mule-packages/latin-unity/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-09 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.09 released. 2003-11-09 Steve Youngs * Makefile (EXTRA_SOURCES): Add `latin-unity-tables.el'. (GENERATED_ELCS): Removed, obsolete. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/mmm-mode ----- 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.01 released. 2003-10-19 Ville Skyttä * mmm-compat.el (mmm-regexp-opt): Alias to regexp-opt according to new, synced regexp-opt interface. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/os-utils ----- 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.33 released. 2003-10-03 Ilya N. Golubev * background.el (background-search-job-space): Fix byte-compiler warning. (background): Fix (usually not happening) direct `background-get-job-name-simple' call. * rlogin.el (rlogin-parse-words): Fix (supposed) match-data restoring. 2003-10-03 Ilya N. Golubev * rlogin.el (rlogin): Remove unneeded duplication of process marker setting done inside `comint-exec'. 2003-10-03 Ilya N. Golubev * background.el (background): Use `insert-before-markers' for text to output, like `comint-output-filter' does. 2003-09-22 Steve Youngs * Makefile (EXPLICIT_DOCS): Removed. (STANDARD_DOCS): Use this instead. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/prog-modes ----- 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.91 released. 2003-10-19 Ville Skyttä * verilog-mode.el: Remove regexp-opt workarounds, defalias verilog-regexp-opt to regexp-opt instead. * php-mode.el (php-font-lock-keywords-3): Remove obsolete regexp-opt comment. 2003-10-16 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.90 released. 2003-10-15 Peter Osterlund * p4.el: Sync with upstream version. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/riece ----- 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.12 released. 2003-10-27 Daiki Ueno * riece-identity.el: * riece-xemacs.el: Fix build for 21.1. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/scheme ----- 2003-10-28 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.14 released. 2003-10-26 Ville Skyttä * scheme.el: Partial sync with GNU Emacs 21.3 (mostly DSSSL). Add auto-mode-alist autoload cookie for *.dsl, *.dsssl. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/text-modes/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.71 released. 2003-11-12 Adrian Aichner * folding.el: Typo fixes for docstrings and comments. 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.70 released. 2003-10-19 Ville Skyttä * desktop-entry-mode.el (desktop-entry-keywords): Change according to new, synced regexp-opt interface. (desktop-entry-mode-version): 0.92. 2003-10-19 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.69 released. * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream version 1.12. 2003-10-16 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.68 released. * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream version 1.4. 2003-10-15 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.67 released. * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream. 2003-10-09 Ville Skyttä * apache-mode.el (apache-font-lock-keywords): Reorganize mod_perl keywords, add mod_perl 2 keywords. 2003-10-13 Ville Skyttä * desktop-entry-mode.el (desktop-entry-font-lock-keywords): Highlight comments, fix keyword highlight. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/x-symbol ----- 2003-10-26 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.07 released. 2003-10-21 Adrian Aichner * man/x-symbol.texi (Wishlist Fonts): Fix broken listdevel usage in uref. 2003-10-10 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.06 released. 2003-10-09 Steve Youngs * Makefile (MAINTAINER): Update my email address. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/xemacs-base ----- 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.82 released. 2003-10-20 Ville Skyttä * regexp-opt.el: API + returned regexp compatibility sync with GNU Emacs 21.3. The major backwards-incompatible change is that the shy/non-shy argument has been dropped from `regexp-opt', `regexp-opt-depth' and `regexp-opt-group'. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/xemacs-devel ----- 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.59 released. 2003-03-07 David A. Panariti * eldoc.el (eldoc-get-doc): Factored document string extraction code out of `eldoc-print-current-symbol-info'. (eldoc-print-current-symbol-info): Calls `eldoc-get-doc' to get doc to print. (eldoc-doc): New function. Gets doc for current symbol and displays it in the echo area. (eldoc-insert-elisp-func-template): New function. Converts doc from `eldoc-get-doc' into a function template and inserts it at point. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/xslide ----- 2003-10-28 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.09 released. 2003-10-26 Ville Skyttä * xslide-font.el (xsl-font-lock-keywords): Avoid unnecessary regexp-opt calls. Installing These: ================ Manually: - -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: [1] /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [2] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): - ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> choose site 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): - ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> choose site 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. Norbert Koch, XEmacs Package Release Manager Footnotes: [1] Or from a mirror near you. 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Additionally general-docs is in package-index and the windows setup*.ini's at ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/windows/ but there's no such tarball (and AFAICT shouldn't be). From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:51:18 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFpIv14188; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:51:18 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAEHkfG21110 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:46:41 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAEHkaL21081 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:46:36 -0500 Received: from EXCHVS1.medctr.ad.wfubmc.edu (exchvs1.medctr.ad.wfubmc.edu [152.11.200.72]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAEHkZv21059 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:46:35 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:46:33 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) Thread-Index: AcOqJfN+w4cZu44bTH6HE92yETlm3gAsNbbg From: "Latchezar Dimitrov" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hAEHkZv21059 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Thanks. Just to let you know, for some reason I cannot install either through packages menu of xemacs or by the net installer general-docs-1.01-pkg.tar.gz. The net installer simply says it cannot be d/l'd. As you can guess I'm talking about xemacs for windows. Latchezar > -----Original Message----- > From: Norbert Koch [mailto:viteno@xemacs.org] > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:30 PM > To: xemacs-announce@xemacs.org > Subject: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello. > > The following XEmacs packages have just been released. Most > of the packages have been updated due to maintenance issues. > > I'm happy to introduce a new package riece a successor to > liece, ie an IRC client you can use from your favourite > editor. Please note that liece is now marked as deprecated > and will be removed sometime in the future. > > There are known bugs in the current version of latin-unity. > We're working on it. Stay tuned to xemacs-beta for upcoming versions. > > I'll create new SUMO packages, too. > > > Updated or New Packages: > ======================= > Sun-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > ada-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.27 > apel-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 10.2 > bbdb-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.34 > build-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02 > c-support-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > calc-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02fX3 > calendar-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > cc-mode-1.41-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.30.7 > clearcase-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > cookie-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > crisp-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.34 > debug-1.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > dired-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.11 > docbookide-0.07-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1 > ecb-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.96 > ecrypto-0.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0 > edebug-1.20-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > edict-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.9.9 > ediff-1.49-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.75 > edit-utils-2.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > edt-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > efs-1.32-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.22 > egg-its-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > eieio-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.17 > elib-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0 > emerge-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > eshell-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.4.1 > ess-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.1.21 > eterm-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > eudc-1.39-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.32 > footnote-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.18x > forms-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.37 > fortran-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > frame-icon-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > fsf-compat-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > games-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.04 > general-docs-1.01-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > gnats-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.101 > gnus-1.73-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.10.2 > haskell-mode-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.44 > hm--html-menus-1.23-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.9 > hyperbole-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.18 > ibuffer-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > idlwave-1.31-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.1 > igrep-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.95 > ilisp-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.12.0 > ispell-1.26-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.3 > jde-1.46-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.3.2 > latin-unity-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.08 > latin-unity-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.09 > leim-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > locale-1.21-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > lookup-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0 > mail-lib-1.63-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > mailcrypt-2.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.5.8 > mew-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.94.2 > mh-e-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.4.2 > mine-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.9 > misc-games-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > mmm-mode-1.01-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.4.7 > mule-base-1.44-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > mule-ucs-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.84 > net-utils-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > ocaml-0.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.06 > oo-browser-1.04-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.08 > os-utils-1.34-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > pc-1.26-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > pcl-cvs-1.65-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: R-2_9_9 > pcomplete-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.1.6 > perl-modes-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > pgg-1.04-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1 > prog-modes-1.91-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > ps-print-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 6.5.6 > psgml-dtds-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > python-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > reftex-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.21 > riece-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1.5 > rmail-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > ruby-modes-1.02-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.6.8 > sasl-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.14.4 > scheme-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > semantic-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.4.2 > sgml-1.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > sh-script-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0e > sieve-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > slider-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.3x1 > sml-mode-0.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.9.5 > sounds-au-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > sounds-wav-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > speedbar-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.14beta4 > strokes-1.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > supercite-1.20-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.55x3 > texinfo-1.25-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > text-modes-1.71-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > textools-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > time-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.17 > tm-1.37-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > tooltalk-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > tpu-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.2X > vc-1.38-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > vc-cc-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > vhdl-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.31.20 > view-process-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.4 > viper-1.37-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.09 > vm-7.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.17 > w3-1.29-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.0pre47 > x-symbol-1.07-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.5.1 > xemacs-base-1.82-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > xemacs-devel-1.59-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 21.4 > xemacs-devel-1.60-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > xslide-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.2.2 > zenirc-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.112 > > > Detailed Changes: > ================ > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/build ----- > > 2003-10-19 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.13 released. > > 2003-10-18 Adrian Aichner > > * build-report.el: Update copyright years. > * build-report.el (build-report-keep-regexp): Update > build-report.el for test harness output. > * build-report.el (build-report-delete-regexp): Ditto. > * build-report.el (build-report-installation-data): Handle > builds of non-beta versions. > * build-report.el (build-report-version-file-data): Ditto. > > 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.12 released. > > 2003-09-30 Jerry James > > * build.el (build): Minor typo correction. > > 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.11 released. > > 2003-10-12 Adrian Aichner > > * build.texi: Add dircategory Emacs. > * build.texi (Top): Move from incorrect use of @var to > correct use > of @code. > * build.texi (Build Overview): Ditto. > * build.texi (Build Installation): Ditto. > * build.texi (Build XEmacs From CVS): Ditto. > * build.texi (Build XEmacs From Tarballs): Ditto. > * build.texi (Build XEmacs With GNU Tools): Ditto. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/clearcase ----- > > 2003-10-19 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.07 released. > > 2003-10-18 Adrian Aichner > > * clearcase.el: Sync with upstream version /main/laptop/116. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/docbookide ----- > > 2003-10-28 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 0.07 released. > > 2003-10-26 Ville Skyttä > > * dbide-font.el (docbook-font-lock-keywords): Avoid unnecessary > regexp-opt calls. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ediff ----- > > 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.48 released. > > 2003-10-12 Michael Kifer > > * ediff-mult.el (ediff-filegroup-action): use > ediff-default-filtering-regexp. > > * ediff-util.el (ediff-recenter): don't call > ediff-restore-highlighting twice. > (ediff-select-difference): set current difference. > (ediff-unselect-and-select-difference): added comment. > > * ediff.el (ediff-directories,ediff-directory-revisions, > ediff-directories3,ediff-merge-directories, > > ediff-merge-directories-with-ancestor,ediff-merge-directory-revisions, > ediff-merge-directory-revisions-with-ancestor): use > ediff-default-filtering-regexp. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/edit-utils ----- > > 2003-10-20 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 2.09 released. > > 2003-10-20 Jake Colman > > * Makefile (ELCS): new library highline.el > * edit-utils.texi: > * edit-utils.texi (Top): > * edit-utils.texi (paren): > * edit-utils.texi (shell-font): > * edit-utils.texi (highline): > * edit-utils.texi (highline-keys): > * edit-utils.texi (highline-hooks): > * edit-utils.texi (highline-options): > * package-info.in: > > 2003-10-17 Andrew W. Nosenko > > * func-menu.el: Add autoconf mode support. > (fume-function-name-regexp-autoconf): New variable. > (fume-function-name-regexp-alist): Use it. > > 2003-10-16 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 2.08 released. > > 2003-10-15 Jake Colman > > * Makefile (ELCS): new library narrow-stack.el > * edit-utils.texi (Top): > * edit-utils.texi (Align Usage): > * edit-utils.texi (allout): > * edit-utils.texi (narrow-stack): documentation for new library > > > > - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ess/ChangeLog ------- > > 2003-11-10 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.06 released. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/gnus ----- > > 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.73 released. > > 2003-10-12 Adrian Aichner > > * texi/gnus.texi: General typo and whitespace fixes > from gnus CVS, > carefully avoiding syncing documentation of new features. > * texi/gnus.texi (Mail Source Specifiers): uref fixes. > > 2003-10-10 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.72 released. > > 2003-10-09 Steve Youngs > > * Makefile (MAINTAINER): Update my email address. > > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/hm--html-menus ----- > > 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.22 released. > > 2003-09-30 Norbert Koch > > * hm--html-menu.el: Use menu functionality only if it's bound. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ispell ----- > > 2003-11-02 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.26 released. > > 2003-11-01 Ville Skyttä > > * Makefile (AUTHOR_VERSION): This is 3.3. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/jde ----- > > 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.46 released. > > > > - ------- ChangeLog Entries from > mule-packages/latin-unity/ChangeLog ------- > > 2003-11-09 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.09 released. > > 2003-11-09 Steve Youngs > > * Makefile (EXTRA_SOURCES): Add `latin-unity-tables.el'. > (GENERATED_ELCS): Removed, obsolete. > > > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/mmm-mode ----- > > 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.01 released. > > 2003-10-19 Ville Skyttä > > * mmm-compat.el (mmm-regexp-opt): Alias to regexp-opt > according to new, synced regexp-opt interface. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/os-utils ----- > > 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.33 released. > > 2003-10-03 Ilya N. Golubev > > * background.el (background-search-job-space): Fix byte-compiler > warning. > (background): Fix (usually not happening) direct > `background-get-job-name-simple' call. > > * rlogin.el (rlogin-parse-words): Fix (supposed) match-data > restoring. > > 2003-10-03 Ilya N. Golubev > > * rlogin.el (rlogin): Remove unneeded duplication of process > marker setting done inside `comint-exec'. > > 2003-10-03 Ilya N. Golubev > > * background.el (background): Use > `insert-before-markers' for text > to output, like `comint-output-filter' does. > > 2003-09-22 Steve Youngs > > * Makefile (EXPLICIT_DOCS): Removed. > (STANDARD_DOCS): Use this instead. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/prog-modes ----- > > 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.91 released. > > 2003-10-19 Ville Skyttä > > * verilog-mode.el: Remove regexp-opt workarounds, defalias > verilog-regexp-opt to regexp-opt instead. > > * php-mode.el (php-font-lock-keywords-3): Remove obsolete > regexp-opt comment. > > 2003-10-16 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.90 released. > > 2003-10-15 Peter Osterlund > > * p4.el: Sync with upstream version. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/riece ----- > > 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.12 released. > > 2003-10-27 Daiki Ueno > > * riece-identity.el: > * riece-xemacs.el: Fix build for 21.1. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/scheme ----- > > 2003-10-28 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.14 released. > > 2003-10-26 Ville Skyttä > > * scheme.el: Partial sync with GNU Emacs 21.3 (mostly DSSSL). > Add auto-mode-alist autoload cookie for *.dsl, *.dsssl. > > > > > - ------- ChangeLog Entries from > xemacs-packages/text-modes/ChangeLog ------- > > 2003-11-13 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.71 released. > > 2003-11-12 Adrian Aichner > > * folding.el: Typo fixes for docstrings and comments. > > 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.70 released. > > 2003-10-19 Ville Skyttä > > * desktop-entry-mode.el (desktop-entry-keywords): > Change according to new, synced regexp-opt interface. > (desktop-entry-mode-version): 0.92. > > 2003-10-19 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.69 released. > > * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream version 1.12. > > 2003-10-16 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.68 released. > > * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream version 1.4. > > 2003-10-15 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.67 released. > > * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream. > > 2003-10-09 Ville Skyttä > > * apache-mode.el (apache-font-lock-keywords): > Reorganize mod_perl keywords, add mod_perl 2 keywords. > > 2003-10-13 Ville Skyttä > > * desktop-entry-mode.el (desktop-entry-font-lock-keywords): > Highlight comments, fix keyword highlight. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/x-symbol ----- > > 2003-10-26 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.07 released. > > 2003-10-21 Adrian Aichner > > * man/x-symbol.texi (Wishlist Fonts): Fix broken listdevel usage > in uref. > > 2003-10-10 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.06 released. > > 2003-10-09 Steve Youngs > > * Makefile (MAINTAINER): Update my email address. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/xemacs-base ----- > > 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.82 released. > > 2003-10-20 Ville Skyttä > > * regexp-opt.el: API + returned regexp compatibility sync with > GNU Emacs 21.3. The major backwards-incompatible change is that > the shy/non-shy argument has been dropped from `regexp-opt', > `regexp-opt-depth' and `regexp-opt-group'. > > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/xemacs-devel ----- > > 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.59 released. > > 2003-03-07 David A. Panariti > > * eldoc.el (eldoc-get-doc): Factored document string extraction > code out of `eldoc-print-current-symbol-info'. > > (eldoc-print-current-symbol-info): Calls `eldoc-get-doc' to get > doc to print. > > (eldoc-doc): New function. Gets doc for current symbol and > displays it in the echo area. > > (eldoc-insert-elisp-func-template): New function. Converts doc > from `eldoc-get-doc' into a function template and inserts it at > point. > > > - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/xslide ----- > > 2003-10-28 Norbert Koch > > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.09 released. > > 2003-10-26 Ville Skyttä > > * xslide-font.el (xsl-font-lock-keywords): Avoid unnecessary > regexp-opt calls. > > > > Installing These: > ================ > > Manually: > - -------- > 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: [1] > /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/ > 2) Unpack them to: [2] > /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ > 3) Re-start XEmacs. > > Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): > - ---------------------------------------------- > 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> choose site > 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install > 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief > instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). > 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected > 5) Re-start XEmacs. > > Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): > - ------------------------------------------- > 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> choose site > 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install > 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. > > > Norbert Koch, > XEmacs Package Release Manager > > > Footnotes: > [1] Or from a mirror near you. > > [2] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: > /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQE/s+mVgu3ywdHdhM0RAik9AJkBf7xz5hI6JOlOgg+lr8UBo4oBjgCeNvTB > KuXeaKkmiYNokNwaiNFn94Y= > =DvDd > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:46:24 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFkOv10156; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:46:24 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADKcQ329902 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:26 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hADKcHI29855 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:17 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (turing-police.cc.vt.edu [128.173.14.107]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hADKcHv29848; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:17 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id hADKcGGn016289; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200311132038.hADKcGGn016289@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: Jerry James Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: Fun with buggy video card drivers In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:20:04 CST." From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-2033496432P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:16 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-2033496432P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:20:04 CST, Jerry James said: > Some users with nVidia GeForce 4 cards have reported this problem. It > appears to be a bug in the XFree86 nv driver. Installing the driver > available from www.nvidia.com reportedly fixes the problem. Been there, done that, seen the bug, and yes, the closed-source driver doesn't exhibit it. It bites other applications as well - the Enlightenment window manager would trip over it *all* the time (as in *every time* you enter/left a window - the cursor was almost NEVER right). Particularly interesting things happened if you happened to be moving the cursor fast enough that one mouse position update was "outside" the window, the next was "inside", and it never hit the window decoration pixels - it was possible to end up with some random cursor in reverse video. The problem seems to be a bad interaction between the new Xcursor code with the support for animated cursors, etc and the nv driver. It may be a generic problem with drivers that use software cursors, and work OK for hardware cursors, or something like that, I've not investigated. --==_Exmh_-2033496432P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/s+u4cC3lWbTT17ARAkSWAKDqwFeAMSC5aI90X4tvgFHufHbycwCfTERy sUWiMJA9NbF4jnY5huTKHZc= =xjvf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-2033496432P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:56:36 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFuav18514; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:56:36 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAF9BFi26652 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:11:15 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAF9Aw526565 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:10:58 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAF9Avv26561 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:10:57 -0500 Received: from pd9518bad.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.139.173] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AKwSG-0006Qx-FZ for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:10:56 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AKwUX-0009RT-Mz for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:13:17 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: XEmacs SUMOs have been pre-released From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi! I uploaded SUMO packages into the pre-release directory ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages. They might have been distributed to the mirror sites by now. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:57:43 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFvgv19434; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:57:42 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAFGOBY30728 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:24:11 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAFGO9Q30710 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:24:09 -0500 Received: from grendal.frinabulax.org (ky-morehdky-cmts1a-24-51-177-83.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.51.177.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAFGO9v30703 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:24:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.frinabulax.org [127.0.0.1]) by grendal.frinabulax.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAFGOTpo016448 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:24:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:24:29 -0500 (EST) From: robert delius royar Reply-To: robert delius royar To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Version Control Errors with make install Message-ID: Organization: An Apple OS X XEmacs missionary Priority: NEW Precedence: first-class MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Could someone else try compiling and installing the latest 21.5.b16 cvs of XEmacs with the following environment variable set VERSION_CONTROL=numbered to see whether the install fails? It appears as though the code run by make install (but not by make all) causes XEmacs to create versions of the files /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/auto-autoloads.el.~1~ /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/auto-autoloads.el.~2~ /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/auto-autoloads.el.~3~ /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/auto-autoloads.el.~4~ /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/finder-inf.el.~1~ /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/finder-inf.el.~2~ /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/finder-inf.el.~3~ /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/finder-inf.el.~4~ /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/mule/auto-autoloads.el.~1~ /Users/royar/src/xemacs/lisp/mule/auto-autoloads.el.~2~ in the src directory. When during the fourth iteration of the install process, XEmacs sees ~4~, it stops to ask (in batch mode) whether to delete old backups. Any answer leads to an assertion failure. I modified the install routine in my auto compile/install script to unset the environment variable, after first deleting all the backups from the most recent install. That fixed the problem. But I think that it should not be happening at all, or should be documented. Here is the routine from my script, that prevents the error: Install () { local SDIR=${PWD} local SVC=${VERSION_CONTROL} # if set the install script gets wacked out if [ ${SVC} ] ; then unset VERSION_CONTROL fi cd ${ParentCompile}/${XEmacsDir} make install if [ ${SVC} ] ; then set VERSION_CONTROL=${SVC} fi cd ${SDIR} return } From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:58:26 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFwHv19881; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:58:17 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAFJGJb04465 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:16:19 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAFJGHp04451 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:16:17 -0500 Received: from mail.roxen.com (godzilla.roxen.com [194.52.182.190]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAFJGGv04443 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:16:16 -0500 Received: by mail.roxen.com (Postfix, from userid 52) id D7AD09A07; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:16:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from lister.roxen.com (lister.roxen.com [194.52.182.147]) by mail.roxen.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F869A00; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:16:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from mast by lister.roxen.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AL5tz-0002Wl-00; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:16:11 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: bug-cc-mode@gnu.org, Colin Guthrie Subject: Re: Indentations when more than two /'s are used. Reply-To: bug-cc-mode@gnu.org From: Martin Stjernholm Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:16:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3FB34E85.70207@caravan-sitefinder.co.uk> (Colin Guthrie's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:27:33 +0000") Message-ID: <5by8uhzblx.fsf@lister.roxen.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/20.7 (gnu/linux) References: <3FB34E85.70207@caravan-sitefinder.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Colin Guthrie wrote: /.../ > Normal single line comments begin // but if you start one with /// (a > la doxygen) it messes up futher indentation. /.../ > int main() > { > /// This is a comments > int i; > > /// This is another comment > int b; > > /// This is another comment > int c; > } This is due to a bug in the XEmacs core, so I'm resending it to xemacs-beta@xemacs.org. More specifically, forward-comment doesn't work properly in the backward direction. To reproduce without CC Mode functions: Go to the beginning of any of the "int" tokens. Evaluate (forward-comment -17). It stops inside the preceding comment, between the first and second "/". Perhaps this is fixed now; I've reported comment skipping bugs like this earlier, at least. (Haven't got the cvs version running, so I haven't checked.) > IMPORTANT NOTICE > The information contained in this email and any attached files, > including replies and forwarded copies, are confidential and > intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged > or prohibited from disclosure and unauthorised use. > > If you are not the named addressee you may not use, copy or disclose > this information to any other person. /... blah blah .../ I gleefully ignore this bullshit and resend it anyway. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 10:59:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFx2v20680; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:59:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAFMqBJ12257 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:52:11 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAFMptw12191 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:51:55 -0500 Received: from mail.roxen.com (godzilla.roxen.com [194.52.182.190]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAFMptv12186 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:51:55 -0500 Received: by mail.roxen.com (Postfix, from userid 52) id 23F549A14; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:51:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from lister.roxen.com (lister.roxen.com [194.52.182.147]) by mail.roxen.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B55C99E4; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:51:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from mast by lister.roxen.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AL9Ge-0002wI-00; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:51:48 +0100 To: Enrico Scholz Cc: bug-cc-mode@gnu.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: CC Mode 5.30.7 (C); Errors when moving into '<...>' Reply-To: bug-cc-mode@gnu.org From: Martin Stjernholm Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:51:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200311140234.hAE2Ywkw013974@kosh.ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> (Enrico Scholz's message of "Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:34:58 +0100") Message-ID: <5bvfplz1mj.fsf@lister.roxen.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/20.7 (gnu/linux) References: <200311140234.hAE2Ywkw013974@kosh.ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Enrico Scholz wrote: > c++-mode seems to misinterpret statements like > > | if (c<0 || c>99) > > as some kind of template specification. /.../ I overlooked expressions like that when I made the template parsing heuristics, but I've now tuned them for it. 5.30.8 will be available shortly with the fix. Thank you. > E.g. when a file 'foo.cc' contains > > int main() > { > if (c<0 || c>99) {} > } > > I can reproduce it with: > > | $ xemacs -vanilla > | M-x load-librarycompletion > | select 'Options -> Syntax Highlighting -> In This Buffer' in the menu > | C-x C-f foo.cc > | press 'C-f' subsequently until the '0' will be reached (from 'c<0') > > Now, I get: > > | (1) (error/warning) Error in `pre-command-hook' (setting hook to nil): (error Containing expression ends prematurely) > > > The stack-trace is > > | Signaling: (error "Containing expression ends prematurely") > | scan-sexps(22 -1) > | symbol-under-point() > | symbol-under-or-before-point() > | use-completion-under-or-before-point() > | completion-before-command() This is however a problem in completion mode. I imagine the same thing can occur for legitimate templates. My guess is that the completion package doesn't cope with non-paren chars (i.e. "<" and ">") behaving as parens through syntax-table properties. 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 11:02:59 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHG2xv23114; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:02:59 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAG1Q1h02233 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:26:01 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAG1Ps802193 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:25:54 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (pool-68-236-28-164.phil.east.verizon.net [68.236.28.164]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAG1Prv02189 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:25:53 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAG1PrOO004558 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:25:53 -0500 Received: (from sharad@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hAG1PrBt004554; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:25:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:25:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200311160125.hAG1PrBt004554@localhost.localdomain> From: Sharad Gupta To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.14] XEmacs hangs when maximized X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! Xemacs hangs on me when I try to maximize the XEmacs window. All other applications work fine for me ... Any clues will be highly helpful ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux bugs.devel.redhat.com 2.4.21-2.ELsmp #1 SMP Wed Sep 17 15:00:55 EDT 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux ./configure 'i386-redhat-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--libdir=/usr/lib' '--mandir=/usr/share/man/man1' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--with-gpm=no' '--with-sound=native' '--with-pop' '--mail-locking=lockf' '--with-clash-detection' '--debug=yes' '--with-mule=yes' '--with-database=berkdb' '--with-ldap=yes' '--with-hesiod=no' '--with-canna=yes' '--with-wnn=yes' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-athena=3d' '--with-widgets=athena' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-scrollbars=lucid' '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with-msw=no' '--with-xfs=yes' '--pdump' XEmacs 21.4.14 "Reasonable Discussion" configured for `i386-redhat-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/build/320173-i386/BUILD/xemacs-21.4.14 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -g -pipe -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw3d - Athena library to link: Xaw3d Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for the WNN input method on Mule. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "lockf" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.14/lisp/build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.81 :type regular) (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.17 :type regular) (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.13 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.14 :type regular) (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) (time :version 1.13 :type regular) (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.66 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.24 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.09 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.11 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.11 :type regular) (sml-mode :version 0.09 :type regular) (slider :version 1.14 :type regular) (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.09 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular) (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular) (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.32 :type regular) (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular) (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .89 :type single-file) (pgg :version 1.03 :type regular) (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular) (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.17 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.15 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.25 :type regular) (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.62 :type regular) (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.11 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.1 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.14 :type regular) (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.1 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (efs :version 1.31 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.19 :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.12 :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.14 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.13 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.4 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.17 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (skk :version 1.23 :type regular) (mule-ucs :version 1.04 :type regular) (mule-base :version 1.43 :type regular) (lookup :version 1.13 :type regular) (locale :version 1.2 :type regular) (leim :version 1.21 :type regular) (latin-unity :version 1.07 :type regular) (egg-its :version 1.26 :type regular) (edict :version 1.15 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 mwheel font-lock cus-face un-define mule-uni zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads skk-autoloads mule-ucs-autoloads mule-base-autoloads lookup-autoloads locale-autoloads leim-autoloads latin-unity-autoloads egg-its-autoloads edict-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 canna-leim slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp postgresqlv7 postgresql CANNA file-coding wnn mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- button1 button1up M-x x e m TAB s e TAB BS BS b u TAB BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS r e p o TAB r t TAB x e m TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Making completion list... Loading mwheel...done Loading mwheel... Loading font-lock...done Loading cus-face...done Loading cus-face... Loading font-lock... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 11:12:21 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGCKv30373; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:12:20 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFARH16992 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:10:27 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFAK416912 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:10:20 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFAKv16908 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:10:20 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7L3nX05875 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:03:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA7L3Zj05810 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:03:35 -0500 Received: from dell3.ma.utexas.edu (dell3.ma.utexas.edu [146.6.139.124]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA7L3Yv05792 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:03:34 -0500 Received: from asp3.ma.utexas.edu (root@asp3.ma.utexas.edu [128.83.133.108]) by dell3.ma.utexas.edu (8.11.0.Beta3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id hA7L36m26067; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:03:06 -0600 Received: (from nooj@localhost) by asp3.ma.utexas.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id hA7L35n32461; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:03:05 -0600 From: Fred Nugen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <16300.2184.582457.619541@asp3.ma.utexas.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:03:04 -0600 (CST) To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Fatal error (11); Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Fred Nugen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hA7L3Yv05792 Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Outline: Problem Statement Recent Changes Version Information Gdb Stacktrace ########## PROBLEM STATEMENT This crash occurred repeatedly when running xemacs: nooj@SR-71:~/xscreensaver-4.14$ xemacs hacks/newlisa.c Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. [snip] Lisp backtrace follows: # bind (frame-being-created) make-frame(nil #) frame-initialize() # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) command-line() # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code " §" ... 1)))) # bind (error-data) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Segmentation fault nooj@SR-71:~/xscreensaver-4.14$ ########### RECENT SYSTEM CHANGES (in this order) ** Changed locale information `dpkg-reconfigure locale` to include only en_US* and es_US* locales. Previously, many other locales were selected, and some seemed broken. ** Installed deb file mplayer-fonts_3.1-0.0_all.deb: ftp://joe2.ma.utexas.edu/debian-utm/dists/local-pool/main/binary-i386/mplayer-fonts_3.1-0.0_all.deb ** Had a subsequent system lockup while running mplayer. Perhaps files have been corrupted. Don't know how to check. Please let me know what other useful diagnostic info I can provide, such as personalization files, kernel build, .deb file, etc. I will try to avoid fixing the problem for a few hours. ############# VERSION INFORMATION I can't run M-x describe-installation (because of the crash), nor can I find the Installation file (since I didn't build it myself). Perhaps you could add a "--describe-installation" command-line option. XEmacs was installed from the debian package(s) found here: http://www.ma.utexas.edu/cgi-pub/deb/packlink.sc?id=xemacs21 Best I can do: (output of `xemacs --version`) nooj@SR-71:~/xscreensaver-4.14$ xemacs --version Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/debian-startup... Loading 00debian... Loading /usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.14/lisp/mule/auto-autoloads... Loading site-start... Loading 00debian-vars... Loading 50a2ps... Loading a2ps-print... Loading 50auctex... Loading 50autoconf... Loading 50dpkg-dev... Loading 50gettext... Loading 50mgp... XEmacs 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" [Lucid] (i386-debian-linux, Mule) of Sat Sep 27 2003 on eeyore nooj@SR-71:~/xscreensaver-4.14$ ########### GDB STACKTRACE (!) #0 0x403dd561 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x080adb48 in fatal_error_signal () #2 0x403dd498 in __libc_sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0x081bbacf in xaw_create_label () #4 0x4013a315 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #5 0x4013a803 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #6 0x4013ac24 in _XtCreateWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #7 0x4013ae03 in XtCreateWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #8 0x081bebda in XawGaugeGetValue () #9 0x081b5b23 in lw_modify_all_widgets () #10 0x081b4fc2 in replace_widget_value_tree () #11 0x081b5d1d in lw_make_widget () #12 0x080cd06c in specifier_vars_of_toolbar () #13 0x080cd193 in x_initialize_frame_menubar () #14 0x0819955a in x_wm_set_variable_size () #15 0x08199917 in x_wm_set_variable_size () #16 0x08114bbe in Fmake_frame () #17 0x080b570e in Ffuncall () #18 0x0808f306 in funcall_compiled_function () #19 0x0808ef48 in funcall_compiled_function () #20 0x080b5646 in Ffuncall () #21 0x0808f306 in funcall_compiled_function () #22 0x0808ef48 in funcall_compiled_function () #23 0x080b5068 in Feval () #24 0x080b2711 in condition_case_1 () #25 0x080b2993 in condition_case_3 () #26 0x0808fe3b in execute_rare_opcode () #27 0x0808f1a3 in funcall_compiled_function () #28 0x0808ef48 in funcall_compiled_function () #29 0x080b5068 in Feval () #30 0x080b2711 in condition_case_1 () #31 0x0809912c in Freally_early_error_handler () #32 0x080b2369 in internal_catch () #33 0x08099232 in initial_command_loop () #34 0x080ae539 in xemacs_21_4_14_i386_debian_linux () #35 0x080af68b in main () ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #36 0x403c9da6 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 11:13:30 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGDQv31568; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:13:26 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFVO430271 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:31:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFVKZ30228 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:31:20 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFVJv30221 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:31:19 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAEv3916483 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:57:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAAEv0016467 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:57:00 -0500 Received: from is.rice.edu (is.rice.edu [128.42.42.24]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAAEv0v16463 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:57:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.is.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC8A418D4 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:56:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from is.rice.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (it.is.rice.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21443-05 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:56:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by is.rice.edu (Postfix, from userid 12077) id 7CD0F418C4; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:56:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by is.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9904DC88 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:56:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:56:56 -0600 (CST) From: "Brent M. Clements" To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Problem running on itanium 2 and redhat 2.1AW Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-20030314-p2 at is.rice.edu Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I get the following when trying to run xemacs 21.4.6 on an itanum 2 machine running redhat 2.1AW: The C and Lsip backtraces are below. Thanks-Brent Clements ****lisp backtrace**************** Lisp backtrace follows: # (unwind-protect ...) # (catch # ...) # (unwind-protect ...) valid-instantiator-p([cursor-font :data "xterm"] image) # bind (how-to-add tag-set locale value specifier) set-specifier(# fallback=((nil . ...)) 0x8a4> [cursor-font :data "xterm"] nil nil nil) # bind (how-to-add tag-set locale value property glyph) set-glyph-property(# fallback=(...) 0x8a4>0x8a3> image [cursor-font :data "xterm"] nil nil nil) # bind (how-to-add tag-set locale spec glyph) set-glyph-image(# fallback=(...) 0x8a4>0x8a3> [cursor-font :data "xterm"]) # bind (device) x-init-pointer-shape(#) # bind (device) x-init-device-faces(#) # bind (device) init-device-faces(#) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) make-device(x nil) # bind (display) make-x-device(nil) init-x-win() # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) command-line() # (unwind-protect ...) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Segmentation fault Here is the C backtrace: #0 0x00000000 in ?? () #1 0x40000000001f5270 in image_validate () #2 0x40000000002dd890 in call_validate_method () #3 0x40000000000d74b0 in call_with_suspended_errors_1 () #4 0x40000000000d52d0 in internal_catch () #5 0x40000000000d7ff0 in call_with_suspended_errors () #6 0x40000000002dda40 in check_valid_instantiator () #7 0x40000000002ddba0 in Fvalid_instantiator_p () #8 0x40000000000dd4e0 in Ffuncall () #9 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #10 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #11 0x40000000000dd990 in Ffuncall () #12 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #13 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #14 0x40000000000dd990 in Ffuncall () #15 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #16 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #17 0x40000000000dd990 in Ffuncall () #18 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #19 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #20 0x40000000000dd990 in Ffuncall () #21 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #22 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #23 0x40000000000dd990 in Ffuncall () #24 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #25 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #26 0x40000000000dd990 in Ffuncall () #27 0x40000000000d6420 in Fcall_with_condition_handler () #28 0x40000000000e0970 in call1_with_handler () #29 0x40000000000ae180 in call_critical_lisp_code () #30 0x40000000001a7fb0 in init_device_faces () #31 0x40000000000a83e0 in init_device_resources () #32 0x40000000000a9300 in Fmake_device () #33 0x40000000000dd530 in Ffuncall () #34 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #35 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #36 0x40000000000dd990 in Ffuncall () #37 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #38 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #39 0x40000000000dd990 in Ffuncall () #40 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #41 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #42 0x40000000000dd990 in Ffuncall () #43 0x4000000000079df0 in execute_optimized_program () #44 0x4000000000078f40 in funcall_compiled_function () #45 0x40000000000dca70 in Feval () #46 0x40000000000d5c10 in condition_case_1 () #47 0x4000000000093b00 in top_level_1 () #48 0x40000000000d52d0 in internal_catch () #49 0x4000000000093d80 in initial_command_loop () #50 0x40000000000cd2b0 in sort_args () #51 0x40000000001f5270 in image_validate () #52 0x2000000000cfc560 in __libc_start_main (main=Cannot access memory at address 0x60000fff7fffff98 ) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 Cannot access memory at address 0x60000fff7fffffe0 Brent Clements HPC Technology Specialist Information Technology Rice University From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 11:14:25 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGEOv32227; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:14:24 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFaal01750 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:36:36 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFaZY01736 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:36:35 -0500 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru (pluton.ispras.ru [195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAHFaYv01728 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:36:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 94408 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2003 15:13:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truba.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.41) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 17 Nov 2003 15:13:20 -0000 Received: from truba.ispras.ru (root@localhost) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAHFWFXV024820 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:32:15 +0300 Received: from nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (nord.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.175]) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAHFWF8Z024808 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:32:15 +0300 Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAHFfX732030 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:41:33 +0300 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [REQUEST] xemacs-users-ru list archive on XEmacs site displays non-ascii subjects in more readable fasion From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:36:26 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= XEmacs.org stores archives of xemacs-users-ru. Most articles on the list have their subjects in koi8-r. The subjects are displayed 'as is', without processing. Concider for exmaple the subject: XEmacs =?koi8-r?b?yQ==?= `coding' file variable It would be great if xemacs.org archives recognise and present rfc 2047 encoded headers in the specified encoding. An image is attached to the article that shows how the example subject should look like. 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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:15:51 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFjNi09077 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFjLT09045 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:21 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFjKv09019 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:45:20 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAHFjIpg010240; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:45:18 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAHFjHSp010238; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:45:17 +0100 To: Adrian Aichner Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] packages: Minor maintainability improvement for scheme.el References: From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:45:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "Sat, 08 Nov 2003 02:14:41 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: > BTW, why does imenu-syntax-alist not define word-constituent syntax > for the ! character? Perhaps because `!' is not a word constituent? Minirant: I *hate* modes that define non-alphanumeric symbol constituent characters as word constituents -- it totally breaks M-b and M-f, making them essentially equivalent to M-C-b and M-C-f when moving over symbols. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 11:16:21 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGGKv02013; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:16:20 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFnQ713051 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:49:26 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFnON13024 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:49:24 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFnOv13020 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:49:24 -0500 Received: from pd9e60380.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.230.3.128] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1ALlcx-000MnR-CX for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:49:23 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1ALlfI-0006eb-9s for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:51:48 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-10-18) References: <1068490120.31522.33.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Ville Skytt's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:48:40 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Ville Skyttä writes: > FYI: I have a python-modes sync with Python 2.3.2 in (slow) progress, > when committing that I will set AUTHOR_VERSION to 2.3.2. I've talked to Barry and Skip who represent python-mode@. They say they'd be able to keep the sources in sync. They don't want to follow xemacs-beta (too much traffic...). Do we have a way to split out messages and send them to python-mode (w/o resending them manually)? norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 11:17:00 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGGxv02596; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:16:59 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFth118004 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:55:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFtg617991 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:55:42 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFtgv17985 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:55:42 -0500 Received: from pd9e60380.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.230.3.128] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1ALlj3-000OcJ-I5 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:55:41 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1ALllO-0006f7-KG for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:58:06 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) References: From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Latchezar Dimitrov's message of "Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:46:33 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Latchezar Dimitrov" writes: > Thanks. Just to let you know, for some reason I cannot install > either through packages menu of xemacs or by the net installer > general-docs-1.01-pkg.tar.gz. The net installer simply says it > cannot be d/l'd. As you can guess I'm talking about xemacs for > windows. I've put the package back in place. You should be able to install it by now. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 11:17:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGH4v02664; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:17:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFumx18657 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:56:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHFukb18643 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:56:46 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHFukv18628 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:56:46 -0500 Received: from pd9e60380.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.230.3.128] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1ALlk5-000OlM-Mg for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:56:45 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1ALlmQ-0006fA-Lf for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:59:10 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: packages download dir(s) broken References: <1068836133.4884.29.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Ville Skytt's message of "Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:55:33 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Ville Skyttä writes: > (Apologies if this has already been reported, I'm experiencing some mail > problems) [...] Thanks for sending a copy of this off-list to me :-) norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 11:21:34 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGLWv06063; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:21:32 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHGJKe04479 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:19:20 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHGJJG04467 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:19:19 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGJIv04452 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:19:18 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAHGJHpg010304 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:19:17 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAHGJHLY010302; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:19:17 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs SUMOs have been pre-released References: From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:19:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:13:17 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Please note that text-modes "package" seems to contain htmlize 1.12, whereas 1.16 is the latest version. I assume the same is the case for the SUMO. The latest version of htmlize is available at . From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 11:36:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGa1v13160; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:36:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHGZt313133 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:35:55 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHGZgW13043 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:35:42 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHGZfv13020 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:35:42 -0500 Received: from pd9e60380.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.230.3.128] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1ALmLl-0004eE-9Y for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:35:41 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1ALmO6-0006jF-9x for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:38:06 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs SUMOs have been pre-released References: From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:19:17 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hrvoje Niksic writes: > Please note that text-modes "package" seems to contain htmlize 1.12, > whereas 1.16 is the latest version. I assume the same is the case for > the SUMO. > > The latest version of htmlize is available at > . Thanks for the heads up, Hrvoje. I've seen your announcement today. I'm going to sync it during the next couple of days. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 12:27:15 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHHR6v04039; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:27:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHHQnO03900 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:26:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHHQll03882 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:26:47 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHHQjv03871 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:26:46 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAHHQhpg010491 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:44 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAHHQhWQ010489; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:43 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs SUMOs have been pre-released References: From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:38:06 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Norbert Koch writes: > Hrvoje Niksic writes: > >> Please note that text-modes "package" seems to contain htmlize 1.12, >> whereas 1.16 is the latest version. I assume the same is the case for >> the SUMO. >> >> The latest version of htmlize is available at >> . > > Thanks for the heads up, Hrvoje. > > I've seen your announcement today. Actually, the 1.16 version has been available weeks now. Since there is currently no mailing list for htmlize, the only way to know of a new version is to check the advertised URL. I posted 1.16 to gnu.emacs.sources because many people were under the impression that 1.4 (last posted there) was the last available version and never thought to check the URL. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 14:00:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHJ02v14509; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:00:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHIxLR14105 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:59:21 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHIxJt14067 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:59:19 -0500 Received: from mail1.kens.com (mail1.kens.com [209.70.202.39]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHIxIv14050 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:59:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 15686 invoked by uid 1002); 17 Nov 2003 18:59:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zaphod.khaberz.net) (217.81.149.91) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Nov 2003 18:59:18 -0000 Received: by zaphod.khaberz.net (Postfix, from userid 1010) id 366709310E; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:01:00 +0100 (CET) X-Face: 1~;w82CpPnIG/?[Fuw*ZU@\7'8#Q,W@zah>&cxgC.HDFYX5WRG2PyDz8R4r}.^|IP6d3"cJ-/Dn2H}|77A7m`LSyE>> Organization: private site Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:00:59 +0100 Message-ID: <7xn0au4y6s.fsf@zaphod.khaberz.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , After updating from 21.5.9 to the latest CVS, I have a fairly annoying white, inconsistent, thin border around my XEmacs-frame. See at http://buug.mind.de/~khaberz/xemacsborder.png C-l will consistently get rid of it until I do something in the frame again. PLease let me know if I can provide more info. Thanks! ===================== uname -a: FreeBSD zaphod.khaberz.net 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 1 18:11:56 CET 2003 khaberz@zaphod.khaberz.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ZAPHOD i386 ./configure '--error-checking=none' '--with-toolbars=no' '--with-mule=yes' '--prefix=/usr/local/xem acs' XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac" configured for `i386-unknown-freebsd4.9'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/home/khaberz/sources/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local/xemacs Runtime library search path: /usr/X11R6/lib Operating system description file: `s/freebsd.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-comp are -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -Wpointer-arith -g -O3 Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes Linking with `-z nocombreloc'. - Consider configuring with --pdump. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling without PNG image support. WARNING: You should strongly consider installing the PNG libraries. WARNING: Otherwise certain images and glyphs may not display. WARNING: (a copy may be found in ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/aux) WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using Motif to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "flock" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 17:54:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHMs1v31277; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:54:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHMrnv31138 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:53:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHMrmi31117 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:53:48 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHMrjv31092; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:53:45 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ALsFc-0004kB-00; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:53:44 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (rPG5sOZXweyXddPGd++wZQx0WI0mx56-cr2y1B2ml1ZDGL1G9OqLsd@[80.128.57.144]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1ALsFb-1FN4Bk0; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:53:43 +0100 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: Jerry James , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: Fun with buggy video card drivers X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <200311132038.hADKcGGn016289@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:54:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200311132038.hADKcGGn016289@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (Valdis Kletnieks's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:16 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: rPG5sOZXweyXddPGd++wZQx0WI0mx56-cr2y1B2ml1ZDGL1G9OqLsd X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jerry, Valdis, could you please send in a patch? Should this only go into PROBLEMS? What about xemacs-faq.texi? -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 21:39:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI2d1v00626; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:39:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI2cpS00566 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:38:51 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI2cmU00550 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:38:48 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI2cWv00489; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:38:32 -0500 Received: from sfwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ALvl9-0000ET-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:38:31 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (SaJu8iZcZegZ-q57V-1w--0W1imZ5tHflnFKjofDZ6ZFqS+64yaYQ4@[80.128.57.144]) by afwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1ALvku-1qh2kC0; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:38:16 +0100 To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: Adrian Aichner , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] packages: Minor maintainability improvement for scheme.el X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:38:42 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: SaJu8iZcZegZ-q57V-1w--0W1imZ5tHflnFKjofDZ6ZFqS+64yaYQ4 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> Adrian Aichner writes: >> BTW, why does imenu-syntax-alist not define word-constituent syntax >> for the ! character? Hrvoje> Perhaps because `!' is not a word constituent? Hrvoje> Minirant: I *hate* modes that define non-alphanumeric symbol Hrvoje> constituent characters as word constituents -- it totally breaks M-b Hrvoje> and M-f, making them essentially equivalent to M-C-b and M-C-f when Hrvoje> moving over symbols. Hi Hrvoje, are you suggesting `!' should be removed from the string initializing dsssl-font-lock-keywords? http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/projects/scheme/documentation/scheme_2.html#SEC21 suggests that `!' should be quite common in MIT Scheme at least: 1.3.5 Naming Conventions A predicate is a procedure that always returns a boolean value (#t or #f). By convention, predicates usually have names that end in `?'. A mutation procedure is a procedure that alters a data structure. By convention, mutation procedures usually have names that end in `!'. I'd suggest keeping it and whatever we do to keep 'imenu-syntax-alist in sync: (set (make-local-variable 'imenu-syntax-alist) '(("+-*/.<>=?$%_&~^:" . "w"))) I'd suggest to move that word constituent string into a defconst and using it in dsssl-font-lock-keywords and 'imenu-syntax-alist. Sound good? -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 17 23:17:17 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI4H5v01193; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:17:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI4GT301025 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:16:29 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI4GD900948 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:16:13 -0500 Received: from juhp.dyndns.org (YahooBB219055112042.bbtec.net [219.55.112.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI4GCv00932 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:16:13 -0500 Received: from smile.house (smile.house [192.168.0.5]) by juhp.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951483B8003 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:16:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from smile.house (localhost.house [127.0.0.1]) by smile.house (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F603CC0F4 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:16:09 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:16:09 +0900 Message-ID: From: Jens Petersen To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.6 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 14) (Reasonable Discussion) (i386-redhat-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > The following XEmacs packages have just been released. Most of the > packages have been updated due to maintenance issues. > > I'm happy to introduce a new package riece a successor to liece, ie an > IRC client you can use from your favourite editor. Please note that > liece is now marked as deprecated and will be removed sometime in the > future. > I'll create new SUMO packages, too. Great, thanks. > Updated or New Packages: > ======================= > Sun-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > ada-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.27 > apel-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 10.2 > bbdb-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.34 > build-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02 > c-support-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > calc-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02fX3 > calendar-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > cc-mode-1.41-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.30.7 > clearcase-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > cookie-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver > crisp-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.34 > debug-1.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver [snip] I think it is great that you now list the upstream version. Perhaps "No-Upstream-Ver" is a little verbose too though. How about writing instead "no upstream version" in this case or "n/a" (not available) or "none" say? I think that would make the list easier to read. :) Thanks, Jens From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 00:19:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI5J3v22121; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:19:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI5IWv21962 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:18:32 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI5ITa21936 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:18:29 -0500 Received: from juhp.dyndns.org (YahooBB219055112042.bbtec.net [219.55.112.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI5ISv21927 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:18:28 -0500 Received: from smile.house (smile.house [192.168.0.5]) by juhp.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFAE3B8003 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:18:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from smile.house (localhost.house [127.0.0.1]) by smile.house (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52B1CC0F4 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:18:25 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:18:25 +0900 Message-ID: From: Jens Petersen To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug 21.4.14] hanging on window maximization In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.6 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 14) (Reasonable Discussion) (i386-redhat-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "juhp" == Jens Petersen writes: juhp> Has anyone else experienced the problem that juhp> xemacs-21.4.14 (and 21.4.13) hang/loop whenever an juhp> XEmacs window is maximized in X? I see this with juhp> the xemacs in Fedora Core 1 at least (on juhp> Linux/ix86). It doesn't appear to happen with juhp> 21.4.12. Just to follow up on this: afaict it only seems to happen with Metacity in Gnome and not with KDE. I can reproduce with a vanilla tarball build, so it is not something specific to the Red Hat xemacs package. -Jens From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 01:49:37 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI6m1v02482; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:48:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI6lLo02346 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:47:21 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI6lKK02337 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:47:20 -0500 Received: from world1.sdm.de (world1.sdm.de [192.76.162.229]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI6lJv02331 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:47:19 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=world1.sdm.de) (helo=world1.sdm.de) by world1.sdm.de (MTA) via esmtp for id 1ALzdf-00083k-U9; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:47:03 +0100 Received: from mucns1.muc.sdm.de ([193.102.180.22]) (helo=mucns1.muc.sdm.de) by world1.sdm.de (MTA) via esmtp for id 1ALzdf-00083f-Qn; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:47:03 +0100 Received: by mucns1.muc.sdm.de (MTA) via esmtp for from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sdmexch1.muc.sdm.de) id 1ALzdf-0005SY-PC; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:47:03 +0100 Received: by sdmexch1.muc.sdm.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:47:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Berndl, Klaus" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [C] Sync ECB with current upstream 2.11 - see NEWS for details Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:47:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3AD9F.C5EE25F0" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_44,HTML_60_70, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This message is in MIME format. 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    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AD9F.C5EE25F0-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 03:21:26 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI8L1v26604; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:21:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI8Ktu26569 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:20:55 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI8Kl226537 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:20:47 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI8Kjv26523; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:20:45 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AM16K-0007Vb-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:20:44 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (E690wOZlrea5DeDopFpB0ri32stuWQUmx4gn1LTQDkY5Ab7YTyVZQ7@[217.89.15.30]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AM16K-126JrE0; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:20:44 +0100 To: Jens Petersen Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:21:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Jens Petersen's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:16:09 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: E690wOZlrea5DeDopFpB0ri32stuWQUmx4gn1LTQDkY5Ab7YTyVZQ7 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jens" == Jens Petersen writes: >> debug-1.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: No-Upstream-Ver Jens> [snip] Jens> I think it is great that you now list the upstream version. Jens> Perhaps "No-Upstream-Ver" is a little verbose too though. Hi Norbert, Jens, I think No-Upstream-Ver is just plain ugly. It's a huge word, yet it's still is truncated at the end. It fails at both goals: being descriptive or being terse. The lisp way, of cource, would be upstream version: nil but that might seem user-unfriendly to some :-) I like "none" or a small set of words if we need to distinguish between none, unknown, unavailable, useless and what have you. Jens> How about writing instead "no upstream version" in this Jens> case or "n/a" (not available) or "none" say? I think that Jens> would make the list easier to read. :) Jens> Thanks, Jens -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 03:49:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI8n0v01974; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:49:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI8m2V01749 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:48:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI8m1c01737 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:48:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI8m1v01733 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:48:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI8l3R01488 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:47:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAI8kuH01452 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:46:56 -0500 Received: from juhp.dyndns.org (YahooBB219055112042.bbtec.net [219.55.112.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAI8ktv01447 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:46:55 -0500 Received: from smile.house (smile.house [192.168.0.5]) by juhp.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92693B8003; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:46:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from smile.house (localhost.house [127.0.0.1]) by smile.house (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF8ACC0F4; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:46:52 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:46:52 +0900 Message-ID: From: Jens Petersen To: "Brent M. Clements" Cc: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Problem running on itanium 2 and redhat 2.1AW In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.6 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 14) (Reasonable Discussion) (i386-redhat-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "BMC" == Brent M Clements writes: BMC> I get the following when trying to run xemacs BMC> 21.4.6 on an itanum 2 machine running redhat 2.1AW: BMC> The C and Lsip backtraces are below. Unfortunately this is a RHEL 2.1 specific problem. Please see: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=81058 Hopefully there will be an update before too long. Jens From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 07:46:30 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAICkBv10104; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:46:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAICjPu09572 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:45:25 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAICj7i09194 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:45:07 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAICj6v09159 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:45:07 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AM5Dy-0000W3-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:44:54 +0900 To: Fred Nugen Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Fatal error (11); Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font References: <16300.2184.582457.619541@asp3.ma.utexas.edu> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:44:54 +0900 In-Reply-To: <16300.2184.582457.619541@asp3.ma.utexas.edu> (Fred Nugen's message of "Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:03:04 -0600 (CST)") Message-ID: <87wu9xalrt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Fred" == Fred Nugen writes: Fred> Perhaps you could add a "--describe-installation" Fred> command-line option. xemacs -batch -f describe-installation `xemacs -nw' probably also will work, on the console or in a *Term. Fred> nooj@SR-71:~/xscreensaver-4.14$ xemacs hacks/newlisa.c Fred> Warning: Cannot convert string \ Fred> "-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" \ Fred> to type FontStruct Fred> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Fred> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font XEmacs is saying it found no usable fonts on your system. I have to suspect something in the postinst for mplayer-fonts. This would also explain an mplayer lockup, as X programs do not generally respond well to lack of fonts. In short, a problem on your system. If you can start an xterm, then maybe it's something to do with XEmacs, but I sorta doubt it. (XEmacs probably could respond to this more gracefully, but historically if you got your system into a state where this message occurred you were in really big trouble that had nothing to do with XEmacs.) What fontpath does `xset q' display? Does xlsfonts -fn '-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*' give any output? (It should give scores or hundreds of lines, but I'm only interested in the difference between "zero" and "more than zero") If it does, try xfontsel -pattern '-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*' and see if you can get any of them to display. I bet xfontsel also locks. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 07:54:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAICs1v12238; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:54:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAICr1D11998 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:53:01 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAICqlW11913 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:52:47 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAICqkv11908 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:52:46 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AM5L2-0000WI-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:52:12 +0900 To: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [REQUEST] xemacs-users-ru list archive on XEmacs site displays non-ascii subjects in more readable fasion References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:52:12 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Nickolay Pakoulin's message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:36:26 +0300") Message-ID: <87smklalfn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nickolay" == Nickolay Pakoulin writes: Nickolay> It would be great if xemacs.org archives recognise and Nickolay> present rfc 2047 encoded headers in the specified Nickolay> encoding. An image is attached to the article that Nickolay> shows how the example subject should look like. Yeah, it would, but it's not going to happen unless somebody else is willing to do the necessary messing around with the programs that handle the archives. AFAIK those programs go back six or seven years, and I'm not willing to bet they'll be easily patched to handle this. If you or somebody else wants to work on it, I'll get you the sources (it's a perl script called WILMA). Bonus points if it handles Japanese (the other language that has its own mailing list). :-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 08:00:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAID02v13839; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:00:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAICxYr13696 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:59:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAICxW113681 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:59:32 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAICxWv13668 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:59:32 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AM5S4-0000XZ-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:59:28 +0900 To: Kai Haberzettl Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: redisplay-problem - border around frame References: <7xn0au4y6s.fsf@zaphod.khaberz.net> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:59:28 +0900 In-Reply-To: <7xn0au4y6s.fsf@zaphod.khaberz.net> (Kai Haberzettl's message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:00:59 +0100") Message-ID: <87oev9al3j.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Kai" == Kai Haberzettl writes: Kai> After updating from 21.5.9 to the latest CVS, I have a fairly Kai> annoying white, inconsistent, thin border around my Kai> XEmacs-frame. This has been reported before, I believe in the 21.4 series. IIRC it's a problem in the X server or libraries. I'd suggest a search in the xemacs-beta archives. (Maybe somebody else will pick up the thread, but it's going to be several days before I can myself.) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 08:13:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIDD1v17966; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:13:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIDCV617863 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:12:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIDCIq17791 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:12:18 -0500 Received: from mail1.kens.com (mail1.kens.com [209.70.202.39]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIDCHv17785 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:12:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 19693 invoked by uid 1002); 18 Nov 2003 13:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dhcp-15-197-230-209.bbn.hp.com) (kai@khaberz.net@192.6.76.68) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Nov 2003 13:12:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:12:13 +0100 From: Kai Haberzettl To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: redisplay-problem - border around frame Message-ID: <17688444.1069164733@dhcp-15-197-230-209.bbn.hp.com> In-Reply-To: <87oev9al3j.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <7xn0au4y6s.fsf@zaphod.khaberz.net> <87oev9al3j.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > Kai> After updating from 21.5.9 to the latest CVS, I have a fairly > Kai> annoying white, inconsistent, thin border around my > Kai> XEmacs-frame. > > This has been reported before, I believe in the 21.4 series. > > IIRC it's a problem in the X server or libraries. I'd suggest a > search in the xemacs-beta archives. (Maybe somebody else will pick up > the thread, but it's going to be several days before I can myself.) Well, I myself have reported this more than a year ago. The only suggestion I received back then was related to the compiler version and that turned out not to be the problem. The only solution back then was to cvs back down a few releases (to 21.5.9). Now I tried again and the problem is still there. I tried searching the archives but didn't see another reference to my problem. Let me know if I can do anything to help figure this one out. Thanks, Kai From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 09:43:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIEh1v12145; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:43:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIEgDB11925 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:42:13 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIEfwZ11849 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:41:58 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIEfvv11845 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:41:57 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12946; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:41:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com From: Jake Colman Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:41:56 -0500 Message-ID: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , First, why does XEmacs have its own, very different, version of font-lock? Are our internals so incompatible that implementation of font-lock has to be different? I'm not implying that that's not be the case; I'm simply curious about the history over here. My real issue is that FSF font-lock has a function called font-lock-add-keywords that is missing from our implementation. There is a comment in our implementation that says the following: ;;; FSF has here: ;; support for add-keywords, global-font-lock-mode and ;; font-lock-support-mode (unified support for various *-lock modes). I'd really like to use this function and this comment does not quite do it for me. Can anyone tell me why it's missing? Also, can anyone tell me how to do the equivalent using XEmacs' font-lock? I'd like to (easily) add a new C++ keyword to those that are already recognized for fontification. Thanks! -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 10:06:21 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIF6Bv18718; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:06:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIF5MY18567 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:05:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIF57n18485 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:05:07 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIF56v18478 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:05:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAIF50pg011430 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:05:01 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAIF4w9r011428; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:04:58 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs References: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:04:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> (Jake Colman's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:41:56 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jake Colman writes: > First, why does XEmacs have its own, very different, version of > font-lock? This is, to me, a strange question. XEmacs has had font-lock from *very* long ago (possibly before FSF), and until recently it was not at all clear which version was "better". It's sort of like asking why we have a different version of isearch or a different version of `files.el'. Even if we painstakingly imported the latest FSF version, who is to guarantee that they won't change it as soon as they add another feature to their internals? This has happened many times in the past, and it's a losing game because their more recent version will always be considered "latest and greatest". The "synching" process is in fact so ardous that it's often easier to maintain a feature-by-feature equivalent version. Plus, synching forces us to only use the compatible API's, even where our API's are better. Under so rigorous constraints it would be wiser to just stop using XEmacs altogether. > I'd really like to use this function and this comment does not quite > do it for me. Can anyone tell me why it's missing? I assume that, so far, noone has needed it. Maybe it wouldn't be that hard to add? > Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer Go ahead and tinker! :-) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 10:34:32 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIFX2v26708; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:33:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIFWJk26334 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:32:19 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIFW2s26255 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:32:02 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIFW2v26249 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:32:02 -0500 Received: from p50830f65.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.15.101] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AM7ph-000LfH-Gc for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:32:01 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AM7s3-000EgI-EL for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:34:27 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) References: From: Norbert Koch Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:32:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:21:15 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO MIME-Version: 1.0 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: Hi! > I like "none" or a small set of words if we need to distinguish between > none, Point taken. I'll change it into none in the output. I won't change it in the Makefiles or touch the default returned by the make process. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 11:12:41 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIGBIv04325; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:11:18 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIG2MK02419 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:02:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIG2At02376 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:02:10 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIFsZv32315; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:54:35 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIFrE432009 for xemacs-announce-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:53:14 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIFr8V31969 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:53:08 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIFr6v31942 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:53:07 -0500 Received: from p50830f65.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.15.101] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AM89s-000Px7-5Z for xemacs-announce@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:52:52 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AM8CE-000EhY-0V for xemacs-announce@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:55:18 +0100 To: xemacs-announce@xemacs.org Subject: XEmacs SUMOs have been released From: Norbert Koch Mail-Followup-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Old-X-XEmacs-List: announce X-BeenThere: xemacs-announce@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello! I have just released new SUMOs in the XEmacs packages directory ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/xemacs/packages/. Updated or New Packages Since the Last Sumo: =========================================== Sun-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none ada-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.27 apel-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 10.2 bbdb-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.34 build-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02 c-support-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none calc-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.02fX3 calendar-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none cc-mode-1.41-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.30.7 clearcase-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none cookie-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none crisp-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.34 debug-1.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none dired-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.11 docbookide-0.07-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1 ecb-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.96 ecrypto-0.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0 edebug-1.20-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none edict-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.9.9 ediff-1.49-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.75 edit-utils-2.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none edt-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none efs-1.32-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.22 egg-its-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none eieio-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.17 elib-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0 emerge-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none eshell-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.4.1 ess-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.1.21 eterm-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none eudc-1.39-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.32 footnote-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.18x forms-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.37 fortran-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none frame-icon-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none fsf-compat-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none games-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.04 general-docs-1.01-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none gnats-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.101 gnus-1.73-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.10.2 haskell-mode-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.44 hm--html-menus-1.23-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.9 hyperbole-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.18 ibuffer-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none idlwave-1.31-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.1 igrep-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.95 ilisp-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.12.0 ispell-1.26-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.3 jde-1.46-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.3.2 latin-unity-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.08 latin-unity-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.09 leim-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none locale-1.21-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none lookup-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0 mail-lib-1.63-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none mailcrypt-2.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.5.8 mew-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.94.2 mh-e-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.4.2 mine-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.9 misc-games-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none mmm-mode-1.01-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.4.7 mule-base-1.44-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none mule-ucs-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.84 net-utils-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none ocaml-0.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.06 oo-browser-1.04-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.08 os-utils-1.34-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none pc-1.26-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none pcl-cvs-1.65-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: R-2_9_9 pcomplete-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.1.6 perl-modes-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none pgg-1.04-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1 prog-modes-1.91-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none ps-print-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 6.5.6 psgml-dtds-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none python-modes-1.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none reftex-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.21 riece-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1.5 rmail-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none ruby-modes-1.02-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.6.8 sasl-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.14.4 scheme-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none semantic-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.4.2 sgml-1.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none sh-script-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0e sieve-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none slider-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.3x1 sml-mode-0.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.9.5 sounds-au-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none sounds-wav-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none speedbar-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.14beta4 strokes-1.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none supercite-1.20-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.55x3 texinfo-1.25-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none text-modes-1.71-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none textools-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none time-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.17 tm-1.37-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none tooltalk-1.15-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none tpu-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.2X vc-1.38-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none vc-cc-1.22-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none vhdl-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.31.20 view-process-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.4 viper-1.37-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.09 vm-7.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.17 w3-1.29-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.0pre47 x-symbol-1.07-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.5.1 xemacs-base-1.82-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none xemacs-devel-1.59-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 21.4 xemacs-devel-1.60-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none xslide-1.09-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.2.2 zenirc-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.112 Detailed Changes: ================ - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/build ----- 2003-10-19 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.13 released. 2003-10-18 Adrian Aichner * build-report.el: Update copyright years. * build-report.el (build-report-keep-regexp): Update build-report.el for test harness output. * build-report.el (build-report-delete-regexp): Ditto. * build-report.el (build-report-installation-data): Handle builds of non-beta versions. * build-report.el (build-report-version-file-data): Ditto. 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.12 released. 2003-09-30 Jerry James * build.el (build): Minor typo correction. 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.11 released. 2003-10-12 Adrian Aichner * build.texi: Add dircategory Emacs. * build.texi (Top): Move from incorrect use of @var to correct use of @code. * build.texi (Build Overview): Ditto. * build.texi (Build Installation): Ditto. * build.texi (Build XEmacs From CVS): Ditto. * build.texi (Build XEmacs From Tarballs): Ditto. * build.texi (Build XEmacs With GNU Tools): Ditto. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/clearcase ----- 2003-10-19 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.07 released. 2003-10-18 Adrian Aichner * clearcase.el: Sync with upstream version /main/laptop/116. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/docbookide ----- 2003-10-28 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 0.07 released. 2003-10-26 Ville Skyttä * dbide-font.el (docbook-font-lock-keywords): Avoid unnecessary regexp-opt calls. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ediff ----- 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.48 released. 2003-10-12 Michael Kifer * ediff-mult.el (ediff-filegroup-action): use ediff-default-filtering-regexp. * ediff-util.el (ediff-recenter): don't call ediff-restore-highlighting twice. (ediff-select-difference): set current difference. (ediff-unselect-and-select-difference): added comment. * ediff.el (ediff-directories,ediff-directory-revisions, ediff-directories3,ediff-merge-directories, ediff-merge-directories-with-ancestor,ediff-merge-directory-revisions, ediff-merge-directory-revisions-with-ancestor): use ediff-default-filtering-regexp. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/edit-utils ----- 2003-10-20 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 2.09 released. 2003-10-20 Jake Colman * Makefile (ELCS): new library highline.el * edit-utils.texi: * edit-utils.texi (Top): * edit-utils.texi (paren): * edit-utils.texi (shell-font): * edit-utils.texi (highline): * edit-utils.texi (highline-keys): * edit-utils.texi (highline-hooks): * edit-utils.texi (highline-options): * package-info.in: 2003-10-17 Andrew W. Nosenko * func-menu.el: Add autoconf mode support. (fume-function-name-regexp-autoconf): New variable. (fume-function-name-regexp-alist): Use it. 2003-10-16 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 2.08 released. 2003-10-15 Jake Colman * Makefile (ELCS): new library narrow-stack.el * edit-utils.texi (Top): * edit-utils.texi (Align Usage): * edit-utils.texi (allout): * edit-utils.texi (narrow-stack): documentation for new library - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ess/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-10 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.06 released. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/gnus ----- 2003-10-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.73 released. 2003-10-12 Adrian Aichner * texi/gnus.texi: General typo and whitespace fixes from gnus CVS, carefully avoiding syncing documentation of new features. * texi/gnus.texi (Mail Source Specifiers): uref fixes. 2003-10-10 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.72 released. 2003-10-09 Steve Youngs * Makefile (MAINTAINER): Update my email address. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/hm--html-menus ----- 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.22 released. 2003-09-30 Norbert Koch * hm--html-menu.el: Use menu functionality only if it's bound. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ispell ----- 2003-11-02 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.26 released. 2003-11-01 Ville Skyttä * Makefile (AUTHOR_VERSION): This is 3.3. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/jde ----- 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.46 released. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from mule-packages/latin-unity/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-09 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.09 released. 2003-11-09 Steve Youngs * Makefile (EXTRA_SOURCES): Add `latin-unity-tables.el'. (GENERATED_ELCS): Removed, obsolete. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/mmm-mode ----- 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.01 released. 2003-10-19 Ville Skyttä * mmm-compat.el (mmm-regexp-opt): Alias to regexp-opt according to new, synced regexp-opt interface. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/os-utils ----- 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.33 released. 2003-10-03 Ilya N. Golubev * background.el (background-search-job-space): Fix byte-compiler warning. (background): Fix (usually not happening) direct `background-get-job-name-simple' call. * rlogin.el (rlogin-parse-words): Fix (supposed) match-data restoring. 2003-10-03 Ilya N. Golubev * rlogin.el (rlogin): Remove unneeded duplication of process marker setting done inside `comint-exec'. 2003-10-03 Ilya N. Golubev * background.el (background): Use `insert-before-markers' for text to output, like `comint-output-filter' does. 2003-09-22 Steve Youngs * Makefile (EXPLICIT_DOCS): Removed. (STANDARD_DOCS): Use this instead. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/prog-modes ----- 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.91 released. 2003-10-19 Ville Skyttä * verilog-mode.el: Remove regexp-opt workarounds, defalias verilog-regexp-opt to regexp-opt instead. * php-mode.el (php-font-lock-keywords-3): Remove obsolete regexp-opt comment. 2003-10-16 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.90 released. 2003-10-15 Peter Osterlund * p4.el: Sync with upstream version. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/riece ----- 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.12 released. 2003-10-27 Daiki Ueno * riece-identity.el: * riece-xemacs.el: Fix build for 21.1. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/scheme ----- 2003-10-28 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.14 released. 2003-10-26 Ville Skyttä * scheme.el: Partial sync with GNU Emacs 21.3 (mostly DSSSL). Add auto-mode-alist autoload cookie for *.dsl, *.dsssl. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/text-modes/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-13 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.71 released. 2003-11-12 Adrian Aichner * folding.el: Typo fixes for docstrings and comments. 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.70 released. 2003-10-19 Ville Skyttä * desktop-entry-mode.el (desktop-entry-keywords): Change according to new, synced regexp-opt interface. (desktop-entry-mode-version): 0.92. 2003-10-19 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.69 released. * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream version 1.12. 2003-10-16 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.68 released. * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream version 1.4. 2003-10-15 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.67 released. * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream. 2003-10-09 Ville Skyttä * apache-mode.el (apache-font-lock-keywords): Reorganize mod_perl keywords, add mod_perl 2 keywords. 2003-10-13 Ville Skyttä * desktop-entry-mode.el (desktop-entry-font-lock-keywords): Highlight comments, fix keyword highlight. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/x-symbol ----- 2003-10-26 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.07 released. 2003-10-21 Adrian Aichner * man/x-symbol.texi (Wishlist Fonts): Fix broken listdevel usage in uref. 2003-10-10 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.06 released. 2003-10-09 Steve Youngs * Makefile (MAINTAINER): Update my email address. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/xemacs-base ----- 2003-10-29 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.82 released. 2003-10-20 Ville Skyttä * regexp-opt.el: API + returned regexp compatibility sync with GNU Emacs 21.3. The major backwards-incompatible change is that the shy/non-shy argument has been dropped from `regexp-opt', `regexp-opt-depth' and `regexp-opt-group'. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/xemacs-devel ----- 2003-10-08 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.59 released. 2003-03-07 David A. Panariti * eldoc.el (eldoc-get-doc): Factored document string extraction code out of `eldoc-print-current-symbol-info'. (eldoc-print-current-symbol-info): Calls `eldoc-get-doc' to get doc to print. (eldoc-doc): New function. Gets doc for current symbol and displays it in the echo area. (eldoc-insert-elisp-func-template): New function. Converts doc from `eldoc-get-doc' into a function template and inserts it at point. - ----- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/xslide ----- 2003-10-28 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.09 released. 2003-10-26 Ville Skyttä * xslide-font.el (xsl-font-lock-keywords): Avoid unnecessary regexp-opt calls. Installing Sumo Packages: ======================== 1) Download the SUMO packages from ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/xemacs/packages/ or any of its mirrors. 2) Unpack to /lib/xemacs/ [1] e.g - cd /usr/local/lib/xemacs RET - tar zxvf /path/to/xemacs-sumo.tar.gz RET 3) Restart XEmacs. Norbert Koch, XEmacs Package Release Manager. Footnotes: [1] 'emacs-roots' defaults to '/usr/local/'. C-h v emacs-roots RET to check. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/ukDSgu3ywdHdhM0RAhtPAJ9KQUvJZmtwJCa5E/KvTN1flFd1gQCg479T mOdQtJI6apk8xkDbJZCivNQ= =L+pt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 12:21:48 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIHK1v27353; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:20:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIHJD727121 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:19:13 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIHIux27024 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:18:56 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIHIsv27010 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:18:54 -0500 Received: from p50830f65.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.15.101] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AM9V7-000DN9-Cu for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:18:53 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AM9XT-000FEq-8O for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:21:19 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-18-18) From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== cc-mode-1.42-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.30.8 ecb-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.11 hyperbole-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.18 mh-e-1.28-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.4.2 net-utils-1.34-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none text-modes-1.72-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none Hyperbole has gone out of sync wrt the package database management. Detailed Changes: ================ - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/cc-mode/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.42 released. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * Patch release 5.30.8. * cc-engine.el (c-guess-continued-construct, c-guess-basic-syntax): Check a little more carefully if it's a function declaration when an unknown construct followed by a block is found inside a statement context. This avoids macros followed by blocks to be taken as function declarations. (c-guess-continued-construct): Changed the analysis of a statement continuation with a brace open to `substatement-block', for consistency with recognized statements. (c-add-stmt-syntax): Don't continue to the surrounding sexp if the start is in a position so that `c-beginning-of-statement-1' jumped to the beginning of the same statement. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-fonts.el, cc-engine.el (c-forward-<>-arglist-recur): Don't accept binary operators in the arglist if we're in a function call context, i.e. if `c-restricted-<>-arglists' is set. That avoids template recognition in cases like "if (a < b || c > d)". (c-restricted-<>-arglists): New more appropriate name for `c-disallow-comma-in-<>-arglists'. Accessing functions updated for the variable name change. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-engine.el (c-syntactic-re-search-forward): Fix bug where the match data could get clobbered if NOT-INSIDE-TOKEN is used. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-engine.el (c-beginning-of-statement-1): Don't allow parens in labels. (c-backward-to-decl-anchor): Use `c-beginning-of-statement-1' instead of duplicating parts of it. This fixes bogus label recognition. * cc-align.el (c-gnu-impose-minimum): Reverted to the old method of checking the context in which to apply the minimum indentation, so that it isn't enforced in e.g. namespace blocks. * cc-vars.el (c-inside-block-syms): New constant used by `c-gnu-impose-minimum'. It's defined close to `c-offsets-alist' to somewhat reduce the risk of becoming stale. * cc-cmds.el, cc-engine.el (c-shift-line-indentation): Moved from cc-cmds to cc-engine to allow use from cc-align. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-engine.el (c-beginning-of-inheritance-list): Cope with fully qualified identifiers containing "::". 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-defs.el (c-make-keywords-re): Added kludge for bug in `regexp-opt' in Emacs 20 and XEmacs when strings contain newlines. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-vars.el (c-emacs-features): Use a space in front of the name of the temporary buffer. That also avoids dumping problems in XEmacs due to undo info being left around after the buffer is killed. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-engine.el (c-in-knr-argdecl): Look closer at the function arglist to see if it's a K&R style declaration. (c-guess-basic-syntax): CASE 5B.2: Check with `c-in-knr-argdecl' before returning `knr-argdecl-intro'. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ecb/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.14 released. 2003-11-18 Klaus Berndl * Sync with current upstream 2.11, see NEWS for details. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/hyperbole/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.14 released. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/mh-e/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.28 released. 2003-11-17 Steve Youngs * Makefile (MAINTAINER): Change to XEmacs Beta, I don't have time for it anymore. * package-info.in (description): Update. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/net-utils/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.34 released. 2003-11-17 Steve Youngs * xemacsbug.el (report-xemacs-bug-packages-list): New. (report-xemacs-bug): Use it. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/text-modes/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.72 released. * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream version 1.16. Installing These: ================ Manually: - -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): - ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): - ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. norbert - XEmacs Package Release Manager. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: Hyperbole has been out of sync wrt the packaging system, so I played it safe and created a new version. New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== cc-mode-1.42-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.30.8 ecb-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.11 hyperbole-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.18 net-utils-1.34-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none text-modes-1.72-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: ================================================== Detailed Changes: ================ - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/cc-mode/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.42 released. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * Patch release 5.30.8. * cc-engine.el (c-guess-continued-construct, c-guess-basic-syntax): Check a little more carefully if it's a function declaration when an unknown construct followed by a block is found inside a statement context. This avoids macros followed by blocks to be taken as function declarations. (c-guess-continued-construct): Changed the analysis of a statement continuation with a brace open to `substatement-block', for consistency with recognized statements. (c-add-stmt-syntax): Don't continue to the surrounding sexp if the start is in a position so that `c-beginning-of-statement-1' jumped to the beginning of the same statement. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-fonts.el, cc-engine.el (c-forward-<>-arglist-recur): Don't accept binary operators in the arglist if we're in a function call context, i.e. if `c-restricted-<>-arglists' is set. That avoids template recognition in cases like "if (a < b || c > d)". (c-restricted-<>-arglists): New more appropriate name for `c-disallow-comma-in-<>-arglists'. Accessing functions updated for the variable name change. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-engine.el (c-syntactic-re-search-forward): Fix bug where the match data could get clobbered if NOT-INSIDE-TOKEN is used. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-engine.el (c-beginning-of-statement-1): Don't allow parens in labels. (c-backward-to-decl-anchor): Use `c-beginning-of-statement-1' instead of duplicating parts of it. This fixes bogus label recognition. * cc-align.el (c-gnu-impose-minimum): Reverted to the old method of checking the context in which to apply the minimum indentation, so that it isn't enforced in e.g. namespace blocks. * cc-vars.el (c-inside-block-syms): New constant used by `c-gnu-impose-minimum'. It's defined close to `c-offsets-alist' to somewhat reduce the risk of becoming stale. * cc-cmds.el, cc-engine.el (c-shift-line-indentation): Moved from cc-cmds to cc-engine to allow use from cc-align. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-engine.el (c-beginning-of-inheritance-list): Cope with fully qualified identifiers containing "::". 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-defs.el (c-make-keywords-re): Added kludge for bug in `regexp-opt' in Emacs 20 and XEmacs when strings contain newlines. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-vars.el (c-emacs-features): Use a space in front of the name of the temporary buffer. That also avoids dumping problems in XEmacs due to undo info being left around after the buffer is killed. 2003-11-16 Martin Stjernholm * cc-engine.el (c-in-knr-argdecl): Look closer at the function arglist to see if it's a K&R style declaration. (c-guess-basic-syntax): CASE 5B.2: Check with `c-in-knr-argdecl' before returning `knr-argdecl-intro'. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/ecb/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.14 released. 2003-11-18 Klaus Berndl * Sync with current upstream 2.11, see NEWS for details. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/hyperbole/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.14 released. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/net-utils/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.34 released. 2003-11-17 Steve Youngs * xemacsbug.el (report-xemacs-bug-packages-list): New. (report-xemacs-bug): Use it. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/text-modes/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-18 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.72 released. * htmlize.el: Sync with upstream version 1.16. Installing These: ================ Manually: - -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): - ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): - ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. norbert - XEmacs Package Release Manager. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/ulUAgu3ywdHdhM0RAqLMAKDiBHSzPJXKz2iMOjtyREsWnoBJQQCgkUgX f4Oe+Dw87nLz5OVvX3yl9fk= =OrFz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 12:37:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIHa1v32654; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:36:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIHYCY32092 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:34:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIHYAQ32080 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:34:10 -0500 Received: from mtagate2.de.ibm.com (mtagate2.de.ibm.com [195.212.29.151]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIHYAv32074 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:34:10 -0500 Received: from d12relay02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12relay02.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.196] (may be forged)) by mtagate2.de.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAIHY4Hf088086 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:34:04 GMT Received: from d12ml703.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.228]) by d12relay02.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.9/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id hAIHY4N9231696 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:34:04 +0100 Subject: Bruno Blanchard/France/IBM is out of the office. 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 13:01:36 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAII07v08110; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:00:08 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIHxWd07754 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:59:32 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIHxRd07728 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:59:27 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIHxQv07724 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:59:26 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25117; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:59:25 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com References: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> From: Jake Colman Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:59:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:04:58 +0100") Message-ID: <7665hhlfr6.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "HN" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: HN> Jake Colman writes: >> First, why does XEmacs have its own, very different, version of >> font-lock? HN> This is, to me, a strange question. XEmacs has had font-lock from HN> *very* long ago (possibly before FSF), and until recently it was not HN> at all clear which version was "better". It's sort of like asking why HN> we have a different version of isearch or a different version of HN> `files.el'. Ok, point taken. Thanks. As I mention below I just realized that font-lock is actually part of core and not done as packages. This should have made it clear to me that we need, or want, a different (better) implementation. I assume we try to stay feature-compatible with FSF so that anythng that they can do we can do too. >> I'd really like to use this function and this comment does not quite >> do it for me. Can anyone tell me why it's missing? HN> I assume that, so far, noone has needed it. Maybe it wouldn't be that HN> hard to add? >> Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer HN> Go ahead and tinker! :-) Our implementarion is vastly different than FSF's. I cannot simply add the missing function because it makes assumptions about how other functions (i.e., font-lock-set-defaults) work. Our implementation of that function is radically different so none of this can be simply ported from one version to the other. Having said all that, if I did decide to undertake the (non-trivial?) effort to implement the font-lock-add-keywords function, what patch process would I follow? font-lock is part of core, correct? This means that I'd have to submit a patch to 21.5, have it approved, and then recommend it back for 21.4, correct? -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 14:50:28 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIJn5v16119; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:49:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIJmvH16052 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:48:57 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIJmtm16041 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:48:55 -0500 Received: from smtp.ai.org (host1.in.gov [199.8.101.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAIJmtv16036 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:48:55 -0500 Received: (qmail 942 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2003 19:34:01 -0000 Received: from bart.ai.org (10.8.6.80) by smtp.ai.org with SMTP; 18 Nov 2003 19:34:01 -0000 Received: from civicnet.net (apu.ai.org [10.8.49.207]) by bart.ai.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAIJmpX9001902; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:48:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FBA77A3.9070006@civicnet.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:48:51 -0500 From: Bryan Shell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs References: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> In-Reply-To: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jake Colman wrote: > First, why does XEmacs have its own, very different, version of font-lock? > Are our internals so incompatible that implementation of font-lock has to be > different? I'm not implying that that's not be the case; I'm simply curious > about the history over here. > > My real issue is that FSF font-lock has a function called > font-lock-add-keywords that is missing from our implementation. There is a > comment in our implementation that says the following: > > ;;; FSF has here: > ;; support for add-keywords, global-font-lock-mode and > ;; font-lock-support-mode (unified support for various *-lock modes). > > I'd really like to use this function and this comment does not quite do it > for me. Can anyone tell me why it's missing? Also, can anyone tell me how > to do the equivalent using XEmacs' font-lock? I'd like to (easily) add a new > C++ keyword to those that are already recognized for fontification. > > Thanks! > Here is what you can try: (defun my-c++-mode () (setq c++-font-lock-keywords (append c++-font-lock-keywords (list '(**ADD KEYWORD REGEX AS STRING HERE** **ADD AN INT HERE** **ADD FONTLOCK FACE NAME HERE** t))))) (add-hook 'c++-mode-hook 'my-c++-mode) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 15:40:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIKd1v00778; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:39:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIKcBt00507 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:38:11 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIKbuh00416 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:37:56 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIKbsv00406 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:37:55 -0500 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMCbh-0004mE-00 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:37:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMCbg-0004m6-00 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:37:52 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMCbg-0002bX-00 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:37:52 +0100 From: Jon Ericson Subject: Re: [REQUEST] xemacs-users-ru list archive on XEmacs site displays non-ascii subjects in more readable fasion Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:37:50 -0800 Organization: I speak for myself; not JPL, NASA nor the US Government Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, cygwin32) X-Face: "Ro}i#1h*rV:tg+F.!]r/y,RDL'`*sc[_1LB'%*akh@LHbt,:gBJ/:2cS@:hpBLtYO)o3a; w3Tli`r,.jIZD-zR)p7:^V^}#Wz@.\av>O{!8S.h>lnL3eMT1",~EiISLm4rw/*qVW3xE#vj4}#Cq' 57,?HW3K-Hl.B+&{=>+e;R:J~'tJ*~fS*2n-G_8_5eS[w?#*JF~tj#~=zglo*\&YBS1&Zr2gP] Cancel-Lock: sha1:PzBSHnOBjRcHODzCOdCqX1Si3vc= X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) writes: > XEmacs.org stores archives of xemacs-users-ru. Most articles on the > list have their subjects in koi8-r. > > The subjects are displayed 'as is', without processing. Concider > for exmaple the subject: XEmacs =?koi8-r?b?yQ==?= `coding' file > variable > > It would be great if xemacs.org archives recognise and present rfc 2047 > encoded headers in the specified encoding. Gmane has an archive of the XEmacs lists. Does look better? Jon -- But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve . . . But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD. -- Joshua 24:15 (NIV) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 16:05:33 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIL46v08530; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:04:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIL3mY08446 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:03:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIL3lW08437 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:03:47 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIL3iv08417; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:03:44 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AMD0h-00040L-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:03:43 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (VsFFKcZFoeOi6w6pHgMXbwLY5L5u10wV1zhvTSFGYUyD1ap74K1X6H@[217.229.9.102]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AMD0Y-0RiMca0; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:03:34 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: [ilya beylin] archive of xemacs-users-ru unreadable X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:04:04 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Seen: false X-ID: VsFFKcZFoeOi6w6pHgMXbwLY5L5u10wV1zhvTSFGYUyD1ap74K1X6H X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= While this is being discussed ... --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline X-From-Line: ilya@telia.com Tue Nov 18 00:47:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135]) by mailin01.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1ALt6U-151G2S0; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:48:22 +0100 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHNm1v29140; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:48:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHNlHw28752 for xemacs-webmaint-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:47:17 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHNl4u28660 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:47:04 -0500 Received: (from xemacweb@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAHNl4v28649 for xemacs-webmaint@xemacs.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:47:04 -0500 Received: from smtp7.hy.skanova.net (smtp7.hy.skanova.net [195.67.199.140]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAHNl2v28620 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:47:02 -0500 Received: from happy (h115n2fls34o887.telia.com [217.208.231.115]) by smtp7.hy.skanova.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAHNkx20003121 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:47:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001101c3ad65$26b78790$0100a8c0@happy> From: "ilya beylin" To: Subject: archive of xemacs-users-ru unreadable Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:47:24 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-XEmacs-List: webmaint X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-webmaint-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-webmaint-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-webmaint@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , X-Seen: false X-Content-Length: 2965 Lines: 79 Xref: D5DC120J xemacs-webmaint:3054 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===-=-=" --===-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 (Feedback from /Lists/index.html) Hi Webmaster. I appretiate your effort of maintaining the xemacs mailing list archives, but it seems that the archives of the Russian (and probably also Japanese) are completely useless, because of the encoding mess. All the indexes and articles are displayed in the default encoding (Latin1 for us in the West), the subjects are displayed in raw MIME64 (like Re: xemacs =?koi8-r?b?ySDQ08XXxM/H0sHGycvBLg==?=, Sergey Sholokhov) and the search works only in some special cases. Has no one complained about it? Is ther any plan to improve it? Probably the right way to convert the archives to unicode, or at least to some single Cyrillic encoding (eg Koi-8), but if I am the only one who is trying to read the archive the it make no point to fix it Regards, Ilya --===-=-= Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
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    Hi Webmaster.
    I appretiate your effort of maintaining the xemacs mailing list archives, but it seems that the archives of the Russian (and probably also Japanese) are completely useless, because of the encoding mess.
    All the indexes and articles are displayed in the default encoding (Latin1 for us in the West), the subjects are displayed in raw MIME64 (like
    and the search works only in some special cases.
    Has no one complained about it?
    Is ther any plan to improve it?
    Probably the right way to convert the archives to unicode, or at least to some single Cyrillic encoding (eg Koi-8), but if I am the only one who is trying to read the archive the it make no point to fix it
     
    Regards,
    Ilya
     
    --===-=-=-- --=-=-= -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 16:10:22 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIL91v09957; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:09:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIL8Ox09794 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:08:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIL8NH09780 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:08:23 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAIL8Mv09775 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:08:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 25104 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2003 22:08:20 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (213.191.128.12) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 18 Nov 2003 22:08:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 24369 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2003 22:08:19 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 18 Nov 2003 22:08:19 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs References: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <7665hhlfr6.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:10:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7665hhlfr6.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> (Jake Colman's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:59:25 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jake Colman writes: > HN> Go ahead and tinker! :-) > > Our implementarion is vastly different than FSF's. I cannot simply > add the missing function because it makes assumptions about how > other functions (i.e., font-lock-set-defaults) work. Our > implementation of that function is radically different so none of > this can be simply ported from one version to the other. Well, that's why I said "tinker" rather than "copy and paste". > Having said all that, if I did decide to undertake the > (non-trivial?) effort to implement the font-lock-add-keywords > function, what patch process would I follow? Mail the patch to xemacs-patches@xemacs.org. If the patch meets the standards of quality (which I have no reason to believe it won't), it will be accepted and applied to the CVS tree. > This means that I'd have to submit a patch to 21.5, have it > approved, and then recommend it back for 21.4, correct? Given that it's a new feature, Vin will probably not accept it for 21.4. But you can still ask. (Also note that there are differences between the font-lock in 21.5 and the one in 21.4.) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 16:55:29 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAILs1v23734; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:54:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAILrjH23645 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:53:45 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAILrh223633 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:53:43 -0500 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAILrgv23622; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:53:42 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AMDn3-0002mq-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:41 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (XNDhmQZHQe5bXsighXqbdfQQlchTUDYt6sjvyxw2jbTzlrHhM9ny4U@[217.229.9.102]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AMDmq-23Orrc0; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:28 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:32:31 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: XNDhmQZHQe5bXsighXqbdfQQlchTUDYt6sjvyxw2jbTzlrHhM9ny4U X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Norbert" == Norbert Koch writes: Norbert> Adrian Aichner writes: Norbert> Hi! >> I like "none" or a small set of words if we need to distinguish between >> none, Norbert> Point taken. Norbert> I'll change it into none in the output. I won't change Norbert> it in the Makefiles or touch the default returned by the Norbert> make process. I've seen the result, and I like it! Thanks, Norbert Norbert> norbert. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 17:07:27 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIM61v01717; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:06:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIM4Yr00583 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:04:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIM4XB00574 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:04:33 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIM4Wv00568 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:04:33 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01979; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:04:31 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com References: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <3FBA77A3.9070006@civicnet.net> From: Jake Colman Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:04:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3FBA77A3.9070006@civicnet.net> (Bryan Shell's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:48:51 -0500") Message-ID: <76oev9jpu8.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "BS" == Bryan Shell writes: BS> Jake Colman wrote: >> First, why does XEmacs have its own, very different, version of font-lock? >> Are our internals so incompatible that implementation of font-lock has to be >> different? I'm not implying that that's not be the case; I'm simply curious >> about the history over here. >> My real issue is that FSF font-lock has a function called >> font-lock-add-keywords that is missing from our implementation. There is a >> comment in our implementation that says the following: >> ;;; FSF has here: >> ;; support for add-keywords, global-font-lock-mode and >> ;; font-lock-support-mode (unified support for various *-lock modes). >> I'd really like to use this function and this comment does not quite do it >> for me. Can anyone tell me why it's missing? Also, can anyone tell me how >> to do the equivalent using XEmacs' font-lock? I'd like to (easily) add a new >> C++ keyword to those that are already recognized for fontification. >> Thanks! >> BS> Here is what you can try: BS> (defun my-c++-mode () BS> (setq c++-font-lock-keywords BS> (append c++-font-lock-keywords BS> (list '(**ADD KEYWORD REGEX AS STRING HERE** **ADD AN INT BS> HERE** **ADD FONTLOCK FACE NAME HERE** t))))) BS> (add-hook 'c++-mode-hook 'my-c++-mode) Bryan, I tried this: (setq c++-font-lock-keywords (append c++-font-lock-keywords (list '(".*foreach.*" 1 font-lock-keyword-face t)))) but to no avail. I did check that in the c++-mode buffer, the c++-font-lock-keywords variable has my setting but it still did not fontify. Am I supposed to specify the regexp for my new keyword differently somehow? Also, what is the final 't' used for in the list? Thanks! -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 17:11:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIMA1v03012; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:10:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIM9FA02767 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:09:15 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIM9E802752 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:09:14 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIM9Dv02744 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:09:14 -0500 Received: from pd9e606c4.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.230.6.196] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AME25-000LPt-8i for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:09:13 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AME4R-000OYd-Fs for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:11:39 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs Packages have been released (2003-11-13) References: From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Adrian Aichner's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:58 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: > I've seen the result, and I like it! Good, so we're settled :-) norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 17:25:25 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIMO0v10655; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:24:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIMN3V10373 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:23:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIMN1510355 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:23:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIMN0v10351 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:23:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5MbYr26161 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hA5MbSp26122 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:28 -0500 Received: from mercury.polarisnetworks.com ([216.15.8.227]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hA5MbRv26110 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:37:28 -0500 Received: from jupiter.polarisnetworks.com ([192.168.0.19]) by mercury.polarisnetworks.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:37:29 -0800 Received: by JUPITER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:38:10 -0800 Received: from aquia.polarisnetworks.com (192.168.200.138 [192.168.200.138]) by jupiter.polarisnetworks.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id WJHPWNSM; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:35:26 -0800 Received: by aquia.polarisnetworks.com (Postfix, from userid 1069) id D5D4D559A4; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:34:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: From: "Muniganti, Vinay" To: "'XEmacs Beta'" Subject: [Bug: 21.1.14] Crashes repeatedly Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:38:09 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! XEmacs crashes repeatedly whenever I edit java code and add code like follows: If the code is like # CODE if () do something; # CODE and I change it to something like adding a simple else statement: # CODE if () do something; else # CODE The moment I hit return after "else" or hit spacebar after that, it crashes. This doesn't always happen but sometimes its quite frequent. The only way is to add some other code and then delete it later. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: SunOS wsu5-02-019 5.7 Generic_106541-17 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi-Engine ./configure '--with-gcc' '--prefix=/home/vmuniganti/tools/xemacs-21.1.14' '--exec-prefix=/home/vmuniganti/tools/xemacs-21.1.14' XEmacs 21.1.14 "Cuyahoga Valley" configured for `sparc-sun-solaris2.7'. Where should the build process find the source code? /net/uranus/export/home/vmuniganti/tools/xemacs-21.1.14 What installation prefix should install use? /home/vmuniganti/tools/xemacs-21.1.14 What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/sol2.h' and `m/sparc.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/dt/include /usr/openwin/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/dt/lib /usr/openwin/lib Runtime library search path: /usr/ccs/lib:/usr/dt/lib:/usr/openwin/lib:/usr/local/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG image handling. Compiling in support for (builtin) GIF image handling. Compiling in support for JPEG image handling. Compiling in native sound support. Compiling in support for DBM. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for ToolTalk. Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 17:22:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIML1v09005; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:21:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIMKhs08898 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:20:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIMKfX08884 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:20:41 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIMKdv08878; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:20:39 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AMED8-0005sm-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:20:38 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (Ek0VaaZFZe4SOxYl21hpIuSpH+Pukq7ujyRkLQkmucsRjqh3vI6l61@[217.229.9.102]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AMECw-0VfvIO0; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:20:26 +0100 To: Jake Colman Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <3FBA77A3.9070006@civicnet.net> <76oev9jpu8.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:20:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <76oev9jpu8.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> (Jake Colman's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:04:31 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: Ek0VaaZFZe4SOxYl21hpIuSpH+Pukq7ujyRkLQkmucsRjqh3vI6l61 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jake" == Jake Colman writes: Jake> Bryan, Jake> I tried this: Jake> (setq c++-font-lock-keywords Jake> (append c++-font-lock-keywords Jake> (list '(".*foreach.*" 1 font-lock-keyword-face t)))) Jake> but to no avail. I did check that in the c++-mode buffer, Jake> the c++-font-lock-keywords variable has my setting but it Jake> still did not fontify. Am I supposed to specify the regexp Jake> for my new keyword differently somehow? Also, what is the Jake> final 't' used for in the list? Hello Jake, see `font-lock-keywords' (buffer: *Hyper Apropos*, mode: Hyper-Apropos) The t you refer to is the OVERRIDE argument in above documentation: FONT-LOCK-FORM :== MATCHER | (MATCHER . MATCH) | (MATCHER . FACE-FORM) | (MATCHER . HIGHLIGHT) | (MATCHER HIGHLIGHT ...) | (eval . FORM) MATCH-HIGHLIGHT :== (MATCH FACE-FORM OVERRIDE LAXMATCH) OVERRIDE :== t - overwrite existing fontification | 'keep - only parts not already fontified are highlighted. | 'prepend - merge faces, this fontification has precedence over existing | 'append - merge faces, existing fontification has precedence over this face. Hope this helps, Adrian Jake> Thanks! Jake> -- Jake> Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 18:10:28 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIN95v09318; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:09:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIN89d09000 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:08:09 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAIN87B08985 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:08:07 -0500 Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net (lakemtao04.cox.net [68.1.17.241]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAIN87v08981 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:08:07 -0500 Received: from cox.net ([68.224.196.240]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031118230804.SYZH19895.lakemtao04.cox.net@cox.net> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:08:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBAA70F.8040809@cox.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:11:11 -0500 From: "David A. Cobb" Reply-To: "David A. Cobb" , XEmacs Beta Discussion User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031110 Thunderbird/0.4a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XEmacs Beta Discussion Subject: Compiling for Cygwin [again] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , After a long hiatus. Trying once again to build "xemacs-r21-5-latest-beta" (2003-11-17). Environment is the very latest in Cygwin tools, GCC 3.3.1 (cygming special) Discovered that many options not fully supported lead to the kind of messy trash I got before when the compiler is handed the stuff from which the final Makefile('s) are created: complaints about invalid tokens. I thought, however, that I had trimmed things down far enough except that it fails looking for undefined symbol "_WinMain@16". SEE ATTACHED CLIPPING FROM CONFIGURE.LOG I know what _WinMain@16 is supposed to be. A Cygwin program shouldn't have one. To me this looks like the wrong runtime initializer is being called in ( crt0.o ?, crtinit.o ? -- whatever ). Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate "By God's Grace, I am a Christian man; by my actions a great sinner." -- The Way of a Pilgrim: R.French, Tr. Life is too short to tolerate crappy software! From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 19:35:25 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ0Y2v06275; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:34:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ0XSI06086 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:33:28 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ0XQt06074 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:33:26 -0500 Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ0XLv06044 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:33:21 -0500 Received: from 65-78-14-79.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com ([65.78.14.79] helo=zion.rcn.com) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #4) id 1AMGHY-0005oS-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:33:20 -0500 Received: by zion.rcn.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id A26AE1E081; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:28:15 -0500 (EST) To: "Muniganti, Vinay" Cc: "'XEmacs Beta'" Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.1.14] Crashes repeatedly References: From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:28:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Vinay Muniganti's message of "Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:38:09 -0800") Message-ID: Lines: 53 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Muniganti, Vinay" writes: > ================================================================ > Dear Bug Team! > > XEmacs crashes repeatedly whenever I edit java code and add code > like follows: > > If the code is like > > # CODE > if () > do something; > # CODE > > and I change it to something like adding a simple else statement: > > # CODE > if () > do something; > else > # CODE > > > The moment I hit return after "else" or hit spacebar after that, it > crashes. This doesn't always happen but sometimes its quite frequent. > The only way is to add some other code and then delete it later. > > > ================================================================ > > System Info to help track down your bug: > --------------------------------------- > > > uname -a: SunOS wsu5-02-019 5.7 Generic_106541-17 sun4u sparc > SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi-Engine > > ./configure '--with-gcc' '--prefix=/home/vmuniganti/tools/xemacs-21.1.14' > '--exec-prefix=/home/vmuniganti/tools/xemacs-21.1.14' > > > XEmacs 21.1.14 "Cuyahoga Valley" configured for `sparc-sun-solaris2.7'. Although this is almost certainly a bug in XEmacs (it should never crash), I don't have much advice for you other than this very generic: 21.1.14 is pretty old, you should probably upgrade to the most recent stable release, currently 21.4.14. HTH, Vin Shelton XEmacs Stable Release Engineer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 20:04:40 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ13Cv15595; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:03:12 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ12rJ15486 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:02:53 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ12mS15469 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:02:48 -0500 Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ12ev15427; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:02:40 -0500 Received: from 65-78-14-79.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com ([65.78.14.79] helo=zion.rcn.com) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #4) id 1AMGjv-0003qb-00; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:02:39 -0500 Received: by zion.rcn.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id E055F1E081; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:57:34 -0500 (EST) To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: Matthias Neubauer , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Michael Sperber , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:57:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:17:44 +0100") Message-ID: Lines: 36 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hrvoje Niksic writes: > Matthias Neubauer writes: > >> Our intention never was to fix this mess! We never intended to. All we >> did was adding another, separate and independent, font model > > But that's exactly what Stephen is objecting to! > > Someone who did want to fix the mess is facing a harder job if he also > had to take Xft into account. I'm not sure if that's a good enough > reason to "stop progress", but I certainly see Stephen's point. > > I'm really undecided on this one. I have not looked at the patch, but vetoing it on the principle that the Great Font Unification will be impeded by this work is not conducive to progress, in my opinion. Stephen wrote: > Sure. So what? The question is does it make XEmacs better? My > conclusion is that it makes XEmacs distinctly _worse_ except as eye > candy. Matthias Neubauer wrote: > It makes my daily XEmacs life better in at least one respect: I'm now > able to work with an eight point default font. This is two points > smaller than before---which of course results in much more code on my > screen at once. >From my point of view, this amounts to an improvement in usability for Matthias. What do others think? - Vin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 22:35:33 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ3Y2v27719; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:34:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ3XFi27528 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:33:15 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ3X1827482 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:33:01 -0500 Received: from screech.rychter.com (screech.rychter.com [212.87.11.114]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ3X0v27476 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:33:00 -0500 Received: from tnuctip.rychter.com (unknown [10.197.0.2]) by screech.rychter.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8064D4A606 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:32:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from tnuctip.rychter.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tnuctip.rychter.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAJ3YRtS006697 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:34:29 -0800 Received: (from jwr@localhost) by tnuctip.rychter.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAJ3YPIN006695; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:34:25 -0800 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] XEmacs hangs when doing networking References: X-Spammers-Please: blackholeme@rychter.com From: Jan Rychter Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:34:23 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Jan Rychter's message of "Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:49:34 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Several weeks ago I wrote: > XEmacs regularly hangs when doing networking. I use Gnus and read news > from several news servers (and IMAP accounts). What often happens is > that XEmacs just hangs and stops responding if anything goes wrong with > a network connection. There seems to be no timeout, e.g. once it's hung, > it will stay that way (I've waited several hours). Nothing is redrawn, > there is just a blank XEmacs window. > > The common recurring theme is the two messages that appear on the > console that XEmacs was started from: > > X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > Major opcode of failed request: 25 (X_SendEvent) > Resource id in failed request: 0xe009ba > Serial number of failed request: 593927 > Current serial number in output stream: 594059 > Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x9108b)! > > xemacs-21.4.14: X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty) > Resource id in failed request: 0xe009ba > Serial number of failed request: 593926 > Current serial number in output stream: 594059 > > The X requests are always the same, only the parameters change. > > After being killed XEmacs sometimes produces a Lisp backtrace, which > usualy points (unsurprisingly) to network code, as in: > > # (unwind-protect ...) > # (unwind-protect ...) > accept-process-output(#" ("nntp" . "news-server.san.rr.com") state:exit> 0 100) > # bind (process) > nnheader-accept-process-output(#" ("nntp" . "news-server.san.rr.com") state:exit>) > # (unwind-protect ...) > # bind (process) > nntp-accept-process-output(#" ("nntp" . "news-server.san.rr.com") state:exit>) > # (unwind-protect ...) > # bind (process wait-for buffer decode discard process timer pbuffer buffer) > nntp-open-connection(#) > [...] > > > As this is happening to me several times a day now, it is extremely > annoying. I seem to remember being able to keep XEmacs running for > weeks: has something changed, or have I started connecting to flaky > services? > > And, most importantly: what can be done about it? [umpteen or so crashes later, having lost some data along the way] Can I do anything else to help resolving this bug? Is this a known problem, or is it just me? Is anyone working on this? I have a feeling this could be related to the resolver. --J. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 22:55:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ3s1v00590; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:54:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ3r5U00353 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:05 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ3r3100341 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:03 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (h80ad271f.async.vt.edu [128.173.39.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ3r1v00328; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:53:01 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id hAJ3qlwS006969; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:52:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200311190352.hAJ3qlwS006969@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: Vin Shelton Cc: Hrvoje Niksic , Matthias Neubauer , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Michael Sperber , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:57:34 EST." From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_853172074P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:52:47 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_853172074P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:57:34 EST, Vin Shelton said: > > Someone who did want to fix the mess is facing a harder job if he also > > had to take Xft into account. I'm not sure if that's a good enough > > reason to "stop progress", but I certainly see Stephen's point. > > > > I'm really undecided on this one. > > I have not looked at the patch, but vetoing it on the principle that > the Great Font Unification will be impeded by this work is not > conducive to progress, in my opinion. Anybody who is even *thinking* of fixing the font mess has to take into consideration that the X world is heading in the Xft direction. Gtk2 is using it, and the writing is on the wall for XFree86 in general. --==_Exmh_853172074P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/uukOcC3lWbTT17ARAjolAJ0Vb2C3KAwLuSSzgDkWvFL08WXvwACcDIi+ VqEcyhll5ZRjzakHSxllyOk= =YZaP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_853172074P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 18 23:27:24 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ4Q2v10139; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:26:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ4Pf710047 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:25:41 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ4PdY10035 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:25:39 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ4Pav10015; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:25:36 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMJuJ-0003En-00; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:25:35 +0900 To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs References: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:25:35 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:04:58 +0100") Message-ID: <87vfph7znk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: >> I'd really like to use this function and this comment does not >> quite do it for me. Can anyone tell me why it's missing? Hrvoje> I assume that, so far, noone has needed it. Maybe it Hrvoje> wouldn't be that hard to add? It's a FAQ, and the people asking for it in most cases have already taken the first couple of hacks at it and hit a wall. :-( I had one person on the short list of people I'd like to have take a look at the issue, but he got grabbed for national service .... Welcome back, Hrvoje! ;-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 01:36:29 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ6Z5v27284; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:35:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ6YC627157 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:34:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ6Xmp27091 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:33:48 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ6Xjv27084 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:33:45 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMLtx-0003Vq-00; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:33:21 +0900 To: Matthias Neubauer Cc: Michael Sperber , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:33:20 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Matthias Neubauer's message of "18 Nov 2003 21:11:17 +0100") Message-ID: <87n0as98b3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Redirecting to xemacs-beta from xemacs-patches. Note this thread has already been redirected at a different stage by Vin Shelton; since this subthread quotes more, I propose we meet here instead of in Vin's subthread. >>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Neubauer writes: Matthias> I don't see where our patch would add "substantial Matthias> complexity" to any of those or other areas you mentioned Matthias> above. Well, I've tried working on all of them, and it _does_ add complexity, at least given my skills. Much of the complexity is because the Xft stuff is not properly abstracted, but rather #ifdef'd into place. This would fit naturally with improvements in face and font description. Matthias> That's correct, Xft is a fourth font description Matthias> model. But you still have to convince me that Customize Matthias> and friends get more complicated with it. No, I don't. It's the other way around. Sorry; that's the point of having a review process. If you can convince others to lean on me, that works too. But you have to do the convincing, at this point. Matthias> I totally agree that having a great, unifying font Matthias> description scheme incorporated into XEmacs would surely Matthias> be an awesome thing. But I think this is a whole other Matthias> project. Yes. One that should be at least in the _design review stage_ before your patch is accepted for 21.5. As I say, I feel your pain. Matthias> you mean by "two-octet Unicode" and "error checking"? "Two-octet unicode" was a mistake. Yuri/Aleksey's patch uses UTF-8. The problem is the same, however. X11 historically just pukes if you feed it data it doesn't expect. Routines that call into X without doing range-checking on the arguments are simply crashes waiting to happen. Do you know what happens if an illegal character is given for one of those fonts? If you do, please document it. (Note that you may not assume at this point that the Mule routines themselves know what they are doing---anything can get passed into Xft: illegal characters, mal-formed UTF-8, and you either have to know the Xft will gracefully signal an error so you can catch it, or catch the bad data yourself.) Matthias> I once integrated their patch into my workspace, built a Matthias> Mule/XEmacs and fiddled around with it quite Matthias> bit. Unfortunately the patch didn't seem to work for me: Matthias> already visiting buffers with just Latin1 text showed Matthias> some wrong character translations of the "upper half" of Matthias> the latin1 char set. Unfortunately I never managed to Matthias> figure out whether the unicode translation is broken or Matthias> I am just unable to use XEmacs with different character Matthias> encodings correctly. Matthias> We also discovered all those problems you describe Matthias> above. And that's why the latest patch leaves all the Matthias> widget code (lwlib) completely untouched, as you Matthias> hopefully noticed. Actually, I was rather disappointed. But we have different viewpoints. But you're saying you _have_ tried several of these desirable things, failed, don't know why---and still you claim you see no additional complexity? Think again; are you kidding yourself? Matthias> Then, there seems no (obvious) way to incorporate the Matthias> automatic selection of charsets into the current font Matthias> selection scheme using just pattern strings and Matthias> Customize. Yup, and that needs to come first IMO. Matthias> do you really foresee [fixing custom and the font model] Matthias> to happen in the not-too-distant future? Not if someone doesn't push for it to happen. It does need to happen, or XEmacs will lose users that it really should have. Matthias> Are there any plans to do this? Ben has some ideas that are related, Hrvoje has some ideas specifically along these lines, I have some ideas. If there are features in the queue that are waiting, we'll have more incentive to turn them into "plans", and those who have features they want in will help us to design something that works for everybody. Matthias> Are there any people willing to work on this? Dunno. I don't know what Ben plans or has time for, or Hrvoje. I'll probably have some time for the next couple of months, but I'm not the programmer that some of the other guys are. ms> but defaulting it to off for now? (And forcing it to off with ms> Mule.) >> Ie, nobody using Mule sees it, nobody fixes the breakage, and >> the problems get worse with every Mule-ignorant patch. No, >> thank you. Matthias> Our Mule users see some nice Xft-enabled XEmacs at their Matthias> neighbors', they get jealous, do their homework and fix Matthias> the breakage in no time at all ... :-) You don't fix design breakage in no time at all. ms> We've been over this often: branches in CVS simply don't work ms> well enough to support this model gracefully. >> I've been following this patch for months in a local workspace. >> All you need to do is keep a separate ChangeLog. This ain't >> brain surgery, or even KKCC. Nobody is currently working on >> any of the related areas (lwlib, redisplay, Custom, faces). Matthias> I'm not in favor of a separate branch either. We all Matthias> know how it ends ... Yeah. You put on your waders, step into the muck, start shoveling, and several hours or days later you have a merged workspace. Even in free software, not everything can be fun. Not all patches should be merged. Etc. Matthias> So, are there any ways to resolve the current situation? You'll notice I haven't issued a formal veto, yet. All I want at this stage is to talk about the issues before we commit something that really looks fishy to me, precisely because you're not interested in addressing any of the fundamental breakage. Your patch is perfectly appropriate for 21.6. I proposed that quite a while ago, and it was vetoed by the same people who don't like branches. Maybe we should revive it. Or maybe you can get Vin to take it. Matthias> Anyways, receiving a couple of private emails from Matthias> others users shows me that I'm not the only one who Matthias> likes eye candies either ... :-) Everybody likes candy. Too much of it and you get far more friendly with your dentist than is good for your wallet, not to mention painful. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 03:32:30 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ8V6v18622; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:31:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ8UmW18562 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:30:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ8Ukp18551 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:30:46 -0500 Received: from mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (mta2-svc.business.ntl.com [62.253.164.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ8Ukv18544 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:30:46 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.68.72]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031119083044.LDKA28456.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:30:44 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hAJ7pFd01227; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:51:15 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16315.8435.739271.517282@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:51:15 +0000 To: Jan Rychter Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] XEmacs hangs when doing networking In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jan Rychter wrote: > > The common recurring theme is the two messages that appear on the > > console that XEmacs was started from: > > > > X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > > Major opcode of failed request: 25 (X_SendEvent) > > Resource id in failed request: 0xe009ba > > Serial number of failed request: 593927 > > Current serial number in output stream: 594059 > > Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x9108b)! > > > > xemacs-21.4.14: X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > > Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty) > > Resource id in failed request: 0xe009ba > > Serial number of failed request: 593926 > > Current serial number in output stream: 594059 > [umpteen or so crashes later, having lost some data along the way] > > Can I do anything else to help resolving this bug? The following may produce useful information, but they may involve more inconvenience than you can accept: Log all calls to x_reply_selection_request(), including the serial numbers of the outbound events (using NextRequest()). Add XSync() calls within x_reply_selection_request(), and set a breakpoint (in gdb) on x_error_handler(). Add XSync() calls after all calls to XChangeProperty(), and set a breakpoint on x_error_handler() (in the event that the previous suggestion doesn't catch the error). > Is this a known problem, or is it just me? You certainly aren't the only person to report it. > Is anyone working on this? I don't think so. > I have a feeling this could be related to the resolver. How so? -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 04:16:25 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ9F0v27979; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:15:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ9EWA27900 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:14:32 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ9EVn27890 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:14:31 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ9EUv27881 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:14:30 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMOPl-0003uY-00; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:14:21 +0900 To: Jan Rychter , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] XEmacs hangs when doing networking References: <16315.8435.739271.517282@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:14:20 +0900 In-Reply-To: <16315.8435.739271.517282@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> (Glynn Clements's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:51:15 +0000") Message-ID: <87fzgk90ur.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Glynn" == Glynn Clements writes: >> Is this a known problem, or is it just me? Glynn> You certainly aren't the only person to report it. Certainly similar problems with BadWindow errors from X have been reported. ISTR Mike Sperber fixed one that was biting him, or maybe it went away as soon as he said he was going to look for it. :-/ However I think Glynn suggested earlier that that is possibly due to some client or window manager that is doing something bogus; I think it's unlikely to be related to the Gnus problem. The Gnus problem smells like a deadlock in the process code; maybe Ben will be able to take a look at it soon. >> Is anyone working on this? Glynn> I don't think so. If working means "doing what we can", then yes. I've looked at code that I can imagine being related, I'm sure others have too, but without a more or less reproducible case, that's as far as it can go. I hope you will add the logging code that Glynn suggests, as that might help us to catch the X-related problem. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 04:35:28 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ9Y2v00482; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:34:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ9XYw00361 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:33:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJ9XXc00351 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:33:33 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJ9XNv00314; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:33:23 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMOhr-0003vU-00; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:33:03 +0900 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: Vin Shelton , Hrvoje Niksic , Matthias Neubauer , Michael Sperber , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200311190352.hAJ3qlwS006969@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:33:02 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200311190352.hAJ3qlwS006969@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (Valdis Kletnieks's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:52:47 -0500") Message-ID: <87brr88zzl.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Valdis" == Valdis Kletnieks writes: Valdis> Anybody who is even *thinking* of fixing the font mess has Valdis> to take into consideration that the X world is heading in Valdis> the Xft direction. Gtk2 is using it, and the writing is Valdis> on the wall for XFree86 in general. I like the fontconfig description model, and it looks fairly compatible with Windows, too. There was one comment early in the Xft thread that they didn't think that "the X world" outside of XFree86 is heading in the direction of Xft. Does anybody know what other X servers support Xrender? (The rest of Xft is client-side, AFAIK. fontconfig itself is.) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 06:02:24 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJB11v22422; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:01:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJB0DG21890 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:00:13 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJB0Ba21831 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:00:11 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lan.iskon.hr [213.191.128.133]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJB09v21775; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:00:09 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (frost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJB03pg012266; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:00:03 +0100 Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAJB01xt012264; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:00:02 +0100 To: Vin Shelton Cc: Matthias Neubauer , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Michael Sperber , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:00:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Vin Shelton's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:57:34 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Vin Shelton writes: >>> Our intention never was to fix this mess! We never intended >>> to. All we did was adding another, separate and independent, font >>> model >> >> But that's exactly what Stephen is objecting to! >> >> Someone who did want to fix the mess is facing a harder job if he also >> had to take Xft into account. I'm not sure if that's a good enough >> reason to "stop progress", but I certainly see Stephen's point. >> >> I'm really undecided on this one. > > I have not looked at the patch, but vetoing it on the principle that > the Great Font Unification will be impeded by this work is not > conducive to progress, in my opinion. I don't see it as vetoing on principle. Stephen's point seems to be that, in the current code base, Xft can be added only as a kludge. As a result, the patch makes XEmacs harder to maintain, even though it's prettier to behold. For me the even more important point is that the Xft patch is, by Matthias's own admission, completely broken under Mule. If that is not enough for a veto, I don't know what is. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 09:44:27 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJEh1v17152; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:43:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJEg6r16937 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:42:06 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJEg4o16909 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:42:04 -0500 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru (pluton.ispras.ru [195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAJEg2v16901 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:42:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 35654 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2003 14:18:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truba.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.41) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 19 Nov 2003 14:18:52 -0000 Received: from truba.ispras.ru (root@localhost) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAJEdYxp005532 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:39:34 +0300 Received: from nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (nord.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.175]) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJEdYZt005524 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:39:34 +0300 Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAJElH714888 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:47:17 +0300 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [REQUEST] xemacs-users-ru list archive on XEmacs site displays non-ascii subjects in more readable fasion References: From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:42:08 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Jon Ericson's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:37:50 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (beets, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , http://beta-news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.xemacs.user.russian Yes, it looks better. But the search in russian does not work too. XEmacs archive for xemacs-users-ru displays russian subjects in the article text (with proper encoding in the browser), see for instance http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-users-ru/200311/msg00060.html But the search of russian strings does not work. I have no time until the New Year. If it wont be done until then, then I will volunteer to fix it. That is -- make list display encoded headers and enable language-specific search. But no sooner then the next year :( Nick. intro: "JE" == Jon Ericson writes: JE> npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) writes: >> XEmacs.org stores archives of xemacs-users-ru. Most articles on the list >> have their subjects in koi8-r. >> >> The subjects are displayed 'as is', without processing. Concider for >> exmaple the subject: XEmacs =?koi8-r?b?yQ==?= `coding' file variable >> >> It would be great if xemacs.org archives recognise and present rfc 2047 >> encoded headers in the specified encoding. JE> Gmane has an archive of the XEmacs lists. Does JE> look better? JE> Jon -- But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for JE> yourselves this day whom you will serve . . . But as for me and my JE> household, we will serve the LORD. JE> -- Joshua 24:15 (NIV) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 13:04:19 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJI41v16068; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:04:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJI3hx15997 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:03:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJI3hM15987 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:03:43 -0500 Received: from worldonline.de (h7n2c1o1033.bredband.skanova.com [81.225.105.7]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJI3cv15961 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:03:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:59:12 +0000 From: "Randy Ray" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?TXkgRG9jdG9yIHJlamVjdGVkIG1lISBJIHdlbnQgaGVyZSEgSSBGZWVsIEdyZWF0IQ==?= Message-ID: <2.2.32.20031119175912004ae60e@asgard.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0F1E_AB1AFDC8.44308270" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_70,HTML_60_70, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_02,HTML_MESSAGE,MANY_EXCLAMATIONS autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0F1E_AB1AFDC8.44308270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ------=_NextPart_000_0F1E_AB1AFDC8.44308270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    ------=_NextPart_000_0F1E_AB1AFDC8.44308270-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 17:37:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJMb2v26596; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:37:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJMa7l26438 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:36:07 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJMZnk26397 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:35:49 -0500 Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJMZdv26372; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:35:40 -0500 Received: from hapuna.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (hapuna.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.166.172]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3p2/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA07437; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:35:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (from neubauer@localhost) by hapuna.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.11.7/8.11.6) id hAJMZeJ28718; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:35:40 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hapuna.informatik.uni-freiburg.de: neubauer set sender to neubauer@informatik.uni-freiburg.de using -f To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Michael Sperber , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87n0as98b3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Matthias Neubauer Date: 19 Nov 2003 23:35:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87n0as98b3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 220 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > >>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Neubauer writes: > > Matthias> I don't see where our patch would add "substantial > Matthias> complexity" to any of those or other areas you mentioned > Matthias> above. > > Well, I've tried working on all of them, and it _does_ add complexity, > at least given my skills. Much of the complexity is because the Xft > stuff is not properly abstracted, but rather #ifdef'd into place. > This would fit naturally with improvements in face and font > description. I guess you are talking about the redisplay code here, right? It's hard for me to figure out from your description above, what kind of code you are expecting here? Right now we have several redisplay implementations (tty, Windows, X, X w/ Mule, X w/ Xft, GTK, etc.). They are all either living in separate source files, or they are further separated by #ifdefs. I guess there where reasons for using this design: you want to happen all the redisplay stuff as fast as possible. And since the redisplay mechanism can be chosen statically (by configure and the given configure flags), you also want to choose your (specialized) redisplay code at compile time. Otherwise, you would introduce all sorts of dynamical dispatches into the display code for which I see no reason for---your drawing routines are statically determined. On the lisp level on the other hand, there exists one general dispatching mechanism that dynamically selects the appropriate font selection and customization code depending on your actual display. Here, we just added code to the dispatcher that delegates calls in case of xft fonts to our own emacs lisp code. The actual emacs lisp implementation handling Xft lives in separate files. Or am I missing your point here? If so, you have to be more concrete about what kind of abstractions you are missing specifically at which places in our Xft code. > Matthias> I totally agree that having a great, unifying font > Matthias> description scheme incorporated into XEmacs would surely > Matthias> be an awesome thing. But I think this is a whole other > Matthias> project. > > Yes. One that should be at least in the _design review stage_ before > your patch is accepted for 21.5. As I say, I feel your pain. > > Matthias> you mean by "two-octet Unicode" and "error checking"? > > "Two-octet unicode" was a mistake. Yuri/Aleksey's patch uses UTF-8. > > The problem is the same, however. X11 historically just pukes if you > feed it data it doesn't expect. Routines that call into X without > doing range-checking on the arguments are simply crashes waiting to > happen. Do you know what happens if an illegal character is given for > one of those fonts? If you do, please document it. (Note that you > may not assume at this point that the Mule routines themselves know > what they are doing---anything can get passed into Xft: illegal > characters, malformed UTF-8, and you either have to know the Xft will > gracefully signal an error so you can catch it, or catch the bad data > yourself.) Well, that all sounds to me, as if it's just impossible for us to fix the interplay of Xft and Mule right now by ourselves unless someone fixes Mule first. Or tells us how to use it correctly. All we want is a simple routine that translates the currently encoded string into the correct Utf8 translation. I don't want to be forced to first analyze the converted string, or to even do some fancy conversion on it by myself inside the redisplay code. After all, this is redisplay code we are talking about here. If something like this was in place, all we'd have to do then is to pass Utf8 strings to Xft. The Xft drawing routines never signal an error. Unfortunately I can't tell you what they'll do if they get malformed input---there is no written specification for Xft available somewhere. All I'd rely on is, that the Xft routines at least "draw something" on the screen, as long as they get proper Unicode (Utf8) strings. (I usually see a squared box on the screen for characters that are unsupported by the currently used font.) Given a working Mule (e.g. a Mule that can convert between character sets and UTF 8 correctly), adding Xft support to it should be a one day project. We already have the supplementary patch from Yuri and Alkesey. It would be really cool if some of you, the XEmacs/Mule guys, could look at their Unicode conversion and tell us whether this is the right thing to do to get such an Utf8 conversion. Or otherwise tell us how to fix it. Given that, I am more than happy to integrate it in our stuff to enable Mule support right away. > Matthias> I once integrated their patch into my workspace, built a > Matthias> Mule/XEmacs and fiddled around with it quite > Matthias> bit. Unfortunately the patch didn't seem to work for me: > Matthias> already visiting buffers with just Latin1 text showed > Matthias> some wrong character translations of the "upper half" of > Matthias> the latin1 char set. Unfortunately I never managed to > Matthias> figure out whether the unicode translation is broken or > Matthias> I am just unable to use XEmacs with different character > Matthias> encodings correctly. > > Matthias> We also discovered all those problems you describe > Matthias> above. And that's why the latest patch leaves all the > Matthias> widget code (lwlib) completely untouched, as you > Matthias> hopefully noticed. > > Actually, I was rather disappointed. But we have different viewpoints. > > But you're saying you _have_ tried several of these desirable things, > failed, don't know why---and still you claim you see no additional > complexity? Think again; are you kidding yourself? Sure, I do know why!?! Again, while starting to fiddle with the lwlib stuff, I soon realized that the current widget set simply isn't extendable in ways we would need to extend it for new features such as nicer fonts, customization support, etc. As I said, the reason is that the Lucid widget set is tightly coupled to the Xt library. Enhancing it in any respect is gonna be a pain (and/or a gross hack). This is not a problem that is intrinsic to the addition of Xft fonts only. > Matthias> Then, there seems no (obvious) way to incorporate the > Matthias> automatic selection of charsets into the current font > Matthias> selection scheme using just pattern strings and > Matthias> Customize. > > Yup, and that needs to come first IMO. Why is that? Is the Windows font scheme or the X font scheme doing it automatically (and correctly) right now? > Matthias> do you really foresee [fixing custom and the font model] > Matthias> to happen in the not-too-distant future? > > Not if someone doesn't push for it to happen. It does need to happen, > or XEmacs will lose users that it really should have. > > Matthias> Are there any plans to do this? > > Ben has some ideas that are related, Hrvoje has some ideas > specifically along these lines, I have some ideas. If there are > features in the queue that are waiting, we'll have more incentive to > turn them into "plans", and those who have features they want in will > help us to design something that works for everybody. As Hrvoje pointed out Xft font handling at moment only works by introducing another kludgy font scheme. A unified font description model would be the right thing in this situation. The plan, as far as we got that, is to introduce something like an abstract data type along with some operations on that ADT. I think you once noted that fontconfig's API might give a guideline for finding that set of operations. But clearly we would need our own, private layer on top of all the existing or future font description implementations. (Otherwise you are of course completely tied to one specific technology. In addition, such a technology usually is only available on certain platforms.) Then, these operations need to be implemented for all the different font models: An implementation for XLFD-Fonts, an implementation for Windows-Fonts, etc. We'd argue now, that, with our Xft/FC support integrated, an implementation for Fontconfig would probably very cheap: Eric already hacked most of the bindings for fontconfig. This looks like a small, additional layer of glue code to me for the Fontconfig implementation... On the other hand, implementing this for maybe Windows or X fonts seems much harder. You basically have to reimplement something like "Fontconfig Lite" for those schemes then. > Matthias> Are there any people willing to work on this? > > Dunno. I don't know what Ben plans or has time for, or Hrvoje. I'll > probably have some time for the next couple of months, but I'm not the > programmer that some of the other guys are. > > ms> but defaulting it to off for now? (And forcing it to off with > ms> Mule.) > > >> Ie, nobody using Mule sees it, nobody fixes the breakage, and > >> the problems get worse with every Mule-ignorant patch. No, > >> thank you. > > Matthias> Our Mule users see some nice Xft-enabled XEmacs at their > Matthias> neighbors', they get jealous, do their homework and fix > Matthias> the breakage in no time at all ... :-) > > You don't fix design breakage in no time at all. > > ms> We've been over this often: branches in CVS simply don't work > ms> well enough to support this model gracefully. > > >> I've been following this patch for months in a local workspace. > >> All you need to do is keep a separate ChangeLog. This ain't > >> brain surgery, or even KKCC. Nobody is currently working on > >> any of the related areas (lwlib, redisplay, Custom, faces). > > Matthias> I'm not in favor of a separate branch either. We all > Matthias> know how it ends ... > > Yeah. You put on your waders, step into the muck, start shoveling, > and several hours or days later you have a merged workspace. Even in > free software, not everything can be fun. Not all patches should be > merged. Etc. > > Matthias> So, are there any ways to resolve the current situation? > > You'll notice I haven't issued a formal veto, yet. All I want at this > stage is to talk about the issues before we commit something that > really looks fishy to me, precisely because you're not interested in > addressing any of the fundamental breakage. Unfortunately it's very hard for us to tell what precisely is the understanding of "addressing the fudamental breakages" here? Is it just about adding some more comments, assertions, and procedures at the right places in our redisplay code? Or do we first have to fix Mule, integrate a new widget set, and implement the great unified font scheme before something would happen? Maybe it would be wise to pin down the specific issues and goals more precisely. I hope this might all help us to decide how and where and if we proceed. -- Matthias Neubauer | Universität Freiburg, Institut für Informatik | tel +49 761 203 8060 Georges-Köhler-Allee 79, 79110 Freiburg i. Br., Germany | fax +49 761 203 8052 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 18:52:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJNq3v10539; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:52:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJNps710500 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:51:54 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAJNpfL10451 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:51:41 -0500 Received: from grendal.frinabulax.org (68-69-36-139.mgtnwv.adelphia.net [68.69.36.139] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAJNpev10447 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:51:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.frinabulax.org [127.0.0.1]) by grendal.frinabulax.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAJNq8qK001155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:52:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:52:08 -0500 (EST) From: robert delius royar Reply-To: robert delius royar To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: version control from environment variable Message-ID: Organization: An Apple OS X XEmacs missionary Priority: NEW Precedence: first-class MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , In the file SRC/lisp/startup.el lines 549-557 the following code sets version-control based on the VERSION_CONTROL environment setting: 549- 550- (setq command-line-default-directory default-directory) 551- 552- ;; See if we should import version-control from the environment variable. 553: (let ((vc (getenv "VERSION_CONTROL"))) 554- (cond ((eq vc nil)) ;don't do anything if not set 555- ((or (string= vc "t") 556- (string= vc "numbered")) 557- (setq version-control t)) The problem with this comes when running 'make install' and the system goes through a late iteration of dumping a working XEmacs. The program is in batch mode and does not expect to answer user input. But version-control expects to find out whether to delete excess copies of the generated autoload files. This triggers an assertion. Shouldn't there also be a test for whether we are in batch mode? Or perhaps batchmode should deal with user input prompting. Does any request that leads to a prompt with a needed answer cause batch mode to fail with an assertion? -- Dr. Robert Delius Royar Associate Professor of English Morehead State University Morehead, Kentucky From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 19 21:12:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAK2C5v08859; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:12:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK2B2k08658 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:11:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK2Asn08620 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:10:54 -0500 Received: from swin.edu.au (c3p0.cc.swin.edu.au [136.186.1.30]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAK2Aqv08616 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:10:53 -0500 Received: from tellurium.ssi.swin.edu.au (tellurium.ssi.swin.edu.au [136.186.12.190]) by swin.edu.au (8.9.3p2-20030918/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA625136 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:10:51 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:10:50 +1100 (EST) From: Tim Connors X-X-Sender: tconnors@tellurium.ssi.swin.edu.au cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs In-Reply-To: <76oev9jpu8.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> Message-ID: References: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <3FBA77A3.9070006@civicnet.net> <76oev9jpu8.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jake Colman wrote: > BS> Here is what you can try: > BS> (defun my-c++-mode () > BS> (setq c++-font-lock-keywords > BS> (append c++-font-lock-keywords > BS> (list '(**ADD KEYWORD REGEX AS STRING HERE** **ADD AN INT > BS> HERE** **ADD FONTLOCK FACE NAME HERE** t))))) > BS> (add-hook 'c++-mode-hook 'my-c++-mode) > > Bryan, > > I tried this: > > (setq c++-font-lock-keywords > (append c++-font-lock-keywords > (list '(".*foreach.*" 1 font-lock-keyword-face t)))) > You prompted me to fix my .el files, to not use the font-lock-add-buffer-keywords I had aquired on the emacs wiki site, I think I *might* have just found out what you are doing wrong: Where you by chance getting a "fontifying blah.c... aborted.aborted." message in the modeline? Try putting brackets around the (1 font-lock-keyword-face t) list. So I have now in one of mine: (setq font-lock-keywords (append font-lock-keywords (list '("\\<\\(d?a?\\(cos\\|sin\\|tan\\|tan\\|tan2\\)\\(deg\\)?\\|d?\\(sqrt\\|sqr\\|exp\\|abs\\|int\\|nint\\|min\\|max\\|sign\\|log\\|log10\\)\\)h?\\>" (0 font-lock-math-face append))))) ) Personally, I found the hyper-apropros font-lock-keywords documentation not the easiest to understand :) -- TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/ There are running jobs. Why don't you go chase them? From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 02:39:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAK7d1v07771; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:39:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK7cNa07680 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:38:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK7cKc07671 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:38:20 -0500 Received: from kluster1.contactor.se (kluster1.contactor.se [193.15.23.11]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAK7cKv07664 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:38:20 -0500 Received: from spencer (linux3.contactor.se [193.15.23.23]) by kluster1.contactor.se (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAK7cIun000938 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:38:19 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.14] Where are the buffertabs in recent CVS 21.4.14? From: Mats Lidell Organization: The XEmacs Project X-Face: #[2| MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! A few days ago I noticed that the buffer tabs are not visible anymore in 21.4.14. I also noticed that the "set", "save" and "done" buttons are missing from customize. Everything is well in 21.5 so there seems to have been some recent change to 21.4 that has caused this. Yours %% Mats ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux spencer 2.4.20-8 #1 Thu Mar 13 17:54:28 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux ./configure '--with-mule' '--with-sound=esd' '--package-path=~/.xemacs:/usr/local/src/xemacs/site-packages:/usr/local/src/xemacs/xemacs-packages:/usr/local/src/xemacs/mule-packages' XEmacs 21.4.14 "Reasonable Discussion" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/src/xemacs/stable Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -fno-strict-aliasing -Wshadow Compiler version: gcc (GCC) 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5) Compiler specs file: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.2.2/specs Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. libc: glibc-2.3.2-27.9.6 Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Yours -- %% Mats From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 02:54:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAK7s1v10692; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:54:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK7r0O10553 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:53:00 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK7qxa10533 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:52:59 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAK7qwv10528 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:52:58 -0500 Received: from pd9518a89.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.138.137] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AMjcX-0008wH-Q0 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:52:57 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AMjeu-0004Sm-Td for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:55:24 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] Where are the buffertabs in recent CVS 21.4.14? References: From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Mats Lidell's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:38:18 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Mats Lidell writes: Hello Mats, > A few days ago I noticed that the buffer tabs are not visible anymore > in 21.4.14. I also noticed that the "set", "save" and "done" buttons > are missing from customize. Everything is well in 21.5 so there seems > to have been some recent change to 21.4 that has caused this. Vin wrote on c.e.x that --with-widgets=no is default since 21.4.14 so you'll have to explicitly activate them. He's committed a patch to document this, uh, yesterday? norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 04:24:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAK9O2v30338; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:24:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK9N1730154 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:23:01 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK9Mlk30101 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:22:47 -0500 Received: from kluster1.contactor.se (kluster1.contactor.se [193.15.23.11]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAK9Mjv30097 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:22:46 -0500 Received: from spencer (linux3.contactor.se [193.15.23.23]) by kluster1.contactor.se (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAK9Mgun008572 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:22:42 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] Where are the buffertabs in recent CVS 21.4.14? From: Mats Lidell Organization: The XEmacs Project X-Face: #[2| (Norbert Koch's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:55:24 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> Norbert wrote: Norbert> Vin wrote on c.e.x that --with-widgets=no is default since Norbert> 21.4.14 so you'll have to explicitly activate them. He's Norbert> committed a patch to document this, uh, yesterday? OK. I thought it looked strange with the =no when I looked through the configure --help info. Well this would explain it. I guess there is some reason behind this default but it do seem like customize and jde-mode (and more?) packages get slightly brooken by this new default. Yours -- %% Mats From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 04:49:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAK9n1v03732; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:49:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK9mWH03635 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:48:32 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAK9mCm03579 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:48:12 -0500 Received: from mail2.kuka-roboter.de (mail2.kuka-roboter.de [213.179.131.84]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAK9mBv03572 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:48:11 -0500 Received: from no.name.available by mail2.kuka-roboter.de via smtpd (for xemacs.org [199.184.165.136]) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:49:11 +0000 Received: from 192.168.249.1 by mailscan.roboter.kuka.de (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:40:19 +0100 Received: from rents2.roboter.kuka.de by [192.168.249.1] via smtpd (for [192.168.249.2]) with SMTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:49:00 +0000 Received: by rents2.roboter.kuka.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:47:59 +0100 Message-ID: <4B18CCB3B2CE3E47B535A62EF86860712174CC@kramail2.roboter.kuka.de> From: Roland Frank To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cannot open some files Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:52:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Dear Bug Team! I run from time to time into trouble opening some files. I can not figure out why it works for a while and then stops to work (means I can edit a file and safe and the other day I cannot open it again). I put on debug-on-error and got the following output: Signaling: (args-out-of-range # 25497 25504) signal(args-out-of-range (# 25497 25504)) byte-code("..." [buf data kill-buffer signal] 3) find-file-noselect("D:\\Eigene Dateien\\code\\hcs12\\SafeRdw\\Sources\\isr.c") default-dir-real-find-file("D:\\Eigene Dateien\\code\\hcs12\\SafeRdw\\Sources\\isr.c") #("D:\\Eigene Dateien\\code\\hcs12\\SafeRdw\\Sources\\isr.c") call-interactively(find-file) #() call-interactively(toolbar-open) The same problem occured with opening recent-files, where he complained about a gui item with following debug output: Signaling: (syntax-error "GUI item produces too long displayable string" "%_a ~\\Austausch\\docu\\ebooks\\Prozessor\\MC\\Motorola\\HCS12\\examples\\OS - A Real Time Operationg System for The MC68HC11\\Os\\semantic.cache") recursive-edit() byte-code("..." [print-escape-newlines print-length debugger-buffer debugger-value standard-output debugger-args pop-to-buffer erase-buffer t 50 backtrace debugger-mode re-search-forward "\n[* ] debug(" 1 debugger-reenable (lambda debug) "Entering:\n" debug backtrace-debug 3 delete-char ?* 0 exit "Return value: " prin1 ?\n ?\ error "Signaling: " "Beginning evaluation of function call form:\n" nil message "" recursive-edit buffer-read-only inhibit-trace] 3) debug(error (args-out-of-range # 25497 25504)) signal(args-out-of-range (# 25497 25504)) byte-code("..." [buf data kill-buffer signal] 3) find-file-noselect("D:\\Eigene Dateien\\code\\hcs12\\SafeRdw\\Sources\\isr.c") default-dir-real-find-file("D:\\Eigene Dateien\\code\\hcs12\\SafeRdw\\Sources\\isr.c") #("D:\\Eigene Dateien\\code\\hcs12\\SafeRdw\\Sources\\isr.c") call-interactively(find-file) #() call-interactively(toolbar-open) What's the problem, what can I do? Kind regards, Frank ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in "d:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4-release\\nt". Using compiler "cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML". Installing XEmacs in "c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.13". Package path is "~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using portable dumper. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (d:\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\autorevert c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\edit-utils\autorevert d:\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\pc-select c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\pc\pc-select d:\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\tq c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\xemacs-base\tq d:\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\custom c:\Programme\XEmacs\XEmacs\lisp\custom c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\build\build-report c:\Programme\XEmacs\XEmacs\lisp\build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular) (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.14 :type regular) (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 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Args out of range: #, 25497, 25504 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 05:33:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKAX2v13987; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:33:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKAWX813850 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:32:33 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKAWVH13838 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:32:31 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKAWTv13833 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:32:29 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMm6o-0008ES-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:32:22 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [comp.emacs.xemacs] etags.el (21.4.14) does not recognize C++ member definitions Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:32:22 +0900 Message-ID: <87fzgj2uvd.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Anybody know? --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Path: uni-berlin.de!atmistral7.informatik.tu-muenchen.DE!not-for-mail From: newsspam4@robf.de Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: etags.el (21.4.14) does not recognize C++ member definitions Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:12:43 +0100 Lines: 25 Message-ID: <86ekw4ftfo.fsf@robf.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: atmistral7.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (131.159.17.40) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1069243968 58016904 131.159.17.40 (16 [195195]) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:a9Dorw7zQkD6S1PVW7RXMqiazFM= Xref: uni-berlin.de comp.emacs.xemacs:73766 MIME-Version: 1.0 With etags from 21.4.14 called like etags --lang=c++ --members on my C++ sources I get a TAGS file like NNQuery::NNQuery(354,8727 APNNQuery::APNNQuery(360,8830 but `find-tag' does not show me the definitions of C++ class members as it does not recognize them. This can be fixed by setting `tags-def-pattern' to include ":" as follows. ;; fix problems with unrecognized C++ tags due to missing ":" in regexp (defconst tags-def-pattern ;; old ;; "\\(.*[ \t]+\\)?\\**\\(\\(\\sw\\|\\s_\\)+\\)[ ();,\t]*\C-?" ;; new "\\(.*[ \t]+\\)?\\**\\(\\(\\sw\\|\\s_\\|:\\)+\\)[ ();,\t]*\C-?" ) But I wonder if there is another way of doing this or is it really a bug? Bye Robert. --=-=-= -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 06:24:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKBO2v26219; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:24:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKBNMq26017 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:23:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKBMpf25893 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:22:51 -0500 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru (pluton.ispras.ru [195.208.53.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAKBMev25852 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:22:51 -0500 Received: (qmail 49556 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2003 10:59:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truba.ispras.ru) (195.208.32.41) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 20 Nov 2003 10:59:15 -0000 Received: from truba.ispras.ru (root@localhost) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAKBJtJM020053 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:19:55 +0300 Received: from nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (nord.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.175]) by truba.ispras.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAKBJtZt020040; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:19:55 +0300 Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [195.208.53.150]) by nord.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAKBRi701347; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:27:44 +0300 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [comp.emacs.xemacs] etags.el (21.4.14) does not recognize C++ member definitions References: <87fzgj2uvd.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: npak@ispras.ru (Nickolay Pakoulin) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:22:35 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87fzgj2uvd.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:32:22 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (beets, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , One more stone against tags-def-pattern. (XEmacs 21.5) Adding a new language to etags.el is a pain :( I found no obvious ways of where and how to customize in etags.el in order to add support for a new language. Had to hack it and re-write for my needs :( May be I'm missing something? Nick. intro: "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: SJT> Anybody know? SJT> From: newsspam4@robf.de Subject: etags.el (21.4.14) does SJT> not recognize C++ member definitions Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Date: SJT> Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:12:43 +0100 SJT> With etags from 21.4.14 called like SJT> etags --lang=c++ --members SJT> on my C++ sources I get a TAGS file like SJT> NNQuery::NNQuery(354,8727 APNNQuery::APNNQuery(360,8830 SJT> but `find-tag' does not show me the definitions of C++ class members as SJT> it does not recognize them. This can be fixed by setting SJT> `tags-def-pattern' to include ":" as follows. SJT> ;; fix problems with unrecognized C++ tags due to missing ":" in regexp SJT> (defconst tags-def-pattern SJT> ;; old "\\(.*[ \t]+\\)?\\**\\(\\(\\sw\\|\\s_\\)+\\)[ ();,\t]*\C-?" new SJT> "\\(.*[ \t]+\\)?\\**\\(\\(\\sw\\|\\s_\\|:\\)+\\)[ ();,\t]*\C-?" ) SJT> But I wonder if there is another way of doing this or is it really a SJT> bug? SJT> Bye Robert. ---------- SJT> -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences SJT> http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 SJT> Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; SJT> ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 10:48:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKFm7v32515; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:48:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKFlM532371 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:47:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKFl8F32325 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:47:08 -0500 Received: from rent.teradyne.com (rent.teradyne.com [198.51.251.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKFl1v32300; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:47:01 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by rent.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10207; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kiki.icd.teradyne.com (kiki.icd.teradyne.com [131.101.10.126]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA02542; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from denver.icd.teradyne.com (denver [131.101.18.106]) by kiki.icd.teradyne.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24152; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from shelton@localhost) by denver.icd.teradyne.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id hAKFkxf12560; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:46:59 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: denver.icd.teradyne.com: shelton set sender to acs@xemacs.org using -f To: Mats Lidell Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] Where are the buffertabs in recent CVS 21.4.14? References: From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:46:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Mats Lidell's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:22:42 +0100") Message-ID: <5457k1vt53g.fsf@xemacs.org> Lines: 34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Mats Lidell writes: >>>>>> Norbert wrote: > > Norbert> Vin wrote on c.e.x that --with-widgets=no is default since > Norbert> 21.4.14 so you'll have to explicitly activate them. He's > Norbert> committed a patch to document this, uh, yesterday? > > OK. I thought it looked strange with the =no when I looked through the > configure --help info. Well this would explain it. > > I guess there is some reason behind this default but it do seem like > customize and jde-mode (and more?) packages get slightly brooken by > this new default. Mats, This was actually (lightly) documented in the release notes: http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.4.14.html The reasoning is that the widgets cause way more problems than they are worth, under Unix at least. FWIW, I run with buffer tabs under Windows, and they largely work. > it does seem like > customize and jde-mode (and more?) packages get slightly brooken by > this new default. Can you explain? AFAIK, no modes should depend on the existence of buffer tabs. -- In a minute there is time For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. T.S. Eliot [URL: http://www.cs.amherst.edu/~ccm/prufrock.html] From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 16:45:06 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKLhLv29143; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:43:21 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKLg5n28876 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:42:05 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKLfoT28824 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:41:50 -0500 Received: from knock.econ.vt.edu (knock.econ.vt.edu [128.173.172.240]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKLfnv28820 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:41:49 -0500 Received: from knock.econ.vt.edu (rdmurphy@localhost.private.vt.edu [127.0.0.1]) by knock.econ.vt.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAKLfn6M017564 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:41:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rdmurphy@knock.econ.vt.edu) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by knock.econ.vt.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hAKLfnet017561; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:41:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rdmurphy) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:41:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200311202141.hAKLfnet017561@knock.econ.vt.edu> From: "Russell D. Murphy Jr." To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.14] Fatal crash Reply-to: rdmurphy@vt.edu X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I had xemacs crash when opening a new file. I did: C-x C-f, specified the new file name (smyth-seats.awk) and it died completely. I'm running windowmaker with gnome (gnome2-2.4.0, installed from the FreeBSD ports system). The xemacs window just disappeared. I have xemacs start up on login; the following is from .xsession-errors: -------------------------------------------------- Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. Your version of XEmacs was distributed with a PROBLEMS file that may describe your crash, and with luck a workaround. Please check it first, but do report the crash anyway. Please report this bug by invoking M-x report-emacs-bug, or by selecting `Send Bug Report' from the Help menu. If necessary, send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the XEmacs configuration from M-x describe-installation, or equivalently the file Installation in the top of the build tree. *Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are unlikely to be able to analyze the problem. Locate the core file produced as a result of this crash (often called `core' or `core.', and located in the directory in which you started XEmacs or your home directory), and type gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core then type `where' at the debugger prompt. No GDB on your system? You may have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. (Ask your system administrator if you need help.) If no core file was produced, enable them (often with `ulimit -c unlimited' in case of future recurrance of the crash. Lisp backtrace follows: awk-mode() # bind (alist mode name keep-going) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (just-from-file-name) set-auto-mode() byte-code("..." [set-auto-mode t] 1) # (condition-case ... . ((error (byte-code "ÁÂÃ!\"ˆÄ‡" ... 4)))) # bind (find-file) normal-mode(t) # bind (nomodes after-find-file-from-revert-buffer noauto warn error) after-find-file(t t) byte-code("..." [buffer-file-number number truename buffer-file-truename buf buffer-file-name set-buffer-major-mode erase-buffer nil (byte-code "«‡Â Ã\"ˆª…Ä Ã\"ˆÂ‡" [rawfile filename insert-file-contents-literally t insert-file-contents] 3) ((file-error ...)) abbreviate-file-name file-name-directory make-local-variable backup-inhibited t after-find-file find-file-use-truenames default-directory backup-enable-predicate rawfile error nowarn] 3) # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code "Â!ˆÃ @ A\"‡" ... 3)))) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (error number truename buf rawfile nowarn filename) find-file-noselect("~/teaching/current/ec2005/grades/exam3/smyth-seats.awk") # bind (codesys filename) find-file("~/teaching/current/ec2005/grades/exam3/smyth-seats.awk" nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(find-file) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) -------------------------------------------------- I do have a core file. The following is what I get from redirecting: gdb -batch -x xemacs.core.gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs xemacs-21.4.14.core to a file (xemacs.core.gdb just contains "where"): -------------------------------------------------- (no debugging symbols found)...Core was generated by `xemacs-21.4.14'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... #0 0x286ddbbf in kill () from /lib/libc.so.5 #0 0x286ddbbf in kill () from /lib/libc.so.5 #1 0x080a21a1 in fatal_error_signal () #2 #3 0x08087158 in funcall_compiled_function () #4 0x08086f9e in funcall_compiled_function () #5 0x080a97fd in Ffuncall () #6 0x08087295 in funcall_compiled_function () #7 0x08086f9e in funcall_compiled_function () #8 0x080a97fd in Ffuncall () #9 0x08087295 in funcall_compiled_function () #10 0x080894e8 in Fbyte_code () #11 0x080a90a5 in Feval () #12 0x080a682f in condition_case_1 () #13 0x080a6ac4 in condition_case_3 () #14 0x08087a89 in execute_rare_opcode () #15 0x08087130 in funcall_compiled_function () #16 0x08086f9e in funcall_compiled_function () #17 0x080a97fd in Ffuncall () #18 0x08087295 in funcall_compiled_function () #19 0x08086f9e in funcall_compiled_function () #20 0x080a97fd in Ffuncall () #21 0x08087295 in funcall_compiled_function () #22 0x080894e8 in Fbyte_code () #23 0x080a90a5 in Feval () #24 0x080a682f in condition_case_1 () #25 0x080a6ac4 in condition_case_3 () #26 0x08087a89 in execute_rare_opcode () #27 0x08087130 in funcall_compiled_function () #28 0x08086f9e in funcall_compiled_function () #29 0x080a97fd in Ffuncall () #30 0x08087295 in funcall_compiled_function () #31 0x08086f9e in funcall_compiled_function () #32 0x080a97fd in Ffuncall () #33 0x0808ab25 in Fcall_interactively () #34 0x080a8711 in Fcommand_execute () #35 0x080d048c in extract_vector_nth_mouse_event () #36 0x080d0a4f in Fdispatch_event () #37 0x0808f189 in Fcommand_loop_1 () #38 0x0808f019 in Frecursive_edit () #39 0x080a682f in condition_case_1 () #40 0x0808ebea in Freally_early_error_handler () #41 0x0808ec1b in Freally_early_error_handler () #42 0x080a648f in internal_catch () #43 0x0808ed7c in initial_command_loop () #44 0x080a32bc in xemacs_21_4_14_i386 () #45 0x080a3a8a in main () #46 0x0807b562 in _start () -------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps. I've used xemacs for the last few years (and emacs before that) and have seldom (never?) had it crash like this. I have noticed that there are odd interactions between my current installation of mozilla (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031107) and my current installation of xemacs. Perhaps once a week, xemacs will stop responding and will print messages to .xsession-errors indicating a X event(?) problem. If I can give you any more information, please let me know. Russ Murphy ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: FreeBSD knock.econ.vt.edu 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #1: Fri Oct 24 15:13:56 EDT 2003 root@knock.econ.vt.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KNOCK i386 ./configure '--with-clash-detection' '--with-sound=native,nonas,noesd' '--site-includes=/usr/local/include' '--site-libraries=/usr/local/lib' '--with-ldap=no' '--with-site-lisp' '--with-database=berkdb' '--x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib' '--x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include' '--prefix=/usr/local' 'i386--freebsd' XEmacs 21.4.14 "Reasonable Discussion" configured for `i386--freebsd'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/ports/editors/xemacs/work/xemacs-21.4.14 Installation prefix: /usr/local Additional header files: /usr/local/include Additional libraries: /usr/local/lib Runtime library search path: /usr/local/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib Operating system description file: `s/freebsd.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes Linking with `-z nocombreloc'. - Consider configuring with --pdump. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for Motif. *WARNING* Many versions of Motif are buggy, requiring workarounds. You are likely to experience slow redisplay. You may need to install vendor patches to Motif. See PROBLEMS for more information. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "flock" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.14/lisp/build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular) (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.14 :type regular) (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) (time :version 1.13 :type regular) (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.63 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.24 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) (sml-mode :version 0.09 :type regular) (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular) (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular) (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.3 :type regular) (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular) (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .83 :type single-file) (pgg :version 1.03 :type regular) (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular) (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.23 :type regular) (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.6 :type regular) (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (efs :version 1.29 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.18 :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.1 :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.13 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.39 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 font disp-table paren blink-paren blink-cursor cal-china lunar cal-islam cal-hebrew holidays cal-move cal-xemacs cal-x solar cal-dst cal-persia cal-julian efs-cu diary-lib appt calendar ess-mous mouseme thingatpt browse-url essl-bug essd-omg essl-omg essd-els essd-sas essl-sas essa-sas shell essd-arc essd-vst essd-xls essl-lsp essd-sta essl-sta make-regexp essd-sp6 essd-sp5 essd-sp3 essd-s4 essd-r ess-menu imenu essl-s ess-inf ess-utils comint ring ess-mode noweb-mode ess advice advice-preload ess-cust font-lock ess-emcs ess-site tex-site env time cus-face zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type berkeley-unix dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- ESC x r e p o SPC r SPC e SPC SPC RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Parsing /homes/rdmurphy/.mailrc... Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Making completion list... Loading font...done Fontifying *scratch*... done. Loading font... Paren mode is blink-paren Loading paren...done Loading paren... Loading blink-cursor...done Loading blink-cursor... Preparing diary...done Fontifying *scratch*... (syntactically). Fontifying *scratch*... Preparing diary... Preparing diary... Preparing diary... Preparing diary... Preparing diary... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 17:28:22 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKMSLv07937; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:28:21 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKMRv707840 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:57 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKMRqV07809 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:52 -0500 Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu (stephens.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKMRpv07805 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:51 -0500 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu (diannao.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.126.112]) by stephens.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/ITTC-ANTISPAM-ANTIVIRUS-3.0) with ESMTP id hAKMR7jb017214; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:27:07 -0600 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/KU-4.0-client) id hAKMR7Zm028125; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:27:07 -0600 Received: (from james@localhost) by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAKMR7bD028123; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:27:07 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: diannao.ittc.ku.edu: james set sender to james@eecs.ku.edu using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: Kyle Jones Subject: Package building problems (xslide & vm) From: Jerry James X-Face: +5(Pfr,;N>q#6NT,Qi5^TQh-MaUnz#kGN~OW[CQj~RS+sIor( '_8K^f9u^Y#.N`>9oKN$\JpI Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:27:06 -0600 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-VirusScan: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I'm doing a small sync with Emacs 21.3 to pick up some new features of define-minor-mode that they have. I think that part is done. I am now trying to build the packages to I can check whether my sync messed anything up. I am compiling with a MULE-enabled XEmacs. I am encountering two problems. (1) When compiling the packages with XEmacs 21.4.14 on a Linux box with 1GB RAM and after doing "unlimit stacksize", the make is bombing out like this: make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/xslide' xemacs -no-autoloads -vanilla -batch -eval '(setq stack-trace-on-error t load-ignore-out-of-date-elc-files t load-show-full-path-in-messages t)' -l /usr/src/xemacs/packages/package-compile.el -- ispell mail-lib xemacs-base -- -l cus-face -l regexp-opt -l font-lock -l sendmail -l xslide-data -l xslide-abbrev -l xslide-font -l xslide-process -l xslide -f batch-byte-compile auto-autoloads.el Loading /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.14/lisp/auto-autoloads... Loading /usr/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads... Loading /usr/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib/auto-autoloads... Loading /usr/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ispell/auto-autoloads... # bind ( stack-trace-on-signal debug-on-signal stack-trace-on-error debug-on-error) signal(error ("Stack overflow in regexp matcher")) # bind (data error-symbol) signal-error(error ("Stack overflow in regexp matcher")) # bind (error-data) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Stack overflow in regexp matcher xemacs exiting . make[2]: *** [auto-autoloads.elc] Error 255 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/xslide' make[1]: *** [xslide/bytecompile.target] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages' make: *** [xemacs-packages/bytecompile.target] Error 2 Trying that part of the compile by hand, I found that the overflow is occurring while loading xslide-font, on line 191, while doing this: (regexp-opt-depth xsl-fo-attribute-symbol-alist-regexp) where xsl-fo-attribute-symbol-alist-regexp was just produced by regexp-opt. This does not happen when building with XEmacs 21.5.16. (2) The build crashes in hyperbole, because hvm.el calls vm-set-modflag-of, which vm/vm-autoload.el claims is defined in vm-message.el. It isn't. From: http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200309/msg00011.html I gather that the call in the hyperbole code should be changed to vm-set-stuff-flag-of, and that vm-autoload.el should be fixed. -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 18:26:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKNQ2v21434; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:26:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKNPGl21296 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:25:16 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAKNPE221277 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:25:14 -0500 Received: from carbon.WonderWorks.com (carbon.WonderWorks.com [192.203.206.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAKNPDv21273; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:25:13 -0500 Received: by carbon.WonderWorks.com id hAKNPCiC026333; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:25:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16317.19800.379958.488386@carbon.wonderworks.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:25:12 -0800 From: Kyle Jones To: Jerry James Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Package building problems (xslide & vm) In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.18 under 21.4 (patch 8) "Honest Recruiter" XEmacs Lucid X-Face: /cA45WHG7jWq>(O3&Z57Y<"WsX5ddc,4c#w0F*zrV#=M 0@~@,s;b,aMtR5Sqs"+nU.z^CSFQ9t`z2>W,S,]:[+2^ Nbf6v4g>!&,7R4Ot4Wg{&tm=WX7P["9%a)_da48-^tGy ,qz]Z,Zz\{E.,]'EO+F)@$KtF&V X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jerry James writes: > (2) The build crashes in hyperbole, because hvm.el calls > vm-set-modflag-of, which vm/vm-autoload.el claims is defined in > vm-message.el. It isn't. From: > > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200309/msg00011.html > > I gather that the call in the hyperbole code should be changed to > vm-set-stuff-flag-of, and that vm-autoload.el should be fixed. vm-autoload.el is machine generated. 'make' must not have been run in a while. Let's remove VM from the XEmacs package tree. If folks want the VM package, they can download it from VM's distribution sites. Is there a way the package index can specify a different download location for a package? From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 19:14:19 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL0E1v32291; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:14:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL0DVn32205 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:13:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL0DI932164 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:13:18 -0500 Received: from gizmo04ps.bigpond.com (gizmo04ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.14]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAL0DHv32158 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:13:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 19153 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2003 00:12:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO eicq.dnsalias.org) (144.135.25.87) by gizmo04ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2003 00:12:43 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by psmam07bpa.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_3_2d 125/3911682); 21 Nov 2003 10:13:09 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAL0D5dj000950; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:13:05 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Cc: Kyle Jones Subject: Re: Package building problems (xslide & vm) Keywords: package,download References: <16317.19800.379958.488386@carbon.wonderworks.com> From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta , Kyle Jones Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:13:00 +1000 In-Reply-To: <16317.19800.379958.488386@carbon.wonderworks.com> (Kyle Jones's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:25:12 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "KJ" == Kyle Jones writes: KJ> Let's remove VM from the XEmacs package tree. Why would you want to do that? KJ> Is there a way the package index can specify a different download KJ> location for a package? No. The package index doesn't specify download locations. And with the current implementation of PUI, using multiple download locations in the one invocation is fraught with danger. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj+9WI8ACgkQHSfbS6lLMAN2TACfdmDozj9QrFO/iHbwcU+I4Or2 UDMAoI2D9l2YU/dVCMeOGWm61RNMeKc4 =9vnN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 19:57:19 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL0v6v09562; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:57:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL0u1O09343 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:56:01 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL0tx409328 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:55:59 -0500 Received: from smtp2.pp.htv.fi (smtp2.pp.htv.fi [213.243.153.14]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL0twv09313 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:55:59 -0500 Received: from posti.pp.htv.fi (posti.pp.htv.fi [212.90.64.50]) by smtp2.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE68297043 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:55:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from [62.78.134.79] (cs78134079.pp.htv.fi [62.78.134.79]) by posti.pp.htv.fi (8.11.1 (Revision 1.5+JAGae91741+JAGae92668) /8.11.1) with ESMTP id hAL0tlu11153 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:55:49 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: Package building problems (xslide & vm) From: Ville =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Skytt=E4?= To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Message-Id: <1069376147.2439.296.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:55:47 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 00:27, Jerry James wrote: > (1) When compiling the packages with XEmacs 21.4.14 on a Linux box with > 1GB RAM and after doing "unlimit stacksize", the make is bombing out > like this: [...] > signal(error ("Stack overflow in regexp matcher")) I saw this too (xslide, 21.4.14, Linux), following Vin's tip cured it: http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200310/msg00480.html From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 20:16:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL1G1v14223; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:16:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL1FLX13850 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:15:21 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL1FJZ13796 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:15:19 -0500 Received: from carbon.WonderWorks.com (carbon.WonderWorks.com [192.203.206.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL1FIv13779 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:15:18 -0500 Received: by carbon.WonderWorks.com id hAL1FEcs026938; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:15:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16317.26401.957897.320823@carbon.wonderworks.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:15:13 -0800 From: Kyle Jones To: Steve Youngs Cc: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Package building problems (xslide & vm) In-Reply-To: References: <16317.19800.379958.488386@carbon.wonderworks.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.18 under 21.4 (patch 8) "Honest Recruiter" XEmacs Lucid X-Face: /cA45WHG7jWq>(O3&Z57Y<"WsX5ddc,4c#w0F*zrV#=M 0@~@,s;b,aMtR5Sqs"+nU.z^CSFQ9t`z2>W,S,]:[+2^ Nbf6v4g>!&,7R4Ot4Wg{&tm=WX7P["9%a)_da48-^tGy ,qz]Z,Zz\{E.,]'EO+F)@$KtF&V X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > |--==> "KJ" == Kyle Jones writes: > > KJ> Let's remove VM from the XEmacs package tree. > > Why would you want to do that? We could get rid of the synchronization problems and extra work by dropping the XEmacs distribution path. I already create an XEmacs package for each VM release and VM already has multiple distribution sites. > KJ> Is there a way the package index can specify a different download > KJ> location for a package? > > No. The package index doesn't specify download locations. And with > the current implementation of PUI, using multiple download locations in > the one invocation is fraught with danger. Too bad. I rather like the way the FreeBSD ports system works. The official source tarball is downloaded from its normal place on the net and then any FreeBSD-specific patches are applied. Finally the package is built and installed. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 21:01:16 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL213v24395; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:01:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL20p024328 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:00:51 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL20mE24305 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:00:48 -0500 Received: from gizmo03ps.bigpond.com (gizmo03ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.13]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAL20kv24290 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:00:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 10033 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2003 02:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO eicq.dnsalias.org) (144.135.25.91) by gizmo03ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2003 02:00:11 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by psmam08bpa.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_3_2c 153/3953751); 21 Nov 2003 12:00:34 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAL20WRe003144; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:00:32 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Cc: Kyle Jones Subject: Re: Package building problems (xslide & vm) Keywords: xemacs,package,kyle,jones,distribution,extra References: <16317.19800.379958.488386@carbon.wonderworks.com> <16317.26401.957897.320823@carbon.wonderworks.com> From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta , Kyle Jones Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:00:30 +1000 In-Reply-To: <16317.26401.957897.320823@carbon.wonderworks.com> (Kyle Jones's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:15:13 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "KJ" == Kyle Jones writes: KJ> Steve Youngs writes: >>|--==> "KJ" == Kyle Jones writes: >> KJ> Let's remove VM from the XEmacs package tree. >> >>Why would you want to do that? KJ> We could get rid of the synchronization problems and extra work KJ> by dropping the XEmacs distribution path. I already create an KJ> XEmacs package for each VM release and VM already has multiple KJ> distribution sites. But what about the packages in the XEmacs tree that have a dependence on VM? A quick `igrep-find' reveals that BBDB, MailCrypt, TM, and Hyperbole all need VM. I'm sure that I could automate much of (if not all of) the extra work involved in you being able to keep the XEmacs VM in sync with your master copy. Then having the extra distribution path would be a good thing, no? KJ> Is there a way the package index can specify a different download KJ> location for a package? >> >>No. KJ> Too bad. I rather like the way the FreeBSD ports system works. KJ> The official source tarball is downloaded from its normal place KJ> on the net and then any FreeBSD-specific patches are applied. KJ> Finally the package is built and installed. Yeah, the FreeBSD system is pretty cool. The thing about the XEmacs packages is that they are built _before_ distribution, not after. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj+9ccAACgkQHSfbS6lLMAMWcQCfaav5UQSQoBgwVpY3gepy+RNY uu4AnRkD45HoJa4R0mMIIaBszSgVdPBa =Tg0t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 21:40:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL2e4v00476; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:40:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL2Z2U32013 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:35:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL2YlW31978 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:34:47 -0500 Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu (stephens.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL2Ykv31972; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0500 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu (diannao.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.126.112]) by stephens.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/ITTC-ANTISPAM-ANTIVIRUS-3.0) with ESMTP id hAL2YXjb029956; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:34:33 -0600 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/KU-4.0-client) id hAL2YXZm004017; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:34:33 -0600 Received: (from james@localhost) by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAL2YWEB004015; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:34:32 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: diannao.ittc.ku.edu: james set sender to james@eecs.ku.edu using -f To: Ville Skyttä Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Package building problems (xslide & vm) References: <1069376147.2439.296.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> From: Jerry James X-Face: +5(Pfr,;N>q#6NT,Qi5^TQh-MaUnz#kGN~OW[CQj~RS+sIor( '_8K^f9u^Y#.N`>9oKN$\JpI Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:34:32 -0600 In-Reply-To: <1069376147.2439.296.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> (Ville Skytt's message of "Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:55:47 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-VirusScan: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hAL2Ykv31972 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Ville Skyttä wrote: > I saw this too (xslide, 21.4.14, Linux), following Vin's tip cured it: > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200310/msg00480.html Ah, great. Thank you! -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 20 22:17:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL3H2v09099; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:17:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL3GiN09036 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:16:44 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL3GUt08987 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:16:30 -0500 Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu (stephens.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL3GTv08982 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:16:29 -0500 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu (diannao.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.126.112]) by stephens.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/ITTC-ANTISPAM-ANTIVIRUS-3.0) with ESMTP id hAL3GIjb032055 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:18 -0600 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/KU-4.0-client) id hAL3GIZm004085; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:18 -0600 Received: (from james@localhost) by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAL3GHHY004083; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:17 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: diannao.ittc.ku.edu: james set sender to james@eecs.ku.edu using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Future package: proposed content From: Jerry James X-Face: +5(Pfr,;N>q#6NT,Qi5^TQh-MaUnz#kGN~OW[CQj~RS+sIor( '_8K^f9u^Y#.N`>9oKN$\JpI Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:17 -0600 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-VirusScan: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Are there any plans to create the "back to the future" package, with stuff that older XEmacsen need for forward compatibility? I've synced up xemacs-base/easy-mmode.el with Emacs 21.3, and it works great with current 21.5 CVS. However, older XEmacsen won't be able to use it, due to 2 missing functions, and an older version of a 3rd. In particular, I need to make the xemacs-base package depend on the future package, and the future package needs to contain something like this: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ;; This function is defined in subr.el for XEmacs >= 21.5.7 (if (not (fboundp 'propertize)) (defun propertize (string &rest properties) "Return a copy of STRING with text properties added. First argument is the string to copy. Remaining arguments form a sequence of PROPERTY VALUE pairs for text properties to add to the result." (let ((str (copy-sequence string))) (add-text-properties 0 (length str) properties str) str))) ;; This function is defined in subr.el for XEmacs >= 21.5.12 (if (not (fboundp 'replace-regexp-in-string)) (defun replace-regexp-in-string (regexp rep string &optional fixedcase literal subexp start) "Replace all matches for REGEXP with REP in STRING. Return a new string containing the replacements. Optional arguments FIXEDCASE, LITERAL and SUBEXP are like the arguments with the same names of function `replace-match'. If START is non-nil, start replacements at that index in STRING. REP is either a string used as the NEWTEXT arg of `replace-match' or a function. If it is a function it is applied to each match to generate the replacement passed to `replace-match'; the match-data at this point are such that match 0 is the function's argument. To replace only the first match (if any), make REGEXP match up to \\' and replace a sub-expression, e.g. (replace-regexp-in-string \"\\(foo\\).*\\'\" \"bar\" \" foo foo\" nil nil 1) => \" bar foo\" " (let ((l (length string)) (start (or start 0)) matches str mb me) (save-match-data (while (and (< start l) (string-match regexp string start)) (setq mb (match-beginning 0) me (match-end 0)) ;; If we matched the empty string, make sure we advance by one char (when (= me mb) (setq me (min l (1+ mb)))) ;; Generate a replacement for the matched substring. ;; Operate only on the substring to minimize string consing. ;; Set up match data for the substring for replacement; ;; presumably this is likely to be faster than munging the ;; match data directly in Lisp. (string-match regexp (setq str (substring string mb me))) (setq matches (cons (replace-match (if (stringp rep) rep (funcall rep (match-string 0 str))) fixedcase literal str subexp) (cons (substring string start mb) ; unmatched prefix matches))) (setq start me)) ;; Reconstruct a string from the pieces. (setq matches (cons (substring string start l) matches)) ; leftover (apply #'concat (nreverse matches)))))) ;; This function is defined in core. ;; It has the 3rd argument in XEmacs >= 21.5.16. (when (eq (function-max-args #'pos-visible-in-window-p) 2) (fset 'pos-visible-in-window-p `(lambda (&optional pos window partially) "Returns t if position POS is currently on the frame in WINDOW. Returns nil if that position is scrolled vertically out of view. If a character is only partially visible, nil is returned, unless the optional argument PARTIALLY is non-nil. POS defaults to point in WINDOW's buffer; WINDOW, to the selected window." (funcall ,(symbol-function 'pos-visible-in-window-p) pos window)))) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Once that is in place, we can put the easy-mmode.el patch into place. I've seen several Lisp packages now that use the new functionality, so we need this patch before they can be ported to XEmacs. -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 01:34:15 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL6Y5v12738; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:34:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL6X9312569 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:33:09 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL6WhM12503 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:32:43 -0500 Received: from washington.hostforweb.net (washington.hostforweb.net [69.61.11.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL6Whv12499 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:32:43 -0500 Received: from yamaoka by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AN4qX-0006hm-6G; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:32:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:32:08 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: emacs-w3m@namazu.org Subject: [21.5] call-process-region problem Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VDCehRF7dhCfu/V8lrlZnO3AzPU= X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031121:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:2abe62caa8a10633 X-Hashcash: 0:031121:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:2abe62caa8a10633 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031121:emacs-w3m@namazu.org:287a3bc49d95e315 X-Hashcash: 0:031121:emacs-w3m@namazu.org:287a3bc49d95e315 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32041 32041] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - washington.hostforweb.net X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, Although it may be a known problem, I think it is evil that the call-process-region function requires the point to have to be in the beginning or the end position when the 4th arg DELETEP is t. It simply erases the buffer's contents when that requirement is not satisfied. For instance: (with-temp-buffer (insert "Hello World") (goto-char 2) (call-process-region (point-min) (point-max) "cat" t t) (buffer-string)) => "" Such an accident does not happen in Emacs or XEmacs 21.4. For this reason, emacs-w3m has not run on XEmacs 21.5 since 2002-05-28 (but it will run by the end of today). I attach a patch, although it may be too late. 2003-11-21 Katsumi Yamaoka * code-process.el (call-process-region): Move point to end of region when DELETEP is non-nil. --- code-process.el~ 2002-11-10 22:07:29 +0000 +++ code-process.el 2003-11-21 06:30:19 +0000 @@ -173,6 +173,8 @@ ;; of the region. (let ((s (and deletep (copy-marker start t))) (e (and deletep (copy-marker end)))) + (if deletep + (goto-char end)) (let ((retval (apply #'call-process program (list (current-buffer) start end) buffer displayp args))) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 03:23:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL8N1v01261; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:23:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL8MP401183 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:22:25 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL8MOE01173 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:22:24 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAL8MNv01159 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:22:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 25560 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2003 09:22:21 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.11) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 21 Nov 2003 09:22:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 25240 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2003 09:22:20 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 21 Nov 2003 09:22:20 +0100 To: Katsumi Yamaoka Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-w3m@namazu.org Subject: Re: [21.5] call-process-region problem References: From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:24:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:32:08 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > Although it may be a known problem, I think it is evil that the > call-process-region function requires the point to have to be in > the beginning or the end position when the 4th arg DELETEP is t. It sounds like a bug. > It simply erases the buffer's contents when that requirement is > not satisfied. Why does that happen? The code looks like it's trying to correctly track deletions and insertions by using markers. It could be that your fix hides another bug, elsewhere in the code, but I could be mistaken. What do you think? From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 03:52:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL8q1v08099; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:52:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL8pbc08014 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:51:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAL8pW307988 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:51:32 -0500 Received: from washington.hostforweb.net (washington.hostforweb.net [69.61.11.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAL8pSv07973; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:51:28 -0500 Received: from yamaoka by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AN70h-0004HA-KS; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:51:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:50:53 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: hniksic@xemacs.org Cc: emacs-w3m@namazu.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.5] call-process-region problem References: Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VaYYtPZxOIOc0d/2Boar6tHwzAs= X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031121:hniksic@xemacs.org:e81ebdbf48e30bde X-Hashcash: 0:031121:hniksic@xemacs.org:e81ebdbf48e30bde X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031121:emacs-w3m@namazu.org:429e8d1ad197af91 X-Hashcash: 0:031121:emacs-w3m@namazu.org:429e8d1ad197af91 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031121:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:3dda9b8dba520012 X-Hashcash: 0:031121:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:3dda9b8dba520012 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32041 32041] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - washington.hostforweb.net X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> In [emacs-w3m : No.06092] >>>>> Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >> Although it may be a known problem, I think it is evil that the >> call-process-region function requires the point to have to be in >> the beginning or the end position when the 4th arg DELETEP is t. > It sounds like a bug. >> It simply erases the buffer's contents when that requirement is >> not satisfied. > Why does that happen? The code looks like it's trying to correctly > track deletions and insertions by using markers. It is because call-process-region of that version uses call-process which inserts the output of a process in the point. And it deletes the region which is pointed to by markers, after a process is finished. Markers function rightly. Therefore, they will be erased if the output of a process is inserted within limits which markers point to. > It could be that your fix hides another bug, elsewhere in the code, > but I could be mistaken. What do you think? Probably, the problem is simple and lucid. -- Katsumi Yamaoka From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 05:22:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALAM6v30518; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:22:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALALES30326 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:21:14 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALALBE30313 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:21:11 -0500 Received: from washington.hostforweb.net (washington.hostforweb.net [69.61.11.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALAL8v30302; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:21:08 -0500 Received: from yamaoka by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AN8PT-0007l1-TM; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:21:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:20:32 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: hniksic@xemacs.org Cc: emacs-w3m@namazu.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.5] call-process-region problem References: Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UoxVL3A81AQjHfpq8Kbed1H0bjo= X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031121:hniksic@xemacs.org:d6e1293d95583d7e X-Hashcash: 0:031121:hniksic@xemacs.org:d6e1293d95583d7e X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031121:emacs-w3m@namazu.org:c5faed43554cadde X-Hashcash: 0:031121:emacs-w3m@namazu.org:c5faed43554cadde X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031121:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:778f9d91b4df8712 X-Hashcash: 0:031121:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:778f9d91b4df8712 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32041 32041] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - washington.hostforweb.net X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= >>>>> In Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: > It is because call-process-region of that version uses > call-process which inserts the output of a process in the point. > And it deletes the region which is pointed to by markers, after > a process is finished. Markers function rightly. Therefore, > they will be erased if the output of a process is inserted > within limits which markers point to. Oops! Using markers is needless if the points aren't changed while processing. Here is a new patch: --=-=-= Content-Disposition: inline --- code-process.el~ 2002-11-10 22:07:29 +0000 +++ code-process.el 2003-11-21 10:14:54 +0000 @@ -171,15 +171,13 @@ ;; in the same buffer, make sure we track the insertion, and don't get ;; any of it in the deleted region if insertion happens at either end ;; of the region. - (let ((s (and deletep (copy-marker start t))) - (e (and deletep (copy-marker end)))) - (let ((retval - (apply #'call-process program (list (current-buffer) start end) - buffer displayp args))) - ;; If start and end were the same originally, s will be beyond e now - (if (and deletep (> e s)) - (delete-region s e)) - retval))) + (if deletep + (goto-char end)) + (prog1 + (apply #'call-process program (list (current-buffer) start end) + buffer displayp args) + (if deletep + (delete-region start end)))) (defun start-process (name buffer program &rest program-args) "Start a program in a subprocess. Return the process object for it. --=-=-= Content-Disposition: inline Probably, another function should be made if Ben wanted to write that code for the particular purpose. -- Katsumi Yamaoka --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 09:13:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALED1v22042; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALEC4Y21825 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:12:04 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALEC2k21816 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:12:02 -0500 Received: from pc09.hist.utoronto.ca (pc09.hist.utoronto.ca [128.100.34.9]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALEC2v21812 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:12:02 -0500 Received: from matt by pc09.hist.utoronto.ca with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANC27-0005tU-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:15 -0500 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: colors not working in terminal + movement-hooks Message-ID: <20031121141315.GC10998@utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Matt Price X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hey folks, Not sure if these are bugs -- I'm running xemacs 21.4.6, the debian "testing packages" on a debian "unstable" system. I've just recently migrated to xemacs from FSF emacs, mostly happy with the experience. I'm having a little trouble with colors in the xterm, which I can't seem to activate properly. In FSF emacs, I used mail-mode to compose messages, and it gave me lovely colored highlighting of quoted text, etc. I can't seem to get this to come back, though I have finally been able to get some colors to wok, notably blue for the mode line and red/gold for highlighting marked regions. But the highlighting of, e.g., headers and quoted text in mail (or, now, the modified "post" -- I've tried both) mode, or even of comments in programming modes, eludes me. I'd heard that people have trouble with the default colors in the terminal, so I tried customizing them. No effect. All these features atually work pretty well when xemacs is called without the -nw switch; the trouble arises only in the terminal. Any ideas where I should look? I've posted my .xemacs directory online, at http://www.derailleur.org/xemacs if anyone wants to take a look. Didn't want to send all them files to the whole list, though. Another problem, which I've been able to confirm with other users, has to do with movement-related hooks to modes. For instance, this "post" mode, which was developed for use with mutt, includes a hook moving the cursor to the start of the mail text when the mode is loaded. THis doesn't seem to work most of the time; I have the impression that maybe the command is issued before text is actually read into the buffer. Is there a way to make sure text is in the buffer before actually issuing a command? I think that would solve this problem. Anyway, thanks for your help! matt From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 09:17:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALEH0v23623; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:17:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALEG6523448 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:16:06 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALEFqi23378 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:15:52 -0500 Received: from pc09.hist.utoronto.ca (pc09.hist.utoronto.ca [128.100.34.9]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALEFqv23374 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:15:52 -0500 Received: from matt by pc09.hist.utoronto.ca with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANC5r-0006EH-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:17:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:17:07 -0500 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: colors not working in terminal + movement-hooks Message-ID: <20031121141707.GD10998@utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Matt Price X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hey folks, Not sure if these are bugs -- I'm running xemacs 21.4.6, the debian "testing packages" on a debian "unstable" system. I've just recently migrated to xemacs from FSF emacs, mostly happy with the experience. I'm having a little trouble with colors in the xterm, which I can't seem to activate properly. In FSF emacs, I used mail-mode to compose messages, and it gave me lovely colored highlighting of quoted text, etc. I can't seem to get this to come back, though I have finally been able to get some colors to wok, notably blue for the mode line and red/gold for highlighting marked regions. But the highlighting of, e.g., headers and quoted text in mail (or, now, the modified "post" -- I've tried both) mode, or even of comments in programming modes, eludes me. I'd heard that people have trouble with the default colors in the terminal, so I tried customizing them. No effect. All these features atually work pretty well when xemacs is called without the -nw switch; the trouble arises only in the terminal. Any ideas where I should look? I've posted my .xemacs directory online, at http://www.derailleur.org/xemacs if anyone wants to take a look. Didn't want to send all them files to the whole list, though. Another problem, which I've been able to confirm with other users, has to do with movement-related hooks to modes. For instance, this "post" mode, which was developed for use with mutt, includes a hook moving the cursor to the start of the mail text when the mode is loaded. THis doesn't seem to work most of the time; I have the impression that maybe the command is issued before text is actually read into the buffer. Is there a way to make sure text is in the buffer before actually issuing a command? I think that would solve this problem. Anyway, thanks for your help! matt From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 11:57:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALGv5v30439; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:57:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALGumf30383 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:56:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALGukq30363 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:56:46 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALGukv30359 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:56:46 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23910; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:56:44 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs References: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <3FBA77A3.9070006@civicnet.net> <76oev9jpu8.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> From: Jake Colman Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:56:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Tim Connors's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:10:50 +1100 (EST)") Message-ID: <76y8u9ek37.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "TC" == Tim Connors writes: >> I tried this: >> >> (setq c++-font-lock-keywords >> (append c++-font-lock-keywords >> (list '(".*foreach.*" 1 font-lock-keyword-face t)))) >> TC> Where you by chance getting a "fontifying blah.c... aborted.aborted." TC> message in the modeline? No. I get no error messages. The new kywork simply does not fontify. TC> Try putting brackets around the (1 font-lock-keyword-face t) list. TC> So I have now in one of mine: TC> (setq font-lock-keywords TC> (append font-lock-keywords TC> (list TC> '("\\<\\(d?a?\\(cos\\|sin\\|tan\\|tan\\|tan2\\)\\(deg\\)?\\|d?\\(sqrt\\|sqr\\|exp\\|abs\\|int\\|nint\\|min\\|max\\|sign\\|log\\|log10\\)\\)h?\\>" TC> (0 font-lock-math-face append))))) TC> ) Looking again at how existing keywords (e.g., 'for', 'while') I tried the following: (setq c++-font-lock-keywords (append c++-font-lock-keywords (list '("\\\\([^a-zA-Z0-9_$]\\|$\\)" 1 font-lock-keyword-face t)))) This still does not work. -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 13:13:16 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALID1v15451; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:13:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALICOd15336 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:12:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALICLT15306 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:12:21 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALICKv15297; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:12:20 -0500 Received: from sfwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ANFlS-0008Mn-00; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:12:18 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (bROJnGZOweQkKJ5deGm3nBDNOxLPIcANaDWIFHm4WptmiIEnHRBR6R@[217.89.4.228]) by afwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1ANFlK-03BiAC0; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:12:10 +0100 To: Matt Price Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: colors not working in terminal + movement-hooks X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:12:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031121141707.GD10998@utoronto.ca> (Matt Price's message of "Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:17:07 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: bROJnGZOweQkKJ5deGm3nBDNOxLPIcANaDWIFHm4WptmiIEnHRBR6R X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Price writes: Matt> Any ideas where I should look? I've posted my .xemacs Matt> directory online, at http://www.derailleur.org/xemacs if Matt> anyone wants to take a look. Didn't want to send all them Matt> files to the whole list, though. Hey Matt, I get: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /xemacs/ on this server. Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.derailleur.org Port 80 -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 15:53:27 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALKrEv21174; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:53:14 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALKqhd21072 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:52:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALKqRj21013 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:52:27 -0500 Received: from pc09.hist.utoronto.ca (pc09.hist.utoronto.ca [128.100.34.9]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALKqRv21009 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:52:27 -0500 Received: from matt by pc09.hist.utoronto.ca with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANIHf-0001Oe-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:53:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:53:43 -0500 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: colors not working in terminal + movement-hooks Message-ID: <20031121205343.GA16015@utoronto.ca> References: <20031121141707.GD10998@utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Matt Price X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:12:40PM +0100, Adrian Aichner wrote: > >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Price writes: > > Matt> Any ideas where I should look? I've posted my .xemacs > Matt> directory online, at http://www.derailleur.org/xemacs if > Matt> anyone wants to take a look. Didn't want to send all them > Matt> files to the whole list, though. > > Hey Matt, I get: > > Forbidden > You don't have permission to access /xemacs/ on this server. > Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.derailleur.org Port 80 > Sorry adrian, the permissions should be fixed now. In addition, my color issues seem to have been solved along the way -- I was missing a (require 'font-lock) (setq-default font-lock-maximum-decoration t) sequence. trivial, but EXTREMELY time-consuming. I still have this issue about movement-related hooks. I'd really like for emacs to pop me out underneath the mail headers, rather than above them, but neither I nor other folks on the mutt-user list have had any luck with various solution Many of them work fine after the buffer's have been opened -- for instance, a (mail-text) hook in mail-mode works fine iF I switch to mail-mode from another mode, but if the buffer is initially opened in mail-mode, the cursor tays stuck att he top of the buffer. DOes this sound like a bug of some kind? Any idea how it can be fixed? Thanks, Matt From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 16:19:24 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALLI1v27197; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:18:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALLHxq27178 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:17:59 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALLHig27137 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:17:44 -0500 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALLHev27118; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:17:40 -0500 Received: from sfwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ANIep-0003dw-00; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:17:39 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (GhWtjGZC8eL38JRYaxZs0Puj6ZRH-iCn+Pn-te9-A7lZTyk21Jp6ZK@[217.89.4.228]) by afwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1ANIee-1Hb6jw0; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:17:28 +0100 To: Matt Price Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: colors not working in terminal + movement-hooks X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <20031121205343.GA16015@utoronto.ca> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:17:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031121205343.GA16015@utoronto.ca> (Matt Price's message of "Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:53:43 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: GhWtjGZC8eL38JRYaxZs0Puj6ZRH-iCn+Pn-te9-A7lZTyk21Jp6ZK X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Price writes: Matt> On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:12:40PM +0100, Adrian Aichner wrote: >> >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Price writes: >> Matt> Any ideas where I should look? I've posted my .xemacs Matt> directory online, at http://www.derailleur.org/xemacs if Matt> anyone wants to take a look. Didn't want to send all them Matt> files to the whole list, though. >> >> Hey Matt, I get: >> >> Forbidden >> You don't have permission to access /xemacs/ on this server. >> Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.derailleur.org Port 80 >> Matt> Sorry adrian, Matt> the permissions should be fixed now. In addition, my color Hi Matt, I suggest you upgrade to XEmacs 21.4.14 if possible. Many issues were fixed since 21.4.6. See http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.4.7.html#summary thru http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.4.14.html#summary Yes, I can get to http://www.derailleur.org/xemacs/ now, thanks. Matt> issues seem to have been solved along the way -- I was Matt> missing a Matt> (require 'font-lock) Matt> (setq-default font-lock-maximum-decoration t) The XEmacs way to enable font-lock for a mode called 'my-major-mode would be (add-hook 'my-major-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) provided 'my-major-mode has a 'my-major-mode-hook. I do not (require 'font-lock), just use the above for various modes. Matt> sequence. trivial, but EXTREMELY time-consuming. Matt> I still have this issue about movement-related hooks. I'd Matt> really like for emacs to pop me out underneath the mail Matt> headers, rather than above them, but neither I nor other Matt> folks on the mutt-user list have had any luck with various Matt> solution Many of them work fine after the buffer's have been Matt> opened -- for instance, a (mail-text) hook in mail-mode Matt> works fine iF I switch to mail-mode from another mode, but Matt> if the buffer is initially opened in mail-mode, the cursor Matt> tays stuck att he top of the buffer. I use message mode under gnus. It leaves me in the To: header when creating a new message. In case I'd rather be in body, I use C-c C-b (message-goto-body) but the to address is probably a good thing to fill in first. I haven't used mutt. Adrian Matt> DOes this sound like a bug of some kind? Any idea how it Matt> can be fixed? Matt> Thanks, Matt> Matt -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 16:52:53 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALLpFv02641; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:51:15 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALLo5302420 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:05 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hALLo4T02413 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:04 -0500 Received: from filter1.hurontel.on.ca (filter1.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.215]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hALLo2v02407 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:50:02 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by filter1.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.8/8.12.6) id hALLnpOL029011 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:49:51 -0500 Received: from filter1.hurontel.on.ca (dial-cvx-27.hay.net [216.46.130.27]) by 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================================================================ Dear Bug Team! Hi--I'm running the Pink Tie (Red Hat) build of XEmacs. I have a dual-head setup running Xinerama. If the XEmacs window happens to be near the seam between my computer's left head and right head, and I click a menubar item, the menu window can be placed on the seam between my monitors. This is annoying and hard to read. Thanks! ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux porky.devel.redhat.com 2.4.20-2.48bigmem #1 SMP Thu Feb 13 11:31:10 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux ./configure 'i386-redhat-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--libdir=/usr/lib' '--mandir=/usr/share/man/man1' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--with-gpm=no' '--with-sound=native' '--with-pop' '--mail-locking=lockf' '--with-clash-detection' '--debug=no' '--error-checking=none' '--with-mule=yes' '--with-database=berkdb' '--with-ldap=yes' '--with-hesiod=no' '--with-canna=yes' '--with-wnn=yes' '--with-widgets=motif' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-scrollbars=lucid' '--with-dialogs=motif' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-msw=no' '--with-xfs=yes' '--pdump' XEmacs 21.4.12 "Portable Code" configured for `i386-redhat-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/build/225655-i386/BUILD/xemacs-21.4.12 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 -g Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for the WNN input method on Mule. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "lockf" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/timezone /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/timezone /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.12/lisp/build-report /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/alist /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.12/lisp/alist /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib/smtpmail /home/tjs/cvs/elisp/smtpmail /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/prog-modes/p4 /home/tjs/cvs/elisp/p4) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.04 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.5 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.75 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.07 :type regular) (viper :version 1.35 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.16 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 21 21:43:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM2h2v06669; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:43:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM2gV606584 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:42:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM2gSf06576 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:42:28 -0500 Received: from screech.rychter.com (screech.rychter.com [212.87.11.114]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM2gRv06569 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:42:27 -0500 Received: from tnuctip.rychter.com (unknown [10.197.0.2]) by screech.rychter.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE924A604; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:42:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from tnuctip.rychter.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tnuctip.rychter.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAM2i4LN009901; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:05 -0800 Received: (from jwr@localhost) by tnuctip.rychter.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAM2i2sX009899; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:02 -0800 To: Glynn Clements Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] XEmacs hangs when doing networking References: <16315.8435.739271.517282@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> X-Spammers-Please: blackholeme@rychter.com From: Jan Rychter Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:02 -0800 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "Glynn" =3D=3D Glynn Clements : Glynn> Jan Rychter wrote: > The common recurring theme is the two messages that appear on the > console that XEmacs was started from: > > X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major > opcode of failed request: 25 (X_SendEvent) Resource id in failed > request: 0xe009ba Serial number of failed request: 593927 Current > serial number in output stream: 594059 Xlib: unexpected async reply > (sequence 0x9108b)! > > xemacs-21.4.14: X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window > parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty) > Resource id in failed request: 0xe009ba Serial number of failed > request: 593926 Current serial number in output stream: 594059 >> [umpteen or so crashes later, having lost some data along the way] >> >> Can I do anything else to help resolving this bug? Glynn> The following may produce useful information, but they may Glynn> involve more inconvenience than you can accept: [...] Thanks -- I'll try doing that. It might take me a while, though. >> Is this a known problem, or is it just me? Glynn> You certainly aren't the only person to report it. >> Is anyone working on this? Glynn> I don't think so. >> I have a feeling this could be related to the resolver. Glynn> How so? I think I'm seeing two separate (but possibly related) issues here. One is that XEmacs hangs. The other are the BadWindow messages. I've just spent a long time trying to reproduce the problems, which seemed to be spurious. And I think I found a case that shows where to look for the problems.=20 Tcpdump says: 192.168.1.82.32807 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17472+ A? news-server.san.rr.com.= (40) (DF) [repeated 5 more times] 192.168.1.82.32809 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17473+[|domain] (DF) [repeated 5 more times] 192.168.1.82.32811 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17474+ AAAA? news-server.san.rr.c= om. (40) (DF) [repeated 5 more times] 192.168.1.82.32813 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17475+[|domain] (DF) [repeated 5 more times] 192.168.1.82.32815 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17476+ A? news-server.san.rr.com.= (40) (DF) [repeated 5 more times] 192.168.1.82.32813 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17477+[|domain] (DF) [repeated 5 more times] ... at which points XEmacs becomes totally unresponsive and stays in that state forever (as far as I can tell). There is no other network activity occurring. Now, I know _why_ it's trying to do a DNS lookup and failing. It seems this particular XEmacs process was started when I was connected to some Wi-Fi hotspot and the resolver took the (valid at the time) contents of /etc/resolv.conf, remembered it and made it it's Bible forever. Of course I have no way to reach 10.11.53.10 now, and I also have no way to tell XEmacs that resolv.conf has changed (is there any solution to that problem?). What I don't understand is why the lookup doesn't just fail. XEmacs shouldn't hang forever, no matter what happens. And I don't understand how the BadWindow messages are related, but they seem to appear after I switch (using Alt-TAB in WindowMaker) to another window (and possibly back) For what it's worth (not much, I'm afraid), here's the lisp backtrace produced when I kill (-INT) this hanging xemacs: Lisp backtrace follows:=20=20=20 open-network-stream-internal("nntpd" # "news-server.san. rr.com" "nntp" nil) # bind (coding-system-for-read coding-system-for-write cs-r cs-w protocol= service host buffer name) open-network-stream("nntpd" # "news-server.san.rr.com" " nntp") # bind (buffer) nntp-open-network-stream(#) # bind (coding-system-for-read coding-system-for-write) byte-code("..." [pbuffer nntp-open-connection-function coding-system-for-= read coding-system-for-write nntp-coding =2Dsystem-for-write nntp-coding-system-for-read] 2) # (condition-case ... . ((error) (quit (byte-code "=C1=C2!=A8!=A8=C4=C5= =C6\"=A8=C6=A7" ... 3)))) # bind (timer pbuffer buffer) nntp-open-connection(#) # bind (connectionless defs server) nntp-open-server("news-server.san.rr.com" nil) byte-code("..." [gnus-command-method gnus-get-function open-server] 3) # (condition-case ... . ((error (byte-code "=C1=C2=C3=C4!\"\"=A8=C6=A7" .= .. 6)) (quit (gnus-message 1 "Quit trying to open server") nil))) # bind (elem gnus-command-method) gnus-open-server((nntp "news-server.san.rr.com")) byte-code("..." [result method gnus-open-server] 2) # (condition-case ... . ((quit (message "Quit gnus-check-server") nil))) # bind (method result method silent method active method dont-check scan = group) gnus-activate-group("nntp+news-server.san.rr.com:comp.emacs.xemacs" scan) # bind (retrieve-groups method active group info scanned-methods foreign-= level level newsrc level) gnus-get-unread-articles(nil) # bind (gnus-inhibit-demon nnmail-fetched-sources arg) gnus-group-get-new-news(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(gnus-group-get-new-news) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) [1] Terminated xemacs-21.4.14 235.510u 6.680s 5:07:47.12 1.3% 0+0k 0+0io 17739pf+0w So, it seems my hangs are directly related to the resolver (no DNS servers being reachable) and should be easily reproducible. =2D-J. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/vs1yLth4/7/QhDoRAigrAKCJ+QfQLn9/x0GKcjwn1fjScA4fyACfaPqE 6ZuT91F9j/oze3UeG1iScLg= =qI/9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 00:00:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM502v03592; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:00:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM4xs403513 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:59:54 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM4xqb03493 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:59:52 -0500 Received: from mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (mta1-svc.business.ntl.com [62.253.164.41]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM4xpv03489 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:59:51 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.68.18]) by mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031122045949.RKUY399.mta1-svc.business.ntl.com@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:59:49 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hAM4xCc01151; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:59:12 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16318.60704.265629.374060@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:59:12 +0000 To: Jan Rychter Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] XEmacs hangs when doing networking In-Reply-To: References: <16315.8435.739271.517282@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jan Rychter wrote: > >> I have a feeling this could be related to the resolver. > Glynn> How so? > > I think I'm seeing two separate (but possibly related) issues here. One > is that XEmacs hangs. The other are the BadWindow messages. Sorry, I was focused on the BadWindow errors. The hanging does appear to be related to the resolver. > I've just spent a long time trying to reproduce the problems, which > seemed to be spurious. And I think I found a case that shows where to > look for the problems. > > Tcpdump says: > > 192.168.1.82.32807 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17472+ A? news-server.san.rr.com. (40) (DF) > [repeated 5 more times] > 192.168.1.82.32809 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17473+[|domain] (DF) > [repeated 5 more times] > 192.168.1.82.32811 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17474+ AAAA? news-server.san.rr.com. (40) (DF) > [repeated 5 more times] > 192.168.1.82.32813 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17475+[|domain] (DF) > [repeated 5 more times] > 192.168.1.82.32815 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17476+ A? news-server.san.rr.com. (40) (DF) > [repeated 5 more times] > 192.168.1.82.32813 > 10.11.53.10.domain: 17477+[|domain] (DF) > [repeated 5 more times] > > ... at which points XEmacs becomes totally unresponsive and stays in > that state forever (as far as I can tell). There is no other network > activity occurring. > > Now, I know _why_ it's trying to do a DNS lookup and failing. It seems > this particular XEmacs process was started when I was connected to some > Wi-Fi hotspot and the resolver took the (valid at the time) contents of > /etc/resolv.conf, remembered it and made it it's Bible forever. Of > course I have no way to reach 10.11.53.10 now, and I also have no way to > tell XEmacs that resolv.conf has changed (is there any solution to that > problem?). To fix the running process, you would need to attach a debugger to the process and manually modify libc's internal state. To eliminate the problem in future, run a caching-only named, and have resolv.conf point to 127.0.0.1. Then, you can just restart named if you change the DNS server. > What I don't understand is why the lookup doesn't just fail. XEmacs > shouldn't hang forever, no matter what happens. Well, unless gethostbyname/getaddrinfo hang forever. AFAICT, XEmacs relies upon those functions either succeeding or failing eventually; it doesn't appear to try to pre-empt them. > And I don't understand how the BadWindow messages are related, but they > seem to appear after I switch (using Alt-TAB in WindowMaker) to another > window (and possibly back) I'm not sure that they are related. Unless it's due to a bug in the X error handler. In general, error handling code is notorious for not getting particularly well tested by typical usage. > So, it seems my hangs are directly related to the resolver (no DNS > servers being reachable) and should be easily reproducible. I wouldn't be so sure, particularly what happens after XEmacs calls gethostbyname or getaddrinfo is likely to be highly system-specific (i.e. it depends upon what's in nsswitch.conf, whether you're running nscd etc). -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 00:12:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM5C1v06487; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:12:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM5BHx06351 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:11:17 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM5BFs06344 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:11:15 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM5BEv06336 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:11:14 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANQ2v-0006Vy-00; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:11:01 +0900 To: Jan Rychter Cc: Glynn Clements , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] XEmacs hangs when doing networking References: <16315.8435.739271.517282@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:11:00 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Jan Rychter's message of "Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:44:02 -0800") Message-ID: <87wu9tyom3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Rychter writes: Jan> ... at which points XEmacs becomes totally unresponsive and Jan> stays in that state forever (as far as I can tell). There is Jan> no other network activity occurring. If this is XEmacs hanging, and not the system call failing to timeout, then I would say it's Gnus breakage (inflooping on an operation known to have failed), not XEmacs itself. OTOH, your resolver setup is apparently broken. It is supposed to read resolv.conf on every call AFAIK---changes to resolv.conf should take effect immediately. Anyway, they do for me. One thing you can do is to use a caching nameserver locally. You don't need bind, just something small like pdnsd. Jan> What I don't understand is why the lookup doesn't just Jan> fail. XEmacs shouldn't hang forever, no matter what happens. If Gnus gets into a tight loop, there's not much we can do about it. Maybe we can add some checks for QUIT so at least you can C-g out of it. Jan> So, it seems my hangs are directly related to the resolver Jan> (no DNS servers being reachable) and should be easily Jan> reproducible. I'll see what I can do about checking this. Thanks for the analysis! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 00:19:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM5J1v08364; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:19:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM5ITT08280 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:18:29 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM5ISd08269 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:18:28 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM5IRv08265 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:18:27 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANQ9u-0006W5-00; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:18:14 +0900 To: Tim Showalter Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] menus span monitor borders on Xinerama References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:18:14 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Tim Showalter's message of "21 Nov 2003 15:19:56 -0800") Message-ID: <87smkhyoa1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Showalter writes: Tim> Hi--I'm running the Pink Tie (Red Hat) build of XEmacs. I Tim> have a dual-head setup running Xinerama. Tim> If the XEmacs window happens to be near the seam between my Tim> computer's left head and right head, and I click a menubar Tim> item, the menu window can be placed on the seam between my Tim> monitors. This is annoying and hard to read. Uh, what are we supposed to do about this? I thought the point of Xinerama was that applications see one big screen. If you had multiple screens, XEmacs would do the right thing; menus are not placed outside the screen (unless they're actually bigger than the screen). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 01:54:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM6s1v19594; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:54:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM6rtW19565 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:53:55 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAM6rpW19558 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:53:51 -0500 Received: from screech.rychter.com (screech.rychter.com [212.87.11.114]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAM6rov19550; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:53:50 -0500 Received: from tnuctip.rychter.com (unknown [10.197.0.2]) by screech.rychter.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC16A4A604; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:53:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from tnuctip.rychter.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tnuctip.rychter.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAM6tQ7j003607; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:55:28 -0800 Received: (from jwr@localhost) by tnuctip.rychter.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAM6kIQd003528; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:46:18 -0800 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Glynn Clements , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] XEmacs hangs when doing networking References: <16315.8435.739271.517282@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> <87wu9tyom3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Spammers-Please: blackholeme@rychter.com From: Jan Rychter Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:46:09 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87wu9tyom3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:11:00 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Rychter writes: Jan> ... at which points XEmacs becomes totally unresponsive and stays Jan> in that state forever (as far as I can tell). There is no other Jan> network activity occurring. Stephen> If this is XEmacs hanging, and not the system call failing to Stephen> timeout, then I would say it's Gnus breakage (inflooping on an Stephen> operation known to have failed), not XEmacs itself. OTOH, Stephen> your resolver setup is apparently broken. It is supposed to Stephen> read resolv.conf on every call AFAIK---changes to resolv.conf Stephen> should take effect immediately. Anyway, they do for me. Hmm, interesting. I had the impression that resolv.conf is only read at libc initialization time, and never again. Of course I do agree that my resolver setup is broken if resolv.conf contains bogus nameservers. Also, to answer Glynn Clements -- I've checked and 'ping' and 'telnet' do not hang forever with a bogus resolv.conf. Both timeout. XEmacs is the only application I've seen in my system that just hangs forever. Stephen> One thing you can do is to use a caching nameserver locally. Stephen> You don't need bind, just something small like pdnsd. Yes, I should probably do that. I remember I killed that setup when I was trying to get reasonable battery from my laptop. I was hunting around for applications doing gratuitous I/O without any need to do so (rant: it seems many programmers live in the huge-noisy-always-on machine world, and assume that they can and should read and write to the filesystem anytime they want), and I seem to remember that the caching nameserver was one of the applications writing to the hard drive quite often. I can of course try that, but perhaps this bug (if it is indeed a bug) is worth fixing anyway. BTW, I am not entirely sure if a caching nameserver will solve the problem -- if I'm not connected to the network, XEmacs might get into the same state by never timeouting. Jan> What I don't understand is why the lookup doesn't just Jan> fail. XEmacs shouldn't hang forever, no matter what happens. Stephen> If Gnus gets into a tight loop, there's not much we can do Stephen> about it. Maybe we can add some checks for QUIT so at least Stephen> you can C-g out of it. [...] Hmm. What do you mean by a "tight loop"? Gnus seems to do it this way (code snipped from inside a let* in nnpt-open-connection from nntp.el): (condition-case () (let ((coding-system-for-read nntp-coding-system-for-read) (coding-system-for-write nntp-coding-system-for-write)) (funcall nntp-open-connection-function pbuffer)) (error nil) (quit (message "Quit opening connection") (nntp-kill-buffer pbuffer) (signal 'quit nil) nil)) where nntp-open-connection-function is: (defun nntp-open-network-stream (buffer) (open-network-stream "nntpd" buffer nntp-address nntp-port-number)) and the top of my backtrace was indeed: open-network-stream-internal("nntpd" # "news-server.san. rr.com" "nntp" nil) # bind (coding-system-for-read coding-system-for-write cs-r cs-w protocol service host buffer name) open-network-stream("nntpd" # "news-server.san.rr.com" " nntp") # bind (buffer) nntp-open-network-stream(#) I have to say I don't see any loops here -- but I'm probably missing something... many thanks for your help, --Jan --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/vwY5Lth4/7/QhDoRApyPAKCHGTc3dYXV5l9FZ2oS0NYj+P9GRgCfcgtG Hx6Ufy7cqM+4WP4R4Mr5j9Y= =QvmL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 06:37:06 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAMBb2v10833; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:37:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAMBabi10756 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:36:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAMBaZm10744 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:36:35 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAMBaYv10727 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:36:35 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANW3r-0007Bq-00; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:36:23 +0900 To: Glynn Clements Cc: Jan Rychter , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] XEmacs hangs when doing networking References: <16315.8435.739271.517282@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> <16318.60704.265629.374060@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:36:23 +0900 In-Reply-To: <16318.60704.265629.374060@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> (Glynn Clements's message of "Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:59:12 +0000") Message-ID: <87r800y6rs.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Glynn" == Glynn Clements writes: >> So, it seems my hangs are directly related to the resolver (no >> DNS servers being reachable) and should be easily reproducible. Glynn> I wouldn't be so sure, particularly what happens after Glynn> XEmacs calls gethostbyname or getaddrinfo is likely to be Glynn> highly system-specific (i.e. it depends upon what's in Glynn> nsswitch.conf, whether you're running nscd etc). Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. If you're running recent Red Hat, nscd is broken; starting it implicitly via one of the get* calls invariably wedges it. The solution is to run it by hand as root (I think you can do this with a startup script). This breakage is not reproducible on non-Red Hat systems. It could be that Jan doesn't use very many apps which operate offline, and that's why the symptom only shows up with XEmacs. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 15:12:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAMKC7v29924; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:12:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAMKBhr29880 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:11:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAMKBgb29873 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:11:42 -0500 Received: from tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.132.38]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAMKBfv29868 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:11:42 -0500 Received: from csn-server.csn.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.101.249] helo=gondor.middle-earth.priv) by tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.22) id 1ANe6W-0003tZ-TZ for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:11:41 +0100 Received: from gondor.middle-earth.priv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondor.middle-earth.priv (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAMKD1Pb017601 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:13:02 +0100 Received: (from chkr@localhost) by gondor.middle-earth.priv (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id hAMKD0B0017598; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:13:01 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: bug with indenting C files References: <87vfq0ua0a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Christian Krause Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:12:59 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8a8fa125b9cc748093f12ed7809f170b X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:45:41 +0900, Stephen J Turnbull wrote: >>>>>> "Christian" == Christian Krause writes: Christian> If this is not the right place for the problem, please Christian> redirect me. > Try bug-cc-mode@gnu.org. I would guess that GNU Emacs extended the > API and we haven't yet synched, but maybe the cc-mode people can > install a workaround for XEmacs. Just FYI: I've talked with maintainers of the cc-mode and they told me, that this bug was fixed in cc-mode version 5.30.7 which is in the actual sumo package. christian From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 18:03:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAMN22v02698; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:02:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAMN1JB02553 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:01:19 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAMN15Q02514 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:01:05 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (h80ad273a.async.vt.edu [128.173.39.58]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAMN12v02507; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:01:03 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id hAMN117a030924; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:01:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200311222301.hAMN117a030924@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:33:02 +0900." <87brr88zzl.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200311190352.hAJ3qlwS006969@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <87brr88zzl.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1885453212P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:01:00 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_1885453212P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:33:02 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" said: > There was one comment early in the Xft thread that they didn't think > that "the X world" outside of XFree86 is heading in the direction of > Xft. Doesn't matter. Jim Gettys says this about Xft (http://freedesktop.org/~jg/roadmap.html) --- Xft2 provides a client-side font API for X applications. It uses Fontconfig to select fonts, Freetype 2 for rendering the fonts and the X protocol for drawing them on the screen. When available, Xft uses the Render extension to accelerate text drawing. When Render is not available, Xft uses the core protocol to draw client-side glyphs. This provides completely compatible support of client-side fonts for all X servers, enabling application developers the benefits of anti-aliased, subpixel decimated text on all X implementations. Xft1 is obsolete and should not be used; it did not provide AA text on old X servers, and combined this functionality with what is now Fontconfig, which has been made a separate library usable by all applications, not just X applications. Both Qt and GTK+ in versions since late 1992 have used Xft2 for their text rendering. Xft2 is stable, and now widely available and deployed on open source systems. --- So Render is nice but not required, and Xft can run on anything that provides the base X11 protocol. It's got one of the more sane font models around. Looks like a winner direction to me, as long as we're willing to make Xft a pre-req library (not like we don't have a bunch of those already). --==_Exmh_1885453212P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/v+qscC3lWbTT17ARArGTAJ9g7jAjBWp7qPhNtb/P5383iSvVzgCaA7Yt hIYi7kzQiD4EQxM/0dIvszs= =Tm7k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1885453212P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 18:18:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAMNI1v06130; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:18:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAMNHFD06025 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:17:15 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAMNHAd06013 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:17:10 -0500 Received: from null.cs.brown.edu (null.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.190]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAMNH9v05999 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:17:09 -0500 Received: from cslab6c (cslab6c [128.148.31.204]) by null.cs.brown.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7F62EFF9 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from tmuresia (helo=localhost) by cslab6c with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANgzx-0004c1-00 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:17:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:17:05 -0500 (EST) From: Tobias Alexander Muresianu X-X-Sender: tmuresia@cslab6c To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: fatal crash while typing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.6] random crash and segfault --text follows this line-- ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I was minding my own business writing my cs031 project, and bam! segfault. here's a a list of the last couple errors from xemacs which were printed out in the console, I'm not sure if they are relevant or not but who knows? xemacs: X Error of failed request: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 74 (X_PolyText8) Resource id in failed request: 0x8b1c970 Serial number of failed request: 4084576 Current serial number in output stream: 4084582 xemacs: X Error of failed request: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 69 (X_FillPoly) Resource id in failed request: 0x8b1c970 Serial number of failed request: 4084577 Current serial number in output stream: 4084582 xemacs: X Error of failed request: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 65 (X_PolyLine) Resource id in failed request: 0x8b1c970 Serial number of failed request: 4084578 Current serial number in output stream: 4084582 Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. If you have access to the PROBLEMS file that came with your version of XEmacs, please check to see if your crash is described there, as there may be a workaround available. Otherwise, please report this bug by running the send-pr script included with XEmacs, or selecting `Send Bug Report' from the help menu. As a last resort send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the information in the command M-x describe-installation. If at all possible, *please* try to obtain a C stack backtrace; it will help us immensely in determining what went wrong. To do this, locate the core file that was produced as a result of this crash (it's usually called `core' and is located in the directory in which you started the editor, or maybe in your home directory), and type gdb /usr/bin/xemacs core then type `where' when the debugger prompt comes up. (If you don't have GDB on your system, you might have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. A similar procedure should work for all of these. Ask your system administrator if you need more help.) Lisp backtrace follows: Segmentation fault ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux eeyore 2.4.19-pre5-eeyore #1 Fri Apr 5 00:42:42 EST 2002 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-sound=none,native' '--cflags=-O2 -g -Wall' '--with-x11' '--extra-verbose' '--with-site-lisp' '--statedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/xemacs-21.4.6' '--prefix=/usr' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--dynamic' '--without-postgresql' '--with-gpm=no' '--with_menubars=lucid' '--with_scrollbars=lucid' '--with_dialogs=athena' '--docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.6/i386-debian-linux/mule/' '--with-mule' '--with-canna=no' '--with-wnn=no' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-xfs' '--package-path=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages:~/.xemacs/xemacs-packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/mule-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' 'i386-debian-linux' XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" configured for `i386-debian-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/dres/project/debian/current/xemacs21/xemacs-21.4.6 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -g -Wall Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Linking with `-Xlinker -znocombreloc'. - Consider configuring with --pdump. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. 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ecrypto-autoloads edebug-autoloads ediff-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads edt-autoloads efs-autoloads eieio-autoloads elib-autoloads emerge-autoloads eshell-autoloads ess-autoloads eterm-autoloads eudc-autoloads footnote-autoloads forms-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads games-autoloads general-docs-autoloads gnats-autoloads gnus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads idlwave-autoloads igrep-autoloads ilisp-autoloads ispell-autoloads jde-autoloads liece-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mew-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mine-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads net-utils-autoloads ocaml-autoloads os-utils-autoloads pc-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads ps-print-autoloads psgml-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads python-modes-autoloads reftex-autoloads rmail-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads sasl-autoloads scheme-autoloads 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obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- misc-user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Loading jde-javadoc...done Setting JDE variables to startup values... Loading jde-javadoc... Setting JDE variables to startup values... SemanticVisitor.java: [############################################] ... done Loading jde...done jde-java-font-lock: building names cache...empty jde-java-font-lock: building names cache... Loading customization dependencies...done Loading customization dependencies... Loading jde... SemanticVisitor.java has auto save data; consider M-x recover-file Loading efs-cu...done Loading efs-cu... Loading font...done Loading font... Loading pending-del...done Loading pending-del... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 20:45:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAN1j1v02159; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:45:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAN1iwt02093 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:44:58 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAN1iri02070 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:44:53 -0500 Received: from tmailt1.svr.pol.co.uk (tmailt1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.137.107]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAN1iPv02002 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:44:26 -0500 Received: from user-2253.cl2.dsl.pol.co.uk ([81.77.168.205] helo=essex.ac.uk) by tmailt1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ANjIW-0006el-AL for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:44:24 +0000 Message-ID: <3FC01189.70009@essex.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:46:49 +0000 From: Norbert Voelker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4.1) Gecko/20031008 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Bug: 21.4.13] File mode specification error: (... "No such file or directory" "find") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Dear Bug Team! After just nstalling the latest XEmacs-native for Windows (I am running Windows 2000) using the net-installer, when trying to open a Java file, Xemacs comes up with the following error (see Recent Messages below): File mode specification error: (file-error "Searching for program" "No such Dieter> file or directory" "find") Any suggestions? Could it maybe have to do with the fact that I have cygwin on the machine as well? I have tried to rename the cygwin/bin directory to avoid clashed but it did not help. Cheers, Norbert. ================================================================ C:\Documents and Settings\norbert>echo %PATH% D:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\sml\bin;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\s ystem32\WBEM;C:\Program Files\Objective Caml\bin;C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Binn\;C:\Program Files\SSH Communications Security\SSH Secure Sh ell;c:\Program Files\mosml\bin;c:\Programme\coq\bin;;C:\j2sdk1.4.1\bin;C:\Progra mme\jakarta-ant-1.5\bin;C:\cygwin\bin;C:\Programme\mosml\bin ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in "d:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4-release\\nt". Using compiler "cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML". Installing XEmacs in "c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.13". Package path is "~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using portable dumper. 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menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- button1 button1up misc-user button1 button1up misc -user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... File mode specification error: (file-error "Searching for program" "No such file or directory" "find") Loading customization dependencies...done Loading customization dependencies... Loading jde... Loading efs-cu...done Loading efs-cu... Loading font...done Loading font... Loading font-lock...done Loading cus-face...done Loading cus-face... Loading font-lock... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 21:27:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAN2R1v11131; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:27:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAN2QOJ11017 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:26:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAN2QNp11008 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:26:23 -0500 Received: from tmailt1.svr.pol.co.uk (tmailt1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.137.107]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAN2QNv11002 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:26:23 -0500 Received: from user-2253.cl2.dsl.pol.co.uk ([81.77.168.205] helo=essex.ac.uk) by tmailt1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ANjx8-0004Jz-0p for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:26:22 +0000 Message-ID: <3FC01B5F.20605@essex.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:28:47 +0000 From: Norbert Voelker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4.1) Gecko/20031008 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: SOLVED Bug: 21.4.13] File mode specification error: (... "No such file or directory" "find") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Dear Bug Team! Further to my previous bug-report concerning XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. File mode specification error: (file-error "Searching for program" "No such file or directory" "find") I have found the problem. For some reason (I suspect an SSH installation), my machine had both a User variable Path as well as a System variable names Path. The problem went away as soon as I removed the "User variable Path" (after adding its entries to the "System variable Path" beforehand). The problem did in fact also show up in the MS-Command Prompt (DOS shell) as it could not find "find.exe". This might be a fast way of diagnosis in case it should turn up with someone else. It is remarkable that the XEmacs error-message was in fact quite accurate - it did not find "find". Cheers, Norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 22 22:42:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAN3g1v26969; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:42:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAN3f3A26804 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:41:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAN3f2c26785 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:41:02 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (h80ad24a3.async.vt.edu [128.173.36.163]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAN3f1v26778 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:41:01 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id hAN3er7a011597; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:40:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200311230340.hAN3er7a011597@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: Norbert Voelker Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: SOLVED Bug: 21.4.13] File mode specification error: (... "No such file or directory" "find") In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:28:47 GMT." <3FC01B5F.20605@essex.ac.uk> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <3FC01B5F.20605@essex.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1965859889P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:40:53 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-1965859889P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:28:47 GMT, Norbert Voelker said: > I have found the problem. For some reason (I suspect an SSH > installation), my machine had both a User variable Path as well as a > System variable names Path. The problem went away as soon as I removed > the "User variable Path" (after adding its entries to the "System > variable Path" beforehand). That's just so.... wrong. And for a number of reasons. --==_Exmh_-1965859889P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/wCxFcC3lWbTT17ARAroGAKClH1ksTnJFdZs5LpEtfYFUSE05JgCgtQf9 MFpBqDRJ57JzSol5PXY8Mr8= =WPcc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1965859889P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 23 11:55:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANGt5v18337; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:55:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANGsAP18167 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:54:10 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANGru618099 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:53:56 -0500 Received: from rent.teradyne.com (rent.teradyne.com [198.51.251.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANGrkv18066; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:53:46 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by rent.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05717; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA20216; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (anaran@[131.101.84.241]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA25233; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:53:41 +0100 (MET) To: Jake Colman Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <3FBA77A3.9070006@civicnet.net> <76oev9jpu8.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <76y8u9ek37.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:54:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <76y8u9ek37.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> (Jake Colman's message of "Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:56:44 -0500") Message-ID: <1xrzdo0c.fsf@engine.ecf.teradyne.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jake" == Jake Colman writes: Hi Jake, this works for me: (add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook '(lambda () (cond ((eq major-mode 'python-mode) (set (make-local-variable 'font-lock-keywords) python-font-lock-keywords)) ((eq major-mode 'c++-mode) (set (make-local-variable 'font-lock-keywords) (append c++-font-lock-keywords '(("\\<\\(foreach\\)\\>" (1 font-lock-keyword-face t))))))))) I guess appending to c++-font-lock-keywords requires some reinitialization for it to update 'font-lock-keywords in c++-mode. I haven't spend the time to find that out, but the above seems to work just as well. Hope this helps, Adrian >>>>> "TC" == Tim Connors writes: >>> I tried this: >>> >>> (setq c++-font-lock-keywords >>> (append c++-font-lock-keywords >>> (list '(".*foreach.*" 1 font-lock-keyword-face t)))) >>> TC> Where you by chance getting a "fontifying blah.c... aborted.aborted." TC> message in the modeline? Jake> No. I get no error messages. The new kywork simply does not fontify. TC> Try putting brackets around the (1 font-lock-keyword-face t) list. TC> So I have now in one of mine: TC> (setq font-lock-keywords TC> (append font-lock-keywords TC> (list TC> '("\\<\\(d?a?\\(cos\\|sin\\|tan\\|tan\\|tan2\\)\\(deg\\)?\\|d?\\(sqrt\\|sqr\\|exp\\|abs\\|int\\|nint\\|min\\|max\\|sign\\|log\\|log10\\)\\)h?\\>" TC> (0 font-lock-math-face append))))) TC> ) Jake> Looking again at how existing keywords (e.g., 'for', 'while') I tried the Jake> following: Jake> (setq c++-font-lock-keywords Jake> (append c++-font-lock-keywords Jake> (list '("\\\\([^a-zA-Z0-9_$]\\|$\\)" 1 font-lock-keyword-face t)))) Jake> This still does not work. Jake> -- Jake> Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 23 11:59:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANGx1v19295; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:59:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANGw9N19088 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:58:09 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANGw7D19077 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:58:07 -0500 Received: from rent.teradyne.com (rent.teradyne.com [198.51.251.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANGw5v19055; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:58:06 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by rent.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05902; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA20783; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (anaran@[131.101.84.241]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA25237; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:58:01 +0100 (MET) To: Jerry James Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: Future package: proposed content X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:58:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Jerry James's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:16:17 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jerry" == Jerry James writes: Jerry> Are there any plans to create the "back to the future" Jerry> package, with stuff that older XEmacsen need for forward Jerry> compatibility? I've synced up xemacs-base/easy-mmode.el Jerry> with Emacs 21.3, and it works great with current 21.5 CVS. Jerry> However, older XEmacsen won't be able to use it, due to 2 Jerry> missing functions, and an older version of a 3rd. What about moving the functionality out of core to the xemacs-base package? Is that functionality used in core itself? Jerry> In particular, I need to make the xemacs-base package Jerry> depend on the future package, and the future package needs Jerry> to contain something like this: Jerry> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jerry> ;; This function is defined in subr.el for XEmacs >= 21.5.7 Jerry> (if (not (fboundp 'propertize)) Jerry> (defun propertize (string &rest properties) Jerry> "Return a copy of STRING with text properties added. Jerry> First argument is the string to copy. Jerry> Remaining arguments form a sequence of PROPERTY VALUE pairs for text Jerry> properties to add to the result." Jerry> (let ((str (copy-sequence string))) Jerry> (add-text-properties 0 (length str) Jerry> properties Jerry> str) Jerry> str))) Jerry> ;; This function is defined in subr.el for XEmacs >= 21.5.12 Jerry> (if (not (fboundp 'replace-regexp-in-string)) Jerry> (defun replace-regexp-in-string (regexp rep string &optional Jerry> fixedcase literal subexp start) Jerry> "Replace all matches for REGEXP with REP in STRING. Jerry> Return a new string containing the replacements. Jerry> Optional arguments FIXEDCASE, LITERAL and SUBEXP are like the Jerry> arguments with the same names of function `replace-match'. If START Jerry> is non-nil, start replacements at that index in STRING. Jerry> REP is either a string used as the NEWTEXT arg of `replace-match' or a Jerry> function. If it is a function it is applied to each match to generate Jerry> the replacement passed to `replace-match'; the match-data at this Jerry> point are such that match 0 is the function's argument. Jerry> To replace only the first match (if any), make REGEXP match up to \\' Jerry> and replace a sub-expression, e.g. Jerry> (replace-regexp-in-string \"\\(foo\\).*\\'\" \"bar\" \" foo foo\" nil nil 1) Jerry> => \" bar foo\" Jerry> " Jerry> (let ((l (length string)) Jerry> (start (or start 0)) Jerry> matches str mb me) Jerry> (save-match-data Jerry> (while (and (< start l) (string-match regexp string start)) Jerry> (setq mb (match-beginning 0) Jerry> me (match-end 0)) Jerry> ;; If we matched the empty string, make sure we advance by one char Jerry> (when (= me mb) (setq me (min l (1+ mb)))) Jerry> ;; Generate a replacement for the matched substring. Jerry> ;; Operate only on the substring to minimize string consing. Jerry> ;; Set up match data for the substring for replacement; Jerry> ;; presumably this is likely to be faster than munging the Jerry> ;; match data directly in Lisp. Jerry> (string-match regexp (setq str (substring string mb me))) Jerry> (setq matches Jerry> (cons (replace-match (if (stringp rep) Jerry> rep Jerry> (funcall rep (match-string 0 str))) Jerry> fixedcase literal str subexp) Jerry> (cons (substring string start mb) ; unmatched prefix Jerry> matches))) Jerry> (setq start me)) Jerry> ;; Reconstruct a string from the pieces. Jerry> (setq matches (cons (substring string start l) matches)) ; leftover Jerry> (apply #'concat (nreverse matches)))))) Jerry> ;; This function is defined in core. Jerry> ;; It has the 3rd argument in XEmacs >= 21.5.16. Jerry> (when (eq (function-max-args #'pos-visible-in-window-p) 2) Jerry> (fset 'pos-visible-in-window-p Jerry> `(lambda (&optional pos window partially) Jerry> "Returns t if position POS is currently on the frame in WINDOW. Jerry> Returns nil if that position is scrolled vertically out of view. Jerry> If a character is only partially visible, nil is returned, unless the Jerry> optional argument PARTIALLY is non-nil. Jerry> POS defaults to point in WINDOW's buffer; WINDOW, to the selected window." Jerry> (funcall ,(symbol-function 'pos-visible-in-window-p) pos window)))) Jerry> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jerry> Once that is in place, we can put the easy-mmode.el patch into place. Jerry> I've seen several Lisp packages now that use the new functionality, so Jerry> we need this patch before they can be ported to XEmacs. Jerry> -- Jerry> Jerry James Jerry> http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 23 12:24:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANHO0v25246; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:24:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANHN0t25085 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:23:00 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANHMxV25078 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:22:59 -0500 Received: from rent.teradyne.com (rent.teradyne.com [198.51.251.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANHMxv25074; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:22:59 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by rent.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06719; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA23394; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (anaran@[131.101.84.241]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA25270; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:22:53 +0100 (MET) To: robert delius royar Cc: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: version control from environment variable X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:23:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: (robert delius royar's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:52:08 -0500 (EST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> " " == robert delius royar writes: > In the file SRC/lisp/startup.el lines 549-557 the following code sets > version-control based on the VERSION_CONTROL environment setting: > 549- > 550- (setq command-line-default-directory default-directory) > 551- > 552- ;; See if we should import version-control from the environment > variable. > 553: (let ((vc (getenv "VERSION_CONTROL"))) > 554- (cond ((eq vc nil)) ;don't do anything if not set > 555- ((or (string= vc "t") > 556- (string= vc "numbered")) > 557- (setq version-control t)) > The problem with this comes when running 'make install' and the > system goes through a late iteration of dumping a working > XEmacs. The program is in batch mode and does not expect to > answer user input. But version-control expects to find out > whether to delete excess copies of the generated autoload > files. This triggers an assertion. Hi Robert, the bad interaction is in (defun backup-buffer () of files.el, right? What about this there: (defcustom delete-old-versions (if noninteractive 'leave) Seems like a good defensive approach. Please advise, Adrian > Shouldn't there also be a test for whether we are in batch > mode? Or perhaps batchmode should deal with user input > prompting. Does any request that leads to a prompt with a > needed answer cause batch mode to fail with an assertion? > -- > Dr. Robert Delius Royar Associate Professor of English > Morehead State University Morehead, Kentucky -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 23 12:30:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANHU3v26462; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:30:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANHTbS26307 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:29:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANHTa526282 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:29:36 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANHTZv26260; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:29:35 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ANy3B-0003w5-00; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:33 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (Sx9tE+ZFoeo7pd70iSAD1VtkI9V+-G8kUPXWhkLQfKLwYLlFErGrrh@[217.89.13.14]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1ANy36-1sp2Dg0; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:28 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [SUCCESS] XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac" (+CVS-20031122) i686-pc-linux X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:29:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031123144039.ED1C13A0FF@customer-mpls-23.cpinternet.com> (Michael D. Harnois's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:40:39 -0600 (CST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: Sx9tE+ZFoeo7pd70iSAD1VtkI9V+-G8kUPXWhkLQfKLwYLlFErGrrh X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Greetings, Michael! -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 23 13:12:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANIC2v03656; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:12:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANIBlw03583 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:11:47 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANIBk603574 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:11:46 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANIBjv03568; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:11:45 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ANyi0-0005ZM-00; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:11:44 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (Ekxy9BZZwe4yv4nX8z6ZIP7rpnVXmPBA2EyDcWoihNWz+Qz9U+9RoC@[217.89.13.14]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1ANyhr-13tgfI0; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:11:35 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Would like to import new package: ERC X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:12:06 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: Ekxy9BZZwe4yv4nX8z6ZIP7rpnVXmPBA2EyDcWoihNWz+Qz9U+9RoC X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Norbert, Board, I have an XEmacs ERC IRC package working quite well under 21.4.14 non-mule and 21.5.16 mule. I would like to import that into xemacs-packages/erc. It's based on current upstream CVS, whcih is pre-4.0. They haven't labeled their sources, so I can't really diff against the latest stable release, but it appears quite stable anyways. It's a very nice IRC client, with autojoin-alist, erc-track-mode and C-c C-SPC (erc-track-switch-buffer) to visit active channels from any buffer and return there just as easily. This is a much less intrusive way of chatting than in liece or zenirc, unless I missed some of their features. Please advise, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 23 13:27:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANIR0v06699; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:27:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANIQes06648 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:40 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANIQcK06627 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:38 -0500 Received: from kcte.net (kcte.net [199.239.248.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANIQbv06622; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:37 -0500 Received: from grendal.frinabulax.org (68-69-36-139.mgtnwv.adelphia.net [68.69.36.139]) (authenticated bits=0) by kcte.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hANIQVeT077672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:32 -0500 (EST) From: robert delius royar Reply-To: robert delius royar To: Adrian Aichner cc: robert delius royar , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: version control from environment variable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: Organization: An Apple OS X XEmacs missionary Priority: NEW Precedence: first-class MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SafeFileScanned: kcte.net X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 about 18:23 +0100 UTC Adrian Aichner wrote: > >>>>> " " == robert delius royar writes: > > > In the file SRC/lisp/startup.el lines 549-557 the following code sets > > version-control based on the VERSION_CONTROL environment setting: > > 549- > > 550- (setq command-line-default-directory default-directory) > > 551- > > 552- ;; See if we should import version-control from the environment > > variable. > > 553: (let ((vc (getenv "VERSION_CONTROL"))) > > 554- (cond ((eq vc nil)) ;don't do anything if not set > > 555- ((or (string= vc "t") > > 556- (string= vc "numbered")) > > 557- (setq version-control t)) > > > The problem with this comes when running 'make install' and the > > system goes through a late iteration of dumping a working > > XEmacs. The program is in batch mode and does not expect to > > answer user input. But version-control expects to find out > > whether to delete excess copies of the generated autoload > > files. This triggers an assertion. > > Hi Robert, the bad interaction is in > (defun backup-buffer () > of files.el, right? Yes, it is in this fragment: (and targets (or (eq delete-old-versions t) (eq delete-old-versions nil)) (or delete-old-versions (y-or-n-p (format "Delete excess backup versions of %s? " real-file-name)))))) > What about this there: > > (defcustom delete-old-versions (if noninteractive 'leave) > Seems like a good defensive approach. > > Please advise, I believe this would solve the problem. The only drawback is that the number of backup files could grow to a large number; however, this happens only when the environment variable has turned on numbered version control, so it may be that the potential problem of dozens of backups not being pruned would not show up for many users. On the other hand, without the change, a user with the variable set will not be able to install. > > Adrian > robert From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 23 17:35:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANMZ9v22915; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:35:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANMY2Z22774 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:34:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANMY0T22764 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:34:00 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANMY0v22760 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:34:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANMXCj22648 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:33:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANMX2G22602 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:33:02 -0500 Received: from topper.inf.ed.ac.uk (topper.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.32.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANMWxv22582 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:32:59 -0500 Received: from toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk (IDENT:root@toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.32.139]) by topper.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hANMWur06672; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:32:56 GMT Received: (from jcb@localhost) by toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hANMWtn07236; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:32:55 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Message-ID: <16321.13719.488173.68465@toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:32:55 +0000 From: Julian Bradfield To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: 21.5.16: crash visiting gzipped big5 file X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.4 (patch 13) "Rational FORTRAN" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hANMWxv22582 Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , The following crash (no core dump was made) was provoked thus: xemacs -q M-x load-library RET crypt RET C-x RET c big5 RET C-x C-f cedict.b5.gz RET cedict.b5 is the well-known Chinese dictionary in big5. (There is no problem visiting the unzipped file, only the zipped one.) feijoa: xemacs-beta -q Fatal error (13). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. Your version of XEmacs was distributed with a PROBLEMS file that may describe your crash, and with luck a workaround. Please check it first, but do report the crash anyway. Please report this bug by invoking M-x report-emacs-bug, or by selecting `Send Bug Report' from the Help menu. If that won't work, send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include this entire output from this crash, especially including the Lisp backtrace, as well as the XEmacs configuration from M-x describe-installation (or equivalently, the file `Installation' in the top of the build tree). *Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are unlikely to be able to analyze the problem. Locate the core file produced as a result of this crash (often called `core' or `core.', and located in the directory in which you started XEmacs or your home directory), and type gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs-beta core then type `where' at the debugger prompt. No GDB on your system? You may have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. (Ask your system administrator if you need help.) If no core file was produced, enable them (often with `ulimit -c unlimited') in case of future recurrance of the crash. Lisp backtrace follows: # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) ("execute_internal_event()" "[internal]") # (unwind-protect ...) process-send-region(# 1 332065 #) byte-code("..." [display eof-sent end start inbuf proc process-send-region process-send-eof t accept-process-output process-synchronize-point sit-for 0] 5) # (condition-case ... . ((quit (byte-code "€Ã€Ä\n\"¨ €¬¤€Å\n!¨€Æ\n!¨€Ç\n!¨€«u€È€É!¨€ªo" [display eof-sent proc process-send-signal SIGINT process-send-eof accept-process-output process-synchronize-point sit-for 0] 3)))) # bind (eof-sent) byte-code("..." [eof-sent inbuf stderr no-wait errbuf proc set-process-sentinel lambda (proc status) (set-process-sentinel proc nil) (process-synchronize-point proc) with-current-buffer write-region-internal 1 (1+ (buffer-size)) (nil (quote major-rms-kludge-city) nil coding-system-for-write) kill-buffer # nil (byte-code " €«§€Æ \n $¨€Ç!¨€È€É!¨€Ê!¨€«u€Ë€Ì!¨€ªo" [display eof-sent end start inbuf proc process-send-region process-send-eof t accept-process-output process-synchronize-point sit-for 0] 5) ((quit (byte-code "€Ã€Ä\n\"¨ €¬¤€Å\n!¨€Æ\n!¨€Ç\n!¨€«u€È€É!¨€ªo" [display eof-sent proc process-send-signal SIGINT process-send-eof accept-process-output process-synchronize-point sit-for 0] 3))) process-send-region process-send-eof start end] 14) # (catch call-process-done ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (stderr) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (proc inbuf errbuf kill-inbuf kill-errbuf no-wait start end args display buffer infile program) call-process-internal("/bin/bash" (# 1 332065) t nil "-c" "gzip --decompress --quiet") apply(call-process-internal "/bin/bash" (# 1 332065) t nil ("-c" "gzip --decompress --quiet")) # bind (coding-system-for-read coding-system-for-write cs-r cs-w args displayp buffer infile program) call-process("/bin/bash" (# 1 332065) t nil "-c" "gzip --decompress --quiet") apply(call-process "/bin/bash" (# 1 332065) t nil ("-c" "gzip --decompress --quiet")) # bind (s e args displayp buffer deletep program end start) call-process-region(1 332065 "/bin/bash" t t nil "-c" "gzip --decompress --quiet") # bind (prog args) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (saved-point decode end start) crypt-encode-region(1 332065 t) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (buffer decode) crypt-encode-buffer(t) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (saved-point buffer-file-name old-buffer-file-name old-buffer-modified-p case-fold-search encrypted encoded buffer-read-only) crypt-find-file-hook() run-hooks(crypt-find-file-hook) # bind (nomodes after-find-file-from-revert-buffer noauto warn error) after-find-file(nil t) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (inhibit-read-only error number truename rawfile nowarn filename buf) find-file-noselect-1(# "/home/jcb/Language/Chinese/cedict.b5.gz" nil nil "/home/jcb/Language/Chinese/cedict.b5.gz" (210655 774)) byte-code("..." [number truename rawfile nowarn filename buf set-buffer-major-mode find-file-noselect-1] 7) # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code "€Â!¨€Ã @ A\"§" [buf data kill-buffer signal] 3)))) # bind (number truename buf wildcards rawfile nowarn filename) find-file-noselect("~/Language/Chinese/cedict.b5.gz" nil nil t) # bind (wildcards codesys filename) #("~/Language/Chinese/cedict.b5.gz" nil t) call-interactively(find-file) # bind (coding-system-for-read coding-system-for-write cmd keyseq coding-system default) #() call-interactively(universal-coding-system-argument) (dispatch-event "[internal]") # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Broken pipe uname -a: Linux feijoa.lan 2.4.20jcb2 #8 Thu Jul 3 22:13:37 BST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux ./configure '--dynamic' '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/xemacs/xemacs-21.5.16 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wpacked -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -g -O3 Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. TTY: Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling without XPM image support. WARNING: You should strongly consider installing XPM. WARNING: Otherwise toolbars and other graphics will look suboptimal. WARNING: (a copy may be found in ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/aux) WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: pgsql/libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 23 17:45:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANMj2v24693; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:45:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANMinG24580 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:44:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hANMimh24567 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:44:48 -0500 Received: from goliath.mtaonline.net (mail.mtaonline.net [12.6.42.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hANMiRv24501 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:44:36 -0500 Received: from linus.johnson.com (rdbck-842.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.104.79.82]) by goliath.mtaonline.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hANMiFMg024902 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:44:15 -0900 (AKST) Received: from linus.johnson.com (linus.johnson.com [127.0.0.1]) by linus.johnson.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hANMp7tR017097 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:51:07 -0900 Received: (from tim@localhost) by linus.johnson.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hANMp77E017093; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:51:07 -0900 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:51:07 -0900 Message-Id: <200311232251.hANMp77E017093@linus.johnson.com> From: To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.12] Can't Change Font Size X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I can't change any font sizes or font types. Either action results in the the following error message: Malformed property list: (nil), (nil) In additon to the system info below, I am using KDE. Tim Johnson tim@johnsons-web.com ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux porky.devel.redhat.com 2.4.20-2.48bigmem #1 SMP Thu Feb 13 11:31:10 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux ./configure 'i386-redhat-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--libdir=/usr/lib' '--mandir=/usr/share/man/man1' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--with-gpm=no' '--with-sound=native' '--with-pop' '--mail-locking=lockf' '--with-clash-detection' '--debug=no' '--error-checking=none' '--with-mule=yes' '--with-database=berkdb' '--with-ldap=yes' '--with-hesiod=no' '--with-canna=yes' '--with-wnn=yes' '--with-widgets=motif' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-scrollbars=lucid' '--with-dialogs=motif' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-msw=no' '--with-xfs=yes' '--pdump' XEmacs 21.4.12 "Portable Code" configured for `i386-redhat-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/build/225655-i386/BUILD/xemacs-21.4.12 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 -g Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for the WNN input method on Mule. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "lockf" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/local/share/emacs/21.2/site-lisp/bigloo/id-select /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edit-utils/id-select /home/tim/prj/emacs/lisp/make-regexp /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ess/make-regexp /home/tim/prj/emacs/lisp/python-mode /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/python-modes/python-mode /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/timezone /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/timezone /usr/local/share/emacs/21.2/site-lisp/bigloo/etags /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.12/lisp/etags /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.12/lisp/build-report /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/alist /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.12/lisp/alist) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.04 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.5 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.75 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.07 :type regular) (viper :version 1.35 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.16 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.35 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.11 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.35 :type regular) (time :version 1.12 :type regular) (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.58 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.23 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) (sml-mode :version 0.07000000000000001 :type regular) (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) (sieve :version 1.11 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular) (sasl :version 1.12 :type regular) (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.28 :type regular) (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.38 :type regular) (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .72 :type single-file) (pgg :version 1.02 :type regular) (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.3 :type single-file) (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1.31 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.17 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.56 :type regular) (liece :version 1.1 :type regular) (jde :version 1.43 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.29 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.28 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.18 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.65 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.13 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.37 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (ess :version 1.03 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.04 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (efs :version 1.29 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.98 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.46 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.15 :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.12 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.01 :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.13 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.11 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.04 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.32 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.19 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.21 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.33 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (mule-ucs :version 1.04 :type regular) (mule-base :version 1.42 :type regular) (lookup :version 1.13 :type regular) (locale :version 1.2 :type regular) (leim :version 1.2 :type regular) (latin-unity :version 1.07 :type regular) (egg-its :version 1.26 :type regular) (edict :version 1.13 :type regular)) Installed 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prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads mule-ucs-autoloads mule-base-autoloads lookup-autoloads locale-autoloads leim-autoloads latin-unity-autoloads egg-its-autoloads edict-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 canna-leim slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp postgresqlv7 postgresql CANNA file-coding wnn mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user button1 button1up f1 a r e b o l RET misc-user button1 button1up misc-user button1 button1up misc-user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Malformed property list: (nil), (nil) Changing font of `comint-input-face'... Changing font of `dired-face-symlink'... Changing font of `pointer'... Changing font of `dired-face-flagged'... Changing font of `makefile-space-face'... Changing font of `shell-output-3-face'... Changing font of `paren-mismatch'... Changing font of `blue'... Changing font of `font-lock-doc-string-face'... Changing font of `font-lock-function-name-face'... Changing font of `gui-button-face'... Changing font of `widget-button-face'... Changing font of `modeline-mousable-minor-mode'... Changing font of `left-margin'... Changing font of `bold'... Changing font of `hyper-apropos-heading'... Changing font of `vvb-face'... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 24 05:24:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOAO2v25889; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:24:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOANCA25759 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:23:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOAN8v25750 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:23:08 -0500 Received: from ROSMIME02.enterprise.veritas.com (skyway-bridge.veritas.com [143.127.131.4]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOAN6v25745 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:23:07 -0500 Received: from ROSXCHCON2.enterprise.veritas.com (unverified) by ROSMIME02.enterprise.veritas.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.10) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:23:06 -0600 Received: from veritas.com ([10.137.110.19]) by ROSXCHCON2.enterprise.veritas.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:23:05 -0600 Message-ID: <3FC1DC01.6090205@veritas.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:22:57 -0600 From: Mike Spertus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cygwin XEmacs cut-and-past broken on Win2000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010600090909070602050304" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2003 10:23:05.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[F293AA60:01C3B274] X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010600090909070602050304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! As has been confirmed by Thomas Link and I in comp.emacs.xemacs, XEmacs does not use the Windows clipboard for cut-and-paste on Win2K. It does use it correctly on WinXP. See the thread for more info. Mike ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.20(0.73/3/2) 2003-02-08 12:10 i686 unknown unknown Cygwin ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. Using MS-Windows menubars. Using MS-Windows scrollbars. Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. Using MS-Windows native widgets. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for file coding. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular) (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.14 :type regular) (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) (time :version 1.13 :type regular) (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.63 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.24 :type 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:type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular) (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.23 :type regular) (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.6 :type regular) (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (efs :version 1.29 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.18 :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.1 :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.13 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.39 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 func-menu font disp-table font-lock paren blink-paren p4 cus-face zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- misc-user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Loading font...done Loading font... Paren mode is paren Loading paren...done Loading paren... Loading p4...done Loading p4... Loading cus-face...done Loading cus-face... --------------010600090909070602050304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ================================================================
    Dear Bug Team!
    As has been confirmed by Thomas Link and I in comp.emacs.xemacs, XEmacs does not use the Windows clipboard for cut-and-paste on Win2K. It does use it correctly on WinXP. See the thread for more info.

    Mike

    ================================================================

    System Info to help track down your bug:
    ---------------------------------------

    uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.20(0.73/3/2) 2003-02-08 12:10 i686 unknown unknown Cygwin

    ./configure  '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall'


    XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'.


    Compilation / Installation:
      Source code location:              /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release
      Installation prefix:               /usr/local
      Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h'
      Machine description file:          `m/intel386.h'
      Compiler:                          gcc -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith
      Relocating allocator for buffers:  no
      GNU version of malloc:             yes

    Window System:
      Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system.
      Using MS-Windows menubars.
      Using MS-Windows scrollbars.
      Using MS-Windows dialog boxes.
      Using MS-Windows native widgets.
      Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL).
        -  Drag'n'Drop prototype:                              msw.

    TTY:
      Compiling in support for ncurses.

    Images:
      Compiling in support for GIF  images (builtin).
      Compiling in support for XPM  images.
      Compiling in support for PNG  images.
      Compiling in support for JPEG images.
      Compiling in support for TIFF images.
      Compiling in support for X-Face message headers.

    Sound:
      Compiling in support for sound (native).

    Databases:
      Compiling in support for GNU DBM.

    Internationalization:
      Compiling in support for file coding.

    Mail:
      Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval.

    Other Features:
      Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
      Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.



    Load-Path Lisp Shadows:
    ----------------------
    (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report
    /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/build-report)


    Installed XEmacs Packages:
    -------------------------

    ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (xslt-process:version 1.11 :type regular)
     (xslide:version 1.08 :type regular)
     (xemacs-devel:version 1.58 :type single-file)
     (xemacs-base:version 1.78 :type regular)
     (x-symbol:version 1.05 :type regular)
     (w3:version 1.28 :type regular)
     (vm:version 7.14 :type regular)
     (viper:version 1.36 :type regular)
     (view-process:version 1.12 :type regular)
     (vhdl:version 1.17 :type regular)
     (vc-cc:version 1.21 :type regular)
     (vc:version 1.37 :type regular)
     (tramp:version 1.16 :type regular)
     (tpu:version 1.12 :type regular)
     (tooltalk:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (tm:version 1.36 :type regular)
     (time:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (textools:version 1.14 :type regular)
     (text-modes:version 1.63 :type single-file)
     (texinfo:version 1.24 :type regular)
     (supercite:version 1.19 :type regular)
     (strokes:version 1.08 :type regular)
     (speedbar:version 1.26 :type regular)
     (sounds-wav:version 1.1 :type regular)
     (sounds-au:version 1.1 :type regular)
     (sml-mode:version 0.09 :type regular)
     (slider:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (sieve:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (sh-script:version 1.17 :type regular)
     (sgml:version 1.08 :type regular)
     (semantic:version 1.17 :type regular)
     (scheme:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (sasl:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (ruby-modes:version 1.01 :type regular)
     (rmail:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (reftex:version 1.3 :type regular)
     (python-modes:version 1.02 :type single-file)
     (psgml-dtds:version 1.02 :type regular)
     (psgml:version 1.41 :type regular)
     (ps-print:version 1.08 :type regular)
     (prog-modes
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       :type
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     (pc:version 1.25 :type single-file)
     (os-utils:version 1.32 :type single-file)
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     (ocaml:version 0.04 :type regular)
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     (igrep:version 1.1 :type regular)
     (idlwave:version 1.3 :type regular)
     (ibuffer:version 1.08 :type regular)
     (hyperbole:version 1.12 :type regular)
     (hm--html-menus:version 1.21 :type regular)
     (haskell-mode:version 1.05 :type regular)
     (gnus:version 1.71 :type regular)
     (gnats:version 1.15 :type regular)
     (games:version 1.14 :type regular)
     (fsf-compat:version 1.12 :type single-file)
     (frame-icon:version 1.09 :type regular)
     (fortran-modes:version 1.02 :type single-file)
     (forms:version 1.14 :type regular)
     (footnote:version 1.15 :type regular)
     (eudc:version 1.38 :type regular)
     (eterm:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (ess:version 1.04 :type regular)
     (eshell:version 1.05 :type regular)
     (emerge:version 1.09 :type regular)
     (elib:version 1.1 :type single-file)
     (eieio:version 1.04 :type regular)
     (efs:version 1.29 :type regular)
     (edt:version 1.12 :type regular)
     (edit-utils:version 2.07 :type single-file)
     (ediff:version 1.47 :type regular)
     (edebug:version 1.18 :type regular)
     (ecrypto:version 0.13 :type regular)
     (ecb:version 1.1 :type regular)
     (docbookide:version 0.06 :type regular)
     (dired:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (dictionary:version 1.12 :type regular)
     (debug:version 1.16 :type regular)
     (crisp:version 1.12 :type regular)
     (cookie:version 1.14 :type regular)
     (clearcase:version 1.06 :type regular)
     (cc-mode:version 1.39 :type regular)
     (calendar:version 1.21 :type regular)
     (calc:version 1.23 :type regular)
     (c-support:version 1.16 :type single-file)
     (build:version 1.1 :type regular)
     (bbdb:version 1.23 :type regular)
     (auctex:version 1.35 :type regular)
     (apel:version 1.26 :type regular)
     (ada:version 1.13 :type regular)
     (Sun:version 1.13 :type regular))


    Installed Modules:
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    (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 func-menu font
    disp-table font-lock paren blink-paren p4 cus-face zenirc-autoloads
    xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads
    xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads
    viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads
    vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads
    tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads
    texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads
    speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads
    sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads
    sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads
    sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads
    python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads
    ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads
    perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads
    pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads
    net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads
    mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads
    mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads
    ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads
    hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads
    gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads
    frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads
    footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads
    eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads
    efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads
    edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads
    dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads
    cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads
    calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads
    bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads
    Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds
    gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer
    auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete
    help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start
    custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote
    very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames
    tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast
    network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar
    dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type
    cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64)


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    --------------010600090909070602050304-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 24 11:17:18 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOGH7v03583; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:17:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOGE5O02416 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:14:05 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOGE4l02405 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:14:04 -0500 Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com ([65.206.49.195]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOGE3v02401 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:14:03 -0500 Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06541; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:14:01 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to jake.colman@xemacs.org using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: font-lock: FSF vs XEmacs X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com References: <7665hhn3gr.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <3FBA77A3.9070006@civicnet.net> <76oev9jpu8.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <76y8u9ek37.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <1xrzdo0c.fsf@engine.ecf.teradyne.com> From: Jake Colman Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:14:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1xrzdo0c.fsf@engine.ecf.teradyne.com> (Adrian Aichner's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:54:11 +0100") Message-ID: <76d6bhd9rq.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: APA> this works for me: APA> (add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook APA> '(lambda () APA> (cond ((eq major-mode 'python-mode) APA> (set (make-local-variable 'font-lock-keywords) APA> python-font-lock-keywords)) APA> ((eq major-mode 'c++-mode) APA> (set (make-local-variable 'font-lock-keywords) APA> (append c++-font-lock-keywords APA> '(("\\<\\(foreach\\)\\>" (1 font-lock-keyword-face t))))))))) APA> I guess appending to c++-font-lock-keywords requires some APA> reinitialization for it to update 'font-lock-keywords in c++-mode. APA> I haven't spend the time to find that out, but the above seems to work APA> just as well. APA> Hope this helps, Yup, it does! Thanks. If you ever do figure out why it has to be done this way and not in a cc-mode hook, it would be great to know. Thanks again! -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 24 13:24:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOIO5v32359; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:24:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOINbA32281 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:23:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOINXD32274 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:23:33 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOINQv32251; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:23:26 -0500 Received: from sfwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AOLMr-0001RK-00; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:23:25 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (SrlzbZZfZeKdQjb9xSpoUp1TUiHIXHUAugVdLUuF0JCWpav-I+AwEE@[80.128.62.101]) by afwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AOLMa-1JZTVI0; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:23:08 +0100 To: Mike Spertus Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cygwin XEmacs cut-and-past broken on Win2000 X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:23:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3FC1DC01.6090205@veritas.com> (Mike Spertus's message of "Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:22:57 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: SrlzbZZfZeKdQjb9xSpoUp1TUiHIXHUAugVdLUuF0JCWpav-I+AwEE X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Spertus writes: Mike> ================================================================ Mike> Dear Bug Team! As has been confirmed by Thomas Link and I Mike> in comp.emacs.xemacs, XEmacs does not use the Windows Mike> clipboard for cut-and-paste on Win2K. It does use it Mike> correctly on WinXP. See the thread Hi Mike! Hmmh, what else is different between the Win2K and WinXP installations? Are both cygwin installations (vs. native windows)? Have you already played with these? interprogram-cut-function - Function to call to make a killed region available to other programs. interprogram-paste-function - Function to call to get text cut from other programs. What are their respective values in the differently behaving installations? Best regards, Adrian Mike> Mike> for more info. Mike> Mike Mike> ================================================================ Mike> System Info to help track down your bug: Mike> --------------------------------------- Mike> uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.20(0.73/3/2) 2003-02-08 12:10 i686 Mike> unknown unknown Cygwin Mike> ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' Mike> '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' Mike> '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' Mike> XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. Mike> Compilation / Installation: Mike> Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release Mike> Installation prefix: /usr/local Mike> Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' Mike> Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Mike> Compiler: gcc Mike> -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX Mike> -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -g -O3 Mike> -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare Mike> -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith Mike> Relocating allocator for buffers: no Mike> GNU version of malloc: yes Mike> Window System: Mike> Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. Mike> Using MS-Windows menubars. Mike> Using MS-Windows scrollbars. Mike> Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. Mike> Using MS-Windows native widgets. Mike> Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). Mike> - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. Mike> TTY: Mike> Compiling in support for ncurses. Mike> Images: Mike> Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Mike> Compiling in support for XPM images. Mike> Compiling in support for PNG images. Mike> Compiling in support for JPEG images. Mike> Compiling in support for TIFF images. Mike> Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Mike> Sound: Mike> Compiling in support for sound (native). Mike> Databases: Mike> Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Mike> Internationalization: Mike> Compiling in support for file coding. Mike> Mail: Mike> Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Mike> Other Features: Mike> Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Mike> Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Mike> Load-Path Lisp Shadows: Mike> ---------------------- Mike> (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report Mike> /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/build-report) Mike> Installed XEmacs Packages: Mike> ------------------------- Mike> ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) Mike> (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) Mike> (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) Mike> (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) Mike> (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular) Mike> (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) Mike> (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) Mike> (vm :version 7.14 :type regular) Mike> (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) Mike> (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) Mike> (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) Mike> (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) Mike> (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) Mike> (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) Mike> (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) Mike> (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) Mike> (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) Mike> (time 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regular)) Mike> Installed Modules: Mike> ----------------- Mike> Features: Mike> -------- Mike> (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 func-menu font Mike> disp-table font-lock paren blink-paren p4 cus-face zenirc-autoloads Mike> xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads Mike> xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads Mike> viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads Mike> vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads Mike> tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads Mike> texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads Mike> speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads Mike> sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads Mike> sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads Mike> sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads Mike> python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads 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Mike> Loading cus-face...done Mike> Loading cus-face... -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 24 13:42:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOIg2v03801; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:42:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOIfPu03701 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:41:25 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOIfJk03674 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:41:19 -0500 Received: from ROSMIME03.enterprise.veritas.com (skyway-bridge.veritas.com [143.127.131.4]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOIf9v03648; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:41:09 -0500 Received: from ROSXCHCON2.enterprise.veritas.com (unverified) by ROSMIME03.enterprise.veritas.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.10) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:41:08 -0600 Received: from veritas.com ([172.21.52.86]) by ROSXCHCON2.enterprise.veritas.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:41:07 -0600 Message-ID: <3FC250E0.4020402@veritas.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:41:36 -0600 From: Mike Spertus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6a) Gecko/20031030 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Aichner CC: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cygwin XEmacs cut-and-past broken on Win2000 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020104040107050403050607" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2003 18:41:07.0549 (UTC) FILETIME=[85D4E8D0:01C3B2BA] X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020104040107050403050607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adrian Aichner wrote: > >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Spertus writes: > > Mike> > ================================================================ > > Mike> Dear Bug Team! As has been confirmed by Thomas Link and I > Mike> in comp.emacs.xemacs, XEmacs does not use the Windows > Mike> clipboard for cut-and-paste on Win2K. It does use it > Mike> correctly on WinXP. See the thread > > Hi Mike! > > Hmmh, what else is different between the Win2K and WinXP installations? > Both were Netinstalled cygwin versions. Thomas Link just did cygwin XEmacs netinstalls on XP and Win2K and reproduced the behavior. > Are both cygwin installations (vs. native windows)? > Yes. > Have you already played with these? > > interprogram-cut-function - Function to call to make a killed > region available to other programs. > interprogram-paste-function - Function to call to get text cut > from other programs. > I don't have an XP install at the office, but the misbehaving W2K machine says "own-clipboard". This value looks appropriate because Hyper-apropos says (I copied the following by hand because cut-and-paste don't work!): `*own-clipboard'* (buffer: *Hyper Apropos*, mode: Hyper-Apropos) /Compiled Lisp function, (loaded from "/development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release/list/select.elc) / *arguments:* (string &option push) Paste the given string to the window system Clipboard. See `interprogram-cut-function' for more information. > What are their respective values in the differently behaving > installations? > > Best regards, > > Adrian > > Mike> > > > > Mike> for more info. > > Mike> Mike > > Mike> > ================================================================ > > Mike> System Info to help track down your bug: > Mike> --------------------------------------- > > Mike> uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.20(0.73/3/2) 2003-02-08 > 12:10 i686 > Mike> unknown unknown Cygwin > > Mike> ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' > '--with-x=no' > Mike> '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' > Mike> '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' > > > Mike> XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for > `i686-pc-cygwin'. > > > Mike> Compilation / Installation: > Mike> Source code location: > /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release > Mike> Installation prefix: /usr/local > Mike> Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' > Mike> Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > Mike> Compiler: gcc > Mike> -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX > Mike> > -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -g -O3 > Mike> -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes > -Wsign-compare > Mike> -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith > Mike> Relocating allocator for buffers: no > Mike> GNU version of malloc: yes > > Mike> Window System: > Mike> Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. > Mike> Using MS-Windows menubars. > Mike> Using MS-Windows scrollbars. > Mike> Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. > Mike> Using MS-Windows native widgets. > Mike> Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). > Mike> - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. > > Mike> TTY: > Mike> Compiling in support for ncurses. > > Mike> Images: > Mike> Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > Mike> Compiling in support for XPM images. > Mike> Compiling in support for PNG images. > Mike> Compiling in support for JPEG images. > Mike> Compiling in support for TIFF images. > Mike> Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. > > Mike> Sound: > Mike> Compiling in support for sound (native). > > Mike> Databases: > Mike> Compiling in support for GNU DBM. > > Mike> Internationalization: > Mike> Compiling in support for file coding. > > Mike> Mail: > Mike> Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. > > Mike> Other Features: > Mike> Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. > Mike> Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. > > > > Mike> Load-Path Lisp Shadows: > Mike> ---------------------- > Mike> (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report > Mike> /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/build-report) > > > Mike> Installed XEmacs Packages: > Mike> ------------------------- > > Mike> ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) > Mike> (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) > Mike> (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) > Mike> (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) > Mike> (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular) > Mike> (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) > Mike> (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) > Mike> (vm :version 7.14 :type regular) > Mike> (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) > Mike> (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) > Mike> (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) > Mike> (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) > Mike> (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) > Mike> (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) > Mike> (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) > Mike> (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) > Mike> (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) > Mike> (time :version 1.13 :type regular) > Mike> (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) > Mike> (text-modes :version 1.63 :type single-file) > Mike> (texinfo :version 1.24 :type regular) > Mike> (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) > Mike> (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) > Mike> (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) > Mike> (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) > Mike> (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) > Mike> (sml-mode :version 0.09 :type regular) > Mike> (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) > Mike> (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular) > Mike> (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) > Mike> (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) > Mike> (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular) > Mike> (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular) > Mike> (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular) > Mike> (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular) > Mike> (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) > Mike> (reftex :version 1.3 :type regular) > Mike> (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) > Mike> (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular) > Mike> (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular) > Mike> (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) > Mike> (prog-modes > Mike> :version > Mike> 1 > Mike> .83 > Mike> :type > Mike> single-file) > Mike> (pgg :version 1.03 :type regular) > Mike> (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) > Mike> (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular) > Mike> (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) > Mike> (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file) > Mike> (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) > Mike> (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular) > Mike> (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) > Mike> (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) > Mike> (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) > Mike> (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) > Mike> (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) > Mike> (mh-e :version 1.23 :type regular) > Mike> (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) > Mike> (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) > Mike> (mail-lib :version 1.6 :type regular) > Mike> (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) > Mike> (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) > Mike> (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) > Mike> (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) > Mike> (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular) > Mike> (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) > Mike> (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) > Mike> (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) > Mike> (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) > Mike> (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) > Mike> (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) > Mike> (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) > Mike> (games :version 1.14 :type regular) > Mike> (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) > Mike> (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) > Mike> (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) > Mike> (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) > Mike> (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) > Mike> (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) > Mike> (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) > Mike> (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) > Mike> (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) > Mike> (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) > Mike> (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) > Mike> (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) > Mike> (efs :version 1.29 :type regular) > Mike> (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) > Mike> (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) > Mike> (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) > Mike> (edebug :version 1.18 :type regular) > Mike> (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) > Mike> (ecb :version 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blink-paren p4 cus-face > zenirc-autoloads > Mike> xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads > Mike> xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads > vm-autoloads > Mike> viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads > vc-cc-autoloads > Mike> vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads > Mike> tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads > text-modes-autoloads > Mike> texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads > Mike> speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads > Mike> sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads > Mike> sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads > scheme-autoloads > Mike> sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads > reftex-autoloads > Mike> python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads > Mike> ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads > Mike> perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads > Mike> pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads > ocaml-autoloads > Mike> net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads > Mike> mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads > Mike> mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads > ispell-autoloads > Mike> ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads > ibuffer-autoloads > Mike> hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads > haskell-mode-autoloads > Mike> gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads > fsf-compat-autoloads > Mike> frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads > Mike> footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads > Mike> eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads > eieio-autoloads > Mike> efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads > ediff-autoloads > Mike> edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads > docbookide-autoloads > Mike> dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads > crisp-autoloads > Mike> cookie-autoloads 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> Mike> misc-user > > > Mike> Recent messages (most recent first): > Mike> ----------------------------------- > > Mike> Loading xemacsbug...done > Mike> Loading xemacsbug... > Mike> Loading font...done > Mike> Loading font... > Mike> Paren mode is paren > Mike> Loading paren...done > Mike> Loading paren... > Mike> Loading p4...done > Mike> Loading p4... > Mike> Loading cus-face...done > Mike> Loading cus-face... > > > > > -- > Adrian Aichner > mailto:adrian@xemacs.org > http://www.xemacs.org/ > --------------020104040107050403050607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adrian Aichner wrote:
    Re: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cygwin XEmacs cut-and-past broken on Win2000

    >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Spertus <Mike.Spertus@veritas.com> writes:

        Mike> ================================================================

        Mike> Dear Bug Team!  As has been confirmed by Thomas Link and I
        Mike> in comp.emacs.xemacs, XEmacs does not use the Windows
        Mike> clipboard for cut-and-paste on Win2K. It does use it
        Mike> correctly on WinXP. See the thread

    Hi Mike!

    Hmmh, what else is different between the Win2K and WinXP installations?

    Both were Netinstalled cygwin versions. Thomas Link just did cygwin XEmacs netinstalls on XP and Win2K and reproduced the behavior.

    Are both cygwin installations (vs. native windows)?

    Yes.

    Have you already played with these?

       interprogram-cut-function      - Function to call to make a killed region available to other programs.
       interprogram-paste-function    - Function to call to get text cut from other programs.

    I don't have an XP install at the office, but the misbehaving W2K machine says "own-clipboard". This value looks appropriate because Hyper-apropos says (I copied the following by hand because cut-and-paste don't work!):

    `own-clipboard'  (buffer: *Hyper Apropos*, mode: Hyper-Apropos)

    Compiled Lisp function,
    (loaded from "/development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release/list/select.elc)

      arguments: (string &option push)

      Paste the given string to the window system Clipboard.
      See `interprogram-cut-function' for more information.

    What are their respective values in the differently behaving
    installations?

    Best regards,

    Adrian

        Mike> <http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=4bb78b23.0311231643.7068e08d%40posting.google.com&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.emacs.xemacs>

        Mike> for more info.

        Mike> Mike

        Mike> ================================================================

        Mike> System Info to help track down your bug:
        Mike> ---------------------------------------

        Mike> uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.20(0.73/3/2) 2003-02-08 12:10 i686
        Mike> unknown unknown Cygwin

        Mike> ./configure  '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no'
        Mike> '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes'
        Mike> '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall'


        Mike> XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'.


        Mike> Compilation / Installation:
        Mike>   Source code location:              /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release
        Mike>   Installation prefix:               /usr/local
        Mike>   Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h'
        Mike>   Machine description file:          `m/intel386.h'
        Mike>   Compiler:                          gcc
        Mike>   -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX
        Mike>   -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -g -O3
        Mike>   -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare
        Mike>   -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith
        Mike>   Relocating allocator for buffers:  no
        Mike>   GNU version of malloc:             yes

        Mike> Window System:
        Mike>   Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system.
        Mike>   Using MS-Windows menubars.
        Mike>   Using MS-Windows scrollbars.
        Mike>   Using MS-Windows dialog boxes.
        Mike>   Using MS-Windows native widgets.
        Mike>   Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL).
        Mike>     -  Drag'n'Drop prototype:                              msw.

        Mike> TTY:
        Mike>   Compiling in support for ncurses.

        Mike> Images:
        Mike>   Compiling in support for GIF  images (builtin).
        Mike>   Compiling in support for XPM  images.
        Mike>   Compiling in support for PNG  images.
        Mike>   Compiling in support for JPEG images.
        Mike>   Compiling in support for TIFF images.
        Mike>   Compiling in support for X-Face message headers.

        Mike> Sound:
        Mike>   Compiling in support for sound (native).

        Mike> Databases:
        Mike>   Compiling in support for GNU DBM.

        Mike> Internationalization:
        Mike>   Compiling in support for file coding.

        Mike> Mail:
        Mike>   Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval.

        Mike> Other Features:
        Mike>   Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
        Mike>   Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.



        Mike> Load-Path Lisp Shadows:
        Mike> ----------------------
        Mike> (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report
        Mike> /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/build-report)


        Mike> Installed XEmacs Packages:
        Mike> -------------------------

        Mike> ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular)
        Mike>  (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular)
        Mike>  (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular)
        Mike>  (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular)
        Mike>  (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular)
        Mike>  (vm :version 7.14 :type regular)
        Mike>  (viper :version 1.36 :type regular)
        Mike>  (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular)
        Mike>  (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular)
        Mike>  (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular)
        Mike>  (vc :version 1.37 :type regular)
        Mike>  (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular)
        Mike>  (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular)
        Mike>  (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (tm :version 1.36 :type regular)
        Mike>  (time :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (textools :version 1.14 :type regular)
        Mike>  (text-modes :version 1.63 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (texinfo :version 1.24 :type regular)
        Mike>  (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular)
        Mike>  (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular)
        Mike>  (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular)
        Mike>  (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular)
        Mike>  (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular)
        Mike>  (sml-mode :version 0.09 :type regular)
        Mike>  (slider :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular)
        Mike>  (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular)
        Mike>  (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular)
        Mike>  (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular)
        Mike>  (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (reftex :version 1.3 :type regular)
        Mike>  (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular)
        Mike>  (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular)
        Mike>  (prog-modes
        Mike>   :version
        Mike>    1
        Mike>    .83
        Mike>     :type
        Mike>      single-file)
        Mike>  (pgg :version 1.03 :type regular)
        Mike>  (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular)
        Mike>  (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular)
        Mike>  (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular)
        Mike>  (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular)
        Mike>  (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (mine :version 1.14 :type regular)
        Mike>  (mh-e :version 1.23 :type regular)
        Mike>  (mew :version 1.17 :type regular)
        Mike>  (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular)
        Mike>  (mail-lib :version 1.6 :type regular)
        Mike>  (liece :version 1.12 :type regular)
        Mike>  (jde :version 1.45 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular)
        Mike>  (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular)
        Mike>  (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular)
        Mike>  (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular)
        Mike>  (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular)
        Mike>  (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular)
        Mike>  (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular)
        Mike>  (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular)
        Mike>  (games :version 1.14 :type regular)
        Mike>  (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular)
        Mike>  (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (forms :version 1.14 :type regular)
        Mike>  (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular)
        Mike>  (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular)
        Mike>  (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ess :version 1.04 :type regular)
        Mike>  (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular)
        Mike>  (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular)
        Mike>  (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular)
        Mike>  (efs :version 1.29 :type regular)
        Mike>  (edt :version 1.12 :type regular)
        Mike>  (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular)
        Mike>  (edebug :version 1.18 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ecb :version 1.1 :type regular)
        Mike>  (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular)
        Mike>  (dired :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular)
        Mike>  (debug :version 1.16 :type regular)
        Mike>  (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular)
        Mike>  (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular)
        Mike>  (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular)
        Mike>  (cc-mode :version 1.39 :type regular)
        Mike>  (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular)
        Mike>  (calc :version 1.23 :type regular)
        Mike>  (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file)
        Mike>  (build :version 1.1 :type regular)
        Mike>  (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular)
        Mike>  (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular)
        Mike>  (apel :version 1.26 :type regular)
        Mike>  (ada :version 1.13 :type regular)
        Mike>  (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular))


        Mike> Installed Modules:
        Mike> -----------------


        Mike> Features:
        Mike> --------

        Mike> (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 func-menu font
        Mike> disp-table font-lock paren blink-paren p4 cus-face zenirc-autoloads
        Mike> xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads
        Mike> xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads
        Mike> viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads
        Mike> vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads
        Mike> tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads
        Mike> texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads
        Mike> speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads
        Mike> sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads
        Mike> sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads
        Mike> sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads
        Mike> python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads
        Mike> ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads
        Mike> perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads
        Mike> pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads
        Mike> net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads
        Mike> mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads
        Mike> mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads
        Mike> ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads
        Mike> hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads
        Mike> gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads
        Mike> frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads
        Mike> footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads
        Mike> eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads
        Mike> efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads
        Mike> edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads
        Mike> dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads
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        Mike> calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads
        Mike> bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads
        Mike> Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds
        Mike> gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer
        Mike> auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete
        Mike> help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start
        Mike> custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote
        Mike> very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames
        Mike> tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast
        Mike> network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar
        Mike> dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type
        Mike> cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64)


        Mike> Recent keystrokes:
        Mike> -----------------

        Mike> misc-user


        Mike> Recent messages (most recent first):
        Mike> -----------------------------------

        Mike> Loading xemacsbug...done
        Mike> Loading xemacsbug...
        Mike> Loading font...done
        Mike> Loading font...
        Mike> Paren mode is paren
        Mike> Loading paren...done
        Mike> Loading paren...
        Mike> Loading p4...done
        Mike> Loading p4...
        Mike> Loading cus-face...done
        Mike> Loading cus-face...




    --
    Adrian Aichner
     mailto:adrian@xemacs.org
     http://www.xemacs.org/


    --------------020104040107050403050607-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 24 13:50:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOIo1v06114; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:50:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOInYH06034 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:49:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOInJd05987 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:49:19 -0500 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.139]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAOInHv05981 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:49:17 -0500 Received: from adsl-64-165-213-74.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO psaux.com) (tim.showalter@sbcglobal.net@64.165.213.74 with plain) by smtp1.bt.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2003 18:49:16 -0000 Message-ID: <3FC252A9.9020802@psaux.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:49:13 -0800 From: Tim Showalter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] menus span monitor borders on Xinerama References: <87smkhyoa1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <87smkhyoa1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>>"Tim" == Tim Showalter writes: > > > Tim> Hi--I'm running the Pink Tie (Red Hat) build of XEmacs. I > Tim> have a dual-head setup running Xinerama. > > Tim> If the XEmacs window happens to be near the seam between my > Tim> computer's left head and right head, and I click a menubar > Tim> item, the menu window can be placed on the seam between my > Tim> monitors. This is annoying and hard to read. > > Uh, what are we supposed to do about this? I thought the point of > Xinerama was that applications see one big screen. If you had > multiple screens, XEmacs would do the right thing; menus are not > placed outside the screen (unless they're actually bigger than the > screen). Well, don't place the menu across the screen boundary. It's an additional constraint. The newer Xinerama APIs have ability to query the server and find out where the monitor boundaries are. (Newer versions of xscreensaver use these to good effect, as does at least metacity.) Mozilla, for instance, will always place the whole menu on one monitor (although it seems to get this wrong if the menubar spans monitors). I'm sorry--I know it's trivial. The last comment was supposed to emphasize that I know that, but it doesn't, and I apologize for that Thank you! Tim From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 24 17:44:47 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOMh3v27226; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:43:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOMgce27160 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:42:38 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAOMfVZ26984 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:41:31 -0500 Received: from filter3.hurontel.on.ca (filter3.hurontel.on.ca [216.46.129.218]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAOMfUv26979 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:41:30 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by filter3.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10/8.12.6) id hAOMfLAw029947 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:41:21 -0500 Received: from filter3.hurontel.on.ca (dial-cvx-54.hay.net [216.46.130.54]) by filter3.hurontel.on.ca (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAOLZvFd030176; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:35:59 -0500 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Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cygwin XEmacs cut-and-past broken on Win2000 To: Mike Spertus , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: <3FC1DC01.6090205@veritas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Mike, This appears to be something in your configuration. I just ran the net installer to install the cygwin build of 21.4.13 on two separate windows 2000 boxes, and cut-n-paste works perfectly with the windows clipboard on both machines. Perhaps you're loading something in your init file that's fouling up the clipboard interaction? --Rick --- Mike Spertus wrote: > ================================================================ > Dear Bug Team! > As has been confirmed by Thomas Link and I in comp.emacs.xemacs, XEmacs > does not use the Windows clipboard for cut-and-paste on Win2K. It does > use it correctly on WinXP. See the thread > > > for more info. > > Mike > > ================================================================ > > System Info to help track down your bug: > --------------------------------------- > > uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.20(0.73/3/2) 2003-02-08 12:10 i686 > unknown unknown Cygwin > > ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' > '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' > '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' > > > XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. > > > Compilation / Installation: > Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release > Installation prefix: /usr/local > Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > Compiler: gcc > -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX > -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -g -O3 > -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare 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Nov 2003 20:01:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP10en24579 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:00:40 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP10cf24547 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:00:38 -0500 Received: from enki.rimspace.net (130.146.174.203.mel.ntt.net.au [203.174.146.130] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP10bv24538 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:00:37 -0500 Received: by enki.rimspace.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 21EB1500DF8; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:00:36 +1100 (EST) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: `call-process-region' bug? From: Daniel Pittman Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:00:36 +1100 Message-ID: <87k75p5kjv.fsf@enki.rimspace.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I use the `w3m' emacs integration package, together with w3mmee(1), to render HTML to text under XEmacs. Rather, I have just started to, after using w3m(1) to do so previously. I use XEmacs "21.5 (beta16) \"celeriac\" (+CVS-20031124) XEmacs Lucid" under Linux. In doing this, I found that w3mmee(1) wouldn't give any output from the HTML rendering, which w3m(1) did. This was ... odd. I traced through the code and found out why. The w3m.el package uses the function `call-process-region' with the DELETE argument set to true. When this call is made, `point' is *not* at `point-min' in the work buffer. The region passed is the full buffer, though. The code for `call-process-region' is: (let ((s (and deletep (copy-marker start t))) (e (and deletep (copy-marker end)))) (let ((retval (apply #'call-process program (list (current-buffer) start end) buffer displayp args))) ;; If start and end were the same originally, s will be beyond e now (if (and deletep (> e s)) (delete-region s e)) retval))) The 's' marker is, as far as I can tell, expected to move when the output is inserted. Unfortunately, as (point) is not (point-min), the output is inserted *after* 's' but before 'e'. The net result of this is that /all/ the content is removed, not just the old content. I have worked around this by modifying the w3m.el package to call `(goto-char (point-min))' before calling `call-process-region', but this feels like a work-around to code that does not do what is expected. Is this intentional? I suspect that this works by chance, rather than design, for most callers. Would the correct fix be to put point at the marker 's' in the `call-process-region' code? Daniel -- Never stop questioning -- curiosity has its own reason for existence. -- Albert Einstein From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 24 20:32:29 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP1V2v30963; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:31:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP1Unc30917 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:30:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP1UkV30896 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:30:46 -0500 Received: from washington.hostforweb.net (washington.hostforweb.net [69.61.11.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP1Ujv30889 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:30:45 -0500 Received: from yamaoka by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AOS2G-0006N2-91; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:30:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:29:48 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: Daniel Pittman Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-w3m@namazu.org Subject: Re: `call-process-region' bug? References: <87k75p5kjv.fsf@enki.rimspace.net> Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uU/Nwvbf3nXC4okl3+0nV9qzrdE= X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031125:daniel@rimspace.net:c32745e664067114 X-Hashcash: 0:031125:daniel@rimspace.net:c32745e664067114 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031125:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:90a5623b59248bb6 X-Hashcash: 0:031125:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org:90a5623b59248bb6 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:031125:emacs-w3m@namazu.org:8607427589d21f55 X-Hashcash: 0:031125:emacs-w3m@namazu.org:8607427589d21f55 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32041 32041] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - washington.hostforweb.net X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I reported the same problem 4 days ago and made a change to the emacs-w3m CVS trunk so that a point may move to the end of the region just before calling call-process-region. However, please don't use the latest emacs-w3m CVS since it is currently buggy for asynchronous processes. I'll announce when it is fixed. >>>>> In <87k75p5kjv.fsf@enki.rimspace.net> >>>>> Daniel Pittman wrote: > I use the `w3m' emacs integration package, together with w3mmee(1), to > render HTML to text under XEmacs. Rather, I have just started to, after > using w3m(1) to do so previously. > I use XEmacs "21.5 (beta16) \"celeriac\" (+CVS-20031124) XEmacs Lucid" > under Linux. > In doing this, I found that w3mmee(1) wouldn't give any output from the > HTML rendering, which w3m(1) did. This was ... odd. > I traced through the code and found out why. The w3m.el package uses the > function `call-process-region' with the DELETE argument set to true. > When this call is made, `point' is *not* at `point-min' in the work > buffer. The region passed is the full buffer, though. > The code for `call-process-region' is: > (let ((s (and deletep (copy-marker start t))) > (e (and deletep (copy-marker end)))) > (let ((retval > (apply #'call-process program (list (current-buffer) start end) > buffer displayp args))) > ;; If start and end were the same originally, s will be beyond e now > (if (and deletep (> e s)) > (delete-region s e)) > retval))) > The 's' marker is, as far as I can tell, expected to move when the > output is inserted. > Unfortunately, as (point) is not (point-min), the output is inserted > *after* 's' but before 'e'. > The net result of this is that /all/ the content is removed, not just > the old content. > I have worked around this by modifying the w3m.el package to call > `(goto-char (point-min))' before calling `call-process-region', but this > feels like a work-around to code that does not do what is expected. > Is this intentional? I suspect that this works by chance, rather than > design, for most callers. > Would the correct fix be to put point at the marker 's' in the > `call-process-region' code? > Daniel > -- > Never stop questioning -- curiosity has its own reason for existence. > -- Albert Einstein From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 24 20:55:31 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP1s1v02712; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:54:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP1rjC02629 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:53:45 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP1rht02621 for turnbull@tux.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:53:43 -0500 Received: from enki.rimspace.net (130.146.174.203.mel.ntt.net.au [203.174.146.130] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP1rgv02617 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:53:42 -0500 Received: by enki.rimspace.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2EE00500DF8; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:53:41 +1100 (EST) To: Katsumi Yamaoka Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-w3m@namazu.org Subject: Re: `call-process-region' bug? In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:29:48 +0900") References: <87k75p5kjv.fsf@enki.rimspace.net> From: Daniel Pittman Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:53:41 +1100 Message-ID: <87brr15i3e.fsf@enki.rimspace.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: > I reported the same problem 4 days ago and made a change to the > emacs-w3m CVS trunk so that a point may move to the end of the > region just before calling call-process-region. However, please > don't use the latest emacs-w3m CVS since it is currently buggy > for asynchronous processes. I'll announce when it is fixed. Thanks. I will keep using my local patch, since I use the Debian package of the w3m-el files. I will file a wishlist bug with them to upgrade to the next release when available, though, to try and get it flushed out. I still suspect that this is an XEmacs issue, though, since it seems counter-intuitive to me (and looks like a change in behavior) to act this way. 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Turnbull" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:21:00 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:58:32 +0100") Message-ID: <87y8u5t1df.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: APA> What about moving the functionality out of core to the APA> xemacs-base package? This will surely cause hard-to-explain bugs in older installations as the xemacs-base version diverges from the old core version. (I think in this case the syntax error will be easy to interpret, but suppose later changes involve an incorrect result, not a syntax error?) The point of the "back-to-the-future" package is to ensure warnings or errors when the packaged version is unavailable. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 01:42:28 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP6f1v23227; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:41:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP6eFM23098 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:40:15 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP6eCf23076 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:40:12 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP6eBv23072 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:40:12 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOWrn-0001Ec-00; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:40:07 +0900 To: Tobias Alexander Muresianu Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: fatal crash while typing References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:40:07 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Tobias Alexander Muresianu's message of "Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:17:05 -0500 (EST)") Message-ID: <87u14tt0hk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Tobias" == Tobias Alexander Muresianu writes: Tobias> I was minding my own business writing my cs031 project, Tobias> and bam! segfault. Using what mode? Tobias> here's a a list of the last couple errors from xemacs Tobias> which were printed out in the console, I'm not sure if Tobias> they are relevant or not but who knows? Tobias> xemacs: X Error of failed request: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) They might be. However, these are notoriously hard to track. Did you give us _all_ of the errors? In particular, were there any BadFont or BadWindow errors in the errors? Also, note that normally XEmacs should not print errors to the console at all; we try to trap them and and pass them to Lisp error-reporting mechanisms, and print in a warnings buffer. So if you're seeing errors on console, either they're coming from a very low-level module that XEmacs has little control of (such as libX11) or XEmacs is in a potentially unstable state for some other reason. Unless you're pretty familiar with internals (or have specific information about a particular error message), the safest thing to do is save your buffers, exit, and restart if you see output on the console. Since you're using a precompiled, stripped binary with no error-checking or debug information, there's not much we can do. I can only recommend upgrading to a more recent version of XEmacs (we're currently on 21.4.14, I don't know what Debian supplies). Tobias> System Info to help track down your bug: Tobias> --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux eeyore 2.4.19-pre5-eeyore #1 Fri Apr 5 00:42:42 EST 2002 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-sound=none,native' '--cflags=-O2 -g -Wall' '--with-x11' '--extra-verbose' '--with-site-lisp' '--statedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/xemacs-21.4.6' '--prefix=/usr' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--dynamic' '--without-postgresql' '--with-gpm=no' '--with_menubars=lucid' '--with_scrollbars=lucid' '--with_dialogs=athena' '--docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.6/i386-debian-linux/mule/' '--with-mule' '--with-canna=no' '--with-wnn=no' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-xfs' '--package-path=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages:~/.xemacs/xemacs-packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/mule-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' 'i386-debian-linux' XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" configured for `i386-debian-linux'. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 02:10:37 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP791v29286; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:09:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP78ii29226 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:08:44 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP78gq29217 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:08:42 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP78fv29212 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:08:41 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOXJD-0001LA-00; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:08:27 +0900 To: Tim Showalter Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] menus span monitor borders on Xinerama References: <87smkhyoa1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3FC252A9.9020802@psaux.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:08:27 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3FC252A9.9020802@psaux.com> (Tim Showalter's message of "Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:49:13 -0800") Message-ID: <87ptfhsz6c.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Showalter writes: Tim> The newer Xinerama APIs have ability to query the server and Tim> find out where the monitor boundaries are. (Newer versions Tim> of xscreensaver use these to good effect, as does at least Tim> metacity.) XEmacs isn't a Xinerama application; it's an Xt application. It makes a lot of sense for screen-savers and window managers to be Xinerama- aware, but an ordinary app? Really, this is a deficiency in pop-up management and probably should be handled by fixing Xt or the ICCCM (the standard that defines window manager functionality, to a great extent). That said, simple or well-modularized code to handle the Xinerama APIs would surely be added to 21.5 (devel branch), although it's doubtful for 21.4. (We can cross that bridge when the code is contributed.) Another possibility just struck me. Is it true that XEmacs frames are never placed across monitor boundaries? If so, it would probably be easy to ensure that menus are always placed inside the frame (although I think this is quite ugly, and accessing Xinerama functionality preferable). For these purposes XEmacs is generally not too hard to hack. From your description, I would guess that you probably just need to add code to initialize the Xinerama extension (this might be hard to do right in XEmacs, but it's the kind of thing a core XEmacs hacker can probably help with at very little time cost), and a conditional call to the Xinerama API in the menu-popping code. If you've done any X programming at all, or if you want to try something new, I encourage you to try it. Or if you know the hackers who wrote the code for xscreensaver or metacity, I encourage you to ask them to help with XEmacs. But it's unlikely that a core hacker would volunteer to write the code, because it involves the time to research the Xinerama API, fiddle with stupid undocumented restrictions (I don't know about Xinerama, but diagnosing a SUR in XIM is how I got started hacking XEmacs---X11 is full of them!), and dealing with initial testing (acquiring a monitor, installing Xinerama, etc). But these (with advice from other Xinerama hackers and XEmacs maintainers) are stuff you already mostly have, or can relatively easily get. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 02:36:28 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP7Z1v02548; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:35:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP7YmO02498 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:34:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP7Yl302489 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:34:47 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP7Ykv02485 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:34:46 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOXiY-0001OG-00; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:34:38 +0900 To: Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] Can't Change Font Size References: <200311232251.hANMp77E017093@linus.johnson.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:34:38 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200311232251.hANMp77E017093@linus.johnson.com> (tim@johnsons-web.com's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:51:07 -0900") Message-ID: <87d6bgucj5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "tim" == tim writes: tim> I can't change any font sizes or font types. tim> Either action results in the the following error tim> message: tim> Malformed property list: (nil), (nil) Please set debug-on-error to t, try again, and send us the resulting backtrace. (Either use M-: or the Options | Troubleshooting menu.) tim> In additon to the system info below, I am using KDE. You might want to see if there's a RPM for 21.4.14---it's been out for a while now. What version of Red Hat are you using? Can you start up without KDE and run XEmacs, and see what happens? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 02:40:27 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP7d1v03203; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:39:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP7ch203151 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:38:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP7cgO03142 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:38:42 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP7cgv03138 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:38:42 -0500 Received: from p5083105e.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.16.94] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOXmT-000OPI-E9 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:38:41 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AOXou-0003cI-LE for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:41:12 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Would like to import new package: ERC References: From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Adrian Aichner's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:12:06 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: Hello Adrian, > I have an XEmacs ERC IRC package working quite well under 21.4.14 > non-mule and 21.5.16 mule. Good news! > I would like to import that into xemacs-packages/erc. Absolutely no objections from my side. You're familiar with the package structure and hold enough might at your fingertips that you can set up most (all) of the things by yourself (lucky me :-)). If you need any help, just flap my ears. [...] > Please advise, Don't dream it, be it :) norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 02:45:28 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP7i1v04127; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:44:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP7hrH04087 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:43:53 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP7hq704079 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:43:52 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP7hqv04073 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:43:52 -0500 Received: from p5083105e.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.16.94] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOXrT-000P4q-Bj for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:43:51 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AOXtu-0003cV-GQ for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:46:22 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Future package: proposed content References: <87y8u5t1df.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:21:00 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > This will surely cause hard-to-explain bugs in older installations as > the xemacs-base version diverges from the old core version. (I think > in this case the syntax error will be easy to interpret, but suppose > later changes involve an incorrect result, not a syntax error?) > > The point of the "back-to-the-future" package is to ensure warnings or > errors when the packaged version is unavailable. Do we need a separate package for this or could we stick these things into xemacs-base which has versions too? If I'm not mistaken xemacs-base would depend on the b-t-t-f package, wouldn't it? This implies, sort of, that the user would have to download three packages in order to get the whole thing rolling. But my mind might not grasp the full picture of it. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 02:48:28 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP7l1v05306; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:47:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP7kCp05176 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:46:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP7kAU05166 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:46:10 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP7kAv05162 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:46:10 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOXqa-0001Pc-00; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:42:56 +0900 To: Julian Bradfield Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: 21.5.16: crash visiting gzipped big5 file References: <16321.13719.488173.68465@toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:42:56 +0900 In-Reply-To: <16321.13719.488173.68465@toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk> (Julian Bradfield's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:32:55 +0000") Message-ID: <878ym4uc5b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Julian" == Julian Bradfield writes: Julian> The following crash (no core dump was made) was provoked thus: Please do $ gdb /path/to/xemacs (gdb) run -q elicit the crash, (gdb) bt and send us the results. On my system, $ gdb /path/to/xemacs | tee xemacs.bt Does The Right Thing. Julian> cedict.b5 is the well-known Chinese dictionary in big5. http://ftp.cc.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/cedictb5.zip? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 04:42:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP9g1v28183; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:42:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP9fbI28115 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:41:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAP9f8S28022 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:41:08 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAP9f7v28018 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:41:07 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOZgv-0001hA-00 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:41:05 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Future package: proposed content References: <87y8u5t1df.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:41:05 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:46:22 +0100") Message-ID: <87znekpyz2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "viteno" == Norbert Koch writes: viteno> Do we need a separate package for this or could we stick viteno> these things into xemacs-base which has versions too? We currently don't have a way to depend on package versions, and 21.4 will never get one, except via (require 'back-to-the-future). :-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 06:21:28 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPBL9v17346; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:21:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPBKiF17250 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:20:44 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPBKgd17242 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:20:42 -0500 Received: from mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (mta1-svc.business.ntl.com [62.253.164.41]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPBKgv17238; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:20:42 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.4.254]) by mta1-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031125112040.VXWA399.mta1-svc.business.ntl.com@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:20:40 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hAPBJtd01097; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:19:55 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16323.15067.798909.89507@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:19:55 +0000 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Tim Showalter , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] menus span monitor borders on Xinerama In-Reply-To: <87ptfhsz6c.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87smkhyoa1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3FC252A9.9020802@psaux.com> <87ptfhsz6c.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Tim> The newer Xinerama APIs have ability to query the server and > Tim> find out where the monitor boundaries are. (Newer versions > Tim> of xscreensaver use these to good effect, as does at least > Tim> metacity.) > > XEmacs isn't a Xinerama application; it's an Xt application. It makes > a lot of sense for screen-savers and window managers to be Xinerama- > aware, but an ordinary app? Really, this is a deficiency in pop-up > management and probably should be handled by fixing Xt or the ICCCM > (the standard that defines window manager functionality, to a great > extent). This is unlikely to be a WM issue; menus normally have the override_redirect flag set, so the WM won't get involved. -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 07:14:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPCE1v27894; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:14:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPCDFP27737 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:13:15 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPCD1P27685 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:13:01 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPCD0v27678 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:13:00 -0500 Received: from pd9e608e0.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.230.8.224] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOc3v-000IvS-Jf for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:12:59 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AOc6M-0005E4-V3 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:15:30 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Future package: proposed content References: <87y8u5t1df.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87znekpyz2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:41:05 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > We currently don't have a way to depend on package versions, and > 21.4 will never get one, except via (require 'back-to-the-future). :-) :-) Okay, so that's settled. Jerry, is there anything I can/should do to pave the path? norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 08:00:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPD02v07441; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:00:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPCxlm07327 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:59:47 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPCxT307259 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:59:29 -0500 Received: from moutvdom.kundenserver.de (moutvdom.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPCx9v07177 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:59:09 -0500 Received: from [212.227.126.223] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1AOcma-0003OO-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:59:08 +0100 Received: from [217.80.35.241] (helo=PowerMachine) by mrvdomng.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1AOcmZ-0002Jt-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:59:07 +0100 From: "Michael Reithinger" To: Subject: [Bug: 21.4.13] no windows clipboard after efs operation Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:53:02 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! After an efs transaction (e.g. open a file per ftp). My Windows Clipboard does not work anymore. The workflow is as follows: 1. Normal working in xemacs: cut & paste and data exchange between xemacs and other windows applications is possible. 2. File find a file on a ftp server. 3. Cut and paste between xemacs and other windows applications is not possible anymore. Cut and Paste between buffers works correctly. Hope this description helps Grettings Michael Reithinger ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.20(0.73/3/2) 2003-02-08 12:10 i686 unknown unknown Cygwin ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -I/usr/lib /gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. Using MS-Windows menubars. Using MS-Windows scrollbars. Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. Using MS-Windows native widgets. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for file coding. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 09:24:40 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPEO5v29816; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:24:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPENAj29656 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:23:10 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPEN6729629 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:23:06 -0500 Received: from atl_tpl_imc_01.atlanta.ztel.com (wiseone.z-tel.com [208.205.113.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAPEN6v29625 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:23:06 -0500 Received: from atl_tpl_exc_02.ztel.com ([10.130.2.109]) by atl_tpl_imc_01.atlanta.ztel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2003112509201827388 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:20:18 -0500 Received: by atl_tpl_exc_02.ztel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <40H0HZZ8>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:23:05 -0500 Message-ID: <2C6215F38016D511B85800805FBB337A0547110B@mailbackup.ztel.com> From: "Hart, Charles F." To: "'xemacs-beta@xemacs.org'" Subject: Losing zmacs region when entering commands Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:23:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3B35F.A27A60A0" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B35F.A27A60A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am experiencing a problem in xemacs 21.5.16 where the zmacs region disappears as soon as I begin typing a command in the minibuffer while the zmacs region is active. For example, I highlight a region and attempt to type M-X indent-region, but as soon as I type the 'i' of 'indent-rgion', the zmacs region is deactivated. The odd thing is that immediately after starting up, zmacs regions seem to work, but after working for a while the behavior that I describe manifests itself and form that point on, zmacs regions do not persist during commands. Has anyone seen such behavior. What can I look for to attempt to diagnose the problem? Thanks in advance. -- Fred Hart System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 atlfhartd 1.5.5(0.94/3/2) 2003-09-20 16:31 i686 unknown unknown Cygwin ./configure '--pdump' '--with_postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' '--with-gcc' '--with-toolbars=yes' '--with_dragndrop' '--with-xface' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-png' '--with-xpm' '--site_prefixes=/usr' '--prefix=/c/appl/xemacs' '--cflags=-I/usr/include/w32api' '--ldflags=-L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/bin' '--verbose' XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /c/appl/xemacs-21.5.16 Installation prefix: /c/appl/xemacs Additional prefixes: /usr Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.1/../../../../include/noX -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wpacked -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -Wpointer-arith -I/usr/include/w32api Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. Using MS-Windows menubars. Using MS-Windows scrollbars. Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. Using MS-Windows native widgets. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. TTY: Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. 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(cc-mode ver: 1.42 upstream: 5.30.8) (calendar ver: 1.22 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (calc ver: 1.24 upstream: 2.02fX3) (c-support ver: 1.18 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (build ver: 1.14 upstream: 2.02) (bbdb ver: 1.24 upstream: 2.34) (auctex ver: 1.35 upstream: regular) (apel ver: 1.27 upstream: 10.2) (ada ver: 1.14 upstream: 2.27) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 hyper-apropos gnuserv clearcase-extras clearcase executable advice advice-preload reporter dired-faces dired-xemacs dired comint ring common dmacro crypt crypt++ jde-autoload bugs font-lock-extras local-keys font-lock font disp-table cus-face minibuf-extras zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads modules-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist rsz-minibuf auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse behavior itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived newcomment env text-props frame obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote unicode mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type file-coding dde cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- button1 button1up M-x s u b m i TAB BS BS BS TAB C-g C-g C-h a b u g . * r e p o r t RET down down down down down down down down down down down right right right right RET M-x r e p o r TAB TAB - e BS BS e m a TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Auto save file for draft message exists; consider M-x mail-recover Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Making completion list... Loading hyper-apropos...done Loading hyper-apropos... Quit Quit Making completion list... Loading gnuserv...done Loading gnuserv... Loading executable...done Loading executable... Loading advice...done Loading advice... Creating second frame Loading ztel...done Loading ztel.el Loading ztel... Loading font-lock-extras...done ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B35F.A27A60A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Losing zmacs region when entering commands

    I am experiencing a problem in xemacs 21.5.16 where = the zmacs region disappears as soon as I begin typing a command in the = minibuffer while the zmacs region is active.  For example, I = highlight a region and attempt to type M-X indent-region, but as soon = as I type the 'i' of 'indent-rgion', the zmacs region is deactivated. = The odd thing is that immediately after starting up, zmacs regions seem = to work, but after working for a while the behavior that I describe = manifests itself and form that point on, zmacs regions do not persist = during commands.  Has anyone seen such behavior.  What can I = look for to attempt to diagnose the problem?  Thanks in = advance.

    -- Fred Hart

    System Info to help track down your bug:
    ---------------------------------------

    uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 atlfhartd 1.5.5(0.94/3/2) = 2003-09-20 16:31 i686 unknown unknown Cygwin

    ./configure  '--pdump' '--with_postgresql=3Dno' = '--with-x=3Dno' '--with-gcc' '--with-toolbars=3Dyes' '--with_dragndrop' = '--with-xface' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-png' '--with-xpm' = '--site_prefixes=3D/usr' '--prefix=3D/c/appl/xemacs' = '--cflags=3D-I/usr/include/w32api' '--ldflags=3D-L/usr/local/lib = -L/usr/bin' '--verbose'


    XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac"  configured = for `i686-pc-cygwin'.


    Compilation / Installation:
      Source code = location:          &nb= sp;   /c/appl/xemacs-21.5.16
      Installation = prefix:           = ;    /c/appl/xemacs
      Additional = prefixes:          &nb= sp;    /usr
      Operating system description file: = `s/cygwin32.h'
      Machine description = file:          = `m/intel386.h'
      = Compiler:          &nb= sp;           &nb= sp;   gcc = -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.1/../../../../include/noX -Wall = -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wundef = -Wstrict-prototypes -Wpacked -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations = -Wpointer-arith -I/usr/include/w32api

      Relocating allocator for buffers:  = no
      GNU version of = malloc:           = ;  yes

    Window System:
      Compiling in support for the Microsoft window = system.
      Using MS-Windows menubars.
      Using MS-Windows scrollbars.
      Using MS-Windows dialog boxes.
      Using MS-Windows native widgets.
      Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop = (EXPERIMENTAL).
        -  Drag'n'Drop = prototype:          &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;       msw.

    TTY:

    Images:
      Compiling in support for GIF  images = (builtin).
      Compiling in support for XPM  = images.
      Compiling in support for PNG  = images.
      Compiling in support for JPEG images.
      Compiling in support for TIFF images.
      Compiling in support for X-Face message = headers.

    Sound:
      Compiling in support for sound = (native).

    Databases:
      Compiling in support for GNU DBM.

    Internationalization:

    Mail:
      Compiling in support for POP mail = retrieval.

    Other Features:
      Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at = startup.
      Compiling in support for dynamic shared = object modules.
      Using the new portable dumper.
      Compiling in support for extra debugging = code.
      WARNING: = ---------------------------------------------------------
      WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime = error checking.
      WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more = slowly as a result.
      WARNING: Error checking is on by default for = XEmacs beta releases.
      WARNING: = ---------------------------------------------------------



    Load-Path Lisp Shadows:
    ----------------------
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    /c/cfhart/elisp/dm-compat /c/cfhart/elisp/dm-c = /c/cfhart/elisp/dm-c
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    c:/appl/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edit-utils/tempo=
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    c:/appl/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edit-utils/setnu=
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    c:/appl/xemacs/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/misc
    c:/appl/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-repo= rt
    c:/appl/xemacs/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/build-report)


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    Installed Modules:
    -----------------


    Features:
    --------

    (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 = hyper-apropos gnuserv
    clearcase-extras clearcase executable advice = advice-preload reporter
    dired-faces dired-xemacs dired comint ring common = dmacro crypt crypt++
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    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B35F.A27A60A0-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 10:24:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPFO1v11404; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:24:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPFNRm11278 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:23:27 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPFNPt11270 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:23:25 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPFNOv11265 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:23:24 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOf1y-0002aQ-00; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:23:10 +0900 To: Glynn Clements Cc: Tim Showalter , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.12] menus span monitor borders on Xinerama References: <87smkhyoa1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3FC252A9.9020802@psaux.com> <87ptfhsz6c.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <16323.15067.798909.89507@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:23:10 +0900 In-Reply-To: <16323.15067.798909.89507@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> (Glynn Clements's message of "Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:19:55 +0000") Message-ID: <87r7zwpj4x.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Glynn" == Glynn Clements writes: Glynn> Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> XEmacs isn't a Xinerama application; it's an Xt application. >> It makes a lot of sense for screen-savers and window managers >> to be Xinerama- aware, but an ordinary app? Really, this is a >> deficiency in pop-up management and probably should be handled >> by fixing Xt or the ICCCM (the standard that defines window >> manager functionality, to a great extent). Glynn> This is unlikely to be a WM issue; menus normally have the Glynn> override_redirect flag set, so the WM won't get involved. I was (inaccurately) aware of that, but I had a brief hallucination that the window manager _could_ usefully get involved _if_ the X11 standards were changed to let it do so. But, OK, that's not something that can be "fixed" after all -- XA_WM_TRANSIENT_FOR isn't good enough here because we don't want it decorated and we're going to do some grabs, and override_redirect prevents the WM from seeing the mapping at all; it's not a matter of courtesy. And even if it was, it's hard to see how the WM could do a decent job without negotiating with the app -- which is probably far more complicated than just using the Xinerama API in the first place. Boy, this GUI stuff can get hard. :-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 11:12:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPGC1v23846; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:12:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPGBKb23732 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:11:20 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPGBIj23718 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:11:18 -0500 Received: from kcte.net (kcte.net [199.239.248.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPGBHv23712 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:11:17 -0500 Received: from [147.133.56.78] ([147.133.56.78]) (authenticated bits=0) by kcte.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAPGB7eT046213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:11:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:11:11 -0500 (EST) From: robert delius royar Reply-To: robert delius royar To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: Losing zmacs region when entering commands In-Reply-To: <2C6215F38016D511B85800805FBB337A0547110B@mailbackup.ztel.com> Message-ID: References: <2C6215F38016D511B85800805FBB337A0547110B@mailbackup.ztel.com> Organization: An Apple OS X XEmacs missionary Priority: NEW Precedence: first-class MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SafeFileScanned: kcte.net X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 about 09:23 -0500 UTC Hart, Charles F. wrote: > I am experiencing a problem in xemacs 21.5.16 where the zmacs region > disappears as soon as I begin typing a command in the minibuffer while the > zmacs region is active. For example, I highlight a region and attempt to > type M-X indent-region, but as soon as I type the 'i' of 'indent-rgion', the > zmacs region is deactivated. The odd thing is that immediately after > starting up, zmacs regions seem to work, but after working for a while the > behavior that I describe manifests itself and form that point on, zmacs > regions do not persist during commands. Has anyone seen such behavior. > What can I look for to attempt to diagnose the problem? Thanks in advance. > > -- Fred Hart I have seen this in 21.5.16 on Mac OS X 10.3 but not when I use the set-mark command to set the start of the region--only when I use mouse movement to do the marking. Mine was when I tried to sort a region. When I tied the command to a key and did not go through M-x (or when I used set-mark), the region stayed active. -- Dr. Robert Delius Royar Associate Professor of English Morehead State University Morehead, Kentucky From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 14:50:16 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPJo1v07526; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:50:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPJnae07424 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:49:36 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPJnZD07417 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:49:35 -0500 Received: from buttle.oit.pdx.edu (buttle.oit.pdx.edu [131.252.120.30]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPJnYv07413 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:49:34 -0500 Received: from bittersweet.hegbloom.net (host-242-121.resnet.pdx.edu [131.252.242.121]) by buttle.oit.pdx.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAPJnTOC026415 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localnet ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=karlheg) by bittersweet.hegbloom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOjBh-000530-R6 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:49:29 -0800 Subject: Re: Losing zmacs region when entering commands From: "Karl M. Hegbloom" To: "'xemacs-beta@xemacs.org'" In-Reply-To: <2C6215F38016D511B85800805FBB337A0547110B@mailbackup.ztel.com> References: <2C6215F38016D511B85800805FBB337A0547110B@mailbackup.ztel.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069789769.1835.11.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:49:29 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 06:23, Hart, Charles F. wrote: > For example, I highlight a region and attempt to type M-X > indent-region, but as soon as I type the 'i' of 'indent-rgion', the > zmacs region is deactivated. I've seen a similar thing happen under Gnome desktop with the gnome clipboard manager set to manage X selection clipboard. It grabs that selection, and XEmacs unhighlights it. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 18:24:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPNO1v21953; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:24:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPNNrS21922 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:23:53 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAPNNoC21909 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:23:50 -0500 Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAPNNlv21861; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:23:47 -0500 Received: from sfwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AOmX3-0004oP-00; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:23:45 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (Zqd1PQZcZe7hVBHOA3cfnZeRD5W7G3Dmw6RTj6H9cfI8e9czMkgZE+@[217.89.14.242]) by afwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AOmWr-2FLwfY0; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:23:33 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Would like to import new package: ERC X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:24:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:41:12 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: Zqd1PQZcZe7hVBHOA3cfnZeRD5W7G3Dmw6RTj6H9cfI8e9czMkgZE+ X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Norbert" == Norbert Koch writes: Norbert> Adrian Aichner writes: Norbert> Hello Adrian, >> I have an XEmacs ERC IRC package working quite well under 21.4.14 >> non-mule and 21.5.16 mule. Norbert> Good news! >> I would like to import that into xemacs-packages/erc. Norbert> Absolutely no objections from my side. You're familiar Norbert> with the package structure and hold enough might at your Norbert> fingertips that you can set up most (all) of the things Norbert> by yourself (lucky me :-)). If you need any help, just Norbert> flap my ears. Be careful with your ears! Norbert> [...] >> Please advise, Norbert> Don't dream it, be it :) You got me beat with that phrase, a famous quote I should know about? Norbert> norbert. erc has been imported to XEmacs cvs as follows: cd C:\DOCUME~1\AICHNE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\erc\ cvs -d :ext:xemacs@cvs.xemacs.org:/pack/xemacscvs import -m "Importing pre-4.0 sources into XEmacs repository" XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/erc SF_NET_PROJECTS_ERC ERC_4_0_1_584 Compilation started at Wed Nov 26 00:12:36 2003 +0100 (W. 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charset=us-ascii X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - washington.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32041 32041] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - washington.hostforweb.net X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Maintainers, Could you please clarify whether it is a bug or specification? If it is not a bug, it is necessary to add notes, isn't it? >>>>> In Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: > Hi, > Although it may be a known problem, I think it is evil that the > call-process-region function requires the point to have to be in > the beginning or the end position when the 4th arg DELETEP is t. > It simply erases the buffer's contents when that requirement is > not satisfied. For instance: > (with-temp-buffer > (insert "Hello World") > (goto-char 2) > (call-process-region (point-min) (point-max) "cat" t t) > (buffer-string)) > => "" > Such an accident does not happen in Emacs or XEmacs 21.4. >>>>> In Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: --- code-process.el~ 2002-11-10 22:07:29 +0000 +++ code-process.el 2003-11-21 10:14:54 +0000 @@ -171,15 +171,13 @@ ;; in the same buffer, make sure we track the insertion, and don't get ;; any of it in the deleted region if insertion happens at either end ;; of the region. - (let ((s (and deletep (copy-marker start t))) - (e (and deletep (copy-marker end)))) - (let ((retval - (apply #'call-process program (list (current-buffer) start end) - buffer displayp args))) - ;; If start and end were the same originally, s will be beyond e now - (if (and deletep (> e s)) - (delete-region s e)) - retval))) + (if deletep + (goto-char end)) + (prog1 + (apply #'call-process program (list (current-buffer) start end) + buffer displayp args) + (if deletep + (delete-region start end)))) (defun start-process (name buffer program &rest program-args) "Start a program in a subprocess. Return the process object for it. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 21:50:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQ2o1v01402; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:50:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQ2nQd01278 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:49:26 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQ2nNO01256 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:49:23 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQ2nMv01244 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:49:22 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOpju-0004wJ-00; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:49:14 +0900 To: Katsumi Yamaoka Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-w3m@namazu.org, ben@666.com Subject: Re: [21.5] call-process-region problem References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:49:14 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:03:50 +0900") Message-ID: <87wu9nondh.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Ben? >>>>> "KY" == Katsumi Yamaoka writes: Maintainers, Could you please clarify whether it is a bug or specification? If it is not a bug, it is necessary to add notes, isn't it? >>>>> In Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: > Hi, > Although it may be a known problem, I think it is evil that the > call-process-region function requires the point to have to be in > the beginning or the end position when the 4th arg DELETEP is t. > It simply erases the buffer's contents when that requirement is > not satisfied. For instance: > (with-temp-buffer > (insert "Hello World") > (goto-char 2) > (call-process-region (point-min) (point-max) "cat" t t) > (buffer-string)) > => "" > Such an accident does not happen in Emacs or XEmacs 21.4. >>>>> In Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: --- code-process.el~ 2002-11-10 22:07:29 +0000 +++ code-process.el 2003-11-21 10:14:54 +0000 @@ -171,15 +171,13 @@ ;; in the same buffer, make sure we track the insertion, and don't get ;; any of it in the deleted region if insertion happens at either end ;; of the region. - (let ((s (and deletep (copy-marker start t))) - (e (and deletep (copy-marker end)))) - (let ((retval - (apply #'call-process program (list (current-buffer) start end) - buffer displayp args))) - ;; If start and end were the same originally, s will be beyond e now - (if (and deletep (> e s)) - (delete-region s e)) - retval))) + (if deletep + (goto-char end)) + (prog1 + (apply #'call-process program (list (current-buffer) start end) + buffer displayp args) + (if deletep + (delete-region start end)))) (defun start-process (name buffer program &rest program-args) "Start a program in a subprocess. Return the process object for it. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 25 21:53:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQ2r1v01969; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:53:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQ2quk01952 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:52:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQ2qts01941 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:52:55 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQ2qsv01926 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:52:54 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOpnR-0004x0-00 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:52:53 +0900 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [S] [PATCH] erc: take 2 to make erc-generate-log-file-name-long and erc-log-file-coding-system xemacs-compatible References: <3ccc3wt6.fsf@smtpmail.t-online.de> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:52:53 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3ccc3wt6.fsf@smtpmail.t-online.de> (Adrian Aichner's message of "Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:31:01 +0100") Message-ID: <87ptffon7e.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: +(defcustom erc-log-file-coding-system (if (featurep 'xemacs) + 'binary + 'emacs-mule) This will cause data loss if you have non-ISO8859-1 characters in the buffer. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 00:19:14 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQ5I6v31833; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:18:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQ5HkA31783 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:17:46 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQ5HWR31752 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:17:32 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQ5HWv31747 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:17:32 -0500 Received: from p508313c3.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.19.195] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOs3P-0008n8-NL for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:17:31 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AOs5r-0007xv-PH for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:20:03 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Would like to import new package: ERC References: From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Adrian Aichner's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:24:03 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: > Norbert> Don't dream it, be it :) > > You got me beat with that phrase, a famous quote I should know about? The Rocky Horror Picture Show, towards the end, the "floor show". > erc has been imported to XEmacs cvs as follows: Cool, I try to get it pre-released today. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 10:46:24 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQFk2v22567; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:46:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQFj4f21776 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:45:04 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQFj1d21709 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:45:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQFj1v21700 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:45:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQFi8q21523 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:44:08 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQFi5421501 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:44:05 -0500 Received: from tm1.ca.alcatel.com (kanfw1.ottawa.alcatel.ca [192.75.23.69]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQFi5v21496 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:44:05 -0500 Received: from alcatel.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tm1.ca.alcatel.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQFi3LG023604 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:44:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FC4CA43.C4D4DA61@alcatel.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:44:03 -0500 From: Fred Odendaal Organization: Alcatel Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Xemacs 21.4.14 crashes on Linux and workarounds in Problems file don't fix it Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4D5161A840C497A8206DB174" Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4D5161A840C497A8206DB174 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------31525FC777CB7BA8B2920DA4" --------------31525FC777CB7BA8B2920DA4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I recently compiled Xemacs for Linux, but I get the following error when trying to run it: Warning: No type converter registered for 'String' to 'nsfers' conversion. Warning: No type converter registered for 'String' to 'nsfers' conversion. Fatal error (6). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. Your version of XEmacs was distributed with a PROBLEMS file that may describe your crash, and with luck a workaround. Please check it first, but do report the crash anyway. Please report this bug by invoking M-x report-emacs-bug, or by selecting `Send Bug Report' from the Help menu. If necessary, send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the XEmacs configuration from M-x describe-installation, or equivalently the file Installation in the top of the build tree. *Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are unlikely to be able to analyze the problem. Locate the core file produced as a result of this crash (often called `core' or `core.', and located in the directory in which you started XEmacs or your home directory), and type gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core then type `where' at the debugger prompt. No GDB on your system? You may have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. (Ask your system administrator if you need help.) If no core file was produced, enable them (often with `ulimit -c unlimited' in case of future recurrance of the crash. Lisp backtrace follows: # bind (frame-being-created) make-frame(nil #) frame-initialize() # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) command-line() # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code " Â" ... 1)))) # bind (error-data) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Aborted (core dumped) I tried the workarounds in the PROBLMES file for *** XEmacs crashes on startup, in make-frame, but I still get the error. regards, Fred Odendaal -- Name: Fred Odendaal ASIC Verification Manager Phone: (613) 784-6114 Alcatel Networks Corporation. Fax: (613) 599-3693 600 March Rd, email: fred.odendaal@alcatel.com Kanata, Ont. K2K 2E6 --------------31525FC777CB7BA8B2920DA4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

    I recently compiled Xemacs for Linux, but I get the  following error when trying to run it:

    Warning: No type converter registered for 'String' to 'nsfers' conversion.
    Warning: No type converter registered for 'String' to 'nsfers' conversion.

    Fatal error (6).

    Your files have been auto-saved.
    Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them.

    Your version of XEmacs was distributed with a PROBLEMS file that  may describe
    your crash, and with luck a workaround.  Please check it first, but do report
    the crash anyway.  Please report this bug by invoking M-x report-emacs-bug,
    or by selecting `Send Bug Report' from the Help menu.  If necessary, send
    ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'.  *MAKE SURE* to include the XEmacs
    configuration from M-x describe-installation, or equivalently the file
    Installation in the top of the build tree.

    *Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are unlikely
    to be able to analyze the problem.  Locate the core file produced as a result
    of this crash (often called `core' or `core.<process-id>', and located in
    the directory in which you started XEmacs or your home directory), and type

      gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core

    then type `where' at the debugger prompt.  No GDB on your system?  You may
    have DBX, or XDB, or SDB.  (Ask your system administrator if you need help.)
    If no core file was produced, enable them (often with `ulimit -c unlimited'
    in case of future recurrance of the crash.

    Lisp backtrace follows:

      # bind (frame-being-created)
      make-frame(nil #<x-device on "coelacanth:0.0" 0x322>)
      frame-initialize()
      # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left)
      command-line()
      # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code "      Â" ... 1))))
      # bind (error-data)
      normal-top-level()
      # (condition-case ... . error)
      # (catch top-level ...)
    Aborted (core dumped)

    I tried the workarounds in the PROBLMES file for  *** XEmacs crashes on startup, in make-frame, but I still get the error.

    regards,
    Fred Odendaal

    -- 
    Name:   Fred Odendaal                  ASIC Verification Manager 
    Phone:  (613) 784-6114                 Alcatel Networks Corporation.
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      --------------31525FC777CB7BA8B2920DA4-- --------------4D5161A840C497A8206DB174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="stack_trace" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="stack_trace" (gdb) where #0 0x42029331 in kill () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #1 0x080ad0eb in fatal_error_signal (sig=6) at emacs.c:642 #2 #3 0x42029331 in kill () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #4 0x4202911a in raise () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #5 0x4202a8c2 in abort () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #6 0x081ccbb2 in default_font_of_font_list () at xlwmenu.c:2982 #7 0x081ce8aa in make_drawing_gcs (mw=0x8422fb8) at xlwmenu.c:2621 #8 0x081ccc56 in XlwMenuInitialize (request=0xbfffd570, new=0x8422fb8, args=0xbfffd988, num_args=0xbfffd490) at xlwmenu.c:3040 #9 0x40310947 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #10 0x40310e51 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #11 0x40311329 in _XtCreateWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #12 0x403113ad in XtCreateWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #13 0x081d234a in xlw_create_menubar (instance=0x8422d98) at lwlib-Xlw.c:132 #14 0x081c9f5d in allocate_widget_instance (info=0x8412850, parent=0x0, pop_up_p=0 '\0') at lwlib.c:941 #15 0x081c9209 in lw_make_widget (id=65537, parent=0x8401be0, pop_up_p=0 '\0') at lwlib.c:977 #16 0x080cd20e in set_frame_menubar (f=0x8401be0, deep_p=1, first_time_p=1) at menubar-x.c:607 #17 0x080cd971 in x_initialize_frame_menubar (f=0x0) at menubar-x.c:633 #18 0x081aad50 in x_create_widgets (f=0x83fd7a8, lisp_window_id=0, parent=1081067760) at frame-x.c:1997 #19 0x081a8f6c in x_init_frame_1 (f=0x83fd7a8, props=138419168) at frame-x.c:2184 #20 0x0811305b in Fmake_frame (props=1081067760, device=137726320) at frame.c:399 #21 0x080b2e5d in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0x2) at eval.c:3536 #22 0x0808ba00 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x83fd690 "Æ \210Ç ?­&È\fÉ \"¬\027Ê\r\v\"\022Ë\rÈ\tÌ \"@\"\211\020\026\020Í\r!\025Î\016\021!\210Ï\211\024\207", stack_depth=5, constants_data=0x4076489c) at bytecode.c:748 #23 0x0808b5e8 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1081929504, nargs=5, args=0xbfffde94) at bytecode.c:516 #24 0x080b2dc0 in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffde90) at eval.c:3572 #25 0x0808ba00 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8357a00 "\vA\035ÆÇ\032\031È\r!\025\bÉa«\004Ê \210ËÌ!«\004Í \210\f«\017\016\035¬\vÎÏÐ\f!ÑQ! \210Ò \210*Ó \210Ô \210rÕÖ!q\210× \210ØÙ!\210\016!Úa«\005\016\" \210)Û Üa«\bÝ ¬\004Þ \210ß \210Ù\026#Ý ­\004àÇ!)\207-UA\001", stack_depth=-1073750384, constants_data=0x40764c18) at bytecode.c:748 #26 0x0808b5e8 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1081929756, nargs=4, args=0xbfffdf60) at bytecode.c:516 #27 0x080b2550 in Feval (form=1081211868) at eval.c:3392 #28 0x080b0c03 in condition_case_1 (handlers=0, bfun=0x80b1e90 , barg=1081211868, hfun=0x80b7be0 , harg=1081046232) at eval.c:1652 #29 0x080b0d86 in condition_case_3 (bodyform=0, var=1081046232, handlers=1081207404) at eval.c:1730 #30 0x0808c62f in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=0xbfffe200, program_ptr=0x83086c1 "\210Ì\r!\025\016.«\016ÚÓá\016.â ã $!\0267äå!\210\016&«\005äæ!\210Ü\026&ç \210\016(«\005äè!\210Ü\026(\t«\bé\t@\tA\"\210)\0168­\003ê \207", opcode=143) at bytecode.c:1273 #31 0x0808b866 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8308630 "\b«\005ÆÇ!\207È\020É \211\034«\025\fG\rGW«\016Ê\r!Ê\f!k«\005Ë\f!\025)Ì\r!\025Í \210Î \210\v®\aÏÐ!­\002È\eÑ\016/\0160\"\022\v«\tÒÓÔ\n\"Õ\"\210\n¬\004Ö \210×\n\0161\016+\0162\v%\210Ø \210)\016,¬\022\016-«\016ÙÚÛ\0163!\016-\"ÜÈ#\210\016,¬\024\016+¬\006Ý\0164!\210Ý\0165!\210Ý\0166!\210Ü\031Þßà\217\210Ì\r!\025\016.«\016ÚÓá\016.â ã $!\0267äå!\210\016&«\005äæ!\210Ü\026&ç \210\016(«\005äè!\210Ü\026(\t«\bé"..., stack_depth=1081211868, constants_data=0x40765398) at bytecode.c:658 #32 0x0808b5e8 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1081930652, nargs=7, args=0xbfffe2d0) at bytecode.c:516 #33 0x080b2550 in Feval (form=1081143324) at eval.c:3392 #34 0x080b0c03 in condition_case_1 (handlers=0, bfun=0x80b1e90 , barg=1081143324, hfun=0x80952e0 , harg=1081067760) at eval.c:1652 #35 0x0809546b in top_level_1 (dummy=1081067760) at cmdloop.c:206 #36 0x080b0abc in internal_catch (tag=0, func=0x8095430 , arg=1081067760, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1318 #37 0x08094bc5 in initial_command_loop (load_me=0) at cmdloop.c:285 #38 0x080adf0b in xemacs_21_4_14_i686_pc_linux (argc=1, argv=0xbfffe744, envp=0xbfffe74c, restart=0) at emacs.c:2460 #39 0x080ae9be in main () at emacs.c:2892 #40 0x42017589 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (gdb) quit --------------4D5161A840C497A8206DB174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="Installation" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Installation" uname -a: Linux sim1 2.4.20-18.7 #1 Thu May 29 08:32:50 EDT 2003 i686 unknown ./configure '--ldflags=-z nocombreloc' XEmacs 21.4.14 "Reasonable Discussion" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /asic_proj/vervault/temp/xemacs-21.4.14 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -fno-strict-aliasing -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for Motif. *WARNING* Many versions of Motif are buggy, requiring workarounds. You are likely to experience slow redisplay. You may need to install vendor patches to Motif. See PROBLEMS for more information. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. --------------4D5161A840C497A8206DB174-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 12:25:14 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQHP5v18133; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:25:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQHOIS17891 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:24:18 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQHO1917815 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:24:01 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAQHNwv17801 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:23:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 30017 invoked by uid 65534); 26 Nov 2003 17:23:51 -0000 Received: from a206-029.dialin.tuwien.ac.at (EHLO linux.local) (128.131.206.29) by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 18:23:51 +0100 X-Authenticated: #9981821 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.5-b16] font and fontsize don't change From: Edwin Steiner Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:21:34 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! What happened: I just installed XEmacs 21.5.16. After startup I noticed that the font and fontsize were different than in my stable XEmacs 21.4.12. (stable displays "Fixed" 16, beta displays "Courier" 12) I tried to change Options->Font to "Fixed" but only the font of the tab changed, the buffer text stayed the same. Then I tried to change Options->Font Size to 16. No change. Both menus still have the old settings checked. With xemcas -vanilla it's exactly the same. I noticed something strange right now: If flyspell highlights a word, the word is displayed in "Fixed" (the font I tried to set) while the rest of the text is still in "Courier". With my 21.4.12 xemacs on the same machine and with the same login and package-path everything is fine. best regards -Edwin ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.20-4GB #1 Mon Mar 17 17:54:44 UTC 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux ./configure '--package-path=/usr/share/xemacs/site-packages:/usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages:/usr/share/xemacs/mule-packages' '--with-pop' '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.5-b16 "celeriac" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/edwin/nobackup/xemacs-21.5.16 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wpacked -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -g -O3 Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using Motif to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/semi/smime /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/gnus/smime /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/semi/pgg-pgp5 /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pgg/pgg-pgp5 /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/semi/pgg-def /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pgg/pgg-def /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/semi/pgg /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pgg/pgg /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/semi/pgg-pgp /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pgg/pgg-pgp /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/semi/pgg-gpg /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pgg/pgg-gpg /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/semi/pgg-parse /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pgg/pgg-parse /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/semi/signature /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tm/signature /usr/share/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/semi/mime-setup /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tm/mime-setup /usr/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/ethio-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/mule/ethio-util /usr/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/china-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/mule/china-util /usr/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/japan-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/mule/japan-util /usr/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/korea-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/mule/korea-util /usr/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/cyril-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/mule/cyril-util /usr/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-base/viet-util /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/mule/viet-util /usr/share/xemacs/mule-packages/lisp/mule-ucs/unicode /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/unicode /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b16/lisp/build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((skk:version 1.23 :type regular) (mule-ucs :version 1.05 :author-version "0.84" :type regular) (mule-base :version 1.44 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (lookup :version 1.13 :type regular) (leim :version 1.2 :type regular) (latin-unity :version 1.09 :author-version "1.09" :type regular) (egg-its :version 1.26 :type regular) (edict :version 1.13 :type regular) (zenirc :version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.04 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1 .6 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.82 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.07 :type regular) (viper :version 1.35 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.16 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.35 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.11 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.35 :type regular) (time :version 1.14 :author-version "1.17" :type regular) (textools :version 1.15 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (text-modes :version 1 .71 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.25 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (supercite :version 1.2 :author-version "3.55x3" :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.27 :author-version "0.14beta4" :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) (sml-mode :version 0.07000000000000001 :type regular) (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) (sieve :version 1.11 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.18 :author-version "2.0e" :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.18 :author-version "1.4.2" :type regular) (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular) (sasl :version 1.12 :type regular) (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.28 :type regular) (python-modes :version 1 .03 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular) (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .91 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) (pgg :version 1.02 :type regular) (perl-modes :version 1 .05 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.65 :author-version "R-2_9_9" :type regular) (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.34 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type single-file) (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1 .33 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.17 :type regular) (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.13 :author-version "3.5.8" :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.63 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (liece :version 1.1 :type regular) (jde :version 1.46 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.26 :author-version "3.3" :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.29 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.12 :author-version "2.95" :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.28 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.09 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.18 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.73 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (general-docs :version 1.0 :type regular) (games :version 1.13 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1 .13 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.16 :author-version "0.18x" :type regular) (eudc :version 1.37 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.15 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (ess :version 1.03 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.06 :author-version "2.4.1" :type regular) (emerge :version 1.11 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (elib :version 1.11 :author-version "1.0" :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.05 :author-version "0.17" :type regular) (efs :version 1.32 :author-version "1.22" :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2 .1 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.49 :author-version "2.75" :type regular) (edebug :version 1.2 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.12 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.13 :author-version "1.96" :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.15 :author-version "7.11" :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.11 :type regular) (debug :version 1.17 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.04 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.41 :author-version "5.30.7" :type regular) (calendar :version 1.22 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular) (calc :version 1.24 :author-version "2.02fX3" :type regular) (c-support :version 1 .18 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) (build :version 1.14 :author-version "2.02" :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.24 :author-version "2.34" :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (apel :version 1.27 :author-version "10.2" :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (bbdb-com mail-extr gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 calist mm-view gnus-sum nnoo gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail mail-source format-spec gnus-start gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range gnus-win gnus gnus-ems gnus-xmas wid-edit xemacsbug shadow alist x-font-menu font-menu efs-cu smtpmail edmacro paren blink-paren bm iswitchb bjam compile ffap recent-files saveplace savehist flyspell ispell planner sort timeclock emacs-wiki executable font disp-table pcomplete bbdb timezone message messagexmas mml mml-sec mml-smime smime mel path-util poe-xemacs timer overlay poe pym static apel-ver product mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap lpr mail-parse rfc2045 rfc2231 rfc2047 qp ietf-drums mail-abbrevs sendmail rfc822 nnheader nnheaderxm gnus-util netrc time-date parse-time mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils mailheader canlock font-latex font-lock cus-face filladapt un-define mule-uni skk-autoloads mule-ucs-autoloads mule-base-autoloads lookup-autoloads leim-autoloads latin-unity-autoloads egg-its-autoloads edict-autoloads zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads general-docs-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads semi-autoloads modules-autoloads mule-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist rsz-minibuf auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 tibetan lao devanagari indian slovenian czech romanian ccl code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse behavior itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived newcomment env text-props frame obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote unicode 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 14:23:18 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQJM7v23074; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:22:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQJLKN22914 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:21:20 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQJLFS22875 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:21:15 -0500 Received: from hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu (hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu [128.125.188.69]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQJLFv22871 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:21:15 -0500 Received: from hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQJJnQY010693 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:19:49 -0800 Received: (from plagnol@localhost) by hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hAQJJnVa010689; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:19:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:19:49 -0800 Message-Id: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> From: Vincent Plagnol To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I just updated from redhat 9.0 to fedora core1, and want to use xemacs 21.4.14. However, when I want to maximize my xemacs window the system hangs and I have to use xkill to get rid of it. There is not much information in here but I've found at least one other person with this problem on google so I guess it is reasonnably common. Thanks for your work, Vincent ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux bugs.devel.redhat.com 2.4.21-2.ELsmp #1 SMP Wed Sep 17 15:00:55 EDT 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux ./configure 'i386-redhat-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--libdir=/usr/lib' '--mandir=/usr/share/man/man1' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--with-gpm=no' '--with-sound=native' '--with-pop' '--mail-locking=lockf' '--with-clash-detection' '--debug=yes' '--with-mule=yes' '--with-database=berkdb' '--with-ldap=yes' '--with-hesiod=no' '--with-canna=yes' '--with-wnn=yes' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-athena=3d' '--with-widgets=athena' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-scrollbars=lucid' '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with-msw=no' '--with-xfs=yes' '--pdump' XEmacs 21.4.14 "Reasonable Discussion" configured for `i386-redhat-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/build/320173-i386/BUILD/xemacs-21.4.14 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -g -pipe -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw3d - Athena library to link: Xaw3d Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for the WNN input method on Mule. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "lockf" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/timezone /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/timezone /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.14/lisp/build-report /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/alist /usr/share/xemacs-21.4.14/lisp/alist) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.81 :type regular) (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) (vm :version 7.17 :type regular) (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.13 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.14 :type regular) (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) (time :version 1.13 :type regular) (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.66 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.24 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.09 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.11 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.11 :type regular) (sml-mode :version 0.09 :type regular) (slider :version 1.14 :type regular) (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.09 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular) (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular) (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.32 :type regular) (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular) (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .89 :type single-file) (pgg :version 1.03 :type regular) (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular) (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) (misc-games :version 1.17 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.15 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.25 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.62 :type regular) (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.11 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.1 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.14 :type regular) (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.1 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (efs :version 1.31 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.19 :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.12 :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.14 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.13 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.4 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.17 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (mule-ucs :version 1.04 :type regular) (mule-base :version 1.43 :type regular) (lookup :version 1.13 :type regular) (locale :version 1.2 :type regular) (leim :version 1.21 :type regular) (latin-unity :version 1.07 :type regular) (egg-its :version 1.26 :type regular) (edict :version 1.15 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 cc-mode cc-fonts cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs regexp-opt efs-cu paren blink-paren font-lock cus-face mwheel un-define mule-uni zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads mule-ucs-autoloads mule-base-autoloads lookup-autoloads locale-autoloads leim-autoloads latin-unity-autoloads egg-its-autoloads edict-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 canna-leim slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp postgresqlv7 postgresql CANNA file-coding wnn mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- C-m C-x C-m C-g S-x M-x r e p o r t TAB TAB e m TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Making completion list... S-x not defined. Quit Quit Loading cc-mode...done Loading cc-mode... Loading efs-cu...done Loading efs-cu... Paren mode is paren Loading paren...done Loading paren... Loading font-lock...done Loading cus-face...done Loading cus-face... Loading font-lock... Loading mwheel...done Loading mwheel... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 15:49:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQKn5v16542; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:49:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQKmJH16340 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:48:19 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQKmIR16332 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:48:18 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQKmIv16325 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:48:18 -0500 Received: from p50831326.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.19.38] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AP6a9-0004rx-8m for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:48:17 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AP6cb-000EpT-Uw for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:50:49 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2003-11-26-21) From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== erc-0.02-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: Version 4.0 Revision: 1.584 Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: ================================================== cc-mode-1.42-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.30.8 ecb-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.11 hyperbole-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.18 mh-e-1.28-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.4.2 net-utils-1.34-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none text-modes-1.72-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none Detailed Changes: ================ - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/erc/ChangeLog ------- 2003-11-26 Norbert Koch * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 0.02 released. * Makefile (AUTHOR_VERSION): Remove leftover from a CVS Revision tag. 2003-11-25 Adrian Aichner * erc-log.el (erc-log-file-coding-system): Use 'binary coding-system under XEmacs (instead of 'emacs-mule). * erc-log.el (erc-w32-invalid-file-characters): Removed as no longer needed. * erc-log.el (erc-generate-log-file-name-long): Use `convert-standard-filename', which exists in XEmacs too. 2003-11-23 Adrian Aichner * erc-button.el (erc-widget-press-button): New. Fixes [ 843318 ] as suggested in http://gnufans.net/~deego/emacspub/site-lisp/ignotus-erc-init.el 2003-11-23 Adrian Aichner * Create package. Installing These: ================ Manually: - -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): - ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): - ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. norbert - XEmacs Package Release Manager. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/xRIhgu3ywdHdhM0RAilfAKDH7XO1uY9c7pIYsZzfbclQAkAS7QCfUhwJ tiUVN1uYUBzrIGPYfjvfWQI= =GOAw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 16:54:17 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQLsAv02980; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:54:10 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQLrVM02786 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:53:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQLrO502752 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:53:24 -0500 Received: from topper.inf.ed.ac.uk (topper.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.32.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQLrIv02726; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:53:18 -0500 Received: from toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk (IDENT:root@toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.32.139]) by topper.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQLrBr07303; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:53:12 GMT Received: (from jcb@localhost) by toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hAQLrBl13284; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:53:11 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <16325.8391.545813.344413@toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:53:11 +0000 From: Julian Bradfield To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: 21.5.16: crash visiting gzipped big5 file In-Reply-To: <200311262146.hAQLkHf13151@toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk> References: <16321.13719.488173.68465@toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk> <200311262146.hAQLkHf13151@toolo.inf.ed.ac.uk> <878ym4uc5b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.4 (patch 13) "Rational FORTRAN" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hAQLrIv02726 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >and send us the results. On my system, At end... > Julian> cedict.b5 is the well-known Chinese dictionary in big5. >http://ftp.cc.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/cedictb5.zip? I don't recall where I got it from; I think it was that version, rather than the more recent updates from another site. If necessary, I'll send you the file. GNU gdb 5.2.1-2mdk (Mandrake Linux) Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i586-mandrake-linux-gnu"... (gdb) run -q Starting program: /usr/local/bin/xemacs-21.5-b16 -q Program received signal SIGPIPE, Broken pipe. 0x40360174 in write () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x40360174 in write () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #1 0x0878df28 in ?? () #2 0x082103be in filedesc_writer (stream=0xb, data=0x878e688 "ÊàêXþ_Wc/¯]<·h4\032\nw\0345¶{ótÉn¼í2Seµy\eʬ@5S\"äOSZÎMËz\001U\001/Sh½v~áY\035\022o³Û?Àt1x<4\002àÏðR\tc\030\vqx4±ª?i&óÚüÆ\037­ï\001¤k^v)8\n8ø²\016@\a17\n^.\021=-\035\aR'óâüéï¹\a\nW\025ÄÑÐÒ:Æ_²Æܧ\002, barg=1078372608, hfun=0x80fdc50 , harg=1077980112) at eval.c:1917 #20 0x080f3bc0 in condition_case_3 (bodyform=1078372608, var=1077980112, handlers=1078372524) at eval.c:1999 #21 0x080a5f08 in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=0xbfffd424, program_ptr=0xbfffd4e2 ")\207\t«\nÕ\r\016\027\016\030\t$\210Ö\r!\210Ò\211\024\211\025\207ÿ¿\eó\r@\034", opcode=143) at bytecode.c:1128 #22 0x080a4f72 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0xbfffd4b0 "Æ\r\v«\036\f«\e\n«\030ÇÈÉÊË\fÌÍÎ\nÏBBBBEÐ\fD¯\006ª\006\v?­\002Ñ\"\210\v¬\tÒ\211\030ÓÔ\217)\207\t«\nÕ\r\016\027\016\030\t$\210Ö\r!\210Ò\211\024\211\025\207ÿ¿\eó\r@\034", stack_depth=3, constants_data=0x404ae9d0) at bytecode.c:507 #23 0x080a6538 in Fbyte_code (instructions=1079035320, constants=1078651344, stack_depth=14) at lisp.h:2610 #24 0x080f62d6 in Feval (form=1078372860) at eval.c:3602 #25 0x080f378f in internal_catch (tag=135680544, func=0x80f5510 , arg=1078372860, threw=0x0, thrown_tag=0x0) at eval.c:1527 #26 0x080a5ed7 in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=0xbfffd844, program_ptr=0x878ddd8 ".\v\207", opcode=141) at bytecode.c:1109 #27 0x080a4f72 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x878dce8 "Æ\211\211\211\211\211\211\211\036 \036!\036#\036$\036\"\032\031\030Ç\216\f;«'È\f!\024É\026\"ÊË!\021r\tq\210Æ\036%Ì\fÆ\211\211\211Í&\006\210)e\026!d\026 )ª)\f:«\034Î\f@!\021\fA@®\004Ï\t!\026!Ð\f8®\004Ñ\t!\026 ª\n\f«\aÒÓÔ\f#\210\r:«\006\rA@ª\002É\e\r:«\004\r@\025\r­\026\rÉa«\004pª\016\r¨«\aÉ\026#ƪ\004Õ\r!\025\v«\034\vÉa¬\027Ö\v!«\a\v\022Æ\023ª\fÈ\v!\023É\026$ÊË!\022Æ\036&×ØË\vÉa«\004\rª\004\r\nD\016'\016(%"..., stack_depth=2, constants_data=0x404aeaf8) at bytecode.c:507 #28 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1079267172, nargs=6, args=0xbfffd9c4) at opaque.h:36 #29 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=7, args=0xbfffd9c0) at eval.c:3881 #30 0x080f6faf in Fapply (nargs=6, args=0xbfffdad8) at eval.c:4141 #31 0x080f6bd5 in Ffuncall (nargs=7, args=0xfffffffe) at eval.c:3865 #32 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x878d7d8 "Æ\211\e\032Æ\035ÇÈ\215\210É\r!«\a\rÊ\016\025\"\025\r:«\t\r@\022\rA\023ª\r\r«\nË\r!«\005\r\022\r\023)\016\026®+\n®(\t:«\005\t@ª\002\t\034Ì\f!¬\005\f;­\fÍ\f!­\aÎÏÍ\f!\")®\a\016\027@®\002Ð\016\030®\027\v®\024\b:«\nÎÑÍ\b@!\"®\a\016\027A®\002Ò\036\030\036\026ÓÔ\016\025\b\t\016\031\016\032&\006,\207fs-g!", stack_depth=24, constants_data=0x404bde20) at bytecode.c:603 #33 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1079267216, nargs=6, args=0xbfffdc44) at opaque.h:36 #34 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=7, args=0xbfffdc40) at eval.c:3881 #35 0x080f6faf in Fapply (nargs=6, args=0xbfffdd58) at eval.c:4141 #36 0x080f6bd5 in Ffuncall (nargs=7, args=0xfffffffe) at eval.c:3865 #37 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x878d790 "\r­\005Æ\nÇ\"\r­\004Æ\t!\034\eÈÉ\016\np\n\tE\016\v\016\f\016\r&\006\030\r«\n\f\vV«\005\v\f|\210\b+\207", stack_depth=24, constants_data=0x404a9b8c) at bytecode.c:603 #38 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1079217804, nargs=8, args=0xbfffdec8) at opaque.h:36 #39 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=9, args=0xbfffdec4) at eval.c:3881 #40 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x878d6b0 "t«\a\v¬\004Æ \210`\036\034Ç\216È\211\035\034\016\e«\rÉ\vÊ\"\024É\vË\"\025ª\vÉ\vÌ\"\024É\vÍ\"\025\f;«3\r<«\020\r«\034\fÎ\r@Q\024\rA\211\025ªó\rÏ\230¬\v\rÐa¬\006\fÎ\rQ\024Ñ\t\016\032\016\035Ð\211ÈÒ\f&\b\210ª\024Ó\r«\t\f\t\016\032\rFª\006\f\t\016\032E!\210*\016\e?­IÉ\vÔ\"É\vÕ\"È\036\036\032\030\tb\210Ö\b!?­2\nÈa«\006×Ø!ª(\n;«\027Ö\n!­\037Ù\224Ù\225|\210Ö\b!?­\023×Ø!ª\016Ó\n!\210Ö\b!?­\004×Ø!+*\207", stack_depth=32, constants_data=0x8787380) at bytecode.c:603 #41 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139970948, nargs=3, args=0xbfffe048) at opaque.h:36 #42 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=4, args=0xbfffe044) at eval.c:3881 #43 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x84783e8 "\t¬\003p\021\212\tq\210Âed\b#)\207", stack_depth=12, constants_data=0x8787410) at bytecode.c:603 #44 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139970992, nargs=1, args=0xbfffe1b8) at opaque.h:36 #45 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffe1b4) at eval.c:3881 #46 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x878da70 "\r\211Æ Ç\211\211\211\036+\034\e\036,\030\036)\035`\036-È\216É «{\016.¬\nÊËÌÍ \"!«n\r«\021ÎÏ\r\"«\vÐ\rÑ\211\224O!\210ª6\r«\017ÎÒ\r\"«\tÐ\rÑ\211\224O!\210\r«\021ÎÓ\r\"«\vÐ\rÑ\211\224OÔP!\210\r«\017ÎÕ\r\"«\tÐ\rÑ\211\224O!\210Ö×Í \"\210ØÙ!\210\n\024ÎÚ\nÛ\"\r\"«\a\rÑÜ\224O\025Ý ¬\aÖÞÍ \"\210ß «/ÖàÍ \"\210á\tÙ\"\210\t\023Ú\016*â\"«\021ÎÚ\016*Û\"\r\"«\a\rÑÜ\224O\025Ý ¬\aÖãÍ \"\210*"..., stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x8786fe8) at bytecode.c:603 #47 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139970596, nargs=0, args=0xbfffe45c) at opaque.h:36 #48 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffe458) at eval.c:3881 #49 0x080f750a in run_hook_with_args_in_buffer (buf=0x86321ac, nargs=1, args=0xbfffe458, cond=RUN_HOOKS_TO_COMPLETION) at eval.c:4357 #50 0x080fbaf4 in Frun_hooks (nargs=135680544, args=0xbfffe458) at eval.c:4370 #51 0x080f6bd5 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xfffffffe) at eval.c:3865 #52 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x878ccb0 "Æ\r!?\024\016%\204\205", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x404abe3c) at bytecode.c:603 #53 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1079223436, nargs=2, args=0xbfffe5c8) at opaque.h:36 #54 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffe5c4) at eval.c:3881 #55 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8775a88 "ÆÇ\034\031r\vq\210ÈÉ!\210ÈÊ!\210Ë \210ÇÌÍ\217\210\n¬\003\b\022\016\024\026\025\016\026«\005Î\r!\025Ï\r!\026\027\016\030\r!¬\bÐÑ!\210Æ\026\021\016\031«\rÒ\026\nÐÉ!\210Æ\026\tª\nÓ\f\016\032?\"\210p\023p+\207", stack_depth=8, constants_data=0x404abc48) at bytecode.c:603 #56 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1079223040, nargs=6, args=0xbfffe728) at opaque.h:36 #57 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=7, args=0xbfffe724) at eval.c:3881 #58 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0xbfffe790 "Æ\r!\210Ç\r\f\v\n\t\b&\006\207G\b\001", stack_depth=24, constants_data=0x404abb18) at bytecode.c:603 #59 0x080a6538 in Fbyte_code (instructions=1079018984, constants=1078639384, stack_depth=7) at lisp.h:2610 #60 0x080f62d6 in Feval (form=1078353216) at eval.c:3602 #61 0x080f38dc in condition_case_1 (handlers=1078353168, bfun=0x80f5510 , barg=1078353216, hfun=0x80fdc50 , harg=1077953040) at eval.c:1917 #62 0x080f3bc0 in condition_case_3 (bodyform=1078353216, var=1077953040, handlers=1078353168) at eval.c:1999 #63 0x080a5f08 in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=0xbfffeae4, program_ptr=0x8775a6e "+\207\001\001", opcode=143) at bytecode.c:1128 #64 0x080a4f72 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x87758b0 "ÆÇ\r!!\025È\r!«\\\016E«S\016F\032É\211\036<\036?Ê\036@É\036=\n:«2\n@\026<Ë\016\f«$\016H¬\005\016A«\034\016I¬\030\b¬\025\212\fq\210\016D\r\230¬\nÙÚ\r\016D\016J$\210"..., stack_depth=3, constants_data=0x404c03a4) at bytecode.c:507 #65 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1079272716, nargs=4, args=0xbfffec68) at opaque.h:36 #66 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=5, args=0xbfffec64) at eval.c:3881 #67 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x877a490 "\v«\034Å\v!\030Æ\nÇ\211\t$\211\034<«\bÈÉ\f\237\"ª\004É\f!*\207Æ\nÇ\211\t$\211\034<«\bÈÉ\f\237\"ª\004É\f!)\207", stack_depth=16, constants_data=0x404c04e4) at bytecode.c:603 #68 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1079272760, nargs=3, args=0xbfffedd4) at opaque.h:36 #69 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=4, args=0xbfffedd0) at eval.c:3881 #70 0x080f6faf in Fapply (nargs=2, args=0xbfffee38) at eval.c:4141 #71 0x080f78a1 in apply1 (fn=1079272760, arg=142141064) at eval.c:4461 #72 0x080abf55 in Fcall_interactively (function=1077968136, record_flag=1077980112, keys=1077980112) at callint.c:460 #73 0x080f6b33 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0x3) at eval.c:3843 #74 0x080a51b1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x877bd68 "\f­\fÆ\f!Ça?­\004È\f!\035É\r«\aÊË\r\"ª\002Ì\r\"\eÍÊÎ\v\"!\032Ï\n!\031\v\211\030\036\023ÐÑ!\210Ò\t!.\006\207", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x404a62b0) at bytecode.c:603 #75 0x080fdfb1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=1079207728, nargs=0, args=0xbffff2d4) at opaque.h:36 #76 0x080f6a6f in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbffff2d0) at eval.c:3881 #77 0x080f78be in apply1 (fn=1079207728, arg=142141064) at eval.c:4456 #78 0x080abf55 in Fcall_interactively (function=1077834288, record_flag=1077980112, keys=1077980112) at callint.c:460 #79 0x080f5062 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=1077834288, record_flag=1077980112, keys=1077980112) at eval.c:3106 #80 0x08114972 in execute_command_event (command_builder=0x8632c98, event=141107180) at event-stream.c:4209 #81 0x0810edd7 in Fdispatch_event (event=141107180) at event-stream.c:4561 #82 0x080bd0ab in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:573 #83 0x080f38dc in condition_case_1 (handlers=1077977976, bfun=0x80bd620 , barg=1077980112, hfun=0x80bd670 , harg=1077980112) at eval.c:1917 #84 0x080bd854 in command_loop_2 (dummy=1077980112) at cmdloop.c:252 #85 0x080f378f in internal_catch (tag=1077980112, func=0x80bd810 , arg=1077980112, threw=0x0, thrown_tag=0x0) at eval.c:1527 #86 0x080bd385 in initial_command_loop (load_me=1077980112) at cmdloop.c:301 #87 0x080f04dc in xemacs_21_5_b16_i686_pc_linux (argc=2, argv=0xbffff9e4, envp=0xbffff9f0, restart=0) at emacs.c:2375 #88 0x080f0fe5 in main () at emacs.c:2867 #89 0x402b7082 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (gdb) quit The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 17:06:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQM61v07107; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:06:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQM5Xn06981 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:05:33 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQM5WK06972 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:05:32 -0500 Received: from buttle.oit.pdx.edu (buttle.oit.pdx.edu [131.252.120.30]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQM5Wv06967 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:05:32 -0500 Received: from bittersweet.hegbloom.net (host-242-121.resnet.pdx.edu [131.252.242.121]) by buttle.oit.pdx.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQM5QOC013183; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localnet ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=karlheg) by bittersweet.hegbloom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AP7mo-0002NN-PV; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:05:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging From: "Karl M. Hegbloom" To: XEmacs Beta Cc: Vincent Plagnol In-Reply-To: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069884326.12697.17.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:05:26 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 11:19, Vincent Plagnol wrote: > I just updated from redhat 9.0 to fedora core1, and want to use > xemacs 21.4.14. However, when I want to maximize my xemacs window the system > hangs and I have to use xkill to get rid of it. > > There is not much information in here but I've found at least one > other person with this problem on google so I guess it is reasonnably > common. When it does this, is it flickering slightly in the upper right corner? I've seen something like this when I maximize-full under sawfish, and the WM tries to make it one size, but XEmacs overrides that with a slightly smaller size, since it wants to be sized on an even character cell boundary. The WM then resizes it, and it resizes itself again, and they sit there and fight over it until you either xkill or restore xemacs to original size. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 17:25:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQMP0v12155; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:25:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQMOmQ12085 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:24:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAQMOkw12075 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:24:46 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAQMOjv12063; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:24:45 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AP85L-0004Ly-00; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:24:35 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (XHnafBZ1weHWqGENUe+v4lEFBCCIs2JOqakeQuKp-nKf0nY086HbYO@[80.128.49.250]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AP85J-1eNy1g0; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:24:33 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [S] [PATCH] erc: take 2 to make erc-generate-log-file-name-long and erc-log-file-coding-system xemacs-compatible X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <87ptffon7e.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:25:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ptffon7e.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:52:53 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: XHnafBZ1weHWqGENUe+v4lEFBCCIs2JOqakeQuKp-nKf0nY086HbYO X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: Stephen> +(defcustom erc-log-file-coding-system (if (featurep 'xemacs) Stephen> + 'binary Stephen> + 'emacs-mule) Stephen> This will cause data loss if you have non-ISO8859-1 Stephen> characters in the buffer. Ouch, sorry. 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    --0-448701584-1069894969=:30252-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 22:10:18 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR3ABv16722; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:10:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR39EB16365 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:14 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR39Ca16354 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:12 -0500 Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu (stephens.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR39Cv16350 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:12 -0500 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu (diannao.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.126.112]) by stephens.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/ITTC-ANTISPAM-ANTIVIRUS-3.0) with ESMTP id hAR395jb012645 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:09:05 -0600 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/KU-4.0-client) id hAR395Zm003800; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:09:05 -0600 Received: (from james@localhost) by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAR3950o003798; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:09:05 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: diannao.ittc.ku.edu: james set sender to james@eecs.ku.edu using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Package problem: miscompiled macros From: Jerry James X-Face: +5(Pfr,;N>q#6NT,Qi5^TQh-MaUnz#kGN~OW[CQj~RS+sIor( '_8K^f9u^Y#.N`>9oKN$\JpI Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:09:04 -0600 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-VirusScan: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , It looks like nobody has run gen-macro-list.awk since I first submitted it nearly a year ago. :-( It needs to be run to bring macro.list up to date. Do one of you package guys want to grab that, or would you rather I submitted a patch? After running it and invoking find-macro-err.awk, I find that the following macros are being miscompiled (i.e., that something is being byte-compiled without knowing about the macro, and hence is compiled as a function call): gnus-xmas-open-network-stream Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/net-utils/dns.el mh-in-show-buffer Definition: xemacs-packages/mh-e/mh-utils.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/mailcrypt/mc-toplev.el rmail-select-summary Definition: xemacs-packages/rmail/rmail.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-util.el gnus-group-entry Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el gnus-active Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el gnus-info-method Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el gnus-info-marks Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el gnus-info-level Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el gnus-info-score Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el list-to-alist Definition: xemacs-packages/liece/lisp/liece-inlines.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/liece/lisp/liece-minibuf.el gnus-summary-article-number Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-sum.el Miscompile: xemacs-packages/hyperbole/hgnus.el With one exception, the rest are defsubsts that we are not taking advantage of by having the definition available at byte-compile time. This isn't fatal, but represents a loss of efficiency. The one exception is combine-after-change-calls, which is called in mmm-mode/mmm-cmds.el. We don't have it. An example of working around that is in prog-modes/diff-mode.el. This is something that should go into the fsf-compat package. I would like to see the running of the two awk scripts become part of the package release/testing cycle somehow, so we can avoid releasing packages that have miscompiled macros in them. Also, per Kyle's recent remarks, it appears that the currently released vm package has not been made properly, since vm-autoload.el has out of date contents. You package guys don't have a Real Life (tm), right? :-) -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 22:11:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR3B1v16929; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:11:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR3AY216823 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:10:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR3AXk16815 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:10:33 -0500 Received: from juniper.hegbloom.net (host-118-252.dhcp.pdx.edu [131.252.118.252]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR3AXv16808 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:10:33 -0500 Received: from karlheg by juniper.hegbloom.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1APCY2-0002XC-9A for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:10:30 -0800 Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging From: Karl Hegbloom To: XEmacs Beta In-Reply-To: <1069884326.12697.17.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> <1069884326.12697.17.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1069902629.9596.1.camel@juniper.hegbloom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:10:30 -0800 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 14:05, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > When it does this, is it flickering slightly in the upper right [...] Vincent wrote back to me, and says "Yes". So, it's a WM / XEmacs interaction thing. Any way XEmacs could just accept the size the WM gives it, and adjust a border width dynamically? From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 22:38:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR3c1v24258; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:38:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR3beZ24154 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:37:40 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR3bdZ24147 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:37:39 -0500 Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu (stephens.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR3bcv24140 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:37:38 -0500 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu (diannao.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.126.112]) by stephens.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/ITTC-ANTISPAM-ANTIVIRUS-3.0) with ESMTP id hAR3bZjb013532 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:37:35 -0600 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/KU-4.0-client) id hAR3bZZm004168; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:37:35 -0600 Received: (from james@localhost) by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAR3bZs3004166; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:37:35 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: diannao.ittc.ku.edu: james set sender to james@eecs.ku.edu using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Future package: proposed content References: <87y8u5t1df.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87znekpyz2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Jerry James X-Face: +5(Pfr,;N>q#6NT,Qi5^TQh-MaUnz#kGN~OW[CQj~RS+sIor( '_8K^f9u^Y#.N`>9oKN$\JpI Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:37:35 -0600 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:15:30 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-VirusScan: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Norbert Koch wrote: >:-) Okay, so that's settled. Jerry, is there anything I can/should do > to pave the path? We have to decide what kind of content the back-to-the-future package will contain, and how it is structured. Stephen suggested that it contain forms that cause "you aren't recent enough" errors if older XEmacsen try to use newer functionality. That's great, but I think we should provide that newer functionality when possible. That's the upshot of the request that started this thread. I propose that the future package contain one future-x.el file for each x.el file containing a future function. For two of the functions I am interested in, that would mean a future-subr.el file. We should also have a core.el or future-core.el file for changes in core. That would take care of the third function I'm concerned with. What do you think? -- Jerry James http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 22:48:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR3m1v26989; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:48:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR3lAS26766 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:47:10 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR3l8Q26755 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:47:08 -0500 Received: from gizmo01bw.bigpond.com (gizmo01bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.11]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAR3l6v26747 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:47:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 31603 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2003 03:48:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO eicq.dnsalias.org) (144.135.24.100) by gizmo01bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2003 03:48:51 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by bwmam11bpa.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_3_2d 180/3994928); 27 Nov 2003 13:46:59 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAR3krF5002146; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:46:54 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Package problem: miscompiled macros Keywords: gnus,xemacs-packages,lisp,miscompile,definition,gnus-xmas References: From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:46:49 +1000 In-Reply-To: (Jerry James's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:09:04 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "JJ" == Jerry James writes: JJ> gnus-xmas-open-network-stream JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/net-utils/dns.el JJ> mh-in-show-buffer JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/mh-e/mh-utils.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/mailcrypt/mc-toplev.el JJ> rmail-select-summary JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/rmail/rmail.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-util.el JJ> gnus-group-entry JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el JJ> gnus-active JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el JJ> gnus-info-method JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el JJ> gnus-info-marks JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el JJ> gnus-info-level JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el JJ> gnus-info-score JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-xmas.el [...] JJ> gnus-summary-article-number JJ> Definition: xemacs-packages/gnus/lisp/gnus-sum.el JJ> Miscompile: xemacs-packages/hyperbole/hgnus.el I'd be happy to review any patches that fix(?) these ones. JJ> Also, per Kyle's recent remarks, it appears that the currently JJ> released vm package has not been made properly, since JJ> vm-autoload.el has out of date contents. I'm having other problems with building VM. I'm looking into it right now and will post a patch when I have it fixed. I'll make sure that vm-autoloads.el gets regenerated with _every_ build. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/Fc60ACgkQHSfbS6lLMAN6LgCfdV+BcYQ+mMHB5x3uzFdPHB6G f1AAnA7UyUw0fcQJ//1wlEM4dwshi3mR =04Em -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 23:18:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR4I1v11422; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:18:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR4Hsp11356 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:17:54 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR4Hoi11327 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:17:50 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR4Hmv11293; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:17:49 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APDb9-0000tm-00; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:17:47 +0900 To: Adrian Aichner Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [S] [PATCH] erc: take 2 to make erc-generate-log-file-name-long and erc-log-file-coding-system xemacs-compatible References: <3ccc3wt6.fsf@smtpmail.t-online.de> <87ptffon7e.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:17:46 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:25:04 +0100") Message-ID: <87ptfejvh1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: Stephen> +(defcustom erc-log-file-coding-system (if (featurep 'xemacs) Stephen> + 'binary Stephen> + 'emacs-mule) Stephen> This will cause data loss if you have non-ISO8859-1 Stephen> characters in the buffer. APA> Any better suggestion, assuming we make 'file-coding a APA> require-ment? I really need to know what the application is, and what kind of coding systems users are actually going to use. At the very least, you are going to need to do (defcustom erc-log-file-coding-system (cond ((not (featurep 'xemacs)) 'emacs-mule) ((featurep 'mule) 'iso-2022-7) ((featurep 'file-coding) 'binary) (t (error "This Emacs doesn't support coding-systems)))) Don't take that `(error ...)' too seriously, you really need to check for the case that coding systems are unsupported where `erc-log-file-coding-system' is used, not at the point of definition. Also, while 'iso-2022-7 is fairly safe (after all, it's just a modal version of emacs-mule), there may be better alternatives. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 23:32:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR4W0v16833; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:32:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR4Vhv16737 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:31:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR4VWS16662 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:31:32 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR4VVv16657 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:31:31 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APDoJ-0000uD-00; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:31:23 +0900 To: Fred Odendaal Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs 21.4.14 crashes on Linux and workarounds in Problems file don't fix it Organization: The XEmacs Project References: <3FC4CA43.C4D4DA61@alcatel.com> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:31:23 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3FC4CA43.C4D4DA61@alcatel.com> (Fred Odendaal's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:44:03 -0500") Message-ID: <87llq2juuc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Fred" == Fred Odendaal writes: *WARNING* Many versions of Motif are buggy, requiring workarounds. You are likely to experience slow redisplay. You may need to install vendor patches to Motif. See PROBLEMS for more information. We are not kidding. PROBLEMS doesn't come close to having an exhaustive list. Please try ./configure --with-dialogs=athena. You need to have an Athena-compatible library installed, and if it's not the one distributed with X, you'll need to specify --with-athena=TYPE where TYPE can be xaw, 3d, or a few other rarer possibilities (see ./configure --usage). The Hannibal Lector GNU ld is now auto-detected, and except for a few rare and ancient Red Hat and SuSE systems the --ldflags option will do nothing for you except _increase_ startup time. If you want to turn off the portable dumper feature, do so with --pdump=no. If you really want the Motif dialogs, we need to know what version of Motif you're using. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 26 23:38:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR4c1v19057; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:38:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR4bj118960 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:37:45 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR4biQ18945 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:37:44 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR4bhv18937 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:37:43 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APDuJ-0000uY-00; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:37:35 +0900 To: Vincent Plagnol Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:37:35 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> (Vincent Plagnol's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:19:49 -0800") Message-ID: <87he0qjuk0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Vincent" == Vincent Plagnol writes: Vincent> I just updated from redhat 9.0 to fedora core1, and want Vincent> to use xemacs 21.4.14. However, when I want to maximize Vincent> my xemacs window the system hangs and I have to use xkill Vincent> to get rid of it. Try Karl Hegbloom's suggestion (conflict with the window manager) first. Second, fedora has the "Freddy vs. Jason exec" feature, which randomizes where your executable gets loaded or something like that. While so far it is believed that this should _not_ cause problems for an XEmacs enabled with the portable dumper, you never know. You might try turning off the special feature in the loader that does this. Contact the OS vendor for more information. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 00:30:14 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR5U1v12167; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:30:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR5T2V29634 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:29:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR5T1I29608 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:29:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR5T1v29596 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:29:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR5T0O29346 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:29:00 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR5Sc925929 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:28:38 -0500 Received: from mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (mta2-svc.business.ntl.com [62.253.164.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR5Sbv25824 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:28:37 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.68.9]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031127052836.JFPO28456.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:28:36 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hAR5RfL02687; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:27:41 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16325.35661.688944.617853@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:27:41 +0000 To: Fred Odendaal Cc: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs 21.4.14 crashes on Linux and workarounds in Problems file don't fix it In-Reply-To: <3FC4CA43.C4D4DA61@alcatel.com> References: <3FC4CA43.C4D4DA61@alcatel.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Fred Odendaal wrote: > I recently compiled Xemacs for Linux, but I get the following error > when trying to run it: > > Warning: No type converter registered for 'String' to 'nsfers' > conversion. > Warning: No type converter registered for 'String' to 'nsfers' > conversion. Your Motif headers (specifically Xm/XmStrDefs.h) don't match your Motif library. Do you have multiple Motif implementations (e.g. both OpenMotif and Lesstif)? If so, uninstall one of them then re-build XEmacs from scratch. -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 00:50:09 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR5o1v08091; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:50:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR5nW007958 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:49:32 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR5nHw07898 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:49:17 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR5nHv07891 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:49:17 -0500 Received: from p50831a39.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.26.57] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1APF1c-000JHC-T8 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:49:13 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1APF45-00045h-RG for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:51:45 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Future package: proposed content References: <87y8u5t1df.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87znekpyz2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Jerry James's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:37:35 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jerry James writes: > I propose that the future package contain one future-x.el file for each > x.el file containing a future function. For two of the functions I am > interested in, that would mean a future-subr.el file. We should also > have a core.el or future-core.el file for changes in core. That would > take care of the third function I'm concerned with. > > What do you think? >From my point of view this sounds like a good approach. If nobody else objects to the idea, send me the file(s) you already have for this package and I try to get them packed up and distributed. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 01:01:18 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR611v11608; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:01:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR60Hw11005 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:00:17 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR60Ft10955 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:00:15 -0500 Received: from mail.LF.net (mail.LF.net [212.9.160.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR60Ev10933 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:00:14 -0500 Received: from p50831a39.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.131.26.57] helo=redqueen.bytechase.cx) by mail.LF.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1APFCH-000K4P-7K for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:00:13 +0100 Received: from nk by redqueen.bytechase.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 1APFEk-00046H-14 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:02:46 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Package problem: miscompiled macros References: From: Norbert Koch X-Face: 9,{UOz`879Gt1t?~vOo"iN!BBRwO (Jerry James's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:09:04 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jerry James writes: Hi Jerry, > It looks like nobody has run gen-macro-list.awk since I first submitted > it nearly a year ago. :-( It needs to be run to bring macro.list up to > date. Do one of you package guys want to grab that, or would you rather > I submitted a patch? Of course I prefer patches :-) I haven't even known about your scripts. You've brought it up in a time when I was (even more) only an XEmacs user (and I've never wondered about them, my bad). > The one exception is combine-after-change-calls, which is called in > mmm-mode/mmm-cmds.el. We don't have it. An example of working around > that is in prog-modes/diff-mode.el. This is something that should go > into the fsf-compat package. Can you cons up something for this? > I would like to see the running of the two awk scripts become part of > the package release/testing cycle somehow, so we can avoid releasing > packages that have miscompiled macros in them. Now that I know about them ... I can set up a cronjob to extract the output on a regular basis. Then it's package maintainer nagging time :-) > Also, per Kyle's recent remarks, it appears that the currently > released vm package has not been made properly, since vm-autoload.el > has out of date contents. It's the bane of the whole field. The day I release a package it's already outdated and/or may have to be fixed. > You package guys don't have a Real Life (tm), right? :-) :-) It's begun to kick in lately. norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 03:16:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR8G2v13826; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:16:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR8Fg113751 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:15:42 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR8Fa413723 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:15:36 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR8FZv13719 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:15:35 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APHJ8-0001YA-00; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:15:26 +0900 To: Karl Hegbloom Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> <1069884326.12697.17.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> <1069902629.9596.1.camel@juniper.hegbloom.net> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:15:26 +0900 In-Reply-To: <1069902629.9596.1.camel@juniper.hegbloom.net> (Karl Hegbloom's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:10:30 -0800") Message-ID: <87oeuygrc1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Karl" == Karl Hegbloom writes: Karl> Any way XEmacs could just accept the size the WM gives it, Karl> and adjust a border width dynamically? Looks pretty unlikely for 21.4. While I'm not an X expert, I can't even see an obvious place to do the change; my guess is that it will involve a bunch of changes to our geometry management. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 03:29:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR8T0v16167; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:29:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR8S0115990 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:28:00 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR8RvU15964 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:27:57 -0500 Received: from tuttle.oit.pdx.edu (tuttle.oit.pdx.edu [131.252.120.29]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR8Ruv15960; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:27:56 -0500 Received: from bittersweet.hegbloom.net (host-242-121.resnet.pdx.edu [131.252.242.121]) by tuttle.oit.pdx.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAR8RsHq014791; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:27:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localnet ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=karlheg) by bittersweet.hegbloom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1APHVC-0004Uh-Jd; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:27:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging From: "Karl M. Hegbloom" To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: XEmacs Beta In-Reply-To: <87oeuygrc1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> <1069884326.12697.17.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> <1069902629.9596.1.camel@juniper.hegbloom.net> <87oeuygrc1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069921674.12685.22.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:27:54 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 00:15, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >>>>> "Karl" == Karl Hegbloom writes: > > Karl> Any way XEmacs could just accept the size the WM gives it, > Karl> and adjust a border width dynamically? > > Looks pretty unlikely for 21.4. While I'm not an X expert, I can't > even see an obvious place to do the change; my guess is that it will > involve a bunch of changes to our geometry management. Hmm. Perhaps the place for that kind of thing is really in the WM anyhow, since the similar could happen with other applications as well? I wonder why it has never happened to me with anything else? Probably just because the only other char cell sized app I ever run is the terminal... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 04:47:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR9l1v03283; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 04:47:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR9k6w03038 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 04:46:06 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAR9jol02976 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 04:45:50 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAR9jmv02970 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 04:45:49 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APIiY-0001lA-00 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:45:46 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: Re: buffer-file-coding-system woes References: <87smkc6jqe.fsf@dimail.umc.com.ua> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:45:45 +0900 Message-ID: <877k1mf8l2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1pgx1SKn0TPFsvafgR1GIEamm6g= In-Reply-To: <87smkc6jqe.fsf@dimail.umc.com.ua> (Dmitry Astapov's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:45:13 +0200") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Posted-To: comp.emacs.xemacs X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs as well. >>>>> "Dmitry" == Dmitry Astapov writes: Dmitry> Exactly like in info. It turned out that it works only Dmitry> half-way. While C-x C-f foobar.zzz encoding utf-8 is used Dmitry> to read file from disk, but buffer-file-coding-system Dmitry> stays "koi8-r", and problem persists. I wonder if this has to do with Mule-UCS, or maybe with the koi8-r coding system. I've not experienced this problem with Japanese. Dmitry> Is it bug? Is it feature? How can I go about Dmitry> patching/circumventing it? It's a design bug and the way to fix it is not obvious, what you're doing probably works most all of the time; I'll take a more careful look. Dmitry> I tried to modify code above to pass coding to Dmitry> insert-file-contents-post-hook hooks and put there hook: Dmitry> (defun my-set-buffer-file-coding-system (fname visit Dmitry> coding &optional foo) (setq buffer-file-coding-system Dmitry> coding)) Dmitry> So far it "Works For Me". Is it the right way to do it? In this area, if it works for you, that's the best you're going to get. I'd be careful about backing up my files. Sorry. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 05:41:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARAf5v16456; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:41:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARAeqW16406 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:40:52 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARAeBD16256 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:40:11 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARAeAv16251 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:40:10 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APJZ5-0001t7-00; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:40:03 +0900 To: "Karl M. Hegbloom" Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> <1069884326.12697.17.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> <1069902629.9596.1.camel@juniper.hegbloom.net> <87oeuygrc1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1069921674.12685.22.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:40:02 +0900 In-Reply-To: <1069921674.12685.22.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> (Karl M. Hegbloom's message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:27:54 -0800") Message-ID: <87wu9mdri5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom writes: Karl> Hmm. Perhaps the place for that kind of thing is really in Karl> the WM anyhow, since the similar could happen with other Karl> applications as well? I suspect that XEmacs may be wrong here. The ICCCM is quite clear that if the client and the WM disagree, the WM rules. Karl> I wonder why it has never happened to me with anything else? Karl> Probably just because the only other char cell sized app I Karl> ever run is the terminal... What happens when you maximize that? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 05:55:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARAt1v20274; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:55:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARAsAS20097 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:54:10 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARAs3920049 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:54:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARAs1v20043; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:54:01 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APJma-0001tg-00; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:54:00 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-design@xemacs.org Reply-To: xemacs-design@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Future package: proposed content References: <87y8u5t1df.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87znekpyz2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:53:59 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:51:45 +0100") Message-ID: <87smkadquw.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Moving to xemacs-design. Reply-To set. >>>>> "viteno" == Norbert Koch writes: viteno> From my point of view this sounds like a good approach. viteno> If nobody else objects to the idea, send me the file(s) viteno> you already have for this package and I try to get them viteno> packed up and distributed. Please don't. It's really important that we get this either right the first time, or wrong in a way that doesn't screw the users no matter what we do to fix it. We really should think about what problems we're trying to solve, what APIs we want to provide, etc. Is it really enough to have a future-x file? What do we do for 21.4 when 22.0 has x-foo-new and 22.2 has a changed version of x-foo-new and a new function x-bar-new? Do you realize that you (I mean "Norbert") may have to build separate versions of these things for different old versions of XEmacs (21.4 v. 22.0)? This has been tried before (the APEL package). It's no accident that "APEL" is a 4-letter word! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 07:47:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARCl1v20971; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:47:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARCkPh20723 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:46:25 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARCjnQ20540 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:45:49 -0500 Received: from mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (mta6-svc.business.ntl.com [62.253.164.46]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARCjiv20474 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:45:44 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.68.160]) by mta6-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20031127124543.WMRX21828.mta6-svc.business.ntl.com@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:45:43 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hARCj1T01259; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:45:01 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16325.61901.386257.629360@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:45:01 +0000 To: "Karl M. Hegbloom" Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging In-Reply-To: <1069921674.12685.22.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> <1069884326.12697.17.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> <1069902629.9596.1.camel@juniper.hegbloom.net> <87oeuygrc1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1069921674.12685.22.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > > Karl> Any way XEmacs could just accept the size the WM gives it, > > Karl> and adjust a border width dynamically? > > > > Looks pretty unlikely for 21.4. While I'm not an X expert, I can't > > even see an obvious place to do the change; my guess is that it will > > involve a bunch of changes to our geometry management. > > Hmm. Perhaps the place for that kind of thing is really in the WM > anyhow, since the similar could happen with other applications as well? > I wonder why it has never happened to me with anything else? Probably > just because the only other char cell sized app I ever run is the > terminal... Or because XEmacs appears to be jumping through more hoops than other cell-sized apps. Read the comments at the top of src/EmacsShell-sub.c. They probably won't improve your understanding about what's actually going on, but they may at least reduce the desire to understand it (it did for me). If you are actually interested, it appears that defining DEBUG_GEOMETRY_MANAGEMENT would produce a fair amount of relevant information. OTOH, the fact that the programmer saw a need to add that feature may also be considered relevant information. -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 10:49:11 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARFn1v12554; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:49:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARFm2f12330 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:48:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARFm1l12321 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:48:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARFm1v12316 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:48:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARFlJM12160 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:47:19 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARFlHw12138 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:47:17 -0500 Received: from fep04-svc.swip.net (fep04.swip.net [130.244.199.132]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARFlGv12132 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:47:17 -0500 Received: from tele2.fr ([213.103.13.4]) by fep04-svc.swip.net with ESMTP id <20031127154715.BMVU1249.fep04-svc.swip.net@tele2.fr> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:47:15 +0100 Message-ID: <3FC6289C.2060400@tele2.fr> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:38:52 +0100 From: Quintard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr-FR; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031107 Debian/1.5-3 X-Accept-Language: fr-fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: plantage xemacs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Apres mise a jour voila la fenetre que j'obtient a l'ouverture de xemacs. Que dois je faire poour le retouver?? Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*, -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-120-*-iso10646-1, -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-120-*-jisx0208.1983-0, -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-120-*-jisx0201.1976-0" to type FontSet Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. Your version of XEmacs was distributed with a PROBLEMS file that may describe your crash, and with luck a workaround. Please check it first, but do report the crash anyway. Please report this bug by invoking M-x report-emacs-bug, or by selecting `Send Bug Report' from the Help menu. If necessary, send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the XEmacs configuration from M-x describe-installation, or equivalently the file Installation in the top of the build tree. *Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are unlikely to be able to analyze the problem. Locate the core file produced as a result of this crash (often called `core' or `core.', and located in the directory in which you started XEmacs or your home directory), and type gdb /usr/bin/xemacs core then type `where' at the debugger prompt. No GDB on your system? You may have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. (Ask your system administrator if you need help.) If no core file was produced, enable them (often with `ulimit -c unlimited' in case of future recurrance of the crash. Lisp backtrace follows: # bind (frame-being-created) make-frame(nil #) frame-initialize() # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) command-line() # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code " §" ... 1)))) # bind (error-data) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Erreur de segmentation From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 12:42:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARHg2v18734; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:42:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARHf0M18340 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:41:00 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARHesl18296 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:40:54 -0500 Received: from zuken.co.uk ([195.217.207.3]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARHedv18201 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:40:54 -0500 Received: from redpo (redpo [89.33.32.3]) by zuken.co.uk (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20425 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:39:31 GMT Received: from gorbag.aztec by redpo (SMI-8.6/Zuken-Bristol-Interior-Gateway-V1.1) id RAA10329; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:41:29 GMT Received: (from stevee@localhost) by gorbag.aztec (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id RAA25310; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:38:34 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: gorbag.aztec: stevee set sender to stevee@zuken.co.uk using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.13] Performance problem with func-menu and Python From: Steve Evans X-Face: $"d&^B_IKlTHX!y2d,3;grhwjOBqOli]LV`6d]58%5'x/kBd7.MO&n3bJ@Zkf&RfBu|^qL+?/Re{MpTqanXS2'~Qp'J2p^M7uM:zp[1Xq#{|C!*'&NvCC[9!|=>#qHqIhroq_S"MH8nSH+d^9*BF:iHiAs(t(~b#1.{w.d[=Z Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEXg4aj+/89ijIT9/tBP Niz+/9Cf45uLAAACQUlEQVR4nFWTzbKkIAyF06B7KYu9RfcD4M1kb3l5AGkm7/8qc4L2z2ShRT4S yEmgYEaqPylRSqUUr9RdHUyix8I8k0vJt9sH8FiVWCMzEx8fEKdbaDNI04nn74gpBg2Tb6ohfAAW VauGOXutQfU7IgpI1Czwa6sfoKJmDcfge7yBx8pc+lzwOz5AGiWPVPqn2J5cLzCNjYe71ihD2b1o e0VMynXYLNWjlF+RXqEBLzy53QoHKPc3mL0GouJb5GJ2ikUh5qYVYCdpHZBkpKcYsuhEw6MsF/CU p1umiEwGSvIn2PkgRgGZxhcIcwcSsm9MDZkM7CnWZrfaoDNxBlCtExEtsddR7qYzJWIPRXErh6N0 sLORof4kE0kVBS4ZUQ6VQ0Y0AMBk5ZVoxlWyM60AngBrhHyVPLpSo5LvrQFYRKW7YPa1iQjNGeDe o24RXrQ2GkiSWRQxJ4AdC862W2V/AFwIft+kz+t9Za/XIT3TqC0ZWDiO515WQdSBOe4AqqLNcpgc VsUxWoCBxCitPfbUpYWg6QUW7HuWjSxmDEd6A0v2t5x2i/kL3GV9nv59lf8BC6GJtIwMmT4ACmP+ m8eDEnuMb/DA4EZECVcW9wWct7rraOUfRO4FvOTV5JBqc28P9JTEV2V7MUgU2BrVNFs/mEOEpDQC uLShO+gKOzL1BKJmy40pufnVHmimGdifiv9gtMsvWdpWqUlLm3QwDFvZ90tV6uJbSDUwbNspnlKX pufSgZxbTinGelbDr4irunSv/wBzrtFHGeeR/gAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:38:32 +0000 Message-ID: Lines: 440 Organization: Zuken Limited User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, usg-unix-v) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I have been experiencing a performance problem when editing some but not all Python files. After investigation the problem seems to be with func-menu. The files I have problems with have simple non-class functions in the file that are defined differently based upon a condition like this: if debugging: def foo(): print "foo" else: def foo(): pass Now func-menu assumes that all function definitions which don't start at the beginning of the line are part of a class definition. Therefore it searches backwards to find the name of the class the function belongs to. This search fails, but the code assumes it succeeded and proceeds to extract the class name from the failed search. The results of this extraction is the whole file, so the resulting function name includes the complete contents of the file. When the point is moved to one of these functions this name is displayed in the status bar which results in XEmacs consuming 100% CPU for several minutes. I added a check for success of the reverse search, which has solved the problem for me. Enclosed is a simple example of the problem. Because of its small size it doesn't really show the performance problem, but it does show the incorrect function name. Also I enclose a patch for version 2.66 of func-menu.el --=-=-= Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=example.py #======================================================================== # # Some text. # #======================================================================== debugging = 0 if debugging: def foo(): print "foo" else: def foo(): pass class Bar(): def __init__( self ): print "Created a Bar" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=func-menu.patch *** func-menu.el Thu Nov 27 17:09:36 2003 --- /tmp/xemacs-packages/lisp/edit-utils/func-menu.el Sun Oct 19 19:58:17 2003 *************** *** 1434,1446 **** (when fume-python-fully-qualified-names (goto-char (match-beginning 0)) (cond ((looking-at "\\s-+def") ! (if (re-search-backward ! "^class\\s-*\\([A-Za-z0-9_]+\\)\\s-*[(:]" nil t) ! (setq retname ! (concat ! (buffer-substring (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1)) ! "." ! retname)))))) (cons retname retpnt))))) ;; Specialised routine to find the next JavaScript function --- 1434,1446 ---- (when fume-python-fully-qualified-names (goto-char (match-beginning 0)) (cond ((looking-at "\\s-+def") ! (re-search-backward ! "^class\\s-*\\([A-Za-z0-9_]+\\)\\s-*[(:]" nil t) ! (setq retname ! (concat ! (buffer-substring (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1)) ! "." ! retname))))) (cons retname retpnt))))) ;; Specialised routine to find the next JavaScript function --=-=-= ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: - --------------------------------------- uname -a: SunOS steel 5.6 Generic_105181-31 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10 ./configure '--dynamic' '--prefix=/gorbag/export/cad/xemacs' '--site-includes=/gorbag/exta/cad/externals/SOLARIS/include' '--site-libraries=/gorbag/exta/cad/externals/SOLARIS/lib /usr/ucblib' '--with-xface' '--with-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-xpm' '--with-pop' '--with-sound=native' '--cflags=-g -O5 -mcpu=ultrasparc -fno-schedule-insns' XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `sparc-sun-solaris2.6'. 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/export/cad/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/text-modes/xpm-mode /home/2/stevee/lisp/winmgr-mode /export/cad/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/text-modes/winmgr-mode /home/2/stevee/lisp/view-process-xemacs /export/cad/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/view-process/view-process-xemacs /home/2/stevee/lisp/view-process-system-specific /export/cad/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/view-process/view-process-system-specific /home/2/stevee/lisp/view-process-mode /export/cad/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/view-process/view-process-mode /export/cad/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report /export/cad/xemacs/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: - ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.14 :author-version "2.112" :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.09 :author-version "0.2.2" :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1 .6 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver " :type single-file) 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regular) (Sun :version 1.15 :author-version "No-Upstream-Ver" :type regular)) Installed Modules: - ----------------- Features: - -------- (auto-sig flyspell ispell mail-extr gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 pgg pgg-parse pgg-def mm-view gnus-sum nnoo gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail mail-source format-spec gnus-start gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range gnus-win gnus gnus-ems gnus-xmas wid-edit xemacsbug shadow whitespace-mode imenu python-mode paren blink-paren lazy-shot cc-fonts font-lock pending-del blink-cursor highlight-region crypt crypt++ outln-18 outl-mouse outline annotations filladapt bbdb-expire bbdb-hooks efs-cu bbdb-com bbdb timezone cc-mode cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs regexp-opt multishell uniquify frame-icon kfm browse-url func-menu redo gnuserv recent-files package-get package-admin config a2ps byte-optimize bytecomp byte-compile bookmark pp dired-faces dired-xemacs dired repeater edmacro browse-kill-ring align savehist time vc vc-hooks message 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sasl-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-nomule-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp tooltalk lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars motif-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type usg-unix-v dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: - ----------------- down M-m C-k p [ a BS BS a s s up up up up up up RET d e b u g g i n g SPC = SPC 0 RET C-x C-s button1 button1up C-x C-v RET misc-user up up down down down down up up up up up up C-home misc-user next next next next next next next next next next next next prior M-x f u n c - m TAB BS TAB TAB BS BS BS BS TAB u m e TAB TAB l i TAB f TAB RET C-home C-x 1 C-end C-home mi sc-user Recent messages (most recent first): - ----------------------------------- Loading auto-sig...done Loading auto-sig... Starting new Ispell process... Loading flyspell...done Loading flyspell... Loading mail-extr...done Loading mail-extr... Loading gnus-msg...done Loading gnus-xmas...done Loading gnus-xmas... Loading gnus-msg... Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Making completion list... Making completion list... Using the CPython shell Local value of py-indent-offset set to 4 Wrote /home/2/stevee/tmp/example.py Using the CPython shell Local value of py-indent-offset set to 4 - -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Steve Evans, Zuken Limited, TEL: +44 (0)1454 207800 ext 8607 1500 Aztec West, Fax: +44 (0)1454 207803 Almondsbury, mailto:stevee@zuken.co.uk Bristol, BS32 4RF, UK Web: http://www.zuken.com Registered Linux user #217906: http://counter.li.org Public Encryption Key: http://www.gorbag.com/public-key-work.html _____________________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (SunOS) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 iD8DBQE/xjZD1a67iNP86GcRAji1AJ9tkIiRcznWHtpUvT5rWHnjRPd43gCeNOhW 1IYl8TeUjUDvmi4kirL4f10= =Om/u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 15:18:17 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARKH9v18918; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:17:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARKGKu18594 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:16:20 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARKG4t18513 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:16:04 -0500 Received: from ROSMIME02.enterprise.veritas.com (skyway-bridge.veritas.com [143.127.131.4]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARKG1v18483 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:16:01 -0500 Received: from ROSXCHCON2.enterprise.veritas.com (unverified) by ROSMIME02.enterprise.veritas.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:16:00 -0600 Received: from veritas.com ([172.21.52.86]) by ROSXCHCON2.enterprise.veritas.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:15:59 -0600 Message-ID: <3FC65BB4.9070602@veritas.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:16:52 -0600 From: Mike Spertus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6a) Gecko/20031030 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Rankin CC: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cygwin XEmacs cut-and-past broken on Win2000 References: <20031124231650.82624.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031124231650.82624.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020201000402000605020804" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Nov 2003 20:15:59.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[4603E8D0:01C3B523] X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020201000402000605020804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rick Rankin wrote: > Mike, > > This appears to be something in your configuration. I just ran the net > installer to install the cygwin build of 21.4.13 on two separate > windows 2000 > boxes, and cut-n-paste works perfectly with the windows clipboard on both > machines. Perhaps you're loading something in your init file that's > fouling up > the clipboard interaction? > Looks like the problem is (gnuserv-start) in my .xemacs/init.el, which contains: (require 'gnuserv) (gnuserv-start) (setq gnuserv-frame (selected-frame)) Am I doing the right thing? How should I handle this? Thanks, Mike > --Rick > --- Mike Spertus wrote: > > ================================================================ > > Dear Bug Team! > > As has been confirmed by Thomas Link and I in comp.emacs.xemacs, XEmacs > > does not use the Windows clipboard for cut-and-paste on Win2K. It does > > use it correctly on WinXP. See the thread > > > > > > > > > for more info. > > > > Mike > > > > ================================================================ > > > > System Info to help track down your bug: > > --------------------------------------- > > > > uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.20(0.73/3/2) 2003-02-08 12:10 i686 > > unknown unknown Cygwin > > > > ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' > > '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' > > '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' > > > > > > XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. > > > > > > Compilation / Installation: > > Source code location: > /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release > > Installation prefix: /usr/local > > Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' > > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > > Compiler: gcc > > -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX > > -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -g -O3 > > -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow > > -Wpointer-arith > > Relocating allocator for buffers: no > > GNU version of malloc: yes > > > > Window System: > > Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. > > Using MS-Windows menubars. > > Using MS-Windows scrollbars. > > Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. > > Using MS-Windows native widgets. > > Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). > > - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. > > > > TTY: > > Compiling in support for ncurses. > > > > Images: > > Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > > Compiling in support for XPM images. > > Compiling in support for PNG images. > > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > > Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. > > > > Sound: > > Compiling in support for sound (native). > > > > Databases: > > Compiling in support for GNU DBM. > > > > Internationalization: > > Compiling in support for file coding. > > > > Mail: > > Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. > > > > Other Features: > > Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. > > Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. > > > > > > > > Load-Path Lisp Shadows: > > ---------------------- > > (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report > > /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/build-report) > > > > > > Installed XEmacs Packages: > > ------------------------- > > > > ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular) > > (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular) > > (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular) > > (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file) > > (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular) > > (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular) > > (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular) > > (vm :version 7.14 :type regular) > > (viper :version 1.36 :type regular) > > (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular) > > (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular) > > (vc :version 1.37 :type regular) > > (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular) > > (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (tm :version 1.36 :type regular) > > (time :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (textools :version 1.14 :type regular) > > (text-modes :version 1.63 :type single-file) > > (texinfo :version 1.24 :type regular) > > (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) > > (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) > > (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular) > > (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) > > (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) > > (sml-mode :version 0.09 :type regular) > > (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular) > > (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) > > (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular) > > (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular) > > (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (reftex :version 1.3 :type regular) > > (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) > > (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular) > > (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular) > > (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular) > > (prog-modes > > :version > > 1 > > .83 > > :type > > single-file) > > (pgg :version 1.03 :type regular) > > (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file) > > (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular) > > (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular) > > (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file) > > (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) > > (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular) > > (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular) > > (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file) > > (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular) > > (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file) > > (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) > > (mh-e :version 1.23 :type regular) > > (mew :version 1.17 :type regular) > > (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular) > > (mail-lib :version 1.6 :type regular) > > (liece :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (jde :version 1.45 :type regular) > > (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular) > > (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular) > > (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular) > > (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular) > > (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular) > > (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) > > (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) > > (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) > > (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) > > (games :version 1.14 :type regular) > > (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) > > (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) > > (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) > > (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) > > (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) > > (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) > > (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) > > (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) > > (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) > > (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) > > (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) > > (efs :version 1.29 :type regular) > > (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) > > (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) > > (edebug :version 1.18 :type regular) > > (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) > > (ecb :version 1.1 :type regular) > > (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) > > (dired :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) > > (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) > > (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular) > > (cc-mode :version 1.39 :type regular) > > (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) > > (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) > > (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) > > (build :version 1.1 :type regular) > > (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) > > (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) > > (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) > > (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) > > > > > > Installed Modules: > > ----------------- > > > > > > Features: > > -------- > > > > (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 func-menu font > > disp-table font-lock paren blink-paren p4 cus-face zenirc-autoloads > > xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads > > xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads > > viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads > > vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads > > tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads > > texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads > > speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads > > sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads > > sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads > > sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads > > python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads > > ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads > > perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads > > pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads > > net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads > > mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads > > mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads > > ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads > > hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads > > gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads > > frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads > > footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads > > eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads > > efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads > > edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads > > dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads > > cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads > > calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads > > bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads > > Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds > > gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer > > auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete > > help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start > > custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote > > very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames > > tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast > > network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar > > dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type > > cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) > > > > > > Recent keystrokes: > > ----------------- > > > > misc-user > > > > > > Recent messages (most recent first): > > ----------------------------------- > > > > Loading xemacsbug...done > > Loading xemacsbug... > > Loading font...done > > Loading font... > > Paren mode is paren > > Loading paren...done > > Loading paren... > > Loading p4...done > > Loading p4... > > Loading cus-face...done > > Loading cus-face... > > > > > > > > > --------------020201000402000605020804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rick Rankin wrote:
    Re: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cygwin XEmacs cut-and-past broken on Win2000

    Mike,

    This appears to be something in your configuration. I just ran the net
    installer to install the cygwin build of 21.4.13 on two separate windows 2000
    boxes, and cut-n-paste works perfectly with the windows clipboard on both
    machines. Perhaps you're loading something in your init file that's fouling up
    the clipboard interaction?

    Looks like the problem is (gnuserv-start) in my .xemacs/init.el, which contains:

    (require 'gnuserv)
    (gnuserv-start)
    (setq gnuserv-frame (selected-frame))

    Am I doing the right thing? How should I handle this?

    Thanks,

    Mike

    --Rick
    --- Mike Spertus
    <Mike.Spertus@veritas.com> wrote:
    > ================================================================
    > Dear Bug Team!
    > As has been confirmed by Thomas Link and I in comp.emacs.xemacs, XEmacs
    > does not use the Windows clipboard for cut-and-paste on Win2K. It does
    > use it correctly on WinXP. See the thread
    >
    <http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=4bb78b23.0311231643.7068e08d%40posting.google.com&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.emacs.xemacs>

    >
    > for more info.
    >
    > Mike
    >
    > ================================================================
    >
    > System Info to help track down your bug:
    > ---------------------------------------
    >
    > uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.20(0.73/3/2) 2003-02-08 12:10 i686
    > unknown unknown Cygwin
    >
    > ./configure  '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no'
    > '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes'
    > '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall'
    >
    >
    > XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'.
    >
    >
    > Compilation / Installation:
    >   Source code location:              /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release
    >   Installation prefix:               /usr/local
    >   Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h'
    >   Machine description file:          `m/intel386.h'
    >   Compiler:                          gcc
    > -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX
    > -I/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.2/../../../../include/noX -g -O3
    > -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow
    > -Wpointer-arith
    >   Relocating allocator for buffers:  no
    >   GNU version of malloc:             yes
    >
    > Window System:
    >   Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system.
    >   Using MS-Windows menubars.
    >   Using MS-Windows scrollbars.
    >   Using MS-Windows dialog boxes.
    >   Using MS-Windows native widgets.
    >   Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL).
    >     -  Drag'n'Drop prototype:                              msw.
    >
    > TTY:
    >   Compiling in support for ncurses.
    >
    > Images:
    >   Compiling in support for GIF  images (builtin).
    >   Compiling in support for XPM  images.
    >   Compiling in support for PNG  images.
    >   Compiling in support for JPEG images.
    >   Compiling in support for TIFF images.
    >   Compiling in support for X-Face message headers.
    >
    > Sound:
    >   Compiling in support for sound (native).
    >
    > Databases:
    >   Compiling in support for GNU DBM.
    >
    > Internationalization:
    >   Compiling in support for file coding.
    >
    > Mail:
    >   Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval.
    >
    > Other Features:
    >   Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
    >   Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.
    >
    >
    >
    > Load-Path Lisp Shadows:
    > ----------------------
    > (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/build/build-report
    > /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/build-report)
    >
    >
    > Installed XEmacs Packages:
    > -------------------------
    >
    > ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (xslt-process :version 1.11 :type regular)
    >  (xslide :version 1.08 :type regular)
    >  (xemacs-devel :version 1.58 :type single-file)
    >  (xemacs-base :version 1.78 :type regular)
    >  (x-symbol :version 1.05 :type regular)
    >  (w3 :version 1.28 :type regular)
    >  (vm :version 7.14 :type regular)
    >  (viper :version 1.36 :type regular)
    >  (view-process :version 1.12 :type regular)
    >  (vhdl :version 1.17 :type regular)
    >  (vc-cc :version 1.21 :type regular)
    >  (vc :version 1.37 :type regular)
    >  (tramp :version 1.16 :type regular)
    >  (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular)
    >  (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (tm :version 1.36 :type regular)
    >  (time :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (textools :version 1.14 :type regular)
    >  (text-modes :version 1.63 :type single-file)
    >  (texinfo :version 1.24 :type regular)
    >  (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular)
    >  (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular)
    >  (speedbar :version 1.26 :type regular)
    >  (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular)
    >  (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular)
    >  (sml-mode :version 0.09 :type regular)
    >  (slider :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (sieve :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (sh-script :version 1.17 :type regular)
    >  (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular)
    >  (semantic :version 1.17 :type regular)
    >  (scheme :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (sasl :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (ruby-modes :version 1.01 :type regular)
    >  (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (reftex :version 1.3 :type regular)
    >  (python-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file)
    >  (psgml-dtds :version 1.02 :type regular)
    >  (psgml :version 1.41 :type regular)
    >  (ps-print :version 1.08 :type regular)
    >  (prog-modes
    >   :version
    >    1
    >    .83
    >     :type
    >      single-file)
    >  (pgg :version 1.03 :type regular)
    >  (perl-modes :version 1.04 :type single-file)
    >  (pcomplete :version 1.02 :type regular)
    >  (pcl-cvs :version 1.64 :type regular)
    >  (pc :version 1.25 :type single-file)
    >  (os-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file)
    >  (oo-browser :version 1.03 :type regular)
    >  (ocaml :version 0.04 :type regular)
    >  (net-utils :version 1.32 :type single-file)
    >  (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular)
    >  (misc-games :version 1.16 :type single-file)
    >  (mine :version 1.14 :type regular)
    >  (mh-e :version 1.23 :type regular)
    >  (mew :version 1.17 :type regular)
    >  (mailcrypt :version 2.12 :type regular)
    >  (mail-lib :version 1.6 :type regular)
    >  (liece :version 1.12 :type regular)
    >  (jde :version 1.45 :type regular)
    >  (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular)
    >  (ilisp :version 1.32 :type regular)
    >  (igrep :version 1.1 :type regular)
    >  (idlwave :version 1.3 :type regular)
    >  (ibuffer :version 1.08 :type regular)
    >  (hyperbole :version 1.12 :type regular)
    >  (hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular)
    >  (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular)
    >  (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular)
    >  (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular)
    >  (games :version 1.14 :type regular)
    >  (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file)
    >  (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular)
    >  (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file)
    >  (forms :version 1.14 :type regular)
    >  (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular)
    >  (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular)
    >  (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (ess :version 1.04 :type regular)
    >  (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular)
    >  (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular)
    >  (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file)
    >  (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular)
    >  (efs :version 1.29 :type regular)
    >  (edt :version 1.12 :type regular)
    >  (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file)
    >  (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular)
    >  (edebug :version 1.18 :type regular)
    >  (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular)
    >  (ecb :version 1.1 :type regular)
    >  (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular)
    >  (dired :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular)
    >  (debug :version 1.16 :type regular)
    >  (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular)
    >  (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular)
    >  (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular)
    >  (cc-mode :version 1.39 :type regular)
    >  (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular)
    >  (calc :version 1.23 :type regular)
    >  (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file)
    >  (build :version 1.1 :type regular)
    >  (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular)
    >  (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular)
    >  (apel :version 1.26 :type regular)
    >  (ada :version 1.13 :type regular)
    >  (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular))
    >
    >
    > Installed Modules:
    > -----------------
    >
    >
    > Features:
    > --------
    >
    > (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 func-menu font
    > disp-table font-lock paren blink-paren p4 cus-face zenirc-autoloads
    > xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads
    > xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads
    > viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads
    > vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads
    > tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads
    > texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads
    > speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads
    > sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads
    > sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads
    > sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads
    > python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads
    > ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads
    > perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads
    > pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads
    > net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads
    > mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads
    > mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads
    > ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads
    > hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads
    > gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads
    > frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads
    > footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads
    > eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads
    > efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads
    > edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads
    > dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads
    > cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads
    > calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads
    > bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads
    > Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds
    > gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer
    > auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete
    > help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start
    > custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote
    > very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames
    > tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast
    > network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar
    > dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type
    > cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64)
    >
    >
    > Recent keystrokes:
    > -----------------
    >
    > misc-user
    >
    >
    > Recent messages (most recent first):
    > -----------------------------------
    >
    > Loading xemacsbug...done
    > Loading xemacsbug...
    > Loading font...done
    > Loading font...
    > Paren mode is paren
    > Loading paren...done
    > Loading paren...
    > Loading p4...done
    > Loading p4...
    > Loading cus-face...done
    > Loading cus-face...
    >
    >
    >
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    --------------020201000402000605020804-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 16:40:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARLe1v22324; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:40:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARLd1J21867 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:39:01 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARLchp21713 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:38:43 -0500 Received: from tm2.ca.alcatel.com (kanfw1.ottawa.alcatel.ca [192.75.23.69]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARLchv21707; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:38:43 -0500 Received: from alcatel.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tm2.ca.alcatel.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hARLcfXU026714; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:38:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FC66EE0.8FBA8193@alcatel.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:38:40 -0500 From: Fred Odendaal Organization: Alcatel CID X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs 21.4.14 crashes on Linux and workarounds in Problemsfile don't fix it References: <3FC4CA43.C4D4DA61@alcatel.com> <87llq2juuc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Thanks Stephen, I did the "./configure --with-dialogs=athena --with-athena=xaw" and rebuilt xemacs. Now xemacs lauches correctly, but when I try the buttons or the respective command I get an error. For instance when I do File->Open or hit the open button or typeC-x C-f I get an error like: Symbol's function definition is void: make-annotation Any ideas on what could be causing this? regards, Fred O. "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > >>>>> "Fred" == Fred Odendaal writes: > > *WARNING* Many versions of Motif are buggy, requiring workarounds. > You are likely to experience slow redisplay. > You may need to install vendor patches to Motif. > See PROBLEMS for more information. > > We are not kidding. PROBLEMS doesn't come close to having an > exhaustive list. > > Please try ./configure --with-dialogs=athena. You need to have an > Athena-compatible library installed, and if it's not the one > distributed with X, you'll need to specify --with-athena=TYPE where > TYPE can be xaw, 3d, or a few other rarer possibilities (see > ./configure --usage). > > The Hannibal Lector GNU ld is now auto-detected, and except for a few > rare and ancient Red Hat and SuSE systems the --ldflags option will do > nothing for you except _increase_ startup time. If you want to turn > off the portable dumper feature, do so with --pdump=no. > > If you really want the Motif dialogs, we need to know what version of > Motif you're using. > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Ask not how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. -- This communication is intended to be received only by the individual or entity to whom or to which it is addressed and contains information that is confidential. Any unauthorized use, copying, review or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please delete the message and notify the sender by reply email. Thank you for your co-operation. -- Fred Odendaal Verification Manager Data BU, PG2 Alcatel Canada Phone: (613) 784-6114 Fax: (613) 599-3693 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 17:35:06 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARMZ2v16665; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:35:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARMYmV16544 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:34:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARMYjA16532 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:34:45 -0500 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARMYdv16475; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:34:39 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1APUhv-00053K-02; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:33:55 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (rCOfhUZLQeCpiJoiP5Zlga3aQcjwfvLHrnEJgJvlglPAk-I68f45Zl@[217.229.5.41]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1APUht-1Qsv9U0; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:33:53 +0100 To: Fred Odendaal Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs 21.4.14 crashes on Linux and workarounds in Problemsfile don't fix it X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B <87llq2juuc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3FC66EE0.8FBA8193@alcatel.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:34:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3FC66EE0.8FBA8193@alcatel.com> (Fred Odendaal's message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:38:40 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: rCOfhUZLQeCpiJoiP5Zlga3aQcjwfvLHrnEJgJvlglPAk-I68f45Zl X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Fred" == Fred Odendaal writes: Fred> Thanks Stephen, Fred> I did the Fred> "./configure --with-dialogs=athena --with-athena=xaw" Fred> and rebuilt xemacs. Now xemacs lauches correctly, but when I Fred> try the buttons or the respective command I get an error. Fred> For instance when I do File->Open or hit the open button or Fred> typeC-x C-f I get an error like: Fred> Symbol's function definition is void: make-annotation You need xemacs-base. See http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200302/msg00194.html http://list-archive.xemacs.org/cgi-bin/wilma_glimpse/xemacs-beta?query=make-annotation&errors=0&maxfiles=50&maxlines=10&.cgifields=lineonly&.cgifields=restricttofiles&.cgifields=filelist&.cgifields=partial&.cgifields=case want to be your friend :-) Good Luck, Adrian Fred> Any ideas on what could be causing this? Fred> regards, Fred> Fred O. <49 lines deleted by Adrian Aichner> -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 18:11:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARNB2v01225; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:11:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARNAGi00936 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:10:16 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hARNAFg00919 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:10:15 -0500 Received: from smtp2.pp.htv.fi (smtp2.pp.htv.fi [213.243.153.14]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hARNAEv00913 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:10:14 -0500 Received: from posti.pp.htv.fi (posti.pp.htv.fi [212.90.64.50]) by smtp2.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51654296D35 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:10:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from [62.78.134.79] (cs78134079.pp.htv.fi [62.78.134.79]) by posti.pp.htv.fi (8.11.1 (Revision 1.5+JAGae91741+JAGae92668) /8.11.1) with ESMTP id hARNACT14848 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:10:13 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cygwin XEmacs cut-and-past broken on Win2000 From: Ville =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Skytt=E4?= To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: <3FC65BB4.9070602@veritas.com> References: <20031124231650.82624.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC65BB4.9070602@veritas.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Message-Id: <1069974612.25525.36.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:10:12 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 22:16, Mike Spertus wrote: > Looks like the problem is (gnuserv-start) in my .xemacs/init.el, which > contains: > > (require 'gnuserv) > (gnuserv-start) > (setq gnuserv-frame (selected-frame)) > > Am I doing the right thing? How should I handle this? That looks ok. Some more info about the subprocess-kills-copy-paste: [found by googling for "xemacs subprocess copy paste"] http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin@cygwin.com/msg29922.html ISTR I saw a message somewhere some time ago that grabbing XEmacs 21.4.14 from CVS and rebuilding might also help. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 19:36:05 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS0a2v06452; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:36:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS0Zrx06384 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:35:53 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS0ZeM06287 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:35:40 -0500 Received: from tuttle.oit.pdx.edu (tuttle.oit.pdx.edu [131.252.120.29]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS0Zdv06281; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:35:39 -0500 Received: from bittersweet.hegbloom.net (host-242-121.resnet.pdx.edu [131.252.242.121]) by tuttle.oit.pdx.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAS0ZbHq003863; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localnet ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=karlheg) by bittersweet.hegbloom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1APWbh-0006Ns-P4; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:35:37 -0800 Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging From: "Karl M. Hegbloom" To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: XEmacs Beta In-Reply-To: <87wu9mdri5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> <1069884326.12697.17.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> <1069902629.9596.1.camel@juniper.hegbloom.net> <87oeuygrc1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1069921674.12685.22.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> <87wu9mdri5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1069979737.12691.56.camel@bittersweet.hegbloom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:35:37 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 02:40, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >>>>> "Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom writes: > > Karl> Hmm. Perhaps the place for that kind of thing is really in > Karl> the WM anyhow, since the similar could happen with other > Karl> applications as well? > > I suspect that XEmacs may be wrong here. The ICCCM is quite clear > that if the client and the WM disagree, the WM rules. > > Karl> I wonder why it has never happened to me with anything else? > Karl> Probably just because the only other char cell sized app I > Karl> ever run is the terminal... > > What happens when you maximize that? It just works. Actually, XEmacs does most of the time too. I'm not sure exactly what circumstances produce the maximize jitter bug. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 20:21:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS1L1v26517; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:21:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS1KRa26334 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:20:27 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS1KEX26261 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:20:14 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS1KEv26256 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:20:14 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APXIk-0004SQ-00; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:20:06 +0900 To: Quintard Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: plantage xemacs References: <3FC6289C.2060400@tele2.fr> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:20:06 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3FC6289C.2060400@tele2.fr> (Quintard's message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:38:52 +0100") Message-ID: <87brqxe1bt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Quintard" == Quintard writes: Quintard> Apres mise a jour voila la fenetre que j'obtient a Quintard> l'ouverture de xemacs. Que dois je faire poour le Quintard> retouver?? Sorry, I can't write in French. Maybe someone can translate? Quintard> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset XEmacs thinks you want it to open an X window, but your server offers _no_ X fonts by their standard names. This usually occurs when attempting to run XEmacs on a remote machine from a broken X server on Windows. I suppose it could also occur if you run XEmacs with X support built-in locally on Windows with such a server running. You can either run XEmacs in the terminal with xemacs -nw, or you can fix your X server. You should talk to the vendor about the latter. Either way we would appreciate a full description of your set up (especially the vendor and version of the X server) so we can improve the documentation for this situation. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 23:44:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS4i2v27557; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:44:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS4hju27482 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:43:45 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS4hUZ27420 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:43:30 -0500 Received: from gizmo05bw.bigpond.com (gizmo05bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.15]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAS4hTv27410 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:43:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 20003 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2003 04:44:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bwmam07.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.87) by gizmo05bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2003 04:44:54 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by bwmam07.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 62/206056) with SMTP id 206056; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:43:20 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAS4hGJj009069; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:43:16 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: Can't build xslide package Keywords: xemacs,auto-autoloads,steve,programming,packages,home,xemacs-packages,loading From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:43:13 +1000 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Building from top level or from within the package's directory gives the same result... cd /home/steve/programming/XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/xslide/ gmake xemacs -no-autoloads -vanilla -batch -eval '(setq stack-trace-on-error t load-always-display-messages t load-ignore-out-of-date-elc-files t load-show-full-path-in-messages t)' -l /home/steve/programming/XEmacs/packages/package-compile.el -- ispell mail-lib xemacs-base -- -l cus-face -l regexp-opt -l font-lock -l sendmail -l xslide-data -l xslide-abbrev -l xslide-font -l xslide-process -l xslide -f batch-byte-compile auto-autoloads.el Loading /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.14/lisp/auto-autoloads... Loading /home/steve/programming/XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads... Loading /home/steve/programming/XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib/auto-autoloads... Loading /home/steve/programming/XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ispell/auto-autoloads... # bind ( stack-trace-on-signal debug-on-signal stack-trace-on-error debug-on-error) signal(error ("Stack overflow in regexp matcher")) # bind (data error-symbol) signal-error(error ("Stack overflow in regexp matcher")) # bind (error-data) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Stack overflow in regexp matcher xemacs exiting . gmake: *** [auto-autoloads.elc] Error 255 Compilation exited abnormally with code 2 at Fri Nov 28 14:36:11 -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/G0mQACgkQHSfbS6lLMAPh+gCg1bbTxC3D/r/A9TaZbwzXWjGB awcAn0PRN1lXyZpz/FrVny8t/fwJiOfi =fbY7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 27 23:50:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS4o1v29682; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:50:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS4nC629489 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:49:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS4n9j29472 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:49:09 -0500 Received: from web21405.mail.yahoo.com (web21405.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.75]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAS4n9v29466 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:49:09 -0500 Message-ID: <20031128044908.9375.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.2.156.132] by web21405.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:49:08 PST Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:49:08 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Rankin Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.13] Cygwin XEmacs cut-and-past broken on Win2000 To: Mike Spertus Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: <3FC65BB4.9070602@veritas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --- Mike Spertus wrote: > Rick Rankin wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > This appears to be something in your configuration. I just ran the net > > installer to install the cygwin build of 21.4.13 on two separate > > windows 2000 > > boxes, and cut-n-paste works perfectly with the windows clipboard on both > > machines. Perhaps you're loading something in your init file that's > > fouling up > > the clipboard interaction? > > > Looks like the problem is (gnuserv-start) in my .xemacs/init.el, which > contains: > > (require 'gnuserv) > (gnuserv-start) > (setq gnuserv-frame (selected-frame)) > > Am I doing the right thing? How should I handle this? > This looks very much like the subprocess problem I mentioned earlier. If this is what I suspect, it was actually a Cygwin problem that was corrected *after* the release of 1.5.5-1, which is the most current release available through Cygwin's setup program. *Assuming* that you're currently running 1.5.5-1, here's what you need to do: 1) Download the current DLL snapshot (cygwin1-20031127.dll.bz2) from http://sourceware.redhat.com/cygwin/snapshots into a temporary directory. 2) Uncompress it. 3) Save your existing cygwin1.dll 4) Copy the snapshot DLL over the current one. Note that steps 3 & 4 *MUST* be done from a regular Windows command prompt or Explorer, *NOT* from any Cygwin shell. In fact, you must be sure to terminate all Cygwin-related processes (remember to check for services such as inetd, sshd, PostgreSQL's postmaster, etc.) before performing steps 3 & 4. Once you've updated the DLL, the cut-n-paste problem should go away. --Rick From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 00:45:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS5j3v06229; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:45:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS5iXt06046 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:44:33 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS5iJ805999 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:44:19 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS5iIv05993 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:44:19 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APbQO-0006WI-00 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:44:16 +0900 To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Can't build xslide package References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:44:16 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:43:13 +1000") Message-ID: <87y8u1caj3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> Building from top level or from within the package's directory SY> gives the same result... SY> Stack overflow in regexp matcher What version of XEmacs? I would not expect this to happen in 21.4.pre15 or 21.5.x, but I don't think the patch to 21.4 is in 21.4.14. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 01:01:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS611v11038; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:01:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS60jj10969 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:00:45 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS60ik10949 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:00:44 -0500 Received: from gizmo13bw.bigpond.com (gizmo13bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.23]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAS60gv10943 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:00:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 29366 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2003 05:59:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bwmam13.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.106) by gizmo13bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2003 05:59:47 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by bwmam13.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 198/230844) with SMTP id 230844; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:00:36 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAS60Ycd010878; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:00:34 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Can't build xslide package Keywords: sjt References: <87y8u1caj3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:00:31 +1000 In-Reply-To: <87y8u1caj3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:44:16 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>>>"SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> Stack overflow in regexp matcher SJT> What version of XEmacs? 21.4.14+my-pui-enhancements SJT> I would not expect this to happen in 21.4.pre15 or 21.5.x, but SJT> I don't think the patch to 21.4 is in 21.4.14. I'll try updating. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/G5IIACgkQHSfbS6lLMAOwOwCfUospDS/HwxtbccmJpBzLeiUc fF8AoJeXRmY/ywId0OMhZ/JMNrbUNuVp =Odie -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 02:34:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS7Y1v02499; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:34:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS7XTH02402 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:33:29 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS7XOV02386 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:33:24 -0500 Received: from mailx.danfoss.com (mailx.danfoss.com [193.162.34.6]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS7X7v02328; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:33:22 -0500 Received: from dkdn04mx64.dkdn04.danfoss.net ([10.6.2.64]) by mailx.danfoss.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:33:03 +0100 Received: from df01-e02.danfoss.net ([10.8.66.102]) by 10.6.4.64 with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:33:02 +0100 Received: by df01-e02.danfoss.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:33:01 +0100 Message-ID: <829F632D2F25D411B6920008C716F831063467E2@dd01-e01.dd01.danfoss.net> From: Hansen Martin To: Michael Diers , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: diff on large file on checkin Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:33:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2003 07:33:03.0073 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB464510:01C3B581] X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi Clearcase team I discovered a bug. If I have a large file checked out (in my case 702754 bytes in 4349 lines), and I only make changes in the end of this file, (in my case the last two lines). emacs-cleartool tells me that there is no difference, and ask if I want to undo checkout, if say no (obviously) nothing happens. To check in this file I have two options change something in the top of the file or use another tool to check in with. thanks for this package, we are 30+ developers using it. Emacs: XEmacs 21.4 (patch 13) "Rational FORTRAN" [Lucid] (hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.11) of Tue Jul 15 2003 on w72035 Package: clearcase.el current state: ============== (setq system-type 'hpux system-configuration "hppa2.0w-hp-hpux11.11" emacs-version "21.4 (patch 13) \"Rational FORTRAN\" XEmacs Lucid" clearcase-clearcase-version-installed "ClearCase version 2002.05.00 (Tue Oct 30 09:18:29 EST 2001)\nclearcase_p2002.05.00-23 (Fri May 23 06:35:53 EDT 2003)\nclearcase_p2002.05.00-24 (Tue May 27 06:38:24 EDT 2003)\nmultisite_p2002.05.00-7 (Thu May 22 06:13:34 EDT 2003)\nclearcase_p2002.05.00-26 (Wed Aug 06 14:46:23 EDT 2003)\nmultisite_p2002.05.00-8 (Wed Aug 06 08:06:57 EDT 2003)\n@(#) MVFS version 2002.05.00 (Wed Apr 9 10:44:33 EDT 2003)\ncleartool 2002.05.00 (Fri Oct 26 20:30:40 EDT 2001)\ndb_server 2002.05.00+ (Sun Jun 1 03:53:55 EDT 2003)\nVOB database schema version: 53\n" clearcase-cleartool-path "/usr/atria/bin/cleartool" clearcase-lt nil clearcase-v3 nil clearcase-v4 nil clearcase-v5 t clearcase-servers-online t clearcase-disable-tq nil clearcase-on-cygwin32 nil clearcase-setview-root "/view/mah__p400_devel" clearcase-suppress-vc-within-mvfs t shell-file-name "/usr/local/bin/zsh" ) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 02:57:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS7v1v08033; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:57:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS7uNj07897 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:56:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS7uMX07873 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:56:22 -0500 Received: from mta03.btfusion.com (mta03.btfusion.com [62.172.195.12]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS7uHv07856 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:56:17 -0500 Received: from [81.130.192.143] (helo=server.RSYC.ORG.UK) by mta03.btfusion.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AOvRp-0000cq-RP for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:54:57 +0000 From: postmaster@rsyc.org.uk To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:10:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="9B095B5ADSN=_01C3B1B600190FB400000512server.RSYC.ORG." 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    --9B095B5ADSN=_01C3B1B600190FB400000512server.RSYC.ORG.-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 03:51:19 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS8p2v24159; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:51:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS8o6D23923 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:50:06 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS8o3n23899 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:50:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS8o3v23895 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:50:03 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APeK7-0006xH-00 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:49:59 +0900 To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Can't build xslide package References: <87y8u1caj3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:49:59 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:00:31 +1000") Message-ID: <87ekvsdgi0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SJT> I would not expect this to happen in 21.4.pre15 or 21.5.x, but SJT> I don't think the patch to 21.4 is in 21.4.14. SY> I'll try updating. OK. I had a chance to check, and it's in 21.4 CVS. It's still a hard limit, but the limit was bumped from 2000 to 20000. Although we've had a few people run into the smaller limit, all (so far) have said the higher limit was enough. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 03:57:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAS8v1v25868; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:57:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS8uRf25705 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:56:27 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAS8uPD25692 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:56:25 -0500 Received: from gizmo13ps.bigpond.com (gizmo13ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.23]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAS8uOv25674 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:56:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 15097 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2003 08:55:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam03.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.75) by gizmo13ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2003 08:55:07 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by psmam03.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 89/696731) with SMTP id 696731; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:56:21 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAS8uH8M020784; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:56:17 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Can't build xslide package Keywords: sjt References: <87y8u1caj3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:56:13 +1000 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:00:31 +1000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: SJT> I would not expect this to happen in 21.4.pre15 or 21.5.x, but SJT> I don't think the patch to 21.4 is in 21.4.14. SY> I'll try updating. That fixed it. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/HDbAACgkQHSfbS6lLMAPLQQCfT4UZK+kZhsLU8HGQYe+BRR/g ZWcAn1oGupNjbDHb7UvuAurP0fRX0Mvm =jOPp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 06:01:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hASB12v24507; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:01:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASB02923579 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:00:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASB01723562 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:00:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hASB01v23558 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:00:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASAxYC23301 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 05:59:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASAxX623286 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 05:59:33 -0500 Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.97.253]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hASAxWv23271 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 05:59:32 -0500 Received: from tleeps18.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleeps18.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.98]) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (8.10.2+Sun/3.7W) with ESMTP id hASAxVg19852 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=tleeps18.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ident=stephen) by tleeps18.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5UEq-0001xD-00; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 03:01:12 +0900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Subject: [issue81] install failing under RedHat 8.0 To: crashes@xemacs.org, dkruger@stevens-tech.edu From: Ville =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Skytt=E4?= Reply-To: XEmacs issue tracker Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:00:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1064937818.20197.81.camel@bobcat.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <1064927615.1075.1301.camel@kelvin> X-Roundup-Name: XEmacs issue tracker X-Roundup-Loop: hello Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id hASAxWv23271 Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,WEIRD_PORT autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Ville =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Skytt=E4?= added the comment: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 16:13, Dov Kruger wrote: > I can't find a core file that has been generated. Red Hat 8.0 doesn't generate core files by default. See http://www.xemacs.org/Debug/index.html#ReportingBugs ---------- status: unread -> chatting _________________________________________ XEmacs issue tracker _________________________________________ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 07:31:06 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hASCV2v19645; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:31:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASCUVu19318 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:30:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASCUTM19269 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:30:29 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hASCUSv19239 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:30:28 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APhlS-0007qJ-00 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:30:26 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Apology for spew from "xemacs-tracker" Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:30:26 +0900 Message-ID: <87smk8brq5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , *sigh* Mail is hard. I thought I had the (still experimental) issue tracker's mailer disabled, but Debian rewrote the conffiles when I upgraded, and it went nuts again. My apologies to all who were inconvenienced, and I will try to remember to remove all communication devices from that box when next I work on the tracker. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 09:21:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hASEL2v24514; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:21:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASEKlx24438 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:20:47 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASEKPu24305 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:20:25 -0500 Received: from alpha.uwhosting.net ([216.67.235.147]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hASEKOv24301 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:20:24 -0500 Received: from a26034.upc-a.chello.nl ([62.163.26.34] helo=dirkgerrits.com) by alpha.uwhosting.net with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1APjTl-0001t2-Tv for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:20:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3FC759DB.1040401@dirkgerrits.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:21:15 +0100 From: Dirk Gerrits User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031105 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [Bug: 21.4.14] Parentheses not highlighted in the correct color under GTK+. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alpha.uwhosting.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - xemacs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dirkgerrits.com X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Dear Bug Team! I'm using Debian GNU/Linux unstable with the 2.6.0-test11 kernel with XFree 4.3.0, GNOME 2.4 and XEmacs from the xemacs21-gnome-mule APT package. I've let the default light-greenish color-setting for parenthesis-highlighting alone, yet they are being highlighting in light-gray which is very hard to see on a white background. This happens with all forms of parenthesis highlighting. I think it might somehow be related to GTK+ themes, because by changing themes I was able to change the light gray into pure white. Also, in the non-GNOME version of XEmacs (xemacs21-mule package) the highlighting is in the correct, greenish color. Yet, in the CVS version of GNU Emacs built with GTK+ 2.0 support it also works correctly. Hope you guys can figure this out. If you need more info, just ask. Regards, Dirk Gerrits System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux eeyore 2.4.23-pre5 #1 Mon Sep 22 17:03:40 EDT 2003 i686 GNU/Linux ./configure '--with-sound=none,native' '--cflags=-O2 -Wall' '--with-x11' '--extra-verbose' '--with-site-lisp' '--with-database=berkdb' '--statedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/xemacs-21.4.14' '--prefix=/usr' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--dynamic' '--with-pop' '--use-regex-malloc=no' '--with-gpm=no' '--with-file-coding' '--pdump' '--with-gtk' '--with-gnome' '--docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.14/i386-debian-linux/gnome-mule/' '--with-mule' '--with-canna=no' '--with-wnn=no' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-xfs' '--package-path=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages:~/.xemacs/xemacs-packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/xemacs-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/mule-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' 'i386-debian-linux' XEmacs 21.4.14 "Reasonable Discussion" configured for `i386-debian-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/dres/project/debian/current/xemacs21/xemacs-21.4.14 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -Wall Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Using GTK menubars. Using GTK scrollbars. Using GTK dialog boxes. Using GTK native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: postgresql/libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for file coding. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- Using alloca to allocate the failure stack. It may be impossible to detect stack exhaustion, and you will crash. Do NOT use this build of XEmacs for ordinary work. WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- Using the new portable dumper. 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(hm--html-menus :version 1.21 :type regular) (haskell-mode :version 1.05 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.71 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.15 :type regular) (general-docs :version 1.0 :type regular) (games :version 1.14 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.12 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.1 :type regular) (fortran-modes :version 1.02 :type single-file) (forms :version 1.14 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.38 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.14 :type regular) (ess :version 1.04 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.05 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.1 :type regular) (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.04 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 2.07 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.47 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.19 :type regular) (ecrypto :version 0.13 :type regular) (ecb :version 1.12 :type regular) (docbookide :version 0.06 :type regular) (dired :version 1.14 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.12 :type regular) (debug :version 1.16 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.13 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular) (clearcase :version 1.06 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.4 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.21 :type regular) (calc :version 1.23 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.17 :type single-file) (build :version 1.1 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.23 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.35 :type regular) (apel :version 1.26 :type regular) (ada :version 1.13 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.14 :type regular)) Installed Modules: ----------------- Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 paren blink-paren timer lazy-lock font-lock cus-face hippie-exp ansi-color completer ilcompat il-luc19 emacs-goodies-el emacs-goodies-custom emacs-goodies-loaddefs dpkg-dev-el dpkg-dev-el-loaddefs ispell debian-el debian-el-loaddefs efs-autoloads igrep-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads text-modes-autoloads mule-autoloads skk-autoloads mule-ucs-autoloads mule-base-autoloads lookup-autoloads locale-autoloads leim-autoloads latin-unity-autoloads egg-its-autoloads edict-autoloads zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads general-docs-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks widgets-gtk dialog-gtk gtk-file-dialog gtk-password-dialog gtk-iso8859-1 x-iso8859-1 gdk gtk-ffi slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp postgresqlv7 postgresql file-coding mule gtk-scrollbars gtk-menubars gtk-ui gtk-dialogs gtk tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- M-x r e p TAB o TAB r t - e TAB BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS x TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading 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Loading 60cltl...done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 18:29:32 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hASNT1v19684; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:29:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASNSVl19526 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:28:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hASNSH019465 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:28:17 -0500 Received: from gizmo02bw.bigpond.com (gizmo02bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.12]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hASNSGv19460 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:28:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 9517 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2003 23:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bwmam12.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.103) by gizmo02bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2003 23:29:41 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by bwmam12.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 189/476226) with SMTP id 476226; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:28:12 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hASNSAZD017175; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:28:10 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: Speed kills -- 21.5 users will live a very long life. Keywords: athena,xemacs,usr,local,inlines From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:28:04 +1000 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= A simple comparison: XEmacs 21.4.14 (latest CVS + my PUI enhancements) time xemacs -kill real 0m29.846s user 0m21.567s sys 0m1.287s XEmacs 21.5.15 (latest CVS) time ./xemacs -kill real 2m19.488s user 0m55.854s sys 0m2.759s That's pretty horrible. The 21.4 was configured with: ./configure \ '--extra-verbose' '--site-prefixes=/usr/local/pgsql:/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.1' \ '--dynamic=yes' \ '--with-gtk=no' \ '--with-gnome=no' \ '--with-toolbars' \ '--with-wmcommand' \ '--with-athena=next' \ '--with-menubars=lucid' \ '--with-scrollbars=athena' \ '--with-dialogs=athena' \ '--with-widgets=athena' \ '--with-gif' \ '--with-sound=native,noesd' \ '--with-site-lisp=no' \ '--with-site-modules' \ '--pdump' \ '--with-mule' \ '--with-xfs' \ '--error-checking=none' \ '--with-clash-detection' \ '--cflags=-s -O3 -Wall -march=k6 -malign-double \ -fomit-frame-pointer \ -funroll-loops \ -fexpensive-optimizations \ -fschedule-insns2 \ -D__NO_STRING_INLINES \ -D__NO_MATH_INLINES' The 21.5 was configured with: ../src/configure \ '--srcdir=../src' \ '--extra-verbose' \ '--site-prefixes=/usr/local/pgsql:/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.1' \ '--dynamic=yes' \ '--with-athena=next' \ '--with-menubars=lucid' \ '--with-scrollbars=athena' \ '--with-dialogs=athena' \ '--with-widgets=athena' \ '--with-site-lisp=no' \ '--with-site-modules' \ '--with-mule' \ '--with-xfs' \ '--debug=no' \ '--error-checking=none' \ '--with-clash-detection' \ '--external-widget' \ '--cflags=-O3 -pipe -march=k6 -malign-double \ -fomit-frame-pointer \ -funroll-loops \ -fexpensive-optimizations \ -fschedule-insns2 \ -D__NO_STRING_INLINES \ -D__NO_MATH_INLINES' \ '--use-kkcc' Yes there are a couple of differences in the two configurations, but nothing that could account for such a massive slow down. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/H2goACgkQHSfbS6lLMAMeygCfVXhfyBtC6DZoDEOrBGedB9Ul Hz4An37QDRYBNhNQeZTys8bf+1C8TGlN =UzOf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 20:44:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT1i1v01047; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:44:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT1h3L00754 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:43:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT1gms00692 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:42:48 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (h80ad279a.async.vt.edu [128.173.39.154]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT1glv00682; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:42:47 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id hAT1ge02030743; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:42:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200311290142.hAT1ge02030743@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Vincent Plagnol , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:37:35 +0900." <87he0qjuk0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> <87he0qjuk0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-116001414P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:42:40 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-116001414P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:37:35 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" said: > >>>>> "Vincent" == Vincent Plagnol writes: > Second, fedora has the "Freddy vs. Jason exec" feature, which > randomizes where your executable gets loaded or something like that. > While so far it is believed that this should _not_ cause problems for > an XEmacs enabled with the portable dumper, you never know. You might > try turning off the special feature in the loader that does this. > > Contact the OS vendor for more information. Running Fedora-Core 1.0, and a 2.6.0-test10-mm1 kernel with exec-shield patch. Even --pdump is *NOT* safe if exec-shield-randomize is set to 1. It rolls over and dies (even a ./xemacs -vanilla --kill) with a SIGSEGV. I'd report more, but it's slow going, as gdb doesn't seem to like the way things move around... echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield-randomize works around it. I'll post more soon as I figure out what's going on. --==_Exmh_-116001414P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/x/mPcC3lWbTT17ARArKHAKCOiqS8sljyN1fGH6HPkqapW/47/ACdHHJC NDHaCrvlahrNib+XsbrFT6c= =O3/E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-116001414P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 21:58:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT2w1v27383; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:58:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT2vMG27185 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:57:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT2vKf27166 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:57:20 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT2vJv27149 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:57:19 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APvIL-0001Zr-00 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:57:17 +0900 To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Speed kills -- 21.5 users will live a very long life. References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:57:17 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:28:04 +1000") Message-ID: <877k1jc25u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> A simple comparison: XEmacs 21.4.14 (latest CVS + my PUI SY> enhancements) SY> time xemacs -kill SY> real 0m29.846s First, did you reboot, then run cold and hot timings? Second, if not, were there other instances running? Third, what is your platform? Fourth, are you connected to the net (those times look to me like you're blocking on a net look up -- you wouldn't happen to have gnus stuff in your init.el)? On a 450MHz PII with a normally optimized full error-checking (which mattaers a lot in mule) 21.5.16 plus Xft (which matters a bit) and some other junk that shouldn't be exercised, I get real 0m9.421s user 0m5.610s sys 0m0.170s This is a -vanilla warm start with another instance running, but I easily get a full desktop.el cold start (boot, log in, XEmacs is started by xsm) with almost all of the real time spent in font-lock (about 40 25~150KB buffers being fontified) in 3m30s real time on that machine. Slow, yes, but I don't see the huge difference that you do between 21.5 and 21.4. It really would help if you could give more information about what's going on in your initialization here. Surely something is horribly slow for you in 21.5, but unless you tell me I won't know.... -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 28 22:21:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT3L1v03300; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:21:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT3K3Q03024 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:20:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT3JpO02961 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:19:51 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (h80ad279a.async.vt.edu [128.173.39.154]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT3Jnv02949; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:19:50 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.13.0.PreAlpha4) with ESMTP id hAT3Jc02008490; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:19:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200311290319.hAT3Jc02008490@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4+dev Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Vincent Plagnol , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.4.14] resizing window hanging In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:42:40 EST." <200311290142.hAT1ge02030743@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <200311261919.hAQJJnVa010689@hto-pc38.cmb.usc.edu> <87he0qjuk0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200311290142.hAT1ge02030743@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-19051770P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:19:37 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-19051770P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:42:40 EST, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu said: > Even --pdump is *NOT* safe if exec-shield-randomize is set to 1. > It rolls over and dies (even a ./xemacs -vanilla --kill) with a > SIGSEGV. I'd report more, but it's slow going, as gdb doesn't seem > to like the way things move around... > > echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield-randomize > > works around it. I'll post more soon as I figure out what's going on. Also, it only dies if you had a stray 'LDFLAGS=-pie' in effect. I've opened http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=111183 regarding the gdb issue (it flames out if program linked with -pie). So this is the same bug (in essence) that I already mentioned once with the exec-shield '-pie' support. --==_Exmh_-19051770P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE/yBBIcC3lWbTT17ARAk6BAJ4to0fRR7nkMZGVPvjosI3D0guepgCgoTUT j6JwpAb3Trn6q7slRKNomgA= =Gn+f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-19051770P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 00:46:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT5k1v15623; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:46:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT5j3a14708 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:45:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT5j0c14645 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:45:00 -0500 Received: from stephens.ittc.ku.edu (stephens.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT5j0v14641 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:45:00 -0500 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu (diannao.ittc.ku.edu [129.237.126.112]) by stephens.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/ITTC-ANTISPAM-ANTIVIRUS-3.0) with ESMTP id hAT5iijb019263 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:44:44 -0600 Received: from diannao.ittc.ku.edu by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/KU-4.0-client) id hAT5ihZm001766; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:44:43 -0600 Received: (from james@localhost) by diannao.ittc.ku.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAT5ihIm001764; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:44:43 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: diannao.ittc.ku.edu: james set sender to james@eecs.ku.edu using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: Package problem: miscompiled macros References: From: Jerry James X-Face: +5(Pfr,;N>q#6NT,Qi5^TQh-MaUnz#kGN~OW[CQj~RS+sIor( '_8K^f9u^Y#.N`>9oKN$\JpI Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:44:43 -0600 In-Reply-To: (Norbert Koch's message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:02:45 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-VirusScan: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Norbert Koch wrote: >> It looks like nobody has run gen-macro-list.awk since I first submitted >> it nearly a year ago. :-( It needs to be run to bring macro.list up to >> date. Do one of you package guys want to grab that, or would you rather >> I submitted a patch? > > Of course I prefer patches :-) I haven't even known about your > scripts. You've brought it up in a time when I was (even more) only > an XEmacs user (and I've never wondered about them, my bad). Except that I'm an idiot. The macro.list file is listed in .cvsignore, for the simple fact that it's so quick and easy to generate using gen-macro-list.awk. So the fact that mine is nearly a year old means that *I* haven't run it in all that time, and says nothing about anybody else. That deserves a smack in the forehead. <*smack!*> About a year ago, we had a rash of reports about miscompiled macro calls. I thought that there must be an automatic way of finding those before package release, and wrote the scripts. That they are AWK scripts you can blame on the fact that I wanted to learn AWK at the time.:-) This is the idea. The gen-macro-list.awk script searches through the package code for every defmacro, defmacro*, defsubst, etc. it can find, and outputs the macro/subst name and file of definition for each. This output is stored in macro.list by convention. When the packages are built, save the build messages somewhere, maybe packages-make-all.err to be parallel with the source distribution. Since the byte-compiler complains about unknown functions, what we want to do is match up those complaints with the list of macro/subst definitions. The match-up is done like this: awk -f find-macro-err.awk < packages-make-all.err That spits out a list of the mataches, and where they are defined. It is not perfect; there is at least one false positive on the list. However, it is a durn sight better than nothing. >> The one exception is combine-after-change-calls, which is called in >> mmm-mode/mmm-cmds.el. We don't have it. An example of working around >> that is in prog-modes/diff-mode.el. This is something that should go >> into the fsf-compat package. > > Can you cons up something for this? Hmmmm... The existing stuff in fsf-compat is in files named after the Emacs version. However, combine-after-change-calls is in subr.el in Emacs, and we already have a subr.el. How should I name it? Does it really belong in fsf-compat after all? >> You package guys don't have a Real Life (tm), right? :-) > >:-) It's begun to kick in lately. Me, too, except that I've spent yesterday and today basking in the glow of too much consumed turkey. -- Jerry James, thankful for American holidays http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 00:44:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT5i1v14336; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:44:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT5hAh13948 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:43:10 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT5gqF10450 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:42:52 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT5gpv10123; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:42:52 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1APxsT-00021b-00; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:42:45 +0900 To: sryoungs@bigpond.net.au, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, mike@xemacs.org Subject: "weak test failures ... bitch at stephen" References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:42:45 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:09:20 +1000") Message-ID: <87u14nafxm.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> weak-test failures... SY> KNOWN BUG - fix reverted; after 2003-10-31 bitch at stephen SY> : Assertion failed: (equal (weak-list-list weaklist4) testlist) Oops, forgot that was still in there. Thanks for the reminder! Patch that "fixes this for stephen" is waiting on approval from mike, or maybe he wants more performance testing. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 02:57:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT7v4v27668; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:57:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT7uIA27465 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:56:18 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT7u9O27420 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:56:09 -0500 Received: from grendel.jwz.org (h132.128.meer.net [209.157.133.132]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT7u8v27413 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:56:08 -0500 Received: from grendel.jwz.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grendel.jwz.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id hAT7u7aM015705 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:56:08 -0800 Message-ID: <3FC85117.6CF0E8AD@jwz.org> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:56:07 -0800 From: Jamie Zawinski Organization: my own bad self X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (X11; N; Linux 2.4.20-8smp i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: how do I turn off file locking? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , It used to be that (setq lock-directory nil) would tell xemacs to never, ever prompt me with "user blah is locking file foo, really edit?" Apparently things have been "improved" such that this is no longer the case. I tried (defun file-locked-p (file) nil) but that doesn't fix it either. debug-on-quit / debug-on-error tricks only get me as far as Signaling: (quit) sit-for(3) byte-code("..." [...] 6) ask-user-about-lock-minibuf("/tmp/a" "jwz@grendel.jwz.org (pid 9839)") ask-user-about-lock("/tmp/a" "jwz@grendel.jwz.org (pid 9839)") self-insert-command(1) How do I break the legs off this horrid misfeature? XEmacs 21.4.12. -- Jamie Zawinski jwz@jwz.org http://www.jwz.org/ jwz@dnalounge.com http://www.dnalounge.com/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 03:24:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT8O0v04904; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:24:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT8NUv04757 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:23:30 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT8NSF04734 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:23:28 -0500 Received: from gizmo11bw.bigpond.com (gizmo11bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.21]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAT8NRv04723 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:23:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 13972 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 07:12:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bwmam13.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.106) by gizmo11bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 07:12:54 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by bwmam13.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 198/618244) with SMTP id 618244; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:23:24 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAT8NN7S027173; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:23:23 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: "weak test failures ... bitch at stephen" Keywords: stephen,sjt References: <87u14nafxm.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:23:19 +1000 In-Reply-To: <87u14nafxm.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:42:45 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>>>"SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> weak-test failures... SY> KNOWN BUG - fix reverted; after 2003-10-31 bitch at stephen SY> : Assertion failed: (equal (weak-list-list weaklist4) testlist) SJT> Oops, forgot that was still in there. Thanks for the reminder! You're welcome. Not building 21.5 too often these days huh? :-P SJT> Patch that "fixes this for stephen" is waiting on approval from SJT> mike, or maybe he wants more performance testing. Cool, a clean test suite RSN[tm]. BTW, just curious as to why the C tests aren't run if error checking is turned off? -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/IV3sACgkQHSfbS6lLMAOiKQCgsnPf90bmBgGnDI6JJGdIbta2 bH8AoKYSQYW+qtyFtyJ46XZHINV3KNkj =I1Wg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 03:47:10 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT8l5v13398; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:47:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT8k7I13036 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:46:07 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT8jrZ12946 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:45:53 -0500 Received: from gizmo05ps.bigpond.com (gizmo05ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.15]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAT8jqv12941 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:45:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 18163 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 08:41:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam14.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.109) by gizmo05ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 08:41:51 -0000 Received: from 138.130.240.50 ([138.130.240.50]) by psmam14.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 252/1021583) with SMTP id 1021583; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:45:48 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAT8jhgc027545; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:45:43 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Cc: Jamie Zawinski Subject: Re: how do I turn off file locking? References: <3FC85117.6CF0E8AD@jwz.org> From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta , Jamie Zawinski Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:45:39 +1000 In-Reply-To: <3FC85117.6CF0E8AD@jwz.org> (Jamie Zawinski's message of "Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:56:07 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "JZ" == Jamie Zawinski writes: JZ> It used to be that (setq lock-directory nil) would tell xemacs to never, JZ> ever prompt me with "user blah is locking file foo, really edit?" JZ> Apparently things have been "improved" such that this is no longer JZ> the case. [...] JZ> How do I break the legs off this horrid misfeature? Does `(setq inhibit-clash-detection t)' give you what you need? -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/IXLcACgkQHSfbS6lLMANPwwCfWNkRbDHDh041MFtHMbWFtGRJ 8QEAoMTE61Ni0WDQ9AiBnODLr4jIsaHl =fu0B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 03:52:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT8q1v15147; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:52:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT8pFF14850 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:51:15 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAT8pEs14833 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:51:14 -0500 Received: from grendel.jwz.org (h132.128.meer.net [209.157.133.132]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAT8pDv14827 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:51:13 -0500 Received: from grendel.jwz.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grendel.jwz.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id hAT8p7aM020397; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:51:07 -0800 Message-ID: <3FC85DFB.34534B43@jwz.org> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:51:07 -0800 From: Jamie Zawinski Organization: my own bad self X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (X11; N; Linux 2.4.20-8smp i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Youngs CC: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: how do I turn off file locking? References: <3FC85117.6CF0E8AD@jwz.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs wrote: > > Does `(setq inhibit-clash-detection t)' give you what you need? Yes, thanks. Never in a million years would I have found that, since it does not have "lock" in its name, and the messages do not use the word "clash". -- Jamie Zawinski jwz@jwz.org http://www.jwz.org/ jwz@dnalounge.com http://www.dnalounge.com/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 07:04:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATC41v26388; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:04:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATC3wF26360 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:03:58 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATC3u826324 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:03:56 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATC3tv26316 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:03:55 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQ3pJ-0002tZ-00 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:03:53 +0900 To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: "weak test failures ... bitch at stephen" References: <87u14nafxm.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:03:53 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:23:19 +1000") Message-ID: <87ad6f9yae.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> You're welcome. Not building 21.5 too often these days huh? SY> :-P Every day or so, why? I'm running _with_ my patch (third version, actually)---doing this wrong results in crashes, that's why Mike's original patch was backed out, and I abandoned my first two tries. These test failures do not change the meaning of correctly written programs (as I understand it, and assuming you have infinite memory); it's a performance issue (allowing some stuff that is semantically garbage to get collected although there are still "weak" pointers to it around). SY> BTW, just curious as to why the C tests aren't run if error SY> checking is turned off? Dunno. I suspect a lot of them depend on side effects of the error checking versions of the macros or something like that. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 07:17:01 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATCH1v00688; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:17:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATCGYk00460 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:16:34 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATCGWI00440 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:16:32 -0500 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATCGUv00418; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:16:30 -0500 Received: from sfwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AQ41V-0006Te-00; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:16:29 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (rXC7z+Zbrex8j6Dbi7ZK3Day6zUcRoMIEVj-hDrsc60lTF8x6D5I0S@[217.89.4.39]) by afwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AQ41T-1g66u80; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:16:27 +0100 To: jany.quintard@free.fr Cc: XEmacs Beta List Subject: HTML auto-intend problem (Re: Bug report) X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:16:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031127102434.GA26272@figue> (Jany Quintard's message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:24:35 +0100") Message-ID: <3cc7jrno.fsf@smtpmail.t-online.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: rXC7z+Zbrex8j6Dbi7ZK3Day6zUcRoMIEVj-hDrsc60lTF8x6D5I0S X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jany" == Jany Quintard writes: Jany> Adrian, sorry to bug you, but I submitted a report: Jany> * To: XEmacs Beta Jany> * Subject: Subject: [Bug: 21.4.13] indent Jany> * From: Jany Quintard Jany> * Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:57:44 +0200 Jany> This was about the indenting under Win2K. I provided a test case, but Jany> can't manage to find any answer. Jany> Maybe it is not a bug and I am missing a feature somewhere? Jany> Could you tell me? Hi Jany, your example works fine for me in (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.5 (beta16) \"celeriac\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32, Mule) of Mon Nov 10 2003 on D5DC120J" and (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.4 (patch 14) \"Reasonable Discussion\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Sat Nov 15 2003 on D5DC120J" When you're in the index.html buffer, please do C-h m (describe-mode) It should give you mode help for HTML mode, amongst other minor things. Also try: C-h f (describe-function) html-mode which should tell you: `html-mode' (buffer: *Hyper Apropos*, mode: Hyper-Apropos) Interactive compiled Lisp function, (loaded from "psgml-html"): let us know what you find! Good Luck, Adrian Jany> TiA. Jany -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 13:15:07 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATIF2v04100; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:15:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATIEOb03751 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:14:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATIEBm03639 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:14:11 -0500 Received: from mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx4.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.29]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATIE3v03568; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:14:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174B610B3; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:14:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx4 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03362-05; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:14:02 +0100 (NFT) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.50]) by mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0191066; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:14:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hATIE2Sh075982; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:14:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sperber@sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id hATIE188075981; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:14:01 +0100 (CET) To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Michael Sperber In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:00:01 +0100") Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:14:01 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090019 (Oort Gnus v0.19) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> For me the even more important point is that the Xft patch is, by Hrvoje> Matthias's own admission, completely broken under Mule. If that is Hrvoje> not enough for a veto, I don't know what is. Huh? All kinds of things are "completely broken under Mule" or were for the longest time? (Like Windows, I think.) The point here is that the Xft stuff can be turned off at configure time, and then it won't affect Mule at all. -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 13:37:04 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATIb2v16876; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:37:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATIaSr16609 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:36:28 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATIaDv16497 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:36:13 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hATIaCv16491 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:36:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 15616 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 19:36:11 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.14) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 19:36:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 3102 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 19:36:10 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 19:36:10 +0100 To: Michael Sperber Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:38:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Michael Sperber's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:14:01 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Michael Sperber writes: > Huh? All kinds of things are "completely broken under Mule" or were > for the longest time? I'm personally using Mule (for Latin 2), and I'm not aware of this huge list of XEmacs features broken under Mule. Code that is completely broken under Mule should not be introduced to XEmacs, especially if the maintainers themselves say that they don't understand Mule and show no evidence of willingness to fix the breakage in the near future. > The point here is that the Xft stuff can be turned off at configure > time, and then it won't affect Mule at all. Asking people to turn Mule off so they can enjoy antialiased font display is ridiculous. I thought we were moving in the direction of enabling Mule by default! Surely we should take care for new features to work with Mule? From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 13:50:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATIo0v24035; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:50:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATInUG23749 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:30 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATInJh23660 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:19 -0500 Received: from mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx4.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.29]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATInEv23630; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9C01083; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:49:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx4 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20518-04; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:49:13 +0100 (NFT) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.50]) by mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8727E1078; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:49:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hATInDSh076280; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:49:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sperber@sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id hATInDOU076279; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:49:13 +0100 (CET) To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Michael Sperber In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:38:41 +0100") Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:49:13 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090019 (Oort Gnus v0.19) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> I'm personally using Mule (for Latin 2), and I'm not aware of this Hrvoje> huge list of XEmacs features broken under Mule. Windows? Hrvoje> Code that is completely broken under Mule should not be introduced to Hrvoje> XEmacs, especially if the maintainers themselves say that they don't Hrvoje> understand Mule and show no evidence of willingness to fix the Hrvoje> breakage in the near future. I didn't see that lack of willingness. >> The point here is that the Xft stuff can be turned off at configure >> time, and then it won't affect Mule at all. Hrvoje> Asking people to turn Mule off so they can enjoy antialiased font Hrvoje> display is ridiculous. Huh? Right now they can't have antialiased font display period. -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 14:17:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATJH1v06546; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:17:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATJGfM06379 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:16:41 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATJGXv06317 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:16:33 -0500 Received: from avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.150.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATJGWv06306; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:16:32 -0500 Received: from hapuna.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (hapuna.informatik.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.166.172]) by avalon.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3p2/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA23534; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:16:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from neubauer@localhost) by hapuna.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (8.11.7/8.11.6) id hATJGZp31711; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:16:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hapuna.informatik.uni-freiburg.de: neubauer set sender to neubauer@informatik.uni-freiburg.de using -f To: Michael Sperber Cc: Hrvoje Niksic , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Matthias Neubauer Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:16:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Michael Sperber's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:49:13 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Michael Sperber writes: >>>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: > > Hrvoje> I'm personally using Mule (for Latin 2), and I'm not aware of this > Hrvoje> huge list of XEmacs features broken under Mule. > > Windows? > > Hrvoje> Code that is completely broken under Mule should not be introduced to > Hrvoje> XEmacs, especially if the maintainers themselves say that they don't > Hrvoje> understand Mule and show no evidence of willingness to fix the > Hrvoje> breakage in the near future. > > I didn't see that lack of willingness. I hope I never gave that impression. That's what I wrote in my last email concerning the Mule issue: >>>> Given a working Mule (e.g. a Mule that can convert between character >>>> sets and UTF 8 correctly), adding Xft support to it should be a one >>>> day project. We already have the supplementary patch from Yuri and >>>> Alkesey. >>>> >>>> It would be really cool if some of you, the XEmacs/Mule guys, could >>>> look at their Unicode conversion and tell us whether this is the right >>>> thing to do to get such an Utf8 conversion. Or otherwise tell us how >>>> to fix it. Given that, I am more than happy to integrate it in our >>>> stuff to enable Mule support right away. So all I'd like to know for now is, if it's generally possible to convert text coded in one of the different character sets to Utf8 (and if so how)? It shouldn't be that hard to answer that question? Or is it? >>> The point here is that the Xft stuff can be turned off at configure >>> time, and then it won't affect Mule at all. > > Hrvoje> Asking people to turn Mule off so they can enjoy antialiased font > Hrvoje> display is ridiculous. > > Huh? Right now they can't have antialiased font display period. -- Matthias Neubauer | Universität Freiburg, Institut für Informatik | tel +49 761 203 8060 Georges-Köhler-Allee 79, 79110 Freiburg i. Br., Germany | fax +49 761 203 8052 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 15:29:16 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATKT4v12251; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:29:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATKSkv12104 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:28:46 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATKSif12091 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:28:44 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hATKSdv12039 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:28:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 380 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 21:28:17 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.14) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 21:28:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 24815 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 21:28:17 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 21:28:17 +0100 To: Michael Sperber Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:30:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Michael Sperber's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:49:13 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Michael Sperber writes: >>>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: > > Hrvoje> I'm personally using Mule (for Latin 2), and I'm not aware > Hrvoje> of this huge list of XEmacs features broken under Mule. > > Windows? First, one item hardly constitutes a huge list. Second, it doesn't justify introducing new breakage. > Hrvoje> Asking people to turn Mule off so they can enjoy antialiased > Hrvoje> font display is ridiculous. > > Huh? Right now they can't have antialiased font display period. I'm aware of that. I don't want to have conversations like this: "I heard XEmacs now supports Xft. How do I enable it?" "Configure --with-xft." "Croatian characters no longer work!" "I forgot to mention: Xft completely breaks Mule, you have to compile without Mule to get Xft." (Not to mention that East-Asian users don't have a choice of whether to use Mule or not: for them it's a necessity.) We are either serious about supporting Mule or we are not. I am surprised that you, as a developer, would even suggest introducing a major feature that breaks it. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 15:39:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATKd1v17971; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:39:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATKc5u17493 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:38:05 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATKc3M17471 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:38:03 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hATKbwv17430 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:37:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 15243 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 21:37:57 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (213.191.128.12) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 21:37:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 13882 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 21:37:56 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 21:37:56 +0100 To: Matthias Neubauer Cc: Michael Sperber , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:40:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Matthias Neubauer's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:16:35 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Matthias Neubauer writes: >>>>> Given a working Mule (e.g. a Mule that can convert between character >>>>> sets and UTF 8 correctly), adding Xft support to it should be a one >>>>> day project. We already have the supplementary patch from Yuri and >>>>> Alkesey. >>>>> >>>>> It would be really cool if some of you, the XEmacs/Mule guys, could >>>>> look at their Unicode conversion and tell us whether this is the right >>>>> thing to do to get such an Utf8 conversion. Or otherwise tell us how >>>>> to fix it. Given that, I am more than happy to integrate it in our >>>>> stuff to enable Mule support right away. > > So all I'd like to know for now is, if it's generally possible to > convert text coded in one of the different character sets to Utf8 > (and if so how)? It shouldn't be that hard to answer that question? > Or is it? On the display level, you only have to deal with one character set, the internal encoding used by Mule. That is a variable width encoding that shares some properties with UTF-8, but is not based on Unicode. It's possible to convert this internal encoding to UTF-8, but it requires mapping tables from Mule characters to Unicode characters, and those mapping tables are huge. Such tables might exist in 21.5, but I'm not sure. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 16:03:23 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATL3Mv32425; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:03:22 -0500 Received: from yahoo.fr ([211.187.43.199]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATL29v31464; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:02:10 -0500 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b?aXQgd29ya3MgYmV0dGVyICAgIDQ1ODdz?= Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:05:56 +0000 From: "Celina Leblanc" To: xemacs-webmaint@xemacs.org, xemacs-winnt-admin@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta-request@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.001 (windows; U; NT4.0; en-us) Gecko/25250101 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: ,









    From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 16:06:08 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATL67v01714; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:06:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATL49o00510 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:04:09 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATL48B00493 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:04:08 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATL44v00453; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:04:05 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQCFt-0004GC-00; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:03:53 +0900 To: Matthias Neubauer Cc: Michael Sperber , Hrvoje Niksic , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:03:53 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Matthias Neubauer's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:16:35 +0100") Message-ID: <87ekvq99ae.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Neubauer writes: Matthias> So all I'd like to know for now is, if it's generally Matthias> possible to convert text coded in one of the different Matthias> character sets to Utf8 (and if so how)? It shouldn't be Matthias> that hard to answer that question? Or is it? Yes. See src/unicode.c. But that's the trivial part of Mule support (and even so apparently we don't know how to do it correctly in practice yet). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 16:18:17 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATLI0v09630; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:18:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATLH8l09153 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:17:08 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATLH7a09143 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:17:07 -0500 Received: from mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx4.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.29]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATLH5v09125; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:17:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D71F10BE; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:17:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx4 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20600-04; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:17:03 +0100 (NFT) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.50]) by mx4.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1BC10BC; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:17:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hATLH3Sh076566; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:17:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sperber@sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id hATLH35F076565; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:17:03 +0100 (CET) To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Michael Sperber In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:30:48 +0100") Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:17:01 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090019 (Oort Gnus v0.19) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> I'm aware of that. I don't want to have conversations like this: "I Hrvoje> heard XEmacs now supports Xft. How do I enable it?" "Configure Hrvoje> --with-xft." "Croatian characters no longer work!" "I forgot to Hrvoje> mention: Xft completely breaks Mule, you have to compile without Mule Hrvoje> to get Xft." (Not to mention that East-Asian users don't have a Hrvoje> choice of whether to use Mule or not: for them it's a necessity.) Oh, come on, Hrvoje. This is easily handled by informative messages from configure. Nobody's forcing you to have conversations like this. Hrvoje> We are either serious about supporting Mule or we are not. I am Hrvoje> surprised that you, as a developer, would even suggest introducing a Hrvoje> major feature that breaks it. We're going round in circles here: Lots of patches (especially big ones) break *something*. Except in this case we know about it, because Eric and Matthias were gracious enough to be upfront about it. They also offered (despite your claim to the contrary) on fixing the breakage. -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 18:26:21 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATNQ4v29050; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:26:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATNPnu28912 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:25:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATNPb528795 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:25:37 -0500 Received: from pc09.hist.utoronto.ca (pc09.hist.utoronto.ca [128.100.34.9]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATNPav28791 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:25:36 -0500 Received: from matt by pc09.hist.utoronto.ca with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQETg-0005sK-00 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:26:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:26:16 -0500 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: accented characters in xterm Message-ID: <20031129232616.GB22267@utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Matt Price X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hey folks, once agian, Im not ure this qualifies as a bug, but I can't figure out how to fix it on my own. running xemacs21.4.14 on debian-sid(unstable) After a certain amount of fiddling with locales and keymaps, I've managed to get accented characters to work right in almost everything. I can type, for instance, u-umlaut or a-accent-grave atthe bash prompt, in mozilla, and in openoffice without a problem. In xemacs, these characters display properly all the time. At the console and in its own X window (that is, frame), I can also type accented characters without any difficulty. However, I mostly run xemacs with the -nw switch -- for writing emails and also when taking notes on my underpowered laptop. when run within a terminal, xemacs does *not* recognize accented characters when I type them in (though it displays them just fine). Instead, for instance, it interprets 'u-umlaut' as'M-I,' which is bound to 'shell-command-on-region'. iso-accents-mode is a partial fix for this problem, but it doesn't always work and anyway, it's not nearly as convenient as a single-keystroke solution. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks as ususal, matt From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 18:49:16 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hATNn1v09022; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:49:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATNmsl08958 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:48:54 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATNmip08871 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:48:44 -0500 Received: from gizmo06ps.bigpond.com (gizmo06ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.16]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hATNmgv08863 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:48:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 1204 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 22:42:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam04.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.78) by gizmo06ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 22:42:07 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by psmam04.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 98/1198870) with SMTP id 1198870; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:48:39 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hATNmaaH012229; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:48:36 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [C] packages: (require 'overlay) based on (featurep 'xemacs) in goto-addr.el Keywords: apa,fsf-compat,xemacs,featurep References: From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Reviewer-Action: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs Beta Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:48:31 +1000 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:31:07 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: APA> Is it really necessary to check for (featurep 'xemacs) in the APA> FSF-COMPAT package :-) It is when there's stuff in there that is supposed to run on both XEmacs _and_ GNU/Emacs (goto-addr.el). To my mind, goto-addr.el shouldn't be in fsf-compat. APA> Suggestions and improvements welcome! 1) Move the stuff in fsf-compat that isn't purely a compatibility layer to other packages. 2) Fix any package that depends on fsf-compat. 3) Deprecate fsf-compat. APA> -(unless (fboundp 'overlays-in) APA> +(if (featurep 'xemacs) APA> (require 'overlay)) Just a little nit pick, and there's no need to take it too seriously, but because that `if' only does something when true and nothing when false, it would have been better to write it as a `when'... (when (featurep 'xemacs) (require 'overlay)) -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/JMFMACgkQHSfbS6lLMAOabwCgjkKSvk678tkr9ajdyQrlYj/Q /2sAnAsQCakzwkDqfTW99LVVVIjlRLpE =XDTk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 19:00:20 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU002v14274; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:00:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATNxVt13973 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:59:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hATNxUS13957 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:59:30 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hATNxTv13940 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:59:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 7876 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 00:59:23 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.11) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 00:59:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 17946 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 00:59:22 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 00:59:22 +0100 To: Matt Price Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: accented characters in xterm References: <20031129232616.GB22267@utoronto.ca> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:01:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031129232616.GB22267@utoronto.ca> (Matt Price's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:26:16 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Matt Price writes: > In xemacs, these characters display properly all the time. At the > console and in its own X window (that is, frame), I can also type > accented characters without any difficulty. However, I mostly run > xemacs with the -nw switch -- for writing emails and also when taking > notes on my underpowered laptop. when run within a terminal, xemacs > does *not* recognize accented characters when I type them in (though > it displays them just fine). [...] > Is there a way to fix this? (set-input-mode nil nil 'please-leave-8-bit-chars-alone-thankyouverymuch) Obvious, isn't it? :-) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 19:05:20 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU050v17526; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:05:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU04ER17117 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:04:14 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU04Dh17099 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:04:13 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAU04Cv17090 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:04:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 14147 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 01:04:11 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (213.191.128.12) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 01:04:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 7294 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 01:04:10 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 01:04:10 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [C] packages: (require 'overlay) based on (featurep 'xemacs) in goto-addr.el References: From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:06:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:48:31 +1000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > 1) Move the stuff in fsf-compat that isn't purely a compatibility > layer to other packages. > > 2) Fix any package that depends on fsf-compat. > > 3) Deprecate fsf-compat. Agreed 100%. fsf-compat started out as a compatibility layer for broken FSF code that our *users* want to run. It was never meant to be a legitimate API for our own use. (It doesn't mean that all FSF's APIs are forbidden in XEmacs; it is perfectly fine to adopt their design into XEmacs. But the compatibility layer should remain exactly that.) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 21:11:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU2A2v11317; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:10:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU29pT11215 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:09:51 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU29no11199 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:09:49 -0500 Received: from pc09.hist.utoronto.ca (pc09.hist.utoronto.ca [128.100.34.9]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU29nv11193 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:09:49 -0500 Received: from matt by pc09.hist.utoronto.ca with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQH2a-0006Lw-00 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:10:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:10:28 -0500 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: SUCCESS -- accented characters! Message-ID: <20031130021028.GA24151@utoronto.ca> Mail-Followup-To: matt.price@utoronto.ca, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org References: <20031129232616.GB22267@utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Matt Price X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 01:01:55AM +0100, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Matt Price writes: > > > In xemacs, these characters display properly all the time. At the > > console and in its own X window (that is, frame), I can also type > > accented characters without any difficulty. However, I mostly run > > xemacs with the -nw switch -- for writing emails and also when taking > > notes on my underpowered laptop. when run within a terminal, xemacs > > does *not* recognize accented characters when I type them in (though > > it displays them just fine). > [...] > > Is there a way to fix this? > > (set-input-mode nil nil 'please-leave-8-bit-chars-alone-thankyouverymuch) > > Obvious, isn't it? :-) Thank you thank you!! can't tell you how much this improves my life! matt From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 21:19:17 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU2J1v15314; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:19:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2IqV15247 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:18:52 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2Ip315233 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:18:51 -0500 Received: from pc09.hist.utoronto.ca (pc09.hist.utoronto.ca [128.100.34.9]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU2Ipv15229 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:18:51 -0500 Received: from matt by pc09.hist.utoronto.ca with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQHBM-0006Mt-00 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:19:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:19:32 -0500 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: more than 16 colors in xterm? Message-ID: <20031130021932.GB24151@utoronto.ca> Mail-Followup-To: matt.price@utoronto.ca, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Matt Price X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , having had my last problem solved for me instnataneously (thanks!), I can't resist trying this one out: I work mostly within the xterm (xemacs -nw...), and I've customized all my fontlock colors to work in the terminal. Everything's fine, but I still do wish I could get more than the 16 standard xterm colors when in xterm. The manual seems to suggest that I can do this somehow, but I haven't had any luck. Is there an easy way? Thanks, Matt From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 21:31:13 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU2V2v20451; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:31:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2UrH20354 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:30:53 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2UVo20036 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:30:31 -0500 Received: from gizmo08ps.bigpond.com (gizmo08ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAU2UUv20008 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:30:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 14514 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 02:28:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam11.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.100) by gizmo08ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 02:28:45 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by psmam11.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 225/1230676) with SMTP id 1230676; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:30:13 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAU2U8dT016528; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:30:08 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Speed kills -- 21.5 users will live a very long life. Keywords: sjt,xemacs,net,bug,slow,fpu References: <877k1jc25u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:30:05 +1000 In-Reply-To: <877k1jc25u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:57:17 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: SJT> First, did you reboot, then run cold and hot timings? No. I suppose a fairer test would have been: xemacs -kill && time xemacs -kill SJT> Second, if not, were there other instances running? No. SJT> Third, what is your platform? x86 GNU/Linux ,----[ uname -r ] | 2.6.0-test11-sy `---- ,----[ /proc/cpuinfo ] | processor : 0 | vendor_id : AuthenticAMD | cpu family : 5 | model : 8 | model name : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor | stepping : 12 | cpu MHz : 411.525 | cache size : 64 KB | fdiv_bug : no | hlt_bug : no | f00f_bug : no | coma_bug : no | fpu : yes | fpu_exception : yes | cpuid level : 1 | wp : yes | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 pge mmx syscall 3dnow k6_mtrr | bogomips : 811.00 `---- ,----[ from /proc/meminfo ] | MemTotal: 78704 kB `---- SJT> Fourth, are you connected to the net (those times look to me SJT> like you're blocking on a net look up Yes, I have a 24/7 ADSL connection. SJT> you wouldn't happen to have gnus stuff in your init.el)? Yes, but that's not where the biggest slow down is. I'm getting murdered in fonts and faces etc. SJT> It really would help if you could give more information about SJT> what's going on in your initialization here. Surely something SJT> is horribly slow for you in 21.5, but unless you tell me I SJT> won't know.... You can get to all my initialisation files, including Gnus, here: The biggest slow down that I can see is in: -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/JVjAACgkQHSfbS6lLMAM5uACeOx5VYtUyYqN/oHPi360+G8gP a84AnRYmPNzC9rcEWIdOCzw0ghdij562 =g2lS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 21:35:12 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU2Z1v22125; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:35:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2Xun21690 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:33:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2XsM21655 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:33:54 -0500 Received: from gizmo09bw.bigpond.com (gizmo09bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAU2Xrv21648 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:33:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 6083 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 01:31:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bwmam12.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.103) by gizmo09bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 01:31:39 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by bwmam12.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 189/847712) with SMTP id 847712; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:33:47 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAU2Xiah016677; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:33:44 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: "weak test failures ... bitch at stephen" Keywords: eicq References: <87u14nafxm.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ad6f9yae.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:33:41 +1000 In-Reply-To: <87ad6f9yae.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:03:53 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>>>"SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> You're welcome. Not building 21.5 too often these days huh? SY> :-P SJT> I'm running _with_ my patch Explains why you're not seeing the test failures. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/JVwgACgkQHSfbS6lLMAP41QCgtVMa0XnhRF5Ijw3cbhUfy9wb ss8AnjyDV1ssLwwUt3e3Q71Qp9fS6roS =NWeO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 21:39:03 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU2cqv23614; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:38:52 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2b3B22935 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:37:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2b2522926 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:37:02 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAU2b1v22918 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:37:01 -0500 Received: (qmail 28396 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 03:36:59 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.14) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 03:36:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 3875 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 03:36:59 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 03:36:59 +0100 To: matt.price@utoronto.ca Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: more than 16 colors in xterm? References: <20031130021932.GB24151@utoronto.ca> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:39:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20031130021932.GB24151@utoronto.ca> (Matt Price's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:19:32 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Matt Price writes: > I work mostly within the xterm (xemacs -nw...), and I've customized > all my fontlock colors to work in the terminal. Everything's fine, > but I still do wish I could get more than the 16 standard xterm > colors when in xterm. The manual seems to suggest that I can do > this somehow, but I haven't had any luck. Which manual are you referring to? The xterm manual or the XEmacs manual? There might be a sequence that tells color xterm to use an arbitrary color specified with RGB, but I don't think XEmacs uses it. It might not be too hard to make it use it, though... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 21:43:15 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU2h4v25548; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:43:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2g5M25111 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:42:05 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2g0K25030 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:42:00 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAU2fxv25015 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:41:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 5923 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 03:41:58 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.14) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 03:41:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 6102 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 03:41:58 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 03:41:58 +0100 To: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Speed kills -- 21.5 users will live a very long life. References: <877k1jc25u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:44:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:30:05 +1000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: > > SJT> First, did you reboot, then run cold and hot timings? > > No. I suppose a fairer test would have been: > > xemacs -kill && time xemacs -kill When benchmarking, I tend to use `xemacs -batch -f kill-emacs'. The `-batch' is to avoid measuring the time it takes to map an X window. However, you might *want* to take that into account, so `-batch' might not be for you. (But even so, a -batch run will show you whether the difference comes from the X part or not.) > Maybe XEmacs is waiting for the X server a lot? The `:bold t' thing sounds like a bunch of calls to `font.el', which might not be optimized for speed. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 21:59:16 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU2x1v32717; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:59:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2wOb32459 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:58:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU2wFu32395 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:58:15 -0500 Received: from gizmo10bw.bigpond.com (gizmo10bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAU2wEv32387 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:58:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 11186 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 02:58:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bwmam12.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.103) by gizmo10bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 02:58:46 -0000 Received: from cpe-138-130-240-50.qld.bigpond.net.au ([138.130.240.50]) by bwmam12.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2 189/853789) with SMTP id 853789; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:58:11 +1000 Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAU2w7t9017096; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:58:07 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs beta Cc: Jamie Zawinski Subject: Re: how do I turn off file locking? Keywords: name References: <3FC85117.6CF0E8AD@jwz.org> <3FC85DFB.34534B43@jwz.org> From: Steve Youngs X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Organization: The XEmacs Project X-URL: X-Request-PGP: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1659 2093 19D5 C06E D320 3A20 1D27 DB4B A94B 3003 X-Attribution: SY Mail-Followup-To: XEmacs beta , Jamie Zawinski Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:58:04 +1000 In-Reply-To: <3FC85DFB.34534B43@jwz.org> (Jamie Zawinski's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:51:07 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= |--==> "JZ" == Jamie Zawinski writes: JZ> Steve Youngs wrote: >> >>Does `(setq inhibit-clash-detection t)' give you what you need? JZ> Yes, thanks. You're welcome. JZ> Never in a million years would I have found that, since it does JZ> not have "lock" in its name, and the messages do not use the JZ> word "clash". The only reason I found it was because I can remember configuring with '--with-clash-detection'. Someone not building their own XEmacs (Redhat people who use RPMs?) would have a hell of a time tracking this down. I think Jamie makes a very valid point here, that variable name blows goats. Yes, the name does correctly describe what it does, but you'd only find it if you were familiar with XEmacs' configuration options. I propose a name change (or at least a defvaralias) to `inhibit-file-locking'. And perhaps the warning message could be prepended with "Clash detected:". -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - The only _______ you'll ever need. | | Fill in the blank, yes, it's THAT good! | |---------------------------------| --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Eicq - The XEmacs ICQ Client iEYEABECAAYFAj/JXL4ACgkQHSfbS6lLMANVcACgm2H5BBXv6GAEYUc/NqUAEzjA SBoAoL2lPEnSzgcyI6aEGgZYujqH53rn =Pi98 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 29 23:40:33 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAU4e3v05171; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:40:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU4dE804880 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:39:14 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAU4d7h04724 for turnbull@tux.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:39:07 -0500 Received: from mxout.iskon.hr (mxout.iskon.hr [213.191.128.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with SMTP id hAU4d6v04715 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:39:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 13671 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 05:39:04 +0100 Received: from mx.iskon.hr (qmailr@213.191.128.11) by mxout.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 05:39:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 19255 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 05:39:03 +0100 X-Remote-IP: 213.191.139.219 Received: from hniksic.iskon.hr (213.191.139.219) by mx.iskon.hr with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 05:39:03 +0100 To: XEmacs beta Cc: Jamie Zawinski Subject: Re: how do I turn off file locking? References: <3FC85117.6CF0E8AD@jwz.org> <3FC85DFB.34534B43@jwz.org> From: Hrvoje Niksic Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 05:41:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:58:04 +1000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > I think Jamie makes a very valid point here, that variable name > blows goats. I'm not even convinced that that variable is supposed to be set by the user. The inhibit-* pattern seems to be reserved for variables that are bound, not set -- think `inhibit-quit'. But then again, the docstring says nothing of the sort, so maybe that's not the case here. According to FSFmacs docs, the way to customize locking is to override `ask-user-about-lock'. The docstring of that function confirms that, so another way to get rid of the prompt is this: (defun ask-user-about-lock (&rest who-cares) ;; Just grab the lock. t) XEmacs will still create locks, but the prompt will go away. > Yes, the name does correctly describe what it does, but you'd only > find it if you were familiar with XEmacs' configuration options. For what it's worth, "clash detection" is mentioned in the manual several times, but I cheated because I knew what to look for. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 30 15:33:39 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAUKX6v08560; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:33:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKW3q08200 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:32:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKW2Z08191 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:32:02 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAUKW1v08187 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:32:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKVnh08118 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:31:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKVaZ08058 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:31:36 -0500 Received: from cs.sfu.ca (cs.sfu.ca [142.58.111.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAUKVZv08052 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:31:35 -0500 Received: from daffodil.css.sfu.ca (daemon@daffodil [199.60.1.80]) by cs.sfu.ca (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUKVVxg024736 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lcheu@localhost) by daffodil.css.sfu.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUKVVk26071 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:31:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:31:31 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Cheu To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Xemacs Crash when I press C-x-c Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,REMOVE_REMOVAL_NEAR autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I got a crash when I quit the xemacs by press C-x-c. The following is the output after the crash. I include the installation description and gdb backtrace as well. Good luck. ========================================================= Warning: XmFontListCreate() is an obsolete function! Warning: XtRemoveGrab asked to remove a widget not on the list Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. Your version of XEmacs was distributed with a PROBLEMS file that may describe your crash, and with luck a workaround. Please check it first, but do report the crash anyway. Please report this bug by invoking M-x report-emacs-bug, or by selecting `Send Bug Report' from the Help menu. If necessary, send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the XEmacs configuration from M-x describe-installation, or equivalently the file Installation in the top of the build tree. *Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are unlikely to be able to analyze the problem. Locate the core file produced as a result of this crash (often called `core' or `core.', and located in the directory in which you started XEmacs or your home directory), and type gdb /usr/bin/xemacs core then type `where' at the debugger prompt. No GDB on your system? You may have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. (Ask your system administrator if you need help.) If no core file was produced, enable them (often with `ulimit -c unlimited' in case of future recurrance of the crash. Lisp backtrace follows: kill-emacs() # bind (arg) save-buffers-kill-emacs(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(save-buffers-kill-emacs) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Segmentation fault ======================== Installation description uname -a: Linux leo 2.6.0-test9-mm5 #1 Wed Nov 26 23:21:28 PST 2003 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux ./configure '--with-widgets=motif' '--with-dialogs=motif' '--with-scrollbars=motif' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-gif=no' '--with-tiff' '--with-png' '--with-jpeg' '--without-xface' '--with-gpm' '--with-postgresql' '--without-ldap' '--with-mule' '--with-xim=motif' '--without-canna' '--without-wnn' '--with-sound=native' '--with-database=gnudbm' '--prefix=/usr' '--with-pop' '--with-ncurses' '--with-msw=no' '--mail-locking=flock' '--with-site-lisp=yes' '--with-site-modules=yes' XEmacs 21.4.12 "Portable Code" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /var/tmp/portage/xemacs-21.4.12/work/xemacs-21.4.12 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O3 -march=pentium3 -fprefetch-loop-arrays -funroll-loops -pipe Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Motif scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using Motif to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "flock" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. ========================== gdb /usr/bin/xemacs core GNU gdb 5.3 Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu"...(no debugging symbols found)... Core was generated by `xemacs'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpng.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libz.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libncurses.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libncurses.so.5 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpq.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpq.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libutil.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libutil.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libdl.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libresolv.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libresolv.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnsl.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnsl.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/ld-linux.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXau.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXau.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcDef.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcDef.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_files.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_files.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_compat.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_compat.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXcursor.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXcursor.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xomGeneric.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xomGeneric.so.2 #0 0x404da2e1 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) where #0 0x404da2e1 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x080bc4ab in fatal_error_signal () #2 #3 0x4009f8a4 in YowIter () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 #4 0x4009e0eb in _LTHashTableForEachItem () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 #5 0x4009f6da in _LtImageCacheScreenDestroy () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 #6 0x400ebfe3 in destroy () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 #7 0x402c501f in Phase2Destroy () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #8 0x402c4da4 in Recursive () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #9 0x402c48cb in XtPhase2Destroy () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #10 0x402c4a8c in _XtDoPhase2Destroy () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #11 0x402c4c62 in XtDestroyWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #12 0x402c6559 in CloseDisplay () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #13 0x402c5d69 in XtCloseDisplay () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #14 0x081e3818 in reinit_vars_of_device_x () #15 0x080abf9a in delete_device_internal () #16 0x080a358d in delete_console_internal () #17 0x080bfe36 in Fkill_emacs () #18 0x080c2eff in Ffuncall () #19 0x08091dcd in funcall_compiled_function () #20 0x08091958 in funcall_compiled_function () #21 0x080c2deb in Ffuncall () #22 0x08095ace in Fcall_interactively () #23 0x080c1c98 in Fcommand_execute () #24 0x0810e020 in complex_vars_of_event_stream () #25 0x0810a2de in Fdispatch_event () #26 0x080a14b1 in Fcommand_loop_1 () #27 0x080c0b43 in condition_case_1 () #28 0x080a19bc in syms_of_cmdloop () #29 0x080c09fc in internal_catch () #30 0x080a1188 in initial_command_loop () #31 0x080bd53a in xemacs_21_4_12_i686_pc_linux () #32 0x080be73e in main () #33 0x404c690c in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 -.-. .... . -. -.--.- .-.. . --- -.--.- .... .- --- Why use Windows, since there is a door? Hao (Leo) Chen Computing Science Dept. Communication Network Laboratory Simon Fraser University http://haochen.net From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 30 15:44:15 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAUKi1v11626; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:44:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKh2E11369 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:43:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKh1I11362 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:43:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAUKh1v11357 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:43:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKgdI11253 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:42:39 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKga411227 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:42:36 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAUKgZv11205; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:42:35 -0500 Received: from sfwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1AQYOl-0000x3-00; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:42:31 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (E4q-XGZ1ZerfZXuybb+7CJDwyRZ4zk3xrNmLUzWWU5GQ9VETNs5EkG@[80.128.62.241]) by afwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1AQYOX-0mdSJk0; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:42:17 +0100 To: Leo Cheu Cc: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs Crash when I press C-x-c X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project From: Adrian Aichner Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:42:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Leo Cheu's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:31:31 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Seen: false X-ID: E4q-XGZ1ZerfZXuybb+7CJDwyRZ4zk3xrNmLUzWWU5GQ9VETNs5EkG Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Leo" == Leo Cheu writes: Leo> Hi, Leo> I got a crash when I quit the xemacs by press C-x-c. The Leo> following is the output after the crash. I include the Leo> installation description and gdb backtrace as well. Hi Leo, is this the command you were using at the time: C-x C-c ((lambda nil (interactive) (beep) (message "Use the \"File/Exit XEmacs\" menu item to exit XEmacs"))) Please advise, Adrian Leo> Good luck. <272 lines deleted by Adrian Aichner> -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 30 16:02:22 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAUL2Av18200; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:02:10 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUL12R17874 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:01:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUL11i17864 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:01:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAUL11v17860 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:01:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKw8m16289 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:58:08 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hAUKvtK16230 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:57:55 -0500 Received: from cs.sfu.ca (cs.sfu.ca [142.58.111.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hAUKvsv16224; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:57:54 -0500 Received: from daffodil.css.sfu.ca (daemon@daffodil [199.60.1.80]) by cs.sfu.ca (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUKvoxg026666; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lcheu@localhost) by daffodil.css.sfu.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUKvoh26148; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:57:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:57:50 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Cheu To: Adrian Aichner cc: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs Crash when I press C-x-c In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, Adrian, yes, I use C-x C-c. I was just trying to quit xemacs after editing my files. I tried serveral times, either using menu, or keyboard command, I got the same error. Thanks, -.-. .... . -. -.--.- .-.. . --- -.--.- .... .- --- Why use Windows, since there is a door? Hao (Leo) Chen Computing Science Dept. Communication Network Laboratory Simon Fraser University http://haochen.net On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Adrian Aichner wrote: > >>>>> "Leo" == Leo Cheu writes: > > Leo> Hi, > > Leo> I got a crash when I quit the xemacs by press C-x-c. The > Leo> following is the output after the crash. I include the > Leo> installation description and gdb backtrace as well. > > Hi Leo, is this the command you were using at the time: > > C-x C-c ((lambda nil (interactive) (beep) (message "Use the \"File/Exit XEmacs\" menu item to exit XEmacs"))) > > Please advise, > > Adrian > > Leo> Good luck. > <272 lines deleted by Adrian Aichner> > > -- > Adrian Aichner > mailto:adrian@xemacs.org > http://www.xemacs.org/ > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 30 23:04:19 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hB1439v16472; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:03:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hB1422k16090 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:02:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hB1420t16068 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:02:00 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hB141sv16045; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:01:55 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQfFc-0000NQ-00; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:01:32 +0900 To: Michael Sperber Cc: Hrvoje Niksic , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Xft patch reloaded, #3 References: <87r80bfufx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874qx3e6hy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:01:32 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Michael Sperber's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:17:01 +0100") Message-ID: <87y8tx6vab.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "ms" == Michael Sperber writes: >>>>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> I'm personally using Mule (for Latin 2), and I'm not aware Hrvoje> of this huge list of XEmacs features broken under Mule. ms> Windows? That's both historically false and practically an irrelevant analogy. Historically, Mule did not break Windows. Windows broke Mule. Practically, Ben was one of the most important proponents of Windows and also the primary Mule developer; we could be pretty sure he would fix it, and he has done so. ms> They also offered (despite your claim to the contrary) on ms> fixing the breakage. They _did not_ make that offer. They offered to fix a list of things to get the patch in. But they want other people to find the problems, make the current list smaller, specify the issues, do the design, and suggest implementations for them. They obviously expect others to maintain any Mule-related aspects of the patch once the initial fixing is done. ***** As you say, we have a big problem here. Programmers are always biased in favor of high-quality features as defined by "works for me" rather than high-quality applications that work for everybody. This is the main reason why XEmacs 21.5 today is substantially farther from release than 21.2 was three years ago. It has _not_ benefitted at all from Martin's anal-retentive attention to bug-fixing (or yours to stat(2)-removal), it is noticably bigger and slower than 21.4 (disastrously so for Steve Y) but we don't know why, it is full of half-baked features---eg, no substantial improvements in the widgets, which Vin just disabled by default in 21.4!---most of which are bitrotting, and we're already heading further in that direction. Doesn't this bother you at all? Why are you fighting a request for some badly needed clean-up as the price of getting approval for a feature that will aggravate the need for the requested clean-up? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 30 23:20:02 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hB14K1v23340; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:20:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hB14Ju823297 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hB14Jgc23214 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:42 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hB14Jdv23194; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:19:39 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQfX8-0000Ta-00; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:19:38 +0900 To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: XEmacs beta Subject: Re: Speed kills -- 21.5 users will live a very long life. References: <877k1jc25u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:19:37 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Hrvoje Niksic's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:44:32 +0100") Message-ID: <87u14l6ug6.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> Steve Youngs writes: >> Hrvoje> Maybe XEmacs is waiting for the X server a lot? The Hrvoje> `:bold t' thing sounds like a bunch of calls to `font.el', Hrvoje> which might not be optimized for speed. I don't think this matters. font.el manipulates Lisp structures, and AFAIK does not itself call X APIs. If there is optimization to be done, it should be done at a lower level. And the `:bold t' thing stinks of custom, which _has_ been partially synched to recent GNU by somebody who wasn't entirely sure of what he's doing (ie, blame me not custom, but custom code may be one place to look). What might kill you is huge numbers of calls to XLoadQueryFont and friends. The X API is designed so that those should be called lazily by the app. They're all roundtrip requests. (I'm pretty sure that the output of XListFonts is cached at C-level, but maybe something goes wrong with that.) More likely the problems are in cus-face.el or faces.el (make-face-bold and friends). But even so ... I don't think it's possible to batch calls to the font APIs effectively, so unless XEmacs is making multiple queries for non-existent fonts or something? And of course this doesn't explain why 21.5 would be slower than 21.4; I don't think the C-level X font handling has changed since 21.4. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 30 23:25:00 2003 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hB14P0v24767; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:25:00 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hB14O2C24469 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:24:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hB14O1M24460 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:24:01 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hB14O1v24456 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:24:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hB14NqM24417 for xemacs-crashes-mailman@xemacs.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:23:52 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id hB14Np024402 for turnbull@tux.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:23:51 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id hB14Nov24397 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:23:50 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQfay-0000Tj-00; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:23:36 +0900 To: Leo Cheu Cc: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs Crash when I press C-x-c References: Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:23:36 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Leo Cheu's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:31:31 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87ptf96u9j.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Old-X-XEmacs-List: crashes X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Leo" == Leo Cheu writes: Leo> I got a crash when I quit the xemacs by press C-x-c. Leo> Using Motif scrollbars. Leo> Using Motif dialog boxes. Leo> Using Motif native widgets. Leo> - Using Motif to provide XIM support. Leo> #4 0x4009e0eb in _LTHashTableForEachItem () from Known bug in Lesstif. Preferred solution is to use Athena widgets, not Motif. See ./configure --usage. Don't forget to use --with-xim=xlib (or --with-xim=no is safe if you don't know or use XIM). See PROBLEMS for further information, and a patch for Lesstif IIRC. Search on LTHashTableForEachItem. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.