From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 01:42:46 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20129; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 01:42:12 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20095 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 01:41:34 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zBWh-0000Tj-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:40:31 +0900 To: mfabian@suse.de Cc: xemacs-beta Mailing List Subject: Re: Crash with 21.4 and 21.5 on SuSE Linux 7.3 References: <3BD9479D.2D194E25@de.ibm.com> <87lmhx1z24.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 01 Nov 2001 15:40:31 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87elnjngdc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Fabian writes: Mike> work, i.e. it seems that the portable dumper really doesn't Mike> care about comreloc. As far as I can see, XEmacs works fine Mike> with the portable dumper. Does the portable dumper have any Mike> disadvantages? 1. It currently requires "cruft" in the bin directory, namely the dump file itself. Many people dislike this, but finding a "safe" place to put it in the executable requires unexec-like knowledge of executable structure. 2. unexec is simply the image of memory as loaded by the system. Therefore it neither knows nor cares about Lisp data structures. The portable dumper does need such knowledge, and we haven't yet managed to automate that yet. While I do not expect more bugs from this, we have seen a few bugs that result from parts of XEmacs not being properly pdump-ized, and I can't exclude the possibility. Mike> Is it recommended to build binary packages of XEmacs with Mike> the portable dumper? Not if unexec has a history of working solidly. Experience with the portable dumper is much shorter and includes recent bugs. Not to mention that the main pdump developers (Olivier and Martin) are currently busy with work and play respectively. I see no reason for people who build their own frequently not to use the pdumper; risks are low. But for people who use a binary package and hope to leave it in place for a year or so, I don't think it's worth suing pdump just to satisfy "political correctness." -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 01:58:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20895; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 01:58:05 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20877 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 01:57:41 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zBmO-0000Ts-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:56:44 +0900 To: Les Schaffer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gtk problems not disappearing by themselves References: <15326.52573.318413.293631@gargle.gargle.HOWL> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 01 Nov 2001 15:56:44 +0900 In-Reply-To: <15326.52573.318413.293631@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <87ady7nfmb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Les" == Les Schaffer writes: Les> i just now built 21.4.5 and have the same exact problems. is Les> there an interest in fixing the gtk bugs or not? I very interested in having them fixed, but not at the expense of the stability of the 21.4 line. I personally don't have the time, nor the expertise, to work on them, and that also implies that it would take far too much time to judge whether they're "safe" or not. This implies draconian restrictions on the patches I can accept for 21.4. The GTK stuff is explicitly listed as "experimental". What it means is that in practice what gets fixed is what the GTK groks (mostly Bill Perry) feel like working on, and that mostly in the 21.5 line. You might try building 21.5.3 and seeing if that works any better. If you really want the GTK stuff to improve soon (it _is_ on _my_ radar, but it's tagged "Cessna going the other way", and I've got plenty of incoming ICBMs to pay attention to), I would suggest (1) Politely contacting Bill Perry and finding out what his plans are. (2) Searching the xemacs-beta and xemacs-buildreports mailing lists for people who post about and/or build the GTK port, and contacting them to see if you can get a circle of active developers and testers started to support Bill. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 02:18:21 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA21806; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:18:04 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA21757 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:17:19 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zC5M-0000W5-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:16:20 +0900 To: Nevin Kapur Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: cvs down References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 01 Nov 2001 16:16:19 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87zo67m058.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: Nevin> One hitch. I am tracking the release-21-4 tag. When Nevin> 21.4.5 came out, I used xemacs-21.4.4-21.4.5.patch.gz to Nevin> patch my source tree. Now, when I did a cvs up, all the Nevin> files have an M flag, for example: Nevin> cvs server: Updating etc Nevin> M etc/OXYMORONS Nevin> Is that to be expected? (I realize this is probably not an Nevin> XEmacs question.) Yes. You changed the source files without changing the CVS metadata. The patchkit intentionally omits the CVS directories. CVS will notice this. After the update, however, a cvs diff should show only true local modifications. Also during the update you should get a lot of "XXX already contains YYYY changes" messages. If you show a lot of changes that you didn't make in the cvs diff, please let me know. That should not happen, and may mean I've messed up the patch kit. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 02:30:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA22355; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:30:04 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA22321 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:29:50 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zCCc-0000WE-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:23:50 +0900 To: Thomas Gerds Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: X error References: From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 01 Nov 2001 16:23:50 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87u1wflzsp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Gerds writes: Thomas> hi, the xemacs-21.4.? generation produces the error Thomas> message below (in the xterm-window) from where we called Thomas> xemacs. at the same time all xemacs-frames turn white and Thomas> most often nothing helps but kill -9 ... We've seen something like this before, it has not yet been identified. I think it's mostly been on exit, though. What context, are you usually doing a particular kind of thing or does it seem totally random? Please send your Installation file, and any details about platform that might be significant (eg, OpenMotif vs. platform Motif) that are not evident from Installation. If you can get XEmacs running at all, and you have a recent version of the net-utils package, M-x report-xemacs-bug RET is the recommended way to submit bug reports, as it will give all that data automatically, as well as a lot of information about context (such as your packages and recent keystrokes). Thomas> xemacs-21.4.5: X Error of failed request: BadIDChoice (invalid resource ID chosen for this connection) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 05:24:34 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA08031; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:22:19 -0500 Received: from fermat.mts.jhu.edu (fermat.mts.jhu.edu [128.220.17.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA07845 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:21:56 -0500 Received: (from nevin@localhost) by fermat.mts.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fA1ALqv07638; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:21:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: fermat.mts.jhu.edu: nevin set sender to nevin@jhu.edu using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: cvs down References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4roflo9z.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> X-Face: H~?ZI_L2!bGIrH^iC0e8t85[S`lwpP_/-sOvkGnN[\)[S";}xM3[Ib!ljz-80yK9SIf9sz6/DcY?yKUq1=-&XdrLjA^wK1 From: Nevin Kapur In-Reply-To: <4roflo9z.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> (Adrian Aichner's message of "Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:20:24 +0100") Message-ID: Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 05:21:52 -0500 Lines: 78 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: >>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: > > Nevin> Adrian Aichner writes: > >>>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: > > Nevin> [...] > > Nevin> It would be nice if we could get information on how to make the > Nevin> transition from our old CVS checkouts. I've changed instances of > >> > >> Good suggestion. It is already on my plate, but there are only 24h in > >> a day :-) > > Nevin> Of course! I just wanted to get the suggestion out there. > > Nevin> xemacs@cvs.xemacs.org to cvs@sunsite.dk in my CVS/Root. I think > >> > >> Use :pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs > >> > Nevin> CVS/Repository also needs to be changed. In the old setup it > Nevin> contained > >> > Nevin> XEmacs/xemacs > >> > Nevin> What should the contents of this file be for the new repository? > >> > >> Untested: try just > >> xemacs > > Nevin> Yep. That works. For the record, I did: > > Nevin> find . -name CVS/Root -exec perl -pi -e 's/xemacs\@cvs\.xemacs\.org:\/usr\/CVSroot/cvs\@sunsite.dk:\/pack\/anoncvs''{}' ';' > > Thanks, we always appreciate contribution which save other people time. > > I'll try to use the above. > > I've used the same to convert my local working directory of the > xemacsweb module, which is now available via :pserver: only from > /pack/anoncvs, not via /pack/xemacscvs, which is restricted to ssh > access now. > > Nevin> and > > Nevin> find . -name CVS/Repository -exec perl -pi -e 's/XEmacs\/xemacs/xemacs/' '{}' ';' > > Yep, looks good. > > Nevin> One hitch. I am tracking the release-21-4 tag. When 21.4.5 came out, > Nevin> I used xemacs-21.4.4-21.4.5.patch.gz to patch my source tree. Now, > Nevin> when I did a cvs up, all the files have an M flag, for example: > > Nevin> cvs server: Updating etc > Nevin> M etc/OXYMORONS > > Nevin> Is that to be expected? (I realize this is probably not an > Nevin> XEmacs question.) > > It's definitely a question related to XEmacs development which > xemacs-beta is for. > > Please send us output of > > cvs status etc/OXYMORONS > > Perhaps you have a sticky tag or something like that? > > Best regards, > > Adrian > > Nevin> -- > Nevin> Nevin -- Nevin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 05:29:35 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA09208; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:28:04 -0500 Received: from fermat.mts.jhu.edu (fermat.mts.jhu.edu [128.220.17.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA08825 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:23:48 -0500 Received: (from nevin@localhost) by fermat.mts.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fA1ANmr07643; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:23:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: fermat.mts.jhu.edu: nevin set sender to nevin@jhu.edu using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: cvs down References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4roflo9z.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> X-Face: H~?ZI_L2!bGIrH^iC0e8t85[S`lwpP_/-sOvkGnN[\)[S";}xM3[Ib!ljz-80yK9SIf9sz6/DcY?yKUq1=-&XdrLjA^wK1 From: Nevin Kapur In-Reply-To: <4roflo9z.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> (Adrian Aichner's message of "Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:20:24 +0100") Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 05:23:48 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , [Apologies for the previous mistakenly sent mail.] Adrian Aichner writes: >>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: [...] > > Nevin> One hitch. I am tracking the release-21-4 tag. When 21.4.5 came out, > Nevin> I used xemacs-21.4.4-21.4.5.patch.gz to patch my source tree. Now, > Nevin> when I did a cvs up, all the files have an M flag, for example: > > Nevin> cvs server: Updating etc > Nevin> M etc/OXYMORONS > > Nevin> Is that to be expected? (I realize this is probably not an > Nevin> XEmacs question.) > > It's definitely a question related to XEmacs development which > xemacs-beta is for. > > Please send us output of > > cvs status etc/OXYMORONS [root@bombay xemacs-21.4]# cvs status etc/OXYMORONS =================================================================== File: OXYMORONS Status: Locally Modified Working revision: 1.2 Repository revision: 1.2 /pack/anoncvs/xemacs/etc/Attic/OXYMORONS,v Sticky Tag: release-21-4 (branch: 1.2.2) Sticky Date: (none) Sticky Options: (none) > Perhaps you have a sticky tag or something like that? I do. But that's intentional. -- Nevin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 05:35:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA09588; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:34:03 -0500 Received: from fermat.mts.jhu.edu (fermat.mts.jhu.edu [128.220.17.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA09368 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:31:04 -0500 Received: (from nevin@localhost) by fermat.mts.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fA1AV4Y07670; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:31:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: fermat.mts.jhu.edu: nevin set sender to nevin@jhu.edu using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: cvs down References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zo67m058.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Face: H~?ZI_L2!bGIrH^iC0e8t85[S`lwpP_/-sOvkGnN[\)[S";}xM3[Ib!ljz-80yK9SIf9sz6/DcY?yKUq1=-&XdrLjA^wK1 From: Nevin Kapur In-Reply-To: <87zo67m058.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:16:19 +0900") Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 05:31:04 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 56 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: > > Nevin> One hitch. I am tracking the release-21-4 tag. When > Nevin> 21.4.5 came out, I used xemacs-21.4.4-21.4.5.patch.gz to > Nevin> patch my source tree. Now, when I did a cvs up, all the > Nevin> files have an M flag, for example: > > Nevin> cvs server: Updating etc > Nevin> M etc/OXYMORONS > > Nevin> Is that to be expected? (I realize this is probably not an > Nevin> XEmacs question.) > > Yes. You changed the source files without changing the CVS metadata. > The patchkit intentionally omits the CVS directories. CVS will notice > this. OK. That clears that up. > After the update, however, a cvs diff should show only true local > modifications. Also during the update you should get a lot of "XXX > already contains YYYY changes" messages. I haven't made _any_ local changes. I use cvs to keep up with some tag. Currently that is release-21-4. > If you show a lot of changes that you didn't make in the cvs diff, > please let me know. That should not happen, and may mean I've messed > up the patch kit. Here's the diff for one of the files that's being shown as locally modified. [root@bombay xemacs-21.4]# cvs diff -u etc/OXYMORONS Index: etc/OXYMORONS =================================================================== RCS file: /pack/anoncvs/xemacs/etc/Attic/OXYMORONS,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 OXYMORONS --- etc/OXYMORONS 2001/04/12 18:20:48 1.2 +++ etc/OXYMORONS 2001/11/01 10:25:54 @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ 21.4.14: Security Through Obscurity 21.4.15: Standard C 21.4.16: Successful IPO +21.4.17: Sufficiently Smart Compiler -N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestoins can be accepted now. +N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestions can be accepted now. -- Nevin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 06:40:27 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA13193; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 06:40:10 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA13135; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 06:39:41 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zGBP-0000iU-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 20:38:51 +0900 To: Nevin Kapur , adrian@xemacs.org Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Mirror INCOMPLETE [was: cvs down] References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zo67m058.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 01 Nov 2001 20:38:50 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87wv1alnzp.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian, FYI. >>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: Nevin> I haven't made _any_ local changes. I use cvs to keep up Nevin> with some tag. Well, that clears that up. :-) Nevin> Currently that is release-21-4. The following patch shows that you have have the 21.4.4 -> 21.4.5 changes, from which I deduce that the mirror at SunSITE was not yet up to date when you checked out. Hm. It seems to be up to date for ./version.sh (which shows a r21-4-5 tag), but not for ./etc/OXYMORONS (which shows only a r21-4-4 tag). The canonical repository _is_ correct. --- etc/OXYMORONS 2001/04/12 18:20:48 1.2 +++ etc/OXYMORONS 2001/11/01 10:25:54 @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ 21.4.14: Security Through Obscurity 21.4.15: Standard C 21.4.16: Successful IPO +21.4.17: Sufficiently Smart Compiler -N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestoins can be accepted now. +N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestions can be accepted now. -- Nevin -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 08:20:47 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18322; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:20:09 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18260; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:19:23 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zHjm-0001U7-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 22:18:26 +0900 To: kyle_jones@wonderworks.com (Kyle Jones), ben@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 21.1.4-mule: auto save doubles escape chars References: <9ro19k$eut@ice.wonderworks.com> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 01 Nov 2001 22:18:26 +0900 In-Reply-To: <9ro19k$eut@ice.wonderworks.com> Message-ID: <87ofmmljdp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Thanks for the patch, Kyle. >>>>> "Kyle" == Kyle Jones writes: Kyle> Looking at the XEmacs code, this seems to be intentional, Kyle> though I don't know why. Ben? I don't see how this could possibly work right for a non-ISO 2022 encoding that contains escape characters? Kyle> Here's a patch. Recommended for the 21.1 code line because Kyle> this problem corrupts autosave files of mail folders that Kyle> have ISO-2022-JP encoded messages in them. I haven't looked Kyle> at the development code line so I don't know if the patch is The problem affects all XEmacsen since 21.1. I suspect Ben had his reasons for using escape-quoted here, so he may have an alternative. This works for me so I'm forwarding to xemacs-patches, pending comment from Ben. Kyle> approrpiate there. I also changed the MULE #ifdef to Kyle> FILE_CODING because maintaining the current coding system Kyle> looks like the right thing to do in that context also. src/ChangeLog: 2001/10/31 Kyle Jones * fileio.c (auto_save_1): Use current coding system, not escape-quoted, for autosaves. *** src/fileio.c 2001/10/31 04:21:24 1.1 --- src/fileio.c 2001/10/31 04:22:01 *************** *** 3825,3832 **** return /* !!#### need to deal with this 'escape-quoted everywhere */ Fwrite_region_internal (Qnil, Qnil, a, Qnil, Qlambda, Qnil, ! #ifdef MULE ! Qescape_quoted #else Qnil #endif --- 3825,3832 ---- return /* !!#### need to deal with this 'escape-quoted everywhere */ Fwrite_region_internal (Qnil, Qnil, a, Qnil, Qlambda, Qnil, ! #ifdef FILE_CODING ! current_buffer->buffer_file_coding_system #else Qnil #endif -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 08:24:19 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18657; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:24:05 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA26622; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:34:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA26591 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:33:34 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zCL5-0000WW-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:32:35 +0900 To: "paul beckett (JIC)" Cc: "'crashes@xemacs.org'" Subject: Re: (no subject) References: From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 01 Nov 2001 16:32:35 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87pu73lze4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "paul" == paul beckett <(JIC)" > writes: Nothing very helpful. We absolutely need to know where in the code XEmacs crashed and what version and platform it is. XEmacs sources are about 30MB now and _none_ of it causes crashes that we know about. Please try _really_ hard to get us the backtrace from the core dump (many shells will allow the dump with a command like "ulimit -c unlimited", that's bash-specific). Or even better you can run under the debugger. My favorite is gdb `which xemacs` | tee gdb.out (gdb) run web_query.pl (gdb) where (gdb) quit Something similar should be possible with dbx. If you can get XEmacs running at all, M-x report-xemacs-bug RET will help a lot, giving almost all the information we need automatically, although you have to collect the stack trace yourself. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 10:38:49 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26723; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:38:20 -0500 Received: from Cantor.suse.de (ns.suse.de [213.95.15.193]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26643; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:37:17 -0500 Received: from Hermes.suse.de (Hermes.suse.de [213.95.15.136]) by Cantor.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3511EA94; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:37:12 +0100 (MET) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta Mailing List Subject: Re: Crash with 21.4 and 21.5 on SuSE Linux 7.3 References: <3BD9479D.2D194E25@de.ibm.com> <87lmhx1z24.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87elnjngdc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: mfabian@suse.de X-Face: "';oPz9V1+<,`}1ZuxRv~EiSusWq*{Yjr"Sdvbhq'?q=2R\\6Y9O/,SAE`{J|6I=|w/sQg< rW_N'E3IV6~f8?\l#Es`]S`mv',PY(`8{$$R?+gLu}Qv/Mn>)?uladFjJ@yl!_p_Jh;5QxlD6zL:?r IXe4FfK$C^mWhh$o`yt;.r.FLZLQOWBt> Date: 01 Nov 2001 16:37:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "01 Nov 2001 15:40:31 +0900" Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Fabian writes: > [...] > Mike> Is it recommended to build binary packages of XEmacs with > Mike> the portable dumper? > > Not if unexec has a history of working solidly. Experience with the > portable dumper is much shorter and includes recent bugs. Not to > mention that the main pdump developers (Olivier and Martin) are > currently busy with work and play respectively. > > I see no reason for people who build their own frequently not to use > the pdumper; risks are low. But for people who use a binary package > and hope to leave it in place for a year or so, I don't think it's > worth suing pdump just to satisfy "political correctness." Thank you, then I'll stay with using the regular dumper for the SuSE packages for now. -- Mike Fabian http://www.suse.de/~mfabian $B?gL2ITB-$O$$$$;E;v$NE($@!#(B From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 11:45:40 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31452; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:45:12 -0500 Received: from pm1.contactor.se (gw.contactor.se [193.15.23.130]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31389 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:44:18 -0500 Received: from c213-89-177-36.cm-upc.chello.se (pm1 [193.15.23.1]) by pm1.contactor.se (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04941 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 17:44:09 +0100 (MET) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Tutorial out of date? From: Mats Lidell Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:45:16 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, Had some fun the other day and did a swedish version of the tutorial (Soon ready. How do I contribute?) I found then that there were some things that didn't seem to be up to date with the current behavior. Example: "Del" now by default "deletes the next character after the cursor." Now this is something that goes for all languages so if one of the tutorials is fixed the rest should be fixed to. I guess that the way to do it is to update the english version and then the other languages. Is there any work in progress here? Are the tutorials in sync with FSF? Yours -- %% Mats From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 14:12:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11092; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:11:25 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10970; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:10:32 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zNDb-0001rD-00; Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:09:35 +0900 To: ari@mbf.sphere.ne.jp (ARISAWA Akihiro) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-mule@xemacs.org, ben@xemacs.org Subject: [PATCH] supports fontset for Tabs References: From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 02 Nov 2001 04:09:35 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87ofmmjok0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Redirected to xemacs-beta and xemacs-mule for discussion. I am strongly inclined to veto this patch for the following reasons. Comments? >>>>> "ARISAWA" == ARISAWA Akihiro writes: ARISAWA> This patch supports fontset for Tabs. This is the wrong way to go. We support fontsets in the menubar for historical reasons, but AFAIK the tab controls and progress bars use faces to control fonts and other properties of text display. The fontset support in the menubar has been nothing but trouble for customization, and AFAIK cannot be changed after initialization. Supporting FontSets for Athena means also supporting FontLists for Motif, and what do we do for GTK? This patch is a new feature, and therefore inappropriate for 21.4. Even if the face support in the widgets does not extend to Mule fonts, in 21.5 we should be working to get rid of the fontset support that exists, rather than extending it to other parts of the code. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 14:19:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11945; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:19:01 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11371; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:13:55 -0500 Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15zNHl-0005Xr-0G; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 20:13:53 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.9.6]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 15zNHY-0pYfY0C; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 20:13:40 +0100 To: Mats Lidell Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Tutorial out of date? References: X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 84 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Mats" == Mats Lidell writes: Mats> Hi, Mats> Had some fun the other day and did a swedish version of the Mats> tutorial (Soon ready. How do I contribute?) Hi Mats, http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/index.html is a good starting point. What TUTORIAL version exactly have you based your translation on? It'll be great to have a swedish version of the TUTORIAL for XEmacs. Just send the file to xemacs-patches@xemacs.org stating that this is a new file and which XEmacs branch it corresponds to (21.1 or stable, 21.4 or gamma, 21.5 or beta). These are your references for TUTORIAL.se, depending on which release you are trgetting: main or trunk or beta is currently headed for 21.5: http://sunsite.dk/cvsweb/xemacs/etc/TUTORIAL?only_with_tag=MAIN release-21-4 or gamma: http://sunsite.dk/cvsweb/xemacs/etc/TUTORIAL?only_with_tag=release-21-4 release-21-1 or stable: http://sunsite.dk/cvsweb/xemacs/etc/TUTORIAL?only_with_tag=release-21-1 Please make sure to sync TUTORIAL.se with the corresponding english XEmacs TUTORIAL. Be aware that it will be simple to get the new TUTORIAL accepted for 21.5, but 21.1 has been released and it is unclear when/if there will be another release. Gamma release 21.4 is about to be accepted to become the current stable version. A Swedish tutorial will sure be a valuable addition for this release, but Stephen Turnbull will have to approve this. Mats> I found then that there were some things that didn't seem to Mats> be up to date with the current behavior. Example: "Del" now Current behavior in which version of XEmacs? Mats> by default "deletes the next character after the cursor." Mats> Now this is something that goes for all languages so if one Mats> of the tutorials is fixed the rest should be fixed to. I Mats> guess that the way to do it is to update the english version Mats> and then the other languages. Yes, that's what I have been doing for the German TUTORIAL.de. Mats> Is there any work in progress here? Are the tutorials in I have recently completed updating TUTORIAL.de in branch ben-mule-21-5 according to major changes in http://sunsite.dk/cvsweb/xemacs/etc/TUTORIAL?only_with_tag=ben-mule-21-5 by Ben Wing. If all goes well, this branch will be merged back to the trunk before 21.5 is released. Mats> sync with FSF? Well, XEmacs is not completely in sync with GNU Emacs either. The TUTORIAL needs to reflect this. Ben has done a lot of work in that area for ben-mule-21-5 and added key binding information for tty. Mats> Yours Mats> -- Mats> %% Mats Hope this helps, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 14:36:23 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13714; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:36:01 -0500 Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu [128.173.14.103]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13607; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:34:37 -0500 From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fA1JYaMb007546; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:34:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200111011934.fA1JYaMb007546@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] supports fontset for Tabs In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:09:35 +0900." <87ofmmjok0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Url: http://black-ice.cc.vt.edu/~valdis/ X-Face-Viewer: See ftp://cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/index.html to decode picture X-Face: 34C9$Ewd2zeX+\!i1BA\j{ex+$/V'JBG#;3_noWWYPa"|,I#`R"{n@w>#:{)FXyiAS7(8t( ^*w5O*!8O9YTe[r{e%7(yVRb|qxsRYw`7J!`AM}m_SHaj}f8eb@d^L>BrX7iO[ <87ofmmjok0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-233704304P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:34:36 -0500 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-233704304P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:09:35 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" said: > This patch is a new feature, and therefore inappropriate for 21.4. > Even if the face support in the widgets does not extend to Mule fonts, > in 21.5 we should be working to get rid of the fontset support that > exists, rather than extending it to other parts of the code. Given that fontsets exist to solve an actual problem (that you may not have one font that covers the charspace, but can use several related fonts to cover), what do you propose to replace the fontset support that you wish to get rid of? -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech --==_Exmh_-233704304P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQA/AwUBO+GjzHAt5Vm009ewEQKdWQCg7HmM6sGGNg09jUAxIXkcbBrSSsUAoMzS 3A/KWQIohlKIPFqryH08ny19 =WNr7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-233704304P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 14:39:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13982; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:39:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13915 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:38:11 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zNeI-0001sE-00; Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:37:10 +0900 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: Mats Lidell , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Tutorial out of date? References: From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 02 Nov 2001 04:37:10 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87elnijna1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: APA> A Swedish tutorial will sure be a valuable addition for this APA> release, but Stephen Turnbull will have to approve this. Docs are always welcome. It would be nice to have a second opinion on it before you submit it. APA> If all goes well, this branch will be merged back to the APA> trunk before 21.5 is released. ben-mule-21-5 will be merged in the not too distant future. It's basically pending logs and internals documentation right now. Other than that it builds, runs, sings, dances, and does Unicode so it's ready to be merged and make the times interesting again. We are all backed up, aren't we? Wheeee! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 14:41:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14221; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:41:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14053; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:39:47 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zNfv-0001sg-00; Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:38:51 +0900 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] supports fontset for Tabs References: <87ofmmjok0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200111011934.fA1JYaMb007546@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 02 Nov 2001 04:38:50 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200111011934.fA1JYaMb007546@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <87ady6jn79.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Valdis" == Valdis Kletnieks writes: Valdis> Given that fontsets exist to solve an actual problem (that Valdis> you may not have one font that covers the charspace, but Valdis> can use several related fonts to cover), what do you Valdis> propose to replace the fontset support that you wish to Valdis> get rid of? The existing superior solution: faces. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 15:45:33 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20008; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:45:07 -0500 Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu [128.173.14.103]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19946; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:44:38 -0500 From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fA1KiXMb007932; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:44:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200111012044.fA1KiXMb007932@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] supports fontset for Tabs In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:38:50 +0900." <87ady6jn79.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Url: http://black-ice.cc.vt.edu/~valdis/ X-Face-Viewer: See ftp://cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/index.html to decode picture X-Face: 34C9$Ewd2zeX+\!i1BA\j{ex+$/V'JBG#;3_noWWYPa"|,I#`R"{n@w>#:{)FXyiAS7(8t( ^*w5O*!8O9YTe[r{e%7(yVRb|qxsRYw`7J!`AM}m_SHaj}f8eb@d^L>BrX7iO[ <87ofmmjok0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200111011934.fA1JYaMb007546@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <87ady6jn79.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-153338228P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:44:33 -0500 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-153338228P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:38:50 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" said: > >>>>> "Valdis" == Valdis Kletnieks writes: > > Valdis> Given that fontsets exist to solve an actual problem (that > Valdis> you may not have one font that covers the charspace, but > Valdis> can use several related fonts to cover), what do you > Valdis> propose to replace the fontset support that you wish to > Valdis> get rid of? > > The existing superior solution: faces. Superior it may be. However, checking the FAQ that came with XEmacs: Q3.2.2: How do I set the text, menu and modeline fonts? ------------------------------------------------------- Note that you should use `Emacs.' and not `Emacs*' when setting face values. In `.Xdefaults': Emacs.default.attributeFont: -*-*-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-m-*-*-* Emacs*menubar*font: fixed Emacs.modeline.attributeFont: fixed This is confusing because modeline is a face, and can be found listed with all faces in the current mode by using `M-x set-face-font (enter) ?'. It uses the face specification of `attributeFont', while menubar is a normal X thing that uses the specification `font'. With Motif it may be necessary to use `fontList' instead of `font'. Hmm... that was helpful. Really. Doesn't explain how to use a face instead of a fontset. There's nothing about faces in the "Internationalization" section of the FAQ. There's nothing about setting faces for this in the sample.emacs OK.. Let's go look around in the menubar. "Options" has "Edit faces", go poking around there for a while, and finally find 'default' face in the 615-line buffer. Right mouse on the little arrow, and *aha*, we have 'Font Family'. Hmm... what does it want? I can *guess* that it wants 'Size' as either pixels or points - but it's unclear which. The other attributes.. Hmm.. pixmap it probably wants a pathname. A bunch of toggles. Foreground/Background, I'm *guessing* it wants a color specifier, not clear if it wants an #rrggbb value, or a (1.0,1.0,1.0) style, or a name from the rgb.txt file, or whether it's smart enough to guess what I mean. But "Font Family"? Say I want Helvetica - can I specify 'adobe-helvetica', or do I have to hope it doesn't guess helvetica from the alias, cronyx, or urw foundries? Or does it want 'adobe helvetica'? Hmm.. that might be fun if I wanted 'new times roman' that has blanks in the XLFD.... (As an aside - I did 'control-h ? ?' and here's what it *said*: C Customize Emacs options. C-d How to obtain XEmacs. e Information about the most recent error. F Local copy of the XEmacs FAQ. Hmm... so C-h C gets us help on how to *use* this Customize? Nope, it *invokes* customize. Blech. The *other* choices near it in the list produce *info* - control-h C-d doesn't download XEmacs, it tells you how to do so). So the score is now Customize 2, user 0. OK.. 'C-h a face', and start digging. Not much stuff that has the little asterist that says it's user-callable. Going and looking at the docstring for set-face-font points you to make-font-specifier. That says: Compiled Lisp function, (loaded from "/home/valdis/src/xemacs-21.2/lisp/objects.elc"): arguments: (spec-list) Return a new `font' specifier object with the given specification list. SPEC-LIST can be a list of specifications (each of which is a cons of a locale and a list of instantiators), a single instantiator, or a list of instantiators. See `make-specifier' for more information about specifiers. Valid instantiators for font specifiers are: -- a string naming a font (e.g. under X this might be "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-140-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" for a 14-point upright medium-weight Courier font) -- a font instance (use that instance directly if the device matches, or use the string that generated it) -- a vector of no elements (only on TTY's; this means to set no font at all, thus using the "natural" font of the terminal's text) -- a vector of one element (a face to inherit from) Now... how is a poor novice user who just *knows* "this fontset works just fine for me everyplace else" supposed to figure out how to specify a face without using a fontset? OK.. Maybe the answer is in the User's Guide someplace, I'll have to investigate that once I figure out why RedHat's texinfo-4.0c-1 does this: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/valdis/src/xemacs-21.2/man' makeinfo -P xemacs -o ../info/xemacs.info xemacs/xemacs.texi xemacs/programs.texi:1036: First argument to cross-reference may not be empty. makeinfo: Removing output file `../info/xemacs.info' due to errors; use --force to preserve. make[1]: *** [../info/xemacs.info] Error 2 /Valdis (who just spent 45 minutes *trying* to implement the superior solution). --==_Exmh_-153338228P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQA/AwUBO+G0MXAt5Vm009ewEQLH4wCfZkVxWKtZ631U5K5fXo5WfD6Q2rYAnj0U avzXhpKv86ncdK03NPnAPyau =xwlf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-153338228P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 15:48:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20226; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:48:01 -0500 Received: from modesty.pdc.kth.se (c-872a70d5.016-37-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [213.112.42.135]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20021 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:45:18 -0500 Received: by modesty.pdc.kth.se (Postfix, from userid 4219) id 925F3752; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 21:45:01 +0100 (CET) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Tutorial out of date? References: <87elnijna1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: torkel@acc.umu.se (=?iso-8859-1?q?Bj=F6rn?= Torkelsson) Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 21:45:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87elnijna1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "02 Nov 2001 04:37:10 +0900") Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >>>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: > > APA> A Swedish tutorial will sure be a valuable addition for this > APA> release, but Stephen Turnbull will have to approve this. > > Docs are always welcome. It would be nice to have a second opinion on > it before you submit it. I'll be more than happy to proof read it. /torkel From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 21:06:48 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA08430; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 21:06:11 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA08399 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 21:05:47 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zThV-0002kq-00; Fri, 02 Nov 2001 11:04:53 +0900 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] supports fontset for Tabs References: <87ofmmjok0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200111011934.fA1JYaMb007546@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <87ady6jn79.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200111012044.fA1KiXMb007932@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 02 Nov 2001 11:04:53 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200111012044.fA1KiXMb007932@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <87r8rihqre.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 77 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Valdis" == Valdis Kletnieks writes: >> The existing superior solution: faces. Valdis> Superior it may be. However, checking the FAQ that came Valdis> with XEmacs: You're confusing UI with implementation. IMO we should (but don't, except for the menubar and that only at initialization) support fontset X resources for the near term. Translating FontSet/FontList resources to face specifications is trivial in principle. Coordinating that with foreground, background, etc specified as resources is a PITA in practice, which is undoubtedly why nobody's done it yet. But internally these should be represented as faces, not as XFontSets. Valdis> So the score is now Customize 2, user 0. Yup. Steve considers letting Customize take over faces without being complete, let alone well-documented, one of the two really big mistakes he made. Unfortunately, Customize has metastasized throughout the Lisp internals concerned with faces. We've got a couple people interested in working on it, but I don't have time right now and Peter Brown is very new at it, so significant progress is likely to take a while. Pray for the return of Hrvoje and Jan, I guess. However, we can and should support the X resource interfaces while we're cleaning up the mess. Valdis> Now... how is a poor novice user who just *knows* "this Valdis> fontset works just fine for me everyplace else" supposed Valdis> to figure out how to specify a face without using a Valdis> fontset? In Customize he's hosed, at least for now. I don't think there's anything in XEmacs _except_ the menubar initialization code which supports setting a face from a fontset. Which means he can't use it in a buffer anyhow. Keep your wet noodle handy and beat me with it once in a while, and I'll get around to doing something about supporting FontSet -> face translation in .Xresources (hopefully dragooning somebody, maybe Valdis, he's enthusiastic---oops, sorry, that's you, guess not :-) ---into doing it instead of me). It's not likely to happen in Customize soon because it will require a complete overhaul of how the face widget thinks about fonts. Valdis> once I figure out why RedHat's texinfo-4.0c-1 does this: Because the xref is probably broken. Make it look like this: ----- @cindex Ebrowse The Ebrowse is a separate facility tailored for C++, with tags and a class browser. @xref{Top,,, ebrowse, Ebrowse User's Manual}. @menu ----- Yes, this patch is already in current 21.4. Hmmm.... Hot damn, not in 21.5. 6/24 ... that was on Martin's watch, got dropped in the transition I guess. Fixed, soon in CVS and then 21.5.4. Sor-reeee! Valdis> /Valdis (who just spent 45 minutes *trying* to implement Valdis> the superior solution). And we love you for it, believe me. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 1 22:13:35 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA13566; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 22:13:17 -0500 Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu [128.173.14.103]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA13530; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 22:12:37 -0500 From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fA23CaMb009980; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 22:12:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200111020312.fA23CaMb009980@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] supports fontset for Tabs In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 02 Nov 2001 11:04:53 +0900." <87r8rihqre.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-URL: http://black-ice.cc.vt.edu/~valdis/ X-Face-Viewer: See ftp://cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/index.html to decode picture X-Face: 34C9$Ewd2zeX+\!i1BA\j{ex+$/V'JBG#;3_noWWYPa"|,I#`R"{n@w>#:{)FXyiAS7(8t( ^*w5O*!8O9YTe[r{e%7(yVRb|qxsRYw`7J!`AM}m_SHaj}f8eb@d^L>BrX7iO[ <87ofmmjok0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200111011934.fA1JYaMb007546@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <87ady6jn79.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200111012044.fA1KiXMb007932@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> <87r8rihqre.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 22:12:36 -0500 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 11:04:53 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" said: > You're confusing UI with implementation. IMO we should (but don't, > except for the menubar and that only at initialization) support > fontset X resources for the near term. Translating FontSet/FontList > resources to face specifications is trivial in principle. > Coordinating that with foreground, background, etc specified as > resources is a PITA in practice, which is undoubtedly why nobody's > done it yet. > > But internally these should be represented as faces, not as XFontSets. OH.. OK.. Having a "face" is OK by me, and if the UI allows me to say "Use this FontSet" for the face, and things get displayed on the monitor the way they should be, I'm happy. I get paid to worry about the internals of enough OTHER things that I've intentionally *tried* to avoid learning more about the innards of XEmacs than what I need to answer the question "What do I need in the init.el to make it do THIS?" ;) > However, we can and should support the X resource interfaces while > we're cleaning up the mess. In my shop, that's always called "In my copious spare time..." ;) > Valdis> Now... how is a poor novice user who just *knows* "this > Valdis> fontset works just fine for me everyplace else" supposed > Valdis> to figure out how to specify a face without using a > Valdis> fontset? > > In Customize he's hosed, at least for now. I don't think there's > anything in XEmacs _except_ the menubar initialization code which > supports setting a face from a fontset. Which means he can't use it > in a buffer anyhow. > > Keep your wet noodle handy and beat me with it once in a while, and > I'll get around to doing something about supporting FontSet -> face > translation in .Xresources (hopefully dragooning somebody, maybe > Valdis, he's enthusiastic---oops, sorry, that's you, guess not :-) No, actually, now that I know that my failure to figure it out was not my stupidity, but the fact you can't GET there from here.. ;) I spent quite some time getting exmh to display stuff right, even though I'm only truly fluent in one language. I figure that if it gets displayed the way the sender intended, then any lack of understanding is my fault, not the computer's... But see my comment above about free time.. ;) > ----- > @cindex Ebrowse > The Ebrowse is a separate facility tailored for C++, with tags and a > class browser. @xref{Top,,, ebrowse, Ebrowse User's Manual}. > > @menu > ----- > > Yes, this patch is already in current 21.4. Hmmm.... Hot damn, not > in 21.5. 6/24 ... that was on Martin's watch, got dropped in the > transition I guess. Fixed, soon in CVS and then 21.5.4. Sor-reeee! Man, I'm on a roll here ;) > Valdis> /Valdis (who just spent 45 minutes *trying* to implement > Valdis> the superior solution). > > And we love you for it, believe me. I seem to be unable to go anywhere NEAR a piece of code without leaving a trail of destruction behind me - I spent most of the last 48 hours finally (I think) tracking down a particularly nasty intermittent Sendmail bug - before finding a < that should probably be <=, I managed to find at least 3 other things broken in the code.. At least I'm not as bad as my co-worker Randy. He once plugged a hot-swap disk into a Dec 2100, and got a conflicting address (neat trick, since the addresses were assigned by the cabling based on the media bay). Tried another bay, it conflicted with a *differnt* disk. Further experimentation found that it was *not* a stuck address bit. The drive decided if the backplane thought its address was N, that it would answer to ((N+3) mod 7). We still dont know why.... /Valdis From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 01:23:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA25266; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 01:21:58 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA25110; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 01:18:48 -0500 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15zXfD-0002Cq-03; Fri, 02 Nov 2001 07:18:47 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.8.243]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 15zXf7-15jFrcC; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 07:18:41 +0100 To: Nevin Kapur Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: cvs down References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zo67m058.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 74 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: Hello Nevin, please let me know what output you get now for cvs -n -q update | grep "^[A-Z] " I hope I fixed directory permissions at SunSITE.dk for rsync to work now. Best regards, Adrian Nevin> "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >>>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: >> Nevin> One hitch. I am tracking the release-21-4 tag. When Nevin> 21.4.5 came out, I used xemacs-21.4.4-21.4.5.patch.gz to Nevin> patch my source tree. Now, when I did a cvs up, all the Nevin> files have an M flag, for example: >> Nevin> cvs server: Updating etc Nevin> M etc/OXYMORONS >> Nevin> Is that to be expected? (I realize this is probably not an Nevin> XEmacs question.) >> >> Yes. You changed the source files without changing the CVS metadata. >> The patchkit intentionally omits the CVS directories. CVS will notice >> this. Nevin> OK. That clears that up. >> After the update, however, a cvs diff should show only true local >> modifications. Also during the update you should get a lot of "XXX >> already contains YYYY changes" messages. Nevin> I haven't made _any_ local changes. I use cvs to keep up with some Nevin> tag. Currently that is release-21-4. >> If you show a lot of changes that you didn't make in the cvs diff, >> please let me know. That should not happen, and may mean I've messed >> up the patch kit. Nevin> Here's the diff for one of the files that's being shown as locally Nevin> modified. Nevin> [root@bombay xemacs-21.4]# cvs diff -u etc/OXYMORONS Nevin> Index: etc/OXYMORONS Nevin> =================================================================== Nevin> RCS file: /pack/anoncvs/xemacs/etc/Attic/OXYMORONS,v Nevin> retrieving revision 1.2 Nevin> diff -u -r1.2 OXYMORONS Nevin> --- etc/OXYMORONS 2001/04/12 18:20:48 1.2 Nevin> +++ etc/OXYMORONS 2001/11/01 10:25:54 Nevin> @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ Nevin> 21.4.14: Security Through Obscurity Nevin> 21.4.15: Standard C Nevin> 21.4.16: Successful IPO Nevin> +21.4.17: Sufficiently Smart Compiler Nevin> -N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestoins can be accepted now. Nevin> +N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestions can be accepted now. Nevin> -- Nevin> Nevin -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 08:28:56 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14700; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:27:32 -0500 Received: from paracelsus.fdm.uni-freiburg.de (paracelsus.fdm.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.97.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14583; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:26:06 -0500 Received: from zion.fdm.uni-freiburg.de (zion.fdm.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.97.24]) by paracelsus.fdm.uni-freiburg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fA2DQ4o18734; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 14:26:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gerds@localhost) by zion.fdm.uni-freiburg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) id fA2DQ4825294; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 14:26:04 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: zion.fdm.uni-freiburg.de: gerds set sender to gerds@fdm.uni-freiburg.de using -f To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: X error References: <87u1wflzsp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Thomas Gerds Date: 02 Nov 2001 14:26:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87u1wflzsp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 93 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > We've seen something like this before, it has not yet been > identified. I think it's mostly been on exit, though. What context, > are you usually doing a particular kind of thing or does it seem > totally random? indeed, it seems not to be connected to a particular command ... at least i cant force the problem to turn up. > > > Please send your Installation file, and any details about platform > that might be significant (eg, OpenMotif vs. platform Motif) that > are not evident from Installation. it is sparc-sun-solaris2.8 and uname -a gives SunOS zion.fdm.uni-freiburg.de 5.8 Generic_108528-05 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10 and here is the relevant part from the installation file: ## ## ## xemacs-21.4.5 ## ## umask 002 ## mkdir /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.5 ## cd /tmp gzip -cd /h/sc/downloads/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5.tar.gz | tar xvf - gzip -cd /h/sc/downloads/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5-elc.tar.gz | tar xvf - gzip -cd /h/sc/downloads/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5-info.tar.gz | tar xvf - ## cd xemacs-21.4.5 ./configure \ --cflags='-O2' \ --dynamic=yes \ --site-includes=/usr/local/include/X11 \ --site-libraries=/usr/local/lib/X11 \ --package-path=/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages ## --cflags='-O2 -mcpu=v8' \ ## make make install make gzip-el ## cd /usr/local chgrp -R staff bin/xemacs-21.4.5 chmod -R g+w bin/xemacs-21.4.5 ## rm -rf /tmp/xemacs-21.4.5 cd /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp ln -s /h/sc/xemacs/site-start.el ## ## ## ## xemacs-sumo-2001-07-09 ## ## umask 002 ## cd /usr/local/lib/xemacs rm -rf xemacs-packages-old mv xemacs-packages xemacs-packages-old ## zcat /h/sc/downloads/xemacs/xemacs-sumo-2001-07-09.tar.gz | tar xf - ## cd xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex rm tex-site.el ln -s /h/sc/xemacs/tex-site.el ln -s /h/sc/xemacs/auctex/style ## > > If you can get XEmacs running at all, and you have a recent version > of the net-utils package, M-x report-xemacs-bug RET is the > recommended way to submit bug reports, as it will give all that data > automatically, as well as a lot of information about context (such > as your packages and recent keystrokes). i will send a proper bug-report as soon as the problem turns up again ... thank you very much, tomy -- Signature for mail groups From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 09:15:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA17361; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:15:03 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.5]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA17316; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:14:03 -0500 Received: from localhost.optonline.net (ool-182db51c.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.181.28]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GM600HFZFEL7N@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:11:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:08:45 -0500 From: Les Schaffer X-Face: [V?bWTh\+_V")"gXxY9KGQozO(|>ggwp;\Ds6@YGoS$wreQaSLmhWUp%V;okpj4C^i$FQWK Q:/luO.Zh=VP"U5M.%m1cK:v9DgiQp^JK47nxE^=e3~HPoLmY,igNBZo)LUT3a2CFm*chsyaq7~=dU _IX>v[h$BZsa*yn5;?{|3Z@ZI@FL(e`-@wq`f?~{1){A%o:/t"39M@}ER]6.62NbfxrD%!{9!So^\9 c Subject: Re: gtk problems not disappearing by themselves In-reply-to: <87ady7nfmb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Reply-to: Les Schaffer Message-id: <15330.43245.267829.906994@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta2) "artichoke" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <15326.52573.318413.293631@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87ady7nfmb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.18. Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > I very interested in having them fixed, but not at the expense of > the stability of the 21.4 line. I personally don't have the time, > nor the expertise, to work on them, and that also implies that it > would take far too much time to judge whether they're "safe" or not. > This implies draconian restrictions on the patches I can accept for > 21.4. my original set of messages were related to exact same problems encountered on 21.5.3 builds. > The GTK stuff is explicitly listed as "experimental". so therefore don't respond to bug reports???? just to be clear here: i am not complaining about there being bugs in the gtk code, not complaining about perhaps needing to fix them myself, not complaining about gtk being experimental. am complaining about lack of response especially since i had the intent to pitch in and help out. i'd be happy with just a pointer like, oh, go look in the blah-blah code section, and i would be off and running. > You might try building 21.5.3 and seeing if that > works any better. nope. same problems. see my earlier reports. > If you really want the GTK stuff to improve soon > (2) Searching the xemacs-beta and xemacs-buildreports mailing lists > for people who post about and/or build the GTK port, and contacting > them to see if you can get a circle of active developers and testers > started to support Bill. um, i thought thats why i posted to this list: thinking there might be like minded people wanting to sort out the gtk stuff. if noone responded ON THE LIST, why would they respond to offlist requests??? is the xemacs-beta list essentially now a closed list where only select coders are collaborating on code? if so, i will unsub so as to not disturn your efforts further. ====== anywho, anyone interested in putting heads together and ironing out some of the gtk bugs offlist??? the two problems i see: 1.) when the buffer tab is set to top, left, bottom, i get a: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 3722 (gtk_widget_get_parent_window): assertion `widget->parent != NULL' failed. and a seperate frame is opended for the tab instead. interestingly, when "right" location is chosen, this does NOT happen, though the buffer tab displays incorrectly (basically, it doesnt display anything, just takes up space). 2.) redisplay after progress bar completion is hosed. see the pic at http://folks.astrian.net/godzilla/xemacs-redisplay.jpg and more complete report at: http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200109/msg00125.html les schaffer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 11:15:51 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24878; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:15:14 -0500 Received: from bombay.dyndns.org (mts-fw.mts.jhu.edu [128.220.17.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24843 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:14:48 -0500 Received: (from nevin@localhost) by bombay.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA2GEc501861; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:14:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: bombay.dyndns.org: nevin set sender to nevin@jhu.edu using -f Subject: Re: cvs down From: Nevin Kapur To: Adrian Aichner Cc: XEmacs Beta In-Reply-To: References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zo67m058.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.16 (Preview Release) Date: 02 Nov 2001 11:14:38 -0500 Message-Id: <1004717678.1787.5.camel@bombay.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Fri, 2001-11-02 at 01:19, Adrian Aichner wrote: > >>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: > > Hello Nevin, > > please let me know what output you get now for > cvs -n -q update | grep "^[A-Z] " Here it is. (11:03AM) bombay[/usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4]% cvs -n -q update | grep "^[A-Z] " M CHANGES-release M etc/OXYMORONS M lib-src/ChangeLog M lisp/ChangeLog M lisp/autoload.el M lisp/buff-menu.el M lisp/cus-edit.el M lisp/cus-face.el M lisp/etags.el M lisp/faces.el M lisp/files.el M lisp/font-lock.el M lisp/font-menu.el M lisp/gutter-items.el M lisp/lisp-mnt.el M lisp/menubar-items.el M lisp/mouse.el M lisp/process.el M lisp/startup.el M lisp/toolbar.el M lisp/win32-native.el M lwlib/ChangeLog M lwlib/lwlib-Xlw.c M lwlib/lwlib-Xm.c M lwlib/lwlib.c M lwlib/lwlib.h M lwlib/xlwgcs.c M lwlib/xlwtabs.c M lwlib/xlwtabs.h M man/ChangeLog M man/xemacs-faq.texi M man/xemacs/packages.texi M man/xemacs/text.texi M netinstall/ChangeLog U configure.ac M nt/ChangeLog M nt/xemacs.rc M src/ChangeLog M src/Makefile.in.in M src/alloc.c M src/buffer.c M src/callint.c M src/callproc.c M src/console.h M src/device-gtk.c M src/device-msw.c M src/device.c M src/device.h M src/editfns.c M src/emacs.c M src/event-msw.c M src/faces.h M src/fileio.c M src/frame-gtk.c M src/frame.c M src/glyphs-eimage.c M src/glyphs-msw.c M src/glyphs-x.c M src/lisp.h M src/lread.c M src/nt.c M src/nt.h M src/ntproc.c M src/process-nt.c M src/process-unix.c M src/profile.c M src/redisplay-gtk.c M src/redisplay-output.c M src/redisplay-x.c M src/redisplay.c M src/scrollbar-msw.c M src/select-gtk.c M src/signal.c M src/symsinit.h M src/systime.h M src/win32.c M src/window.c M src/window.h M src/s/sco5.h M tests/ChangeLog U netinstall/Makefile.in.in I still get the same diff for /etc/OXYMORONS: (11:08AM) bombay[/usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4]% cvs diff -u etc/OXYMORONS Index: etc/OXYMORONS =================================================================== RCS file: /pack/anoncvs/xemacs/etc/Attic/OXYMORONS,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 OXYMORONS --- etc/OXYMORONS 2001/04/12 18:20:48 1.2 +++ etc/OXYMORONS 2001/11/02 16:10:41 @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ 21.4.14: Security Through Obscurity 21.4.15: Standard C 21.4.16: Successful IPO +21.4.17: Sufficiently Smart Compiler -N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestoins can be accepted now. +N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestions can be accepted now. and status shows the sticky tag release-21-4 (as intended). -- Nevin Kapur nevin@jhu.edu From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 12:20:43 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29794; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:20:09 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29733; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:19:30 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04894; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA16476; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA04688; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:14:45 +0100 (MET) To: Nevin Kapur Cc: Adrian Aichner , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: cvs down References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zo67m058.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1004717678.1787.5.camel@bombay.dyndns.org> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 02 Nov 2001 18:19:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1004717678.1787.5.camel@bombay.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Lines: 147 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: Hi Nevin, OXYMORON,v on tanko and on sunsite.dk are identical now. please do a cvs update in /usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4 and then try cvs -n -q update | grep "^[A-Z] " again. I hope this will clear up things. Please do report back. Best regards, Adrian Nevin> On Fri, 2001-11-02 at 01:19, Adrian Aichner wrote: >> >>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: >> >> Hello Nevin, >> >> please let me know what output you get now for >> cvs -n -q update | grep "^[A-Z] " Nevin> Here it is. Nevin> (11:03AM) bombay[/usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4]% cvs -n -q update | grep Nevin> "^[A-Z] " Nevin> M CHANGES-release Nevin> M etc/OXYMORONS Nevin> M lib-src/ChangeLog Nevin> M lisp/ChangeLog Nevin> M lisp/autoload.el Nevin> M lisp/buff-menu.el Nevin> M lisp/cus-edit.el Nevin> M lisp/cus-face.el Nevin> M lisp/etags.el Nevin> M lisp/faces.el Nevin> M lisp/files.el Nevin> M lisp/font-lock.el Nevin> M lisp/font-menu.el Nevin> M lisp/gutter-items.el Nevin> M lisp/lisp-mnt.el Nevin> M lisp/menubar-items.el Nevin> M lisp/mouse.el Nevin> M lisp/process.el Nevin> M lisp/startup.el Nevin> M lisp/toolbar.el Nevin> M lisp/win32-native.el Nevin> M lwlib/ChangeLog Nevin> M lwlib/lwlib-Xlw.c Nevin> M lwlib/lwlib-Xm.c Nevin> M lwlib/lwlib.c Nevin> M lwlib/lwlib.h Nevin> M lwlib/xlwgcs.c Nevin> M lwlib/xlwtabs.c Nevin> M lwlib/xlwtabs.h Nevin> M man/ChangeLog Nevin> M man/xemacs-faq.texi Nevin> M man/xemacs/packages.texi Nevin> M man/xemacs/text.texi Nevin> M netinstall/ChangeLog Nevin> U configure.ac Nevin> M nt/ChangeLog Nevin> M nt/xemacs.rc Nevin> M src/ChangeLog Nevin> M src/Makefile.in.in Nevin> M src/alloc.c Nevin> M src/buffer.c Nevin> M src/callint.c Nevin> M src/callproc.c Nevin> M src/console.h Nevin> M src/device-gtk.c Nevin> M src/device-msw.c Nevin> M src/device.c Nevin> M src/device.h Nevin> M src/editfns.c Nevin> M src/emacs.c Nevin> M src/event-msw.c Nevin> M src/faces.h Nevin> M src/fileio.c Nevin> M src/frame-gtk.c Nevin> M src/frame.c Nevin> M src/glyphs-eimage.c Nevin> M src/glyphs-msw.c Nevin> M src/glyphs-x.c Nevin> M src/lisp.h Nevin> M src/lread.c Nevin> M src/nt.c Nevin> M src/nt.h Nevin> M src/ntproc.c Nevin> M src/process-nt.c Nevin> M src/process-unix.c Nevin> M src/profile.c Nevin> M src/redisplay-gtk.c Nevin> M src/redisplay-output.c Nevin> M src/redisplay-x.c Nevin> M src/redisplay.c Nevin> M src/scrollbar-msw.c Nevin> M src/select-gtk.c Nevin> M src/signal.c Nevin> M src/symsinit.h Nevin> M src/systime.h Nevin> M src/win32.c Nevin> M src/window.c Nevin> M src/window.h Nevin> M src/s/sco5.h Nevin> M tests/ChangeLog Nevin> U netinstall/Makefile.in.in Nevin> I still get the same diff for /etc/OXYMORONS: Nevin> (11:08AM) bombay[/usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4]% cvs diff -u etc/OXYMORONS Nevin> Index: etc/OXYMORONS Nevin> =================================================================== Nevin> RCS file: /pack/anoncvs/xemacs/etc/Attic/OXYMORONS,v Nevin> retrieving revision 1.2 Nevin> diff -u -r1.2 OXYMORONS Nevin> --- etc/OXYMORONS 2001/04/12 18:20:48 1.2 Nevin> +++ etc/OXYMORONS 2001/11/02 16:10:41 Nevin> @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ Nevin> 21.4.14: Security Through Obscurity Nevin> 21.4.15: Standard C Nevin> 21.4.16: Successful IPO Nevin> +21.4.17: Sufficiently Smart Compiler Nevin> -N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestoins can be accepted now. Nevin> +N.B. Only incredibly redeeming suggestions can be accepted now. Nevin> and status shows the sticky tag release-21-4 (as intended). Nevin> -- Nevin> Nevin Kapur Nevin> nevin@jhu.edu -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 15:50:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14341; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:49:10 -0500 Received: from brockman.tinet.ie (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14262 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:48:44 -0500 Received: from p485.as1.athlone1.eircom.net ([159.134.205.229] helo=159.134.205.229) by brockman.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 15zlEu-00066U-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 20:48:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 9471 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2001 21:30:21 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (HELO linux.local.localdomain) (vb@127.0.0.1) by softdnserror with SMTP; 2 Nov 2001 21:30:21 -0000 From: Vaclav Barta To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: bookmarks Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 20:48:33 +0000 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! the 21.1 xemacs (binary distribution for Windows) I use at work has a bunch of bookmark functions (i.e. bookmark-set, bookmark-jump...) for persistent, named bookmarks I'd very much like to use at home - but they aren't here... :-( The list of available packages doesn't suggest anything about bookmarks (at least not to me). Can I get these functions, please? ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.0 #3 Sun Jan 28 20:49:46 GMT 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/cvs.src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- nil Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .42 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (mule-base :version 1.39 :type regular)) Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail hyper-apropos cus-face overlay remem xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads semantic-autoloads psgml-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads igrep-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads efs-autoloads ediff-autoloads dired-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads mule-base-autoloads src-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar esd-sound native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- C-h a b o o k m a r k RET C-x k RET M-x r e p o r t - x e TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading mail-abbrevs... 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 16:28:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA19017; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:28:03 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18946; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:27:36 -0500 Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15zlqe-0008E6-05; Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:27:32 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.14.197]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 15zlqZ-0eYA9wC; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 22:27:27 +0100 To: Vaclav Barta Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: bookmarks References: X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 194 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Vaclav" == Vaclav Barta writes: Vaclav> This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, Vaclav> not to your local site managers!! Vaclav> Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have Vaclav> translators to read other languages for them. Vaclav> Please describe as succinctly as possible: Vaclav> - What happened. Vaclav> - What you thought should have happened. Vaclav> - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Vaclav> Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. Vaclav> ================================================================ Vaclav> Dear Bug Team! Vaclav> the 21.1 xemacs (binary distribution for Windows) I use at Vaclav> work has a bunch of bookmark functions (i.e. bookmark-set, Vaclav> bookmark-jump...) for persistent, named bookmarks I'd very Vaclav> much like to use at home - but they aren't here... :-( The Vaclav> list of available packages doesn't suggest anything about Vaclav> bookmarks (at least not to me). Can I get these functions, Vaclav> please? Hi Vaclav, because I have all non-mule packages installed, I am able to help you: (locate-library "bookmark") "c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\\lisp\\edit-utils\\bookmark.elc" This means, you have to install the edit-utils package. Best regards, Adrian Vaclav> ================================================================ Vaclav> System Info to help track down your bug: Vaclav> --------------------------------------- Vaclav> uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.0 #3 Sun Jan 28 20:49:46 GMT 2001 i686 unknown Vaclav> ./configure '--with-mule' Vaclav> XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Vaclav> Compilation / Installation: Vaclav> Source code location: /usr/local/cvs.src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 Vaclav> Installation prefix: /usr/local Vaclav> Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Vaclav> Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Vaclav> Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Vaclav> Relocating allocator for buffers: no Vaclav> GNU version of malloc: yes Vaclav> - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Vaclav> Window System: Vaclav> Compiling in support for the X window system: Vaclav> - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include Vaclav> - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib Vaclav> - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Vaclav> Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: Vaclav> - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw Vaclav> - Athena library to link: Xaw Vaclav> Using Lucid menubars. Vaclav> Using Lucid scrollbars. Vaclav> Using Athena dialog boxes. Vaclav> Using Athena native widgets. Vaclav> TTY: Vaclav> Compiling in support for ncurses. Vaclav> Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Vaclav> Images: Vaclav> Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Vaclav> Compiling in support for XPM images. Vaclav> Compiling in support for PNG images. Vaclav> Compiling in support for JPEG images. Vaclav> Compiling in support for TIFF images. Vaclav> Sound: Vaclav> Compiling in support for sound (native). Vaclav> Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Vaclav> Databases: Vaclav> Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Vaclav> Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Vaclav> Internationalization: Vaclav> Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Vaclav> Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). Vaclav> - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Vaclav> Mail: Vaclav> Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Vaclav> Other Features: Vaclav> Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Vaclav> Compiling in support for extra debugging code. Vaclav> WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Vaclav> WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. Vaclav> WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. Vaclav> WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. Vaclav> WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Vaclav> Load-Path Lisp Shadows: Vaclav> ---------------------- Vaclav> nil Vaclav> Installed XEmacs Packages: Vaclav> ------------------------- Vaclav> ((xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) Vaclav> (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) Vaclav> (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) Vaclav> (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) Vaclav> (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) Vaclav> (prog-modes Vaclav> :version Vaclav> 1 Vaclav> .42 Vaclav> :type Vaclav> single-file) Vaclav> (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) Vaclav> (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) Vaclav> (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) Vaclav> (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) Vaclav> (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) Vaclav> (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) Vaclav> (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) Vaclav> (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) Vaclav> (mule-base :version 1.39 :type regular)) Vaclav> Features: Vaclav> -------- Vaclav> (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail hyper-apropos cus-face overlay Vaclav> remem xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads Vaclav> semantic-autoloads psgml-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads Vaclav> net-utils-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads igrep-autoloads Vaclav> fsf-compat-autoloads efs-autoloads ediff-autoloads dired-autoloads Vaclav> cc-mode-autoloads mule-base-autoloads src-autoloads loadhist auto-show Vaclav> fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help Vaclav> code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse Vaclav> itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu Vaclav> lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start Vaclav> custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote Vaclav> very-early-lisp file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer Vaclav> lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar Vaclav> esd-sound native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast Vaclav> network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar Vaclav> berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm Vaclav> lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Vaclav> Recent keystrokes: Vaclav> ----------------- Vaclav> C-h a b o o k m a r k RET C-x k RET M-x r e p o r t Vaclav> - x e TAB RET Vaclav> Recent messages (most recent first): Vaclav> ----------------------------------- Vaclav> Loading mail-abbrevs... Vaclav> Loading xemacsbug...done Vaclav> Loading xemacsbug... Vaclav> Loading hyper-apropos...done Vaclav> Loading hyper-apropos... Vaclav> Loading remem.el...done Vaclav> Loading remem.el... Vaclav> Loading cus-face...done Vaclav> Loading cus-face... Vaclav> Loading remem.el...done Vaclav> Loading remem.el... -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 18:15:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA01013; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:15:08 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA00908; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:14:21 -0500 Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15znW0-0008Ao-08; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 00:14:20 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.14.197]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 15znVy-1ORxImC; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 00:14:18 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: [comp.emacs.xemacs] Documenting elisp code X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Any comments? --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline 200 T-Online Newsserver bereit [06] (posting ok). Path: news.t-online.com!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.hanau.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!212.54.64.131!news100.image.dk!news000.worldonline.dk.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jarl Friis Subject: Documenting elisp code Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Lines: 18 User-Agent: KNode/0.6.1 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 23:55:27 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.237.48.227 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@wol.dk X-Trace: news000.worldonline.dk 1004741932 213.237.48.227 (Fri, 02 Nov 2001 23:58:52 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 23:58:52 MET Organization: Customer of Tiscali A/S (World Online) Xref: news.t-online.com comp.emacs.xemacs:57450 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii according to the "elisp refference" (lispref.info) there are som elisp commenting tips. It describes when to use one, two, three, and four semicolons and where they should be put and alligned. But those tips don't fit to well with the tips given in the "library headers" section (same info-file) , here ";;" is used where, according to the commenting tips, ";;;" should be used. similarily ";;;" is used where ";;;;" should be used. The outline-mode seem to follow the library header tips, and *not* the elisp commenting tips. Why are the tips so contradicting? Jarl -- Life is great. --=-=-= -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 19:04:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA07266; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 19:04:03 -0500 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA07167; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 19:03:12 -0500 Received: from hssun02b.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.135.3]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03903; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 17:02:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from philly.hssun02b.eng.sun.com (philly [129.144.28.69]) by hssun02b.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id QAA07605; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:03:06 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: 21.4 (patch 2) "Developer-Friendly Unix APIs" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 9-beta-4 I) From: Tony Lam To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Thomas Gerds , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: X error In-Reply-To: <87u1wflzsp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87u1wflzsp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Date: 02 Nov 2001 16:03:04 -0800 Lines: 22 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , => On Nov 1, 2001, Stephen J Turnbull(S) wrote: >>>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Gerds writes: Thomas> hi, the xemacs-21.4.? generation produces the error Thomas> message below (in the xterm-window) from where we called Thomas> xemacs. at the same time all xemacs-frames turn white and Thomas> most often nothing helps but kill -9 ... S> We've seen something like this before, it has not yet been S> identified. I think it's mostly been on exit, though. What context, S> are you usually doing a particular kind of thing or does it seem S> totally random? There are numerous report on this error for XEmacs on Solaris and AIX(?). It usually occurs after XEmacs is being used for some time(a few days), but it almost happens every time on frame re-painting. This bug has not been tracked down. Tony From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 2 20:05:39 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14439; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 20:05:07 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14383; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 20:04:39 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B09830BE; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:04:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B420F665; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:04:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id RAA15237; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 17:04:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111030104.RAA15237@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Tony Lam Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Thomas Gerds , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: X error Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "02 Nov 2001 16:03:04 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 17:04:26 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Tony Lam wrote: > There are numerous report on this error for XEmacs on Solaris and > AIX(?). It usually occurs after XEmacs is being used for some time(a > few days), but it almost happens every time on frame re-painting. This > bug has not been tracked down. As far as I can tell, *ANY* X error will cause XEmacs to lock up. It doesn't seem to matter which one -- once one occurs, XEmacs is dead. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 00:53:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA17401; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 00:52:21 -0500 Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA17327; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 00:51:08 -0500 Received: from modem-1226.kowabunga.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.134.158.202] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 15zthn-0002WZ-00; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 05:50:55 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15ztmm-0005Zy-00; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 05:56:04 +0000 To: Les Schaffer Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gtk problems not disappearing by themselves References: <15326.52573.318413.293631@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87ady7nfmb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <15330.43245.267829.906994@gargle.gargle.HOWL> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) Emacs/20.7.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) Organisation: [night shift] X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: 2MS~r;{kSX\.,#P{]f7%:$QhX2prhKyF*zry@u)z|"sz4"c_y|cU4AqVtCes!aP4_<7JShI !4=GH&T.?zV[!&/8q-hco""vvHOkPEQI2;KhLvce=:f(6xQ2%&;;E84Y;aKEYQx#}k\jcmu~aA2 M&_bl6VDBZ+1a<9>LYR@i)st Date: 03 Nov 2001 05:56:04 +0000 In-Reply-To: <15330.43245.267829.906994@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Les Schaffer's message of "Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:08:45 -0500") Message-ID: <87snbwo0sr.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 31 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Les Schaffer wrote: > anywho, anyone interested in putting heads together and ironing out > some of the gtk bugs offlist??? Yes... > the two problems i see: I get them too on XEmacs 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" [Lucid] (i686-pc-linux). > 1.) when the buffer tab is set to top, left, bottom, i get a: > > Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 3722 > (gtk_widget_get_parent_window): assertion `widget->parent != NULL' > failed. I get: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 3718 (gtk_widget_get_parent_window): assertion `widget->parent != NULL' failed. > 2.) redisplay after progress bar completion is hosed. For me, the total height of the scrollbar is truncated by the height of the progress bar. After quite awhile redisplay goes sane again. As a workaround I turn both off. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 07:23:43 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA09633; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 07:22:18 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA09480 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 07:21:21 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zzmi-00065l-00; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 21:20:24 +0900 To: Les Schaffer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gtk problems not disappearing by themselves References: <15326.52573.318413.293631@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87ady7nfmb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <15330.43245.267829.906994@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 03 Nov 2001 21:20:23 +0900 In-Reply-To: <15330.43245.267829.906994@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <87ady4f3lk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 99 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Les" == Les Schaffer writes: >> The GTK stuff is explicitly listed as "experimental". Les> so therefore don't respond to bug reports???? Yes, exactly. It's in the priority queue at low priority, what more can we guarantee? We are trying to turn 21.4 into something that allows us to say "There's no point in 21.1 any more, 21.4 is all that and much more." It isn't there yet, and until it is, _I_ have _no_ time for GTK, and I'm not going to ask people who pay attention to my requests to work on it, either. Sorry, that's the way it has to be. Les> just to be clear here: i am not complaining about there being Les> bugs in the gtk code, not complaining about perhaps needing Les> to fix them myself, not complaining about gtk being Les> experimental. Les> am complaining about lack of response especially since i had Les> the intent to pitch in and help out. i'd be happy with just a Les> pointer like, oh, go look in the blah-blah code section, and Les> i would be off and running. The GTK port was basically implemented by one guy, Bill Perry, in a few months on contract to a company which doesn't exist anymore. If he doesn't respond, there are no other experts yet. Me, I read all bug reports. If they don't ring a bell and aren't relevant to 21.4 support, they go into my round.tuit file at nice 10 (which now has over 400 messages in it since April), and I say a quick prayer that the expert will read them and answer. But I had no pointers to give, except to Bill, which I did, and a short essay on how you might go about gathering support for your priorities. Les> um, i thought thats why i posted to this list: thinking there Les> might be like minded people wanting to sort out the gtk Les> stuff. if noone responded ON THE LIST, why would they respond Les> to offlist requests??? Well, for starters the subject was a little off-putting. Flamebait, even. Many people would prefer not to on that. Or maybe they may not be reading the list due to general lack of progress on GTK and unwillingness to take initiative themselves. Or maybe they read it, but didn't have a clue to offer. But they might respond to personal mail if someone took that initiative to actually cull the archives for people who had posted multiple times or otherwise showed pretty strong interest. Yes, personal communication actually works. It's especially important when there's something you think needs doing but the powers that be seem uninterested. I'm well aware that the review board's, and especially my, attitude has a chilling effect on some of these projects. That's part and parcel of the responsibility of maintainership. We don't like that effect, but we can't avoid it if we're going to concentrate effort, including other people's, on getting 21.4 perfected. Eg, really, I'd rather _you_ work on the font-lock problems. If you don't have interest, by all means, work on GTK. I have to make those priorities public. That's what we call "leadership." In the face of that, to get people to respond honestly, you may have to go off-line. That's how 21.4 itself happened, as well as other things over the past year. Man, I _been_ where you are, I did what I suggested that you do, it bloody well worked. That's why I recommended it to you. Les> is the xemacs-beta list essentially now a closed list where Les> only select coders are collaborating on code? if so, i will Les> unsub so as to not disturn your efforts further. Not at all. Did anyone say "that's OT?" Of course not. I do read everything on the list. I just don't respond when all I have to post is "I don't know." There's nothing wrong with not responding if you have nothing to contribute to the thread. Please note, at this point you're no longer asking for collaboration. You're asking for people to drop whatever it is they're already doing and work on what bugs you. (That is the unavoidable inference from the phrasing of the subject.) _There's nothing wrong with that_, and xemacs-beta is _exactly_ the place to start. I wish more people would do it. Hey, you've already gotten at least one positive response. All I was doing is to point out that we have explicitly said "this is cool, we'd love it if someone _else_ would pick it up and run with it, but it is not part of what we can encourage devoting effort to supporting (_yet_)." That's what "experimental" means in practice. There are probably a dozen features like that in 21.4. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 07:30:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA10398; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 07:30:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA10212 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 07:28:27 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zztg-00065w-00; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 21:27:36 +0900 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: XEmacs Beta List , Jarl Friis Subject: Re: [comp.emacs.xemacs] Documenting elisp code References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 03 Nov 2001 21:27:36 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87668sf39j.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: APA> Any comments? APA> From: Jarl Friis jf> according to the "elisp refference" (lispref.info) there are jf> som elisp commenting tips. It describes when to use one, two, jf> three, and four semicolons and where they should be put and jf> alligned. jf> But those tips don't fit to well with the tips given in the jf> "library headers" section (same info-file) , here ";;" is used jf> where, according to the commenting tips, ";;;" should be jf> used. similarily ";;;" is used where ";;;;" should be used. jf> The outline-mode seem to follow the library header tips, and jf> *not* the elisp commenting tips. Do you mean outline-mode _in use_ groks the library header tips? Or that the source code is written in conformance with them? jf> Why are the tips so contradicting? Probably because they were written by different people. For my money, the lisp-mnt library explicitly supports the "library header" approach, I think there are other tools (maybe outline mode?) that do too. What does emacs-lisp-mode do? If it is compatible with lisp-mnt style, we should settle on that style. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 08:44:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17381; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:43:39 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA16684; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:36:23 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1600xQ-00069R-00; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 22:35:32 +0900 To: xemacs@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, ben@xemacs.org Reply-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, ben@xemacs.org Subject: Re: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 03 Nov 2001 22:35:32 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87d730rn8b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 64 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , [Ben: live-icon doesn't work. Can you take a quick look and see if there's anything obvious? Recipe below.] Thanks for the followups. >>>>> "Dan" == Dan Espen writes: Dan> live-icon doesn't work with fvwm2, twm, and dtwm. Thats all Dan> the wm's I have. It used to work with all of them. Thank you. Dan> I also tried this: [...] And got this: (omitted) Dan> I noticed that the ":file" stuff is still in the glyph and Dan> "xemacs-icon.xpm" is the icon I see. Yep. Dan> The data from live-icon doesn't seem to be there... Well, you _can_ see the color specs (chartreuse is _not_ in the default icon!!) and the :data is in the ellipsis. In *scratch*, I did ;;; Ben, this demonstrates the bug (specifier-instance (glyph-image frame-icon-glyph)) # "xemacs-icon.xpm" 48x48x24 (0x800031) 0x1b0b> (require 'live-icon) (live-icon-one-frame) (specifier-instance (glyph-image frame-icon-glyph)) # "xemacs-icon.xpm" 48x48x24 (0x800031) 0x1b0b> (specifier-specs (glyph-image frame-icon-glyph) 'all) I've removed all the output except from "specifier-instance" which confirms your report at the Lisp level. If you do the same, you'll see the data. What appears to be happening is that having multiple options that specify data in the same spec doesn't give an error, but instead picks one arbitrarily. So what live-icon should be doing is clearing out the spec somehow, then adding the new spec. Why this is not happening, I don't know yet. The default behavior for specifiers is "remove existing specs for the tagset and prepend to the list", which seems sensible. I'm copying xemacs-beta@xemacs.org and Ben, where something might get done about this. If you're not on xemacs-beta and don't need to be otherwise, you can follow the thread with at most 24 hours lag by going to http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta and searching for "live-icon". -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 12:00:53 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00567; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:00:10 -0500 Received: from zabor.mo.msk.ru (ns3.protection.ru [195.170.194.222] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00486 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:59:44 -0500 Received: from d-fens.vdata.ru (d-fens.vdata.ru [192.168.168.62]) by zabor.mo.msk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA44483 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 19:59:31 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from gin@mo.msk.ru) Received: (gin@localhost) by d-fens.vdata.ru (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id QAA14456; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:59:45 GMT Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 16:59:45 (GMT) Message-ID: <02583be4228046-gin@mo.msk.ru> From: "Golubev I. N." Subject: 8bit header text To: Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , tm-1.29 mime editor is broken wrt earlier (bundled with xemacs-19.16) version. Earlier ones would convert 8bit text in message headers to mime encoded words. All I would set is default-mime-charset, everything else has default values. With tm-1.29 this does not work, header text remains intact after C-c C-x C-z. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 13:10:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03970; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:10:08 -0500 Received: from zabor.mo.msk.ru (ns3.protection.ru [195.170.194.222] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03926 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:09:32 -0500 Received: from d-fens.vdata.ru (d-fens.vdata.ru [192.168.168.62]) by zabor.mo.msk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA45061 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:09:29 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from gin@mo.msk.ru) Received: (gin@localhost) by d-fens.vdata.ru (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id SAA18727; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:09:43 GMT Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 18:09:42 (GMT) Message-ID: <02583be432e616-gin@mo.msk.ru> From: "Golubev I. N." To: Subject: tm & gnus Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , What was really meant by stating description "Emacs MIME support. Not needed for gnus >= 5.8.0" for tm in `package-index.LATEST.pgp'? It is unlikely that gnus itself, without using tm, is able to create full featured (multipart, with specified encodings and so on) MIME messages. It looks to me that currently gnus can only create single-part text/plain messages and create encoded words in message headers for some fixed set of charsets. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 13:29:11 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04952; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:29:02 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04936; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:28:48 -0500 Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1605X9-0003lA-08; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 19:28:43 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.1.12]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1605Wz-1X7XuqC; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 19:28:33 +0100 To: "Golubev I. N." Cc: Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <02583be432e616-gin@mo.msk.ru> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Golubev" == Golubev I N writes: Golubev> What was really meant by stating Golubev> description "Emacs MIME support. Not needed for gnus Golubev> >= 5.8.0" Golubev> for tm in `package-index.LATEST.pgp'? It is unlikely Golubev> that gnus itself, without using tm, is able to create Golubev> full featured (multipart, with specified encodings and so Golubev> on) MIME messages. It looks to me that currently gnus I am using Gnus without TM. gnus-version "Gnus v5.8.8" It works fine for me. Golubev> can only create single-part text/plain messages and I have created attachments with content-type application/octet-stream with it. I haven't missed anything since I started using Gnus >= 5.8.0 without TM. If you let me know what feature you're looking for I could try it out for you in my installation. Best regards, Adrian Golubev> create encoded words in message headers for some fixed Golubev> set of charsets. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 13:52:19 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06099; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:52:06 -0500 Received: from cinnamon.vanillaknot.com (MESQUITE.SLIP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.207.11]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06069 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:51:19 -0500 Received: (from karl@localhost) by cinnamon.vanillaknot.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id fA3IpXv29337; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:51:33 -0500 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: tm & gnus Keywords: gnus,mime,info,emacs-mime References: <02583be432e616-gin@mo.msk.ru> X-Face: ?=p^Gj2JkX~UU_@W}[q/'Dxn19x-zfIQ](y<&ky/?1-&Nz&,!W}R.Gp+"LeGojoR =RF>?!XVs{a:`Yt(gqM<#$Zy(C@]'dR4Hy4S1.I(n3:2"R:=Uy!)K9>U!gNTyH{p +_w#F[gt).$Vyvo5=9LF^PeQ(@H#}QLAbfyYxX/8t:TDR5nA\|RmJO"EwjL8tWyvM From: Karl Kleinpaste Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:51:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <02583be432e616-gin@mo.msk.ru> ("Golubev I. N."'s message of "Sat, 03 Nov 2001 18:09:42 (GMT)") Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Golubev I. N." writes: > What was really meant by stating > description "Emacs MIME support. Not needed for gnus >= 5.8.0" > for tm in `package-index.LATEST.pgp'? As of 5.8, Gnus gained full native MIME comprehension. TM conflicts with Gnus 5.8 and later. > It is unlikely that gnus itself, without using tm, is able to create > full featured (multipart, with specified encodings and so on) MIME > messages. It looks to me that currently gnus can only create > single-part text/plain messages and create encoded words in message > headers for some fixed set of charsets. No. Gnus can create and interpret pretty much any MIME packaging you wish. It uses an internal system known as "mml" ("MIME markup language", I believe), providing a reasonable way of introducing additional and alternative parts, including multiparts. During composition in a *Messge* buffer, see the Attachments menubar pulldown, and read the Emacs-MIME info area (*Info* -> Emacs-MIME or, in very recent alpha Gnus ["Oort"], info://Emacs-MIME/ [that quasi-URL can be clicked directly in recent Oort Gnus]). Note also the keymap under `C-c C-m'. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 15:17:35 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13726; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:17:07 -0500 Received: from fermat.mts.jhu.edu (fermat.mts.jhu.edu [128.220.17.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13621; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:16:10 -0500 Received: (from nevin@localhost) by fermat.mts.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fA3KGAa12143; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:16:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: fermat.mts.jhu.edu: nevin set sender to nevin@jhu.edu using -f To: Adrian Aichner Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: cvs down References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zo67m058.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1004717678.1787.5.camel@bombay.dyndns.org> X-Face: H~?ZI_L2!bGIrH^iC0e8t85[S`lwpP_/-sOvkGnN[\)[S";}xM3[Ib!ljz-80yK9SIf9sz6/DcY?yKUq1=-&XdrLjA^wK1 From: Nevin Kapur In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "Fri, 02 Nov 2001 18:19:30 +0100") Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 15:16:10 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: >>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: > > Hi Nevin, > > OXYMORON,v on tanko and on sunsite.dk are identical now. > > please do a > cvs update > in /usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4 > and then try > cvs -n -q update | grep "^[A-Z] " > again. > > I hope this will clear up things. > > Please do report back. Yes, that seems to have worked. The cvs update did a whole bunch of merges and a subsequent update indicates that I am updated with the release-21-4 tag, as I wanted. ,---- | ( 3:13PM) bombay[/usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4]% cvs -n -q update | grep "^[A-Z] " | ( 3:13PM) bombay[/usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4]% `---- Thanks for your help. > > Best regards, > > Adrian > -- Nevin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 15:27:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14778; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:27:01 -0500 Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14687; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:26:12 -0500 Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1607Mp-0002sl-0B; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 21:26:11 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.1.12]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1607Mm-1treiGC; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:26:08 +0100 To: Nevin Kapur Cc: Adrian Aichner , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: cvs down References: <185746964.20011018220840@rz-online.de> <87g08gcm82.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zo67m058.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1004717678.1787.5.camel@bombay.dyndns.org> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 56 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: Nevin> Adrian Aichner writes: >>>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: >> >> Hi Nevin, >> >> OXYMORON,v on tanko and on sunsite.dk are identical now. >> >> please do a >> cvs update >> in /usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4 >> and then try >> cvs -n -q update | grep "^[A-Z] " >> again. >> >> I hope this will clear up things. >> >> Please do report back. Nevin> Yes, that seems to have worked. The cvs update did a whole Nevin> bunch of merges and a subsequent update indicates that I am Nevin> updated with the release-21-4 tag, as I wanted. Great! My initial instructions to just do cvs -n -q update were wrong, because we need to really (no -n) update from the repository. I'm glad rsync to SunSITE.dk works now. Thanks go the Stephen for helping me to debug this! Nevin> ,---- Nevin> | ( 3:13PM) bombay[/usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4]% cvs -n -q update | grep "^[A-Z] " Nevin> | ( 3:13PM) bombay[/usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4]% Nevin> `---- Nevin> Thanks for your help. I thank you for your help! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Adrian >> Nevin> -- Nevin> Nevin -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 17:36:44 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA27260; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:36:03 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA27201 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:35:23 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fA3MZK612432 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ashbury.weblogic.com (ashbury.beasys.com [172.17.8.3]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA23539 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from paston.beasys.com ([192.168.6.171]) by ashbury.weblogic.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53833U200L200S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:00:49 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:28:51 +0000 Message-ID: <5229-Sat03Nov2001222851+0000-paston@bea.com> X-Mailer: 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 10 Q) From: "Philip Aston" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: JDE bug in jde-build-classpath Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! [Don't know whether this should go directly to JDE team or not, please enlighten me....] The latest JDE package introduces a bug in jde-build-classpath: ;;; (if (symbolp paths) (setq symbol paths paths (symbol-value symbol))) (mapconcat (lambda (path) (jde-normalize-path path symbol)) (jde-expand-classpath (mapcar (lambda (path) (jde-normalize-path path symbol)) paths)) ;;; Note normalisation occurs twice. This means that (setq jde-cygwin-path-converter '(jde-cygwin-path-converter-cygpath)) (jde-build-classpath '("/;/")) => (jde-build-classpath '("/;/")) (which works nicely with my cygwin aware jikes, but is a pretty sick normalisation), but (setq jde-cygwin-path-converter '(jde-cygwin-path-converter-cygpath)) (jde-build-classpath '("/:/")) => /work/src/grinder3/d:\cygwin;d:\cygwin which is clearly broken. Replicated under -vanilla. Regards, - Phil ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-4.0 PASTON 1.3.3(0.46/3/2) 2001-09-12 23:54 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--site-includes=/usr/include/w32api' '--with-x11=no' '--site-includes=/usr/include/noX' '--site-libraries=/usr/lib/noX' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/src/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Additional header files: /usr/include/noX Additional libraries: /usr/lib/noX Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare -Wpointer-arith Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. Using MS-Windows menubars. Using MS-Windows scrollbars. Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. Using MS-Windows native widgets. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 3 19:20:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03738; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 19:20:07 -0500 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03638 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 19:19:21 -0500 Received: from tokamak.dtdns.net (we-24-127-70-176.we.mediaone.net [24.127.70.176]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id fA40ImB08618 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:18:52 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "s. champ" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: gtk-color-selection : how do i convert these floating-point values? Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:19:12 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01110316191201.12778@tokamak.dtdns.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi. xemacs + gtk is a really good thing. i was trying to make a generic GTK-based color-selector for use with psgml-html, but i got hung-up at trying to figure out how to convert the return-values of gtk-color-selection-get-color to RGB hex -- #ffffff or so -- and was hoping that someone on this list would have some suggestions about it. the test case: in the gtk color-selection-dialog window, these are the values shown for hue, saturation, value, red, green, and blue: H: 221.04 S: 1.00 V: 1.00 R: 0.00 G: 0.32 ( xmag shows #x50 for this color component, 80 in decimal ) B: 1.00 ( xmag shows #xFF for this , 255 in decimal ) and this is the return value from a gtk-color-selection-get-color on the colorsel in that window: (1.257249826960619e-269 -1.992481946943558 3.713488760714563e-314 1.135730676382305e-268) how can any of those first three elts be converted into an integer no greater than 255, one which would match the given color component? -1.992481946943558 =[??]=> 80 ?? here's the code i was using to get that return-value., note that these functions don't do anything to destroy the color-selection window. i haven't got that far into the gtk of it, yet. (defun egtk-close-window (&rest ignore) (gtk-main-quit) t) (defun egtk-read-color (default-color &optional window-title) (let ((color-dialog (gtk-color-selection-dialog-new (or window-title "color")))) (gtk-signal-connect color-dialog "delete_event" #'egtk-close-window) (gtk-signal-connect color-dialog "destroy" #'egtk-close-window) (gtk-signal-connect (gtk-color-selection-dialog-ok-button color-dialog) "clicked" #'egtk-close-window) (gtk-signal-connect (gtk-color-selection-dialog-cancel-button color-dialog) "clicked" #'egtk-close-window) (gtk-widget-show color-dialog) (gtk-main) (gtk-color-selection-get-color (gtk-color-selection-dialog-colorsel color-dialog)))) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 4 18:36:45 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09864; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:35:38 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09811 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:34:14 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160WlD-0007V8-00; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 08:33:03 +0900 To: "Golubev I. N." Cc: Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <02583be432e616-gin@mo.msk.ru> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 05 Nov 2001 08:33:02 +0900 In-Reply-To: <02583be432e616-gin@mo.msk.ru> Message-ID: <87k7x6qfgx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Golubev" == Golubev I N writes: Golubev> What was really meant by stating Golubev> description "Emacs MIME support. Not needed for gnus >= 5.8.0" "tm is bad news, bad mail, bad MIME, bad Lisp, deprecated, please avoid it." Restated politely. It's actually pretty stable and usable now, but it does insinuate itself into Emacs in an irreversible way and is definitely orphaned by its author. It is bug-prone when the Emacs environment changes. Golubev> It is unlikely that gnus itself, without using tm, is Golubev> able to create full featured (multipart, with specified Golubev> encodings and so on) MIME messages. Sadly, this is false. None of the add-on MIME packages ever got out of beta, really. Before SEMI, the author of tm and later SEMI regularly sent out broken MIME using tm, and his colleagues at the Mule lab didn't use it. He then abandoned tm to develop SEMI, with the same historical pattern. So most of the major Emacs MUAs (Gnus and VM, at least, I think Mew as well) do their own MIME now, and have done so for years. Gnus 5.8.8 does better than VM 6.9x in many areas (for example, Gnus MIME-encodes headers, VM doesn't), but both do all of the necessary decoding and provide hooks for external viewers, and will encode bodies and create attachments. Gnus does at least attempt to distribute MML as a separate package within a package, but I doubt that either Kyle or the Japanese MUA authors will pick it up very soon. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 4 18:50:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10527; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:50:04 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10497 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:49:54 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160X05-0007VN-00; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 08:48:25 +0900 To: "Philip Aston" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: JDE bug in jde-build-classpath References: <5229-Sat03Nov2001222851+0000-paston@bea.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 05 Nov 2001 08:48:25 +0900 In-Reply-To: <5229-Sat03Nov2001222851+0000-paston@bea.com> Message-ID: <87g07uqera.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Philip" == Philip Aston writes: Philip> [Don't know whether this should go directly to JDE team or Philip> not, please enlighten me....] If you believe it's purely a JDE bug, send it to them, only, with a couple of exceptions. All XEmacs packages have @xemacs.org aliases of the following form: $package-bugs, $package-discuss, $package-patches, $package-maintainer. Here, the relevant alias is jde-bugs@xemacs.org. For your convenience, these aliases get redirected appropriately, in this case to jde@sunsite.auc.dk. Many packages have no maintainer of record, so they go to xemacs-beta at the moment. This will eventually change to a real xemacs-bugs address. The exceptions are (1) if you believe that it's an XEmacs incompatibility, in which case we should know about it too. We have to negotiate these with the upstream maintainers and the GNU Emacs maintainers. This case might fit that (if jde-normalize-path just wraps XEmacs functions to do the real work). When in doubt send to both. And (2) if it's a real showstopper, in which case XEmacs might make a change to our package before a release of an official fix. However, upstream maintainers really hate this, so it's pretty rare. On a few occasions where you can show it's clearly an XEmacs bug, but was originally triggered in the context of a package, you may wish to send a courtesy copy to the package maintainers so that they are aware of your analysis in case they get reports of the bug. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 4 21:39:46 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA19248; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 21:39:11 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA19219 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 21:38:22 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160Zdf-0007a5-00; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 11:37:27 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Trouble with Prolog.el References: <20d8utoso2cfgleh8f6ccvmerkqq7uvoop@4ax.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 05 Nov 2001 11:37:27 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20d8utoso2cfgleh8f6ccvmerkqq7uvoop@4ax.com> Message-ID: <87ady2q6xk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id VAA19219 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Forwarding to xemacs-beta for attention from developers. Any ideas, anyone? >>>>> "Fernando" == Fernando Rodríguez writes: On 04 Nov 2001 00:57:37 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: >> report-xemacs-bug RET (gives lots of information automatically) >> and Fernando> Doesn't work.. Oops. For the future, (a) update the net-utils package or (b) try M-x report-emacs-bug RET (the old name for that function; I don't know why this was changed, I wish it hadn't). >>>>>>> "Fernando" == Fernando Rodríguez >>>>>>> writes: Fernando> I've been trying to use the prolog mode from 'Milan Fernando> Zamazal' (found at Fernando> http://www.loria.fr/~stuber/prolog/prolog.el) with Fernando> XEmacs on windows. Unfortunately, everytime I try to Fernando> load a prolog file, XEmacs seems to get into an infinite Fernando> loop while trying to syntax highlight it and has to be Fernando> killed... >> What version of XEmacs, exactly? Preferably use M-x Fernando> Version 21.1 on Win32 Maybe try 21.4? Windows platform has had a lot of improvements in 21.4. I haven't had time to try to replicate yet. >include/attach the shortest Prolog file you have that you know >produces the misbehavior. A file with this content will crash XEmacs: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- crash_xemacs( prolog ). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks :-) ---- Fernando Rodríguez frr@wanadoo.es -- Fernando Rodríguez frr at wanadoo dot es -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 4 22:13:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA20956; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:13:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA20802 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:09:31 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160a7s-0000VW-00; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 12:08:40 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [comp.emacs.xemacs] XEmacs-21.4.{4,5} crashes in windowed mode Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 05 Nov 2001 12:08:40 +0900 Message-ID: <871yjdrk1z.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 189 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Path: hagi.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp!nadesico.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp!news-sv.sinet!news.kanazawa-u.ac.jp!news1!toyama-ix.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news4.rdc1.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Sender: ssahmed@zeus Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: XEmacs-21.4.{4,5} crashes in windowed mode From: ssahmed@nospam.pathcom.com X-No-Archive: Yes X-Operating-System: Linux zeus 2.4.10 i686 Message-ID: <87y9lntpyf.fsf@pathcom.com> Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 21:56:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.43.121.67 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news4.rdc1.on.home.com 1004824611 24.43.121.67 (Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:56:51 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:56:51 PST Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: hagi.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp comp.emacs.xemacs:14343 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===-=-=" --===-=-= XEmacs-21.4.{4,5} compiled from sources on a Debian GNU/Linux "sid"/unstable system using gcc-2.95.4: - crashes when running under X-Windows - works ok if started up in non-windowed mode (ie xemacs -nw) Lisp backtrace follows: # bind (frame-being-created) make-frame(nil #) frame-initialize() # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) command-line() # (unwind-protect ...) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Segmentation fault Exit 139 I've attached a backtrace of running XEmacs in gdb, as well installation info (M-x describe-installation-info). XEmacs was compiled from sources using gcc-2.95.4 with XFree-4.1.0. I am currently using Debian's official XEmacs-21.4.4 packages which do not exhibit any such problems, but would really like to get back to using my own rolled-from-sources XEmacs. --===-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=xemacs-gdb-bt Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: gdb back trace Script started on Sat Nov 3 17:59:23 2001 Tout choses sont dites deja, mais comme personne n'ecoute, il faut toujours recommencer. -- A. Gide You have mail. ssahmed logged on local::0 at 1:56am ssahmed logged on :0:pts/0 at 1:56am ssahmed logged on :0.0:pts/1 at 1:56am ssahmed logged on matrix:pts/2 at 12:00am ssahmed logged on :0.0:pts/3 at 5:49pm ssahmed logged on :0.0:pts/4 at 12:44am @=1B[1mzeus:[/backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5] =1B[m=0Fcd src/ @=1B[1mzeus:[/backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src] =1B[m=0Fgdb xemacs=20 GNU gdb 5.0.90-cvs (MI_OUT) Copyright 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition= s. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-linux"... (gdb) run Starting program: /backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs=20 Better hope you get what you want before you stop wanting it. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x40227388 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x40227388 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #1 0x402276bb in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #2 0x40227876 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #3 0x40228154 in _XtCreatePopupShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #4 0x402281e5 in XtCreatePopupShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #5 0x081700f8 in x_create_widgets (f=3D0x8469480, lisp_window_id=3D1363249= 64, parent=3D136324964) at frame-x.c:1957 #6 0x08170704 in x_init_frame_1 (f=3D0x8469480, props=3D136324964) at fram= e-x.c:2184 #7 0x080f874d in Fmake_frame (props=3D136324964, device=3D138290840) at fr= ame.c:395 #8 0x080aea9a in Ffuncall (nargs=3D3, args=3D0xbffff1d8) at eval.c:3528 #9 0x0808b457 in execute_optimized_program ( program=3D0x8469368 "=C6 \210=C7 ?=AD&=C8\f=C9 \"=AC\027=CA\r\013\"\022= =CB\r=C8\t=CC \"@\"\211\020\026\020=CD\r!\025=CE\016\021!\210=CF\211\024\20= 7", stack_depth=3D5, constants_data=3D0x82986c0) at bytecode.c:746 #10 0x0808b15f in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D137199832, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbffff31c) at bytecode.c:515 #11 0x080aec37 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D1, args=3D0xbffff318) at eval.c:3563 #12 0x0808b457 in execute_optimized_program ( program=3D0x83e1f70 "\013A\035=C6=C7\032\031=C8\r!\025\b=C9a=AB\004=CA = \210=CB=CC!=AB\004=CD \210\f=AB\017\016\035=AC\013=CE=CF=D0\f!=D1Q! \210=D2= \210*=D3 \210=D4 \210r=D5=D6!q\210=D7 \210=D8=D9!\210\016!=DAa=AB\005\016\= " \210)=DB =DCa=AB\b=DD =AC\004=DE \210=DF \210=D9\026#=DD =AD\004=E0=C7!)\= 207moA\001", stack_depth=3D4, constants_data=3D0x832a4a0) at bytecode.c:746 #13 0x0808b15f in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D137517364, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbffff45c) at bytecode.c:515 #14 0x080aec37 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D1, args=3D0xbffff458) at eval.c:3563 #15 0x0808b457 in execute_optimized_program ( program=3D0x82542a8 "\t=AB\005=C6=C7!\207=C8\021=C9 \211\034=AB\025\fG\= rGW=AB\016=CA\r!=CA\f!k=AB\005=CB\f!\025)=CC\r!\025=CD \210=CE \210\013=AE\= a=CF=D0!=AD\002=C8\e=D1\016#\016$\"\022\013=AB\t=D2=D3=D4\n\"=D5\"\210\n=AC= \004=D6 \210=D7\n\016%\b\016&\013%\210=D8 \210)\016!=AC\022\016\"=AB\016=D9= =DA=DB\016'!\016\"\"=DC=C8#\210\016!=AC\023\b=AC\006=DD\016(!\210=DD\016)!\= 210=DD\016*!\210=DE\216=DF \210)\016+=AD\003=E0 \207 \b,C%\b=A1", stack_dep= th=3D7, constants_data=3D0x832a2e0) at bytecode.c:746 #16 0x0808b15f in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D137517308, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbffff504) at bytecode.c:515 #17 0x080ae3c2 in Feval (form=3D137482848) at eval.c:3388 #18 0x080b43be in condition_case_1 (handlers=3D136325060, bfun=3D0x80adaa0 = , barg=3D137482848,=20 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- hfun=3D0x80935ec , harg=3D136324964) at eval.c:1651 #19 0x08093673 in top_level_1 (dummy=3D136324964) at cmdloop.c:206 #20 0x080b428c in internal_catch (tag=3D136401060, func=3D0x8093644 , arg=3D136324964, threw=3D0x0) at eval.c:1317 #21 0x08092f86 in initial_command_loop (load_me=3D136324964) at cmdloop.c:2= 85 #22 0x080a8943 in xemacs_21_4_5_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2353 #23 0x080aa532 in main () at emacs.c:2782 #24 0x4049d65f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) quit The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) y @=1B[1mzeus:[/backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src] =1B[m=0Fexit Script done on Sat Nov 3 17:59:33 2001 --===-=-= Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=xemacs-installation-info Content-Description: xemacs installation info uname -a: Linux zeus 2.4.10 #1 Tue Sep 25 14:24:06 EST 2001 i686 unknown ./configure XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. --===-=-= Thanks. -- Salman Ahmed To reply, remove "nospam." from my email address ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com --===-=-=-- --=-=-= -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 4 23:30:45 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA24850; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:30:14 -0500 Received: from mail8.wi.rr.com (mkc-162-176.kc.rr.com [24.94.162.176]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA24755 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:28:59 -0500 Received: from localhost ([65.31.188.114]) by mail8.wi.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:28:44 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:32:30 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Cc: dchen@mcw.edu To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Dan Chen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1FCBC39B-D1A6-11D5-90E4-00039315FBFC@mcw.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Subject: (no subject) Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I built the xemacs in my PowerBook with Mac OS X 10.1 (Darwin 1.4) and XFree86 4.0.3 from xemacs-21.5.3 source recently. The build process was going very smooth and I can start xemacs now. But when I clicked on the "Open" to open file, a dialog opened and closed immediately, automatically and an error "Symbol's function definition is void: make annotation" shown in the status bar. Is it a bug? How can I fix it? Thanks. Dan Chen Bioinformatics Research Center Medical College of Wisconsin 8701 Watertown Plank Road Milwaukee, WI 53226 Tel: (414)456-8839 Fax: (414)456-6595 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 4 23:34:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25093; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:34:01 -0500 Received: from mail2.wi.rr.com (fe2.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.49]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA24891 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:30:51 -0500 Received: from localhost ([65.31.188.114]) by mail2.wi.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:30:24 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:34:23 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Symbol's function definition is void:make annotation in Max OS X From: Dan Chen To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <63043796-D1A6-11D5-90E4-00039315FBFC@mcw.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Begin forwarded message: > From: Dan Chen > Date: Sun Nov 04, 2001 10:32:30 PM US/Central > To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > Cc: dchen@mcw.edu > Subject: > > I built the xemacs in my PowerBook with Mac OS X 10.1 (Darwin 1.4) and > XFree86 4.0.3 from xemacs-21.5.3 source recently. The build process > was going very smooth and I can start xemacs now. But when I clicked on > the "Open" to open file, a dialog opened and closed immediately, > automatically and an error "Symbol's function definition is void: make > annotation" shown in the status bar. Is it a bug? How can I fix it? > Thanks. > Dan Chen Bioinformatics Research Center Medical College of Wisconsin 8701 Watertown Plank Road Milwaukee, WI 53226 Tel: (414)456-8839 Fax: (414)456-6595 > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 4 23:55:11 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA26583; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:55:07 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA26547 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:54:35 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160blM-0000Ym-00; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 13:53:32 +0900 To: "s. champ" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gtk-color-selection : how do i convert these floating-point values? References: <01110316191201.12778@tokamak.dtdns.net> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 05 Nov 2001 13:53:31 +0900 In-Reply-To: <01110316191201.12778@tokamak.dtdns.net> Message-ID: <87wv15q0ms.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "s" == s champ writes: s> i was trying to make a generic GTK-based color-selector for use s> with psgml-html, but i got hung-up at trying to figure out how s> to convert the return-values of gtk-color-selection-get-color s> to RGB hex -- #ffffff or so -- and was hoping that someone on s> this list would have some suggestions about it. This looks like a bug in XEmacs/GTK to me. The numbers you report look a lot more like the result of doing a format "%f" on an int than something the color selector would report. Look at the XEmacs/GTK source. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 00:01:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA26996; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 00:01:20 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA26904 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 00:00:39 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160brK-0000Yx-00; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 13:59:42 +0900 To: Dan Chen Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Symbol's function definition is void:make annotation in Max OS X References: <63043796-D1A6-11D5-90E4-00039315FBFC@mcw.edu> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 05 Nov 2001 13:59:42 +0900 In-Reply-To: <63043796-D1A6-11D5-90E4-00039315FBFC@mcw.edu> Message-ID: <87snbtq0ch.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Dan" == Dan Chen writes: >> immediately, automatically and an error "Symbol's function >> definition is void: make annotation" shown in the status bar. >> Is it a bug? How can I fix it? No. You're missing the annotations library, which is found in the xemacs-base package. You need to install that. You also probably want to install several other packages. See README.packages and the etc/PACKAGES file (the content of these is also available in the info topic XEmacs | Packages, but you may not be able to get that far). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 05:46:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA15431; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 05:45:19 -0500 Received: from pm1.contactor.se (gw.contactor.se [193.15.23.130]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA09829; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 05:25:15 -0500 Received: from c213-89-177-36.cm-upc.chello.se (pm1 [193.15.23.1]) by pm1.contactor.se (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09436; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:25:10 +0100 (MET) To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner), stephen@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Tutorial out of date? References: From: Mats Lidell Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 11:26:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de's message of "01 Nov 2001 20:14:00 +0100") Message-ID: Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: APA> What TUTORIAL version exactly have you based your translation on? If you mean what language: I started of with the Norwegian version, with some search-and-replace to make it look more Swedish, but I have also used the English version to get it right. If you mean what version of XEmacs: I'm not quite sure. I have been using the tutorials coming from both the 21.4 and the 21.5 of XEmacs and I don't remember what versions i started from etc. I haven't notified any differences going back and forth between the versions anyway. APA> Be aware that it will be simple to get the new TUTORIAL accepted for APA> 21.5, but 21.1 has been released and it is unclear when/if there will APA> be another release. Gamma release 21.4 is about to be accepted to APA> become the current stable version. A Swedish tutorial will sure be a APA> valuable addition for this release, but Stephen Turnbull will have to APA> approve this. Stephen> Docs are always welcome. It would be nice to have a second Stephen> opinion on it before you submit it. I have submitted it to Björn for proofreading. I'll submit it after I get feedback from him. I'm sure others will have views on it when exposed to the public and isn't that a convenient way to fix it? It isn't code so it will hardly break something if included. APA> Current behavior in which version of XEmacs? I thought = "C-d" was default from at least 21.4? The tutorial in 21.5 says "You can delete the last character you typed by typing ." Yours -- %% Mats From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 06:16:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA25202; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 06:16:02 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA19453; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:46:01 -0500 Received: from radiance.Stanford.EDU (radiance.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.222]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA19414 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:45:07 -0500 Received: (from mmp@localhost) by radiance.Stanford.EDU (8.9.0/8.9.0) id UAA385684; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 20:44:59 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: radiance.Stanford.EDU: mmp set sender to mmp@exluna.com using -f To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: core dump in 21.4 (patch5) when trying to run recent version of gnus X-Face: C!.oGaE]n@p)VF9Ss3]f'|<)kRrtpG)^^b^X-3_zhUHp\jBj29jaoTItqWR>mHa+v-{/!jx7OA@!cV0>Fm-b:zEL<`oOXG[BFQ\ Date: 01 Nov 2001 20:44:59 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 251 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Lisp backtrace follows: # bind (form) gnus-byte-compile((lambda (file orig-file) (nnmail-split-incoming file (quote nnml-save-mail) (quote nil) (if ... nil ...) (quote nnml-active-number)))) # bind (source incomings incoming total new i group-in fetching-sources source s spool-func group temp exit-func method) nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "/home/mmp/mail/nnml/" nil) # bind (server group) nnml-request-scan(nil "") # bind (gnus-command-method gnus-inhibit-demon mail-source-plugged gnus-comman d-method group) gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml "")) # bind (where mesg force method) gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil) # (condition-case ... . ((quit (message "Quit reading the active file")))) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (methods method not-native force) gnus-read-active-file(nil nil) # bind (init nnmail-fetched-sources dont-connect level rawfile) gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) byte-code("..." [gnus-slave gnus-current-startup-file gnus-startup-file did-co nnect level dont-connect gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-m ake-newsrc-file gnus-dribble-read-file bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-setup-news nil gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-s etup gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook gnus-use-dribble-file gnus-use -grouplens] 4) # bind (level did-connect slave dont-connect arg) gnus-1(nil nil nil) # bind (slave dont-connect arg) gnus(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(gnus) command-execute(gnus t) # bind (_execute_command_keys_ _execute_command_name_ prefix-arg) execute-extended-command(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(execute-extended-command) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) zsh: 1461 abort (core dumped) xemacs Stack trace ----------- #0 0x40133d11 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x0809d690 in fatal_error_signal (sig=6) at emacs.c:539 #2 0x40133b68 in killpg () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0x40135143 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 #4 0x0809fb65 in assert_failed (file=0x815ca88 "bytecode.c", line=1477, expr=0x815ca80 "abort()") at emacs.c:3314 #5 0x080804f5 in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=0xbfffd5f4, program_ptr=0x86c77a0 "\024%\034\b)", opcode=0) at bytecode.c:1477 #6 0x0807f33c in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x86c7790 "ôT\037\b¼`q\bt`q\b\003", stack_depth=3, constants_data=0x8538488) at bytecode.c:656 #7 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139127324, nargs=1, args=0xbfffd760) at bytecode.c:515 #8 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffd75c) at eval.c:3563 #9 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x86c6330 "\016>®\r\0168<«\005\0168ª\004\0168C\031Æ\e\0169\036?Ç\211 \036:\036;Ç\032Æ\211\036@\036AÆ\035ÈÉ\f\"\203\203", stack_depth=17, constants_data=0x866a300) at bytecode.c:746 #10 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=140848008, nargs=4, args=0xbfffd8f8) at bytecode.c:515 #11 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=5, args=0xbfffd8f4) at eval.c:3563 #12 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x81dee18 "Ä\022Å\013\t\"\210ÆÇÈ\b\013$\207 @(", stack_depth=5, constants_data=0x81dee40) at bytecode.c:746 #13 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=141301428, nargs=2, args=0xbfffda68) at bytecode.c:515 #14 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffda64) at eval.c:3563 #15 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x86c62a0 "\f«\006Æ\f!ª\002\rÇ\n\031\030\035\n¬\aÈ\r!?­\035É\rÊ\"\f­ \022\f\eËÌ\013\"«\b\013Í\225ÎOª\002\013)\rA@\"+\207", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x858b560) at bytecode.c:746 #16 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139955512, nargs=2, args=0xbfffdbd8) at bytecode.c:515 #17 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffdbd4) at eval.c:3563 #18 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x86467d0 "Æ\211\0366\0367\rA@\0267ÇÈ\0167«\016\0167GÉU¬\aÊ\0167Pª\0 02Ë\r@#\0266ÌÍ\0166\"\210Î\r!\205Ñ\002Ï\r@\034\036>ÆÐÑ\217*«\006ÒÆ\r\"\210\016CÓ a\203\204\002Ô\r@\034\036>ÆÕÖ\217*\203v\002\016D\204q\002\016EAÆ\r\035\034\r;«\0 06×\r!ª\\\r\0162k«\005\0162ªR\r@;«\n\f«\aØ\f\r\"ªD\r«\016\f¬\013\rA@Ëk«\004\rª4\ r\035Ù\r@!\031ÚÛ\t\0169\"s«\"Ü\tÝP!\r·¬\031Þ\r@\0169·s«\020ß\rÜ\tÝP!\rA@DC\"ª\00 2\r**"..., stack_depth=7, constants_data=0x861dd30) at bytecode.c:746 #19 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139750212, nargs=2, args=0xbfffdca0) at bytecode.c:515 #20 0x080a3124 in Feval (form=139387668) at eval.c:3388 #21 0x080a0dfe in condition_case_1 (handlers=138385408, bfun=0x80a2910 , barg=139387668, hfun=0x80a0e50 , harg=135981588) at eval.c:1651 #22 0x080a1135 in condition_case_3 (bodyform=139387668, var=135981588, handlers=138385408) at eval.c:1732 #23 0x080800fc in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=0xbfffdf8c, program_ptr=0x86373b0 "\210ªÜ+\207-functi\001\b", opcode=Bcondition_case) at bytecode.c:1271 #24 0x0807f33c in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8637368 "Æ \210ÇÈÉ\t¬\013Ê\013!«\006\013\nBª\002\nË ­\003ÌC\"\"Í\0 35\034Í\020\212\016\021q\210\f\211A\024@\211\025­\035\r\f¶¬ó\016\022¬\005\016\02 3«\tÎ\r\016\024\"\210ªãÍÏÐ\217\210ªÜ+\207-functi\001\b", stack_depth=5, constants_data=0x8464aa0) at bytecode.c:656 #25 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139750184, nargs=2, args=0xbfffe0f8) at bytecode.c:515 #26 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffe0f4) at eval.c:3563 #27 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8650e80 "ÆÇ!\210\016(­\a\n­\004\016)??ÈC\036,\211\e«\013É\211\026( \022Ê\016)!\210\016-«!ËÌ\t\"¬\eÌÍÌÎÏ\016*Ì\"DÐÏ\016*Ñ\"DÒBBBBB\tB\021\r«\006\rÓa «\004Ô \210\r«\t\f¬\006ÅÉ\b\"\210\n¬\005ÕÖ!\022\016.«\004× \210\013«\f\016/¬\005 \016'«\004Ø \210\013«\b\016'«\004Ù \210Ú \210ÛÜ!«\036\016\034;«\031É\0360ÝÞ\016\ 034\")«\016\0161¬\n\b¬\a\r«\004ß \210\013«\031\0162«\025\f¬\022à\016+!«\f\016'¬\ b\0163«\004á \210\013«\024\016#«\020"..., stack_depth=9, constants_data=0x853f040) at bytecode.c:746 #28 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139760136, nargs=3, args=0xbfffe278) at bytecode.c:515 #29 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=4, args=0xbfffe274) at eval.c:3563 #30 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0xbfffe2f0 "\r¬\t\013¬\006Æ \210ª>ÇÈ!\210É\n!\021\b¬\005\016\031«\00 4Ê \210\016\032«\tË \210ÌÍÎ\"\210ÏÐ\f\r#\210ÇÑ!\210Ò \210Ó\f!\210Ô \210ÕÖ!\210× \210ÇØ!\210Ð\207ÿ¿x8\n\b´\212W\b\001", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x85a1b98) at bytecode.c:746 #31 0x08081753 in Fbyte_code (instructions=138754612, constants=140123016, stack_depth=9) at bytecode.c:2405 #32 0x080a2f01 in Feval (form=139328128) at eval.c:3331 #33 0x080a742d in Fprogn (args=139327684) at eval.c:775 #34 0x080a771f in unbind_to_hairy (count=12) at eval.c:4977 #35 0x0807f5c1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x861ffe0 "Æ «\025Ç\t!\210È\r§­\n\rÉV­\005\b@\r]!\207Ê \210Ë \210ÌÍ! \210Î \210\016\031\026\032Ï \210\f«\034Ð\024ÑÒ!«\006Ó \210ª\020\016\e«\fÔ Õ TU«\ 004Ö \210\r§­\a\rÉV­\002\rÐ\e\032×\216\016\034?­\nØ\r­\003\n?!\211\023+\2074", stack_depth=3, constants_data=0x853edc0) at bytecode.c:757 #36 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139759828, nargs=3, args=0xbfffe6d8) at bytecode.c:515 #37 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=4, args=0xbfffe6d4) at eval.c:3563 #38 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program (program=0x84be908 "Ã\n\t\b#\207", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x857c2c8) at bytecode.c:746 #39 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139954308, nargs=1, args=0xbfffe844) at bytecode.c:515 #40 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffe840) at eval.c:3563 #41 0x080837b2 in Fcall_interactively (function=137973100, record_flag=135981612, keys=135981588) at callint.c:940 #42 0x080a2600 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=137973100, record_flag=135981612, keys=135981588) at eval.c:2970 #43 0x080a375e in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffec94) at eval.c:3528 #44 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8531ba8 "\r\035Æ\rÇa«\004Ȫ$\rÉk«\004ʪ\034\r¨«\aËÌ\r\"ª\022\r:«\r \r@¨«\bËÌ\r@\"ª\002Í!\024)\t«Kt«HÎ\f!\f\032\eÏ\fÐ\"\210\013­8\b¬\023Ñ Ò a«\aÓ pa «\006Ô \210ª\004Õ \210Ö×!­\eØÙË\013A«\004Úª\002Û\nÜ\013!#\"\210Ö\016\036!\210ÝÙ! *\207Ï\fÐ\"\207", stack_depth=7, constants_data=0x82353e0) at bytecode.c:746 #45 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=136496116, nargs=1, args=0xbfffee04) at bytecode.c:515 #46 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffee00) at eval.c:3563 #47 0x080837b2 in Fcall_interactively (function=136530204, record_flag=135981588, keys=135981588) at callint.c:940 #48 0x080a2600 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=136530204, record_flag=135981588, keys=135981588) at eval.c:2970 #49 0x080bc2fa in execute_command_event (command_builder=0x8371af8, event=138016728) at event-stream.c:3915 #50 0x080bca8a in Fdispatch_event (event=138016552) at event-stream.c:4247 #51 0x08087cfd in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:583 #52 0x080a0dfe in condition_case_1 (handlers=135981684, bfun=0x8087f30 , barg=135981588, hfun=0x8087fc0 , harg=135981588) at eval.c:1651 #53 0x0808818b in command_loop_2 (dummy=135981588) at cmdloop.c:256 #54 0x080a0cca in internal_catch (tag=136057684, func=0x8088160 , arg=135981588, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1317 #55 0x08087a22 in initial_command_loop (load_me=135981588) at cmdloop.c:305 #56 0x0809e232 in xemacs_21_4_5_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2353 #57 0x0809e957 in main () at emacs.c:2782 #58 0x401230de in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 M-x describe-installation: -------------------------- uname -a: Linux bjork 2.4.3-20mdk #1 Sun Apr 15 23:03:10 CEST 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-menubars=no' '--with-toolbars=no' XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /root/xemacs-21.4.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmi\ ssing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 06:19:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA25405; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 06:19:04 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA23798; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:58:02 -0500 Received: from femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA23715 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:56:57 -0500 Received: from zeus ([24.43.121.67]) by femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011103215655.RLZS13262.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@zeus> for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:56:55 -0800 Received: by zeus (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9F2411602F; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:06:01 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: XEmacs-21.4.{4,5} crashes in windowed mode Cc: crashes@xemacs.org From: ssahmed@nospam.pathcom.com X-No-Archive: Yes X-Operating-System: Linux zeus 2.4.10 i686 Date: 03 Nov 2001 18:06:00 -0500 Message-ID: <87y9lntpyf.fsf@pathcom.com> Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= XEmacs-21.4.{4,5} compiled from sources on a Debian GNU/Linux "sid"/unstable system using gcc-2.95.4: - crashes when running under X-Windows - works ok if started up in non-windowed mode (ie xemacs -nw) Lisp backtrace follows: # bind (frame-being-created) make-frame(nil #) frame-initialize() # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) command-line() # (unwind-protect ...) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Segmentation fault Exit 139 I've attached a backtrace of running XEmacs in gdb, as well installation info (M-x describe-installation-info). XEmacs was compiled from sources using gcc-2.95.4 with XFree-4.1.0. I am currently using Debian's official XEmacs-21.4.4 packages which do not exhibit any such problems, but would really like to get back to using my own rolled-from-sources XEmacs. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=xemacs-gdb-bt Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: gdb back trace Script started on Sat Nov 3 17:59:23 2001 Tout choses sont dites deja, mais comme personne n'ecoute, il faut=0D toujours recommencer.=0D -- A. Gide=0D You have mail.=0D ssahmed logged on local::0 at 1:56am=0D ssahmed logged on :0:pts/0 at 1:56am=0D ssahmed logged on :0.0:pts/1 at 1:56am=0D ssahmed logged on matrix:pts/2 at 12:00am=0D ssahmed logged on :0.0:pts/3 at 5:49pm=0D ssahmed logged on :0.0:pts/4 at 12:44am=0D @=1B[1mzeus:[/backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5] =1B[m=0Fcd src/=0D=0D @=1B[1mzeus:[/backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src] =1B[m=0Fgdb xemacs = =0D=0D GNU gdb 5.0.90-cvs (MI_OUT)=0D Copyright 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.=0D GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you ar= e=0D welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition= s.=0D Type "show copying" to see the conditions.=0D There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.= =0D This GDB was configured as "i386-linux"...=0D (gdb) run=0D Starting program: /backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs =0D Better hope you get what you want before you stop wanting it.=0D =0D Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.=0D 0x40227388 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6=0D (gdb) bt=0D #0 0x40227388 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6= =0D #1 0x402276bb in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6= =0D #2 0x40227876 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6= =0D #3 0x40228154 in _XtCreatePopupShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6=0D #4 0x402281e5 in XtCreatePopupShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6=0D #5 0x081700f8 in x_create_widgets (f=3D0x8469480, lisp_window_id=3D1363249= 64, parent=3D136324964)=0D at frame-x.c:1957=0D #6 0x08170704 in x_init_frame_1 (f=3D0x8469480, props=3D136324964) at fram= e-x.c:2184=0D #7 0x080f874d in Fmake_frame (props=3D136324964, device=3D138290840) at fr= ame.c:395=0D #8 0x080aea9a in Ffuncall (nargs=3D3, args=3D0xbffff1d8) at eval.c:3528=0D #9 0x0808b457 in execute_optimized_program (=0D program=3D0x8469368 "=C6 \210=C7 ?=AD&=C8\f=C9 \"=AC\027=CA\r\013\"\022= =CB\r=C8\t=CC \"@\"\211\020\026\020=CD\r!\025=CE\016\021!\210=CF\211\024\20= 7", stack_depth=3D5, constants_data=3D0x82986c0) at bytecode.c:746=0D #10 0x0808b15f in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D137199832, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbffff31c) at bytecode.c:515=0D #11 0x080aec37 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D1, args=3D0xbffff318) at eval.c:3563=0D #12 0x0808b457 in execute_optimized_program (=0D program=3D0x83e1f70 "\013A\035=C6=C7\032\031=C8\r!\025\b=C9a=AB\004=CA = \210=CB=CC!=AB\004=CD \210\f=AB\017\016\035=AC\013=CE=CF=D0\f!=D1Q! \210=D2= \210*=D3 \210=D4 \210r=D5=D6!q\210=D7 \210=D8=D9!\210\016!=DAa=AB\005\016\= " \210)=DB =DCa=AB\b=DD =AC\004=DE \210=DF \210=D9\026#=DD =AD\004=E0=C7!)\= 207moA\001", stack_depth=3D4, constants_data=3D0x832a4a0) at bytecode.c:746= =0D #13 0x0808b15f in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D137517364, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbffff45c) at bytecode.c:515=0D #14 0x080aec37 in Ffuncall (nargs=3D1, args=3D0xbffff458) at eval.c:3563=0D #15 0x0808b457 in execute_optimized_program (=0D program=3D0x82542a8 "\t=AB\005=C6=C7!\207=C8\021=C9 \211\034=AB\025\fG\= rGW=AB\016=CA\r!=CA\f!k=AB\005=CB\f!\025)=CC\r!\025=CD \210=CE \210\013=AE\= a=CF=D0!=AD\002=C8\e=D1\016#\016$\"\022\013=AB\t=D2=D3=D4\n\"=D5\"\210\n=AC= \004=D6 \210=D7\n\016%\b\016&\013%\210=D8 \210)\016!=AC\022\016\"=AB\016=D9= =DA=DB\016'!\016\"\"=DC=C8#\210\016!=AC\023\b=AC\006=DD\016(!\210=DD\016)!\= 210=DD\016*!\210=DE\216=DF \210)\016+=AD\003=E0 \207 \b,C%\b=A1", stack_dep= th=3D7, constants_data=3D0x832a2e0) at bytecode.c:746=0D #16 0x0808b15f in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3D137517308, nargs=3D0, ar= gs=3D0xbffff504) at bytecode.c:515=0D #17 0x080ae3c2 in Feval (form=3D137482848) at eval.c:3388=0D #18 0x080b43be in condition_case_1 (handlers=3D136325060, bfun=3D0x80adaa0 = , barg=3D137482848, =0D ---Type to continue, or q to quit---=0D hfun=3D0x80935ec , harg=3D136324964) at eval.c:1651=0D #19 0x08093673 in top_level_1 (dummy=3D136324964) at cmdloop.c:206=0D #20 0x080b428c in internal_catch (tag=3D136401060, func=3D0x8093644 , arg=3D136324964, threw=3D0x0)=0D at eval.c:1317=0D #21 0x08092f86 in initial_command_loop (load_me=3D136324964) at cmdloop.c:2= 85=0D #22 0x080a8943 in xemacs_21_4_5_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2353=0D #23 0x080aa532 in main () at emacs.c:2782=0D #24 0x4049d65f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6=0D (gdb) quit=0D The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) y=0D @=1B[1mzeus:[/backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src] =1B[m=0Fexit Script done on Sat Nov 3 17:59:33 2001 --=-=-= Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=xemacs-installation-info Content-Description: xemacs installation info uname -a: Linux zeus 2.4.10 #1 Tue Sep 25 14:24:06 EST 2001 i686 unknown ./configure XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /backup/ssahmed/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. --=-=-= Thanks. -- Salman Ahmed To reply, remove "nospam." from my email address ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 06:17:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA25309; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 06:17:33 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02614; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:43:02 -0500 Received: from isis.cs3-inc.com (isis.cs3-inc.com [207.224.119.73]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02565 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:42:09 -0500 Received: (from don@localhost) by isis.cs3-inc.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fA3Hcjf00605 for crashes@xemacs.org; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:38:45 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:38:45 -0800 Message-Id: <200111031738.fA3Hcjf00605@isis.cs3-inc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: isis.cs3-inc.com: don set sender to don-temp52998413 using -f X-Authentication-Warning: isis.cs3-inc.com: Processed from queue /var/spool/mqueue X-Authentication-Warning: isis.cs3-inc.com: Processed by don with -C /etc/sendmail.cf From: don-temp52998413@isis.cs3-inc.com (Don Cohen) To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: fatal error (11) - again X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I begin to think that a few bits in my file system have been corrupted. Again I was not even there at the time of the crash. M-x describe-installation: ================ uname -a: Linux host1.testnetwork 2.2.16-22smp #1 SMP Tue Aug 22 16:39:21 EDT 2000 i686 unknown ./configure XEmacs 21.1.14 "Cuyahoga Valley" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Where should the build process find the source code? /root/xemacs-21.1.14 What installation prefix should install use? /usr/local What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/linux.h' and `m/intel386.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes (Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.) Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11R6/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11R6/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG image handling. Compiling in support for (builtin) GIF image handling. Compiling in support for JPEG image handling. Compiling in support for TIFF image handling. Compiling in native sound support. Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. Using Lisp_Objects with minimal tagbits. ================ screen dump(s) - small amounts may have been lost when the screen was filled by gdb - I've marked those places ================ [don@isis don]$ xemacs -nw Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. If you have access to the PROBLEMS file that came with your version of XEmacs, please check to see if your crash is described there, as there may be a workaround available. Otherwise, please report this bug by running the send-pr script included with XEmacs, or selecting `Send Bug Report' from the help menu. As a last resort send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the information in the command M-x describe-installation. If at all possible, *please* try to obtain a C stack backtrace; it will help us immensely in determining what went wrong. To do this, locate the core file that was produced as a result of this crash (it's usually called `core' and is located in the directory in which you started the editor, or maybe in your home directory), and type gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core then type `where' when the debugger prompt comes up. (If you don't have GDB on your system, you might have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. A similar procedure should work for all of these. Ask your system administrator if you need more help.) Lisp backtrace follows: Segmentation fault (core dumped) You have mail in /var/spool/mail/don [don@isis don]$ ... This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"... Core was generated by `xemacs -nw'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpng.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libz.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libdl.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/ld-linux.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_files.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_files.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnsl.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnsl.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_nis.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_nis.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_dns.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_dns.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libresolv.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libresolv.so.2 #0 0x4030ddd1 in __kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) ... where #0 0x4030ddd1 in __kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x809fef2 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at emacs.c:264 #2 #3 mark_object (obj=405280852) at alloc.c:3196 #4 0x80d2087 in mark_extent_auxiliary (obj=142027160, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at extents.c:917 #5 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142027160) at alloc.c:3208 #6 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=143550972, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #7 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141984496) at alloc.c:3208 #8 0x80d22ae in mark_extent_info (obj=143753096, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at extents.c:1000 #9 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143753096) at alloc.c:3208 #10 0x807fd02 in mark_buffer (obj=142521488, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at buffer.c:235 #11 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143049824) at alloc.c:3208 #12 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=143049812, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #13 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143049812) at alloc.c:3208 #14 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=141907880, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #15 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141907880) at alloc.c:3208 #16 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=142068256, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #17 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143309828) at alloc.c:3208 #18 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=142735968, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #19 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142735968) at alloc.c:3208 #20 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=142844928, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #21 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142361616) at alloc.c:3208 #22 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=142735800, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #23 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142735800) at alloc.c:3208 #24 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=142844768, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #25 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142361588) at alloc.c:3208 #26 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=142735520, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #27 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142361364) at alloc.c:3208 #28 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137488036, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #29 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142361280) at alloc.c:3208 #30 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137599848, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #31 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137599848) at alloc.c:3208 #32 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142921420, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #33 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=136935964) at alloc.c:3208 #34 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137048152, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #35 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143491736) at alloc.c:3208 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- ... #36 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=143496096, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #37 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143496108) at alloc.c:3208 #38 0x80a6e55 in mark_compiled_function (obj=143463328, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at eval.c:264 #39 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143463328) at alloc.c:3208 #40 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138012232, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #41 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138012232) at alloc.c:3208 #42 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=142314792, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #43 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143463160) at alloc.c:3208 #44 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137645732, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #45 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137591936) at alloc.c:3208 #46 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137716808, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #47 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137716748) at alloc.c:3208 #48 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137731624, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #49 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137731624) at alloc.c:3208 #50 0x8136d1c in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=138985016, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:910 #51 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138985016) at alloc.c:3208 #52 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=136951588, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #53 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=136951588) at alloc.c:3208 #54 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137868332, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #55 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137868332) at alloc.c:3208 #56 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137868320, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #57 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138032136) at alloc.c:3208 #58 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=137028888, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #59 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137028888) at alloc.c:3208 #60 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=137476992, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #61 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137476992) at alloc.c:3208 #62 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=137590972, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #63 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142175464) at alloc.c:3208 #64 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142175452, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #65 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142185348) at alloc.c:3208 #66 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=141936928, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #67 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141936928) at alloc.c:3208 #68 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=137448360, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #69 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137448360) at alloc.c:3208 #70 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=137226616, markobj=0x807f9ec ) ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- ... at symbols.c:99 #71 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137485384) at alloc.c:3208 #72 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137485156, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #73 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137485144) at alloc.c:3208 #74 0x807fbf7 in mark_buffer (obj=141124328, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:88 #75 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141124328) at alloc.c:3208 #76 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=142736976, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #77 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142736976) at alloc.c:3208 #78 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=137525176, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #79 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137525176) at alloc.c:3208 #80 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=144073192, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #81 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=144073192) at alloc.c:3208 #82 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=144073204, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #83 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=144073216) at alloc.c:3208 #84 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=139821248, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #85 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139821248) at alloc.c:3208 #86 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=137661192, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #87 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137661192) at alloc.c:3208 #88 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=136983172, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #89 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138174284) at alloc.c:3208 #90 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137951564, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #91 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137951468) at alloc.c:3208 #92 0x80a6e5b in mark_compiled_function (obj=138851320, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at eval.c:265 #93 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138851320) at alloc.c:3208 #94 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138172968, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #95 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138172968) at alloc.c:3208 #96 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138775120, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #97 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138851376) at alloc.c:3208 #98 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138772484, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #99 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138772484) at alloc.c:3208 #100 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138619480, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #101 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138619480) at alloc.c:3208 #102 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137880960, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #103 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137880996) at alloc.c:3208 #104 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=138772204, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- ... #105 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138772204) at alloc.c:3208 #106 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138175576, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #107 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138026800) at alloc.c:3208 #108 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138371904, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #109 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138371904) at alloc.c:3208 #110 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138178280, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #111 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138904068) at alloc.c:3208 #112 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138371932, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #113 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138371932) at alloc.c:3208 #114 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138982232, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #115 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138906896) at alloc.c:3208 #116 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137706316, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #117 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137706316) at alloc.c:3208 #118 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138035820, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #119 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138035820) at alloc.c:3208 #120 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138035784, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #121 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137132492) at alloc.c:3208 #122 0x8136b58 in mark_symbol (obj=137287064, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:107 #123 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138547404) at alloc.c:3208 #124 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138754224, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #125 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138027780) at alloc.c:3208 #126 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138547236, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #127 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138547236) at alloc.c:3208 #128 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138728768, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #129 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138027752) at alloc.c:3208 #130 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138546704, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #131 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138546704) at alloc.c:3208 #132 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138728576, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #133 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137794252) at alloc.c:3208 #134 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137168792, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #135 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138219896) at alloc.c:3208 #136 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138629136, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #137 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=136929252) at alloc.c:3208 #138 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137033468, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #139 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137033420) at alloc.c:3208 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- ... #140 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=136950972, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #141 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=136950972) at alloc.c:3208 #142 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142186028, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #143 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142186136) at alloc.c:3208 #144 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138039232, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #145 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138039088) at alloc.c:3208 #146 0x8136b58 in mark_symbol (obj=137828908, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:107 #147 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137828908) at alloc.c:3208 #148 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138039160, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #149 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138039160) at alloc.c:3208 #150 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138039136, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #151 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142179524) at alloc.c:3208 #152 0x8136b58 in mark_symbol (obj=137828740, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:107 #153 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138278896) at alloc.c:3208 #154 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139663768, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #155 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138935256) at alloc.c:3208 #156 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138278980, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #157 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138278980) at alloc.c:3208 #158 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139853288, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #159 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139853288) at alloc.c:3208 #160 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=139841844, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #161 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139841820) at alloc.c:3208 #162 0x80a6e5b in mark_compiled_function (obj=138935676, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at eval.c:265 #163 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138935676) at alloc.c:3208 #164 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139351940, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #165 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139351940) at alloc.c:3208 #166 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137802312, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #167 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137694384) at alloc.c:3208 #168 0x80fe707 in mark_keymap (obj=137617344, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at keymap.c:266 #169 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137617344) at alloc.c:3208 #170 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137266608, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #171 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138052136) at alloc.c:3208 #172 0x80fe707 in mark_keymap (obj=137903144, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at keymap.c:266 #173 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137903144) at alloc.c:3208 #174 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138706424, markobj=0x807f9ec ) ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- at alloc.c:1317 #175 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138706056) at alloc.c:3208 #176 0x80fe707 in mark_keymap (obj=138033880, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at keymap.c:266 #177 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138033880) at alloc.c:3208 #178 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137917456, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #179 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138705864) at alloc.c:3208 #180 0x80fe707 in mark_keymap (obj=138129008, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at keymap.c:266 #181 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138129008) at alloc.c:3208 #182 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=138487412, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #183 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138487412) at alloc.c:3208 #184 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138705568, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #185 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138026660) at alloc.c:3208 #186 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137739856, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #187 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137739856) at alloc.c:3208 #188 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138692928, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #189 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138027304) at alloc.c:3208 #190 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137414492, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #191 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137414492) at alloc.c:3208 #192 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138693336, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #193 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138027388) at alloc.c:3208 #194 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137186616, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #195 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137186616) at alloc.c:3208 #196 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137186588, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #197 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137292660) at alloc.c:3208 #198 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139154880, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #199 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152808) at alloc.c:3208 #200 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139090968, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #201 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139090968) at alloc.c:3208 #202 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=139090940, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #203 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139090940) at alloc.c:3208 #204 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137151936, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #205 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138908436) at alloc.c:3208 #206 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091472, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #207 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139091472) at alloc.c:3208 #208 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139154776, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #209 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152780) at alloc.c:3208 #210 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139090912, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #211 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139090912) at alloc.c:3208 #212 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=139090884, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #213 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139090884) at alloc.c:3208 #214 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137151896, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #215 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138908408) at alloc.c:3208 #216 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091640, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #217 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152920) at alloc.c:3208 #218 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091920, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #219 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139091920) at alloc.c:3208 #220 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139155024, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #221 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152836) at alloc.c:3208 #222 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091892, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #223 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139091892) at alloc.c:3208 #224 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139155144, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #225 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152892) at alloc.c:3208 #226 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091360, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #227 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139091360) at alloc.c:3208 #228 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137151312, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #229 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138908184) at alloc.c:3208 #230 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137648008, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #231 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139212900) at alloc.c:3208 #232 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=139212912, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #233 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142645264) at alloc.c:3208 #234 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=138983048, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #235 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138983048) at alloc.c:3208 #236 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=137243760, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #237 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137243760) at alloc.c:3208 #238 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=137389500, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #239 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137389500) at alloc.c:3208 #240 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142151432, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #241 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142151432) at alloc.c:3208 #242 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142151372, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #243 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142151372) at alloc.c:3208 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #244 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=142859296, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #245 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142859296) at alloc.c:3208 #246 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=139760472, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #247 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139760472) at alloc.c:3208 #248 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=139380068, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #249 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141940284) at alloc.c:3208 #250 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=141940344, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #251 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141940344) at alloc.c:3208 #252 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=142002384, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #253 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142002384) at alloc.c:3208 #254 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=138929816, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #255 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138929816) at alloc.c:3208 #256 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=139379564, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #257 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139379564) at alloc.c:3208 #258 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=140031176, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #259 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139941200) at alloc.c:3208 #260 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=140031240, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #261 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139941228) at alloc.c:3208 #262 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138705084, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #263 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138705084) at alloc.c:3208 #264 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=136847448, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #265 0x807d319 in garbage_collect_1 () at alloc.c:3208 #266 0x807d98e in Fgarbage_collect () at alloc.c:4695 #267 0x80a3522 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=136846796, nargs=0, args=0xbfffe890) at eval.c:3197 #268 0x80a6cc4 in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffe890) at eval.c:3238 #269 0x8085275 in Fbyte_code (bytestr=136490932, vector=136491120, maxdepth=11) at bytecode.c:416 #270 0x80a4299 in funcall_lambda (fun=136491304, nargs=0, arg_vector=0xbfffeb04) at eval.c:3607 #271 0x80a3630 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=137629236, nargs=0, args=0xbfffeb00) at eval.c:3214 #272 0x80a6cc4 in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffeb00) at eval.c:3238 #273 0x8085275 in Fbyte_code (bytestr=136487604, vector=136487684, maxdepth=9) at bytecode.c:416 #274 0x80a2f29 in Feval (form=136487580) at eval.c:3063 #275 0x80a11b5 in condition_case_1 (handlers=136487808, bfun=0x80a26bc , barg=136487580, hfun=0x80a11f8 , harg=137628620) at eval.c:1653 #276 0x80a69a1 in condition_case_3 (bodyform=136487580, var=137628620, handlers=136487808) at eval.c:1718 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #277 0x808568c in Fbyte_code (bytestr=136486948, vector=136487248, maxdepth=17) at bytecode.c:576 #278 0x80a4299 in funcall_lambda (fun=136488212, nargs=1, arg_vector=0xbffff524) at eval.c:3607 #279 0x80a3630 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=137628424, nargs=1, args=0xbffff520) at eval.c:3214 #280 0x80a6cc4 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbffff520) at eval.c:3238 #281 0x8085275 in Fbyte_code (bytestr=136490364, vector=136490432, maxdepth=11) at bytecode.c:416 #282 0x80a4299 in funcall_lambda (fun=136490516, nargs=1, arg_vector=0xbffff6ac) at eval.c:3607 #283 0x80a3630 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=137628872, nargs=1, args=0xbffff6a8) at eval.c:3214 #284 0x80a5d24 in call1 (fn=137628872, arg0=136845396) at eval.c:3238 #285 0x80c3a80 in execute_internal_event (event=144007064) at event-stream.c:3044 #286 0x80c5c69 in Fdispatch_event (event=144007064) at event-stream.c:4691 #287 0x808b807 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:579 #288 0x80a11b5 in condition_case_1 (handlers=136845508, bfun=0x808b9d0 , barg=136845396, hfun=0x808ba4c , harg=136845396) at eval.c:1653 #289 0x808bc30 in command_loop_2 (dummy=136845396) at cmdloop.c:256 #290 0x80a1089 in internal_catch (tag=136919768, func=0x808bbec , arg=136845396, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1328 #291 0x808b518 in initial_command_loop (load_me=136845396) at cmdloop.c:305 #292 0x809eb08 in sort_args (argc=2, argv=0xbffffb34) at emacs.c:1725 #293 0x809f194 in main (argc=2, argv=0xbffffb34, envp=0xbffffb40) at emacs.c:2142 #294 0x402fcf31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x809f080
, argc=2, ubp_av=0xbffffb34, init=0x80774f8 <_init>, fini=0x81686ac <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffb2c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 (gdb) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 06:20:34 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA25523; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 06:20:28 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA26480; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:53:00 -0500 Received: from kiruna.synopsys.com (kiruna.synopsys.com [204.176.20.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA26465 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:52:49 -0500 Received: from maiden.synopsys.com (maiden.synopsys.com [146.225.100.170]) by kiruna.synopsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB65F2A1 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from amar.synopsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maiden.synopsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA15689 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:53:00 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Lorgus Received: (from lorgus@localhost) by amar.synopsys.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id UAA23547 for crashes@xemacs.org; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:52:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111050452.UAA23547@amar.synopsys.com> Subject: Bug Report for xemacs-20.4 To: crashes@xemacs.org Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:52:50 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Here is a crash encountered in xemacs-20.4 The crash occurs whenever I type: /) to complete a regular expression. The stack trace is attached. Alex. (gdb) #0 0xfef969c8 in _libc_kill () #1 0x61c40 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at emacs.c:220 #2 #3 skip_chars (buf=0x272200, forwardp=0, syntaxp=1, string=92, lim=1) at buffer.h:675 #4 0xe7980 in Fskip_syntax_backward (syntax=1612312664, lim=-1608241148, buffer=-1608241148) at search.c:936 #5 0x681b8 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=-1608140356, nargs=1, args=0xffbee73c) at eval.c:3235 #6 0x68778 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xffbee73c) at eval.c:3280 #7 0x4978c in Fbyte_code (bytestr=1612312264, vector=-2145783848, maxdepth=20) at bytecode.c:420 #8 0x694fc in funcall_lambda (fun=538571104, nargs=0, arg_vector=0xffbeea78) at eval.c:3665 #9 0x68724 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=-1607843884, nargs=0, args=0xffbeea74) at eval.c:3256 #10 0x68778 in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xffbeea74) at eval.c:3280 #11 0x69b18 in call0 (fn=-1607843884) at eval.c:3991 #12 0x50f50 in internal_self_insert (c1=41, noautofill=0) at cmds.c:428 #13 0x50b78 in Fself_insert_command (arg=41) at cmds.c:322 #14 0x68410 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=-1608164112, nargs=1, args=0xffbeecb0) at eval.c:3239 #15 0x68778 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xffbeecb0) at eval.c:3280 #16 0x4bfa0 in Fcall_interactively (function=-1608164112, record_flag=-1608241148, keys=-1608241148) at callint.c:926 #17 0x66ee0 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=-1608164112, record=-1608241148, keys=-1608241148) at eval.c:2631 #18 0x8716c in execute_command_event (command_builder=0x280cc0, event=540602064) at event-stream.c:4253 #19 0x8774c in Fdispatch_event (event=540602064) at event-stream.c:4547 #20 0x50368 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:560 #21 0x50190 in command_loop_1 (dummy=-1608241148) at cmdloop.c:480 #22 0x65bf0 in condition_case_1 (handlers=-1608241068, bfun=0x5016c , barg=-1608241148, hfun=0x4faa4 , harg=-1608241148) at eval.c:1696 #23 0x4fbbc in command_loop_3 () at cmdloop.c:242 #24 0x4fbe4 in command_loop_2 (dummy=-1608241148) at cmdloop.c:253 #25 0x65880 in internal_catch (tag=-1608164192, func=0x4fbd8 , arg=-1608241148, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1371 #26 0x4fdf0 in initial_command_loop (load_me=326616) at cmdloop.c:291 #27 0x62e18 in xemacs_20_4_sparc_sun_solaris2_5_1 (argc=2, argv=0xffbef4dc, envp=0xffbef4e8) at emacs.c:1493 #28 0x6351c in main (argc=0, argv=0xffbef4dc, envp=0xffbef4e8) at emacs.c:1849 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 07:10:28 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27736; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:10:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27679 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:09:03 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160iXx-0003YB-00; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:08:09 +0900 To: Mats Lidell Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Tutorial out of date? References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 05 Nov 2001 21:08:09 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87r8rdo1xy.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id HAA27679 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Mats" == Mats Lidell writes: Stephen> Docs are always welcome. It would be nice to have a Stephen> second opinion on it before you submit it. Mats> I have submitted it to Björn for proofreading. I'll submit Mats> it after I get feedback from him. Mats> I'm sure others will have views on it when exposed to the Mats> public and isn't that a convenient way to fix it? It isn't Mats> code so it will hardly break something if included. Well, if the TUTORIAL is outright broken or full of typos or grammar mistakes or Norswedish ;-), newbies are likely to expect XEmacs to be just as broken. That's bad. It's generally more efficient to get one second opinion than to break your own head trying to proofread, that's all I had in mind. But I'd certainly take a new translation without it if the author insisted. Thanks to Björn, it will be proofread. Everybody happy, yes? APA> Current behavior in which version of XEmacs? Mats> I thought = "C-d" was default from at least 21.4? The Mats> tutorial in 21.5 says "You can delete the last character you Mats> typed by typing ." XEmacs has attempted to get delete-key-deletes-forward correct for at least three years. However, we haven't been totally successful. (At least several current threads on comp.emacs suggest we've been a _lot_ more successful than GNU Emacs, though, :-) I would say where you can use 21.4 as the reference. If that's too inconvenient, add an author's note that this Swedish version of the TUTORIAL was verified against 21.5 but 21.4 is expected to be identical at the level of the TUTORIAL. Then all bases are covered. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 07:20:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA28230; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:20:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA28203 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:19:57 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160iiO-0003YO-00; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:18:56 +0900 To: Alex Lorgus Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Bug Report for xemacs-20.4 References: <200111050452.UAA23547@amar.synopsys.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 05 Nov 2001 21:18:55 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200111050452.UAA23547@amar.synopsys.com> Message-ID: <87n121o1g0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Alex" == Alex Lorgus writes: Alex> Here is a crash encountered in xemacs-20.4 XEmacs 20.4 is no longer under development, and has not been supported for about two years now. The current stable version is XEmacs 21.1.14, and XEmacs 21.4 (currently at patch 5) is targeted for promotion to stable "soon". You should upgrade to one of those versions. Sorry; that's the best we can offer with the limited staff we have. If that doesn't help, please let us know. Somebody will eventually check this out in the current versions, but since the report is for an obsolete version, it may take a while if you don't do it. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 07:51:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA29941; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:51:03 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27401; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:00:01 -0500 Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-svc.virgin.net [62.253.164.41]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA27362 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 06:59:25 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.68.191]) by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20011105115923.CLQG29561.mta1-svc.virgin.net@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:59:23 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA5BnTI01052; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:49:29 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15334.31945.132653.875202@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:49:29 +0000 To: Alex Lorgus Cc: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Bug Report for xemacs-20.4 In-Reply-To: <200111050452.UAA23547@amar.synopsys.com> References: <200111050452.UAA23547@amar.synopsys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.94 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence (candidate #1)" XEmacs Lucid X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Alex Lorgus wrote: > Here is a crash encountered in xemacs-20.4 20.4 is positively prehistoric; consider updating. > The crash occurs whenever I type: > /) > to complete a regular expression. > The stack trace is attached. > #4 0xe7980 in Fskip_syntax_backward (syntax=1612312664, lim=-1608241148, buffer=-1608241148) > at search.c:936 > #27 0x62e18 in xemacs_20_4_sparc_sun_solaris2_5_1 (argc=2, argv=0xffbef4dc, envp=0xffbef4e8) > at emacs.c:1493 The current PROBLEMS file says: *** Don't use -O2 with gcc 2.8.1 and egcs 1.0 under SPARC architectures without also using `-fno-schedule-insns'. gcc will generate incorrect code otherwise, typically resulting in crashes in the function skip-syntax-backward. I don't know if this was known back when 20.4 was released, or if it was even relevant then. But it does match your symptoms. -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 07:54:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA30126; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:54:01 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA30002; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:52:03 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02121; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA11516; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA28921; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:47:18 +0100 (MET) To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: [Matt Pharr ] core dump in 21.4 (patch5) when trying to run recent version of gnus X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 05 Nov 2001 13:52:19 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 305 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Shouldn't erradicate crashes@xemacs.org and ask for reports to xemacs-beta@xemacs.org instead? Best regards, Adrian --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-From-Line: mmp@exluna.com Mon Nov 05 12:21:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([207.96.122.8]) by mailin00.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 160hkO-0QWwYya; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:16:56 +0100 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA25202; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 06:16:02 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA19453; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:46:01 -0500 Received: from radiance.Stanford.EDU (radiance.Stanford.EDU [171.64.77.222]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA19414 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:45:07 -0500 Received: (from mmp@localhost) by radiance.Stanford.EDU (8.9.0/8.9.0) id UAA385684; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 20:44:59 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: radiance.Stanford.EDU: mmp set sender to mmp@exluna.com using -f To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: core dump in 21.4 (patch5) when trying to run recent version of gnus X-Face: C!.oGaE]n@p)VF9Ss3]f'|<)kRrtpG)^^b^X-3_zhUHp\jBj29jaoTItqWR>mHa+v-{/!jx7OA@!cV0>Fm-b:zEL<`oOXG[BFQ\ Date: 01 Nov 2001 20:44:59 -0800 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Lines: 249 Xref: D5DC120J Gnus:40 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lisp backtrace follows: # bind (form) gnus-byte-compile((lambda (file orig-file) (nnmail-split-incoming file (quote nnml-save-mail) (quote nil) (if ... nil ...) (quote nnml-active-number)))) # bind (source incomings incoming total new i group-in fetching-sources source s spool-func group temp exit-func method) nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "/home/mmp/mail/nnml/" nil) # bind (server group) nnml-request-scan(nil "") # bind (gnus-command-method gnus-inhibit-demon mail-source-plugged gnus-comman d-method group) gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml "")) # bind (where mesg force method) gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil) # (condition-case ... . ((quit (message "Quit reading the active file")))) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (methods method not-native force) gnus-read-active-file(nil nil) # bind (init nnmail-fetched-sources dont-connect level rawfile) gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) byte-code("..." [gnus-slave gnus-current-startup-file gnus-startup-file did-co nnect level dont-connect gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-m ake-newsrc-file gnus-dribble-read-file bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-setup-news nil gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-s etup gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook gnus-use-dribble-file gnus-use -grouplens] 4) # bind (level did-connect slave dont-connect arg) gnus-1(nil nil nil) # bind (slave dont-connect arg) gnus(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(gnus) command-execute(gnus t) # bind (_execute_command_keys_ _execute_command_name_ prefix-arg) execute-extended-command(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(execute-extended-command) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) zsh: 1461 abort (core dumped) xemacs Stack trace ----------- #0 0x40133d11 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x0809d690 in fatal_error_signal (sig=6) at emacs.c:539 #2 0x40133b68 in killpg () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0x40135143 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 #4 0x0809fb65 in assert_failed (file=0x815ca88 "bytecode.c", line=1477, expr=0x815ca80 "abort()") at emacs.c:3314 #5 0x080804f5 in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=0xbfffd5f4, program_ptr=0x86c77a0 "\024%\034\b)", opcode=0) at bytecode.c:1477 #6 0x0807f33c in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x86c7790 "ôT\037\b¼`q\bt`q\b\003", stack_depth=3, constants_data=0x8538488) at bytecode.c:656 #7 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139127324, nargs=1, args=0xbfffd760) at bytecode.c:515 #8 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffd75c) at eval.c:3563 #9 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x86c6330 "\016>®\r\0168<«\005\0168ª\004\0168C\031Æ\e\0169\036?Ç\211 \036:\036;Ç\032Æ\211\036@\036AÆ\035ÈÉ\f\"\203\203", stack_depth=17, constants_data=0x866a300) at bytecode.c:746 #10 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=140848008, nargs=4, args=0xbfffd8f8) at bytecode.c:515 #11 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=5, args=0xbfffd8f4) at eval.c:3563 #12 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x81dee18 "Ä\022Å\013\t\"\210ÆÇÈ\b\013$\207 @(", stack_depth=5, constants_data=0x81dee40) at bytecode.c:746 #13 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=141301428, nargs=2, args=0xbfffda68) at bytecode.c:515 #14 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffda64) at eval.c:3563 #15 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x86c62a0 "\f«\006Æ\f!ª\002\rÇ\n\031\030\035\n¬\aÈ\r!?­\035É\rÊ\"\f­ \022\f\eËÌ\013\"«\b\013Í\225ÎOª\002\013)\rA@\"+\207", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x858b560) at bytecode.c:746 #16 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139955512, nargs=2, args=0xbfffdbd8) at bytecode.c:515 #17 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffdbd4) at eval.c:3563 #18 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x86467d0 "Æ\211\0366\0367\rA@\0267ÇÈ\0167«\016\0167GÉU¬\aÊ\0167Pª\0 02Ë\r@#\0266ÌÍ\0166\"\210Î\r!\205Ñ\002Ï\r@\034\036>ÆÐÑ\217*«\006ÒÆ\r\"\210\016CÓ a\203\204\002Ô\r@\034\036>ÆÕÖ\217*\203v\002\016D\204q\002\016EAÆ\r\035\034\r;«\0 06×\r!ª\\\r\0162k«\005\0162ªR\r@;«\n\f«\aØ\f\r\"ªD\r«\016\f¬\013\rA@Ëk«\004\rª4\ r\035Ù\r@!\031ÚÛ\t\0169\"s«\"Ü\tÝP!\r·¬\031Þ\r@\0169·s«\020ß\rÜ\tÝP!\rA@DC\"ª\00 2\r**"..., stack_depth=7, constants_data=0x861dd30) at bytecode.c:746 #19 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139750212, nargs=2, args=0xbfffdca0) at bytecode.c:515 #20 0x080a3124 in Feval (form=139387668) at eval.c:3388 #21 0x080a0dfe in condition_case_1 (handlers=138385408, bfun=0x80a2910 , barg=139387668, hfun=0x80a0e50 , harg=135981588) at eval.c:1651 #22 0x080a1135 in condition_case_3 (bodyform=139387668, var=135981588, handlers=138385408) at eval.c:1732 #23 0x080800fc in execute_rare_opcode (stack_ptr=0xbfffdf8c, program_ptr=0x86373b0 "\210ªÜ+\207-functi\001\b", opcode=Bcondition_case) at bytecode.c:1271 #24 0x0807f33c in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8637368 "Æ \210ÇÈÉ\t¬\013Ê\013!«\006\013\nBª\002\nË ­\003ÌC\"\"Í\0 35\034Í\020\212\016\021q\210\f\211A\024@\211\025­\035\r\f¶¬ó\016\022¬\005\016\02 3«\tÎ\r\016\024\"\210ªãÍÏÐ\217\210ªÜ+\207-functi\001\b", stack_depth=5, constants_data=0x8464aa0) at bytecode.c:656 #25 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139750184, nargs=2, args=0xbfffe0f8) at bytecode.c:515 #26 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffe0f4) at eval.c:3563 #27 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8650e80 "ÆÇ!\210\016(­\a\n­\004\016)??ÈC\036,\211\e«\013É\211\026( \022Ê\016)!\210\016-«!ËÌ\t\"¬\eÌÍÌÎÏ\016*Ì\"DÐÏ\016*Ñ\"DÒBBBBB\tB\021\r«\006\rÓa «\004Ô \210\r«\t\f¬\006ÅÉ\b\"\210\n¬\005ÕÖ!\022\016.«\004× \210\013«\f\016/¬\005 \016'«\004Ø \210\013«\b\016'«\004Ù \210Ú \210ÛÜ!«\036\016\034;«\031É\0360ÝÞ\016\ 034\")«\016\0161¬\n\b¬\a\r«\004ß \210\013«\031\0162«\025\f¬\022à\016+!«\f\016'¬\ b\0163«\004á \210\013«\024\016#«\020"..., stack_depth=9, constants_data=0x853f040) at bytecode.c:746 #28 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139760136, nargs=3, args=0xbfffe278) at bytecode.c:515 #29 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=4, args=0xbfffe274) at eval.c:3563 #30 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0xbfffe2f0 "\r¬\t\013¬\006Æ \210ª>ÇÈ!\210É\n!\021\b¬\005\016\031«\00 4Ê \210\016\032«\tË \210ÌÍÎ\"\210ÏÐ\f\r#\210ÇÑ!\210Ò \210Ó\f!\210Ô \210ÕÖ!\210× \210ÇØ!\210Ð\207ÿ¿x8\n\b´\212W\b\001", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x85a1b98) at bytecode.c:746 #31 0x08081753 in Fbyte_code (instructions=138754612, constants=140123016, stack_depth=9) at bytecode.c:2405 #32 0x080a2f01 in Feval (form=139328128) at eval.c:3331 #33 0x080a742d in Fprogn (args=139327684) at eval.c:775 #34 0x080a771f in unbind_to_hairy (count=12) at eval.c:4977 #35 0x0807f5c1 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x861ffe0 "Æ «\025Ç\t!\210È\r§­\n\rÉV­\005\b@\r]!\207Ê \210Ë \210ÌÍ! \210Î \210\016\031\026\032Ï \210\f«\034Ð\024ÑÒ!«\006Ó \210ª\020\016\e«\fÔ Õ TU«\ 004Ö \210\r§­\a\rÉV­\002\rÐ\e\032×\216\016\034?­\nØ\r­\003\n?!\211\023+\2074", stack_depth=3, constants_data=0x853edc0) at bytecode.c:757 #36 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139759828, nargs=3, args=0xbfffe6d8) at bytecode.c:515 #37 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=4, args=0xbfffe6d4) at eval.c:3563 #38 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program (program=0x84be908 "Ã\n\t\b#\207", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x857c2c8) at bytecode.c:746 #39 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=139954308, nargs=1, args=0xbfffe844) at bytecode.c:515 #40 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffe840) at eval.c:3563 #41 0x080837b2 in Fcall_interactively (function=137973100, record_flag=135981612, keys=135981588) at callint.c:940 #42 0x080a2600 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=137973100, record_flag=135981612, keys=135981588) at eval.c:2970 #43 0x080a375e in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffec94) at eval.c:3528 #44 0x0807f505 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x8531ba8 "\r\035Æ\rÇa«\004Ȫ$\rÉk«\004ʪ\034\r¨«\aËÌ\r\"ª\022\r:«\r \r@¨«\bËÌ\r@\"ª\002Í!\024)\t«Kt«HÎ\f!\f\032\eÏ\fÐ\"\210\013­8\b¬\023Ñ Ò a«\aÓ pa «\006Ô \210ª\004Õ \210Ö×!­\eØÙË\013A«\004Úª\002Û\nÜ\013!#\"\210Ö\016\036!\210ÝÙ! *\207Ï\fÐ\"\207", stack_depth=7, constants_data=0x82353e0) at bytecode.c:746 #45 0x0807f17a in funcall_compiled_function (fun=136496116, nargs=1, args=0xbfffee04) at bytecode.c:515 #46 0x080a3878 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffee00) at eval.c:3563 #47 0x080837b2 in Fcall_interactively (function=136530204, record_flag=135981588, keys=135981588) at callint.c:940 #48 0x080a2600 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=136530204, record_flag=135981588, keys=135981588) at eval.c:2970 #49 0x080bc2fa in execute_command_event (command_builder=0x8371af8, event=138016728) at event-stream.c:3915 #50 0x080bca8a in Fdispatch_event (event=138016552) at event-stream.c:4247 #51 0x08087cfd in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:583 #52 0x080a0dfe in condition_case_1 (handlers=135981684, bfun=0x8087f30 , barg=135981588, hfun=0x8087fc0 , harg=135981588) at eval.c:1651 #53 0x0808818b in command_loop_2 (dummy=135981588) at cmdloop.c:256 #54 0x080a0cca in internal_catch (tag=136057684, func=0x8088160 , arg=135981588, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1317 #55 0x08087a22 in initial_command_loop (load_me=135981588) at cmdloop.c:305 #56 0x0809e232 in xemacs_21_4_5_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2353 #57 0x0809e957 in main () at emacs.c:2782 #58 0x401230de in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 M-x describe-installation: -------------------------- uname -a: Linux bjork 2.4.3-20mdk #1 Sun Apr 15 23:03:10 CEST 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-menubars=no' '--with-toolbars=no' XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /root/xemacs-21.4.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmi\ ssing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. --=-=-= -- Adrian Aichner Teradyne GmbH, European Design Center Integra Test Division Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-115 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner@teradyne.com --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 07:56:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA30263; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:56:01 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA30148; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:54:16 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02297; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA11682; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:54:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA28923; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:49:27 +0100 (MET) To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: [don-temp52998413@isis.cs3-inc.com (Don Cohen)] fatal error (11) - again X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 05 Nov 2001 13:54:28 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 668 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline X-From-Line: don-temp52998413@isis.cs3-inc.com Mon Nov 05 12:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([207.96.122.8]) by mailin04.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 160hnn-16GWmWa; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:20:27 +0100 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA25309; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 06:17:33 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02614; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:43:02 -0500 Received: from isis.cs3-inc.com (isis.cs3-inc.com [207.224.119.73]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02565 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:42:09 -0500 Received: (from don@localhost) by isis.cs3-inc.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fA3Hcjf00605 for crashes@xemacs.org; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:38:45 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:38:45 -0800 Message-Id: <200111031738.fA3Hcjf00605@isis.cs3-inc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: isis.cs3-inc.com: don set sender to don-temp52998413 using -f X-Authentication-Warning: isis.cs3-inc.com: Processed from queue /var/spool/mqueue X-Authentication-Warning: isis.cs3-inc.com: Processed by don with -C /etc/sendmail.cf From: don-temp52998413@isis.cs3-inc.com (Don Cohen) To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: fatal error (11) - again X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Lines: 619 Xref: D5DC120J Spam:5488 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I begin to think that a few bits in my file system have been corrupted. Again I was not even there at the time of the crash. M-x describe-installation: ================ uname -a: Linux host1.testnetwork 2.2.16-22smp #1 SMP Tue Aug 22 16:39:21 EDT 2000 i686 unknown ./configure XEmacs 21.1.14 "Cuyahoga Valley" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Where should the build process find the source code? /root/xemacs-21.1.14 What installation prefix should install use? /usr/local What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/linux.h' and `m/intel386.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes (Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.) Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11R6/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11R6/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG image handling. Compiling in support for (builtin) GIF image handling. Compiling in support for JPEG image handling. Compiling in support for TIFF image handling. Compiling in native sound support. Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. Using Lisp_Objects with minimal tagbits. ================ screen dump(s) - small amounts may have been lost when the screen was filled by gdb - I've marked those places ================ [don@isis don]$ xemacs -nw Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. If you have access to the PROBLEMS file that came with your version of XEmacs, please check to see if your crash is described there, as there may be a workaround available. Otherwise, please report this bug by running the send-pr script included with XEmacs, or selecting `Send Bug Report' >from the help menu. As a last resort send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the information in the command M-x describe-installation. If at all possible, *please* try to obtain a C stack backtrace; it will help us immensely in determining what went wrong. To do this, locate the core file that was produced as a result of this crash (it's usually called `core' and is located in the directory in which you started the editor, or maybe in your home directory), and type gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core then type `where' when the debugger prompt comes up. (If you don't have GDB on your system, you might have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. A similar procedure should work for all of these. Ask your system administrator if you need more help.) Lisp backtrace follows: Segmentation fault (core dumped) You have mail in /var/spool/mail/don [don@isis don]$ ... This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"... Core was generated by `xemacs -nw'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpng.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libz.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libdl.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/ld-linux.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_files.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_files.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnsl.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnsl.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_nis.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_nis.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_dns.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_dns.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libresolv.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libresolv.so.2 #0 0x4030ddd1 in __kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) ... where #0 0x4030ddd1 in __kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x809fef2 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at emacs.c:264 #2 #3 mark_object (obj=405280852) at alloc.c:3196 #4 0x80d2087 in mark_extent_auxiliary (obj=142027160, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at extents.c:917 #5 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142027160) at alloc.c:3208 #6 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=143550972, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #7 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141984496) at alloc.c:3208 #8 0x80d22ae in mark_extent_info (obj=143753096, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at extents.c:1000 #9 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143753096) at alloc.c:3208 #10 0x807fd02 in mark_buffer (obj=142521488, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at buffer.c:235 #11 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143049824) at alloc.c:3208 #12 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=143049812, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #13 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143049812) at alloc.c:3208 #14 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=141907880, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #15 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141907880) at alloc.c:3208 #16 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=142068256, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #17 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143309828) at alloc.c:3208 #18 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=142735968, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #19 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142735968) at alloc.c:3208 #20 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=142844928, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #21 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142361616) at alloc.c:3208 #22 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=142735800, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #23 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142735800) at alloc.c:3208 #24 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=142844768, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #25 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142361588) at alloc.c:3208 #26 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=142735520, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #27 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142361364) at alloc.c:3208 #28 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137488036, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #29 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142361280) at alloc.c:3208 #30 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137599848, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #31 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137599848) at alloc.c:3208 #32 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142921420, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #33 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=136935964) at alloc.c:3208 #34 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137048152, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #35 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143491736) at alloc.c:3208 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- ... #36 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=143496096, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #37 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143496108) at alloc.c:3208 #38 0x80a6e55 in mark_compiled_function (obj=143463328, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at eval.c:264 #39 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143463328) at alloc.c:3208 #40 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138012232, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #41 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138012232) at alloc.c:3208 #42 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=142314792, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #43 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=143463160) at alloc.c:3208 #44 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137645732, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #45 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137591936) at alloc.c:3208 #46 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137716808, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #47 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137716748) at alloc.c:3208 #48 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137731624, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #49 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137731624) at alloc.c:3208 #50 0x8136d1c in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=138985016, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:910 #51 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138985016) at alloc.c:3208 #52 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=136951588, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #53 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=136951588) at alloc.c:3208 #54 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137868332, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #55 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137868332) at alloc.c:3208 #56 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137868320, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #57 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138032136) at alloc.c:3208 #58 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=137028888, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #59 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137028888) at alloc.c:3208 #60 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=137476992, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #61 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137476992) at alloc.c:3208 #62 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=137590972, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #63 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142175464) at alloc.c:3208 #64 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142175452, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #65 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142185348) at alloc.c:3208 #66 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=141936928, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #67 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141936928) at alloc.c:3208 #68 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=137448360, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #69 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137448360) at alloc.c:3208 #70 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=137226616, markobj=0x807f9ec ) ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- ... at symbols.c:99 #71 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137485384) at alloc.c:3208 #72 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137485156, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #73 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137485144) at alloc.c:3208 #74 0x807fbf7 in mark_buffer (obj=141124328, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:88 #75 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141124328) at alloc.c:3208 #76 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=142736976, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #77 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142736976) at alloc.c:3208 #78 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=137525176, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #79 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137525176) at alloc.c:3208 #80 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=144073192, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #81 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=144073192) at alloc.c:3208 #82 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=144073204, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #83 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=144073216) at alloc.c:3208 #84 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=139821248, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #85 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139821248) at alloc.c:3208 #86 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=137661192, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #87 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137661192) at alloc.c:3208 #88 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=136983172, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #89 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138174284) at alloc.c:3208 #90 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137951564, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #91 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137951468) at alloc.c:3208 #92 0x80a6e5b in mark_compiled_function (obj=138851320, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at eval.c:265 #93 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138851320) at alloc.c:3208 #94 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138172968, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #95 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138172968) at alloc.c:3208 #96 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138775120, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #97 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138851376) at alloc.c:3208 #98 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138772484, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #99 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138772484) at alloc.c:3208 #100 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138619480, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #101 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138619480) at alloc.c:3208 #102 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137880960, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #103 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137880996) at alloc.c:3208 #104 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=138772204, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- ... #105 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138772204) at alloc.c:3208 #106 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138175576, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #107 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138026800) at alloc.c:3208 #108 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138371904, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #109 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138371904) at alloc.c:3208 #110 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138178280, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #111 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138904068) at alloc.c:3208 #112 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138371932, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #113 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138371932) at alloc.c:3208 #114 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138982232, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #115 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138906896) at alloc.c:3208 #116 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137706316, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #117 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137706316) at alloc.c:3208 #118 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138035820, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #119 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138035820) at alloc.c:3208 #120 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138035784, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #121 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137132492) at alloc.c:3208 #122 0x8136b58 in mark_symbol (obj=137287064, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:107 #123 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138547404) at alloc.c:3208 #124 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138754224, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #125 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138027780) at alloc.c:3208 #126 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138547236, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #127 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138547236) at alloc.c:3208 #128 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138728768, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #129 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138027752) at alloc.c:3208 #130 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138546704, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #131 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138546704) at alloc.c:3208 #132 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138728576, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #133 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137794252) at alloc.c:3208 #134 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137168792, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #135 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138219896) at alloc.c:3208 #136 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138629136, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #137 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=136929252) at alloc.c:3208 #138 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=137033468, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #139 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137033420) at alloc.c:3208 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- ... #140 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=136950972, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #141 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=136950972) at alloc.c:3208 #142 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142186028, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #143 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142186136) at alloc.c:3208 #144 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138039232, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #145 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138039088) at alloc.c:3208 #146 0x8136b58 in mark_symbol (obj=137828908, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:107 #147 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137828908) at alloc.c:3208 #148 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138039160, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #149 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138039160) at alloc.c:3208 #150 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=138039136, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #151 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142179524) at alloc.c:3208 #152 0x8136b58 in mark_symbol (obj=137828740, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:107 #153 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138278896) at alloc.c:3208 #154 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139663768, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #155 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138935256) at alloc.c:3208 #156 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138278980, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #157 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138278980) at alloc.c:3208 #158 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139853288, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #159 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139853288) at alloc.c:3208 #160 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=139841844, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #161 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139841820) at alloc.c:3208 #162 0x80a6e5b in mark_compiled_function (obj=138935676, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at eval.c:265 #163 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138935676) at alloc.c:3208 #164 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139351940, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #165 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139351940) at alloc.c:3208 #166 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137802312, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #167 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137694384) at alloc.c:3208 #168 0x80fe707 in mark_keymap (obj=137617344, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at keymap.c:266 #169 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137617344) at alloc.c:3208 #170 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137266608, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #171 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138052136) at alloc.c:3208 #172 0x80fe707 in mark_keymap (obj=137903144, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at keymap.c:266 #173 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137903144) at alloc.c:3208 #174 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138706424, markobj=0x807f9ec ) ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- at alloc.c:1317 #175 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138706056) at alloc.c:3208 #176 0x80fe707 in mark_keymap (obj=138033880, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at keymap.c:266 #177 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138033880) at alloc.c:3208 #178 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137917456, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #179 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138705864) at alloc.c:3208 #180 0x80fe707 in mark_keymap (obj=138129008, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at keymap.c:266 #181 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138129008) at alloc.c:3208 #182 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=138487412, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #183 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138487412) at alloc.c:3208 #184 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138705568, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #185 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138026660) at alloc.c:3208 #186 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137739856, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #187 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137739856) at alloc.c:3208 #188 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138692928, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #189 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138027304) at alloc.c:3208 #190 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137414492, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #191 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137414492) at alloc.c:3208 #192 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=138693336, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #193 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138027388) at alloc.c:3208 #194 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137186616, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #195 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137186616) at alloc.c:3208 #196 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137186588, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #197 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137292660) at alloc.c:3208 #198 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139154880, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #199 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152808) at alloc.c:3208 #200 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139090968, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #201 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139090968) at alloc.c:3208 #202 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=139090940, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #203 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139090940) at alloc.c:3208 #204 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137151936, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #205 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138908436) at alloc.c:3208 #206 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091472, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #207 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139091472) at alloc.c:3208 #208 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139154776, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #209 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152780) at alloc.c:3208 #210 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139090912, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #211 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139090912) at alloc.c:3208 #212 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=139090884, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #213 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139090884) at alloc.c:3208 #214 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137151896, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #215 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138908408) at alloc.c:3208 #216 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091640, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #217 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152920) at alloc.c:3208 #218 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091920, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #219 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139091920) at alloc.c:3208 #220 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139155024, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #221 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152836) at alloc.c:3208 #222 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091892, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #223 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139091892) at alloc.c:3208 #224 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=139155144, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #225 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139152892) at alloc.c:3208 #226 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=139091360, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #227 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139091360) at alloc.c:3208 #228 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=137151312, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #229 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138908184) at alloc.c:3208 #230 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=137648008, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #231 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139212900) at alloc.c:3208 #232 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=139212912, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #233 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142645264) at alloc.c:3208 #234 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=138983048, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #235 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138983048) at alloc.c:3208 #236 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=137243760, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #237 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137243760) at alloc.c:3208 #238 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=137389500, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #239 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=137389500) at alloc.c:3208 #240 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142151432, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #241 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142151432) at alloc.c:3208 #242 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=142151372, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #243 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142151372) at alloc.c:3208 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #244 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=142859296, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #245 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142859296) at alloc.c:3208 #246 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=139760472, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #247 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139760472) at alloc.c:3208 #248 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=139380068, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #249 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141940284) at alloc.c:3208 #250 0x807f7a1 in mark_cons (obj=141940344, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1123 #251 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=141940344) at alloc.c:3208 #252 0x807fbdc in mark_buffer (obj=142002384, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at bufslots.h:79 #253 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=142002384) at alloc.c:3208 #254 0x8136d28 in mark_symbol_value_buffer_local (obj=138929816, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:912 #255 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138929816) at alloc.c:3208 #256 0x8136b33 in mark_symbol (obj=139379564, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:99 #257 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139379564) at alloc.c:3208 #258 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=140031176, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #259 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139941200) at alloc.c:3208 #260 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=140031240, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #261 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=139941228) at alloc.c:3208 #262 0x8136b39 in mark_symbol (obj=138705084, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at symbols.c:100 #263 0x807fa40 in mark_object (obj=138705084) at alloc.c:3208 #264 0x807f840 in mark_vector (obj=136847448, markobj=0x807f9ec ) at alloc.c:1317 #265 0x807d319 in garbage_collect_1 () at alloc.c:3208 #266 0x807d98e in Fgarbage_collect () at alloc.c:4695 #267 0x80a3522 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=136846796, nargs=0, args=0xbfffe890) at eval.c:3197 #268 0x80a6cc4 in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffe890) at eval.c:3238 #269 0x8085275 in Fbyte_code (bytestr=136490932, vector=136491120, maxdepth=11) at bytecode.c:416 #270 0x80a4299 in funcall_lambda (fun=136491304, nargs=0, arg_vector=0xbfffeb04) at eval.c:3607 #271 0x80a3630 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=137629236, nargs=0, args=0xbfffeb00) at eval.c:3214 #272 0x80a6cc4 in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffeb00) at eval.c:3238 #273 0x8085275 in Fbyte_code (bytestr=136487604, vector=136487684, maxdepth=9) at bytecode.c:416 #274 0x80a2f29 in Feval (form=136487580) at eval.c:3063 #275 0x80a11b5 in condition_case_1 (handlers=136487808, bfun=0x80a26bc , barg=136487580, hfun=0x80a11f8 , harg=137628620) at eval.c:1653 #276 0x80a69a1 in condition_case_3 (bodyform=136487580, var=137628620, handlers=136487808) at eval.c:1718 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #277 0x808568c in Fbyte_code (bytestr=136486948, vector=136487248, maxdepth=17) at bytecode.c:576 #278 0x80a4299 in funcall_lambda (fun=136488212, nargs=1, arg_vector=0xbffff524) at eval.c:3607 #279 0x80a3630 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=137628424, nargs=1, args=0xbffff520) at eval.c:3214 #280 0x80a6cc4 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbffff520) at eval.c:3238 #281 0x8085275 in Fbyte_code (bytestr=136490364, vector=136490432, maxdepth=11) at bytecode.c:416 #282 0x80a4299 in funcall_lambda (fun=136490516, nargs=1, arg_vector=0xbffff6ac) at eval.c:3607 #283 0x80a3630 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=137628872, nargs=1, args=0xbffff6a8) at eval.c:3214 #284 0x80a5d24 in call1 (fn=137628872, arg0=136845396) at eval.c:3238 #285 0x80c3a80 in execute_internal_event (event=144007064) at event-stream.c:3044 #286 0x80c5c69 in Fdispatch_event (event=144007064) at event-stream.c:4691 #287 0x808b807 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:579 #288 0x80a11b5 in condition_case_1 (handlers=136845508, bfun=0x808b9d0 , barg=136845396, hfun=0x808ba4c , harg=136845396) at eval.c:1653 #289 0x808bc30 in command_loop_2 (dummy=136845396) at cmdloop.c:256 #290 0x80a1089 in internal_catch (tag=136919768, func=0x808bbec , arg=136845396, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1328 #291 0x808b518 in initial_command_loop (load_me=136845396) at cmdloop.c:305 #292 0x809eb08 in sort_args (argc=2, argv=0xbffffb34) at emacs.c:1725 #293 0x809f194 in main (argc=2, argv=0xbffffb34, envp=0xbffffb40) at emacs.c:2142 #294 0x402fcf31 in __libc_start_main (main=0x809f080
, argc=2, ubp_av=0xbffffb34, init=0x80774f8 <_init>, fini=0x81686ac <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000e274 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffb2c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 (gdb) --=-=-= -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 08:12:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA31471; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 08:12:07 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA31438; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 08:11:40 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160jWe-0003ck-00; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 22:10:52 +0900 To: Adrian Aichner Cc: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [Matt Pharr ] core dump in 21.4 (patch5) when trying to run recent version of gnus References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 05 Nov 2001 22:10:52 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87u1w9mkgz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: APA> Shouldn't erradicate crashes@xemacs.org and ask for reports APA> to xemacs-beta@xemacs.org instead? This may be built in to send-pr or something like that. I know I haven't told anyone to use that address ;-) I think it's also useful to distinguish different levels of priority, and eventually we want these reports not to go to xemacs-beta anyway, most testers would probably rather not see them. We want them to go directly to a bug tracking system. So giving xemacs-beta as an explicit bug-report address seems like a bad idea to me. If you're worried about the mail being held by mailman, I just fixed that by adding crashes as an alias to xemacs-beta. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 14:16:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA01096; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:16:14 -0500 Received: from zabor.mo.msk.ru (ns3.protection.ru [195.170.194.222] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA01014; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:15:31 -0500 Received: from d-fens.vdata.ru (d-fens.vdata.ru [192.168.168.62]) by zabor.mo.msk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA01889; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:15:07 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from gin@mo.msk.ru) Received: (gin@localhost) by d-fens.vdata.ru (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id TAA12246; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 19:15:17 GMT Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 19:15:17 (GMT) Message-ID: <02573be6e54517-gin@mo.msk.ru> From: "Golubev I. N." To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-reply-to: <87k7x6qfgx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Subject: Re: tm & gnus Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , That historical discourse about emacs MUAs is very interesting, but how do I MIME-encode headers and create attachments in that same gnus? Its own '.texi' does not say much about it. All I have is MML menus. What if I am on tty? How do I control charset of encoded words in headers? It appears that current version of gnus lacks documentation badly. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 14:44:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04100; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:44:02 -0500 Received: from lie.extundo.com (lie.extundo.com [195.42.214.244]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04006; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:43:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by lie.extundo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA5Jgxd25495; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:42:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lie.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:42:58 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Josefsson To: "Golubev I. N." cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: Re: tm & gnus In-Reply-To: <02573be6e54517-gin@mo.msk.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Golubev I. N. wrote: > That historical discourse about emacs MUAs is very interesting, but > how do I MIME-encode headers and create attachments in that same gnus? Headers are automatically encoded when necessary, attachments are made with C-c C-a in the message buffer or via the menu. > Its own '.texi' does not say much about it. All I have is MML menus. Composing mail is described in the Message manual. > What if I am on tty? Gnus doesn't notice the difference, > How do I control charset of encoded words in headers? If you type a Latin-2 character, the latin-2 MIME type will be used. Etc, you do not normally need to indicate to Gnus anything about the charsets, but for details see the Emacs MIME manual. > It appears that current version of gnus lacks documentation badly. Did you see the Message and Emacs-MIME manuals? I think most of what you ask are covered by them. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 17:09:44 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA19736; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 17:09:03 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (dhcp-64-104-196-118.cisco.com [64.104.196.118]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA19664 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 17:08:06 -0500 Received: (from hdasch@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fA5M5v909965; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:05:57 +1100 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:05:57 +1100 Message-Id: <200111052205.fA5M5v909965@localhost.localdomain> From: Hugh Daschbach To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Hard loop in XtAppPending when X server killed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! When running "xemacs -unmapped -f gnuserver &" the xemacs process survives the loss of the X server on which it was started. But it falls into a hard loop in XtAppPending called from emacs_Xt_event_pending_p. It proceeds to consume all available CPU cycles. I've seen this problem on Linux and on Solaris. The easiest way to reproduce this is to ssh with X forwarding to a system running X. This could be as simple as "ssh -X localhost". Then start xemacs with "xemacs -unmapped -f gnuserver &". Give it a moment to initialize, then kill the local ssh process. Then "top" should indicate that xemacs is running 100% CPU. (gdb) bt #0 _wordcopy_fwd_aligned (dstp=2147479140, srcp=28106292, len=24) at ../sysdeps/generic/wordcopy.c:112 #1 0x121b3d8 in memcpy (dstpp=0x7fffee48, srcpp=0x1acde34, len=128) at ../sysdeps/generic/memcpy.c:55 #2 0x1626b64 in XtChangeManagedSet () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #3 0x16272d0 in _XtWaitForSomething () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #4 0x1628f58 in XtAppPending () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #5 0x1977ab4 in emacs_Xt_event_pending_p (user_p=1) at event-Xt.c:2907 #6 0x18aa778 in detect_input_pending () at event-stream.c:892 #7 0x1938584 in redisplay_device (d=0x1b0c3b0, automatic=28106292) at redisplay.c:6459 #8 0x1938980 in redisplay_without_hooks () at redisplay.c:6563 #9 0x193ec28 in redisplay () at redisplay.c:6620 #10 0x18ac050 in Fnext_event (event=29475516, prompt=805682808) at event-stream.c:2178 #11 0x184f9e0 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:574 #12 0x184fca0 in command_loop_1 (dummy=2147479140) at cmdloop.c:494 #13 0x1870924 in condition_case_1 (handlers=0, bfun=0x184fc7c , barg=805682808, hfun=0x184fd48 , harg=805682808) at eval.c:1651 #14 0x184feb4 in command_loop_2 (dummy=2147479140) at cmdloop.c:256 #15 0x187a920 in internal_catch (tag=2147479140, func=0x184fe48 , arg=805682808, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1317 #16 0x184f594 in initial_command_loop (load_me=28106292) at cmdloop.c:305 #17 0x186ced0 in sort_args (argc=0, argv=0x1ac9b08) at emacs.c:2353 #18 0x186d740 in main (argc=2147479140, argv=0x1acde34, envp=0x18) at emacs.c:2720 #19 0x11ba0f8 in __libc_start_main (argc=4, ubp_av=0x7ffff9a4, ubp_ev=0x18, auxvec=0x7ffffa48, rtld_fini=0x7fffee64, stinfo=0x19a7cb0, stack_on_entry=0x12b6750) at ../sysdeps/powerpc/elf/libc-start.c:119 (gdb) frame 5 #5 0x1977ab4 in emacs_Xt_event_pending_p (user_p=1) at event-Xt.c:2907 2907 XtAppProcessEvent (Xt_app_con, XtIMXEvent); (gdb) b 2907 Breakpoint 1 at 0x1977a9c: file event-Xt.c, line 2907. (gdb) c Continuing. Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt. 0x1261ea0 in select () at soinit.c:64 64 soinit.c: No such file or directory. (gdb) kill Kill the program being debugged? (y or n) y (gdb) qui ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.4.8-0.4c #1 Wed Aug 8 16:02:33 MDT 2001 ppc unknown ./configure '--prefix=/usr/local' '--with-gpm=no' '--with-sound=no' '--with-pop' '--mail-locking=lockf' '--with-clash-detection' '--debug=yes' '--error-checking=none' '--with-mule=no' '--with-database=berkdb' '--with-ldap' '--with-hesiod=no' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-scrollbars=lucid' '--with-dialogs=lucid' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-canna=no' '--with-wnn=no' '--with-wnn6=no' '--with-msw=no' '--with-xfs=yes' '--with-file-coding=yes' '--with-xpm' '--with-png' '--pdump' XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `powerpc-unknown-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /root/xemacs-21.4.4 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/powerpc.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Databases: Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Compiling in support for file coding. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "lockf" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. 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Reading active file from archive via nnfolder... nnimap: Checking mailboxes...done nnimap: Checking mailbox INBOX From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 18:01:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24980; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:01:06 -0500 Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.101]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA24771; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 17:59:37 -0500 Received: from d1o891.telia.com (d1o891.telia.com [213.66.124.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA5Mxaw11872; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:59:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from blixten2 (h169n2fls33o891.telia.com [217.208.70.169]) by d1o891.telia.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with SMTP id fA5MxZU07814; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:59:35 +0100 (CET) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 00:01:47 +0100 Message-ID: <01C16656.3A6E1CC0.08.58016472@telia.com> From: Jerker Haglund <08.58016472@telia.com> Reply-To: "08.58016472@telia.com" <08.58016472@telia.com> To: Mats Lidell , "'Stephen J. Turnbull'" Cc: "xemacs-beta@xemacs.org" Subject: RE: Tutorial out of date? Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 00:01:46 +0100 Organization: GigaSoft X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id RAA24771 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , If you send me a copy I'll take a look at it too. By the way, did you see this: http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-mule/200110/msg00006.html /J. Haglund > Stephen> Docs are always welcome. It would be nice to have a > Stephen> second opinion on it before you submit it. > > Mats> I have submitted it to Björn for proofreading. I'll submit > Mats> it after I get feedback from him. > > Mats> I'm sure others will have views on it when exposed to the > Mats> public and isn't that a convenient way to fix it? It isn't > Mats> code so it will hardly break something if included. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 20:39:57 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA04754; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:38:29 -0500 Received: from lists.samba.org (samba.sourceforge.net [198.186.203.85]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA04634 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:37:05 -0500 Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1075) id 71C374AE2; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 17:35:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:31:53 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Martin Schwenke" Reply-To: "Martin Schwenke" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Bundle updated eiffel-mode.el rather than eiffel3.el? X-Mailer: VM 6.97 under Emacs 21.1.1 Message-Id: <20011106013558.71C374AE2@lists.samba.org> Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I've been maintaining an updated eiffel-mode.el based on (a close relative of) the eiffel3.el mode distributed with XEmacs. My update is available at: http://meltin.net/hacks/emacs/src/eiffel-mode.el I've tested it under XEmacs several times, it seems to work and it is under reasonably constant development. Do you think it is worth including eiffel-mode.el instead of eiffel3.el with XEmacs? If someone does decide to bundle eiffel-mode.el, how would I contribute new versions? Sorry, I'm not on xemacs-beta, so if anyone does reply, can they please copy me in? Yep, I hate it when people as that one mailing lists... :-) peace & happiness, martin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 22:22:26 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA12121; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:21:59 -0500 Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA11785; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:17:10 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011106031706.LDHO25636.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 19:17:06 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: "XEmacs Patches" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 19:17:13 -0800 Message-ID: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <87ofmhpynn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , And your suggestion is? The comparison is done against insert-file-contents which will have already applied those auto-detected things. So right now I believe that it should be safe in these environments. andy > -----Original Message----- > From: xemacs-patches-admin@xemacs.org > [mailto:xemacs-patches-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 9:36 PM > To: Andy Piper > Cc: XEmacs Patches > Subject: [VETO] Revert buffer patch > > > VETO > > At the very least, do not default it on. And add documentation that > the implications are unclear in environments like Mule and > file-coding which apply auto-detected transformations to the buffer. > > >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: > > 2001-11-02 Andy Piper > * files.el (revert-uses-md5-equality): New. > * files.el (revert-buffer): optimize reversion of files that have > only had their permissions and modtime changed. > > This patch is surely broken in a Mule environment and possibly with eg > jka-compr. You need to be a lot more careful about how you match the > state (coding systems, etc) of the tmp buffer to the user's buffer > before you insert the file. > > The common failures are all "safe" (unnecessary reversions occur) but > I can think of ways to make this fail harmfully by manipulating coding > systems, and with the right file contents. I can't imagine a user > doing those things, but it does suggest the possibility that there > could be natural behavior that creates a buffer that needs reversion > but doesn't get it. We shouldn't risk that. > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences > http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba > 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 22:54:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA14347; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:54:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA14334 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:53:56 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160xHa-0004OJ-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:52:14 +0900 To: "Martin Schwenke" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Bundle updated eiffel-mode.el rather than eiffel3.el? References: <20011106013558.71C374AE2@lists.samba.org> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 06 Nov 2001 12:52:14 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011106013558.71C374AE2@lists.samba.org> Message-ID: <87668omu8h.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 53 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Martin" == Martin Schwenke writes: Martin> Do you think it is worth including eiffel-mode.el instead Martin> of eiffel3.el with XEmacs? Probably we would want to include both, as long as there are no file name conflicts that can't be resolved by one party or the other renaming. Cf. the AUC-TeX package vs the ancient tex-mode.el in the core Lisp. The easiest way to do this is to add the file(s) to an existing package. This is appropriate for mode (1) below. It is not much more difficult to create a new, separate package. This would be preferred for modes (2) and (3) below. Check out some of the package sources, and look at the Makefile and pkg-info.in file for a couple of small ones. It's not very difficult, and we'd be happy to help with it. Martin> If someone does decide to bundle eiffel-mode.el, how would Martin> I contribute new versions? There are three modes for this: (1) You don't want to deal with XEmacs bureacracy at all. Send patches to xemacs-patches@xemacs.org and the XEmacs Development Team will review them and apply if appropriate. They will appear in the package distribution on a regular basis. The XEmacs Development Team will take responsibility for synchronization, and may also make its own changes. (2) You want direct access to the XEmacs repository for updating, but don't really want to be maintainer of record. We give you CVS commit access, you commit your changes, you tell the XEmacs package czar (currently Steve Youngs) you'd like a new package released, and he does so on his schedule. Other XEmacs developers will commit bug fixes etc as appropriate. (3) You want full control of the XEmacs package. You are maintainer of record, and provide contact addresses for the following aliases: eiffel-mode-{bugs,patches,discuss,maintainer}@xemacs.org. (Typically for a small package they'll all just go to you.) You will review all proposed patches to the library, and XEmacs will only commit without your permission in cases of critical bugs where you cannot be contacted. You have commit access to the repository for this purpose. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 23:04:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA15033; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:04:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA14783 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:00:22 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160xOg-0004Os-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:59:34 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [comp.emacs.xemacs] 21.4.5, re_match_2_internal and cygwin 1.3.2 Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 06 Nov 2001 12:59:34 +0900 Message-ID: <87wv14lfbt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Path: hagi.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp!nadesico.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp!news-sv.sinet!news.kanazawa-u.ac.jp!news1!toyama-ix.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!btnet-peer1!btnet-peer0!btnet-peer!btnet!xara.net!gxn.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!newsfeed.ed.ac.uk!news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: 21.4.5, re_match_2_internal and cygwin 1.3.2 Date: 05 Nov 2001 16:03:00 +0000 Organization: HCRC or CCS, University of Edinburgh Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mcilvanney.cogsci.ed.ac.uk X-Trace: pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk 1004976125 43088 129.215.197.22 (5 Nov 2001 16:02:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@cogsci.ed.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Nov 2001 16:02:05 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) XEmacs/21.2(beta13) (Demeter) Xref: hagi.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp comp.emacs.xemacs:14372 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm getting segfaults at re_match_2_internal (from font_lock, although I don't think that's germain) with the cygwin version of xemacs, installed prebuilt (using the new installer -- definitely a good thing!). The archives suggest this is a stack overflow/malloc/alloca issue. I'm using the recent cygwin, 1.3.2, and the most recent cygwin prebuilt, namely 21.4.5 Sorry if this is a FAQ, but is this a cygwin problem or an xemacs problem, and is there anything I can do to fix it? thanks ht -- Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of Edinburgh W3C Fellow 1999--2001, part-time member of W3C Team 2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh EH8 9LW, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ --=-=-= -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 23:18:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16006; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:18:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA15954; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:17:11 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160xex-0004RJ-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 13:16:23 +0900 To: "Andy Piper" Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 06 Nov 2001 13:16:23 +0900 In-Reply-To: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Message-ID: <87snbslejs.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , xemacs-patches removed from cc list. >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> And your suggestion is? The comparison is done against Andy> insert-file-contents which will have already applied those Andy> auto-detected things. And what if the user intentionally _hasn't_? The point is that this works correctly in the most common case but it does absolutely _nothing_ to handle cases where the user knows better than the autodetect logic. OK, here's an automatic example that hits you where you live. Text file. Autodetect EOL. In the repository, somebody global-replaces LF with CRLF. Buffer needs reversion, your algorithm gets it wrong. The best thing I can think of is to save the buffer to a temporary file and compare that with the file on disk. Use insert-file-contents-literally if you're going to do in an in Emacs buffer. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 5 23:20:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16176; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:20:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16073 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:18:38 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160xgH-0004RT-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 13:17:45 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [comp.emacs.xemacs] Re: 21.4.5, re_match_2_internal and cygwin 1.3.2 Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 06 Nov 2001 13:17:45 +0900 Message-ID: <87ofmglehi.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Path: hagi.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp!nadesico.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp!news-sv.sinet!news.kanazawa-u.ac.jp!news1!toyama-ix.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.r-kom.de!fu-berlin.de!server1.netnews.ja.net!newsfeed.ed.ac.uk!news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: Re: 21.4.5, re_match_2_internal and cygwin 1.3.2 Date: 05 Nov 2001 16:20:52 +0000 Organization: HCRC or CCS, University of Edinburgh Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mcilvanney.cogsci.ed.ac.uk X-Trace: pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk 1004977197 43088 129.215.197.22 (5 Nov 2001 16:19:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@cogsci.ed.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Nov 2001 16:19:57 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) XEmacs/21.2(beta13) (Demeter) Xref: hagi.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp comp.emacs.xemacs:14375 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just rolled back to 21.4.3, and the problem does not _appear_ to occur there -- of course, if it's memory allocation issue, small differences can move problems around . . . ht -- Henry S. 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------=_NextPart_000_8BD0_01C16648.358C4C30-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 00:40:39 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA20714; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 00:40:04 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA20680 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 00:39:14 -0500 Received: (qmail 24296 invoked by uid 0); 6 Nov 2001 05:39:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ROVER) (205.252.49.14) by mail.gmx.net (mp003-rz3) with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 05:39:06 -0000 X-Mailer: emacs 21.1.1 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I); VM 6.96 under Emacs 21.1.1 From: "Dhruva Krishnamurthy" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15335.30716.30000.2261@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:11:16 +0530 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-crash@xemacs.org Subject: Crash when GNUS is used Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I faced a reproducible crash in XEmacs when I use GNUS. The type and build information is as follows. I used "i.exe" to get the trace in console. Also, I found the GNUS package is not the latest and is out of date. Emacs uses v5.9. XEmacs 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32, Mule) -------------------------------------------------------------- F:\Emacs [dky]i xemacs -no-init-file -no-site-file Fatal error. Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. If you have access to the PROBLEMS file that came with your version of XEmacs, please check to see if your crash is described there, as there may be a workaround available. Otherwise, please report this bug by running the send-pr script included with XEmacs, or selecting `Send Bug Report' from the help menu. As a last resort send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the information in the command M-x describe-installation. Lisp backtrace follows: open-network-stream-internal("nntpd" # "news" "nntp" nil) # bind (coding-system-for-read coding-system-for-write cs-r cs-w prot= ocol service host buffer name) open-network-stream("nntpd" # = "news" "nntp") # bind (buffer) nntp-open-network-stream(#) # bind (coding-system-for-read coding-system-for-write) byte-code("..." [pbuffer nntp-open-connection-function coding-system-= for-read coding-system-for-write nntp-coding-system-for-write nntp-codi= ng-system-for-read] 2) # (condition-case ... . ((error) (quit (byte-code "--!=EA!=EA-+=A6\"=EA= =A6=E7" ... 3)))) # bind (timer pbuffer buffer) nntp-open-connection(#) # bind (connectionless defs server) nntp-open-server("news" nil) # bind (elem gnus-command-method) gnus-open-server((nntp "news")) # bind (how confirm) gnus-start-news-server(nil) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (level did-connect slave dont-connect arg) gnus-1(nil nil nil) # bind (slave dont-connect arg) gnus(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(gnus) command-execute(gnus t) # bind (_execute_command_keys_ _execute_command_name_ prefix-arg) execute-extended-command(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(execute-extended-command) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- with regards, dhruva --=20 +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Remaining time multiplied by distress is CONSTANT | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 03:33:50 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA05563; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 03:33:13 -0500 Received: from paracelsus.fdm.uni-freiburg.de (paracelsus.fdm.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.97.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA05529; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 03:32:36 -0500 Received: from zion.fdm.uni-freiburg.de (zion.fdm.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.97.24]) by paracelsus.fdm.uni-freiburg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fA68WTo14602; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:32:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gerds@localhost) by zion.fdm.uni-freiburg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) id fA68WSp00240; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:32:28 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: zion.fdm.uni-freiburg.de: gerds set sender to gerds@fdm.uni-freiburg.de using -f To: Darryl Okahata Cc: Tony Lam , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: X error References: <200111030104.RAA15237@mina.soco.agilent.com> From: Thomas Gerds Date: 06 Nov 2001 09:32:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200111030104.RAA15237@mina.soco.agilent.com> Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Darryl Okahata writes: > Tony Lam wrote: > > > There are numerous report on this error for XEmacs on Solaris and > > AIX(?). It usually occurs after XEmacs is being used for some time(a > > few days), but it almost happens every time on frame re-painting. This > > bug has not been tracked down. > > As far as I can tell, *ANY* X error will cause XEmacs to lock up. > It doesn't seem to matter which one -- once one occurs, XEmacs is dead. > ok, thanks to all of you. i will beware of forcing frame re-paintings in the future :) and shorten the auto-save interval ... tomy -- Signature for mail groups From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 05:16:46 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA10699; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 05:16:10 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA10648; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 05:15:02 -0500 Received: from cemef.cma.fr (cemef.cma.fr [193.54.112.23]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA10633 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 05:14:49 -0500 From: Serge.Algarotti@cemef.cma.fr Received: from vientiane.cma.fr (vientiane.cma.fr [193.54.112.112]) by cemef.cma.fr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA6AEh711893; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:14:44 +0100 Received: from vientiane.cma.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vientiane.cma.fr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA6AEgp01209; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:14:42 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200111061014.fA6AEgp01209@vientiane.cma.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0 To: crashes@xemacs.org cc: Serge.Algarotti@cemef.cma.fr Subject: [CRASH] assertion failed Reply-To: Serge.Algarotti@cemef.cma.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:14:42 +0100 X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hello, I can't run xemacs, I have a crash *each* time I run xemacs: ***** xemacs-21.1.14 compiled with: #gcc --version 2.95.2 under Aix oslevel 4.3.3.0 biot#hostname biot.cma.fr biot# biot#echo $DISPLAY vientiane.cma.fr:0 biot# ******************** when I run xemacs I have: Warning: Cannot parse default background color specification. Fatal error: assertion failed, file specifier.c, line 2458, abort() Fatal error (6). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. If you have access to the PROBLEMS file that came with your version of XEmacs, please check to see if your crash is described there, as there may be a workaround available. Otherwise, please report this bug by running the send-pr script included with XEmacs, or selecting `Send Bug Report' from the help menu. As a last resort send ordinary email to `crashes@xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the information in the command M-x describe-installation. If at all possible, *please* try to obtain a C stack backtrace; it will help us immensely in determining what went wrong. To do this, locate the core file that was produced as a result of this crash (it's usually called `core' and is located in the directory in which you started the editor, or maybe in your home directory), and type gdb /tools/sources/xemacs/xemacs-21.1.14/src/xemacs core then type `where' when the debugger prompt comes up. (If you don't have GDB on your system, you might have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. A similar procedure should work for all of these. Ask your system administrator if you need more help.) Lisp backtrace follows: # bind (frame-being-created) make-frame(nil #) frame-initialize() # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) command-line() # (unwind-protect ...) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) IOT/Abort trap(coredump) biot# ******************** whe I run gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core: biot#gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core GNU gdb 5.0 Copyright 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.3.0"... warning: core file may not match specified executable file. Core was generated by `xemacs-21.1.14'. Program terminated with signal 6, IOT/Abort trap. #0 0x100032a4 in fatal_error_signal (sig=6) at emacs.c:264 264 emacs.c: No such file or directory. (gdb) where #0 0x100032a4 in fatal_error_signal (sig=6) at emacs.c:264 #1 #2 0xd0014c38 in pthread_kill () #3 0xffffffff in ?? () from (unknown load module) (gdb) -- Serge ALGAROTTI [http://www-cemef.cma.fr/] Ecole des Mines de Paris / CEMEF UMR CNRS n° 7635 [tel: 04 93 95 74 02] From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 06:51:42 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA15132; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 06:51:12 -0500 Received: from mailweb14.rediffmail.com ([203.199.83.26]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA15097 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 06:50:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 30795 invoked by uid 510); 6 Nov 2001 11:49:54 -0000 Date: 6 Nov 2001 11:49:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20011106114954.30794.qmail@mailweb14.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (202.60.136.19) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 06 Nov 2001 11:49:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Swati R" Reply-To: "Swati R" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu Subject: Info. On Protocols v/s Interface Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id GAA15097 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I was searching for some info on Protocols v/s Interface thru a search engine and happened to find your website link there. I couldnt really get too much of Info abt what i needed. So i would be really grateful to you if you could gimme some information on Protocols and interface and the difference between them. Hoping to hear from you soon! Thanks a lot! Regards, Swati From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 11:10:57 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA30330; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:10:15 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA30204 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:09:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 73459 invoked by uid 50); 6 Nov 2001 16:09:23 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 73388 invoked by uid 0); 6 Nov 2001 16:09:22 -0000 Received: from dialupd100.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.116.100) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 16:09:22 -0000 Message-ID: <3BE80B5C.8146EFA3@666.com> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:10:04 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, ben@xemacs.org CC: xemacs@xemacs.org Subject: Re: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 References: <87d730rn8b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , i don't see extra specs. what i do see is three specs: one for global, one for the current frame with msprinter tag, one for the current frame with mswindows tag. the bug seems to be that the global one is getting selected even though the current frame ones are more specific and appear to be creatable. [although perhaps this isn't the case. there should be a way of retrieving the failure messages, e.g. have them sent as low-level warnings that normally get ignored.] it's possible this got messed up at some point, e.g. in the process of all of andy's widget code changes. "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > [Ben: live-icon doesn't work. Can you take a quick look and see if > there's anything obvious? Recipe below.] > > Thanks for the followups. > > >>>>> "Dan" == Dan Espen writes: > > Dan> live-icon doesn't work with fvwm2, twm, and dtwm. Thats all > Dan> the wm's I have. It used to work with all of them. > > Thank you. > > Dan> I also tried this: [...] And got this: > > (omitted) > > Dan> I noticed that the ":file" stuff is still in the glyph and > Dan> "xemacs-icon.xpm" is the icon I see. > > Yep. > > Dan> The data from live-icon doesn't seem to be there... > > Well, you _can_ see the color specs (chartreuse is _not_ in the > default icon!!) and the :data is in the ellipsis. In *scratch*, I did > > ;;; Ben, this demonstrates the bug > (specifier-instance (glyph-image frame-icon-glyph)) > # "xemacs-icon.xpm" 48x48x24 (0x800031) 0x1b0b> > > (require 'live-icon) > > (live-icon-one-frame) > > (specifier-instance (glyph-image frame-icon-glyph)) > # "xemacs-icon.xpm" 48x48x24 (0x800031) 0x1b0b> > > (specifier-specs (glyph-image frame-icon-glyph) 'all) > > I've removed all the output except from "specifier-instance" which > confirms your report at the Lisp level. If you do the same, you'll > see the data. > > What appears to be happening is that having multiple options that > specify data in the same spec doesn't give an error, but instead picks > one arbitrarily. So what live-icon should be doing is clearing out > the spec somehow, then adding the new spec. > > Why this is not happening, I don't know yet. The default behavior for > specifiers is "remove existing specs for the tagset and prepend to the > list", which seems sensible. I'm copying xemacs-beta@xemacs.org and > Ben, where something might get done about this. If you're not on > xemacs-beta and don't need to be otherwise, you can follow the thread > with at most 24 hours lag by going to > > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta > > and searching for "live-icon". > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 11:31:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA31872; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:31:06 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA31609 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:29:10 -0500 Received: (qmail 26050 invoked by uid 50); 6 Nov 2001 16:29:08 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 25981 invoked by uid 0); 6 Nov 2001 16:29:07 -0000 Received: from dialupd100.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.116.100) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 16:29:07 -0000 Message-ID: <3BE80FFD.95296D8F@666.com> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:29:49 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Piper CC: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , XEmacs Patches , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper wrote: > > And your suggestion is? The comparison is done against insert-file-contents > which will have already applied those auto-detected things. So right now I > believe that it should be safe in these environments. not true. the user may have manually selected a different coding system last time the file was read in. currently there's no way to retrieve this -- although i added a way to get at this to my mule ws, to make revert-buffer work properly in a mule setting. but there's a basic problem. the revert-buffer hooks can do anything, including making use of data external to the file, and that data might have changed. so it's not safe to do what you're doing. anyway, there's already some code in insert-file-contents to avoid the re-font-locking, if that's your primary concern. it *is* safe to do it there. it's probably turned off right now. again, i did some work to reenable it in my mule ws. fsfmacs goes farther and essentially does your exact trick of loading the file into a temporary buffer and comparing. i do a lesser approach because [a] i was concerned about memory usage with large files, [b] it didn't seem to be worth it just to avoid re-font-locking; just use lazy-lock instead. we already have deferred fontification for inserts. can you explain what exactly is the slowness you're trying to avoid? > > andy > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xemacs-patches-admin@xemacs.org > > [mailto:xemacs-patches-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull > > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 9:36 PM > > To: Andy Piper > > Cc: XEmacs Patches > > Subject: [VETO] Revert buffer patch > > > > > > VETO > > > > At the very least, do not default it on. And add documentation that > > the implications are unclear in environments like Mule and > > file-coding which apply auto-detected transformations to the buffer. > > > > >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: > > > > 2001-11-02 Andy Piper > > * files.el (revert-uses-md5-equality): New. > > * files.el (revert-buffer): optimize reversion of files that have > > only had their permissions and modtime changed. > > > > This patch is surely broken in a Mule environment and possibly with eg > > jka-compr. You need to be a lot more careful about how you match the > > state (coding systems, etc) of the tmp buffer to the user's buffer > > before you insert the file. > > > > The common failures are all "safe" (unnecessary reversions occur) but > > I can think of ways to make this fail harmfully by manipulating coding > > systems, and with the right file contents. I can't imagine a user > > doing those things, but it does suggest the possibility that there > > could be natural behavior that creates a buffer that needs reversion > > but doesn't get it. We shouldn't risk that. > > > > -- > > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences > > http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba > > 305-8573 JAPAN > > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > > ask what your business can "do for" free software. > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 12:28:45 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03159; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:28:17 -0500 Received: from wallflower.whistlingfish.net (c1002985-b.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.1.107.180]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03033 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:27:00 -0500 Received: from [216.231.43.215] (helo=flashingchance) by wallflower.whistlingfish.net with asmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1619zo-0002uj-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:26:44 -0800 Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:26:41 -0800 From: Matt Tucker To: "Henry S. Thompson" cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [comp.emacs.xemacs] Re: 21.4.5, re_match_2_internal and cygwin 1.3.2 Message-ID: <7690000.1005067601@flashingchance> In-Reply-To: <87ofmglehi.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wv14lfbt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87ofmglehi.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0 (Linux/x86) Mail-Copies-To: nobody MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="==========854830887==========" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==========854830887========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- "Henry S. Thompson" spake thusly: > I'm getting segfaults at re_match_2_internal (from font_lock, although > I don't think that's germain) with the cygwin version of xemacs, > installed prebuilt (using the new installer -- definitely a good > thing!). The archives suggest this is a stack overflow/malloc/alloca > issue. I'm using the recent cygwin, 1.3.2, and the most recent cygwin > prebuilt, namely 21.4.5 > > Sorry if this is a FAQ, but is this a cygwin problem or an xemacs > problem, and is there anything I can do to fix it? > I just rolled back to 21.4.3, and the problem does not _appear_ to > occur there -- of course, if it's memory allocation issue, small > differences can move problems around . . . Would it be possible to provide more specific information; e.g., a stack backtrace and a recipe for reproducing using 'xemacs -vanilla'? Thanks. --==========854830887========== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE76B1TU7AqV+YCBioRAuWhAKCHifKt2fgRhl+QfaBAxxMiA+ik0gCeMGLd qRnTYVMW/NSiPhFtfrrEvb0= =mpxZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==========854830887==========-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 12:39:15 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03919; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:39:03 -0500 Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03849; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:38:07 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1892F63E; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:38:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4F1290; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:38:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id JAA21342; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:38:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111061738.JAA21342@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Thomas Gerds Cc: Tony Lam , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: X error Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "06 Nov 2001 09:32:28 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:38:00 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Thomas Gerds wrote: > ok, thanks to all of you. i will beware of forcing frame re-paintings > in the future :) and shorten the auto-save interval ... You shouldn't have to shorten the auto-save interval. If XEmacs "locks up", you can usually recover the data by sending it a SIGHUP -- this should cause XEmacs to auto-save everything, and then exit. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 12:43:19 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04175; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:43:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03938 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:39:16 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161AAr-00057F-00; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 02:38:09 +0900 To: Ben Wing Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 References: <87d730rn8b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BE80B5C.8146EFA3@666.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 07 Nov 2001 02:38:08 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3BE80B5C.8146EFA3@666.com> Message-ID: <874ro7hkan.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing writes: Ben> i don't see extra specs. What I'm referring to is the fact that my understanding was that (1) we clear out all the specs that match the tagset, then (2) we prepend the new spec. That would imply that the :file spec from the fallback should not be picked up and used in preference to the :data spec which the user (via live-icon) has specified. But that seems to be what's happening. Maybe I'm just confused. Specifiers can be pretty confusing. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 12:46:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04689; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:46:12 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAB04014; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:40:36 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fA6HeS603392; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from TSUNAMI.bea.com (wsp001373wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.204]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11459; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:40:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:40:34 -0800 To: Ben Wing , Andy Piper From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , XEmacs Beta List In-Reply-To: <3BE80FFD.95296D8F@666.com> References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 09:29 AM 11/6/2001 -0700, Ben Wing wrote: >not true. the user may have manually selected a different coding system last >time the file was read in. currently there's no way to retrieve this -- >although i added a way to get at this to my mule ws, to make revert-buffer >work >properly in a mule setting. > >but there's a basic problem. the revert-buffer hooks can do anything, >including >making use of data external to the file, and that data might have changed. so >it's not safe to do what you're doing. > >anyway, there's already some code in insert-file-contents to avoid the >re-font-locking, if that's your primary concern. it *is* safe to do it >there. >it's probably turned off right now. again, i did some work to reenable it >in my >mule ws. fsfmacs goes farther and essentially does your exact trick of >loading >the file into a temporary buffer and comparing. i do a lesser approach >because >[a] i was concerned about memory usage with large files, [b] it didn't seem to >be worth it just to avoid re-font-locking; just use lazy-lock instead. we >already have deferred fontification for inserts. lazy-lock has always been a royal PITA for me. I would prefer a more general solution. >can you explain what exactly is the slowness you're trying to avoid? Its a combination of things. When you revert a Java file you not only get the buffer re-font-locked but semantic does its parse and that information is used for extra font-locking and the whole process is *really* slow. Now when the *only* thing that has happened is that the modtime and permissions have changed on the file it seems *really* stupid. There really should be some way of detecting this. I think the more basic problem is that revert-buffer is the wrong API to be using in many cases but it is the only one that allows you to switch off user-prompting. (for instance find-file-noselect might be a better thing to use if it had the correct API). andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 13:18:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06743; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:18:02 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06690; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:17:01 -0500 Received: from ios2.mfw.inova.com.br (inova2.comdominio.com.br [200.198.177.99]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA06654 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:16:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 634 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2001 18:15:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tequila.inova.com.br) (192.168.1.15) by ios with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 18:15:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 12123 invoked by uid 0); 6 Nov 2001 18:15:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20011106181534.12122.qmail@tequila.inova.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Velop 1.1 Subject: Problems with userlock and NFS To: crashes@xemacs.org From: "Daniel Ruoso" X-Velop-Qstat: 1 X-Velop-Sender: 1 Date: 6 Nov 2001 16:15:28 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id NAA06654 X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I'm having some trouble working with my perl files. My home is in NFS with filelock disabled, and the files are in CVS but readble/writable. When I open the the file and try to modify it, the modeline says "Loading Userlock...done"... and Xemacs locks itself... Can somebody help me? when I kill it, Xemacs output the following: -------- Fatal error (3). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. If you have access to the PROBLEMS file that came with your version of XEmacs, please check to see if your crash is described there, as there may be a workaround available. [...] directory in which you started the editor, or maybe in your home directory), and type gdb /usr/bin/xemacs core then type `where' when the debugger prompt comes up. (If you don't have GDB on your system, you might have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. A similar procedure should work for all of these. Ask your system administrator if you need more help.) Lisp backtrace follows: format("%s is locking %s: action (s, q, p, ?)? " -------- Follows the install information -------- uname -a: Linux eeyore 2.4.4-ac5 #1 Sat May 5 01:08:36 EDT 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-sound=native' '--with_menubars=lucid' '--with_scrollbars=lucid' '--with_dialogs=athena' '--cflags=-O2 -g -Wall' '--with-x11' '--extra-verbose' '--with-site-lisp' '--statedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/xemacs-21.4.1' '--prefix=/usr' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--const-is-losing=no' '--dynamic' '--without-postgresql' '--with-gpm=no' '--docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.1/i386-debian-linux/mule/' '--with-mule' '--with-canna=no' '--with-wnn=no' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-xfs' '--package-path=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/mule-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' 'i386-debian-linux' XEmacs 21.4.1 "Copyleft" configured for `i386-debian-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/dres/project/debian/xemacs21/xemacs-21.4.1 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -g -Wall Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. "palmatória quebra dedo, palmatória faz vergão, palmatória quebra tudo só não quebra opinião!" do concerto do Antônio Nóbrega From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 16:58:56 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA20302; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:58:12 -0500 Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA20271 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:57:37 -0500 Received: from mr6.exu.ericsson.se (mr6u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.123]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fA6LvbT28114 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:57:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from eamrcnt747.exu.ericsson.se (eamrcnt747.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.133.37]) by mr6.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fA6Lvb522113 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:57:37 -0600 (CST) Received: FROM netmanager7.rtp.ericsson.se BY eamrcnt747.exu.ericsson.se ; Tue Nov 06 15:57:34 2001 -0600 Received: from edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se (edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.122.19]) by netmanager7.rtp.ericsson.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA21700; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from toy@localhost) by edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id QAA21369; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:57:32 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se: toy set sender to toy@rtp.ericsson.se using -f To: Ben Wing Cc: Andy Piper , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , XEmacs Patches , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <3BE80FFD.95296D8F@666.com> From: Raymond Toy Date: 06 Nov 2001 16:57:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3BE80FFD.95296D8F@666.com> Message-ID: <4nzo5zh8ac.fsf@rtp.ericsson.se> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing writes: Ben> [a] i was concerned about memory usage with large files, [b] it didn't seem to Ben> be worth it just to avoid re-font-locking; just use lazy-lock instead. we Ben> already have deferred fontification for inserts. lazy-lock hasn't been working all that well for me ever since the syntax changes were done a few months ago. (The fontification is wrong especially if the region to be fontified is partly visible in the frame and partly not.) Ray From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 17:04:11 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20744; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:04:01 -0500 Received: from malkovich.starbak.net (malkovich.starbak.net [63.144.91.225]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20641 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:02:44 -0500 Received: (from ware@localhost) by malkovich.starbak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17195; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:02:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: malkovich.starbak.net: ware set sender to ware@starbak.com using -f To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> From: Pete Ware Date: 06 Nov 2001 17:02:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> Message-ID: <77y9lj8sn8.fsf@malkovich.starbak.net> Lines: 5 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Calcuate an md5 sum when reading a file; on revert get the new md5 sum and if the same then assume buffers would end up identical. Or is it just that `revert-buffer' is supposed to mean start all over? --pete From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 17:23:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA22664; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:23:02 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA22648 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:22:49 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fA6MMe618048; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:22:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from TSUNAMI.bea.com (wsp001268wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.99]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03400; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:22:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011106142226.00b4cff8@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 14:22:35 -0800 To: Pete Ware , XEmacs Beta List From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch In-Reply-To: <77y9lj8sn8.fsf@malkovich.starbak.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 05:02 PM 11/6/2001 -0500, Pete Ware wrote: >Calcuate an md5 sum when reading a file; on revert get the new md5 sum >and if the same then assume buffers would end up identical. Or is it just >that `revert-buffer' is supposed to mean start all over? That's kind of what I did. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 17:38:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23817; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:38:03 -0500 Received: from chmls16.mediaone.net (chmls16.mediaone.net [24.147.1.151]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23729; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:36:51 -0500 Received: from PKRAUSE (gw.soundbite.com [64.55.62.227]) by chmls16.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fA6MaaT24493; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:36:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003c01c16713$7e7a0510$0c0a050a@soundbite.com> Reply-To: "Paul Krause" From: "Paul Krause" To: "Ben Wing" , "Andy Piper" , "Andy Piper" Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:36:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > >can you explain what exactly is the slowness you're trying to avoid? > > Its a combination of things. When you revert a Java file you not only get > the buffer re-font-locked but semantic does its parse and that information > is used for extra font-locking and the whole process is *really* slow. That's for sure. It especially bites me when I compile and skip to the next-error, which is usually line 2394 in a 3500 line file. The file gets fontified and parsed, but to edit it, but have to check out from perforce. Then not only does the fortification and parsing start all over, but the buffer-position gets trashed (probably an unrelated bug in perforce.el, but I never figured it out), and I'm back on line 1 again. Kinda sucks. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 17:41:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA24003; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:41:02 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23952; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:40:14 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fA6Me7619027; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from TSUNAMI.bea.com (wsp001268wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.99]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11418; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:40:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011106143931.00b5c690@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 14:40:02 -0800 To: "Paul Krause" , "Ben Wing" , "Andy Piper" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" In-Reply-To: <003c01c16713$7e7a0510$0c0a050a@soundbite.com> References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 05:36 PM 11/6/2001 -0500, Paul Krause wrote: >That's for sure. It especially bites me when I compile and skip to the >next-error, which is usually line 2394 in a 3500 line file. The file gets >fontified and parsed, but to edit it, but have to check out from perforce. >Then not only does the fortification and parsing start all over, but the >buffer-position gets trashed (probably an unrelated bug in perforce.el, but >I never figured it out), and I'm back on line 1 again. Kinda sucks. Yeah, I get this. I think its actually a bug in XEmacs related to revert-buffer. Doing the md5 thing avoids both problems. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 19:58:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA00402; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:58:05 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA00379 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:57:31 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161H1A-0005Vi-00; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 09:56:36 +0900 To: "Daniel Ruoso" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Problems with userlock and NFS References: <20011106181534.12122.qmail@tequila.inova.com.br> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 07 Nov 2001 09:56:35 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011106181534.12122.qmail@tequila.inova.com.br> Message-ID: <87zo5zflfg.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 63 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Ruoso writes: Daniel> When I open the the file and try to modify it, the Daniel> modeline says "Loading Userlock...done"... and Xemacs Daniel> locks itself... Arggh. XEmacs is probably fine, but ... Daniel> Can somebody help me? You can deal with it yourself, I suspect. Daniel> Lisp backtrace follows: Daniel> format("%s is locking %s: action (s, q, p, ?)? " For some reason in some cases XEmacs fails to output the message above. What is happening is that you have another X?Emacs process with the file locked, and you are being asked whether to (s)teal the lock (and the other process will be locked out), (q)uit (and not edit the file in this process), or (p)roceed (and you will have to resolve the conflict later). (?) gives help. So you should be able to just type `s' or `p' and then edit the file. You should also be able to execute any XEmacs command that doesn't involve the minibuffer at that point (the minibuffer is currently in use by the message command that invoked the format function you see above). Alternatively type C-g (perhaps two or three times) to quit and edit something else. If that doesn't work, you can put the following in your init file (defun ask-user-about-lock (filename other-user) t) and you will always grab the lock. To get prompting behavior back in the same session, edit this message, and execute the form below (by putting point after the last paren before "; HERE!" and typing C-x C-e). (defun ask-user-about-lock (filename other-user) "Ask user wanting to edit FILENAME, locked by OTHER-USER, what to do. This function has a choice of three things to do: do (signal 'file-locked (list FILENAME OTHER-USER)) to refrain from editing the file return t (grab the lock on the file) return nil (edit the file even though it is locked). You can rewrite it to use any criteria you like to choose which one to do." (discard-input) (if (should-use-dialog-box-p) (ask-user-about-lock-dbox filename other-user) (ask-user-about-lock-minibuf filename other-user))) ; HERE! This is an XEmacs bug (that message should display) and we'll try to track it down, but you may be able to workaround in the meantime with one of the above strategies. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 6 20:07:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00990; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 20:07:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00949; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 20:06:25 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161H9N-0005Wo-00; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 10:05:05 +0900 To: Andy Piper Cc: "Paul Krause" , "Ben Wing" , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011106143931.00b5c690@san-francisco.beasys.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 07 Nov 2001 10:05:04 +0900 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011106143931.00b5c690@san-francisco.beasys.com> Message-ID: <87vggnfl1b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> At 05:36 PM 11/6/2001 -0500, Paul Krause wrote: >> That's for sure. It especially bites me when I compile and >> skip to the next-error, which is usually line 2394 in a 3500 >> line file. The file gets fontified and parsed, but to edit it, >> but have to check out from perforce. Then not only does the >> fortification and parsing start all over, but the >> buffer-position gets trashed (probably an unrelated bug in >> perforce.el, but I never figured it out), and I'm back on line >> 1 again. Kinda sucks. I'll see your "kinda" and raise it to "really." I see this is a problem but ... Andy> Yeah, I get this. I think its actually a bug in XEmacs Andy> related to revert-buffer. Doing the md5 thing avoids both Andy> problems. ... let's not "avoid" problems where we can _prove_ the avoidance can cause data corruption. Let's fix the problems. And for heaven's sake, _don't_ make dangerous "avoidance" behavior the default! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 7 00:07:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA14852; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 00:06:16 -0500 Received: from lists.samba.org (samba.sourceforge.net [198.186.203.85]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA14782 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 00:05:15 -0500 Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1075) id 2E5FE42FC; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:04:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:23:44 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Martin Schwenke" Reply-To: "Martin Schwenke" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: gnuserv.el:gnuserv-running-p buglet X-Mailer: VM 6.97 under Emacs 21.1.1 Message-Id: <20011107050431.2E5FE42FC@lists.samba.org> Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , gnuserv-running-p doesn't really implement what its documentation says it does. If the process was started, but has since died, it probably still returns non-nil. (defun gnuserv-running-p () "Return non-nil if a gnuserv process is running from this XEmacs session." (and (not (not gnuserv-process)) (eq (process-status gnuserv-process) 'run))) By the way, is the (not (not gnuserv-process)) really necessary in the existing version. I guess this makes the function return t instead of a process-handle, but the documentation only says it returns non-nil... [By the way, sorry I'm not on the list, so please copy me on replies...] peace & happiness, martin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 7 11:05:45 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14044; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:05:17 -0500 Received: from zabor.mo.msk.ru (ns3.protection.ru [195.170.194.222] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13977; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:04:16 -0500 Received: from d-fens.vdata.ru (d-fens.vdata.ru [192.168.168.62]) by zabor.mo.msk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA22026; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:03:53 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from gin@mo.msk.ru) Received: (gin@localhost) by d-fens.vdata.ru (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id QAA25967; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:03:55 GMT Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:03:55 (GMT) Message-ID: <5a243be95b6b32-gin@mo.msk.ru> From: "Golubev I. N." To: Simon Josefsson CC: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-reply-to: Subject: Re: tm & gnus Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Your message is really helpful wrt to basic keybindings and how to start. But I think that such a startup should be (easily) available to everybody through conventional emacs techniques. One should not have to post questions or read faq. > Composing mail is described in the Message manual. All that end user `sees' is gnus. So gnus documentation should be a point to start and figure out everything one needs. When it describes `gnus-group-mail' and friends, it should refer to `message' manual. Currently `gnus.info' does not mention `gnus-msg-mail' at all, and functions' documentation does not state explicitly where to read about mail composition. > > What if I am on tty? > > Gnus doesn't notice the difference, I am sure that gnus doesn't, but user does. With menubar it is easier to understand what MML does. MML minor mode description (which is the only thing universally available on any device) is quite terse and does not state explicitly that it is stuff for composing MIME messages described in this-and-this `.info'. > Etc, > you do not normally need to indicate to Gnus anything about the charsets, > but for details see the Emacs MIME manual. Hope that it describes what to do without MULE or when same text may be sent in different charsets, and required charset may change. > > It appears that current version of gnus lacks documentation badly. I think that the statement still holds. There are apparently not enough cross-references, and learning it is not as easy as it could be. Even now I observe some surprises in message mode. It appears to use `sendmail' stuff, and does that in a strange way. One has to change default `sendmail-program' value, not buffer-local one, to have it affect sending in `message' mode. So one cannot (easily) reuse his `sendmail-program' stuff. And there is no way back, that is, you cannot stick to `tm' either, since it is also considerably hosed. So mail editing in xemacs becomes quite uncomfortable. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 7 11:30:27 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16183; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:30:09 -0500 Received: from zabor.mo.msk.ru (ns3.protection.ru [195.170.194.222] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16021 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:28:22 -0500 Received: from d-fens.vdata.ru (d-fens.vdata.ru [192.168.168.62]) by zabor.mo.msk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA22244 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:28:20 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from gin@mo.msk.ru) Received: (gin@localhost) by d-fens.vdata.ru (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id QAA27401; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:28:22 GMT Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:28:22 (GMT) Message-ID: <5a243be9612686-gin@mo.msk.ru> From: "Golubev I. N." To: Subject: widget keymap parents Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , `custom' versions: all known That is, in 19.14 `custom' was a separate package, and later it is bundled with xemacs. It is `wid-edit.el'. It provides a "text field widget" implemented as extent with a keymap bound to it. 1) Are `set-keymap-parents' for `widget-field-keymap' and friends really necessary? Note that they set bindings for *extent* keymap, which is searched first when dispatching key-presses. So in "text field widgets" `global-map' key bindings shadow those of minor modes. In particular, vi movement mode in viper is implemented through minor mode, so one can not enjoy vi commands in "text fields". 2) If you decide to retain it. This code fragment looks strange. (setq widget-text-keymap (make-sparse-keymap)) (set-keymap-parents widget-field-keymap global-map) Apparently it initializes `widget-text-keymap', but looks like smb forgot to replace `widget-field-keymap' from an expr above with `widget-text-keymap'. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 7 12:06:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18726; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:06:10 -0500 Received: from slipsten.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18619 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:05:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by slipsten.extundo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA7H4tg03198; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 18:04:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: slipsten.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 18:04:55 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Josefsson To: "Golubev I. N." cc: Subject: Re: tm & gnus In-Reply-To: <5a243be95b6b32-gin@mo.msk.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Golubev I. N. wrote: > Your message is really helpful wrt to basic keybindings and how to > start. But I think that such a startup should be (easily) available > to everybody through conventional emacs techniques. One should not > have to post questions or read faq. The key binding is mentioned if you do C-h m, it is also available in the menubar. In Oort Gnus the somewhat confusing menubar name "MML" was changed into "Attachment" to make things easier to locate for users that doesn't know what MML is. Please suggest other specific things that can be improved as well, and I'm sure they will be added. > > Composing mail is described in the Message manual. > > All that end user `sees' is gnus. So gnus documentation should be a > point to start and figure out everything one needs. Right, but this seems to be covered -- in the top-level node "Composing Messages" in the first paragraph, there is a reference to the message manual. > When it describes `gnus-group-mail' and friends, it should refer to > `message' manual. Referring to the "Composing Messages" node is perhaps better, I'll add this. > Currently `gnus.info' does not mention `gnus-msg-mail' at all, and > functions' documentation does not state explicitly where to read about > mail composition. gnus-msg-mail is a XEmacs thing, it should be documented in the XEmacs manual. Gnus does not use the function as far as I know. > > > What if I am on tty? > > > > Gnus doesn't notice the difference, > > I am sure that gnus doesn't, but user does. With menubar it is easier > to understand what MML does. MML minor mode description (which is the > only thing universally available on any device) is quite terse and > does not state explicitly that it is stuff for composing MIME messages > described in this-and-this `.info'. Right, I'll submit a patch that adds a few sentences to the MML minor mode with more information. > > Etc, > > you do not normally need to indicate to Gnus anything about the charsets, > > but for details see the Emacs MIME manual. > > Hope that it describes what to do without MULE or when same text may > be sent in different charsets, and required charset may change. Yes, see the "Charset Translation" node. (Located via `s mule RET'.) > > > It appears that current version of gnus lacks documentation badly. > > I think that the statement still holds. There are apparently not > enough cross-references, and learning it is not as easy as it could > be. Agreed, please submit more places where you think cross references are appropriate. Diff format prefered, but suggestions are useful as well. > Even now I observe some surprises in message mode. It appears to use > `sendmail' stuff, and does that in a strange way. One has to change > default `sendmail-program' value, not buffer-local one, to have it > affect sending in `message' mode. So one cannot (easily) reuse his > `sendmail-program' stuff. This is a bug that was fixed a while ago, but I don't think there has been a new mail-lib release that includes it yet. (A new mail-lib release would be a good thing, the mail-lib in CVS solves alot of problems and add several new features.) > And there is no way back, that is, you cannot stick to `tm' either, > since it is also considerably hosed. So mail editing in xemacs > becomes quite uncomfortable. With yours and others help it will become more comfortable. Without the help, it will stay uncomfortable. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 7 12:19:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19578; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:19:02 -0500 Received: from zabor.mo.msk.ru (ns3.protection.ru [195.170.194.222] (may be forged)) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19560 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:18:46 -0500 Received: from d-fens.vdata.ru (d-fens.vdata.ru [192.168.168.62]) by zabor.mo.msk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA22638 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:18:42 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from gin@mo.msk.ru) Received: (gin@localhost) by d-fens.vdata.ru (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id RAA00346; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:18:45 GMT Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 17:18:45 (GMT) Message-ID: <5a243be96cf489-gin@mo.msk.ru> From: "Golubev I. N." To: Subject: key-binding Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , versions: 19.14 .. `key-binding' misinforms user when used by `describe-key' invoked inside "text fields" on a key from extent map. It returns C-z binding from `viper-vi-intercept-minor-mode' (viper mode is on), and in fact active C-z binding is from extent map. This incorrect binding is displayed to user. `describe-bindings' works fine. I observe that `keymap.c' code for `key-binding' really differs from what `describe-bindings' does. And before going into detail of what `get_relevant_keymaps' returns: it can go beyond `maps' array bounds when `(nmaps > countof (maps))'. In my case it does not happen since last item in array filled by `get_relevant_keymaps' is always `Vcurrent_global_map', and key binding from global map is returned, but it can go wrong when there is no key binding in returned *subset* of relevant keymaps. If it does not go beyond `maps' array bounds, it can return wrong value because it never requests all of `nmaps' keymaps and `(nmaps - countof (maps))' are left unprocessed. I ran over it all while trying to figure out what goes no in `wid-edit' "text fields" as described in <5a243be9612686-gin@mo.msk.ru>. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 7 12:41:39 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21133; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:41:03 -0500 Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21110 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:40:35 -0500 Received: from mr6.exu.ericsson.se (mr6att.ericy.com [138.85.92.14]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fA7HeYP08252 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:40:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from eamrcnt747.exu.ericsson.se (eamrcnt747.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.133.37]) by mr6.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fA7HeYK08629 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:40:34 -0600 (CST) Received: FROM netmanager7.rtp.ericsson.se BY eamrcnt747.exu.ericsson.se ; Wed Nov 07 11:40:33 2001 -0600 Received: from edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se (edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.122.19]) by netmanager7.rtp.ericsson.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA07525; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from toy@localhost) by edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id MAA25101; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:40:31 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se: toy set sender to toy@rtp.ericsson.se using -f To: "Paul Krause" Cc: "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> <003c01c16713$7e7a0510$0c0a050a@soundbite.com> From: Raymond Toy Date: 07 Nov 2001 12:40:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <003c01c16713$7e7a0510$0c0a050a@soundbite.com> Message-ID: <4nsnbqfpio.fsf@rtp.ericsson.se> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Krause writes: Paul> That's for sure. It especially bites me when I compile and skip to the Paul> next-error, which is usually line 2394 in a 3500 line file. The file gets Paul> fontified and parsed, but to edit it, but have to check out from perforce. Paul> Then not only does the fortification and parsing start all over, but the Paul> buffer-position gets trashed (probably an unrelated bug in perforce.el, but Paul> I never figured it out), and I'm back on line 1 again. Kinda sucks. I get the same problem with clearcase.el. Fortunately, my files aren't thousands of lines long. :-) This is quite annoying, but not so annoying that I've spent any real time trying to find out why. Ray From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 7 14:04:39 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25448; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:04:10 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25406 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:03:25 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B93B2E80 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:03:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CB15D3 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 12:03:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id LAA19447 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:03:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111071903.LAA19447@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: package meta-faq/overview? Reply-To: Darryl Okahata Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 11:03:18 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, Would it be useful to have a package meta-faq/overview, that gave a short description of the more useful/cool packages? I'm thinking that novices or people new to XEmacs would find it useful, especially for customization. It would also help to emphasize one of the strengths of XEmacs (over plain GNU Emacs): the easy, one-stop-shopping for packages. A lot of it would cover the same ground as the sample init.el, but it might be nice to periodically post a pointer to such a document in comp.emacs.xemacs. And, yes, I'll volunteer to write the initial version of the document if people think that it'll be useful. [ I don't know if I'll have the time to maintain it in the long term, but I can write the initial version. ] -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 7 15:56:34 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01390; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:56:03 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01322; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:54:54 -0500 Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 161Zim-0003WZ-0D; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 21:54:52 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.14.133]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 161Zid-1WqUsqC; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:54:43 +0100 To: Darryl Okahata , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: package meta-faq/overview? References: <200111071903.LAA19447@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: <1yjab8t1.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> Lines: 67 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> Hi, Darryl> Would it be useful to have a package Darryl> meta-faq/overview, that gave a Darryl> short description of the more useful/cool packages? I'm Hi Darryl, I think it would. Why not put that document in a prominent place under http://www.xemacs.org/ instead||as well? A text version of that document (perhaps just via "Save As...->Save as type->Text File") could perhaps be posted regularly on type->comp.emacs.xemacs as well. Are you aware of http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Develop/packages.html , http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Download/elispPackages.html , http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html ? elispPackages.html may need an overhaul, since many of these packages are available as XEmacs packages today. Perhaps we should harmonize the existing resources and complement them with your suggested package meta-faq/overview. Darryl> thinking that novices or people new to XEmacs would find Darryl> it useful, especially for customization. It would also Darryl> help to emphasize one of the strengths of XEmacs (over Darryl> plain GNU Emacs): the easy, one-stop-shopping for Darryl> packages. A lot of it would cover the same ground as the Darryl> sample init.el, but it might be nice to periodically post Darryl> a pointer to such a document in comp.emacs.xemacs. Darryl> And, yes, I'll volunteer to write the initial version Darryl> of the Darryl> document if people think that it'll be useful. Darryl> [ I don't know if I'll have the time to maintain it in the Darryl> long term, Darryl> but I can write the initial version. ] Sounds good to me. Best regards, Adrian Darryl> -- Darryl> Darryl Okahata Darryl> darrylo@soco.agilent.com Darryl> DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion Darryl> and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Darryl> Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have Darryl> been following him all day. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 03:49:51 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA04861; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 03:49:13 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA04817 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 03:47:54 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161kpi-0006Zv-00; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 17:46:46 +0900 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: "Golubev I. N." , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 08 Nov 2001 17:46:46 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87itclejk9.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: >> Currently `gnus.info' does not mention `gnus-msg-mail' at all, >> and functions' documentation does not state explicitly where to >> read about mail composition. Simon> gnus-msg-mail is a XEmacs thing, it should be documented in Simon> the XEmacs manual. Gnus does not use the function as far Simon> as I know. This is becoming a FAQ. Anyway, are you sure? It comes from gnus-msg, which is part of the Gnus distribution and authored by larsi and Umeda-san. The docstring says Start editing a mail message to be sent. Like `message-mail', but with Gnus paraphernalia, particularly the Gcc: header for archiving purposes. Simon> (A new mail-lib release would be a good thing, the mail-lib Simon> in CVS solves alot of problems and add several new Simon> features.) Sigh. I'll get on this. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 03:54:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA05076; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 03:54:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA05042 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 03:53:13 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161kv7-0006a9-00; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 17:52:21 +0900 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: package meta-faq/overview? References: <200111071903.LAA19447@mina.soco.agilent.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 08 Nov 2001 17:52:21 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200111071903.LAA19447@mina.soco.agilent.com> Message-ID: <87eln9ejay.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> Would it be useful to have a package Darryl> meta-faq/overview, that gave a short description of the Darryl> more useful/cool packages? Yes, it would. etc/PACKAGES and the XEmacs | Packages node are quite incomplete. What would be really cool is to have the blurb as a required (OK, strongly recommended) part of package-info.in and build that part of the FAQ automatically. That's well beyond what you've volunteered for, but I thot I'd mention it. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 04:21:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA07272; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 04:21:03 -0500 Received: from slipsten.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA07225; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 04:20:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by slipsten.extundo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA89JuR03774; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:19:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: slipsten.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:19:55 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Josefsson To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" cc: Subject: Re: tm & gnus In-Reply-To: <87itclejk9.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 8 Nov 2001, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: > > >> Currently `gnus.info' does not mention `gnus-msg-mail' at all, > >> and functions' documentation does not state explicitly where to > >> read about mail composition. > > Simon> gnus-msg-mail is a XEmacs thing, it should be documented in > Simon> the XEmacs manual. Gnus does not use the function as far > Simon> as I know. > > This is becoming a FAQ. Anyway, are you sure? It comes from > gnus-msg, which is part of the Gnus distribution and authored by larsi > and Umeda-san. The docstring says > > Start editing a mail message to be sent. > Like `message-mail', but with Gnus paraphernalia, particularly the > Gcc: header for archiving purposes. Yes, but I believe the function and the package is there for the `mail-user-agent' stuff in (X)Emacs. So it is the interface glue that VM, RMAIL etc also have, and the function should probably be documented where `mail-user-agent' is described. (And hopefully it already is, but I didn't check.) > Simon> (A new mail-lib release would be a good thing, the mail-lib > Simon> in CVS solves alot of problems and add several new > Simon> features.) > > Sigh. I'll get on this. I'm having trouble committing things currently, and I'd like to commit a one-liner I sent to xemacs-patches several weeks ago first -- I sent a mail to the cvs maintainer so hopefully it will be fixed soon. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 06:17:27 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA11476; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:17:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA11458 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:16:38 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161n9s-0006hN-00; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 20:15:44 +0900 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: , jareth@xemacs.og Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 08 Nov 2001 20:15:43 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87zo5xcy3k.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> I'm having trouble committing things currently, and I'd Simon> like to commit a one-liner I sent to xemacs-patches several Simon> weeks ago first -- I sent a mail to the cvs maintainer so Simon> hopefully it will be fixed soon. Er, I'm the XEmacs CVS maintainer now.... OK, I've fixed that alias. (gomen'nasai, Jareth-san. taihen gomeiwaku wo kaketeshimaimasita (^^;;;) What's the problem? Are you aware that cvs.xemacs.org is no more? We're planning to move to SunSITE.dk as soon as we can get some security issues straightened out. In the meantime, CVS changes are done using your "jas@barbar.josefsson.org" SSH public key, using CVS_RSH=/usr/bin/ssh CVSROOT=:ext:xemacs@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp:/usr/CVSroot or whatever is appropriate at your system. Checkouts and updates can be done anonymously CVSROOT=:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs The cvs login password is "cvs". The canonical reference for this stuff is http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html, but it doesn't describe the temporary server at "tanko". Note that due to my university's brain-damaged firewall, the only way you can check service is via ssh -v, which will hang after announcing the connection (you don't have shell access; it automatically starts the CVS server, which is waiting for CVS :ext: client-server protocol). No ping, traceroute, etc, etc, due to firewall. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 07:12:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA13526; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:12:07 -0500 Received: from slipsten.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA13474; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:11:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by slipsten.extundo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA8CB4Z04003; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:11:04 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: slipsten.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:11:04 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Josefsson To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" cc: , Subject: Re: tm & gnus In-Reply-To: <87zo5xcy3k.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 8 Nov 2001, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > What's the problem? Are you aware that cvs.xemacs.org is no more? > We're planning to move to SunSITE.dk as soon as we can get some > security issues straightened out. In the meantime, CVS changes are > done using your "jas@barbar.josefsson.org" SSH public key, using > > CVS_RSH=/usr/bin/ssh > CVSROOT=:ext:xemacs@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp:/usr/CVSroot Ah, the cvsaccess.html page says to use "martinb@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp". Ok, now ssh -v works, but commit doesn't: $ xemacs-cvs-rw.sh commit ChangeLog smtpmail.el cvs server: failed to create lock directory for `/usr/CVSroot/xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib' (/usr/CVSroot/xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib/#cvs.lock): No such file or directory cvs server: lock failed - giving up cvs [server aborted]: lock failed - giving up cvs commit: saving log message in /tmp/cvsKSWWkp $ cat ~/bin/xemacs-cvs-rw.sh #!/bin/sh exec env CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -w -z3 -d :ext:xemacs@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp:/usr/CVSroot ${1+"$@"} $ > The cvs login password is "cvs". The canonical reference for this > stuff is http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html, but it doesn't > describe the temporary server at "tanko". Tanko is mentioned in several places, but not all (search for cvs.xemacs.org), same for "martinb" vs "xemacs". Thanks.. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 08:28:51 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA16877; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:28:14 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA16842; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:27:47 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08668; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA01142; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA26975; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:22:58 +0100 (MET) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Simon Josefsson , , jareth@xemacs.og Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87zo5xcy3k.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 08 Nov 2001 14:28:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87zo5xcy3k.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 62 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> I'm having trouble committing things currently, and I'd Simon> like to commit a one-liner I sent to xemacs-patches several Simon> weeks ago first -- I sent a mail to the cvs maintainer so Simon> hopefully it will be fixed soon. Stephen> Er, I'm the XEmacs CVS maintainer now.... OK, I've fixed Stephen> that alias. (gomen'nasai, Jareth-san. taihen gomeiwaku Stephen> wo kaketeshimaimasita (^^;;;) Stephen> What's the problem? Are you aware that cvs.xemacs.org is Stephen> no more? We're planning to move to SunSITE.dk as soon as Stephen> we can get some security issues straightened out. In the Stephen> meantime, CVS changes are done using your Stephen> "jas@barbar.josefsson.org" SSH public key, using Stephen> CVS_RSH=/usr/bin/ssh Stephen> CVSROOT=:ext:xemacs@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp:/usr/CVSroot Stephen> or whatever is appropriate at your system. Checkouts and Stephen> updates can be done anonymously Stephen> CVSROOT=:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs Stephen> The cvs login password is "cvs". The canonical reference Stephen> for this stuff is Stephen> http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html, but it Stephen> doesn't describe the temporary server at "tanko". Note Stephen, I used to commit via :ext:martinb@cvs.xemacs.org:/usr/CVSroot in cvs.xemacs.org times. Oh, shared commit access has been moved from acount martinb to xemacs. Somehow my mind failed to register this (registry full, perhaps?). I'll do a quick update now. Best regards, Adrian Stephen> that due to my university's brain-damaged firewall, the Stephen> only way you can check service is via ssh -v, which will Stephen> hang after announcing the connection (you don't have Stephen> shell access; it automatically starts the CVS server, Stephen> which is waiting for CVS :ext: client-server protocol). Stephen> No ping, traceroute, etc, etc, due to firewall. Stephen> -- Stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp Stephen> University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Stephen> Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; Stephen> ask what your business can "do for" free software. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 08:56:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18409; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:56:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18392; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:55:51 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161pdz-0006nD-00; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:54:59 +0900 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 08 Nov 2001 22:54:59 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> Ah, the cvsaccess.html page says to use Simon> "martinb@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp". Thanks for the report. Fixed in workspace now. Simon> Ok, now ssh -v works, but commit doesn't: Simon> cvs server: failed to create lock directory for Simon> `/usr/CVSroot/xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib' Your Repository file doesn't jibe with the structure of the repository now, I guess. I suspect that the contents of your mail-lib/CVS/Root file is the single line :ext:martinb@cvs.xemacs.org:/usr/CVSroot (which doesn't matter because CVSROOT overrides, but doesn't change it; you can change to the CVSROOT I gave by hand with no problem, though and then you won't have to set CVSROOT), and your mail-lib/CVS/Repository file is the single line xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib Change that to XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib. It's also possible that you're not committing from the working directory itself. If not, cd'ing there might help. If this kind of manipulation fails, you'll have to check out again. If so, I'm sorry for the inconvenience. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 09:25:22 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA20526; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:25:04 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA20397; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:23:11 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20831; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA13528; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA27094; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:18:21 +0100 (MET) To: Mail Administrator Cc: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org, XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: Mail System Error - Returned Mail References: <20011108134347.AAA4568@roadrunner.neo.lrun.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 08 Nov 2001 15:23:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20011108134347.AAA4568@roadrunner.neo.lrun.com> Message-ID: Lines: 114 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Mail" == Mail Administrator writes: I have unsubscribed this address from these: List Subscriptions for jstuart-devel@neo.rr.com on xemacs.org Click a link to visit your options page for that mailing list: xemacs-announce xemacs-beta xemacs-news xemacs-patches xemacs-winnt Adrian Mail> This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Mail> The recipient(s) indicated below did not receive this message Mail> because their mailbox size limit would have been exceeded. 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Turnbull" Mail> Cc: Simon Josefsson , , Mail> jareth@xemacs.og Mail> Date: 08 Nov 2001 14:28:05 +0100 Mail> References: Mail> <87zo5xcy3k.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mail> Organization: The XEmacs Project Mail> Message-ID: >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> I'm having trouble committing things currently, and I'd Simon> like to commit a one-liner I sent to xemacs-patches several Simon> weeks ago first -- I sent a mail to the cvs maintainer so Simon> hopefully it will be fixed soon. Stephen> Er, I'm the XEmacs CVS maintainer now.... OK, I've fixed Stephen> that alias. (gomen'nasai, Jareth-san. taihen gomeiwaku Stephen> wo kaketeshimaimasita (^^;;;) Stephen> What's the problem? Are you aware that cvs.xemacs.org is Stephen> no more? We're planning to move to SunSITE.dk as soon as Stephen> we can get some security issues straightened out. In the Stephen> meantime, CVS changes are done using your Stephen> "jas@barbar.josefsson.org" SSH public key, using Stephen> CVS_RSH=/usr/bin/ssh Stephen> CVSROOT=:ext:xemacs@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp:/usr/CVSroot Stephen> or whatever is appropriate at your system. Checkouts and Stephen> updates can be done anonymously Stephen> CVSROOT=:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs Stephen> The cvs login password is "cvs". The canonical reference Stephen> for this stuff is Stephen> http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html, but it Stephen> doesn't describe the temporary server at "tanko". Note Mail> Stephen, I used to commit via Mail> :ext:martinb@cvs.xemacs.org:/usr/CVSroot Mail> in cvs.xemacs.org times. Mail> Oh, shared commit access has been moved from acount martinb to xemacs. Mail> Somehow my mind failed to register this (registry full, perhaps?). Mail> I'll do a quick update now. Mail> Best regards, Mail> Adrian Stephen> that due to my university's brain-damaged firewall, the Stephen> only way you can check service is via ssh -v, which will Stephen> hang after announcing the connection (you don't have Stephen> shell access; it automatically starts the CVS server, Stephen> which is waiting for CVS :ext: client-server protocol). Stephen> No ping, traceroute, etc, etc, due to firewall. Stephen> -- Stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp Stephen> University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Stephen> Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; Stephen> ask what your business can "do for" free software. Mail> -- Mail> Adrian Aichner Mail> mailto:adrian@xemacs.org Mail> http://www.xemacs.org/ Mail> ---------- -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 09:33:20 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21028; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:33:11 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA20994; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:32:20 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161qDJ-0006r5-00; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 23:31:29 +0900 To: Adrian Aichner Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Simon Josefsson , , jareth@xemacs.og Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87zo5xcy3k.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 08 Nov 2001 23:31:29 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87bsidcp1a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: APA> I'll do a quick update now. Already done and committed. ;-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 10:27:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24353; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:27:03 -0500 Received: from serv01.aet.tu-cottbus.de (serv01.aet.TU-Cottbus.De [141.43.132.161]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24341 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:26:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serv01.aet.tu-cottbus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B0036E2 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:26:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from aet.TU-Cottbus.DE (ws01.aet.TU-Cottbus.De [141.43.132.151]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Lutz Jaenicke", Issuer "BTU-CA" (verified OK)) by serv01.aet.tu-cottbus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0168336E1 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:26:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3BEAA438.6990252F@aet.TU-Cottbus.DE> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:26:48 +0100 From: Lutz Jaenicke Organization: BTU Cottbus, Allgemeine Elektrotechnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/780) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: LDFLAGS problem with 21.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010915 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi! When installing xemacs-21.4.5 on my HP-UX box I found, that LDFLAGS is not honored in Makefile.in.in. I can successfully run LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib ./configure --options and my additional libraries are found, but the compilation phase fails, because LDFLAGS is not supported in Makefile.in.in. Solution: Add LDFLAGS=@LDFLAGS@ to Makefile.in.in Best regards, Lutz -- Lutz Jaenicke Lutz.Jaenicke@aet.TU-Cottbus.DE BTU Cottbus http://www.aet.TU-Cottbus.DE/personen/jaenicke/ Lehrstuhl Allgemeine Elektrotechnik Tel. +49 355 69-4129 Universitaetsplatz 3-4, D-03044 Cottbus Fax. +49 355 69-4153 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 12:30:20 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00307; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 12:30:11 -0500 Received: from dolk.extundo.com (dolk.extundo.com [195.42.214.242]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA32706; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 12:29:20 -0500 Received: from dhcp128.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fA8HTQdi001544; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:29:26 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "08 Nov 2001 22:54:59 +0900") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 18:28:57 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > mail-lib/CVS/Repository file is the single line > > xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib > > Change that to XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib. This was the problem, thanks. But changing this makes anonymous CVS stop working. The anonymous CVS server doesn't seem to be tightly synced with tanko either, so I guess I'll only use tanko for now. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 13:59:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05956; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:58:14 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05890; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:57:01 -0500 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 161uMF-0004lz-0K; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 19:56:59 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.14.124]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 161uMD-27zTU0C; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 19:56:57 +0100 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >> mail-lib/CVS/Repository file is the single line >> >> xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib >> >> Change that to XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib. Simon> This was the problem, thanks. But changing this makes Simon> anonymous CVS stop working. The anonymous CVS server Simon> doesn't seem to be tightly synced with tanko either, so I Hi Simon, please report specific problems you are seeing. We need this to find the cause. SunSITE.dk is synced daily. It might be though, that packages don't get synced correctly. They don't appear in the rsync log. I'll have a look. Best regards, Adrian Simon> guess I'll only use tanko for now. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 14:23:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07612; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:23:04 -0500 Received: from dolk.extundo.com (dolk.extundo.com [195.42.214.242]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07505; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:22:18 -0500 Received: from dhcp128.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fA8JMMdi002232; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:22:22 +0100 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: (Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de's message of "08 Nov 2001 19:57:20 +0100") Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 20:21:52 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: > Hi Simon, please report specific problems you are seeing. cvs.sunsite.dk and tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp doesn't have the same "Repository" path. The following illustrates the problem, it is not enough to change the cvs root with -d, you need to edit CVS/Repository as well, as Stephen described. anon cvs ok, but ssh not ok: [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cat CVS/Root :pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cat CVS/Repository xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cvs upd ? ChangeLog.jas ? status ? todo cvs server: Updating . M mail-extr.el M rmailout.el [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cvs -w -z3 -d :ext:xemacs@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp:/usr/CVSroot upd ? ChangeLog.jas ? status ? todo cvs server: Updating . cvs server: cannot open directory /usr/CVSroot/xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib: No such file or directory cvs server: skipping directory [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ ssh cvs ok, but anon cvs not ok: [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cat CVS/Root :ext:xemacs@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp:/usr/CVSroot [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cat CVS/Repository XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cvs upd ? ChangeLog.jas ? status ? todo cvs server: Updating . M mail-extr.el M rmailout.el [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cvs -d :pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs upd ? ChangeLog.jas ? status ? todo cvs server: Updating . cvs server: cannot open directory /pack/anoncvs/XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib: No such file or directory cvs server: skipping directory [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 14:39:28 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08558; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:39:07 -0500 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.de (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08531; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:38:40 -0500 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 161v0R-0007g0-0I; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 20:38:31 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.8.125]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 161v0J-0vKQAyC; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:38:23 +0100 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner), "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: <3d3pkq7w.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> Lines: 68 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: >> Hi Simon, please report specific problems you are seeing. Simon> cvs.sunsite.dk and tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp doesn't have the Simon> same "Repository" path. The following illustrates the That's right. I'll try to get a symlink created on SunSITE.dk to fix this. But that's not a sync problem. Can you give an example of what you called "doesn't seem to be tightly synced with tanko either"? Simon> problem, it is not enough to change the cvs root with -d, Simon> you need to edit CVS/Repository as well, as Stephen Simon> described. Simon> anon cvs ok, but ssh not ok: Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cat CVS/Root Simon> :pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cat CVS/Repository Simon> xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cvs upd Simon> ? ChangeLog.jas Simon> ? status Simon> ? todo Simon> cvs server: Updating . Simon> M mail-extr.el Simon> M rmailout.el Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cvs -w -z3 -d :ext:xemacs@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp:/usr/CVSroot upd Simon> ? ChangeLog.jas Simon> ? status Simon> ? todo Simon> cvs server: Updating . Simon> cvs server: cannot open directory /usr/CVSroot/xemacs-packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib: No such file or directory Simon> cvs server: skipping directory Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ Simon> ssh cvs ok, but anon cvs not ok: Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cat CVS/Root Simon> :ext:xemacs@tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp:/usr/CVSroot Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cat CVS/Repository Simon> XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cvs upd Simon> ? ChangeLog.jas Simon> ? status Simon> ? todo Simon> cvs server: Updating . Simon> M mail-extr.el Simon> M rmailout.el Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ cvs -d :pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs upd Simon> ? ChangeLog.jas Simon> ? status Simon> ? todo Simon> cvs server: Updating . Simon> cvs server: cannot open directory /pack/anoncvs/XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/mail-lib: No such file or directory Simon> cvs server: skipping directory Simon> [jas@dhcp128 mail-lib]$ -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 15:23:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10939; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:23:06 -0500 Received: from dolk.extundo.com (dolk.extundo.com [195.42.214.242]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10880; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:21:44 -0500 Received: from dhcp128.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fA8KLndi002675; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:21:49 +0100 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3d3pkq7w.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> From: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: <3d3pkq7w.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> (Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de's message of "08 Nov 2001 20:38:43 +0100") Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 21:21:18 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: > Simon> cvs.sunsite.dk and tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp doesn't have the > Simon> same "Repository" path. The following illustrates the > > That's right. I'll try to get a symlink created on SunSITE.dk to fix this. Thanks! > But that's not a sync problem. > > Can you give an example of what you called "doesn't seem to be tightly > synced with tanko either"? If I use tanko as CVS Root, I get the patch I committed today, if I use sunsite I don't get them. But you said that they are synchronized every day, and that's probably OK by me (except for mail-lib though..). From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 15:42:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA11915; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:42:03 -0500 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA11862; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:41:06 -0500 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 161vyy-0006uM-0E; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 21:41:04 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.8.125]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 161vyt-19XBpIC; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:40:59 +0100 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner), "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3d3pkq7w.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: Simon> cvs.sunsite.dk and tanko.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp doesn't have the Simon> same "Repository" path. The following illustrates the >> >> That's right. I'll try to get a symlink created on SunSITE.dk to fix this. Simon> Thanks! I'm afraid this will have to wait. It's not as simple as it looked. >> But that's not a sync problem. >> >> Can you give an example of what you called "doesn't seem to be tightly >> synced with tanko either"? Simon> If I use tanko as CVS Root, I get the patch I committed Simon> today, if I use sunsite I don't get them. But you said Isn't this the issue with the relative paths in .../CVS/Repository? Later, Adrian Simon> that they are synchronized every day, and that's probably Simon> OK by me (except for mail-lib though..). -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 16:41:28 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15838; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:41:08 -0500 Received: from dolk.extundo.com (dolk.extundo.com [195.42.214.242]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15753; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:40:22 -0500 Received: from dhcp128.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fA8LeNdi003142; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 22:40:23 +0100 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3d3pkq7w.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> From: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: (Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de's message of "08 Nov 2001 21:41:16 +0100") Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:39:51 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: > >> Can you give an example of what you called "doesn't seem to be tightly > >> synced with tanko either"? > > Simon> If I use tanko as CVS Root, I get the patch I committed > Simon> today, if I use sunsite I don't get them. But you said > > Isn't this the issue with the relative paths in .../CVS/Repository? No, I don't think so. If I change Root+Repository to be correct for sunsite, sunsite still doesn't contain the latest changes from tanko. This is not a problem, a 1 day delay is OK. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 16:54:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA16835; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:54:02 -0500 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.de (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA16779; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:53:09 -0500 Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 161x6i-0002tM-02; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:53:08 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.8.125]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 161x6a-1M9Ev2C; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 22:53:00 +0100 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: <87snbpcqq4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3d3pkq7w.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: >> >> Can you give an example of what you called "doesn't seem to be tightly >> >> synced with tanko either"? >> Simon> If I use tanko as CVS Root, I get the patch I committed Simon> today, if I use sunsite I don't get them. But you said >> >> Isn't this the issue with the relative paths in .../CVS/Repository? Simon> No, I don't think so. If I change Root+Repository to be Simon> correct for sunsite, sunsite still doesn't contain the Simon> latest changes from tanko. This is not a problem, a 1 day Hi Simon! I did a manual rsync earlier today on SunSITE.dk and your mail-lib checkin of today did get synced over to SunSITE.dk! bash-2.03$ cd /pack/xemacscvs/packages bash-2.03$ find . -mtime -1 -ls 30351 1 drwxrwsr-x 2 cvs xemacs 1024 Nov 8 20:29 ./xemacs-packages/mail-lib 32338 42 -r--r--r-- 1 adrian xemacs 42185 Nov 8 18:23 ./xemacs-packages/mail-lib/smtpmail.el,v 32337 40 -r--r--r-- 1 adrian xemacs 40803 Nov 8 18:23 ./xemacs-packages/mail-lib/ChangeLog,v bash-2.03$ Again: Please state exactly a few files which are not in sync NOW (i.e. showing up as locally modified because the repository is behind). Thanks in advance, Adrian Simon> delay is OK. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 8 18:41:42 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA22552; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:41:08 -0500 Received: from mail.rhein-zeitung.DE (mail.rhein-zeitung.DE [212.7.160.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA22493 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:39:57 -0500 Received: from frank-fmb8gc9rr (pppin36.max-hochsimmer.rz-online.NET [212.7.169.36]) by mail.rhein-zeitung.DE (8.10.2/8.11.0) with SMTP id fA8NdaR28133 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 00:39:40 +0100 X-Resent-From: X-Envelope-To: Received: from frank-fmb8gc9rr (HELO FRANK-FMB8GC9RR.Frank-Schmitt.net) [127.0.0.1] by frank-fmb8gc9rr (192.168.120.254) with ESMTP (Classic Hamster Version 1.3 Build 1.3.23.1) ; Fri, 09 Nov 2001 00:38:13 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Bug in timer.el From: Frank Schmitt Organization: Hamme net, kren mer och nimmi X-Face: "?Hv7MyYveeGDm66,O\f[l6!L*,`Q)c&3'8{9UGIM`EO8<3ASfX`8}W+u;F},&V%/y+cz(z&spQ(`CkKzCJY/@0R]aM#[W7*$(,QA-oO0f}Z2S0Y0~b5}|XDhQds[9}=t$Hf%G2c;zR%;$"~eI+dw3Gy!xKw=oduK(-, Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 00:38:12 +0100 Message-ID: <7kt0u93v.fsf@hschmi22.userfqdn.rz-online.de> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (Windows), i586-pc-win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: Hamster/1.3.23.1 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , OS version:Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.5 \"Civil Service (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. I'm quite sure there is a bug in timer.el. It says there: (defun cancel-function-timers (function) "Cancel all timers scheduled by `run-at-time' which would run FUNCTION." (interactive "aCancel timers of function: ") (let ((p itimer-list)) (while p (if (eq function (itimer-function p)) (progn (setq p (cdr p)) (delete-itimer (car p))) (setq p (cdr p)))))) But you see that p is a list of lists, so it all doesn't work. The fix is most simple: Instead of (if (eq function (itimer-function p)) it has to be (if (eq function (itimer-function (car p))) P.S. I found this one while porting the last version of cua.el to xemacs. When (if?) it runs, where should I send the file too? P.P.S. Please CC me when replying, I'm not subsribed to the list. -- One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. 19. Dezember 2001 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 9 04:45:19 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA17728; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 04:44:19 -0500 Received: from slipsten.extundo.com ([195.42.214.241]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA17716 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 04:43:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by slipsten.extundo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fA99hdw04940; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:43:39 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: slipsten.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:43:39 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Josefsson To: Adrian Aichner cc: Subject: Re: tm & gnus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 8 Nov 2001, Adrian Aichner wrote: > I did a manual rsync earlier today on SunSITE.dk and your mail-lib > checkin of today did get synced over to SunSITE.dk! Thanks. > Again: Please state exactly a few files which are not in sync NOW > (i.e. showing up as locally modified because the repository is > behind). Only ChangeLog and smtpmail.el in mail-lib, but you fixed this. (The problem is that the files don't show up as locally modified, they are reverted to the version on the server. So if I commit something on tanko, then go to sunsite, my changes are reverted until sunsite gets them. As I said, I can live with this.) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 9 12:24:15 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07632; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:23:11 -0500 Received: from boden.synopsys.com (boden.synopsys.com [204.176.20.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07613 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:22:42 -0500 Received: from mother.synopsys.com (mother.synopsys.com [146.225.100.171]) by boden.synopsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D138DBA0 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from DMASTER-LAP.synopsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mother.synopsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA03519 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:22:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:22:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111091722.JAA03519@mother.synopsys.com> From: David Masterson To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Dired doesn't reuse buffers properly on NT Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! On Windows NT 4.0 (presumably all MS-Windows systems), Dired is not reusing buffers properly. The problem appears to be due to Dired treating the directory name as case sensitive whereas MS-Windows is case insensitive. Therefore, if you edit the same directory, but specify the name once in upper case and once in lower case (or some combination thereof), Dired will assume it's two different directories and create new buffers for the directory. Perhaps read-file-name is not properly canonicalizing the directory name for Windows (or case insensitive) platforms? ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.5 \"Civil Service (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.5\". Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using minimal tagbits. Using indexed lrecord implementation. Using portable dumper. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (c:\MyDocuments\emacs\xemacs\folding c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\text-modes\folding c:\MyDocuments\emacs\xemacs\tq c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\vc-cc\tq) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.05 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) (viper :version 1.28 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.13 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.16 :type regular) (vc :version 1.28 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.29 :type regular) (time :version 1.11 :type regular) (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.32 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.18 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.21 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.13 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.11 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.12 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.23 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) (ps-print-nomule :version 1.05 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .42 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.55 :type regular) (pc :version 1.2 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.25 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) (misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.13 :type regular) (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.09 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) (jde :version 1.3 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.23 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.19 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.23 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.16 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.57 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.12 :type regular) (games :version 1.13 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (forms :version 1.13 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.13 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.34 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.01 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.08 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.01 :type regular) (eicq :version 1.05 :type regular) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.0 :type regular) (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.02 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Features: -------- (xemacsbug shadow view-less view hyper-apropos gnus-picon w3-forms w3-display advice advice-preload w3-imap w3-widget css font w3-mouse w3-vars w3-cus w3-keyword url mm mule-sysdp url-parse url-vars sort smiley annotations gnus-cite gnus-async gnus-score score-mode gnus-ml gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mm-view disp-table gnus-sum nndraft nnmh timezone gnus-cache gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail mail-source format-spec nntp nnoo gnus-start gnus-range gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-win gnus gnus-ems gnus-xmas wid-edit message messagexmas mml mm-decode mm-encode mailcap mm-bodies uudecode mail-parse rfc2045 rfc2231 rfc2047 qp ietf-drums mail-abbrevs mailheader gnus-util time-date parse-time nnheader nnheaderxm mail-utils mm-util mail-prsvr efs-cu dired-faces dired-xemacs dired supercite mail-extr regi smtpmail rfc2104 starttls time-stamp sendmail font-lock cus-face paren blink-paren zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-nomule-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows toolbar native-sound scrollbar network-streams subprocesses menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- C-k C-c C-c RET n = c y SPC SPC c y SPC c y SPC c y q y C-h a t o o l b a r RET next next down down down down down down RET down down down down down RET q C-x C-b C-x 1 C-x d RET n n n n n n n n n n f n n n n n n n n n n f q q q C-x C-b C-x 1 ESC x r e p SPC o SPC r SPC SPC x SPC e SPC BS SPC RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Making completion list... Making completion list... Making completion list... Reading directory c:\MyDocuments\emacs\xemacs\...done Reading directory c:\MyDocuments\emacs\xemacs\... Reading directory c:\MyDocuments\emacs\...done Reading directory c:\MyDocuments\emacs\... Reading directory c:\MyDocuments\...done Reading directory c:\MyDocuments\... Saving c:\MyDocuments\.newsrc.eld...done Wrote c:\MyDocuments\.newsrc.eld Saving c:\MyDocuments\.newsrc.eld... Wrote c:\MyDocuments\.newsrc Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n) Yes Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n) No more unread newsgroups Mark all unread articles as read? (y or n) Yes Mark all unread articles as read? (y or n) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 9 17:00:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA27154; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:00:09 -0500 Received: from mailrelay.cacheflow.com (mailrelay.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA27050 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 16:59:20 -0500 Received: from cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com (cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.25]) by mailrelay.cacheflow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19596 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:59:16 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:59:16 -0800 Message-Id: <200111092159.NAA19596@mailrelay.cacheflow.com> Received: from eos.redmond.cacheflow.com.cacheflow.com ([10.252.7.232]) by cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id WSVVK6Q6; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:58:43 -0800 From: "David M. Karr" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Speedbarv0.13: "e" fails in "speedbar-tag-find" & mouse-clicks ignored Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 3) "Academic Rigor" [Lucid] (i686-pc-linux) of Tue Jul 10 2001 on eos.redmond.cacheflow.com configured using `configure --prefix=/home/david.karr/local' Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: I have two separate issues with Speedbar, v0.13 and v0.13a (from sourceforge). After opening up Speedbar and seeing the file list, and opening up the functions in a file, I put the cursor on one of the functions and typed "e", and got the following stack trace: Signaling: (wrong-type-argument integer-or-marker-p #) speedbar-tag-find("XMLdestroy()" # 3) speedbar-do-function-pointer() #?}] [^ ]" nil t speedbar-do-function-pointer] 4 ("/home/david.karr/speedbar/speedbar-0.13a/speedbar.elc" . 75908) nil>() call-interactively(speedbar-edit-line) dispatch-event(#) dframe-xemacs-popup-kludge(#) call-interactively(dframe-xemacs-popup-kludge) The other more minor issue is that when I click on the "+", for either files or sections of files, it does nothing. Typing "+" works, but not the mouse. I'm using the version of Semantic that's installed with XEmacs 21.4.3, which appears to be 1.3.3. Recent keystrokes: C-p C-SPC C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n ESC q C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-SPC C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n ESC w q M-x x e m TAB r e TAB BS BS b u g TAB BS TAB BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS r e p o TAB r - e BS x e m TAB BS BS BS e m TAB BS BS BS t - e m TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): No buffer matching `stuff', create one? (y or n) Yes No buffer matching `stuff', create one? (y or n) Loading emacsbug...done Loading emacsbug... Making completion list... Buffer is read-only: # Entering debugger... Loading debug...done Loading debug... XMLplugin.c: [#######################################################] ... done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 9 20:06:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA18142; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:05:19 -0500 Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (obelix.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA17980 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:04:20 -0500 Received: from confusibombus (pop-be-13-2-dialup-10.freesurf.ch [194.230.27.10]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id fAA145j09863; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 02:04:05 +0100 Received: from alex by confusibombus with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 162MUf-00009z-00; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:59:33 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: XEmacs Beta List , Emacs Bidi List Subject: Re: Emacs bidi References: <877kt2zi2d.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zo5xemn1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Alex Schroeder X-Face: ^BC$`[IcggstLPyen&dqF+b2'zyK#r.mU*'Nms}@&4zw%SJ#5!/7SMVjBS7'lb;QK)|IPU5U'o1'522W4TyzB3Ab*IBo^iw]l4|kUbdZuUDO6=Um-.4IzhNiV'B"@K#jy_(wW|Zbk[34flKY^|PrQ?$u2\fKg^]AY>wOX#H32i Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:59:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87zo5xemn1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "08 Nov 2001 16:40:18 +0900") Message-ID: <87g07nphje.fsf@gnu.org> Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >>>>>> "Alex" == Alex Schroeder writes: > > Alex> I just checked the "On-line proceedings for m17n2000" and > Alex> found your name on the list of speakers. I'm currently > Alex> starting to work on Emacs bidi. One place where this takes > Alex> place is the emacs-bidi mailing list. Is there a similar > Alex> place for XEmacs bidi work? > > xemacs-beta will do. Nobody's picked up on it yet; we have no Arabic- > writing users AFAIK and very few Hebrew writers. If something gets > started, we could have a separate list. However, presumably bidi will > involve surgery on Mule and redisplay. We would probably make a CVS > branch, with intent to merge fairly quickly. So it would be best to > keep the general developer community informed, and xemacs-beta is > currently the best channel for that. Ok, I'll just keep you XEmacs guys informed of what's going on emacs-bidi from time to time. Eli Zaretskii is writing code for the redisplay which will take bidi into account while redisplaying. It is based on UAX#9 but uses a character-by-character-approach just like current Emacs redisplay: Based on the current position in the buffer, the "next" character is fetched. Instead of just incrementing the position, Eli does some scanning, caching, jumping and direction reversing such that the "next" character for redisplay is indeed the next character in visual order (in the window), but not necessarily the next character in logical order (in the buffer). UAX#9 is the Unicode Standard Annex #9 Technical Report and is available at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr9/. TAKAHASHI Naoto and HANDA Kenichi are writing code to display Arabic from Unicode and ISO-8859-6 correctly. Those encodings use only one character for the various glyphs (start, middle, end, isolated form), so the display code needs to know about some basic Arabic rules to get this right. This is done using font-lock to identify the region of interest and compose-region to compose any number of characters into another character. There's a screenshot available at http://www.m17n.org/ntakahas/arabic.png. I myself am just getting into this. :) At the moment I'm writing code to create categories usable for bidi according to UAX#9. Currently I use one such categories for each bidi type in UAX#9. I use a table derived from UnicodeData.txt (available from www.unicode.org) to get all bidi types for UCS characters, and then I use tables from Dave Love's ucs-tables.el to use this information for all 8859 charsets. I assume that -- as more unification tables from UCS to the various other charsets become available -- the bidi categories can be for more and more charsets. This code is available from the emacs-bidi archives, http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-bidi/. The next thing on the list is a function to revert the bidi-algorithm: To derive a logical form given the visual form. We assume that such a thing may be valuable when treating text pasted from other applications where the original logical ordering (and all the explicit bidi marks) got lost. Alex. -- http://www.emacswiki.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 9 21:23:27 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA32639; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 21:23:03 -0500 Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA32568 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 21:22:38 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C430322 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 19:22:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE868646 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 19:22:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id SAA23995 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 18:22:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111100222.SAA23995@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Glyph example documentation Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 18:22:25 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , FYI, I'm adding some examples to the lispref documentation, on how to display graphics in a buffer. Here is my current draft. Before I submit patches, I'd like to get some comments. [ Although the following is a formatted info node, I am doing all of the changes in texinfo. ] -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. =============================================================================== File: lispref.info, Node: Glyph Examples, Prev: Subwindows, Up: Glyphs Glyph Examples ============== For many applications, displaying graphics is a simple process: you create a glyph, and then you insert it into the buffer. The easiest way to create a glyph is to use a file that contains a graphical image, such as a JPEG, TIFF, or PNG file: ;; Create a glyph from a JPEG file: (setq foo (make-glyph [jpeg :file "/tmp/file1.jpg"])) ;; Create a glyph from a XPM file: (setq foo (make-glyph [xpm :file "/tmp/file2.xpm"])) ;; Create a glyph from a PNG file: (setq foo (make-glyph [png :file "/tmp/file3.png"])) ;; Create a glyph from a TIFF file: (setq foo (make-glyph [tiff :file "/tmp/file4.tiff"])) The parameters passed to `make-glyph' are called "Image Specifiers", and can handle more image types than those shown above. You can also put the raw image data into a string (e.g., if you put the contents of a JPEG file into a string), and use that to create a glyph. *Note Image Specifiers::, for more information. *Caution*: In order for XEmacs to read a particular graphics file format, support for that format must have been compiled into XEmacs. It's possible, although somewhat unlikely, for XEmacs to have been compiled without support for any of the various graphics file formats. To see what graphics formats your particular version of XEmacs supports, use `M-x describe-installation'. Once you have a glyph, you can then insert it into a buffer. Example: ;; Use this function to insert a glyph at the left edge of point in the ;; current buffer. Any existing glyph at this location is replaced. (defun insert-glyph (gl) "Insert a glyph at the left edge of point." (let ( (prop 'myimage) ;; myimage is an arbitrary name, chosen ;; to (hopefully) not conflict with any ;; other properties. Change it if ;; necessary. extent ) ;; First, check to see if one of OUR extents already exists at point. ;; For ease-of-programming, we are creating and using our own extents ;; (multiple extents are allowed to exist/overlap at the same point). ;; Basically, if an extent, with the property stored in "prop", ;; exists at point, we assume that it is one of ours, and we re-use ;; it (this is why it is important for the property stored in "prop" ;; to be unique, and only used by us). (if (not (setq extent (extent-at (point) (current-buffer) prop))) (progn ;; If an extent does not already exist, create a zero-length ;; extent, and give it our special property. (setq extent (make-extent (point) (point) (current-buffer))) (set-extent-property extent prop t) )) ;; Display the glyph by storing it as the extent's "begin-glyph". (set-extent-property extent 'begin-glyph gl) )) ;; You can then use this function like: (insert-glyph (make-glyph [jpeg :file "/tmp/file1.jpg"])) ;; This will insert the glyph at point. ;; Here's an example of how to insert two glyphs side-by-side, at point ;; (using the above code): (progn (insert-glyph (make-glyph [jpeg :file "/tmp/file1.jpg"])) ;; Create a new extent at point. We can't simply call "insert-glyph", ;; as "insert-glyph" will simply replace the first glyph with the ;; second. (setq extent (make-extent (point) (point) (current-buffer))) ;; Here, we're only setting the 'myimage property in case we need ;; to later identify/locate/reuse this particular extent. (set-extent-property extent 'myimage t) (set-extent-property extent 'begin-glyph (make-glyph [jpeg :file "/tmp/file2.jpg"])) ) Here are the gory details: * Glyphs are displayed by attaching them to extents (see *Note Extents::), either to the beginning or the end of extents. * Glyphs are often displayed inside the text area (alongside text). This is the default. Although glyphs can also be displayed in the margins, how to do this will not be described here. For more information on this, see *Note Annotation Basics:: (look for information on "layout types") and *Note Extent Properties:: (look for `begin-glyph-layout' and `end-glyph-layout'). * The easiest way to insert a glyph into text is to create a zero-length extent at the point where you want the glyph to appear. * It's often a good idea to assign a unique property to the newly-created extent, in case you later want to locate it, and replace any existing glyph with a different one (or just delete the existing one). In the above example, we are using "myimage" as our unique property name. * Glyphs are displayed by assigning then to the `begin-glyph' or `end-glyph' property of the extent. For zero-length extents, it doesn't really matter if you assign the glyph to the `begin-glyph' or `end-glyph' property, as they are both at the same location; however, for non-zero-length extents (extents that cover one or more characters of text), it does matter which one you use. Assigning `nil' to the `begin-glyph' or `end-glyph' property will delete any existing glyph (in this case, you may also want to delete the extent). * If you happen to insert two glyphs, side-by-side, note that the example `insert-glyph' function will have trouble, if it's again used at the same point (it can only locate one of the two extents). To locate all of the extents, you'll have to use functions like `extent-list' or `next-extent', or provide additional parameters to the `extent-at' function. *Note Mapping Over Extents::, for more information. * Among other things, glyphs provide a way of displaying graphics alongside text. Note, however, that glyphs only provide a way of displaying graphics; glyphs are not actually part of the text, and are only displayed alongside the text. The low-level glyph code does not provide a way of saving graphics with the text. If you need to save graphics and text, you have to write your own code to do this, and this topic is outside the scope of this discussion. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 10 02:29:40 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA16744; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 02:29:11 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA16595 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 02:28:15 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 162SY1-0000Uk-00; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:27:25 +0900 To: "David M. Karr" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Speedbarv0.13: "e" fails in "speedbar-tag-find" & mouse-clicks ignored References: <200111092159.NAA19596@mailrelay.cacheflow.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 10 Nov 2001 16:27:25 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200111092159.NAA19596@mailrelay.cacheflow.com> Message-ID: <87vggj6q76.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 59 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "David" == David M Karr writes: David> I have two separate issues with Speedbar, v0.13 and v0.13a David> (from sourceforge). Please report this to speedbar-bugs@xemacs.org or semantic@xemacs.org, which forwards to the maintainer (same guy in each case). (This kind of alias works[1] for _all_ packages; those packages which do not have a specific external maintainer will be directed here to xemacs-beta. There are also -discuss, -patches, and -maintainer aliases available for all packages.) We currently have problems with both our CVS repository and communication with the XEmacs Package Czar, so this is not going to be addressed by XEmacs quickly. Sorry; we're doing the best we can to get things back under way. However, the first priority is to catch up with existing releases; we cannot afford to spend effort fixing externally maintained packages, as that requires coordination with upstream anyway. We would really appreciate it if you would short-circuit the coordination problem by communicating directly with the upstream maintainer, and letting us know when they release a fix. Then we can synch our repository and release with very little fuss. David> Signaling: (wrong-type-argument integer-or-marker-p #) David> speedbar-tag-find("XMLdestroy()" # 3) My suspicion is that semantic expects an overlay (cf fsf-compat) here. David> The other more minor issue is that when I click on the "+", David> for either files or sections of files, it does nothing. David> Typing "+" works, but not the mouse. Again, please report upstream. It may be an XEmacs bug, but we do't have any speedbar expertise available at the moment. David> I'm using the version of Semantic that's installed with David> XEmacs 21.4.3, which appears to be 1.3.3. "Installed with"? You mean via the Cygwin netinstaller or the like? You can find out what our version number is with Tools | Packages | List and Install from the menubar. Footnotes: [1] There is a bug in our forwarding setup; it simply forwards without munging headers. This gets rejected by many listservs for "implicit address." Currently, the JDE aliases are known to be broken in this way. The fix is simple in principle but to avoid spamming people, I'm not going to test online. This takes extra time. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 10 02:41:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA18590; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 02:41:04 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA18516 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 02:40:38 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 162Sk0-0000V0-00; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:39:48 +0900 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Glyph example documentation References: <200111100222.SAA23995@mina.soco.agilent.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 10 Nov 2001 16:39:48 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200111100222.SAA23995@mina.soco.agilent.com> Message-ID: <87pu6r6pmj.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> I'm adding some examples to the lispref Darryl> documentation, on how to display graphics in a buffer. Thanks! Darryl> *Caution*: In order for XEmacs to read a particular Darryl> graphics file format, support for that format must have Darryl> been compiled into XEmacs. M-x describe-installation is not very useful to a program. I believe (mapcar #'(lambda (format-symbol) (featurep format-symbol)) '(gif tiff jpeg xpm png)) gets all the relevant information (but I haven't checked that). Darryl> * It's often a good idea to assign a unique property to Darryl> the newly-created extent, in case you later want to locate Darryl> it An @xref to searching over extents would be nice. Oh, you have ti, don't you---better here rather than later IMO. YMMV. Darryl> delete any existing glyph (in this case, you may also Darryl> want to delete the extent). ... which is not automatic. Extents are multipurpose, and don't know that you only put them there to attach glyphs to. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 10 07:43:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA30006; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 07:42:08 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA29931; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 07:41:39 -0500 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 162XS5-0000YE-0C; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:41:37 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.13.157]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 162XRv-0naqsiC; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:41:27 +0100 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: Adrian Aichner , Subject: Re: tm & gnus References: X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> On 8 Nov 2001, Adrian Aichner wrote: >> I did a manual rsync earlier today on SunSITE.dk and your mail-lib >> checkin of today did get synced over to SunSITE.dk! Simon> Thanks. >> Again: Please state exactly a few files which are not in sync NOW >> (i.e. showing up as locally modified because the repository is >> behind). Simon> Only ChangeLog and smtpmail.el in mail-lib, but you fixed Simon> this. Great! This confirms rsync to work right for xemacs packages too. Simon> (The problem is that the files don't show up as locally Simon> modified, they are reverted to the version on the server. Simon> So if I commit something on tanko, then go to sunsite, my Simon> changes are reverted until sunsite gets them. As I said, I Simon> can live with this.) OK, I'll concentrate on getting this fixed for good. This won't happen over this weekend though. Best regards, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 10 13:33:41 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15456; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:33:07 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15367 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:31:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.optonline.net (ool-182db51c.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.181.28]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GML00GIYKRJZJ@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:30:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:30:37 -0500 From: Les Schaffer X-Face: [V?bWTh\+_V")"gXxY9KGQozO(|>ggwp;\Ds6@YGoS$wreQaSLmhWUp%V;okpj4C^i$FQWK Q:/luO.Zh=VP"U5M.%m1cK:v9DgiQp^JK47nxE^=e3~HPoLmY,igNBZo)LUT3a2CFm*chsyaq7~=dU _IX>v[h$BZsa*yn5;?{|3Z@ZI@FL(e`-@wq`f?~{1){A%o:/t"39M@}ER]6.62NbfxrD%!{9!So^\9 c Subject: tracking gtk bugs down To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Reply-to: Les Schaffer Message-id: <15341.29261.724295.540012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta2) "artichoke" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.18. Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I've started tracking down the two gtk bugs which i have reported on previously. Since i am just learning about xemacs/gtk internals, its taking me a little time. So i am keeping a page where people can read along as i debug: http://folks.astrian.net/godzilla/gtk-bugs.html if anyone wants to lend a hand, let me know. I've put some xemcs/gtk questions at the bottom of the page, if anyone has any hints on them, could prove to be useful. i'll keep the page updated till the two bugs get squished. les schaffer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 10 19:24:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA29568; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:23:07 -0500 Received: from imailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (imailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.179]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA29544 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:22:41 -0500 Received: from modem-776.narley.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.183.8] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by imailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 162iON-0007m0-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:22:32 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 162iT4-0001m8-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:27:22 +0000 To: Les Schaffer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: tracking gtk bugs down References: <15341.29261.724295.540012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.1.10 (i386-debian-linux) Organisation: [night shift] X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 11 Nov 2001 00:27:22 +0000 In-Reply-To: <15341.29261.724295.540012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Les Schaffer's message of "Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:30:37 -0500") Message-ID: <87wv0y6tjp.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Les Schaffer wrote: > I've started tracking down the two gtk bugs which i have reported on > previously. There is a third problem, namely that default faces for highlight and zmacs-region (perhaps others) don't get set correctly. The code to set them up was moved from faces.el to gtk-faces.el (both of which are dumped). I wonder whether anyone has investigated further. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 02:15:34 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA14277; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 02:15:13 -0500 Received: from mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.232]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA14233 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 02:14:48 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240]) by mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAB7EiJ03458 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:14:45 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:20:20 +1000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: cvs updating X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.4 (patch 5) "Civil Service" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , hi all ive just done an update of my 21.5 source tree via cvs from sunsite.dk i used the commands provided by Nevin Kapur (thanks Nevin) note i had to change the command's to find . -name Root -exec perl -pi -e 's/xemacs\@cvs\.xemacs\.org:\/usr\/CVSroot/cvs\@sunsite\.dk:\/pack\/anoncvs/''{}' ';' and find . -name Repository -exec perl -pi -e 's/XEmacs\/xemacs/xemacs/' '{}' ';' to get them to work here i got a bunch of Unknown errors when i did my cvs update after running the above commands it says all the files in info/ are Unknown any idea what could be causing this ?? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter (Rendhalver) XEmacs Advocate http://www.xemacs.org/ Perl Hacker http://www.perl.com/ Apache God http://httpd.apache.org/ FreeBSD Devote http://www.FreeBSD.org/ rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net do not try and bend the spoon, thats impossible. but try to realise the truth. and that is? there is no spoon. - Neo and child Prodigy - The Matrix ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 05:54:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA26351; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:54:07 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA26325; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:53:45 -0500 Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 162sFE-0008Mf-04; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:53:44 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[62.226.162.57]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 162sF4-1AgPUeC; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:53:34 +0100 To: rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 63 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown writes: Peter> hi all Peter> ive just done an update of my 21.5 source tree via cvs from Peter> sunsite.dk i used the commands provided by Nevin Kapur Peter> (thanks Nevin) Peter> note i had to change the command's to Peter> find . -name Root -exec perl -pi -e 's/xemacs\@cvs\.xemacs\.org:\/usr\/CVSroot/cvs\@sunsite\.dk:\/pack\/anoncvs/''{}' ';' Peter> and Peter> find . -name Repository -exec perl -pi -e 's/XEmacs\/xemacs/xemacs/' '{}' ';' Peter> to get them to work here Peter> i got a bunch of Unknown errors when i did my cvs update Peter> after running the above commands it says all the files in Peter> info/ are Unknown Hi Peter, info/dir should be known. Try M-x cvs-status on the info directory. The other files are all generated and therefore indeed unknown to CVS. Hope this helps, Adrian Peter> any idea what could be causing this ?? Peter> -- Peter> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter> Peter (Rendhalver) Peter> XEmacs Advocate http://www.xemacs.org/ Peter> Perl Hacker http://www.perl.com/ Peter> Apache God http://httpd.apache.org/ Peter> FreeBSD Devote http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Peter> rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net Peter> do not try and bend the spoon, thats impossible. Peter> but try to realise the truth. Peter> and that is? Peter> there is no spoon. Peter> - Neo and child Prodigy Peter> - The Matrix Peter> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 06:45:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA27755; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 06:45:02 -0500 Received: from mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.172]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA27731 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 06:44:35 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240]) by mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fABBiWu27104; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:44:33 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15342.26096.212619.742471@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:50:08 +1000 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating In-Reply-To: References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.4 (patch 5) "Civil Service" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Rendhalver (Peter Brown)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: > >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown writes: > > Peter> hi all > > Peter> ive just done an update of my 21.5 source tree via cvs from > Peter> sunsite.dk i used the commands provided by Nevin Kapur > Peter> (thanks Nevin) > > Peter> note i had to change the command's to > > Peter> find . -name Root -exec perl -pi -e 's/xemacs\@cvs\.xemacs\.org:\/usr\/CVSroot/cvs\@sunsite\.dk:\/pack\/anoncvs/''{}' ';' > > Peter> and > > Peter> find . -name Repository -exec perl -pi -e 's/XEmacs\/xemacs/xemacs/' '{}' ';' > > Peter> to get them to work here > > Peter> i got a bunch of Unknown errors when i did my cvs update > Peter> after running the above commands it says all the files in > Peter> info/ are Unknown > > Hi Peter, > > info/dir should be known. > > Try > M-x cvs-status > on the info directory. > > The other files are all generated and therefore indeed unknown to CVS. > > Hope this helps, oki cool thanks adrian thats what it is info/dir is known that explains it, it was just something i had not seen before wasnt sure whether it was something i missed doing the CVS/Root and CVS/Repository fixing thanks adrian -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter (Rendhalver) XEmacs Advocate http://www.xemacs.org/ Perl Hacker http://www.perl.com/ Apache God http://httpd.apache.org/ FreeBSD Devote http://www.FreeBSD.org/ rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net do not try and bend the spoon, thats impossible. but try to realise the truth. and that is? there is no spoon. - Neo and child Prodigy - The Matrix ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 09:30:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA32413; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:29:07 -0500 Received: from boffi95.stru.polimi.it (boffi95.stru.polimi.it [131.175.24.94]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA32398 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:28:28 -0500 Received: from gb by boffi95.stru.polimi.it with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 162van-0006QE-00 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:28:13 +0100 From: giacomo boffi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:28:11 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating In-Reply-To: References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: > >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown writes: > Peter> ive just done an update of my 21.5 source tree via cvs from > Peter> sunsite.dk i used the commands provided by Nevin Kapur > Hi Peter, > uh, it's open for anonymous cvs? i tred to login with the old password and a null password but i was anyhow rejected... 15:18:23 [gb@localhost xemacs] export CVSROOT=:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs/ 15:18:31 [gb@localhost xemacs] cvs login (Logging in to cvs@sunsite.dk) CVS password: cvs login: authorization failed: server sunsite.dk rejected access to /pack/anoncvs for user cvs 15:19:18 [gb@localhost xemacs] cvs login (Logging in to cvs@sunsite.dk) CVS password: cvs login: authorization failed: server sunsite.dk rejected access to /pack/anoncvs for user cvs 15:23:31 [gb@localhost xemacs] ciao From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 10:01:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01272; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:01:03 -0500 Received: from fermat.mts.jhu.edu (fermat.mts.jhu.edu [128.220.17.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00998 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:54:35 -0500 Received: (from nevin@localhost) by fermat.mts.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fABEsW023564; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:54:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: fermat.mts.jhu.edu: nevin set sender to nevin@jhu.edu using -f To: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> X-Face: H~?ZI_L2!bGIrH^iC0e8t85[S`lwpP_/-sOvkGnN[\)[S";}xM3[Ib!ljz-80yK9SIf9sz6/DcY?yKUq1=-&XdrLjA^wK1 From: Nevin Kapur In-Reply-To: <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> (giacomo boffi's message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:28:11 +0100") Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , giacomo boffi writes: > uh, it's open for anonymous cvs? i tred to login with the old > password and a null password but i was anyhow rejected... The anonymous password is 'cvs'. See http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html. -- Nevin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 10:04:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01473; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:04:06 -0500 Received: from mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.176]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01208 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:59:52 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240]) by mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fABExj220633; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:59:45 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15342.37809.659879.99860@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:05:21 +1000 To: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating In-Reply-To: <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.4 (patch 5) "Civil Service" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , giacomo boffi writes: > Adrian Aichner writes: > > >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown writes: > > Peter> ive just done an update of my 21.5 source tree via cvs from > > Peter> sunsite.dk i used the commands provided by Nevin Kapur > > > Hi Peter, > > > > uh, it's open for anonymous cvs? i tred to login with the old > password and a null password but i was anyhow rejected... i believe the password is "cvs" (without "'s of course) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 11:10:28 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA03750; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:10:03 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA03724; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:09:54 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13718; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:09:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA03581; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com ([131.101.127.52]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA23041; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:05:00 +0100 (MET) To: Nevin Kapur Cc: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 11 Nov 2001 17:10:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: Nevin> giacomo boffi writes: >> uh, it's open for anonymous cvs? i tred to login with the old >> password and a null password but i was anyhow rejected... Nevin> The anonymous password is 'cvs'. See Nevin> http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html. Right! I just tried it and it even works again :-) Changes are still ahead though. We'll keep xemacs-beta posted and http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html along with http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/packages.html and http://www.xemacs.org/About/Website.html will be the master documents for any CVS changes. Cheers! Adrian Nevin> -- Nevin> Nevin -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 15:47:24 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13740; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:45:22 -0500 Received: from boffi95.stru.polimi.it (boffi95.stru.polimi.it [131.175.24.94]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13651; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:44:53 -0500 Received: from gb by boffi95.stru.polimi.it with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1631T9-0006UN-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:44:43 +0100 From: giacomo boffi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15342.58168.349626.49405@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:44:40 +0100 To: Adrian Aichner Cc: Nevin Kapur , giacomo.boffi@polimi.it, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating In-Reply-To: References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: > Changes are still ahead though. > > We'll keep xemacs-beta posted and > http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html uh, i looked for instructions in the website before bothering the list, but somehow i missed the relevant information... is it possible that there is a missing link? (well, probably it's just me being temporarily blind ;-) and, before i forgot... thank you Nevin and Peter for your reply From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 16:18:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15267; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:17:02 -0500 Received: from mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu (mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.202.9]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15190 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:15:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (twitzel@localhost) by mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu with ESMTP id fABLFvRB020967 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:15:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:15:57 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Witzel X-X-Sender: To: Subject: problems with compiling auctex Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This might be slightly offtopic, but I just got xemacs-21.4.5 and tried to compile auctex-11.06 as well as auctex-10.0g with it. I always get this error: Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/auc-old.el... While compiling toplevel forms in file /scratch/auctex-11.06/auc-old.el: !! Symbol's value as variable is void ((popup-mode-menu)) >>Error occurred processing auc-old.el: Symbol's value as variable is void: popup-mode-menu Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex.el... Wrote /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex.elc Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex-buf.el... While compiling toplevel forms in file /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex-buf.el: !! Symbol's value as variable is void ((popup-mode-menu)) >>Error occurred processing tex-buf.el: Symbol's value as variable is void: popup-mode-menu Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/latex.el... While compiling toplevel forms in file /scratch/auctex-11.06/latex.el: !! Symbol's value as variable is void ((popup-mode-menu)) >>Error occurred processing latex.el: Symbol's value as variable is void: popup-mode-menu Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex-info.el... While compiling toplevel forms in file /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex-info.el: !! Symbol's value as variable is void ((popup-mode-menu)) >>Error occurred processing tex-info.el: Symbol's value as variable is void: popup-mode-menu I was browsing and googling for a while and found only messages that one should use a binary distribution than and so forth. I would like to fix that problem on my machine and use xemacs with this auctex. Any suggestions how to interpret above message ? I know lisp and scheme but never wrote stuff for emacs/xemacs. thanks alot, Thomas Witzel From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 19:10:49 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA21636; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:10:03 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA21608 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:09:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 73144 invoked by uid 50); 12 Nov 2001 00:09:49 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 73101 invoked by uid 0); 12 Nov 2001 00:09:48 -0000 Received: from dialupe196.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.112.196) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 2001 00:09:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3BEF1375.C4E2B77D@666.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:10:29 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, Andy Piper Subject: Re: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 References: <87d730rn8b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BE80B5C.8146EFA3@666.com> <874ro7hkan.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing writes: > > Ben> i don't see extra specs. > > What I'm referring to is the fact that my understanding was that (1) > we clear out all the specs that match the tagset, then (2) we prepend > the new spec. there's some confusion here. your sentences above describe changing the specifiers ... That would imply that the :file spec from the fallback > should not be picked up and used in preference to the :data spec which > the user (via live-icon) has specified. But that seems to be what's > happening. ... but these describe the process of instantiation. these are different. "clear out all the specs that match the tagset" occurs only in the same locale; if i add a global spec that's restricted to `mswindows', it makes no sense to clear out buffer-local specs also restricted to `mswindows'. furthermore, fallback specs are never changed -- that's the nature of fallback. but there does appear to be a bug in the instantiation process, as i said. this may be related to andy's widget changes. in particular, andy added a bunch of caches of various sorts, and it's quite possible that a cache isn't getting properly cleared. andy, could you take a look? > > Maybe I'm just confused. Specifiers can be pretty confusing. > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 19:25:46 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA22905; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:25:01 -0500 Received: from femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA22812; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:24:06 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011112002357.CKHL3462.femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:23:57 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Ben Wing" , "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Subject: RE: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:24:03 -0800 Message-ID: <000401c16b10$554f8c90$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <3BEF1375.C4E2B77D@666.com> Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Does anyone have a test case for the bug? andy > -----Original Message----- > From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org > [mailto:xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Ben Wing > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 4:10 PM > To: Stephen J. Turnbull > Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Andy Piper > Subject: Re: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 > > > > > "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > > > >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing writes: > > > > Ben> i don't see extra specs. > > > > What I'm referring to is the fact that my understanding was that (1) > > we clear out all the specs that match the tagset, then (2) we prepend > > the new spec. > > there's some confusion here. your sentences above describe changing the > specifiers ... > > That would imply that the :file spec from the fallback > > should not be picked up and used in preference to the :data spec which > > the user (via live-icon) has specified. But that seems to be what's > > happening. > > ... but these describe the process of instantiation. these are > different. > "clear out all the specs that match the tagset" occurs only in > the same locale; > if i add a global spec that's restricted to `mswindows', it makes > no sense to > clear out buffer-local specs also restricted to `mswindows'. > > furthermore, fallback specs are never changed -- that's the > nature of fallback. > > but there does appear to be a bug in the instantiation process, > as i said. this > may be related to andy's widget changes. in particular, andy > added a bunch of > caches of various sorts, and it's quite possible that a cache > isn't getting > properly cleared. > > andy, could you take a look? > > > > > > Maybe I'm just confused. Specifiers can be pretty confusing. > > > > -- > > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 19:29:11 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23429; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:00 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA23278 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:28:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 3199 invoked by uid 50); 12 Nov 2001 00:28:04 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 3154 invoked by uid 0); 12 Nov 2001 00:28:02 -0000 Received: from dialupe196.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.112.196) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 2001 00:28:02 -0000 Message-ID: <3BEF17BB.52C35456@666.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:28:43 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Paul Krause , Andy Piper , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <001701c16671$8774a230$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <4.3.2.7.2.20011106093237.00b38bc8@san-francisco.beasys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011106143931.00b5c690@san-francisco.beasys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper wrote: > > At 05:36 PM 11/6/2001 -0500, Paul Krause wrote: > >That's for sure. It especially bites me when I compile and skip to the > >next-error, which is usually line 2394 in a 3500 line file. The file gets > >fontified and parsed, but to edit it, but have to check out from perforce. > >Then not only does the fortification and parsing start all over, but the > >buffer-position gets trashed (probably an unrelated bug in perforce.el, but > >I never figured it out), and I'm back on line 1 again. Kinda sucks. > > Yeah, I get this. I think its actually a bug in XEmacs related to > revert-buffer. Doing the md5 thing avoids both problems. some suggestions in how to make this patch workable: 1] it's never ok to hide a bug by working around it rather than fixing it. 2] don't do anything clever like use md5. 3] keep in mind there are many revert-buffer hooks, some of which explicitly replace the normal operation of inserting the file. your patch as is completely runs over them. the only hook that you can [reasonably safely] optimize away is `after-revert-hook' [and possibly `before-revert-hook']. to make your patch safe, it would have to do all the steps to actually revert the buffer, but do it in another buffer, and then finally compare the results and skip calling `after-revert-hook' if they're the same. if semantic hooks off of `after-revert-hook' [which it probably does], you're in luck. with a bit of effort you can also avoid having the before/after-change functions called. 4] if you do implement this, it should *always* be on. no variable to control its behavior. instead, we simply make a behavior change in `after-revert-hook' -- it's not called if the buffer contents don't change as a result of the revert. for reference, here's the doc for revert-buffer: (revert-buffer &optional IGNORE-AUTO NOCONFIRM PRESERVE-MODES) Documentation: Replace the buffer text with the text of the visited file on disk. This undoes all changes since the file was visited or saved. With a prefix argument, offer to revert from latest auto-save file, if that is more recent than the visited file. This command also works for special buffers that contain text which doesn't come from a file, but reflects some other data base instead: for example, Dired buffers and buffer-list buffers. In these cases, it reconstructs the buffer contents from the appropriate data base. When called from Lisp, the first argument is IGNORE-AUTO; only offer to revert from the auto-save file when this is nil. Note that the sense of this argument is the reverse of the prefix argument, for the sake of backward compatibility. IGNORE-AUTO is optional, defaulting to nil. Optional second argument NOCONFIRM means don't ask for confirmation at all. Optional third argument PRESERVE-MODES non-nil means don't alter the files modes. Normally we reinitialize them using `normal-mode'. If the value of `revert-buffer-function' is non-nil, it is called to do all the work for this command. Otherwise, the hooks `before-revert-hook' and `after-revert-hook' are run at the beginning and the end, and if `revert-buffer-insert-file-contents-function' is non-nil, it is called instead of rereading visited file contents. ben From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 19:54:21 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26234; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:54:03 -0500 Received: from dnsmx1pya.telcordia.com (dnsmx1pya.telcordia.com [128.96.20.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26147 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:53:11 -0500 Received: from castle.mk.telcordia.com (castle.mk.telcordia.com [128.96.133.172]) by dnsmx1pya.telcordia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15618 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:50:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mk.telcordia.com (fork [128.96.128.32]) by castle.mk.telcordia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00480 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:50:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111120050.TAA00480@castle.mk.telcordia.com> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:24:03 -0800. <000401c16b10$554f8c90$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> x-face: H2G63xNIQ1G~92=">,W';}5I'2EN+pvbeFK2U`LLazP;W3/AU'795C^6M1;wX3''q-~||]i =q\|l:fMk^4zF@^JHkw75M~[d)NKA},lfIOD=B'QWUuv_7Pu+j*']@]x]y'(Eyh}IAEhQDV@tJ?\E" <=..HSTdYCt'DevYza*qnf_0?9qelUgqeJkJA'7Zr<-NU Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:50:07 -0500 From: Dan Espen Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Andy Piper" writes: > Does anyone have a test case for the bug? Assuming your window manager shows icons: (require 'live-icon) then iconify a frame. The icon should be a miniature picture of the window. > andy > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org > > [mailto:xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Ben Wing > > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 4:10 PM > > To: Stephen J. Turnbull > > Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Andy Piper > > Subject: Re: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 > > > > > > > > > > "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing writes: > > > > > > Ben> i don't see extra specs. > > > > > > What I'm referring to is the fact that my understanding was that (1) > > > we clear out all the specs that match the tagset, then (2) we prepend > > > the new spec. > > > > there's some confusion here. your sentences above describe changing the > > specifiers ... > > > > That would imply that the :file spec from the fallback > > > should not be picked up and used in preference to the :data spec which > > > the user (via live-icon) has specified. But that seems to be what's > > > happening. > > > > ... but these describe the process of instantiation. these are > > different. > > "clear out all the specs that match the tagset" occurs only in > > the same locale; > > if i add a global spec that's restricted to `mswindows', it makes > > no sense to > > clear out buffer-local specs also restricted to `mswindows'. > > > > furthermore, fallback specs are never changed -- that's the > > nature of fallback. > > > > but there does appear to be a bug in the instantiation process, > > as i said. this > > may be related to andy's widget changes. in particular, andy > > added a bunch of > > caches of various sorts, and it's quite possible that a cache > > isn't getting > > properly cleared. > > > > andy, could you take a look? > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I'm just confused. Specifiers can be pretty confusing. > > > > > > -- > > > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences > http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 > JAPAN > > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > > ask what your business can "do for" free software. > -- Dan Espen 444 Hoes Lane Room RRC 1C-214 E-mail: dane@mk.telcordia.com Piscataway, NJ 08854 Phone: (732) 699-5570 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 20:05:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA27664; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:05:01 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA26886 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:59:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 54746 invoked by uid 50); 12 Nov 2001 00:59:32 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 54691 invoked by uid 0); 12 Nov 2001 00:59:31 -0000 Received: from dialupe196.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.112.196) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 2001 00:59:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3BEF1F1C.9E907534@666.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:00:12 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: Kyle Jones , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 21.1.4-mule: auto save doubles escape chars References: <9ro19k$eut@ice.wonderworks.com> <87ofmmljdp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , the idea was that escape-quoted should be used *everywhere*. this is the only way of guaranteeing that auto-save files actually restore exactly what was in the buffer -- or at the very least, we do NOT want to be guessing the encoding of an auto-save file. i fixed this properly in my mule ws. for 21.1 you might want to go ahead and apply kyle's patch since it's the easiest thing to do and will work most of the time even if not totally reliable. "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > Thanks for the patch, Kyle. > > >>>>> "Kyle" == Kyle Jones writes: > > Kyle> Looking at the XEmacs code, this seems to be intentional, > Kyle> though I don't know why. > > Ben? I don't see how this could possibly work right for a non-ISO > 2022 encoding that contains escape characters? > > Kyle> Here's a patch. Recommended for the 21.1 code line because > Kyle> this problem corrupts autosave files of mail folders that > Kyle> have ISO-2022-JP encoded messages in them. I haven't looked > Kyle> at the development code line so I don't know if the patch is > > The problem affects all XEmacsen since 21.1. I suspect Ben had his > reasons for using escape-quoted here, so he may have an alternative. > This works for me so I'm forwarding to xemacs-patches, pending comment > from Ben. > > Kyle> approrpiate there. I also changed the MULE #ifdef to > Kyle> FILE_CODING because maintaining the current coding system > Kyle> looks like the right thing to do in that context also. > > src/ChangeLog: > 2001/10/31 Kyle Jones > > * fileio.c (auto_save_1): Use current coding system, not > escape-quoted, for autosaves. > > *** src/fileio.c 2001/10/31 04:21:24 1.1 > --- src/fileio.c 2001/10/31 04:22:01 > *************** > *** 3825,3832 **** > return > /* !!#### need to deal with this 'escape-quoted everywhere */ > Fwrite_region_internal (Qnil, Qnil, a, Qnil, Qlambda, Qnil, > ! #ifdef MULE > ! Qescape_quoted > #else > Qnil > #endif > --- 3825,3832 ---- > return > /* !!#### need to deal with this 'escape-quoted everywhere */ > Fwrite_region_internal (Qnil, Qnil, a, Qnil, Qlambda, Qnil, > ! #ifdef FILE_CODING > ! current_buffer->buffer_file_coding_system > #else > Qnil > #endif > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 11 23:58:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA09072; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:57:07 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA08986 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:56:04 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16397g-0002Hz-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:55:04 +0900 To: Les Schaffer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: tracking gtk bugs down References: <15341.29261.724295.540012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 12 Nov 2001 13:55:03 +0900 In-Reply-To: <15341.29261.724295.540012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <87zo5s6120.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Les" == Les Schaffer writes: Les> Since i am just learning about xemacs/gtk internals, its Les> taking me a little time. So i am keeping a page where people Les> can read along as i debug: This should be linked from the home page. I'd like to give you commit access to the CVS repository, but that's a little difficult right now. Think about it, though. Alternatively, we could make an "XEmacs problem solving" wiki. Any wiki admins out there? I'll be thinking about this, but any suggestions for how we might organize this in the context of the current page are welcome, to xemacs-beta or directly to me as appropriate. Les> i'll keep the page updated till the two bugs get squished. You're on! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 00:03:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA09529; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:03:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA09248 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:59:14 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1639Ag-0002I4-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:10 +0900 To: John Paul Wallington Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: tracking gtk bugs down References: <15341.29261.724295.540012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87wv0y6tjp.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 12 Nov 2001 13:58:10 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87wv0y6tjp.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Message-ID: <87vggg60wt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "jpw" == John Paul Wallington writes: jpw> There is a third problem, namely that default faces for jpw> highlight and zmacs-region (perhaps others) don't get set jpw> correctly. There was a problem with the 'gtk display type tag not getting defined correctly, which led to not doing any gtk-specific face setup at all. Then when that got fixed, there was a mistake in the enabling code for many faces. That was fixed in the latest release 21.4.5 (I think, I haven't tested it). So please confirm in 21.4.5. I haven't had much time to synch these changes to 21.5.x, that's on my agenda. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 00:08:24 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA09813; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:08:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA09780 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:07:16 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1639IN-0002K4-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:06:07 +0900 To: Thomas Witzel Cc: Subject: Re: problems with compiling auctex References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 12 Nov 2001 14:06:07 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87r8r460jk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Witzel writes: Thomas> This might be slightly offtopic, but I just got Thomas> xemacs-21.4.5 and tried to compile auctex-11.06 as well as Thomas> auctex-10.0g with it. I always get this error: Thomas> Symbol's value as variable is void: popup-mode-menu Menu stuff is one thing that differs between Emacs and XEmacs. Now that Emacs 21.x has been released, we can start to think about more synching, but for the last year the knowledge that they were going to do everything incompatibly again has been a real deterrent to synching work. (No, they don't do any of it AFAICT.) Thomas> suggestions how to interpret above message ? I know lisp Thomas> and scheme but never wrote stuff for emacs/xemacs. If you have Emacs, use C-h v popup-mode-menu to find out where it's defined and how it's used. You probably can get a clean compile by simply adding (defvar popup-mode-menu nil) to tex-site.el in the AUC-TeX distribution. You may want to write to the AUC-TeX maintainers about it. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 00:34:16 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11751; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:34:03 -0500 Received: from cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.176]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11736; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:33:53 -0500 Received: from modem-456.munger.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.177.200] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 1639j6-0005fr-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:33:46 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1639nl-0007oq-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:38:33 +0000 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: tracking gtk bugs down References: <15341.29261.724295.540012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87wv0y6tjp.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> <87vggg60wt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.1.10 (i386-debian-linux) Organisation: [night shift] X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 12 Nov 2001 05:38:33 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87vggg60wt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "12 Nov 2001 13:58:10 +0900") Message-ID: <87r8r44kh2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > There was a problem with the 'gtk display type tag not getting > defined correctly, which led to not doing any gtk-specific face > setup at all. Then when that got fixed, there was a mistake in the > enabling code for many faces. That was fixed in the latest release > 21.4.5 (I think, I haven't tested it). > > So please confirm in 21.4.5. I'm a little bandwidth-impaired, but if no-one posts a confirmation by tonight I'll download 21.4.5 to confirm this. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 02:03:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA16292; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:01:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA16257; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:00:39 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163B4R-0002Q8-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:59:51 +0900 To: xemacs-news@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, ben@xemacs.org Reply-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: behavior of localized truncate-partial-width-windows References: <86y9le8zc0.wl@eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 12 Nov 2001 15:59:51 +0900 In-Reply-To: <86y9le8zc0.wl@eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: <87eln45va0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Changing this would require internal changes. Followups to xemacs-beta. >>>>> "Yoichi" == Yoichi NAKAYAMA writes: Yoichi> (make-local-variable 'truncate-partial-width-windows) Yoichi> (setq truncate-partial-width-windows nil) Yoichi> on buffer B. Then it is possible to control truncation in Yoichi> buffer B by truncate-lines, I thought. Yoichi> With GNU Emacs, it is possible regardless of the position Yoichi> of cursor. But on XEmacs, it shows different behavior. [I.e., in XEmacs t-p-w-w gets the value for the current buffer, so when the cursor is in B, truncate-lines rules, when it is not, t-p-w-w in the other buffer determines whether truncate-lines has an effect or not.] I think the GNU behavior (and the traditional behavior of truncate-lines, for that matter) is an abuse of the term "buffer-local", although the GNU behavior is desirable in these cases. The current buffer should determine the value of a buffer-local variable in Lisp, not the current focus of the redisplay engine. Ben? Should these variables be specifiers? Can we reasonably draw the distinction that local variables used to control redisplay should be specifiers, and buffer-locals should be used to control Lisp? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 08:20:52 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA05207; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:19:08 -0500 Received: from applg-1.depfa.com (applg-1.depfa.com [193.31.203.193]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA05124 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:18:20 -0500 Received: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by applg-1.depfa.com id fACDIE53622049 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:18:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from UNKNOWN(172.27.1.40), claiming to be "mail-int-1.depfa.com" via SMTP by applg-1.depfa.com, id smtpdAAAa0DoJi; Mon Nov 12 14:18:09 2001 Received: from wiemxscon1.depfa-bank.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail-int-1.depfa.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07344 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:18:09 +0100 (MET) Received: by WIEMXSCON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:24:58 +0100 Message-ID: <12DEBA019D34D511B9960008C7862B7E02B6182B@wiec1mxs1.depfa-bank.de> From: "Loni, Taghi, IT-TR-Extern" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: WorkShop Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:17:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hello, When I start the workshop from the xemacs in sun solaris, I get the following error and the debugging toolbar does not apear: Error during eserve msg evaluation: (error all elements of toolbar button glyph list must be glyphs.[(nil nil nil) eserve-toolbarBuild eserve-toolbar-Build-sense Build- rebuild the program(F3)] And then when I want to step into a function in another file the editor does not change automatically to the new stopped location. Can you please give me an answer or refer me to somebody or some plases, where I can find the answer? Best regards Taghi Loni Depfa Bank Wisbaden Germany From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 08:25:58 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA05621; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:24:32 -0500 Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (sheridan.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.227]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA05164 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:18:42 -0500 Received: from ssv2.dina.kvl.dk (ssv2.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.226]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA19771; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:18:40 +0100 Received: from abraham by ssv2.dina.kvl.dk with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163Gz2-0007lD-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:18:40 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: problems with compiling auctex References: <87r8r460jk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: The Church of Emacs X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ From: Per Abrahamsen Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:18:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r8r460jk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "12 Nov 2001 14:06:07 +0900") Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , There is no such think as 'popup-mode-menu' in any version of Emacs, it is part of the XEmacs support: ;;; Special support for XEmacs (when (featurep 'xemacs) (defadvice popup-mode-menu (before LaTeX-update activate) "Run `LaTeX-menu-update' before showing menu." (and (fboundp 'LaTeX-menu-update) (LaTeX-menu-update))) The code should obviously be rewritten to use :filter to be cleaner, but I don't know why Thomas Witzel gets these errors. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 08:51:51 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA07736; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:50:02 -0500 Received: from 209.240.253.23 ([209.240.253.23]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA07638; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:49:06 -0500 Received: by 209.240.253.23 (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8F04414A03; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:49:04 -0600 (CST) To: Adrian Aichner Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating Keywords: cvs References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> From: Michael Harnois Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:49:03 -0600 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "11 Nov 2001 17:10:04 +0100") Message-ID: <86wv0wumk0.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i386-unknown-freebsd5.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I don't have a problem with logging in, but ===[root] /usr/local/src # cvs -d:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs checkout -d xemacs-21.5 xemacs cvs server: cannot find module `xemacs' - ignored cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules -- Michael D. Harnois bilocational bivocational Pastor, Redeemer Lutheran Church Washburn, Iowa 1L, UST School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota "It's not what we don't know that hurts us, it's what we know for certain that just ain't so." -- Mark Twain From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 09:02:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08857; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:01:03 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08790; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:00:17 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13099; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA03755; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA11650; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:55:29 +0100 (MET) To: Michael Harnois Cc: Adrian Aichner , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> <86wv0wumk0.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 12 Nov 2001 15:00:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86wv0wumk0.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> Message-ID: Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Harnois writes: Michael> I don't have a problem with logging in, but Michael> ===[root] /usr/local/src # cvs -d:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs checkout -d xemacs-21.5 xemacs Michael> cvs server: cannot find module `xemacs' - ignored Michael> cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules Hi Michael, the CVS repository is still in transition at SunSITE.dk. I appreciate all testing and reporting though for anyone who wants to put up with this. Please change back your CVS/Root contents from :pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs to :pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/xemacscvs Something like this should do the trick (this example is for xemacsweb): cd c:\Hacking\SunSITE.dk\xemacsweb\ c:\cygwin\bin\find . -name Root -exec perl -p -i.orig -e "s|:pserver:cvs\@sunsite.dk:/pack/anoncvs|:pserver:cvs\@sunsite.dk:/pack/xemacscvs|;" {} ; Compilation started at Sun Nov 11 17:01:46 2001 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) Compilation finished at Sun Nov 11 17:01:59 Michael> -- Michael> Michael D. Harnois bilocational bivocational Michael> Pastor, Redeemer Lutheran Church Washburn, Iowa Michael> 1L, UST School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota Michael> "It's not what we don't know that hurts us, Michael> it's what we know for certain that just ain't so." -- Mark Twain -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 09:43:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11650; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:41:10 -0500 Received: from mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu (mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.202.9]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11617 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:40:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (twitzel@localhost) by mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu with ESMTP id fACEeZn2003160; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:40:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:40:35 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Witzel X-X-Sender: To: Per Abrahamsen cc: Subject: Re: problems with compiling auctex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I don't get an error in emacs. I get them all in xemacs. Seems like there is no such thing like popup-menu-mode in xemacs-21.4.5. Even if there was popup-mode-menu my xemacs-21.4.5. doesn't know defadvice either. I think I can live without that block, but now I ran into a problem with not having regexp-opt, can somebody help me with that ? Thomas On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Per Abrahamsen wrote: > There is no such think as 'popup-mode-menu' in any version of Emacs, > it is part of the XEmacs support: > > ;;; Special support for XEmacs > > (when (featurep 'xemacs) > > (defadvice popup-mode-menu (before LaTeX-update activate) > "Run `LaTeX-menu-update' before showing menu." > (and (fboundp 'LaTeX-menu-update) > (LaTeX-menu-update))) > > The code should obviously be rewritten to use :filter to be cleaner, > but I don't know why Thomas Witzel gets these errors. > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 09:51:24 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12378; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:50:01 -0500 Received: from fermat.mts.jhu.edu (fermat.mts.jhu.edu [128.220.17.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12339 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:49:45 -0500 Received: (from nevin@localhost) by fermat.mts.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fACEnil25996; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:49:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: fermat.mts.jhu.edu: nevin set sender to nevin@jhu.edu using -f To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: problems with compiling auctex References: X-Face: H~?ZI_L2!bGIrH^iC0e8t85[S`lwpP_/-sOvkGnN[\)[S";}xM3[Ib!ljz-80yK9SIf9sz6/DcY?yKUq1=-&XdrLjA^wK1 From: Nevin Kapur In-Reply-To: (Thomas Witzel's message of "Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:40:35 -0500 (EST)") Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:49:44 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Thomas Witzel writes: > I don't get an error in emacs. I get them all in xemacs. Seems > like there is no such thing like popup-menu-mode in xemacs-21.4.5. > Even if there was popup-mode-menu my xemacs-21.4.5. doesn't know > defadvice either. > I think I can live without that block, but now I ran into a problem > with not having regexp-opt, can somebody help me with that ? > > Thomas FWIW, I just compiled auctex-10.0g with XEmacs 21.4.5 without any problems. Did you install the xemacs-base package? regexp-opt is part of it. -- Nevin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 10:06:33 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13592; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:05:03 -0500 Received: from florida.arsdigita.de (dragon.arsdigita.de [212.84.246.66]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13520 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:04:19 -0500 Received: from hniksic by florida.arsdigita.de with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163Id1-00044B-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:04:03 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List , Jamie Zawinski Subject: Manual-snip-subchapter X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: &{dT~)Pu6V<0y?>3p$;@vh\`C7xB~A0T-J%Og)J,@-1%q6Q+, gs<-9M#&`I8cJp2b1{vPE|~+JE+gx;a7%BG{}nY^ehK1"q#rG O,Rn1A_Cy%t]V=Brv7h Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:04:03 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Copyleft) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Why exactly does Manual-snip-subchapter default to t? It took me some time to find that `M-x man string(3tcl) RET' showing the string(3) man page was in fact a feature! The docstring says: *Should man look in chapter 3 for ctime(3c)? This is relevant for Solaris and, perhaps, other systems which have `man -s 3' not find things in chapter 3c, or other such sub-chapters Obviously, `man -s 3' not finding things in chapter 3c is not the only problem -- having foo(3c) and foo(3tcl) guarantees that `man -s 3' is the wrong thing to do. What I really don't understand is how this feature is ever useful. Why would I ever want Emacs to turn my explicit foo(3frobozz) into foo(3)? I would like this to default to f. Am I missing something? From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 10:10:23 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13887; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:09:01 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13837; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:08:09 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28781; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA19996; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA11800; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:03:17 +0100 (MET) To: Thomas Witzel Cc: Per Abrahamsen , Subject: Re: problems with compiling auctex References: X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 12 Nov 2001 16:08:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 53 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Witzel writes: Thomas> I don't get an error in emacs. I get them all in Thomas> xemacs. Seems like there is no such thing like Thomas> popup-menu-mode in xemacs-21.4.5. Even if there was Thomas> popup-mode-menu my xemacs-21.4.5. doesn't know defadvice Thomas> either. I think I can live without that block, but now I Thomas> ran into a problem with not having regexp-opt, can Thomas> somebody help me with that ? Welcome to XEmacs Packages, Thomas :-) See http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html (locate-library "regexp-opt") "c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\\lisp\\xemacs-base\\regexp-opt.elc" Seems you don't even have xemacs-base installed. Please see step 7 of http://www.xemacs.org/Install/index.html if you build/install under UNIX or Linux. Best regards, Adrian Thomas> Thomas Thomas> On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Per Abrahamsen wrote: >> There is no such think as 'popup-mode-menu' in any version of Emacs, >> it is part of the XEmacs support: >> >> ;;; Special support for XEmacs >> >> (when (featurep 'xemacs) >> >> (defadvice popup-mode-menu (before LaTeX-update activate) >> "Run `LaTeX-menu-update' before showing menu." >> (and (fboundp 'LaTeX-menu-update) >> (LaTeX-menu-update))) >> >> The code should obviously be rewritten to use :filter to be cleaner, >> but I don't know why Thomas Witzel gets these errors. >> -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 10:27:26 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15249; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:26:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15237 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:25:54 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163IxP-0002oA-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:25:07 +0900 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: problems with compiling auctex References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 13 Nov 2001 00:25:06 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87zo5s2er1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: Nevin> Did you install the xemacs-base package? regexp-opt is Nevin> part of it. Missing packages is at least part of the problem. popup-mode-menu is a function, not a variable. So what very likely is happening is that Thomas doesn't have the advice library (also part of the xemacs-base package). That would mean that XEmacs is unaware that defadvice is a macro, which means that under some circumstances it might try to evaluate the (unquoted) function name argument to defadvice as a symbol, producing the "unbound variable" message. (That's just a guess.) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 10:31:26 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15514; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:30:01 -0500 Received: from badger.barsook.com (badger.barsook.com [208.47.211.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA15397 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:28:14 -0500 Received: (qmail 23425 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Nov 2001 15:28:11 -0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Should XEmacs use closest color match on tty From: Gleb Arshinov Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:28:11 -0800 Message-ID: <864ro0vwj8.fsf@badger.barsook.com> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef, i386-debian-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Try putting this in the beginning of your .emacs (defun my-canonize-color (color) (setq available-colors (mapcar 'car (read-color-completion-table))) (setq result color) (mapcar (lambda (x) (if (string-match (downcase x) (downcase color)) (setq result x))) available-colors) result) (defadvice set-face-foreground (before my-canonize-color-advice (face color &optional locale tag-set how-to-add)) (setq color (my-canonize-color color))) (ad-activate 'set-face-foreground) Now run XEmacs on tty. XEmacs will likely become much more colorful (for better or worse). So, question is, should XEmacs try to use a close to requested color (say "blue" for "blue4"), or should it default to no-color as it does now. Obviously, color matching heuristic could be more sophisticated. Gleb From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 11:56:36 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21437; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:56:09 -0500 Received: from zodiac.debian.net (as3-4-2.bi.s.bonet.se [217.215.34.150]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21398 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:55:21 -0500 Received: from micce by zodiac.debian.net with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163KMP-0005KV-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:55:01 +0100 From: Mikael Hedin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <15343.65253.403394.767091@zodiac.debian.net> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:55:01 +0100 To: 113598@bugs.debian.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: James LewisMoss Subject: Bug#113598: xemacs21-basesupport: vm-user-agent hickup In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id LAA21398 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , [Ref: http://bugs.debian.org/113598] Hi, I did some more investigation, and here is a solution that make s C-x m work: Add (require 'vm-startup) (require 'vm-version) (require 'vm-misc) (require 'vm-vars) (setq mail-user-agent 'vm-user-agent) to the init file. But this doesn't run my hooks, so I don't get spook in the letters:( But that's a minor issue for me ATM. Regards, Micce -- Mikael Hedin, MSc +46 (0)980 79176 Swedish Institute of Space Physics +46 (0)8 344979 (home) Box 812, S-981 28 KIRUNA, Sweden +46 (0)70 5891533 (mobile) [gpg key fingerprint = 387F A8DB DC2A 50E3 FE26 30C4 5793 29D3 C01B 2A22] Nu lubbar vi på fjället hela dan och trivs med det Jesse James '71 Cocaine Albania DES Mossad Janet Reno Semtex Delta Force genetic class struggle Area 51 David John Oates cypherpunk Lon Horiuchi Vickie Weaver AK-47 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 13:09:46 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA25787; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:09:18 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA25741 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:08:01 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fACI7wb00796; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:07:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolfe.bea.com (wolfe.beasys.com [172.17.10.130]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04786; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:07:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011112092541.0233e2f8@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:25:51 -0800 To: Gleb Arshinov , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Should XEmacs use closest color match on tty In-Reply-To: <864ro0vwj8.fsf@badger.barsook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 07:28 AM 11/12/2001 -0800, Gleb Arshinov wrote: >Now run XEmacs on tty. XEmacs will likely become much more colorful >(for better or worse). So, question is, should XEmacs try to use a >close to requested color (say "blue" for "blue4"), or should it >default to no-color as it does now. Obviously, color matching >heuristic could be more sophisticated. closest match would be great andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 13:24:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26762; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:24:03 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26747 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:23:51 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7542AC7; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:23:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D58C687; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:23:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id KAA11490; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:23:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111121823.KAA11490@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: package meta-faq/overview? Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "07 Nov 2001 21:55:06 +0100." <1yjab8t1.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:23:40 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: > Are you aware of > http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Develop/packages.html > , > http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Download/elispPackages.html > , > http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html > ? I wasn't aware of these. Thanks. > Perhaps we should harmonize the existing resources and complement them > with your suggested package meta-faq/overview. Yes. I'm thinking that a meta-faq/overview would be complementary to the above (except, perhaps, for the elispPackages). I'm thinking that the meta-faq/overview would have: * A short description of each sub-package (one sentence to a couple of paragraphs). Ideally, this should also give reasons why one would want to use a given sub-package. Should the maintainer be mentioned here, also? * A simple pointer to where to get the packages (perhaps, a pointer to an XEmacs web page?). * A pointer to the XEmacs package installation web page (http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html). * Should the ftp contrib directory be mentioned? It hasn't been updated in years. * A pointer to other archives (e.g., ohio-state or wherever it is these days). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 14:27:21 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA30919; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:27:05 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn310.s.netic.de [212.9.163.54]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA30847 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:26:01 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163Mgd-000153-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:24:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:24:03 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011112.202403.730559298.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I have some problems regarding the change of any argument for the italic fonts via customize-face (all). Regardless what I am doing and what I typed as additional "parameters" for the simple "Italic" font, the font remains unreadable tiny and ugly. Even if I switch off all arguments (any radiobutton in "off"- position, even "italic" switched to off) -- the font remains italic. Restart of X/Xemacs does not lead to any change. If I do same things to -- for example -- the "Modeline" font settings, the word "sample" changes according to the given arguments. This is a little big anoying, cause I am doing much TeX and everytime I use italic like "{\it foo bar}" AUC-TeX switches to its italic font and "foo bar" becomes something like a bit pattern -- unreadable. I called a friend of mine using the same XEmacs but with different font installation. The problem is the same for him. I am using XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) on Linux 2.4.13ac8 and XFree86 4.1.0. Any help *very* appreciated! Thank you very much in advance ! keep hacking on the right site of life ! :-) Meino PS: Please do NOT post this to the Xemacs-newsgroups, cause these newsgroups seem to be scanned by spammers searching for email addresses a lot. Thanl you! From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 14:33:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA31652; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:33:01 -0500 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.de (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA31615; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:32:26 -0500 Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 163Moi-0003am-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:32:24 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.2.5]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 163MoL-1XUe1YC; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:32:01 +0100 To: "Jared Brown" Cc: Subject: Re: XEmacs difficulties... References: <000801c16baa$eead1f20$60514ac7@c1294600a> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jared" == Jared Brown writes: Jared> Hi. My name is Jared Brown, and I'm an XEmacs user. Up Jared> until this week, XEmacs was working fine for me. I have Jared> Microsoft Windows XP, and I'm using XEmacs to program in Jared> Scheme. Anyway, for some reason now, when I run xemacs.exe Jared> (under XEmacs 21.4), nothing happens. It's so odd. There Jared> are no error messages, no warnings, nothing. I don't even Hi Jared, please don't send anything else but patches to xemacs-patches@xemacs.org. http://www.xemacs.org/Debug/index.html will give you some suggestions about Debugging XEmacs. What did you have changed since XEmacs was working fine when you first noticed it no longer worked? A good problem description is your best bet to get expert help. Does XEmacs not start up at all? Where/how did you get XEmacs? What is the exact version you have? Are you using a native Windows version of XEmacs or a cygwin build? You are not giving us any clues at all :-( Adrian Jared> think a new process begins. Is there a workaround or a Jared> patch? Have you seen or heard of this before? Thank you Jared> for your time, Jared -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 14:38:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA31948; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:38:03 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA31893; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:37:09 -0500 Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 163MtE-0006yB-08; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:37:04 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.2.5]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 163MtA-0SrrKyC; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:37:00 +0100 To: Meino Christian Cramer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <20011112.202403.730559298.mccramer@s.netic.de> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: Meino> Hi, Meino> I have some problems regarding the change of any argument for Meino> the italic fonts via customize-face (all). Meino> Regardless what I am doing and what I typed as additional Meino> "parameters" for the simple "Italic" font, the font remains Meino> unreadable tiny and ugly. Meino> Even if I switch off all arguments (any radiobutton in "off"- Meino> position, even "italic" switched to off) -- the font remains Meino> italic. Restart of X/Xemacs does not lead to any change. Meino> If I do same things to -- for example -- the "Modeline" font Meino> settings, the word "sample" changes according to the given Meino> arguments. Meino> This is a little big anoying, cause I am doing much TeX Meino> and everytime I use italic like "{\it foo bar}" AUC-TeX Meino> switches to its italic font and "foo bar" becomes Meino> something like a bit pattern -- unreadable. Meino> I called a friend of mine using the same XEmacs but with Meino> different font installation. The problem is the same for Meino> him. Meino> I am using XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) on Linux Meino> 2.4.13ac8 and XFree86 4.1.0. Meino> Any help *very* appreciated! Thank you very much in Meino> advance ! If possible, please install the latest net-utils package (1.23) and then use Help->Send Bug Report... or M-x report-emacs-bug to give us more details about your XEmacs installation. Meino> keep hacking on the right site of life ! :-) Meino Meino> PS: Please do NOT post this to the Xemacs-newsgroups, Meino> cause these newsgroups Meino> seem to be scanned by spammers searching for email Meino> addresses a lot. Thanl you! -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 15:06:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01307; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:06:02 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn289.s.netic.de [212.9.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01245 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:05:16 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163NIa-0001B6-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:03:16 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:03:16 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011112.210316.730558097.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: References: <20011112.202403.730559298.mccramer@s.netic.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: 12 Nov 2001 20:37:25 +0100 Message-ID: Hi Adrian ! Sorry for my previous "not formatted" posting! I was using the newest net-utils...but the problem is my mailer (mew) which does not ccoperate with "report-emacs-bug". I started "xemacs -vanilla", using "report-xemacs-bug then and pasted the result back into mew. Hopefully this will be ok.... Here is my mail: To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Fontproblems --text follows this line-- This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! What happened: I used "customize-face (all)" to set the simple "italic" font to someting more readable as the default. Regardless what I used as "arguments" to the customize dialog -- the font does not change at all. I restarted X and Xemacs -- no change. I tried the same changes to the "Modeline" font and it changed accordingly to the "arguments" I gave to that customize dialog. Even setting it to italic with a greater font size works. What I thought should have happened: Every change I could do to the "Modeline" font should work also with the "Italic" font. I do much TeX and everytime I use a for example {\it foo bar} in AUC-TeX "foo bar" is rendered unreadable, cause AUC-TeX displays this font using the "Italic" font. What I was doing: Starting XEmacs, loading a TeX-file, trying to read the italic font used by AUC-TeX (no success), tried to change especially the font size of that font by customize-face (all)...no change seems to impress "customize". Frustration... ;-) Same changes to the "Modeline" font works... I am using XFree86 4.1.0 on an Athlon 600MHz, 128MB Ram. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux solfire 2.4.13 #1 Wed Oct 24 14:45:08 CEST 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-database=no' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-scrollbars=lucid' '--with-x' '--with-dialogs=lucid' '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-widgets=lucid' '--with-canna=no' '--with-gcc' '--with-sound=none' '--with-png' '--with-jpeg' '--with-xpm' '--site-includes=/usr/include' '--site-libraries=/usr/lib' '--cflags=-O3 -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -mpentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -malign-functions=4 -funroll-loops -fexpensive-optimizations -malign-double -fschedule-insns2 -mwide-multiply' '--dynamic' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--with-debug-malloc=no' '--with-pop' '--x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include' '--x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib' '--prefix=/usr' XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. 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Making completion list... > If possible, please install the latest net-utils package (1.23) and > then use > Help->Send Bug Report... > or > M-x report-emacs-bug > to give us more details about your XEmacs installation. > -- > Adrian Aichner > mailto:adrian@xemacs.org > http://www.xemacs.org/ > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 16:15:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA05848; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:15:13 -0500 Received: from mta7-svc.virgin.net (mta7-svc.virgin.net [62.253.164.47]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA05716 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:13:34 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.69.243]) by mta7-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with ESMTP id <20011112211328.QXWQ18222.mta7-svc.virgin.net@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:13:28 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fACKUiY01211; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:30:44 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15344.12659.927472.754742@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:30:43 +0000 To: Hrvoje Niksic Cc: XEmacs Beta List , Jamie Zawinski Subject: Re: Manual-snip-subchapter In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.94 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence (candidate #1)" XEmacs Lucid Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Why exactly does Manual-snip-subchapter default to t? It took me some > time to find that `M-x man string(3tcl) RET' showing the string(3) man > page was in fact a feature! > > The docstring says: > > *Should man look in chapter 3 for ctime(3c)? > This is relevant for Solaris and, perhaps, other systems which have > `man -s 3' not find things in chapter 3c, or other such sub-chapters > > Obviously, `man -s 3' not finding things in chapter 3c is not the only > problem -- having foo(3c) and foo(3tcl) guarantees that `man -s 3' is > the wrong thing to do. What I really don't understand is how this > feature is ever useful. Why would I ever want Emacs to turn my > explicit foo(3frobozz) into foo(3)? > > I would like this to default to f. Am I missing something? My guess is that this is to allow for manpages with broken cross-references. E.g. the cross-references in the X11 manpages refer to section "3X11", but the pages may actually be in section "3x". FWIW, the RH6.2 "man" program seems to cope with this (i.e. it has it's own subchapter-snipping functionality). The "man" program on my previous (ancient Slackware) system didn't; clicking on the links in the X11 manpages didn't work if Manual-snip-subchapter was nil. -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 16:18:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06059; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:18:01 -0500 Received: from femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.83]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA05896 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:16:01 -0500 Received: from asgard.bp.aventail.com ([24.12.70.142]) by femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011112211600.EVVU24483.femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com@asgard.bp.aventail.com>; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:16:00 -0800 Received: from asgard.bp.aventail.com (wmperry@asgard.bp.aventail.com [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by asgard.bp.aventail.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fACLGBnc013483; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:16:11 -0500 Received: (from wmperry@localhost) by asgard.bp.aventail.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) id fACLGBln013479; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:16:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: asgard.bp.aventail.com: wmperry set sender to wmperry@gnu.org using -f To: Andy Piper Cc: Gleb Arshinov , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Should XEmacs use closest color match on tty References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011112092541.0233e2f8@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Face: O~Rn;(l][/-o1sALg4A@xpE:9-"'IR[%;,,!m7 (Andy Piper's message of "Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:25:51 -0800") Message-ID: <86herzofl1.fsf@asgard.bp.aventail.com> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper writes: > At 07:28 AM 11/12/2001 -0800, Gleb Arshinov wrote: > >Now run XEmacs on tty. XEmacs will likely become much more colorful >>(for better or worse). So, question is, should XEmacs try to use a >>close to requested color (say "blue" for "blue4"), or should it >>default to no-color as it does now. Obviously, color matching >>heuristic could be more sophisticated. > > closest match would be great Code to do this in emacs/w3 is already sitting around in font.el. Check out font-tty-find-closest-color -bp -- Ceterum censeo vi esse delendam From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 16:19:33 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06309; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:19:32 -0500 Received: from capital.delphioutpost.com ([65.202.186.194]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA06017 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:17:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 2200 invoked by uid 1002); 12 Nov 2001 21:17:19 -0000 From: Jeff Mincy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15344.15455.406294.835043@delphioutpost.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:17:19 -0500 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: Meino Christian Cramer , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change In-Reply-To: References: <20011112.202403.730559298.mccramer@s.netic.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Date: 12 Nov 2001 20:37:25 +0100 >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: Meino> Hi, Meino> I have some problems regarding the change of any argument for Meino> the italic fonts via customize-face (all). Meino> Any help *very* appreciated! Thank you very much in Meino> advance ! If possible, please install the latest net-utils package (1.23) and then use Help->Send Bug Report... or M-x report-emacs-bug to give us more details about your XEmacs installation. It is important to give xemacs a good font. A good font is complete with bold and italic versions. For example, I use adobe courier (and in this case I have to tell it to try-oblique-before-italic-fonts) bash% xlsfonts -fn '-adobe-courier-*-*-*-*-*-160-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*' -adobe-courier-bold-o-normal--22-160-100-100-m-0-iso8859-1 -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--22-160-100-100-m-0-iso8859-1 -adobe-courier-medium-o-normal--22-160-100-100-m-0-iso8859-1 -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--22-160-100-100-m-0-iso8859-1 Most likely you are using some partial font like misc-fixed that does not come with an italic font. You can startup xemacs with -font. -jeff From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 16:38:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07729; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:38:03 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07698; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:37:36 -0500 Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 163Olq-00036A-06; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:37:34 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.2.5]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 163Olh-24kjmSC; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:37:25 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Cc: "Jared Brown" Subject: ["Jared Brown" ] Re: XEmacs difficulties... X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Lines: 97 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Hi Guys, do you have any ideas about this? Andy, was the latest native XEmacs distributed by netinstaller built with the portable dumper option? Looks like bad old ... File: xemacs-faq.info, Node: Q6.4.1, Next: Q6.4.2, Prev: Q6.3.4, Up: MS Windows 6.3: Troubleshooting ==================== Q6.4.1 XEmacs won't start on Windows. ------------------------------------- XEmacs relies on a process called "dumping" to generate a working executable. Under MS-Windows this process effectively fixes the memory addresses of information in the executable. When XEmacs starts up it tries to reserve these memory addresses so that the dumping process can be reversed - putting the information back at the correct addresses. Unfortunately some .DLLs (for instance the soundblaster driver) occupy memory addresses that can conflict with those needed by the dumped XEmacs executable. In this instance XEmacs will fail to start without any explanation. Note that this is extremely machine specific. 21.1.10 includes a fix for this that makes more intelligent guesses about which memory addresses will be free, and this should cure the problem for most people. 21.4 implements "portable dumping", which eliminates the problem altogether. We recommend you use the 21.4 binaries, but you can use the 21.1 binaries if you are very paranoid about stability. *Note Q6.0.3::. Adrian --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline X-From-Line: orbs@home.com Mon Nov 12 15:17:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu ([129.105.16.51]) by mailin05.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 163OSi-1he4yOC; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:17:48 +0100 Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA07014 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:17:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from c1294600a (dhcp081096.res-hall.nwu.edu [199.74.81.96]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma006843; Mon, 12 Nov 01 15:17:19 -0600 Message-ID: <000f01c16bbf$67d40bc0$60514ac7@c1294600a> From: "Jared Brown" To: "Adrian Aichner" References: <000801c16baa$eead1f20$60514ac7@c1294600a> Subject: Re: XEmacs difficulties... Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:17:15 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Content-Length: 1313 Lines: 31 Xref: D5DC120J xemacs:2299 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Adrian, Hi. I'm kind of new at this, so sorry if I sent my request to the wrong address. I have the Naitive XEmacs-21.4.5 running on Windows XP Professional. I got XEmacs from www.xemacs.org. There was a setup that I got on the win32 binary download page: http://www.xemacs.org/Download/win32/. When I click the icon, or type xemacs in a command prompt, nothing happens. In the command prompt, I get another prompt (as if I've hit 'enter' without typing the command 'xemacs'), and when I click the icon, nothing happens what so ever. I don't know what specifically I've changed since it last worked. A bunch of software has been added and removed from my computer. To try and fix the proplem, I completely uninstalled and then re-installed xemacs, and that failed. I installed a different version of emacs (GNU maybe) and that worked, but its 'run-scheme' didn't function in that version, and I perfer XEmacs anyway. I tried installing XEmacs 21.1.9 and that failed too. I've tried running windows in Safe Mode (in case some device driver was causing a conflict) and that didn't work either. I've looked at the troubleshooting section of the website, and there is no relevant information there either. I'm completely out of ideas. If you have any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! Jared --=-=-= -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 18:22:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13026; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:21:11 -0500 Received: from spider.crnet.com (spider.crnet.com [208.242.241.92]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13006 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:20:58 -0500 Received: from mondas (dante.limolink.com [207.191.205.200]) by spider.crnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15464; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:22:20 -0600 Message-ID: <01ce01c16bd0$e8a3c0e0$6501a8c0@mondas> From: "James N. Potts" To: "XEmacs Beta List" , "Adrian Aichner" References: Subject: Re: ["Jared Brown" ] Re: XEmacs difficulties... Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:22:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I find the Download webpage (www.xemacs.org/Download/win32/) to be somewhat misleading. It says: You may install either a cygwin or native windows version from one of our world-wide mirrors closest to you, by just clicking on setup.exe. Choose "Install from the Internet", unless you want to "Download from the Internet" to a local directory, and then run setup.exe again to "Install from Local Directory". Stable versions 21.1.14 (native) and 21.1.13 (cygwin) are also available; click on setup.exe and select a previous version. It's this last paragraph that trips me up. Calling the native win32 build of 21.1.14 stable is mighty misleading. From an XEmacs point of view, 21.1.14 might be more "stable" than 21.4, but from a Win32 viewpoint, 21.4 is vastly better (at least in my experience). I'm wondering if he chose to install the "stable" 21.1.14 rather than the "cutting edge" 21.4.5. -Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Aichner" To: "XEmacs Beta List" Cc: "Jared Brown" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: ["Jared Brown" ] Re: XEmacs difficulties... > > Hi Guys, do you have any ideas about this? > > Andy, was the latest native XEmacs distributed by netinstaller built > with the portable dumper option? > > Looks like bad old ... > > File: xemacs-faq.info, Node: Q6.4.1, Next: Q6.4.2, Prev: Q6.3.4, Up: MS Windows > > 6.3: Troubleshooting > ==================== > > Q6.4.1 XEmacs won't start on Windows. > ------------------------------------- > > XEmacs relies on a process called "dumping" to generate a working > executable. Under MS-Windows this process effectively fixes the memory > addresses of information in the executable. When XEmacs starts up it > tries to reserve these memory addresses so that the dumping process can > be reversed - putting the information back at the correct addresses. > Unfortunately some .DLLs (for instance the soundblaster driver) occupy > memory addresses that can conflict with those needed by the dumped > XEmacs executable. In this instance XEmacs will fail to start without > any explanation. Note that this is extremely machine specific. > > 21.1.10 includes a fix for this that makes more intelligent guesses > about which memory addresses will be free, and this should cure the > problem for most people. 21.4 implements "portable dumping", which > eliminates the problem altogether. We recommend you use the 21.4 > binaries, but you can use the 21.1 binaries if you are very paranoid > about stability. *Note Q6.0.3::. > > Adrian > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > -- > Adrian Aichner > mailto:adrian@xemacs.org > http://www.xemacs.org/ > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 18:25:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13331; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:25:02 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13089 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:21:59 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fACNLrb18149; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolfe.bea.com (wolfe.beasys.com [172.17.10.130]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26859; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:21:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011112152300.023fd660@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:23:13 -0800 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner), XEmacs Beta List From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: ["Jared Brown" ] Re: XEmacs difficulties... Cc: "Jared Brown" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 10:37 PM 11/12/2001 +0100, Adrian Aichner wrote: >Andy, was the latest native XEmacs distributed by netinstaller built >with the portable dumper option? Yes. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 19:29:24 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA16982; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:29:08 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA16934 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:28:20 -0500 Received: from san-jose.beasys.com (san-jose.beasys.com [206.189.193.20]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAD0Rub20812; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:27:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolfe.bea.com (wolfe.beasys.com [172.17.10.130]) by san-jose.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14469; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:27:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011112160713.0240b350@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:07:56 -0800 To: "James N. Potts" , "XEmacs Beta List" , "Adrian Aichner" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: ["Jared Brown" ] Re: XEmacs difficulties... In-Reply-To: <01ce01c16bd0$e8a3c0e0$6501a8c0@mondas> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 05:22 PM 11/12/2001 -0600, James N. Potts wrote: > Stable versions 21.1.14 (native) and 21.1.13 (cygwin) are > also available; click on setup.exe and select a previous > version. > >It's this last paragraph that trips me up. Calling the native win32 build >of 21.1.14 stable is mighty misleading. From an XEmacs point of view, >21.1.14 might be more "stable" than 21.4, but from a Win32 viewpoint, 21.4 >is vastly better (at least in my experience). > >I'm wondering if he chose to install the "stable" 21.1.14 rather than the >"cutting edge" 21.4.5. Actually this is no longer true. Maintaining the ability to install 21.1 in the netinstaller requires hand-tweaking which I don't have time for. So if you use the netinstaller you can only install 21.4 now. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 19:37:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA17596; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:37:02 -0500 Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (obelix.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA17552 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:36:16 -0500 Received: from confusibombus (pop-zh-18-2-dialup-138.freesurf.ch [194.230.220.138]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id fAD0aDj11806; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:36:13 +0100 Received: from alex by confusibombus with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163RaH-0000B6-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:37:49 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org Subject: emacs-bidi summary for XEmacs people From: Alex Schroeder X-Face: ^BC$`[IcggstLPyen&dqF+b2'zyK#r.mU*'Nms}@&4zw%SJ#5!/7SMVjBS7'lb;QK)|IPU5U'o1'522W4TyzB3Ab*IBo^iw]l4|kUbdZuUDO6=Um-.4IzhNiV'B"@K#jy_(wW|Zbk[34flKY^|PrQ?$u2\fKg^]AY>wOX#H32i Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:37:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87zo5rpkte.fsf@gnu.org> Lines: 85 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi XEmacs people, As to bidi, I have code now which more or less does the bidi algorithm without explicit direction codes. It is therefore not useful when transforming logical to visual order. It is, however, useful when transforming visual to logical. And since I think that adding the explicit direction code treatment ought to be very easy, I may still add it in the days to come. All of this plus some testing of the functions is in bidi.el. The bidi code I use needs tables that classify characters according to the bidi types used in the Unicode Tech Report, UAX#9. These tables use the bidi type classification from unicode.org, and it uses this info for all the 8859 charsets. This is in bidi-table.el -- about 500k. I also have a test table which only sets bidi types for ASCII characters and which uses the bidi type R (like Hebrew and Arabic) for capital letters. This is great when tinkering with the code and when writing test cases in plain ASCII. This is in bidi-table-test.el -- about 5k. The classification of characters in Emacs relies on Category Tables. In Emacs, these categories can be modified on the Lisp level. Since I didn't want to reserve any categories, I'm getting some unused categories when bidi.el is loaded. This seems not to work in XEmacs. Here's the main setup: (defun bidi-setup-categories () "Create new categories for bidi according to UAX#9. This sets all the categories defined in `bidi-categories'." (let ((table (standard-category-table))) (mapc (lambda (var) (let ((cat (get-unused-category table)) (doc (get var 'variable-documentation))) (when (symbol-value var) (error "%S is already set" var)) (unless cat (error "No more unused categories available")) (set var cat) (define-category cat doc table))) bidi-categories))) This uses the variables in the following lists: (defvar bidi-categories '(bidi-category-l bidi-category-lre bidi-category-lro bidi-category-r bidi-category-al bidi-category-rle bidi-category-rlo bidi-category-pdf bidi-category-en bidi-category-es bidi-category-et bidi-category-an bidi-category-cs bidi-category-nsm bidi-category-bn bidi-category-b bidi-category-s bidi-category-ws bidi-category-on) "List of categories variables used by bidi algorithms. Each category variable holds a character. This character identifies the category.") After running bidi-setup-categories, the bidi-category-* variables all hold a character, each used for a different category. The tables then use the categories thus defined. One way to do this in XEmacs would be to add the categories at the C level (the lispref didn't have much to say on categories), or to create a new category table where our categories will not clash with existing categories. I don't know how much memory a new category table would actually use, perhaps that would seem the best alternative. Anyway, if you are interested in the code, send me mail. Alex. -- http://www.emacswiki.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 20:42:57 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA21243; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:42:16 -0500 Received: from imailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (imailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.181]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA21215 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:41:17 -0500 Received: from modem-506.rickt.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.185.250] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by imailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 163SZf-0004lr-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:41:16 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163SeT-000477-00 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:46:13 +0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: missing default faces in 21.4.5 --with-gtk From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.4.5 (i686-pc-linux) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 13 Nov 2001 01:46:13 +0000 Message-ID: <87r8r31lzu.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 43 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. I changed the To: from @cvs.xemacs.org to @xemacs.org. In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 5) "Civil Service" [Lucid] (i686-pc-linux) of Tue Nov 13 2001 on bundalo configured using `configure --with-gtk --prefix=/usr/local --with-sound=esd --mail-locking=flock --with-file-coding --debug' Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: I built 21.4.5 with --with-gtk. Faces such as zmacs-region and highlight aren't set to a default value. Default values aren't set in XEmacs 21.5.3 beta either. I have an ancient gtk-xemacs from Bill Perry's site that does set zmacs-region and highlight faces (it identifies itself as XEmacs 21.1 (patch 12) "GTK" [Lucid] (i686-pc-linux) of Mon Nov 12 2001 on bundalo). Recent keystrokes: button1 button1up M-x r e p o r t SPC e m SPC BS BS BS BS BS x BS BS x SPC SPC BS e SPC SPC RET Recent messages (most recent first): Fontifying *mail to xemacs-beta@cvs.xemacs.org*... Loading efs-cu...done Loading efs-cu... Loading mail-extr...done Loading mail-extr... Loading emacsbug...done Loading emacsbug... Paren mode is blink-paren PGP version set to GPG. Loading mc-setversion...done -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 21:06:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA22459; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:06:01 -0500 Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA22449 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:05:53 -0500 Received: from modem-305.clefable.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.85.49] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 163SxU-0005hM-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:05:52 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163T2I-00048p-00 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:10:50 +0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: default faces lose on Xemacs 21.4.5 --with-gtk From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.4.5 (i686-pc-linux) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 13 Nov 2001 02:10:50 +0000 Message-ID: <87vggf8lp1.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 51 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 5) "Civil Service" [Lucid] (i686-pc-linux) of Tue Nov 13 2001 on bundalo configured using `configure --with-gtk --prefix=/usr/local --with-sound=esd --mail-locking=flock --with-file-coding --debug' Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: The default faces for zmacs-region and highlight aren't set under XEmacs 21.4.5 when built on my system. The same is true for XEmacs 21.5.3beta, but an early gtk-xemacs (which reports itself as XEmacs 21.1 (patch 12) "GTK" [Lucid] (i686-pc-linux) of Mon Nov 12 2001 on bundalo) does set zmacs-region and highlight. Recent keystrokes: button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button5 button5up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up button4 button4up q button1 button1up button1 button1up C-x m C-x k RET M-x b u g SPC SPC BS BS BS r e SPC SPC BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS p SPC SPC o SPC SPC r t SPC e SPC SPC RET Recent messages (most recent first): Fontifying *mail to xemacs-beta@cvs.xemacs.org*... Loading emacsbug...done Loading emacsbug... Making completion list... Making completion list... Making completion list... Making completion list... Fontifying *mail*... done. Oort Gnus v0.03 Fontifying *mail*... -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 21:31:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA23578; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:31:02 -0500 Received: from badger.barsook.com (badger.barsook.com [208.47.211.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA23524 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:30:10 -0500 Received: (qmail 31167 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Nov 2001 02:10:06 -0000 To: wmperry@gnu.org (William M. Perry) Cc: Andy Piper , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Should XEmacs use closest color match on tty References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011112092541.0233e2f8@san-francisco.beasys.com> <86herzofl1.fsf@asgard.bp.aventail.com> From: Gleb Arshinov Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:10:06 -0800 In-Reply-To: <86herzofl1.fsf@asgard.bp.aventail.com> (wmperry@gnu.org's message of "Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:16:10 -0500") Message-ID: <86adxrqv41.fsf@badger.barsook.com> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef, i386-debian-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "William" == William M Perry writes: Andy> closest match would be great BP> Code to do this in emacs/w3 is already sitting around in BP> font.el. Check out font-tty-find-closest-color Thanks for the pointer. I'll see if I can produce a patch to hook in a heuristic to set-face-* functions. Should be somewhat user-configurable. It can't be perfect, but I've been playing with different heuristics locally and it seems a great improvement over default behavior. Gleb From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 21:36:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA23770; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:36:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA23741 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:35:35 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163TOr-0003WB-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:34:09 +0900 To: Meino Christian Cramer Cc: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <20011112.202403.730559298.mccramer@s.netic.de> <20011112.210316.730558097.mccramer@s.netic.de> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 13 Nov 2001 11:34:09 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011112.210316.730558097.mccramer@s.netic.de> Message-ID: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: Meino> I used "customize-face (all)" to set the simple "italic" Meino> font to someting more readable as the default. Regardless Meino> what I used as "arguments" to the customize dialog -- the Meino> font does not change at all. Known bug in Customize, fix not yet known. Use M-: (set-face-font ...) RET as a workaround for now. Sorry. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 21:47:11 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24433; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:46:10 -0500 Received: from ice.wonderworks.com ([192.203.206.9]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24362; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:45:01 -0500 Received: by ice.wonderworks.com id QQloxe14990; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:30:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15344.34269.806248.883487@ice.wonderworks.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:30:53 -0800 From: Kyle Jones To: Ben Wing , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 21.1.4-mule: auto save doubles escape chars In-Reply-To: <3BEF1F1C.9E907534@666.com> References: <9ro19k$eut@ice.wonderworks.com> <87ofmmljdp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BEF1F1C.9E907534@666.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.97 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-Face: /cA45WHG7jWq>(O3&Z57Y<"WsX5ddc,4c#w0F*zrV#=M 0@~@,s;b,aMtR5Sqs"+nU.z^CSFQ9t`z2>W,S,]:[+2^ Nbf6v4g>!&,7R4Ot4Wg{&tm=WX7P["9%a)_da48-^tGy ,qz]Z,Zz\{E.,]'EO+F)@$KtF&V Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Ben Wing writes: > the idea was that escape-quoted should be used *everywhere*. > this is the only way of guaranteeing that auto-save files > actually restore exactly what was in the buffer -- or at the > very least, we do NOT want to be guessing the encoding of an > auto-save file. I'm not convinced that this is the best approach. MULE is willing to guess the coding system when you first visit a file. I don't see that situation at auto-save recovery time is any different. If you can accurately guess the coding sstem at find-file time, you should be able to guess it at file recovery time. Also, by using the current buffer's coding system for auto-saves, the auto-save file hits the disk in a format that can be used by programs other than XEmacs. The user can do "diff #foo# foo" and see the real differences without the extra escape-quoted induced differences. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 22:06:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA25749; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:06:06 -0500 Received: from melancholia.danann.net (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA25663; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:05:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by melancholia.danann.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B9F2A85E; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:43:26 +1100 (EST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03FD5820DE; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:42:53 +1100 (EST) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: problems with compiling auctex References: <87zo5s2er1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <87zo5s2er1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "13 Nov 2001 00:25:06 +0900") From: Daniel Pittman Organization: Not today, thank you, Mother. Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:42:53 +1100 Message-ID: <87668flcvm.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 13 Nov 2001, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur writes: > > Nevin> Did you install the xemacs-base package? regexp-opt is > Nevin> part of it. > > Missing packages is at least part of the problem. Er, this may well be a stupid suggestion, but have you considered shipping an irregularly updated 'xemacs-base' package[1] in the 'etc' directory of the binary? That way the startup procedure could verify the existence of the package on disk and, if it's not there, ask the user if they wanted to install it? Something subtle like: "you don't seem to have the xemacs-base package installed. This will cause XEmacs to fail horribly. Should I install a version of this package?" Then, suggest to the user that they probable want to go and upgrade their packages from the net -- after they already have a completely working XEmacs? This would retain the advantage of having the xemacs-base package updated when bugs were fixed, but would still ship a fully working[2] XEmacs to users, even if they didn't grab the SUMO. Daniel Footnotes: [1] Possibly also EFS and whatever else is needed for net update of packages to work. [2] Where "working" is defined as "fully bootstrapped" -- Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong. -- David Fasold From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 12 23:37:43 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA30613; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:37:11 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA30597 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:36:54 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163VIk-0003ax-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:35:58 +0900 To: Daniel Pittman Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: problems with compiling auctex References: <87zo5s2er1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87668flcvm.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 13 Nov 2001 13:35:58 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87668flcvm.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> Message-ID: <87zo5rxp75.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Pittman writes: Daniel> Er, this may well be a stupid suggestion, but have you Daniel> considered shipping an irregularly updated 'xemacs-base' Daniel> package[1] in the 'etc' directory of the binary? etc is the wrong place for it. There's no reason why we can't put it where it belongs. But basically this is a variant on the sumo-in-source proposal. It's just that no one has bothered to take the ball and run with it. (More on the playbook in the near future.) http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/Public-21.2/projects/sumo.html -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 00:07:50 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA32337; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:07:41 -0500 Received: from femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.34]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA32192; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:05:31 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011113050523.UTBR13029.femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:05:23 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "XEmacs Patches" Cc: "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: [PATCH 21.4] Fix custom saves Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:05:29 -0800 Message-ID: <000901c16c00$d09351c0$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C16BBD.C27011C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C16BBD.C27011C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This fixes the custom save lossage for me. 2001-11-12 Andy Piper * cus-edit.el (custom-save-face-internal): make sure we save non-themed faces. (custom-save-variables): ditto variables. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C16BBD.C27011C0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="cus.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="cus.patch" Index: lisp/cus-edit.el=0A= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A= RCS file: /usr/CVSroot/XEmacs/xemacs/lisp/cus-edit.el,v=0A= retrieving revision 1.11.2.3=0A= diff -u -r1.11.2.3 cus-edit.el=0A= --- lisp/cus-edit.el 23 Oct 2001 08:35:20 -0000 1.11.2.3=0A= +++ lisp/cus-edit.el 13 Nov 2001 04:58:10 -0000=0A= @@ -3391,7 +3391,7 @@=0A= (princ "\n"))=0A= (princ "(custom-set-variables")=0A= (mapatoms (lambda (symbol)=0A= - (let ((spec (car-safe (get symbol 'theme-value)))=0A= + (let ((spec (car-safe (get symbol 'theme-value)))=0A= (requests (get symbol 'custom-requests))=0A= (now (not (or (get symbol 'standard-value)=0A= (and (not (boundp symbol))=0A= @@ -3399,7 +3399,9 @@=0A= 'rogue))))))=0A= (comment (get symbol 'saved-variable-comment)))=0A= (when (or (and spec (eq (car spec) 'user)=0A= - (eq (second spec) 'set)) comment)=0A= + (eq (second spec) 'set)) comment=0A= + ;; support non-themed vars=0A= + (and (null spec) (get symbol 'saved-value)))=0A= (princ "\n '(")=0A= (prin1 symbol)=0A= (princ " ")=0A= @@ -3430,9 +3432,12 @@=0A= (not (eq (get symbol 'force-face) 'rogue)))))))=0A= (when (or (and (not (memq symbol custom-save-face-ignoring))=0A= ;; Don't print default face here.=0A= - theme-spec=0A= - (eq (car theme-spec) 'user)=0A= - (eq (second theme-spec) 'set)) comment)=0A= + (or (and theme-spec=0A= + (eq (car theme-spec) 'user)=0A= + (eq (second theme-spec) 'set))=0A= + ;; cope with non-themed faces=0A= + (and (null theme-spec)=0A= + (get symbol 'saved-face)))) comment)=0A= (princ "\n '(")=0A= (prin1 symbol)=0A= (princ " ")=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C16BBD.C27011C0-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 03:19:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA11906; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:18:15 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA11894 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:17:55 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163YkW-0003ib-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:16:52 +0900 To: Kyle Jones Cc: Ben Wing , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 21.1.4-mule: auto save doubles escape chars References: <9ro19k$eut@ice.wonderworks.com> <87ofmmljdp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BEF1F1C.9E907534@666.com> <15344.34269.806248.883487@ice.wonderworks.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 13 Nov 2001 17:16:52 +0900 In-Reply-To: <15344.34269.806248.883487@ice.wonderworks.com> Message-ID: <87r8r3xeyz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Kyle" == Kyle Jones writes: Kyle> Ben Wing writes: >> the idea was that escape-quoted should be used *everywhere*. >> this is the only way of guaranteeing that auto-save files >> actually restore exactly what was in the buffer -- or at the But you can't do what the user wants anyway, since typically the buffer changes between the autosave and the crash. So it's a question of how much work does the user have to do to recover the exact state he was in when he lost the buffer. External utilities as Kyle mentions below can be very helpful. >>> very least, we do NOT want to be guessing the encoding of an >>> auto-save file. Kyle> I'm not convinced that this is the best approach. MULE is Kyle> willing to guess the coding system when you first visit a Kyle> file. I don't see that situation at auto-save recovery time Kyle> is any different. But the user may not have accepted the guess the first time. What do you do then? IIRC recover-file does not take a coding system argument. We need to do something about that. Kyle> If you can accurately guess the coding sstem at find-file Kyle> time, you should be able to guess it at file recovery time. We can't manage such accuracy. I use C-u C-x C-f a fair amount. However, you can take a hint from the coding-system that the user actually used to visit the file. (This is the most common case; I don't think I've ever invoked recover-file anywhere but from the VM toolbar). It's nearly certain that that corresponds to the coding system in force when the buffer was lost, and therefore auto-saving in the current coding system should do the right thing nearly 100% of the time. Kyle> Also, by using the current buffer's Kyle> coding system for auto-saves, the auto-save file hits the Kyle> disk in a format that can be used by programs other than Kyle> XEmacs. The user can do "diff #foo# foo" and see the real Kyle> differences without the extra escape-quoted induced Kyle> differences. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 03:38:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA12863; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:38:03 -0500 Received: from florida.arsdigita.de (dragon.arsdigita.de [212.84.246.66]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA12826 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:37:25 -0500 Received: from hniksic by florida.arsdigita.de with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163Z4N-0006fu-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:37:23 +0100 To: Glynn Clements Cc: XEmacs Beta List , Jamie Zawinski Subject: Re: Manual-snip-subchapter References: <15344.12659.927472.754742@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: &{dT~)Pu6V<0y?>3p$;@vh\`C7xB~A0T-J%Og)J,@-1%q6Q+, gs<-9M#&`I8cJp2b1{vPE|~+JE+gx;a7%BG{}nY^ehK1"q#rG O,Rn1A_Cy%t]V=Brv7h Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:37:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <15344.12659.927472.754742@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> (Glynn Clements's message of "Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:30:43 +0000") Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Copyleft) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Glynn Clements writes: > My guess is that this is to allow for manpages with broken > cross-references. > > E.g. the cross-references in the X11 manpages refer to section "3X11", > but the pages may actually be in section "3x". Perhaps we should make Manual-snip-chapter default to t, but ignore it for interactive user input. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 07:06:33 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA23708; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:06:13 -0500 Received: from melancholia.danann.net (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA23644; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:05:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by melancholia.danann.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51092A826; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:05:04 +1100 (EST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6080F820DE; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:05:01 +1100 (EST) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: problems with compiling auctex References: <87zo5s2er1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87668flcvm.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> <87zo5rxp75.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <87zo5rxp75.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "13 Nov 2001 13:35:58 +0900") From: Daniel Pittman Organization: Not today, thank you, Mother. Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:05:01 +1100 Message-ID: <87y9laop02.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 13 Nov 2001, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Pittman writes: > > Daniel> Er, this may well be a stupid suggestion, but have you > Daniel> considered shipping an irregularly updated 'xemacs-base' > Daniel> package[1] in the 'etc' directory of the binary? > > etc is the wrong place for it. Well, sure. I went and thought about places that this may fit, and that sprang to mind. :) > There's no reason why we can't put it where it belongs. But basically > this is a variant on the sumo-in-source proposal. So it is. I presumed that it was either completely stupid or old, so opted for the most likely on my account. > It's just that no one has bothered to take the ball and run with it. > (More on the playbook in the near future.) > > http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/Public-21.2/projects/sumo.html It strikes me that this is probably more complex than it needs to be. The current SUMO distribution[1] and a smaller package that was enough to bootstrap, whatever that may be, would be more than enough. The pre-built bits and pieces seem overkill to me, but that's just my opinion. If it's scripted, it's probably not that much work. :) Daniel Footnotes: [1] XEmacs "classic", basically, with everything. -- Reality is whatever doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. -- Philip K Dick From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 09:47:58 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01035; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:45:11 -0500 Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00936 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:44:10 -0500 Received: (qmail 7676 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2001 14:44:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO brick.watson.ibm.com) ([198.81.209.16]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Nov 2001 14:44:07 -0000 Subject: 21.4.5 Can't "make-frame-on-display" From: Michal Ostrowski To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.0 (Preview Release) Date: 13 Nov 2001 09:44:06 -0500 Message-Id: <1005662647.1388.0.camel@brick.watson.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , After upgrading to 21.4.5 (from 21.4.4) I can no longer do a "make-frame-on-display", where the target display is a VNC display. 21.4.4 works just fine, whereas 21.4.5 spits out a slew of messages like the ones below and then hangs. Suggestions? Warning: XtRemoveGrab asked to remove a widget not on the list xemacs-21.4.5: X Error of failed request: BadFont (invalid Font parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 55 (X_CreateGC) Resource id in failed request: 0x3000019 Serial number of failed request: 153 Current serial number in output stream: 160 -- Michal Ostrowski mostrows@speakeasy.net From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 09:57:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01805; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:56:03 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn323.s.netic.de [212.9.163.67]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01778; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:55:45 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163et6-0000RR-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:50:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:50:08 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: stephen@xemacs.org Cc: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20011112.210316.730558097.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: 13 Nov 2001 11:34:09 +0900 Message-ID: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> HI, the workaround does not work for me. Regardless, what I am setting with "set-face-font", XEmacs insists of using the unreadable "-*-courier-medium-i-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*"-font I checked the existence of alternate fonts with xfontsel and gimp and copied the appropiate string via cute'n'paste to the minibuffer (so no typos) --- nothing changes.... Any further help available? Thank you very much in advance ! Meino > >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: > > Meino> I used "customize-face (all)" to set the simple "italic" > Meino> font to someting more readable as the default. Regardless > Meino> what I used as "arguments" to the customize dialog -- the > Meino> font does not change at all. > > Known bug in Customize, fix not yet known. > > Use M-: (set-face-font ...) RET as a workaround for now. Sorry. > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 10:20:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03243; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:18:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03216 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:17:35 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163fIp-0003xU-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 00:16:43 +0900 To: Meino Christian Cramer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <20011112.210316.730558097.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 14 Nov 2001 00:16:43 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> Message-ID: <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: Meino> Regardless, what I am setting with "set-face-font", XEmacs Meino> insists of using the unreadable Meino> "-*-courier-medium-i-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*"-font Show us exactly what call you are using to set the face to FONT. Also show us what (list-fonts FONT) tells you. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 10:25:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03702; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:25:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03651 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:24:33 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163fPZ-0003xw-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 00:23:41 +0900 To: Michal Ostrowski Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: 21.4.5 Can't "make-frame-on-display" References: <1005662647.1388.0.camel@brick.watson.ibm.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 14 Nov 2001 00:23:41 +0900 In-Reply-To: <1005662647.1388.0.camel@brick.watson.ibm.com> Message-ID: <87n11qwv7m.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , ARggh. We've seen this before, we don't know what's doing it. >>>>> "Michal" == Michal Ostrowski writes: Michal> After upgrading to 21.4.5 (from 21.4.4) I can no longer do Michal> a "make-frame-on-display", where the target display is a Michal> VNC display. Do you mean you start XEmacs on one machine then send the display to another? Michal> 21.4.4 works just fine, whereas 21.4.5 spits out a slew of Michal> messages like the ones below and then hangs. Michal> Suggestions? Use M-x report-xemacs-bug. We really need to know what your OS is and what features are built into XEmacs. Use the debugger to attach to XEmacs and get a backtrace for the location of the hang. Failing that, try starting XEmacs under the debugger, inducing the hang, and get a backtrace. If you can capture the output and send it to us, I seem to recall the errors are nearly identical but if there's anything different in them that may help to isolate a problem. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 10:56:21 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05677; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:56:04 -0500 Received: from igw3.watson.ibm.com (igw3.watson.ibm.com [198.81.209.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05595 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:55:11 -0500 Received: from sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com [9.2.112.57]) by igw3.watson.ibm.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fADFtAO09562 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:55:10 -0500 Received: from kitch0.watson.ibm.com (kitch0.watson.ibm.com [9.2.251.57]) by sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fADFtAd29358 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:55:10 -0500 Received: from brick.watson.ibm.com (brick.watson.ibm.com [9.2.244.69]) by kitch0.watson.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/01-10-2000) with ESMTP id KAA94966 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:55:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:55:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200111131555.KAA94966@kitch0.watson.ibm.com> From: Michal Ostrowski To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: 21.4.5 Hangs on "make-frame-on-display" Reply-to: mostrows@speakeasy.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! - started xemacs-21.4.5 under gdb - M-x make-frame-on-display - Specified display ":5" --- a VNC display on the local host - Some error messages generated, then process hangs - C-c in gdb and obtained back-trace below GNU gdb Red Hat Linux 7.x (5.0rh-15) (MI_OUT) Copyright 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"... (gdb) ri un Starting program: /home/mostrows/xemacs/bin/xemacs-21.4.5 Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt. 0x4055953e in __select () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x4055953e in __select () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40317714 in _XlcPublicMethods () at eval.c:41 #2 0x4026f63a in _XRead () at eval.c:41 #3 0x4026f042 in _XEventsQueued () at eval.c:41 #4 0x40251be7 in XCheckIfEvent () at eval.c:41 #5 0x0816f9da in emacs_Xt_quit_p () at event-Xt.c:2830 #6 0x080d7802 in event_stream_quit_p () at event-stream.c:596 #7 0x08156967 in check_quit () at signal.c:513 #8 0x080b21da in unbind_to_hairy (count=13) at eval.c:4966 #9 0x080b1d77 in unbind_to (count=13, value=136325532) at eval.c:4952 #10 0x080886cf in dfc_convert_to_external_format (source_type=DFC_TYPE_DATA, source=0xbfff8ae8, sink_type=DFC_TYPE_DATA, sink=0xbfff8ae0) at buffer.c:1948 #11 0x08130693 in std_handle_out_va (stream=0x405a7180, fmt=0x81ba16d "\n%s: ", args=0xbfffab54) at print.c:186 #12 0x08130764 in stderr_out (fmt=0x81ba16d "\n%s: ") at print.c:208 #13 0x0816b998 in x_error_handler (disp=0x87bf3a8, event=0xbfffab80) at device-x.c:1056 #14 0x40271d2e in _XError () at eval.c:41 #15 0x4026f122 in _XEventsQueued () at eval.c:41 #16 0x40251be7 in XCheckIfEvent () at eval.c:41 #17 0x0816f9da in emacs_Xt_quit_p () at event-Xt.c:2830 #18 0x080d7802 in event_stream_quit_p () at event-stream.c:596 #19 0x08156967 in check_quit () at signal.c:513 #20 0x080b21da in unbind_to_hairy (count=12) at eval.c:4966 #21 0x080b1d77 in unbind_to (count=12, value=136325532) at eval.c:4952 #22 0x080886cf in dfc_convert_to_external_format (source_type=DFC_TYPE_DATA, source=0xbfffbb38, sink_type=DFC_TYPE_DATA, sink=0xbfffbb30) at buffer.c:1948 #23 0x08130693 in std_handle_out_va (stream=0x405a7180, fmt=0x81ba16d "\n%s: ", args=0xbfffdba4) at print.c:186 #24 0x08130764 in stderr_out (fmt=0x81ba16d "\n%s: ") at print.c:208 #25 0x0816b998 in x_error_handler (disp=0x87bf3a8, event=0xbfffdbd0) at device-x.c:1056 #26 0x40271d2e in _XError () at eval.c:41 #27 0x402703bf in _XReply () at eval.c:41 #28 0x4026652d in XQueryColor () at eval.c:41 #29 0x08193e29 in make_shadow_gcs (mw=0x87fb1d0) at xlwmenu.c:2731 #30 0x08194517 in XlwMenuInitialize (request=0xbfffdf20, new=0x87fb1d0, args=0xbfffe348, num_args=0xbfffde40) at xlwmenu.c:3040 #31 0x401f4a87 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () at eval.c:41 #32 0x401f4f91 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () at eval.c:41 #33 0x401f5469 in _XtCreateWidget () at eval.c:41 #34 0x401f54ed in XtCreateWidget () at eval.c:41 #35 0x08196a1d in xlw_create_menubar (instance=0x87fb1b8) at lwlib-Xlw.c:132 #36 0x0818da61 in instantiate_widget_instance (instance=0x87fb1b8) at lwlib.c:941 #37 0x0818db49 in lw_make_widget (id=65540, parent=0x87dd5a8, pop_up_p=0 '\000') at lwlib.c:389 #38 0x0818e4be in lw_create_widget (type=0x81aca36 "menubar", name=0x81aca36 "menubar", id=65540, val=0x84e0a80, parent=0x87dd5a8, pop_up_p=0 '\000', pre_activate_cb=0x80c2688 , selection_cb=0x80c69f8 , post_activate_cb=0) at lwlib.c:993 #39 0x080c2b30 in set_frame_menubar (f=0x87dc650, deep_p=1, first_time_p=1) at menubar-x.c:607 #40 0x080c388e in x_initialize_frame_menubar (f=0x87dc650) at menubar-x.c:633 #41 0x08172edc in x_create_widgets (f=0x87dc650, lisp_window_id=136325532, parent=136325532) at frame-x.c:1997 #42 0x081740e7 in x_init_frame_1 (f=0x87dc650, props=136325532) at frame-x.c:2184 #43 0x080f857c in Fmake_frame (props=136325532, device=142339416) at frame.c:395 #44 0x080ae60a in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffe864) at eval.c:3528 #45 0x0808b8f3 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x87be8b8 "Ã\nÄ\t\b\n#\"\207", stack_depth=6, constants_data=0x82a1988) at bytecode.c:746 #46 0x0808b5c1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=137370980, nargs=3, args=0xbfffe9d8) at bytecode.c:515 #47 0x080ae712 in Ffuncall (nargs=4, args=0xbfffe9d4) at eval.c:3563 #48 0x0808b8f3 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x87be890 "\tÂk«\003Ã\021ÄÅ\t\b#\207", stack_depth=4, constants_data=0x840b618) at bytecode.c:746 #49 0x0808b5c1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=138456332, nargs=1, args=0xbfffeb44) at bytecode.c:515 #50 0x080ae712 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbfffeb40) at eval.c:3563 #51 0x0808f956 in Fcall_interactively (function=138239332, record_flag=136325556, keys=136325532) at callint.c:940 #52 0x080ad569 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=138239332, record_flag=136325556, keys=136325532) at eval.c:2970 #53 0x080ae61b in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffef94) at eval.c:3528 #54 0x0808b8f3 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x87abf88 "\r\035Æ\rÇa«\004Ȫ$\rÉk«\004ʪ\034\r¨«\aËÌ\r\"ª\022\r:«\r\r@¨«\bËÌ\r@\"ª\002Í!\024)\t«Kt«HÎ\f!\f\032\eÏ\fÐ\"\210\013­8\b¬\023Ñ Ò a«\aÓ pa«\006Ô \210ª\004Õ \210Ö×!­\eØÙË\013A«\004Úª\002Û\nÜ\013!#\"\210Ö\016\036!\210ÝÙ!*\207Ï\fÐ\"\207\b)", stack_depth=7, constants_data=0x82bcc18) at bytecode.c:746 #55 0x0808b5c1 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=137068316, nargs=1, args=0xbffff104) at bytecode.c:515 #56 0x080ae712 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xbffff100) at eval.c:3563 #57 0x0808f956 in Fcall_interactively (function=137081508, record_flag=136325532, keys=136325532) at callint.c:940 #58 0x080ad569 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=137081508, record_flag=136325532, keys=136325532) at eval.c:2970 #59 0x080d5bcc in execute_command_event (command_builder=0x844b160, event=139781808) at event-stream.c:3915 #60 0x080d63f3 in Fdispatch_event (event=139781808) at event-stream.c:4247 #61 0x08093b89 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:583 #62 0x080abee9 in condition_case_1 (handlers=136325628, bfun=0x8093da0 , barg=136325532, hfun=0x8093e1c , harg=136325532) at eval.c:1651 #63 0x08093ff0 in command_loop_2 (dummy=136325532) at cmdloop.c:256 #64 0x080abdbd in internal_catch (tag=136401628, func=0x8093fac , arg=136325532, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1317 #65 0x080938d8 in initial_command_loop (load_me=136325532) at cmdloop.c:305 #66 0x080a9445 in xemacs_21_4_5_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2353 #67 0x080a9b2f in main () at emacs.c:2782 #68 0x40495306 in __libc_start_main (main=0x80a9a24
, argc=1, ubp_av=0xbffff984, init=0x807d668 <_init>, fini=0x819d978 <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000d2cc <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffff97c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 (gdb) quit The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux brick.watson.ibm.com 2.4.12-ac2 #14 Mon Oct 22 11:20:29 EDT 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--prefix=/home/mostrows/xemacs' XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/mostrows/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.4 Installation prefix: /home/mostrows/xemacs Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. 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/home/mostrows/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib/base64 /home/mostrows/xemacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/w3/base64) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc :version 1.09 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.01 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.18 :type regular) (vm :version 6.92 :type regular) (viper :version 1.25 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.13 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.14 :type regular) (vc :version 1.28 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.26 :type regular) (time :version 1.11 :type regular) (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.32 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.17 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.19 :type regular) (sounds-wav 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lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- M-x x e m TAB r e TAB TAB BS BS TAB BS BS BS BS BS BS BS r e p o TAB r TAB x e TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... 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Loading gnus-xmas...done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 11:30:40 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07702; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:29:03 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn310.s.netic.de [212.9.163.54]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07669; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:28:32 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163gOK-0000bO-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:26:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:26:28 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: stephen@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: 14 Nov 2001 00:16:43 +0900 Message-ID: <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> stephen> stephen> >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: stephen> stephen> Meino> Regardless, what I am setting with "set-face-font", XEmacs stephen> Meino> insists of using the unreadable stephen> Meino> "-*-courier-medium-i-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*"-font stephen> stephen> Show us exactly what call you are using to set the face to FONT. Also stephen> show us what (list-fonts FONT) tells you. I did the following: I used customize-face (all = yes) to seacrh for the face used by AUC-TeX for its italic-face display. I gave the faces in question a blue background and typed some characters in AUC-TeX to proof whether I found the one. After some tests, it was clear, that AUC-TeX uses the "italic" face to display the characters. Changing the font for the "italic" face via customize failed (the begin of the story). You gave me the hint, to use set-face-font directly to set the font for the italic face. I started 'xlsfont -f xlsfonts -fn "-*-*-*-i-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"' to giove me a list of fonts of the disired slant and size. I tried xfontsel and gimp to acces those fonts to be sure, that they are useable...they were. I typed M-x set-face-font italic -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1"" after switching to tex-mode (which activates AUC-TeX). That does not work for me...no change was visisble. I tried M-x set-face-font italic -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1 instead. No success, too. But XEmacs does not display any errors or something like that. It seems that "list-fonts" is a little be tricky...and I am no Lisp expert. As I understand, list-fonts returns a list of font names. I exxecuted the command (list-fonts "-*-*-*-i-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*") and it prints me dozens of fonts into the minibuffer...and after a second or two the list vanishes.... I have no clue how to copy the output into a mail (which means more exactly:...how to turn a lisp list into a "real string" )...would you give me a hint, please :-) Same goes for (list-fonts "-adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1" ).... Thank you! Meino stephen> stephen> stephen> -- stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 12:09:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10626; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:07:06 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10546; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:06:14 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25365; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA15295; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA01650; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:01:24 +0100 (MET) To: Meino Christian Cramer Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 13 Nov 2001 18:06:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> Message-ID: Lines: 120 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: Meino> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Meino> Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Meino> Date: 14 Nov 2001 00:16:43 +0900 Meino> Message-ID: <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> stephen> stephen> >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: stephen> stephen> Meino> Regardless, what I am setting with "set-face-font", XEmacs stephen> Meino> insists of using the unreadable stephen> Meino> "-*-courier-medium-i-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*"-font stephen> stephen> Show us exactly what call you are using to set the face to FONT. Also stephen> show us what (list-fonts FONT) tells you. Meino> I did the following: Meino> I used customize-face (all = yes) to seacrh for the Meino> face used by AUC-TeX for its italic-face display. Meino> I gave the faces in question a blue background and typed Meino> some characters in AUC-TeX to proof whether I found the Meino> one. After some tests, it was clear, that AUC-TeX uses Meino> the "italic" face to display the characters. Meino> Changing the font for the "italic" face via customize failed Meino> (the begin of the story). Meino> You gave me the hint, to use set-face-font directly to Meino> set the font for the italic face. Meino> I started 'xlsfont -f xlsfonts -fn "-*-*-*-i-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"' Meino> to giove me a list of fonts of the disired slant and size. Meino> I tried xfontsel and gimp to acces those fonts to be sure, Meino> that they are useable...they were. Meino> I typed Meino> M-x set-face-font italic -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1"" On W2K I use M-x set-face-font RET italic RET Courier New:Italic:10::Western RET -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1"" is definitely wrong. Use one of the fonts listed by list-fonts. Meino> after switching to tex-mode (which activates AUC-TeX). Meino> That does not work for me...no change was visisble. Meino> I tried Meino> M-x set-face-font italic -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1 Meino> instead. Meino> No success, too. But XEmacs does not display any errors or something like that. Meino> It seems that "list-fonts" is a little be tricky...and I am no Lisp expert. Meino> As I understand, list-fonts returns a list of font names. Meino> I exxecuted the command Meino> (list-fonts "-*-*-*-i-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*") Meino> and it prints me dozens of fonts into the minibuffer...and after a second or two Meino> the list vanishes.... Meino> I have no clue how to copy the output into a mail (which Meino> means more exactly:...how to turn a lisp list into a "real Meino> string" )...would you give me a hint, please :-) You can be helped. Use View->Show Message Log to find messages past. Execute C-u (universal-argument) C-x C-e (eval-last-sexp) that's the sequence C-u C-x C-e RET (as M-x view-lossage RET reports it) after the list-fonts form in a mail or *scratch* buffer. Here is what I get on W2K (the result seems a bit funny but that may be a native XEmacs on MS Windows problem): (list-fonts "Courier New:Italic:10::Western") ("Courier New::::Western" "Courier New::::Western" "Courier New::::Western" "Courier New::::Western") Use one of the font strings you get, without the quotes, with set-face-font. Hope this helps, Adrian Meino> Same goes for Meino> (list-fonts "-adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1" ).... Meino> Thank you! Meino> Meino stephen> stephen> stephen> -- stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 12:32:44 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12297; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:31:16 -0500 Received: from boffi95.stru.polimi.it (boffi95.stru.polimi.it [131.175.24.94]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12264; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:30:46 -0500 Received: from gb by boffi95.stru.polimi.it with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163iIz-00007i-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:29:05 +0100 From: giacomo boffi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15345.26223.842179.900821@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:29:03 +0100 To: Meino Christian Cramer Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change In-Reply-To: <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> References: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > M-x set-face-font > italic > -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1 ^ try "...bold-o-...." speaking of adobe-courier, italic fonts are construed on the fly by the X server (ugliness!), oblique fonts are hand-tuned bitmapped fonts, too mauch better than italics From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 12:45:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13379; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:44:02 -0500 Received: from boffi95.stru.polimi.it (boffi95.stru.polimi.it [131.175.24.94]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13301; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:43:16 -0500 Received: from gb by boffi95.stru.polimi.it with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163iVY-00007u-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:42:04 +0100 From: giacomo boffi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15345.26995.304716.459992@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:41:55 +0100 To: Adrian Aichner Cc: Meino Christian Cramer , stephen@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change In-Reply-To: References: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner writes: > >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: > > Meino> I started 'xlsfont -f xlsfonts -fn > Meino> "-*-*-*-i-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"' to giove me > Meino> a list of fonts of the disired slant and > Meino> size. > > > Meino> I tried xfontsel and gimp to acces those > Meino> fonts to be sure, that they are > Meino> useable...they were. > > On W2K I use it seems to me that Meino has some form of X running... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 12:48:27 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13627; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:47:02 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13579 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:46:39 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AFF231F for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:46:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2E010F for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:46:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id JAA22073 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:46:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111131746.JAA22073@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Old Win32 XEmacs on the web page Reply-To: Darryl Okahata Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Tue_Nov_13_09:46:36_2001-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:46:37 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --Multipart_Tue_Nov_13_09:46:36_2001-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII FYI, Someone (Adrian???) might want to check out the web page for ancient Win32 binaries. I've been hearing rumors (from within my company) about ancient Win32 XEmacs binaries on the XEmacs web site, and I just saw this posting on news. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. --Multipart_Tue_Nov_13_09:46:36_2001-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: edburns@yahoo.com (Ed Burns) Subject: ediff broken: ''End of stream: "internal input stream"'' Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Date: 12 Nov 2001 15:58:51 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ I'm using Xemacs 21.1.9 on Win2000, installed from the .exe installer on xemacs.org, and the sumo tarball: xemacs-sumo-2001-09-29.tar.gz. When I visit a buffer and do M-x ediff-merge, I get the message End of stream: "internal input stream" in the status bar and no ediff buffers are opened. Can someone please help me? Co-incidentally, I also get the message when I invoke M-x compile for the first time in a session. Subsequent invocations of M-x compile work ok. Ed --Multipart_Tue_Nov_13_09:46:36_2001-1-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 12:53:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14097; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:52:02 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn277.s.netic.de [212.9.163.21]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14046; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:51:20 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163hfs-0000nN-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:48:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:48:40 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011113.184840.846941392.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <15345.26223.842179.900821@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> References: <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> <15345.26223.842179.900821@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: giacomo boffi Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:29:03 +0100 Message-ID: <15345.26223.842179.900821@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> Hi Giacomo! Thanks for your reply ! ;-) Unfortunately set-face-font does not work for me... It does not change anything regardless what font I take. Any ideas ??? keep hacking the right site of life ! :-) Meino giacomo.boffi> > M-x set-face-font giacomo.boffi> > italic giacomo.boffi> > -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1 giacomo.boffi> ^ giacomo.boffi> try "...bold-o-...." giacomo.boffi> giacomo.boffi> speaking of adobe-courier, italic fonts are construed on the fly by giacomo.boffi> the X server (ugliness!), oblique fonts are hand-tuned bitmapped giacomo.boffi> fonts, too mauch better than italics giacomo.boffi> From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 12:58:24 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14505; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:57:02 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn277.s.netic.de [212.9.163.21]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14458; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:56:15 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163hlV-0000oU-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:54:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:54:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011113.185429.640900619.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: giacomo.boffi@polimi.it Cc: adrian@xemacs.org, stephen@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <15345.26995.304716.459992@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> References: <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> <15345.26995.304716.459992@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: giacomo boffi Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:41:55 +0100 Message-ID: <15345.26995.304716.459992@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> YES ! BINGO !!! :O)))))) ....I had reported that in my prevous mails (I think...).... (no problem! NO ZYNISM! NO CRITISM!!! :O) Meino giacomo.boffi> Adrian Aichner writes: giacomo.boffi> > >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: giacomo.boffi> > giacomo.boffi> > Meino> I started 'xlsfont -f xlsfonts -fn giacomo.boffi> > Meino> "-*-*-*-i-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"' to giove me giacomo.boffi> > Meino> a list of fonts of the disired slant and giacomo.boffi> > Meino> size. giacomo.boffi> > > giacomo.boffi> > Meino> I tried xfontsel and gimp to acces those giacomo.boffi> > Meino> fonts to be sure, that they are giacomo.boffi> > Meino> useable...they were. giacomo.boffi> > giacomo.boffi> > On W2K I use giacomo.boffi> giacomo.boffi> it seems to me that Meino has some form of X running... giacomo.boffi> From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 13:01:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14777; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:00:01 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn277.s.netic.de [212.9.163.21]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14058; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:51:26 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163heQ-0000nI-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:47:10 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:47:10 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011113.184710.730551034.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: adrian@xemacs.org Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: References: <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: Adrian Aichner Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: 13 Nov 2001 18:06:30 +0100 Message-ID: Hi Adrian! Thanks for the hint ;-) I got with the command: (list-fonts "-*-*-*-i-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*") the following list (formatted by me) ("-adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1" "-adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-3" "-adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-9" "-adobe-courier-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1" "-adobe-courier-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-courier-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-3" "-adobe-courier-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-9" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-adobe-utopia-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-bitstream-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1" "-bitstream-courier-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1" "-schumacher-clean-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-c-0-iso646.1991-irv" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-1" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-3" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-4" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-9" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-10" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-13" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-14" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-15" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso10646-1" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-1" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-3" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-4" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-9" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-10" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-13" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-14" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-15" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso10646-1" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-1" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-3" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-4" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-9" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-10" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-13" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-14" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-15" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso10646-1" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-1" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-3" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-4" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-9" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-10" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-13" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-14" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-15" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso10646-1" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-1" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-3" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-4" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-9" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-10" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-13" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-14" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-15" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso10646-1" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-1" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-3" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-4" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-9" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-10" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-13" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-14" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-15" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso10646-1" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-1" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-3" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-4" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-9" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-10" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-13" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-14" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-15" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso10646-1" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-1" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-3" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-4" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-9" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-10" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-13" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-14" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-15" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso10646-1" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-1" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-3" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-4" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-9" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-10" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-13" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-14" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-15" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso10646-1" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-1" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-3" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-4" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-9" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-10" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-13" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-14" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-15" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso10646-1" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-1" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-3" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-4" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-9" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-10" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-13" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-14" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-15" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso10646-1" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-1" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-3" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-4" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-9" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-10" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-13" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-14" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-15" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso10646-1" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-1" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-2" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-3" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-4" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-9" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-10" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-13" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-14" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso8859-15" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-78-iso10646-1" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-1" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-2" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-3" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-4" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-9" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-10" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-13" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-14" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-15" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso10646-1" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-1" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-3" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-4" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-9" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-10" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-13" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-14" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-15" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso10646-1" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-1" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-3" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-4" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-9" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-10" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-13" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-14" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-15" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso10646-1" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-1" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-3" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-4" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-9" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-10" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-13" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-14" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-15" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso10646-1" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-1" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-3" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-4" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-9" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-10" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-13" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-14" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-15" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso10646-1" "-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-86-iso8859-1" "-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-76-iso8859-1" "-cronyx-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-54-koi8-r" "-cronyx-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-54-koi8-r" "-cronyx-times-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-koi8-r" "-cronyx-times-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-koi8-r" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-88-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-81-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-77-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-92-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-84-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-80-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-88-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-81-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-77-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-73-iso8859-2" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-74-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-90-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-84-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-100-100-100-p-80-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-utopia-regular-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-bold-i-normal-sans-14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucida-medium-i-normal-sans-14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-demibold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-b&h-lucidabright-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-2" "-adobe-utopia-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-adobe-utopia-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-bitstream-charter-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-bitstream-charter-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-urw-bookman l-demi bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-urw-bookman l-light-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-urw-century schoolbook l-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-urw-century schoolbook l-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-urw-chancery l-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-urw-nimbus roman no9 l-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-urw-nimbus roman no9 l-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-urw-palladio l-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1" "-urw-palladio l-medium-i-normal--14-135-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1") As you can see, there are really enough fonts to choose from..... ;-) But XEmacs does not wnat them....sigh The pattern by W2K-XEmacsen is totally different from those used by XEmacsen on UNICES. Otherwise the command would exspect more input from me after the third . I tried: M-x set-face-font italic -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1 ...but again no change... keep hacking the right site of life ! :-) Meino adrian> You can be helped. Use adrian> View->Show Message Log adrian> to find messages past. adrian> adrian> Execute adrian> C-u (universal-argument) adrian> C-x C-e (eval-last-sexp) adrian> that's the sequence adrian> C-u C-x C-e RET adrian> (as M-x view-lossage RET reports it) after the list-fonts form in a adrian> mail or *scratch* buffer. adrian> adrian> Here is what I get on W2K (the result seems a bit funny but that may adrian> be a native XEmacs on MS Windows problem): adrian> adrian> (list-fonts "Courier New:Italic:10::Western") adrian> adrian> ("Courier New::::Western" "Courier New::::Western" "Courier New::::Western" "Courier New::::Western") adrian> adrian> Use one of the font strings you get, without the quotes, with set-face-font. adrian> adrian> Hope this helps, adrian> adrian> Adrian adrian> adrian> Meino> Same goes for adrian> adrian> Meino> (list-fonts "-adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1" ).... adrian> adrian> adrian> Meino> Thank you! adrian> adrian> adrian> Meino> Meino adrian> adrian> stephen> adrian> stephen> adrian> stephen> -- adrian> stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp adrian> adrian> adrian> -- adrian> Adrian Aichner adrian> mailto:adrian@xemacs.org adrian> http://www.xemacs.org/ adrian> adrian> From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 13:50:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17543; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:50:07 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17489; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:49:20 -0500 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 163icS-0003Cm-05; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:49:12 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.14.69]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 163icF-1nOSMCC; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:48:59 +0100 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Old Win32 XEmacs on the web page References: <200111131746.JAA22073@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 62 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> FYI, Darryl> Someone (Adrian???) might want to check out the web Darryl> page for Darryl> ancient Win32 binaries. I've been hearing rumors (from Hi Darryl, IE can't parse that URL :-) Darryl> within my company) about ancient Win32 XEmacs binaries on Darryl> the XEmacs web site, and I just saw this posting on news. Yes, I reported and even fixed this bug a while back after review from Ben. What's you suggestion? I can only guess you want this binary to be pulled off the disk? Any pinters would be highly welcome. Darryl> -- Darryl> Darryl Okahata Darryl> darrylo@soco.agilent.com Darryl> DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion Darryl> and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Darryl> Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have Darryl> been following him all day. The little green men have changed their company logo to dark blue and a light grey :-) Darryl> From: edburns@yahoo.com (Ed Burns) Darryl> Subject: ediff broken: ''End of stream: "internal input stream"'' Darryl> Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Darryl> Date: 12 Nov 2001 15:58:51 -0800 Darryl> Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Darryl> I'm using Xemacs 21.1.9 on Win2000, installed from the .exe installer Darryl> on xemacs.org, and the sumo tarball: xemacs-sumo-2001-09-29.tar.gz. Darryl> When I visit a buffer and do M-x ediff-merge, I get the message Darryl> End of stream: "internal input stream" Darryl> in the status bar and no ediff buffers are opened. Can someone please Darryl> help me? Darryl> Co-incidentally, I also get the message when I invoke M-x compile for Darryl> the first time in a session. Subsequent invocations of M-x compile Darryl> work ok. Darryl> Ed Darryl> ---------- -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 14:22:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19514; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:22:06 -0500 Received: from fe170.worldonline.dk (fe170.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.199]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA19407 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:21:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:21:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200111131921.OAA19407@gwyn.tux.org> Received: (qmail 26692 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2001 19:20:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jnm.localhost) (213.237.52.202) by fe170.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 13 Nov 2001 19:20:16 -0000 From: "Jeppe N. Madsen" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! Occasionally, xemacs/cygwin hangs when using the mouse wheel. It's not clear when this happens, but it seems to be more often when flyspell is active. On my machine I can always reproduce as follows: - Start xemacs -no-init-file -vanilla - Load a largish text file - Start juggling quickly back & forth with the mouse wheel, scrolling the document backwards/forwards - Within a few seconds xemacs hangs. Sometimes CPU usage goes to 100% but this is not consistent Btw, this was also a problem with 21.4.3 rgds Jeppe ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service (Windows)" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. Using MS-Windows menubars. Using MS-Windows scrollbars. Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. Using MS-Windows native widgets. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for file coding. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. 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Loading jnm-keybdmap...done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 14:51:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21344; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:51:07 -0500 Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21310; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:50:26 -0500 Received: from modem-1060.blastoise.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.46.36] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 163jZb-00001q-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:50:19 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163jeR-0004qY-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:55:19 +0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: stephen@xemacs.org Subject: fix for gtk-faces.el From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.1.10 (i386-debian-linux) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 13 Nov 2001 19:55:19 +0000 Message-ID: <87n11qla3c.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I have a fix for XEmacs 21.4.5. When I built --with-gtk default faces weren't setup. If you examine gtk-faces.el in your sources, and look at: (defun gtk-init-device-faces (device) ;; ;; If the "default" face didn't have a font specified, try to pick one. ;; (if (not (eq (device-type device) 'gtk)) nil (gtk-init-pointers) '(let* ((style (gtk-style-info device)) I think the last line is the baddy: the let* shouldn't be quoted. If you just remove the ' and make install again it works. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 15:14:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22861; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:14:03 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22831 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:13:31 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF27C2E80 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:13:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCC814E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:13:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id MAA24177 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:13:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111132013.MAA24177@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: 21.4.5: window_loop() no workee Reply-To: Darryl Okahata Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Tue_Nov_13_12:13:26_2001-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:13:27 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --Multipart_Tue_Nov_13_12:13:26_2001-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII [ Not yet submitted to xemacs-patches, because I want opinions on this. ] In XEmacs 21.4.5, I've noticed that `delete-windows-on' is broken when multiple devices are used. To reproduce: * Under X-windows, start: xemacs -q -vanilla * M-x start-gnuserv * Start up an xterm, and run gnuclient in the xterm (unset $DISPLAY before running gnuclient). * In the xterm XEmacs, create a buffer called "ddd". * Go back to the X-window XEmacs, and make sure that only the *scratch* buffer is shown (`C-x 1' if necessary). * In the X-windows *scratch* buffer, eval `(delete-windows-on "ddd")' Note that the buffer "ddd" in the xterm is unaffected; the window should have been deleted, but wasn't. I think I've tracked this problem down to window_loop(), which seems to have two bugs: 1. When determining the last window on a device, Fprevious_window() is allowed to search for windows across all devices, and is not restricted to the current device. This can cause problems in the subsequent code that loops over all windows on a given device, as the "last window" may never be found (as the "last window" may be on a different device). 2. window_loop() does have code to prevent an infloop, due to bugs like the above: /* Given the outstanding quality of the rest of this code, I feel no shame about putting this piece of shit in. */ if (++lose_lose >= 500) return Qnil; However, the "return Qnil" means that subsequent devices are never searched; I think this should really be a "break;", to allow subsequent devices to be searched. I've attached a patch that addresses both of these. Comments? I'll submit an official patch if people think this is correct. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. --Multipart_Tue_Nov_13_12:13:26_2001-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="diffs" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: window.c =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /users/darrylo/.repository/xemacs-21.4/src/window.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.2 diff -c -r1.1.1.2 window.c *** window.c 2001/11/05 23:53:59 1.1.1.2 --- window.c 2001/11/13 19:49:53 *************** *** 2614,2620 **** We can't just wait until we hit the first window again, because it might be deleted. */ = ! last_window =3D Fprevious_window (w, mini ? Qt : Qnil, frame_arg,= Qt); = best_window =3D Qnil; for (;;) --- 2614,2620 ---- We can't just wait until we hit the first window again, because it might be deleted. */ = ! last_window =3D Fprevious_window (w, mini ? Qt : Qnil, frame_arg,= device); = best_window =3D Qnil; for (;;) *************** *** 2629,2635 **** /* Given the outstanding quality of the rest of this code, I feel no shame about putting this piece of shit in. */ if (++lose_lose >=3D 500) ! return Qnil; = /* Note that we do not pay attention here to whether the frame is visible, since Fnext_window skips non-visible frames= --- 2629,2635 ---- /* Given the outstanding quality of the rest of this code, I feel no shame about putting this piece of shit in. */ if (++lose_lose >=3D 500) ! break; = /* Note that we do not pay attention here to whether the frame is visible, since Fnext_window skips non-visible frames= --Multipart_Tue_Nov_13_12:13:26_2001-1-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 15:19:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA23149; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:19:02 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA23052 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:17:43 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fADKHfb19678; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com ([192.168.11.36]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29623; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:17:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113121000.00b77b60@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:12:16 -0800 To: "Jeppe N. Madsen" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel In-Reply-To: <200111131921.OAA19407@gwyn.tux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Yes, I see this also. Unfortunately my main development environment doesn't have a mousewheel and my secondary development environment has a Logitech mouse which does cause the problem. I only see the problem when using a icrosoft mouse. I assume that the microsoft mouse driver is generating wheel events directly or something. If I was able to reproduce this in my dev environment I could probably fix it. andy At 02:21 PM 11/13/01 -0500, Jeppe N. Madsen wrote: >This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, > not to your local site managers!! >Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have >translators to read other languages for them. > > >Please describe as succinctly as possible: > - What happened. > - What you thought should have happened. > - Precisely what you were doing at the time. > >Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. >================================================================ >Dear Bug Team! > >Occasionally, xemacs/cygwin hangs when using the mouse wheel. It's not >clear when this happens, but it seems to be more often when flyspell >is active. On my machine I can always reproduce as follows: > >- Start xemacs -no-init-file -vanilla >- Load a largish text file >- Start juggling quickly back & forth with the mouse wheel, scrolling the >document backwards/forwards >- Within a few seconds xemacs hangs. Sometimes CPU usage goes to 100% >but this is not consistent > >Btw, this was also a problem with 21.4.3 > >rgds >Jeppe > > >================================================================ > >System Info to help track down your bug: >--------------------------------------- > >uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686 unknown > >./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' >'--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' >'--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' > > >XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service (Windows)" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. > > >Compilation / Installation: > Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4 > Installation prefix: /usr/local > Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/../include/noX > -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith > Relocating allocator for buffers: no > GNU version of malloc: yes > >Window System: > Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. > Using MS-Windows menubars. > Using MS-Windows scrollbars. > Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. > Using MS-Windows native widgets. > Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). > - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. > >TTY: > Compiling in support for ncurses. > >Images: > Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > Compiling in support for XPM images. > Compiling in support for PNG images. > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. > >Sound: > Compiling in support for sound (native). > >Databases: > Compiling in support for GNU DBM. > >Internationalization: > Compiling in support for file coding. > >Mail: > Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. > >Other Features: > Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. > > > >Load-Path Lisp Shadows: 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:version 1.13 :type regular) > (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) > (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) > (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) > (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) > (build :version 1.02 :type regular) > (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) > (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) > (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) > (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) > (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) > > >Features: >-------- > >(mail-abbrevs flyspell ispell xemacsbug shadow sendmail font >disp-table blink-cursor paren blink-paren big-menubar jde executable >jde-package jde-import jde-which-method jde-stat jde-javadoc >jde-javadoc-gen jde-java-font-lock jde-bug jde-dbs jde-dbo jde-help >jde-wiz jde-widgets tree-widget jde-complete beanshell browse-url >jde-gen tempo jde-make compile jde-run jde-db jde-parse jde-imenu >regexp-opt semantic-imenu jde-java-grammar semantic-java eieio avltree >stack-m elib-node semantic-ctxt semantic-bnf semantic-sb speedbar >sb-image dframe semantic-util assoc semantic working gud tags etags >comint ring jde-compile cus-edit cus-load semantic-load func-menu >cua-mode backup-dir view-less view efs-ovwrt default-dir recent-files >redo info font-lock cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles >cc-langs cc-vars wid-edit cc-menus imenu cc-defs face-list advice >advice-preload color-theme edmacro cus-face tex-site tex-mik mwheel >footnote zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads >xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads >viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads >vc-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads >time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads >texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads >speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads >slider-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads >scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads >ps-print-nomule-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads >pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads >misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads >mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads >ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads >hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads >games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads >forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads >eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads >eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads >ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads >debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads >calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads >bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads >Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds >gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer >auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete >help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start >custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote >very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames >tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast >network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar >dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type >cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) > > >Recent keystrokes: >----------------- > >M-x r e p o r t TAB x e TAB RET > > >Recent messages (most recent first): >----------------------------------- > >Loading mail-abbrevs...done >Loading mail-abbrevs... >Welcome to flyspell. Use M-tab or Mouse-2 to correct words. >Starting new Ispell process... >(Next local Ispell command will use american dictionary) >(Next local Ispell command will use american dictionary) >Loading flyspell...done >Loading flyspell... >Loading xemacsbug...done >Loading xemacsbug... >Loading font...done >Loading font... >Loading blink-cursor...done >Loading blink-cursor... >Paren mode is paren >Loading paren...done >Loading paren... >Loading big-menubar...done >Loading big-menubar... >Loading jnm-keybdmap...done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 15:58:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA25652; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:58:03 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA25597 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:57:06 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D208E2B02; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:57:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12A7538; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:57:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id MAA24879; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:57:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111132057.MAA24879@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Old Win32 XEmacs on the web page Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "13 Nov 2001 19:49:25 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:57:02 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: > I can only guess you want this binary to be pulled off the disk? No, but: * The poster in comp.xemacs said that he installed "21.1.9" (the older ones available are "21.1.14/21.1.13", according to the web page). He could be wrong, but one of the XEmacs web pages may have a stray pointer to "21.1.9" somewhere. * The web page says that older versions ("21.1.14/21.1.13") can be installed, but Andy said (yesterday) that can no longer be done via the netinstaller. * Have the web sites changed in the last week or so? Inside my company, I've been handling a complaint about cygwin XEmacs under Win98. They've been complaining about how a setup.exe "obtained from xemacs.org" (1) says that it's out-of-date, and (2) screws up the XEmacs desktop shortcut by putting command.com into the shortcut (AFAICT, setup.exe used to add command.com to the shortcut, but no longer does so). Last Wednesday or Thursday, I downloaded the (then) latest setup.exe, and installed XEmacs (cygwin) under Win98; command.com was not added to the shortcut, and the shortcut worked fine. Everything worked fine for me, and so I'm at a loss why others are having problems. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 16:05:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA26359; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:05:01 -0500 Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu (hecky.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.51]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA26317 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:04:32 -0500 Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA25139 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:04:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from c1294600a (dhcp081096.res-hall.nwu.edu [199.74.81.96]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma024743; Tue, 13 Nov 01 15:04:03 -0600 Message-ID: <002f01c16c86$acd14d60$60514ac7@c1294600a> From: "Jared Brown" To: Subject: XEmacs help Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:03:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C16C54.6216D240" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C16C54.6216D240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. My name is Jared Brown, and I'm an XEmacs user. Up until this week, XEmacs was working fine for me. I have Microsoft Windows XP, and I'm using XEmacs to program in Scheme. Anyway, for some reason now, when I run xemacs.exe (under XEmacs 21.4), nothing happens. It's so odd. There are no error messages, no warnings, nothing. I don't even think a new process begins. Is there a workaround or a patch? Have you seen or heard of this before? Thanks! Jared ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C16C54.6216D240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi. My name is Jared Brown, and I'm an XEmacs user. Up = until
this week,=20 XEmacs was working fine for me. I have Microsoft
Windows XP, and I'm = using=20 XEmacs to program in Scheme. Anyway,
for some reason now, when I run=20 xemacs.exe (under XEmacs 21.4),
nothing happens. It's so odd. There = are no=20 error messages, no
warnings, nothing. I don't even think a new = process=20 begins. Is
there a workaround or a patch? Have you seen or heard of=20 this
before?
Thanks!
Jared
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C16C54.6216D240-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 17:13:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA30750; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:12:06 -0500 Received: from spider.crnet.com (spider.crnet.com [208.242.241.92]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA30721 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:11:44 -0500 Received: from mondas (dante.limolink.com [207.191.205.200]) by spider.crnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA22403; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:13:05 -0600 Message-ID: <02f701c16c90$67650a50$6501a8c0@mondas> From: "James N. Potts" To: , "Andy Piper" References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113121000.00b77b60@san-francisco.beasys.com> Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:13:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Duplicated under win32 native. With very incomplete testing, it seems to occur when the mouse wheel is clicked while rapidly scrolling. Ie, I wasn't able to get a freeze when I was being very careful not to click. I'm going to try it under a debugger, and try to see where it hangs. -Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Piper" To: "Jeppe N. Madsen" ; Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel > Yes, I see this also. Unfortunately my main development environment doesn't > have a mousewheel and my secondary development environment has a Logitech > mouse which does cause the problem. I only see the problem when using a > icrosoft mouse. I assume that the microsoft mouse driver is generating > wheel events directly or something. If I was able to reproduce this in my > dev environment I could probably fix it. > > andy > > At 02:21 PM 11/13/01 -0500, Jeppe N. Madsen wrote: > >This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, > > not to your local site managers!! > >Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have > >translators to read other languages for them. > > > > > >Please describe as succinctly as possible: > > - What happened. > > - What you thought should have happened. > > - Precisely what you were doing at the time. > > > >Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. > >================================================================ > >Dear Bug Team! > > > >Occasionally, xemacs/cygwin hangs when using the mouse wheel. It's not > >clear when this happens, but it seems to be more often when flyspell > >is active. On my machine I can always reproduce as follows: > > > >- Start xemacs -no-init-file -vanilla > >- Load a largish text file > >- Start juggling quickly back & forth with the mouse wheel, scrolling the > >document backwards/forwards > >- Within a few seconds xemacs hangs. Sometimes CPU usage goes to 100% > >but this is not consistent > > > >Btw, this was also a problem with 21.4.3 > > > >rgds > >Jeppe > > > > > >================================================================ > > > >System Info to help track down your bug: > >--------------------------------------- > > > >uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686 unknown > > > >./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' > >'--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' > >'--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' > > > > > >XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service (Windows)" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. > > > > > >Compilation / Installation: > > Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4 > > Installation prefix: /usr/local > > Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' > > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > > Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/../include/noX > > -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith > > Relocating allocator for buffers: no > > GNU version of malloc: yes > > > >Window System: > > Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. > > Using MS-Windows menubars. > > Using MS-Windows scrollbars. > > Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. > > Using MS-Windows native widgets. > > Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). > > - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. > > > >TTY: > > Compiling in support for ncurses. > > > >Images: > > Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > > Compiling in support for XPM images. > > Compiling in support for PNG images. > > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > > Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. > > > >Sound: > > Compiling in support for sound (native). > > > >Databases: > > Compiling in support for GNU DBM. > > > >Internationalization: > > Compiling in support for file coding. > > > >Mail: > > Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. > > > >Other Features: > > Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. > > > > > > > >Load-Path Lisp Shadows: > >---------------------- > >(/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/texmathp > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/texmathp > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/tex > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/tex > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/tex-site > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/tex-site > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/tex-jp > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/tex-jp > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/tex-info > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/tex-info > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/tex-buf > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/tex-buf > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/multi-prompt > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/multi-prompt > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/latex > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/latex > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/font-latex > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/font-latex > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/bib-cite > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/bib-cite > >/cygdrive/d/work/emacs/packages/auctex-10.0g/auc-old > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/auc-old > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/site-packages/jde-2.2.8/lisp/setnu > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edit-utils/setnu > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/site-packages/eieio-0.17beta2/tree > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eieio/tree > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/site-packages/eieio-0.17beta2/eieio > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eieio/eieio > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/site-packages/eieio-0.17beta2/eieio-tests > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eieio/eieio-tests > 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>Features: > >-------- > > > >(mail-abbrevs flyspell ispell xemacsbug shadow sendmail font > >disp-table blink-cursor paren blink-paren big-menubar jde executable > >jde-package jde-import jde-which-method jde-stat jde-javadoc > >jde-javadoc-gen jde-java-font-lock jde-bug jde-dbs jde-dbo jde-help > >jde-wiz jde-widgets tree-widget jde-complete beanshell browse-url > >jde-gen tempo jde-make compile jde-run jde-db jde-parse jde-imenu > >regexp-opt semantic-imenu jde-java-grammar semantic-java eieio avltree > >stack-m elib-node semantic-ctxt semantic-bnf semantic-sb speedbar > >sb-image dframe semantic-util assoc semantic working gud tags etags > >comint ring jde-compile cus-edit cus-load semantic-load func-menu > >cua-mode backup-dir view-less view efs-ovwrt default-dir recent-files > >redo info font-lock cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles > >cc-langs cc-vars wid-edit cc-menus imenu cc-defs face-list advice > >advice-preload color-theme edmacro cus-face tex-site tex-mik mwheel 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multicast > >network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar > >dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type > >cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) > > > > > >Recent keystrokes: > >----------------- > > > >M-x r e p o r t TAB x e TAB RET > > > > > >Recent messages (most recent first): > >----------------------------------- > > > >Loading mail-abbrevs...done > >Loading mail-abbrevs... > >Welcome to flyspell. Use M-tab or Mouse-2 to correct words. > >Starting new Ispell process... > >(Next local Ispell command will use american dictionary) > >(Next local Ispell command will use american dictionary) > >Loading flyspell...done > >Loading flyspell... > >Loading xemacsbug...done > >Loading xemacsbug... > >Loading font...done > >Loading font... > >Loading blink-cursor...done > >Loading blink-cursor... > >Paren mode is paren > >Loading paren...done > >Loading paren... > >Loading big-menubar...done > >Loading big-menubar... > >Loading jnm-keybdmap...done > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 17:24:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA31421; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:24:03 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA31382; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:23:20 -0500 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 163lxW-000296-07; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:23:10 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.3.150]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 163lxW-0EdzUWC; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:23:10 +0100 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner), xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Old Win32 XEmacs on the web page References: <200111132057.MAA24879@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 102 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: >> I can only guess you want this binary to be pulled off the disk? Darryl> No, but: Darryl> * The poster in comp.xemacs said that he installed Darryl> "21.1.9" (the older ones available are Darryl> "21.1.14/21.1.13", according to the web page). He could Darryl> be wrong, but one of the XEmacs web pages may have a Darryl> stray pointer to "21.1.9" somewhere. My latest linklint log files suggest otherwise. Darryl> * The web page says that older versions ("21.1.14/21.1.13") can be Darryl> installed, but Andy said (yesterday) that can no longer Darryl> be done via the netinstaller. Yes, I heard the yesterday. Only Andy can provide more background on this. I can't update the website for Andy's data. Darryl> * Have the web sites changed in the last week or so? The XEmacs web site is perpetually changing. xemacs-patches documents all changes. Darryl> Inside my company, I've been handling a complaint about Darryl> cygwin XEmacs under Win98. They've been complaining Darryl> about how a setup.exe "obtained from xemacs.org" (1) Darryl> says that it's out-of-date, and (2) screws up the XEmacs Darryl> desktop shortcut by putting command.com into the Darryl> shortcut (AFAICT, setup.exe used to add command.com to Darryl> the shortcut, but no longer does so). Please get more info from the complainer. Perhaps they used any binaries from the ftp site. These are not advertised via the website AFAICT. Perhaps we should remove stuff from 1999? /ftp@ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/tux/xemacs/binaries/cygwin32: drwxrwsr-x 2 jason xemacadm 4096 Oct 29 23:08 . drwxrwsr-x 12 jason xemacadm 4096 Oct 29 23:13 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 jason xemacadm 699 Feb 5 2001 README.MD5SUM -rw-r--r-- 1 xemacs xemacadm 4070 Oct 6 2000 README.i686-pc-cygwin32-1.x -rw-rw-r-- 1 jason xemacadm 4129 Jul 6 1999 README.i686-pc-cygwin32-b19 -rw-rw-r-- 1 jason xemacadm 4284 Jul 6 1999 README.i686-pc-cygwin32-b19-X -rw-rw-r-- 1 jason xemacadm 4319 Jul 6 1999 README.i686-pc-cygwin32-b20 -rw-rw-r-- 1 jason xemacadm 4271 Jul 6 1999 README.i686-pc-cygwin32-b20-X -rw-rw-r-- 1 jason xemacadm 8395938 Jul 6 1999 xemacs-21.1.3-i686-pc-cygwin32-b19-X.tar.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 jason xemacadm 8037327 Jul 6 1999 xemacs-21.1.3-i686-pc-cygwin32-b19.tar.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 jason xemacadm 9981132 Sep 20 1999 xemacs-21.1.3-i686-pc-cygwin32-b20.1-X.tar.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 jason xemacadm 9372581 Sep 20 1999 xemacs-21.1.3-i686-pc-cygwin32-b20.1.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 slb xemacadm 7559692 Apr 19 2001 xemacs-i686-pc-cygwin-21.4.0.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 slb xemacadm 7863268 May 17 23:01 xemacs-i686-pc-cygwin-21.4.3.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 slb xemacadm 7701099 Oct 29 23:08 xemacs-i686-pc-cygwin-21.4.5.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 xemacs xemacadm 6917126 Jan 9 2001 xemacs-i686-pc-cygwin32-21.1.13.tar.gz Darryl> Last Wednesday or Thursday, I downloaded the (then) Darryl> latest setup.exe, and installed XEmacs (cygwin) under Darryl> Win98; command.com was not added to the shortcut, and Darryl> the shortcut worked fine. Everything worked fine for Darryl> me, and so I'm at a loss why others are having problems. Please refer any complainers to the XEmacs website download area. The data you got is too vague to be persued any further. I am always happy to hear about problems with the website though. Any error you find, please just use the feedback link in at the bottom of any page: Maintained by webmaster@xemacs.org -------------------- I have been frustrated with many websites which don't even give you any clue how to reach their webmaster, so I made sure feedback can easily be provided for every single page of http://www.xemacs.org and any of its mirrors. Best regards, Adrian Darryl> -- Darryl> Darryl Okahata Darryl> darrylo@soco.agilent.com Darryl> DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not Darryl> constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or Darryl> of the little green men that have been following him all day. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 17:29:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA31791; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:29:01 -0500 Received: from fe090.worldonline.dk (fe090.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.152]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA31728 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:28:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 12350 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2001 22:28:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jnm.localhost) (213.237.52.202) by fe090.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 13 Nov 2001 22:28:15 -0000 To: Andy Piper Cc: "Jeppe N. Madsen" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113121000.00b77b60@san-francisco.beasys.com> From: "Jeppe N. Madsen" Date: 13 Nov 2001 23:28:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113121000.00b77b60@san-francisco.beasys.com> Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (Windows)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper writes: > Yes, I see this also. Unfortunately my main development environment > doesn't have a mousewheel and my secondary development environment has > a Logitech mouse which does cause the problem. I only see the problem > when using a icrosoft mouse. I assume that the microsoft mouse driver > is generating wheel events directly or something. If I was able to > reproduce this in my dev environment I could probably fix it. > Yes, I'm using an MS mouse (with stock W2k mouse driver) I don't know the priority of this bug but if it's feasible, I could try to have a look. I'll need some guidance as where to look since I've never looked at the internals of xemacs and not really used the cygwin development tools (but do have lots of experience with c/c++ app development on windows :-). Let me know what you think.... rgds Jeppe [...] From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 17:32:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA31994; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:32:01 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA31958; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:31:21 -0500 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 163m5Q-000296-01; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:31:20 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.3.150]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 163m5B-1I0gHwC; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:31:05 +0100 To: "Jared Brown" Cc: Subject: Re: XEmacs help References: <002f01c16c86$acd14d60$60514ac7@c1294600a> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jared" == Jared Brown writes: Jared> Hi. My name is Jared Brown, and I'm an XEmacs user. Up Jared> until this week, XEmacs was working fine for me. I have Jared> Microsoft Windows XP, and I'm using XEmacs to program in Jared> Scheme. Anyway, for some reason now, when I run xemacs.exe Jared> (under XEmacs 21.4), nothing happens. It's so odd. There What version of XEmacs exactly did you install? 21.4.4 or 21.4.5? cygwin or native? Jared> are no error messages, no warnings, nothing. I don't even Jared> think a new process begins. Is there a workaround or a Jared> patch? Have you seen or heard of this before? Yes, I replied to you yesterday. This is an FAQ, which should be fixed for 21.4.5. Please try starting XEmacs as follows from a cmd box and send us any output: xemacs -q -no-site-file -debug-paths Hope this helps, Adrian Jared> Thanks! Jared> Jared -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 17:34:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA32126; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:34:02 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA31999 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:32:02 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fADMVwb25444; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001283wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.114]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03906; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:31:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113142605.00b7d5b0@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:26:31 -0800 To: "Jeppe N. Madsen" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel Cc: "Jeppe N. Madsen" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113121000.00b77b60@san-francisco.beasys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011113121000.00b77b60@san-francisco.beasys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 11:28 PM 11/13/01 +0100, Jeppe N. Madsen wrote: >Yes, I'm using an MS mouse (with stock W2k mouse driver) > >I don't know the priority of this bug but if it's feasible, I could >try to have a look. I'll need some guidance as where to look since >I've never looked at the internals of xemacs and not really used the >cygwin development tools (but do have lots of experience with c/c++ >app development on windows :-). Let me know what you think.... Need a stack trace of where its stuck. Under cygwin this is pretty hard unless they have improved gdb support recently. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 17:44:19 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00450; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:44:06 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00429 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:43:31 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE1B2CE4 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:43:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2B914E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:43:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id OAA26796 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:43:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111132243.OAA26796@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Glyph example documentation Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 09 Nov 2001 18:22:25 PST." <200111100222.SAA23995@mina.soco.agilent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:43:27 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Here is the latest draft. It's largely the same as before, but with some of Stephen's suggestions applied. Official patches will follow in a day or two if no objections are found. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. =============================================================================== Glyph Examples ============== For many applications, displaying graphics is a simple process: you create a glyph, and then you insert it into a buffer. The easiest way to create a glyph is to use a file that contains a graphical image, such as a JPEG, TIFF, or PNG file: ;; Create a glyph from a JPEG file: (setq foo (make-glyph [jpeg :file "/tmp/file1.jpg"])) ;; Create a glyph from a XPM file: (setq foo (make-glyph [xpm :file "/tmp/file2.xpm"])) ;; Create a glyph from a PNG file: (setq foo (make-glyph [png :file "/tmp/file3.png"])) ;; Create a glyph from a TIFF file: (setq foo (make-glyph [tiff :file "/tmp/file4.tiff"])) The parameters passed to `make-glyph' are called "Image Specifiers", and can handle more image types than those shown above. You can also put the raw image data into a string (e.g., if you put the contents of a JPEG file into a string), and use that to create a glyph. *Note Image Specifiers::, for more information. *Caution*: In order for XEmacs to read a particular graphics file format, support for that format must have been compiled into XEmacs. It's possible, although somewhat unlikely, for XEmacs to have been compiled without support for any of the various graphics file formats. To see what graphics formats your particular version of XEmacs supports, use `M-x describe-installation'. To programmatically query whether or not a particular file format is supported, you can use the `featurep' function, with one of: `gif', `tiff', `jpeg', `xpm', `xbm', `png', or `xface'. *Note Image Specifiers:: for an up-to-date list. Example: ;; Returns `t' if TIFF is supported: (featurep 'tiff) Another example is: ;; Returns a list of `t' or `nil', depending on whether or not the ;; corresponding feature is supported: (mapcar #'(lambda (format-symbol) (featurep format-symbol)) '(gif tiff jpeg xpm png)) Once you have a glyph, you can then insert it into a buffer. Example: ;; Use this function to insert a glyph at the left edge of point in the ;; current buffer. Any existing glyph at this location is replaced. (defun insert-glyph (gl) "Insert a glyph at the left edge of point." (let ( (prop 'myimage) ;; myimage is an arbitrary name, chosen ;; to (hopefully) not conflict with any ;; other properties. Change it if ;; necessary. extent ) ;; First, check to see if one of our extents already exists at ;; point. For ease-of-programming, we are creating and using our ;; own extents (multiple extents are allowed to exist/overlap at the ;; same point, and it's quite possible for other applications to ;; embed extents in the current buffer without your knowledge). ;; Basically, if an extent, with the property stored in "prop", ;; exists at point, we assume that it is one of ours, and we re-use ;; it (this is why it is important for the property stored in "prop" ;; to be unique, and only used by us). (if (not (setq extent (extent-at (point) (current-buffer) prop))) (progn ;; If an extent does not already exist, create a zero-length ;; extent, and give it our special property. (setq extent (make-extent (point) (point) (current-buffer))) (set-extent-property extent prop t) )) ;; Display the glyph by storing it as the extent's "begin-glyph". (set-extent-property extent 'begin-glyph gl) )) ;; You can then use this function like: (insert-glyph (make-glyph [jpeg :file "/tmp/file1.jpg"])) ;; This will insert the glyph at point. ;; Here's an example of how to insert two glyphs side-by-side, at point ;; (using the above code): (progn (insert-glyph (make-glyph [jpeg :file "/tmp/file1.jpg"])) ;; Create a new extent at point. We can't simply call "insert-glyph", ;; as "insert-glyph" will simply replace the first glyph with the ;; second. (setq extent (make-extent (point) (point) (current-buffer))) ;; Here, we're only setting the 'myimage property in case we need ;; to later identify/locate/reuse this particular extent. (set-extent-property extent 'myimage t) (set-extent-property extent 'begin-glyph (make-glyph [jpeg :file "/tmp/file2.jpg"])) ) Here are the gory details: * Glyphs are displayed by attaching them to extents (see *Note Extents::), either to the beginning or the end of extents. Note that extents can be used for many things, and not just for displaying images (although, in the above example, we are creating our own extent for the sole purpose of displaying an image). Also, note that multiple extents are allowed to exist at the same position, and they can overlap. * Glyphs are often displayed inside the text area (alongside text). This is the default. Although glyphs can also be displayed in the margins, how to do this will not be described here. For more information on this, see *Note Annotation Basics:: (look for information on "layout types") and *Note Extent Properties:: (look for `begin-glyph-layout' and `end-glyph-layout'). * The easiest way to insert a glyph into text is to create a zero-length extent at the point where you want the glyph to appear. Note that zero-length extents are attached to the character to the right of the extent; deleting this character will also delete the extent. * It's often a good idea to assign a unique property to the newly-created extent, in case you later want to locate it, and replace any existing glyph with a different one (or just delete the existing one). In the above example, we are using "myimage" as our (hopefully) unique property name. If you need to locate all of the extents, you'll have to use functions like `extent-list' or `next-extent', or provide additional parameters to the `extent-at' function. Assigning a unique property to the extent makes it easy to locate your extents; for example, `extent-list' can return only those extents with a particular property. *Note Finding Extents::, and *Note Mapping Over Extents::, for more information. * Glyphs are displayed by assigning then to the `begin-glyph' or `end-glyph' property of the extent. For zero-length extents, it doesn't really matter if you assign the glyph to the `begin-glyph' or `end-glyph' property, as they are both at the same location; however, for non-zero-length extents (extents that cover one or more characters of text), it does matter which one you use. Assigning `nil' to the `begin-glyph' or `end-glyph' property will delete any existing glyph. In this case, you may also want to delete the extent, assuming that the extent is used for no other purpose. * If you happen to insert two glyphs, side-by-side, note that the example `insert-glyph' function will have trouble, if it's again used at the same point (it can only locate one of the two extents). *Note Finding Extents::, and *Note Mapping Over Extents::, for more information on locating extents in a buffer. * Among other things, glyphs provide a way of displaying graphics alongside text. Note, however, that glyphs only provide a way of displaying graphics; glyphs are not actually part of the text, and are only displayed alongside the text. If you save the text in the buffer, the graphics are not saved. The low-level glyph code does not provide a way of saving graphics with the text. If you need to save graphics and text, you have to write your own code to do this, and this topic is outside the scope of this discussion. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:04:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA01896; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:04:25 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA01788 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:03:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 1736 invoked by uid 50); 13 Nov 2001 23:03:28 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 1675 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2001 23:03:27 -0000 Received: from dialupa129.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.113.129) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2001 23:03:27 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF1A6EC.FA44E76B@666.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:04:12 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org CC: xemacs-news@xemacs.org, ben@xemacs.org, XEmacs Patches List Subject: Re: behavior of localized truncate-partial-width-windows References: <86y9le8zc0.wl@eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp> <87eln45va0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , this is a bug in xemacs. there's a lot of precedent regarding the interpretation of "buffer-local" wrt redisplay variables. in general, yes, things that control redisplay should be specifiers, but it may not be worth changing here. the patch to fix this is easy [untested]: src/ChangeLog addition: 2001-11-13 Ben Wing * window.c: * window.c (window_truncation_on): * window.c (syms_of_window): truncate-partial-width-windows should respect the buffer being displayed, like other redisplay vars. working Patch (bash -ci "cvs-diff -cvs-command=crw -no-changelog src/window.c"): Index: src/window.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/CVSroot/XEmacs/xemacs/src/window.c,v retrieving revision 1.58 diff -u -r1.58 window.c --- src/window.c 20 Sep 2001 06:29:17 -0000 1.58 +++ src/window.c 13 Nov 2001 22:59:23 -0000 @@ -123,6 +123,8 @@ /* List of freed window configurations with 1 - 10 windows. */ static Lisp_Object Vwindow_configuration_free_list[10]; +Lisp_Object Qtruncate_partial_width_windows; + #define SET_LAST_MODIFIED(w, cache_too) \ do { \ (w)->last_modified[CURRENT_DISP] = Qzero; \ @@ -756,7 +758,8 @@ /* If truncate_partial_width_windows is true and the window is not the full width of the frame it is truncated. */ - if (truncate_partial_width_windows + if (!NILP (symbol_value_in_buffer (Qtruncate_partial_width_windows, + w->buffer)) && !(window_is_leftmost (w) && window_is_rightmost (w))) return 1; @@ -6146,6 +6149,8 @@ /* Qother in general.c */ #endif + DEFSYMBOL (Qtruncate_partial_width_windows); + DEFSUBR (Fselected_window); DEFSUBR (Flast_nonminibuf_window); DEFSUBR (Fminibuffer_window); "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > Changing this would require internal changes. Followups to > xemacs-beta. > > >>>>> "Yoichi" == Yoichi NAKAYAMA writes: > > Yoichi> (make-local-variable 'truncate-partial-width-windows) > Yoichi> (setq truncate-partial-width-windows nil) > > Yoichi> on buffer B. Then it is possible to control truncation in > Yoichi> buffer B by truncate-lines, I thought. > > Yoichi> With GNU Emacs, it is possible regardless of the position > Yoichi> of cursor. But on XEmacs, it shows different behavior. > > [I.e., in XEmacs t-p-w-w gets the value for the current buffer, so > when the cursor is in B, truncate-lines rules, when it is not, t-p-w-w > in the other buffer determines whether truncate-lines has an effect or > not.] > > I think the GNU behavior (and the traditional behavior of > truncate-lines, for that matter) is an abuse of the term > "buffer-local", although the GNU behavior is desirable in these cases. > The current buffer should determine the value of a buffer-local > variable in Lisp, not the current focus of the redisplay engine. > > Ben? Should these variables be specifiers? Can we reasonably draw > the distinction that local variables used to control redisplay should > be specifiers, and buffer-locals should be used to control Lisp? > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:11:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02547; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:11:02 -0500 Received: from spider.crnet.com (spider.crnet.com [208.242.241.92]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02506 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:10:11 -0500 Received: from mondas (dante.limolink.com [207.191.205.200]) by spider.crnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA22819; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:11:37 -0600 Message-ID: <000d01c16c98$98e3f6b0$6501a8c0@mondas> From: "James N. Potts" To: , "Andy Piper" References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113121000.00b77b60@san-francisco.beasys.com> <02f701c16c90$67650a50$6501a8c0@mondas> Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:11:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I wasn't able to get anything useful out of the debugger. When xemacs stopped responding, I tried pausing the execution, but the call stack just showed the following NTDLL! 77f820f0() 8b000000() which doesn't look too interesting. Any suggestions? -Jim Potts ----- Original Message ----- From: "James N. Potts" To: ; "Andy Piper" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel > Duplicated under win32 native. > > With very incomplete testing, it seems to occur when the mouse wheel is > clicked while rapidly scrolling. Ie, I wasn't able to get a freeze when I > was being very careful not to click. > > I'm going to try it under a debugger, and try to see where it hangs. > > -Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Piper" > To: "Jeppe N. Madsen" ; > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:12 PM > Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel > > > > Yes, I see this also. Unfortunately my main development environment > doesn't > > have a mousewheel and my secondary development environment has a > Logitech > > mouse which does cause the problem. I only see the problem when using a > > icrosoft mouse. I assume that the microsoft mouse driver is generating > > wheel events directly or something. If I was able to reproduce this in > my > > dev environment I could probably fix it. > > > > andy > > > > At 02:21 PM 11/13/01 -0500, Jeppe N. Madsen wrote: > > >This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, > > > not to your local site managers!! > > >Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have > > >translators to read other languages for them. > > > > > > > > >Please describe as succinctly as possible: > > > - What happened. > > > - What you thought should have happened. > > > - Precisely what you were doing at the time. > > > > > >Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. > > >================================================================ > > >Dear Bug Team! > > > > > >Occasionally, xemacs/cygwin hangs when using the mouse wheel. It's not > > >clear when this happens, but it seems to be more often when flyspell > > >is active. On my machine I can always reproduce as follows: > > > > > >- Start xemacs -no-init-file -vanilla > > >- Load a largish text file > > >- Start juggling quickly back & forth with the mouse wheel, scrolling > the > > >document backwards/forwards > > >- Within a few seconds xemacs hangs. Sometimes CPU usage goes to 100% > > >but this is not consistent > > > > > >Btw, this was also a problem with 21.4.3 > > > > > >rgds > > >Jeppe > > > > > > > > >================================================================ > > > > > >System Info to help track down your bug: > > >--------------------------------------- > > > > > >uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686 > unknown > > > > > >./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' > > >'--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' > > >'--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' > > > > > > > > >XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service (Windows)" configured for > `i686-pc-cygwin'. > > > > > > > > >Compilation / Installation: > > > Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4 > > > Installation prefix: /usr/local > > > Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' > > > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > > > Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/../include/noX > > > -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline > > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith > > > Relocating allocator for buffers: no > > > GNU version of malloc: yes > > > > > >Window System: > > > Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. > > > Using MS-Windows menubars. > > > Using MS-Windows scrollbars. > > > Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. > > > Using MS-Windows native widgets. > > > Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). > > > - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. > > > > > >TTY: > > > Compiling in support for ncurses. > > > > > >Images: > > > Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > > > Compiling in support for XPM images. > > > Compiling in support for PNG images. > > > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > > > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > > > Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. > > > > > >Sound: > > > Compiling in support for sound (native). > > > > > >Databases: > > > Compiling in support 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(dictionary :version 1.0 :type regular) > > > (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) > > > (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) > > > (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) > > > (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) > > > (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) > > > (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) > > > (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) > > > (build :version 1.02 :type regular) > > > (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) > > > (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) > > > (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) > > > (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) > > > (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) > > > > > > > > >Features: > > >-------- > > > > > >(mail-abbrevs flyspell ispell xemacsbug shadow sendmail font > > >disp-table blink-cursor paren blink-paren big-menubar jde executable > > >jde-package jde-import jde-which-method jde-stat jde-javadoc > > >jde-javadoc-gen jde-java-font-lock jde-bug jde-dbs jde-dbo jde-help > > >jde-wiz jde-widgets tree-widget jde-complete beanshell browse-url > > >jde-gen tempo jde-make compile jde-run jde-db jde-parse jde-imenu > > >regexp-opt semantic-imenu jde-java-grammar semantic-java eieio avltree > > >stack-m elib-node semantic-ctxt semantic-bnf semantic-sb speedbar > > >sb-image dframe semantic-util assoc semantic working gud tags etags > > >comint ring jde-compile cus-edit cus-load semantic-load func-menu > > >cua-mode backup-dir view-less view efs-ovwrt default-dir recent-files > > >redo info font-lock cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles > > >cc-langs cc-vars wid-edit cc-menus imenu cc-defs face-list advice > > >advice-preload color-theme edmacro cus-face tex-site tex-mik mwheel > > >footnote zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads > > >xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads > > >viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads > > >vc-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads > > >time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads > > >texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads > > >speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads > > >slider-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads > > >scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads > > >ps-print-nomule-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads > > >pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads > > >misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads > > >mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads > > >ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads > > >hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads > > >games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads > > >forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads > > >eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads > > >eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads > > >ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads > > >debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads > > >calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads > > >bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads > > >Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds > > >gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer > > >auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete > > >help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start > > >custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote > > >very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames > > >tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast > > >network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar > > >dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type > > >cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) > > > > > > > > >Recent keystrokes: > > >----------------- > > > > > >M-x r e p o r t TAB x e TAB RET > > > > > > > > >Recent messages (most recent first): > > >----------------------------------- > > > > > >Loading mail-abbrevs...done > > >Loading mail-abbrevs... > > >Welcome to flyspell. Use M-tab or Mouse-2 to correct words. > > >Starting new Ispell process... > > >(Next local Ispell command will use american dictionary) > > >(Next local Ispell command will use american dictionary) > > >Loading flyspell...done > > >Loading flyspell... > > >Loading xemacsbug...done > > >Loading xemacsbug... > > >Loading font...done > > >Loading font... > > >Loading blink-cursor...done > > >Loading blink-cursor... > > >Paren mode is paren > > >Loading paren...done > > >Loading paren... > > >Loading big-menubar...done > > >Loading big-menubar... > > >Loading jnm-keybdmap...done > > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:13:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02761; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:13:09 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA02726 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:12:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 25396 invoked by uid 50); 13 Nov 2001 23:12:58 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 25358 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2001 23:12:57 -0000 Received: from dialupa129.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.113.129) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2001 23:12:57 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF1A926.91706B3C@666.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:13:42 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: Kyle Jones , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 21.1.4-mule: auto save doubles escape chars References: <9ro19k$eut@ice.wonderworks.com> <87ofmmljdp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BEF1F1C.9E907534@666.com> <15344.34269.806248.883487@ice.wonderworks.com> <87r8r3xeyz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > >>>>> "Kyle" == Kyle Jones writes: > > Kyle> Ben Wing writes: > >> the idea was that escape-quoted should be used *everywhere*. > >> this is the only way of guaranteeing that auto-save files > >> actually restore exactly what was in the buffer -- or at the > > But you can't do what the user wants anyway, since typically the > buffer changes between the autosave and the crash. So it's a question > of how much work does the user have to do to recover the exact state > he was in when he lost the buffer. External utilities as Kyle > mentions below can be very helpful. > > >>> very least, we do NOT want to be guessing the encoding of an > >>> auto-save file. > > Kyle> I'm not convinced that this is the best approach. MULE is > Kyle> willing to guess the coding system when you first visit a > Kyle> file. I don't see that situation at auto-save recovery time > Kyle> is any different. > > But the user may not have accepted the guess the first time. What do > you do then? IIRC recover-file does not take a coding system > argument. We need to do something about that. > > Kyle> If you can accurately guess the coding sstem at find-file > Kyle> time, you should be able to guess it at file recovery time. > > We can't manage such accuracy. I use C-u C-x C-f a fair amount. > > However, you can take a hint from the coding-system that the user > actually used to visit the file. (This is the most common case; I > don't think I've ever invoked recover-file anywhere but from the VM > toolbar). It's nearly certain that that corresponds to the coding > system in force when the buffer was lost, and therefore auto-saving in > the current coding system should do the right thing nearly 100% of the > time. maybe. however, saving in many coding systems will positively lose data in many situations. if `binary', all extended chars will be lost. if `iso-2022', many control chars will be lost. a reasonable thing to implement would be to check when a file is about to be saved out if data will be lost, and prompt for a different coding system. beginning users may well get the coding system wrong, and it's annoying for auto-save to unconditionally lose data. also, in your scheme we'd have to save the coding system in the auto-save file. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:29:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA03807; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:29:02 -0500 Received: from badger.barsook.com (badger.barsook.com [208.47.211.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA03721 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:28:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 11646 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Nov 2001 23:28:03 -0000 To: Meino Christian Cramer , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> <15345.26223.842179.900821@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> From: Gleb Arshinov Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:28:03 -0800 In-Reply-To: <15345.26223.842179.900821@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> (giacomo boffi's message of "Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:29:03 +0100") Message-ID: <86zo5qxncs.fsf@badger.barsook.com> Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef, i386-debian-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "giacomo" == giacomo boffi writes: giacomo> speaking of adobe-courier, italic fonts are construed giacomo> on the fly by the X server (ugliness!), oblique fonts are giacomo> hand-tuned bitmapped fonts, too mauch better than italics Yup. Meino, try setting *try-oblique-before-italic-fonts* Gleb From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:24:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA03510; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:24:03 -0500 Received: from exchange.corp.voyanttech.com (v171.voyanttech.com [198.76.24.171]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA03419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:23:35 -0500 Received: from MBUTL-PC.voyanttech.com ([10.33.32.13]) by exchange.corp.voyanttech.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:23:34 -0700 From: To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Function make-frame fails. XEmacs 21.4.5 Windows 2000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2001 23:23:34.0389 (UTC) FILETIME=[36D6BA50:01C16C9A] Date: 13 Nov 2001 16:23:34 -0700 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! When I attempt to use make-frame (C-x 5 2) the following message appears in the minibuffer: Wrong type argument: integerp, (46) Thanks, Marc (marc.butler@voyanttech.com) ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.5 \"Civil Service (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.5\". Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using minimal tagbits. Using indexed lrecord implementation. Using portable dumper. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- nil Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.05 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.37 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) (viper :version 1.26 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.13 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.16 :type regular) (vc :version 1.28 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.29 :type regular) (time :version 1.11 :type regular) (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.32 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.18 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.21 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.13 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.11 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.12 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.23 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) (ps-print-nomule :version 1.05 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .41 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.55 :type regular) (pc :version 1.2 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.25 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.22 :type single-file) (misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.13 :type regular) (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.09 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) (jde :version 1.3 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.23 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.19 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.23 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.16 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.57 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.12 :type regular) (games :version 1.13 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (forms :version 1.13 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.13 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.34 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.01 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.08 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.01 :type regular) (eicq :version 1.05 :type regular) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.69 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.31 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.0 :type regular) (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.02 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Features: -------- (cus-edit cus-load wid-edit alist mswindows-font-menu font-menu mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail view-less view hyper-apropos info jka-compr ediff-merg ediff-diff ediff-tbar ediff-wind ediff-help ediff-util ediff-mult ediff-init ediff efs-cu paren blink-paren doxygen backup-dir font-lock cus-face zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-nomule-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows toolbar native-sound scrollbar network-streams subprocesses menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user button1 button1up button1 button1up C-/ C-/ C-x 5 2 button1 button1up M-w mi sc-user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Wrong type argument: integerp, (46) No further undo information Wrong type argument: integerp, (46) Loading cus-edit...done Loading customization dependencies...done Loading customization dependencies... Loading cus-edit... Getting list of fonts from server... done. Loading alist...done Loading alist... Loading msw-font-menu...done Loading msw-font-menu... Getting list of fonts from server... Loading font-menu...done Loading font-menu... Wrong type argument: integerp, (46) Attempt to delete the only frame Wrong type argument: integerp, (46) Not over a window. Wrong type argument: integerp, (46) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:38:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04708; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:38:01 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04486 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:36:03 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF48E140A; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:36:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4160151D; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:36:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id PAA27538; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:36:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111132336.PAA27538@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: "James N. Potts" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, "Andy Piper" Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:11:58 CST." <000d01c16c98$98e3f6b0$6501a8c0@mondas> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:35:59 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "James N. Potts" wrote: > I wasn't able to get anything useful out of the debugger. When xemacs > stopped responding, I tried pausing the execution, but the call stack just > showed the following > NTDLL! 77f820f0() > 8b000000() > which doesn't look too interesting. I don't know what to do, but I do have some comments: * Win32 XEmacs uses threads. Since you've managed to reproduce it under Win32 native, I assume that you're using VC++; if so, you should be able to view the other threads, which should hopefully have more useful stack traces. * If you can, install the Windows debug symbols (you have to download them from Microsoft's web site, and finding the right ones can be a pain); if done, this will display meaningful function names instead of "NTDLL! 77f820f0()". The download for the symbols tends to be ungodly enormous, however (the NT 4.0 SP6/128-bit download is something like 55MB). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:36:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04482; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:36:02 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA04083 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:32:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 74815 invoked by uid 50); 13 Nov 2001 23:32:30 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 74759 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2001 23:32:29 -0000 Received: from dialupa129.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.113.129) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2001 23:32:29 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF1ADBA.3929C27C@666.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:33:14 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Piper CC: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 References: <000401c16b10$554f8c90$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , just look at earlier articles in the thread and stephen says exactly how to reproduce. Andy Piper wrote: > > Does anyone have a test case for the bug? > > andy > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org > > [mailto:xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Ben Wing > > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 4:10 PM > > To: Stephen J. Turnbull > > Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Andy Piper > > Subject: Re: live-icon and XEmacs 21.4.5 > > > > > > > > > > "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing writes: > > > > > > Ben> i don't see extra specs. > > > > > > What I'm referring to is the fact that my understanding was that (1) > > > we clear out all the specs that match the tagset, then (2) we prepend > > > the new spec. > > > > there's some confusion here. your sentences above describe changing the > > specifiers ... > > > > That would imply that the :file spec from the fallback > > > should not be picked up and used in preference to the :data spec which > > > the user (via live-icon) has specified. But that seems to be what's > > > happening. > > > > ... but these describe the process of instantiation. these are > > different. > > "clear out all the specs that match the tagset" occurs only in > > the same locale; > > if i add a global spec that's restricted to `mswindows', it makes > > no sense to > > clear out buffer-local specs also restricted to `mswindows'. > > > > furthermore, fallback specs are never changed -- that's the > > nature of fallback. > > > > but there does appear to be a bug in the instantiation process, > > as i said. this > > may be related to andy's widget changes. in particular, andy > > added a bunch of > > caches of various sorts, and it's quite possible that a cache > > isn't getting > > properly cleared. > > > > andy, could you take a look? > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I'm just confused. Specifiers can be pretty confusing. > > > > > > -- > > > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences > http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 > JAPAN > > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > > ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:40:19 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04923; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:40:14 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04576 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:37:08 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fADNb5b28319; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001283wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.114]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19998; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:37:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113153130.00ba1a80@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:31:41 -0800 To: "James N. Potts" , From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel In-Reply-To: <000d01c16c98$98e3f6b0$6501a8c0@mondas> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113121000.00b77b60@san-francisco.beasys.com> <02f701c16c90$67650a50$6501a8c0@mondas> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 05:11 PM 11/13/01 -0600, James N. Potts wrote: >I wasn't able to get anything useful out of the debugger. When xemacs >stopped responding, I tried pausing the execution, but the call stack just >showed the following > NTDLL! 77f820f0() > 8b000000() >which doesn't look too interesting. Presumably you've built with debug on? andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:43:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05083; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:43:01 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05054 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:42:46 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fADNgbb28573; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001283wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.114]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21098; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:42:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011113153605.00b7b650@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:37:12 -0800 To: Darryl Okahata , "James N. Potts" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: <200111132336.PAA27538@mina.soco.agilent.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 03:35 PM 11/13/01 -0800, Darryl Okahata wrote: >* If you can, install the Windows debug symbols (you have to download > them from Microsoft's web site, and finding the right ones can be a > pain); if done, this will display meaningful function names instead of > "NTDLL! 77f820f0()". The download for the symbols tends to be ungodly > enormous, however (the NT 4.0 SP6/128-bit download is something like > 55MB). I though these were provided in MSVC service packs? Nothing can be bigger than the oracle server download :) andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 18:49:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05515; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:49:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05502 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:48:55 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163nHR-0004Pa-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:47:49 +0900 To: John Paul Wallington Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: fix for gtk-faces.el References: <87n11qla3c.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 14 Nov 2001 08:47:49 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87n11qla3c.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Message-ID: <87itcew7ve.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "jpw" == John Paul Wallington writes: jpw> I have a fix for XEmacs 21.4.5. When I built --with-gtk jpw> default faces weren't setup. Thanks for the analysis and proposed fix. I will ... eventually :-( ... get to this. You can speed things up by supplying a patch with ChangeLog to the proper channel. Preferred format for ChangeLog entry, see the ChangeLog for examples. Editing the ChangeLog directly and diff'ing works fine. But please don't send ordinary diffs or regular context diffs, ChangeLogs change so they don't apply. diff -U 0 format is wonderful, though. Patches should be context diffs, preferably diff -u format. Do the diff from the top source directory if convenient (ie, the files should appaer as lisp/ChangeLog and lisp/gtk-faces.el in the diff index lines). Send the patch to xemacs-patches@xemacs.org. Again, many thanks for your work. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 19:00:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA06237; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:00:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06205 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:59:52 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163nSC-0004Pv-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:58:56 +0900 To: Meino Christian Cramer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 14 Nov 2001 08:58:56 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> Message-ID: <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Shooting in the dark here: >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: M-x set-face-font italic -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1"" set-face-font should not have a problem setting this, but it is true that Custom probably would not be able to in any event, because it treats the 4 default faces (default, italic, bold, bold-italic) specially. It would probably refuse to give you bold-italic for the italic font. after switching to tex-mode (which activates AUC-TeX). Are you sure AUC-TeX uses the 'italic face? Just because the font you see is italic doesn't mean the face is 'italic. The face could be 'tex-emph or something like that. As other posters suggested, try an oblique face or the try-oblique-before-italic-fonts variable. However, the latter will not affect set-face-font which is a very low-level utility. Thanks for following up! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 19:33:48 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA08239; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:33:06 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA08212 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:32:25 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D912D83; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:32:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD3B526; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:32:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id QAA28161; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:32:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111140032.QAA28161@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Andy Piper Cc: "James N. Potts" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Xemacs/cygwin hangs using mouse wheel Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:37:12 PST." <4.3.2.7.2.20011113153605.00b7b650@san-francisco.beasys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:32:21 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper wrote: > I though these were provided in MSVC service packs? I've never gotten them in the MSVC service packs (although it's been a LONG time since I've installed one, and so newer ones might include them). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. Service. 1. n. Bug fix, as in "Service Pack". 2. v.t. Impregnate, as in "the stallion serviced the mare". From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 22:18:51 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA16008; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:18:10 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA15974; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:16:59 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163qWr-0004Zf-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:15:57 +0900 To: Ben Wing Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Kyle Jones , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 21.1.4-mule: auto save doubles escape chars References: <9ro19k$eut@ice.wonderworks.com> <87ofmmljdp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BEF1F1C.9E907534@666.com> <15344.34269.806248.883487@ice.wonderworks.com> <87r8r3xeyz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BF1A926.91706B3C@666.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 14 Nov 2001 12:15:57 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3BF1A926.91706B3C@666.com> Message-ID: <87ofm6ujo2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , What I'm leaning toward for 21.4 is Kyle's patch plus a charset sanity check, preferably at about the level of write-region-internal (or wherever it will signal on users trying to save with incompatible coding systems too). Rationale: >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing writes: Ben> maybe. however, saving in many coding systems will Ben> positively lose data in many situations. Agreed. _But the user is just about to shoot himself in the foot anyway._ C-x C-s doesn't do the check you suggest, although it should. You could say "well, that's a reason to have more accuracy in the autosave" but oops! C-x C-s just deleted the autosave. Ben> also, in your scheme we'd have to save the coding system in Ben> the auto-save file. I don't see why an auto-save should have any differences from what would be produced by save-buffer at that point. The main issue AFAICT would be adding incompatible characters after the last save-buffer, when a Mule-aware user would explicitly fix the coding system. This would be taken care of by adding the pre-save check. Yes, users will often get this wrong until we provide better support for them. (For a start, suggest escape-quoted "if you don't know.") But sometimes they'll get it right, which is better than the current situation where they silently get a file full of "~" on save-buffer, and escape-quoted (which gets recovered incorrectly in VM) in auto-saves. Unless there are applications that do recover-file without user intervention. It's not obvious to me that we should attempt to support that; such an application really should be providing for its own needs. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 23:07:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA18530; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:07:03 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn336.s.netic.de [212.9.163.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA18493; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:06:26 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 163rHq-0000Aj-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 05:04:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 05:04:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011114.050429.730553731.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: stephen@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: 14 Nov 2001 08:58:56 +0900 Message-ID: <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Hi Stephen.... ...making some light... ;-) Thank you for your reply ! :o) I did the following test to ensure, that I am using the correct face: I changed the background color for "italic" and the chnages were also present in AUC-TeX using italics. So I /think/ ( == dont know for sure ) it is the correct thing to change. set-face-font seems to refuse to accept ANY change for the italic face, regardless, whether I am using oblique fonts or something else. The problem seems not to be the input (font-string), but something "inside" which refuses to change... I set the appropiate variable as described: Again no change. I am not able to set the italic face to anything else than that what seems to be "burned in" in XEmacs. Kinda CD-ROM, which get written while compiling XEmacs. I am using XFree86 4.10 on an Athlon based PC with linux 2.4.13ac8. I am using IceWM, no session manager or management. keep hacking the right site of life ! :-) Meino stephen> Shooting in the dark here: stephen> stephen> >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: stephen> stephen> M-x set-face-font italic -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1"" stephen> stephen> set-face-font should not have a problem setting this, but it is true stephen> that Custom probably would not be able to in any event, because it stephen> treats the 4 default faces (default, italic, bold, bold-italic) stephen> specially. It would probably refuse to give you bold-italic for the stephen> italic font. stephen> stephen> after switching to tex-mode (which activates AUC-TeX). stephen> stephen> Are you sure AUC-TeX uses the 'italic face? Just because the font you stephen> see is italic doesn't mean the face is 'italic. The face could be stephen> 'tex-emph or something like that. stephen> stephen> As other posters suggested, try an oblique face or the stephen> try-oblique-before-italic-fonts variable. However, the latter will stephen> not affect set-face-font which is a very low-level utility. stephen> stephen> Thanks for following up! stephen> stephen> -- stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp stephen> University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN stephen> Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; stephen> ask what your business can "do for" free software. stephen> From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 13 23:54:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA20993; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:54:11 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA20952 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:53:01 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163s1u-0004fW-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:52:06 +0900 To: Meino Christian Cramer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011114.050429.730553731.mccramer@s.netic.de> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 14 Nov 2001 13:52:05 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011114.050429.730553731.mccramer@s.netic.de> Message-ID: <87bsi6uf7u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: Meino> I did the following test to ensure, that I am using the Meino> correct face: I changed the background color for "italic" Meino> and the chnages were also present in AUC-TeX using italics. This is a valid test. Meino> set-face-font seems to refuse to accept ANY change for the Meino> italic face, regardless, whether I am using oblique fonts Meino> or something else. The problem seems not to be the input Meino> (font-string), but something "inside" which refuses to Meino> change... Yes, this has been reported before; I am able to reproduce. Something seems screwy in the instantiation of the face fonts here. I'm really not sure what. It seems that you need to (reset-face 'italic) before setting the italic font. If you put ;; let's not keep this forever :-( (if (emacs-version>= 21 4 6) (message "After upgrading, try removing the face hack from init.el!")) (reset-face 'italic) (set-face-font 'italic your-preferred-font-spec-goes-here 'global) in your init file, you'll probably get the result you want. Whether you will be able to use Custom on that face afterward I'm not sure. You should be able to use -*-iso8859-15 fonts by doing this. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 01:54:27 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA26706; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:54:09 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA26690; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:53:58 -0500 Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 163tvl-0002zX-01; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:53:53 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.6.68]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 163tvY-1pp99sC; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:53:40 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Meino Christian Cramer , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: <668dyh9s.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: Stephen> Shooting in the dark here: >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: Stephen> M-x set-face-font italic -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1"" Stephen> set-face-font should not have a problem setting this, but Huh? What about the trailing "" in the font? Stephen> it is true that Custom probably would not be able to in Stephen> any event, because it treats the 4 default faces Stephen> (default, italic, bold, bold-italic) specially. It would Stephen> probably refuse to give you bold-italic for the italic Stephen> font. Stephen> after switching to tex-mode (which activates AUC-TeX). Stephen> Are you sure AUC-TeX uses the 'italic face? Just because the font you Stephen> see is italic doesn't mean the face is 'italic. The face could be Stephen> 'tex-emph or something like that. Stephen> As other posters suggested, try an oblique face or the Stephen> try-oblique-before-italic-fonts variable. However, the latter will Stephen> not affect set-face-font which is a very low-level utility. Stephen> Thanks for following up! Stephen> -- Stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp Stephen> University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Stephen> Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; Stephen> ask what your business can "do for" free software. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 02:15:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA27671; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:15:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA27635; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:14:15 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 163uEY-0004mT-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:13:18 +0900 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Meino Christian Cramer , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <87ofm7z9em.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.155008.730557178.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87r8r2wvj8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011113.172628.730549650.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <668dyh9s.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 14 Nov 2001 16:13:18 +0900 In-Reply-To: <668dyh9s.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> Message-ID: <87itcdu8oh.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: Stephen> M-x set-face-font italic Stephen> -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1"" Stephen> Stephen> set-face-font should not have a problem setting this, but APA> Huh? What about the trailing "" in the font? Ah, I missed that, but it doesn't matter, the bug is real (and previously reported). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 05:15:43 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA06032; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 05:15:12 -0500 Received: from eken2.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (eken2.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.121.2]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA05952 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 05:13:33 -0500 Received: from e-ppp9.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (e-ppp9.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.121.59]) by eken2.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.11.6+3.4W/3.7W-E) with ESMTP id fAEADM020319 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:13:22 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:13:28 +0900 Message-ID: <86itcdvewn.wl@eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp> From: Yoichi NAKAYAMA Subject: Re: behavior of localized truncate-partial-width-windows To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs In-Reply-To: References: <86y9le8zc0.wl@eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp> <87eln45va0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.7.6 (Too Funky) EMIKO/1.14.1 (Choanoflagellata) LIMIT/1.14.7 (Fujiidera) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.5 (beta3) (asparagus) (i386-unknown-freebsd4.3) Organization: E-ken, Dept. of Physics, Nagoya University, JAPAN X-Face: wLZki+KbGjgKe0,<&3g*rA|R**vj[a8L%[v]ecJh1L(Uqm|LBx;v7Nq7n%?0d.aS]F#[~C\!{m?m,C&#U5}$_pZvBR>5VmX1Ol0`P\M-U8`sUF<5Quj'z&zzW8r|Zl9#W7Wut3duYzpKrP{n+AbarKtJ!i"Al7]P;-?[=iBZa*]r=>C':0~JECx]IH+RXq=/hUX}MB9e]oQKBxsDd/ X-Face-Version: X-Face utility v1.3.6.13 - "Eleanor Rigby (remix)" X-Fortune: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOiNGfCROJF8kOiQsJGE6QiRPRnw6IiROJG8bKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJEAkKyReJGokLCVIJWklViVrJEskSiRqJD0kJiEjGyhC?= X-Weather: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCTEBGfCROMCZDTjgpJE9AMiRHJDkbKEI=?= / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCTEBGfCROOzA9RTgpJE9AMiRHJDkbKEI=?= MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by EMIKO 1.14.1 - "Choanoflagellata") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Ben Wing wrote: > this is a bug in xemacs. there's a lot of precedent regarding the > interpretation of "buffer-local" wrt redisplay variables. > in general, yes, things that control redisplay should be specifiers, but it may > not be worth changing here. > the patch to fix this is easy [untested]: I applied your patch on my xemacs-21.5.3, and the behavior of truncate-partial-width-windows become satisfactory. Thanks! with best regards, -- Yoichi Nakayama From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 09:16:26 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18430; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:16:08 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18376; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:15:01 -0500 Received: from mms12108.pth.mms.uk (firewall.mmsuk.co.uk [194.203.13.66]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA18345 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:14:15 -0500 Received: from 194.35.68.222 by mms12108.pth.mms.uk (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:54:32 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Received: by mms12031.pth.uk.astrium.corp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:12:12 -0000 Message-ID: <2F8785E3C8C0D51183AC00508BAF2AC0158AB8@mms12034.pth.uk.astrium.corp> From: "BROCKLEY, David" To: "'crashes@xemacs.org'" Subject: Xemacs crashed on ctrl-z from terminal Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:14:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi Hope this is useful, although the stack trace does not look promising since it was built optimized using the DEC compiler. Running Xemacs on a DEC Alpha and viewing via Hummingbird Exceed 6.1.0.0 on a PC running NT4 SP6. Recieved the crash information on the terminal when it did a ctrl-z to detach xemacs from it. Cheers, David ---- Requested info ---- uname -a: OSF1 msgs01 V4.0 1229 alpha ./configure '--with-gcc=no' '--cflags=-O' '--prefix=/home/davidb/tree' '--with-mule=no' XEmacs 21.1.14 "Cuyahoga Valley" configured for `alphaev56-dec-osf4.0f'. Where should the build process find the source code? /home/davidb/downloads/xemacs-21.1.14 What installation prefix should install use? /home/davidb/tree What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/decosf4-0.h' and `m/alpha.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? cc -O Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/dt/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/dt/lib Runtime library search path: /usr/dt/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. -------------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling without PNG image support. WARNING: You should strongly consider installing the PNG libraries. WARNING: Otherwise certain images and glyphs may not display. WARNING: (a copy may be found in ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/aux) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Compiling in support for (builtin) GIF image handling. Compiling in support for Berkeley DB. Compiling in support for DBM. Compiling in support for ToolTalk. Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "flock" for locking mail spool files. (dbx) where > 0 __kill(0xa00000014018b808, 0xa0000001401be308, 0xa00000014018b838, 0x0, 0x0) [0x3ff800e9b78] 1 fatal_error_signal(0x0, 0xa00000014018b838, 0x3ff800d8d74, 0x1402f2c00, 0x2) [0x12008b68c] 2 __poll(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x11fffde68, 0x3ff803dd550) [0x3ff8010e838] 3 _XtWaitForSomething(0x1, 0x0, 0x3ff803df75c, 0x2, 0xf4240) [0x3ff803dd788] 4 XtAppProcessEvent(0x0, 0x140644ba8, 0x3ff8045fdd4, 0x0, 0x12017dca8) [0x3ff803df788] 5 (unknown)() [0x12017dce4] 6 event_stream_next_event(0xa00000014018b808, 0x140152030, 0x140152388, 0x140153010, 0x1401524e8) [0x1200c658c] 7 (unknown)() [0x1200c8d40] 8 Fnext_event(0x11fffe310, 0x11fffe2b8, 0x100000001, 0x2000000140644ba8, 0x14038aa00) [0x1200c92e4] 9 Fcommand_loop_1(0x11fffe348, 0x100000001, 0xa00000014018b808, 0x2000000140644ba8, 0x100000000) [0x12006ec90] 10 (unknown)() [0x12006e9dc] 11 condition_case_1(0x1200ccd08, 0x1401521c8, 0x1200ccd30, 0x0, 0x0) [0x120092458] 12 (unknown)() [0x12006e244] 13 internal_catch(0x100000001, 0x60000001401ad8b0, 0x7ff0000000000000, 0x45c4, 0x0) [0x120091f40] 14 initial_command_loop(0xfffffffffffffff, 0x2, 0xa00000014018b808, 0x2, 0x1) [0x12006e4d8] 15 (unknown)() [0x12008d6b0] 16 main(0x3ff00000000, 0x14000a6c0, 0x120054c7c, 0x11fffeba0, 0x11fffeb88) [0x12008e11c] (dbx) quit ----- David James Brockley Software Engineer - Astrium Ltd (david.brockley@astrium-space.com} ... 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Astrium Limited Gunnels Wood Road Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 2AS From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 10:51:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24451; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:50:23 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn275.s.netic.de [212.9.163.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24332; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:49:30 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1642Dz-0000ST-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:45:15 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:45:15 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011114.164515.730553790.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: stephen@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <87bsi6uf7u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011114.050429.730553731.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87bsi6uf7u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: 14 Nov 2001 13:52:05 +0900 Message-ID: <87bsi6uf7u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Hi Stephen, hi "Rest of the crew" ;-) First of all: Thank you __very much__ for all your fast help! Yes, the last hack did it for me. Interesting, that this "reset-font" command -- as specified below -- "unlocks" a dozen other fonts, I haven't even thought before. I have inserted the command sequence into my ~/.xemacs/.init.el-file and now I am very happy to be able to read my own writings -- even if I do some \it in TeX.... ;-) But I think also, this is a bug in XEmacs... Thank you very much to you all ! :o) (One should say, GPL/OpenSoftware has no support...;) keep hacking the right site of life ! :-) Meino stephen> >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: stephen> stephen> Meino> I did the following test to ensure, that I am using the stephen> Meino> correct face: I changed the background color for "italic" stephen> Meino> and the chnages were also present in AUC-TeX using italics. stephen> stephen> This is a valid test. stephen> stephen> Meino> set-face-font seems to refuse to accept ANY change for the stephen> Meino> italic face, regardless, whether I am using oblique fonts stephen> Meino> or something else. The problem seems not to be the input stephen> Meino> (font-string), but something "inside" which refuses to stephen> Meino> change... stephen> stephen> Yes, this has been reported before; I am able to reproduce. stephen> stephen> Something seems screwy in the instantiation of the face fonts here. stephen> I'm really not sure what. stephen> stephen> It seems that you need to stephen> stephen> (reset-face 'italic) stephen> stephen> before setting the italic font. stephen> stephen> If you put stephen> stephen> ;; let's not keep this forever :-( stephen> (if (emacs-version>= 21 4 6) stephen> (message "After upgrading, try removing the face hack from init.el!")) stephen> (reset-face 'italic) stephen> (set-face-font 'italic your-preferred-font-spec-goes-here 'global) stephen> stephen> in your init file, you'll probably get the result you want. Whether stephen> you will be able to use Custom on that face afterward I'm not sure. stephen> stephen> You should be able to use -*-iso8859-15 fonts by doing this. stephen> stephen> stephen> stephen> -- stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp stephen> University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN stephen> Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; stephen> ask what your business can "do for" free software. stephen> From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 12:06:24 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29409; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:06:02 -0500 Received: from zeke.inet.com (zeke.inet.com [199.171.211.198]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29039 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:02:51 -0500 Received: from tex.inetint.com (tex [172.16.99.35]) by zeke.inet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fAEGxBS09216 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:59:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from harpo.inetint.com (harpo.inetint.com [172.16.99.60]) by tex.inetint.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAEH2d905800 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:02:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from rcclinux.inetint.com ([172.16.116.195]) by harpo.inetint.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GMSVCE00.PMF for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:02:38 -0600 Received: from cobbe by rcclinux.inetint.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1643Qs-0003N2-00 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:02:38 -0600 From: Richard Cobbe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15346.41902.336257.68574@rcclinux.inetint.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:02:38 -0600 (CST) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Bug in info mode included with XEmacs 21.1.14 X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Greetings, all. I've just encountered a bug in the info mode included with XEmacs 21.1.14. I've written an info document for some software that we use internally, and it includes some cross-references: The two relevant paragraphs from the texinfo source follow: The makefile sets preprocessor directives as necessary to make this work in all build modes. In most of the build modes, @code{OUTLINE} is not defined, and @code{INLINE} expands to @samp{inline}. Therefore, the @file{.icc} file is read from within the @file{.h} file, and the functions are compiled inline. In @samp{debug} mode, however, @code{OUTLINE} and @code{INLINE} are both defined to be the empty string. Here, then, the @file{.icc} file is read from within the @file{.cc} file, and the functions are treated as normal, out-of-line functions. (See @ref{preprocessor-vars}, for the reasons why two variables are necessary here.) .... @anchor{preprocessor-vars}An earlier version of the design had a single macro, @code{IT7_BUILD_MODE}, which expanded to one of the strings @samp{release}, @samp{debug}, @samp{profile}, etc. Due to limitations in the preprocessor, however, this did not work as expected. It is possible to compare a preprocessor macro against a numeric literal at compile time, using the following syntax: These paragraphs are fairly far apart from each other, and appear in different nodes. When the file is big enough for makeinfo (v4.0) to split it across several nodes, XEmacs's info mode can no longer follow the cross reference to @anchor{preprocessor-vars}: it complains `No such node: preprocessor-vars'. When I open the info file directly, I can see the cross-reference tag in the list of node names and footnotes, as I expect it to be, so I think makeinfo is doing its job correctly. In addition, the standalone info browser v2.10-p1 and the info browser incorporated in FSF Emacs 20.7.1 do the job correctly. When the document is small enough to fit into a single .info file, however, XEmacs follows the cross-reference correctly. There appears to be some difficulty following cross-references when a document is split into multiple parts; this fails both when the reference and its target are in the same part and when they are in different parts. Thanks kindly, Richard -- /"\ \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / \ AGAINST HTML MAIL From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 13:32:43 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01799; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:32:08 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn361.s.netic.de [212.9.163.105]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01743; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:31:02 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1644mV-0000kY-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:29:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:29:03 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011114.192903.730558321.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: stephen@xemacs.org Cc: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <87itcdu8oh.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <668dyh9s.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> <87itcdu8oh.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: 14 Nov 2001 16:13:18 +0900 Message-ID: <87itcdu8oh.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Hi ! Afterglow: The same problem seems to be with the 'bold face. Setting this face does only work after a reset-font 'bold. Seems to be a more spread problem there.... keep hacking the right site of life ! :-) Meino stephen> >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: stephen> stephen> Stephen> M-x set-face-font italic stephen> Stephen> -adobe-courier-bold-i-normal--14-135-75-75-m-0-iso8859-1"" stephen> Stephen> stephen> stephen> Stephen> set-face-font should not have a problem setting this, but stephen> stephen> APA> Huh? What about the trailing "" in the font? stephen> stephen> Ah, I missed that, but it doesn't matter, the bug is real (and stephen> previously reported). stephen> stephen> stephen> -- stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp stephen> University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN stephen> Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; stephen> ask what your business can "do for" free software. stephen> From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 14:51:33 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06213; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:51:03 -0500 Received: from flatt.cs.colostate.edu (flatt.cs.colostate.edu [129.82.45.245]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06190 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:50:47 -0500 Received: (from dahlman@localhost) by flatt.cs.colostate.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAEJogf26876; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:50:42 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: flatt.cs.colostate.edu: dahlman set sender to dahlman@cs.colostate.edu using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Getting packages from CVS From: Eric Dahlman X-Home-Page: http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~dahlman Organization: Colorado State University Date: 14 Nov 2001 12:50:42 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Howdy, I know that there have been some problems with CVS, I was just wondering if the fact that I cannot get any of the packages out of the repository is operator error on my part, a documentation bug or if there is something else wrong. I can log on with pserver and grab the xemacs tree just fine. I just did a CVS update and it also worked just fine. But when I try the package example from http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html I get $cvs -z3 -d:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/xemacscvs checkout gnus cvs server: cannot find module `gnus' - ignored cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules Now the uber package 'packages' does work and presumably specifying a sub-module like 'packages/xemacs-package/gnus' should work. So should have I expected the shorter version to work? Thanks for the help, -Eric From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 15:31:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08992; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:31:03 -0500 Received: from brockman.tinet.ie (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08946 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:30:23 -0500 Received: from p305.as1.athlone1.eircom.net ([159.134.205.49] helo=159.134.205.49) by brockman.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 1646fo-0006Dv-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:30:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 3068 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2001 20:44:25 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (HELO linux.local.localdomain) (vb@127.0.0.1) by softdnserror with SMTP; 14 Nov 2001 20:44:25 -0000 From: Vaclav Barta To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: cursor at the beginning of Info buffer does not react to right arrow Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:30:17 +0000 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I've been browsing Info and came across (not for the first time, but I'm not sure in which emacs I've seen it before) an irritating limitation: when I open a new Info buffer, the cursor (or is it called "point" in emacs?) is in at the beginning of the first line; that line has links (Next, Prev and Up). If I want to go Next, I'd like to position the cursor at the link - but with a keyboard, I can't do it... The cursor won't move right (strangely enough, it does move down when I press the down arrow, and it also may be moved with a mouse). And when I press enter, I do follow a link, but it's none of the three which are displayed - in the case I've just seen, the newly opened Info buffer is 2 levels up... ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.0 #3 Sun Jan 28 20:49:46 GMT 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/cvs.src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- nil Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .42 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (mule-base :version 1.39 :type regular) (leim :version 1.17 :type regular)) Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail info efs-cu cus-face overlay remem xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads semantic-autoloads psgml-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mew-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads igrep-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads efs-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads dired-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads mule-base-autoloads leim-autoloads src-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar esd-sound native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- misc-user C-x C-s button1 button1up C-s l i b t right RET down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down right right right right RET down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down right right right right RET right right right right right right right right right right right right right RET l right l RET right right M-x r e p o r t - x e TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading mail-abbrevs... 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Composing main Info directory...done Creating temporary dir in /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/info/...done From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 16:20:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA11896; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:20:09 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA11814; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:19:16 -0500 Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1647RB-00006G-0G; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:19:13 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.7.74]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1647R7-0j9avQC; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:19:09 +0100 To: Eric Dahlman Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Getting packages from CVS References: X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Eric" == Eric Dahlman writes: Eric> Howdy, Eric> I know that there have been some problems with CVS, I was Eric> just wondering if the fact that I cannot get any of the Eric> packages out of the repository is operator error on my part, Eric> a documentation bug or if there is something else wrong. Eric> I can log on with pserver and grab the xemacs tree just Eric> fine. I just did a CVS update and it also worked just Eric> fine. But when I try the package example from Eric> http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html I get Eric> $cvs -z3 -d:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/xemacscvs checkout gnus Eric> cvs server: cannot find module `gnus' - ignored Eric> cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules Eric> Now the uber package 'packages' does work and presumably Eric> specifying a sub-module like 'packages/xemacs-package/gnus' Eric> should work. So should have I expected the shorter version Eric> to work? We still have to merge CVSROOT from two seperate repositories. We also have to do some research and a bit of redesign. That's why we don't have an ETA for the ueberpackages to work again. Until then please use package module names like packages/xemacs-packages/PACAKGE or packages/mule-packages/PACAKGE Best regards, Adrian Eric> Thanks for the help, Eric> -Eric -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 20:52:23 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25515; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:51:12 -0500 Received: from ketchers.math.ucla.edu (ketchers.math.ucla.edu [128.97.4.128]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25492 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:50:27 -0500 Received: by ketchers.math.ucla.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) id C50F61B932; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:50:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Segfault in XEmacs-21.5-b3 From: Richard Ketchersid To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.0 (Preview Release) Date: 14 Nov 2001 17:50:18 -0800 Message-Id: <1005789018.16474.0.camel@ketchers.math.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Here is what happens with with xemacs version r21-5-latest-beta. This happens when starting xemacs built on either of two different computers. It also happens when built with gnome+gtk, but it takes a little longer, that is the window comes up and lets you do a bit before crashing. Lisp backtrace follows: # bind (frame-being-created) make-frame(nil #) frame-initialize() # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) command-line() # (unwind-protect ...) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) zsh: 14675 segmentation fault (core dumped) xemacs #0 0x404d6a41 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x080ba9c3 in fatal_error_signal () #2 0x404d6898 in killpg () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0x40268d32 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #4 0x40269bd9 in XtCreatePopupShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #5 0x081c8c80 in x_create_widgets () #6 0x081ca351 in x_init_frame_1 () #7 0x08130673 in Fmake_frame () #8 0x080beaab in Ffuncall () #9 0x08093bff in execute_optimized_program () #10 0x080937ba in funcall_compiled_function () #11 0x080bea03 in Ffuncall () #12 0x08093bff in execute_optimized_program () #13 0x080937ba in funcall_compiled_function () #14 0x080bea03 in Ffuncall () #15 0x08093bff in execute_optimized_program () #16 0x080937ba in funcall_compiled_function () #17 0x080be01f in Feval () #18 0x080bbc7c in condition_case_1 () #19 0x0809fc0e in top_level_1 () #20 0x080bbb3d in internal_catch () #21 0x0809f3a2 in initial_command_loop () #22 0x080b8330 in xemacs_21_5_b3_i686_pc_linux () #23 0x080b9235 in main () #24 0x404c46a0 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 21:37:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA27610; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:37:04 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA27567 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:36:07 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 164CMs-0006zF-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:35:06 +0900 To: Meino Christian Cramer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <87eln2w7cv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011114.050429.730553731.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87bsi6uf7u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011114.164515.730553790.mccramer@s.netic.de> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 15 Nov 2001 11:35:05 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011114.164515.730553790.mccramer@s.netic.de> Message-ID: <87ofm4pxra.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: Meino> Yes, the last hack did it for me. Interesting, that this Meino> "reset-font" command -- as specified below -- "unlocks" a Meino> dozen other fonts, I haven't even thought before. Can you post a list of them? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 21:53:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28320; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:53:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28302 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:52:48 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 164CdC-0006zf-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:51:58 +0900 To: Richard Ketchersid Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Segfault in XEmacs-21.5-b3 References: <1005789018.16474.0.camel@ketchers.math.ucla.edu> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 15 Nov 2001 11:51:58 +0900 In-Reply-To: <1005789018.16474.0.camel@ketchers.math.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <87k7wspwz5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Ketchersid writes: Richard> Here is what happens with with xemacs version r21-5-latest-beta. If you have a working version of XEmacs, please use M-x report-xemacs-bug so that we get your Installation file and other important configuration information. Also tell us the versions of the OS, any packager, and of X11. But let me guess: recently updated Debian sid (how apt), XFree86 4.1.0? The Debian X11 package maintainer thinks XFree86 is broken, FWIW. I have two otherwise identical builds of XEmacs, one built before my upgrade of Debian, one after. The latter crashes as you describe, I'm using the former to write this post. Hmmm.... -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 22:02:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA28768; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:02:03 -0500 Received: from femail33.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail33.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.23]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA28704; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:01:07 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail33.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011115030106.UJAP8612.femail33.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:01:06 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Ben Wing" Cc: "Paul Krause" , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:01:12 -0800 Message-ID: <002f01c16d81$c889d710$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3BEF17BB.52C35456@666.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > 3] keep in mind there are many revert-buffer hooks, some of which > explicitly > replace the normal operation of inserting the file. your patch > as is completely > runs over them. the only hook that you can [reasonably safely] Good point. Since I am only trying to hit a sweet spot here I guess it would be possible to only use the optimization if there were no hooks, it was called non-interactively and there were no coding system changes in place. > optimize away is > `after-revert-hook' [and possibly `before-revert-hook']. to make > your patch > safe, it would have to do all the steps to actually revert the > buffer, but do it > in another buffer, and then finally compare the results and skip calling > `after-revert-hook' if they're the same. if semantic hooks off of > `after-revert-hook' [which it probably does], you're in luck. > with a bit of > effort you can also avoid having the before/after-change functions called. I don't really understand this. Things like font-lock don't use after-revert-hook, they use after-change-functions don't they? So how would this work? I still think we are actually missing a function, something like `refresh-buffer', since revert-buffer is too fierce. Maybe find-file-noselect is a better place for this? andy andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 14 22:36:19 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA30150; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:36:08 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA30123; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:35:31 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 164DIV-00073E-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:34:39 +0900 To: "Andy Piper" Cc: "Ben Wing" , "Paul Krause" , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <002f01c16d81$c889d710$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 15 Nov 2001 12:34:39 +0900 In-Reply-To: <002f01c16d81$c889d710$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Message-ID: <87668cpv00.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> I still think we are actually missing a function, something Andy> like `refresh-buffer', since revert-buffer is too Andy> fierce. How about `sync-buffer' for the name? "Refresh" implies display properties to me, ie, redoing all the expensive operations (fontlock, semantic parsing) for the whole buffer. Exactly what you don't want. For implementation, try something rsync-like and only revert those regions of the buffer with actual changes. Since AFAIK font-lock is line-oriented, a diff with a temporary file (buffer image) and a merge in Lisp should be satisfactory. Since the diff is used immediately, no context is needed, this should be only a few lines of Lisp to parse and execute a non-context-diff patch. It would probably make sense to look at font-lock with a view to optimizing line-oriented changes. But now you've got several file i/o operations to worry about. And this function might be called on non-text buffers, where diff may do crazy things. Getting this right would be tricky. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 02:01:58 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA13107; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:01:09 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (lsanca1-ar12-170-121.lsanca1.dsl.gtei.net [4.40.170.121]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA13089; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:00:29 -0500 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 505) id 2A393A924; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:00:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A1FA8B9; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:00:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:00:22 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Ketchersid X-X-Sender: ketchers@lsanca1-ar12-170-121.lsanca1.dsl.gtei.net To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Richard Ketchersid , Subject: Re: Segfault in XEmacs-21.5-b3 In-Reply-To: <87k7wspwz5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Below is the installation file. The distribution is Mandrake Cooker (8.2+) uname -a: Linux lsanca1-ar12-170-121 2.4.13-7mdk #1 Wed Nov 14 18:55:29 CET 2001 i686 unknown /usr/src/CVS/xemacs-21.5/configure '--prefix=/usr' '--libs=-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext -lXp' '--extra-verbose' '--cflags=-O3' '--dynamic=yes' '--with-mule' '--infopath=/usr/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/local/share/info:/usr/lib/xemacs/site-packages/info/:/usr/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/info/:/usr/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/info/:/usr/lib/xemacs/info/:.' '--infodir=/usr/lib/xemacs/info/' '--with-site-lisp=yes' '--error-checking=none' XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/CVS/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O3 Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: pgsql/libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. On 15 Nov 2001, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Ketchersid writes: > > Richard> Here is what happens with with xemacs version r21-5-latest-beta. > > If you have a working version of XEmacs, please use M-x > report-xemacs-bug so that we get your Installation file and other > important configuration information. Also tell us the versions of the > OS, any packager, and of X11. But let me guess: recently updated > Debian sid (how apt), XFree86 4.1.0? > > The Debian X11 package maintainer thinks XFree86 is broken, FWIW. I > have two otherwise identical builds of XEmacs, one built before my > upgrade of Debian, one after. The latter crashes as you describe, I'm > using the former to write this post. Hmmm.... > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 02:34:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA14213; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:34:03 -0500 Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (mail3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA14200 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:33:44 -0500 Received: from modem-1135.pounder.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.134.156.111] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 164H1q-0007y1-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:33:42 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164H6k-0001KI-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:38:46 +0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Cc: Les Schaffer Subject: possible gtk bug From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.1.10 (i386-debian-linux) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 15 Nov 2001 07:38:45 +0000 Message-ID: <87eln032m2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , There may be another little XEmacs --with-gtk bug; does anyone else get these symptoms? GTK programs have a menu that you can pull off and put somewhere else. When its menu is pulled off the XEmacs frame resizes itself, becoming taller by one. When it is re-attached, the XEmacs frame resizes itself, becoming shorter by two and narrower by one. The frame shrinks! If I repeatedly detach and re-attach the menu then the frame will shrink to about two thirds of its original size, but no further. This occurs on my system with XEmacs 21.5.3b and 21.4.5, built --with-gtk, using either the sawfish or xfwm window managers. It doesn't happen with an old XEmacs 21.1.12 (GTK). -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 06:19:36 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA24016; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:19:03 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA23988 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:18:31 -0500 Received: from localhost.optonline.net (ool-182db51c.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.181.28]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GMU000ZFA2GFS@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:18:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:17:32 -0500 From: Les Schaffer X-Face: [V?bWTh\+_V")"gXxY9KGQozO(|>ggwp;\Ds6@YGoS$wreQaSLmhWUp%V;okpj4C^i$FQWK Q:/luO.Zh=VP"U5M.%m1cK:v9DgiQp^JK47nxE^=e3~HPoLmY,igNBZo)LUT3a2CFm*chsyaq7~=dU _IX>v[h$BZsa*yn5;?{|3Z@ZI@FL(e`-@wq`f?~{1){A%o:/t"39M@}ER]6.62NbfxrD%!{9!So^\9 c Subject: possible gtk bug In-reply-to: <87eln032m2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> To: John Paul Wallington Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Reply-to: Les Schaffer Message-id: <15347.42060.534507.600218@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_bPq0CkPYBmAZT4VVcrq6Qw)" References: <87eln032m2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.18. Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --Boundary_(ID_bPq0CkPYBmAZT4VVcrq6Qw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: message body text > There may be another little XEmacs --with-gtk bug; does anyone else > get these symptoms? yup. but i can go farther than 2/3's. see the worlds smallest gtk-xemacs, attached. when i dragged the frame larger after this little experiment, the menubar was attached at bottom rather than top, i had to move it back up. other gtk problems: 1.) in VM, the glyphs for attachments are not showing up. there should be one for the attachment below, but there ain't. 2.) Pasting/X-selection works a lil differently. in beta2/non-gtk, i could sweep the mouse over a region and the region would automatically be in the X clipboard. it still is now: i can paste into an xterm for example, but NOT into an xemacs frame. i have to do a M-w first. 3.) (more visual annoyance than bug) when i move the mouse around in a buffer, or when i type, the scrollbars flicker. will add this stuff to our gtk bug page later today. les schaffer p.s. some of the faces got changed between beta2/non and beta3/gtk. --Boundary_(ID_bPq0CkPYBmAZT4VVcrq6Qw) Content-type: image/jpeg; NAME=worlds-smallest-xemacs.jpg Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-disposition: inline; filename=worlds-smallest-xemacs.jpg Content-description: small! /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEASABIAAD/2wBDAAUDBAQEAwUEBAQFBQUGBwwIBwcHBw8LCwkMEQ8S EhEPERETFhwXExQaFRERGCEYGh0dHx8fExciJCIeJBweHx7/2wBDAQUFBQcGBw4ICA4eFBEU Hh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh4eHh7/wAAR CAAcAA4DAREAAhEBAxEB/8QAFgABAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAYH/8QAKhAAAQMCBQIFBQAA AAAAAAAAAQIDBAURAAYSITEHEwg4YXa0ImJxgZH/xAAUAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA/8QA FBEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP/aAAwDAQACEQMRAD8AS9VqEtqoSkpmKSlCgAC6tsAl0p5O yjawCU+l+cAQfETMlS/DHSlyZDjpczxUHFalbFRk1Ek24vcn+4Bb1cqNUmhBcJTpuEOJWUp7 yuUnZtPO43O/pgCD198r9H96T/k1DAL2uJvUJPcSSnWko7jOpN+8d06dyfuVsP1gCF198r9H 96T/AJNQwExP8VfUyXNflCLl6Op8grSzEcAsFagLlwki+9iTycBn2bep2ZMzZMYylUG4CKax Unak2GWSlYdcW8tQ1FR+m767D8b7YD//2Q== --Boundary_(ID_bPq0CkPYBmAZT4VVcrq6Qw)-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 06:50:24 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA25337; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:50:08 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA25299 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:49:34 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 164L0W-0001px-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 20:48:36 +0900 To: Richard Ketchersid , ssahmed@pathcom.com Cc: Subject: Segfaults in recent XEmacsen trying to open first frame, solved References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 15 Nov 2001 20:48:31 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87itccntkg.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Actually about two weeks ago, information from Mike Fabian@SuSE (and Jens Petersen@Red Hat also seems aware of it), but it took _me_ a while to catch on. >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Ketchersid writes: Richard> Below is the installation file. The distribution is Richard> Mandrake Cooker (8.2+) Ah, YALD with the problem ... let's see ... looks familiar ... yup, XEmacs maintainer senility. We been there, done that, but I forgot. See http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200110/msg00294.html for details. "./configure --ldflags='-s -znocombreloc" ..." should fix. (Ie, it does for me.) Alternatively, './configure --pdump ...' should fix. (Ie, it does for me.) There should be a fix (to configure) in 21.4.6, which likely will use the conservative `nocombreloc' approach. I propose to default pdump on in 21.5 and we'll see how it goes. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 07:02:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA25818; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:02:02 -0500 Received: from zion.rcn.com (209-6-124-185.c3-0.nwt-ubr1.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.124.185]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA25792; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:01:43 -0500 Received: by zion.rcn.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id B552C11992; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:03:59 -0500 (EST) To: Richard Ketchersid Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: Re: Segfault in XEmacs-21.5-b3 References: From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: 15 Nov 2001 07:03:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 87 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Do we still have problems with ESD? I guess I would recommend configuring the package '--with-sound=native,noesd'. Richard Ketchersid writes: > Below is the installation file. The distribution is Mandrake Cooker (8.2+) > > uname -a: Linux lsanca1-ar12-170-121 2.4.13-7mdk #1 Wed Nov 14 18:55:29 CET 2001 i686 unknown > > /usr/src/CVS/xemacs-21.5/configure '--prefix=/usr' '--libs=-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext -lXp' '--extra-verbose' '--cflags=-O3' '--dynamic=yes' '--with-mule' '--infopath=/usr/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/local/share/info:/usr/lib/xemacs/site-packages/info/:/usr/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/info/:/usr/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/info/:/usr/lib/xemacs/info/:.' '--infodir=/usr/lib/xemacs/info/' '--with-site-lisp=yes' '--error-checking=none' > > > XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. > > > Compilation / Installation: > Source code location: /usr/src/CVS/xemacs-21.5 > Installation prefix: /usr > Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > Compiler: gcc -O3 > Relocating allocator for buffers: no > GNU version of malloc: yes > - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. > > Window System: > Compiling in support for the X window system: > - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include > - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib > - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. > Using Lucid menubars. > Using Lucid scrollbars. > Using Motif dialog boxes. > Using Motif native widgets. > > TTY: > Compiling in support for ncurses. > > Images: > Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > Compiling in support for XPM images. > Compiling in support for PNG images. > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > > Sound: > Compiling in support for sound (native). > Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). > > Databases: > Compiling in support for Berkeley database. > Compiling in support for LDAP. > Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. > - Using PostgreSQL header file: pgsql/libpq-fe.h > - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. > > Internationalization: > Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). > Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). > - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. > > Mail: > Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. > > Other Features: > Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. > Compiling in support for extra debugging code. > > > On 15 Nov 2001, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Ketchersid writes: > > > > Richard> Here is what happens with with xemacs version r21-5-latest-beta. > > > > If you have a working version of XEmacs, please use M-x > > report-xemacs-bug so that we get your Installation file and other > > important configuration information. Also tell us the versions of the > > OS, any packager, and of X11. But let me guess: recently updated > > Debian sid (how apt), XFree86 4.1.0? > > > > The Debian X11 package maintainer thinks XFree86 is broken, FWIW. I > > have two otherwise identical builds of XEmacs, one built before my > > upgrade of Debian, one after. The latter crashes as you describe, I'm > > using the former to write this post. Hmmm.... > > > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 07:49:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA28467; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:49:03 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA28413; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:48:34 -0500 Received: from mailgate.i-net.nu (mailgate.i-net.nu [194.52.56.250]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27958 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:44:16 -0500 Received: from synthpengarna [195.54.154.220] by mailgate.i-net.nu (SMTPD32-6.06) id A85C252019A; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:43:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01c16e1e$d9e8a020$cb01a8c0@synthpengarna> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Daniel_=C5kerud?= To: Subject: Holding CTRL+G => Fatal error Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:45:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C16DDB.CB4E3450" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C16DDB.CB4E3450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Holding CTRL+G pressed for a while, 10 seconds maybe, issues a fatal = error. Version: Version: 21.4.1-2 (On my debian SID disttribution) Text straight from the console: ISO8:T-----XEmacs: UserObject.h = (C)----L22--All------------------------------------------ [1]+ Stopped xemacs UserObject.h pok@king:~/pok2/src/server/pokt/pokts$ fg xemacs UserObject.h Auto-save? (y or n) y Fatal error: assertion failed, file eval.c, line 3963, !gc_in_progress Fatal error (6). ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C16DDB.CB4E3450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Holding CTRL+G pressed for a while, 10 = seconds=20 maybe, issues a fatal error.
 
Version: Version: 21.4.1-2   = (On my=20 debian SID disttribution)
 
Text straight from the = console:
 
ISO8:T-----XEmacs:=20 UserObject.h     =20 (C)----L22--All------------------------------------------
 
[1]+ =20 Stopped           =      =20 xemacs UserObject.h
pok@king:~/pok2/sr= c/server/pokt/pokts$=20 fg
xemacs UserObject.h
Auto-save? (y or n) y
Fatal error: = assertion=20 failed, file eval.c, line 3963, !gc_in_progress
 
Fatal error = (6).
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C16DDB.CB4E3450-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 09:57:40 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04169; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:57:13 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA03927; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:52:15 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 164NrL-0001zZ-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:51:19 +0900 To: Vin Shelton Cc: Richard Ketchersid , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Subject: ESD issues [was: Segfault in XEmacs-21.5-b3] References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 15 Nov 2001 23:51:19 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <873d3gm6jc.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "vin" == Vin Shelton writes: vin> Do we still have problems with ESD? I guess I would vin> recommend configuring the package vin> '--with-sound=native,noesd'. Yes, ESD is still a problem AFAIK. I got sick of seeing the reports, since there's nothing we can do about it, and 21.4 now defaults to noesd. I wonder if I should port the patch to 21.5? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 11:43:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA12065; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:42:11 -0500 Received: from femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11993; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:41:17 -0500 Received: from zeus ([24.43.121.67]) by femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011115164116.OPHK10057.femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com@zeus>; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 08:41:16 -0800 Received: from zeus (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2131602F; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:50:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:50:00 -0500 X-Mailer: 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 9-beta-7 I); VM 6.96 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" XEmacs Lucid From: "S. Salman Ahmed" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15347.62006.193343.236878@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Richard Ketchersid , , James LewisMoss Subject: Re: Segfaults in recent XEmacsen trying to open first frame, solved In-Reply-To: <87itccntkg.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87itccntkg.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: ssahmed@pathcom.com X-No-Archive: Yes X-Operating-System: Linux zeus 2.4.14 i686 X-Organization: Ahmed Software Consulting Inc. X-Home-Page: http://www.pathcom.com/~ssahmed X-URL: http://www.pathcom.com/~ssahmed X-Disclaimer: I didn't do it, little green aliens wrote this email Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "ST" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: ST> Ah, YALD with the problem ... let's see ... looks familiar ST> ... yup, XEmacs maintainer senility. We been there, done that, ST> but I forgot. ST> ST> See ST> http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200110/msg00294.html ST> for details. ST> ST> "./configure --ldflags='-s -znocombreloc" ..." should fix. (Ie, ST> it does for me.) ST> ST> Alternatively, './configure --pdump ...' should fix. (Ie, it ST> does for me.) ST> ST> There should be a fix (to configure) in 21.4.6, which likely ST> will use the conservative `nocombreloc' approach. I propose to ST> default pdump on in 21.5 and we'll see how it goes. ST> Stephen, Both of the above configure lines work fine on my Debian "sid"/unstable system. Thanks for the heads-up. BTW, I am still not clear what the source of this problem was. Was this a bug in XEmacs or in other libraries ? Thanks. -- Salman Ahmed ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 14:14:49 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24310; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:14:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24227 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:13:19 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 164Rvx-0002BQ-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 04:12:21 +0900 To: ssahmed@pathcom.com Cc: Richard Ketchersid , , James LewisMoss Subject: Re: Segfaults in recent XEmacsen trying to open first frame, solved References: <87itccntkg.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <15347.62006.193343.236878@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 16 Nov 2001 04:12:21 +0900 In-Reply-To: <15347.62006.193343.236878@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <871yizluga.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "S" == S Salman Ahmed writes: S> BTW, I am still not clear what the source of this problem S> was. Was this a bug in XEmacs or in other libraries ? Actually, it's a conflict with an optimization in GNU ld. XEmacs assumes a certain layout for the binary when it "unexec"s the preloaded memory image into an executable file. ld's -z comboreloc option violates that by combining and sorting the various ELF sections for more efficient loading. Evidently the optimization makes a perceptible difference in loading monstrous apps like KDE, but it also confuses XEmacs at run time. This option was made the default in a very recent release of GNU binutils. It only affects apps the unexec, like XEmacs and GNU Emacs. I don't know if the GNU developers are even aware of it (I didn't see anything last I looked at emacs-devel), but the Linux distros all are dealing with it (at least Red Hat and SuSE have already fixed their packages). I don't know if you can call the unexec design a bug, although it is acknowledged to be fragile to such changes in the toolchain. There really wasn't much other choice in the early days of Emacs. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 17:13:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA03236; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:13:13 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA03209; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:12:37 -0500 Received: from fwd06.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 164UkN-0003cE-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:12:35 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.12.124]) by fwd06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 164Uk9-1HYuLgC; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:12:21 +0100 To: Eric Dahlman , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Getting packages from CVS References: X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 64 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: >>>>> "Eric" == Eric Dahlman writes: Eric> Howdy, Eric> I know that there have been some problems with CVS, I was Eric> just wondering if the fact that I cannot get any of the Eric> packages out of the repository is operator error on my part, Eric> a documentation bug or if there is something else wrong. Eric> I can log on with pserver and grab the xemacs tree just Eric> fine. I just did a CVS update and it also worked just Eric> fine. But when I try the package example from Eric> http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html I get Eric> $cvs -z3 -d:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/xemacscvs checkout gnus Eric> cvs server: cannot find module `gnus' - ignored Eric> cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules Eric> Now the uber package 'packages' does work and presumably Eric> specifying a sub-module like 'packages/xemacs-package/gnus' Eric> should work. So should have I expected the shorter version Eric> to work? APA> We still have to merge CVSROOT from two seperate repositories. APA> We also have to do some research and a bit of redesign. APA> That's why we don't have an ETA for the ueberpackages to work again. Ueber-packages are working again, even for packages `build' and `scheme' which were broken due to typos. Give it a whirl if you like! Best regards, Adrian APA> Until then please use package module names like APA> packages/xemacs-packages/PACAKGE APA> or APA> packages/mule-packages/PACAKGE APA> Best regards, APA> Adrian Eric> Thanks for the help, Eric> -Eric APA> -- APA> Adrian Aichner APA> mailto:adrian@xemacs.org APA> http://www.xemacs.org/ -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 18:12:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA07669; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:12:02 -0500 Received: from 209.240.253.23 ([209.240.253.23]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA07599; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:11:10 -0500 Received: by 209.240.253.23 (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 42EC614A0D; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:10:58 -0600 (CST) To: Adrian Aichner Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> <86wv0wumk0.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> From: Michael Harnois Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:10:57 -0600 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "12 Nov 2001 15:00:36 +0100") Message-ID: <86y9l7zl32.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i386-unknown-freebsd5.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 12 Nov 2001 15:00:36 +0100, Adrian Aichner said: > the CVS repository is still in transition at SunSITE.dk. Did it get changed again? cvs server: cannot open directory /pack/xemacscvs/xemacs: No such file or directory -- Michael D. Harnois bilocational bivocational Pastor, Redeemer Lutheran Church Washburn, Iowa 1L, UST School of Law Minneapolis, Minnesota Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Juvenal From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 18:37:21 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09336; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:37:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09270; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:35:59 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 164W23-0002Z5-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:34:55 +0900 To: Michael Harnois Cc: Adrian Aichner , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: cvs updating References: <15342.9908.94757.542319@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <15342.35579.225437.213271@boffi95.stru.polimi.it> <86wv0wumk0.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> <86y9l7zl32.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 16 Nov 2001 08:34:55 +0900 In-Reply-To: <86y9l7zl32.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> Message-ID: <87k7wr7gm8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Harnois writes: Michael> Did it get changed again? Yes. We're trying to match things up to the old cvs.xemacs.org structure, and the directories got moved inside the Repository. Sorry.... # cd to the top directory of your workspace and $ for r in `find . -name Repository`; do \ cat $r | sed -e 's,^xemacs,XEmacs/xemacs,' > $r.new; \ mv $r.new $r; \ done should work. New checkouts should be OK, as we have the modules file set up correctly (I believe, I haven't tried it yet). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 15 18:56:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10479; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:56:02 -0500 Received: from fepC.post.tele.dk (fepC.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.147]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10444 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:55:21 -0500 Received: from romeo ([195.249.209.14]) by fepC.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011115235517.HFVC11568.fepC.post.tele.dk@romeo> for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:55:17 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:57:40 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= Subject: Installs in the wrong directory on Windows 3 Reply-To: cs@chbs.dk Organization: cHBs X-Mailer: Opera 5.10 build 902 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <20011115235517.HFVC11568.fepC.post.tele.dk@romeo> Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Dear Bug Team! XEmacs installs in the wrong directory on non English versions of Windows 32 machines. The correct directory for the Danish version is "c:\Programmer" instead of "c:\Program files". You should look for the Program directory ind the Windows Registry instead of using the English version. The most enjoyable greetings ================================================================ _/ __/ | + Jeg vil leve i en verden, hvor Claus Sørensen / (_ . al kommunikation er baseret på Nøddelunden 110 | _} _ frie og åbne standarder, så 2765 Smørum ( |_o `)(| ) enhver har friheden til at cs@chbs.dk \ /(_)-(_ (' vælge. 20 94 62 34 |__\o./ _>; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 04:24:42 -0500 Received: (qmail 87315 invoked by uid 50); 16 Nov 2001 09:24:40 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 87287 invoked by uid 0); 16 Nov 2001 09:24:38 -0000 Received: from dialupb219.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.114.219) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 09:24:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF4DB7F.62D620FB@666.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:25:19 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Piper CC: Paul Krause , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <002f01c16d81$c889d710$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper wrote: > > > 3] keep in mind there are many revert-buffer hooks, some of which > > explicitly > > replace the normal operation of inserting the file. your patch > > as is completely > > runs over them. the only hook that you can [reasonably safely] > > Good point. Since I am only trying to hit a sweet spot here I guess it > would be possible to only use the optimization if there were no hooks, it > was called non-interactively and there were no coding system changes in > place. > > > optimize away is > > `after-revert-hook' [and possibly `before-revert-hook']. to make > > your patch > > safe, it would have to do all the steps to actually revert the > > buffer, but do it > > in another buffer, and then finally compare the results and skip calling > > `after-revert-hook' if they're the same. if semantic hooks off of > > `after-revert-hook' [which it probably does], you're in luck. > > with a bit of > > effort you can also avoid having the before/after-change functions called. > > I don't really understand this. Things like font-lock don't use > after-revert-hook, they use after-change-functions don't they? So how would > this work? just disable the change hooks while you're inserting into a temp buffer. once you do the compare, and the results are the same, leave the old buffer as is. no triggering of font-lock. there is also code in insert-file-contents to figure out how much has changed -- it searches for a region [hopefully small] containing all the changes, and then arranges for the extents and markers to be preserved in the remaining text [essentially by just deleting and replacing the changed section]. to work properly in the case of coding systems, etc. you need to insert into a temp buffer and do the compare. we don't actually implement this code currently, but fsf does (but DO NOT TRY to copy their implementation, you'll just cause more grief for yourself). the only reason to do all this [provided your more general revert code is in] is in the case where only a small change was made before reverting, and it only affects font-lock [and only if you don't use lazy-lock], so it may not be worth fussing with. > > I still think we are actually missing a function, something like > `refresh-buffer', since revert-buffer is too fierce. Maybe > find-file-noselect is a better place for this? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! not another api doing exactly what an existing one does just fine, provided the correct optimizations are there. adding user-callable functions is tantamount to adding new options, and there needs to be a clear benefit that outweighs the confusion. just correctly implement the revert-buffer optimizations the way i've outlined them, and you'll get everything nice and speedy without any need for a kludgy vfork equivalent. > > andy > > andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 04:29:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA26716; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 04:29:01 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA26620 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 04:27:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 90326 invoked by uid 50); 16 Nov 2001 09:27:50 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 90281 invoked by uid 0); 16 Nov 2001 09:27:49 -0000 Received: from dialupb219.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.114.219) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 09:27:49 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF4DC3E.5D122AEF@666.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:28:30 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: Andy Piper , Paul Krause , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <002f01c16d81$c889d710$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87668cpv00.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: > > Andy> I still think we are actually missing a function, something > Andy> like `refresh-buffer', since revert-buffer is too > Andy> fierce. > > How about `sync-buffer' for the name? "Refresh" implies display > properties to me, ie, redoing all the expensive operations (fontlock, > semantic parsing) for the whole buffer. Exactly what you don't want. > > For implementation, try something rsync-like and only revert those > regions of the buffer with actual changes. Since AFAIK font-lock is > line-oriented, a diff with a temporary file (buffer image) and a merge > in Lisp should be satisfactory. Since the diff is used immediately, > no context is needed, this should be only a few lines of Lisp to parse > and execute a non-context-diff patch. It would probably make sense to > look at font-lock with a view to optimizing line-oriented changes. > > But now you've got several file i/o operations to worry about. And > this function might be called on non-text buffers, where diff may do > crazy things. Getting this right would be tricky. egad, stephen :-). you're way out in left field here. this [hopefully] isn't anything like what andy had in mind, and it's total overkill. see my last posting about optimizations in insert-file-contents for reverting buffers with few changes; imho that is already somewhat of an overkill. ben > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 05:14:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA29241; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 05:14:04 -0500 Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu (rum.cs.yale.edu [128.36.229.169]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA29225 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 05:13:56 -0500 Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id fAGADtB04849 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 05:13:55 -0500 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: lists.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <002f01c16d81$c889d710$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <3BF4DB7F.62D620FB@666.com> Date: 16 Nov 2001 05:13:50 -0500 Message-ID: <5lhervnhup.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Path: rum.cs.yale.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu X-Trace: 16 Nov 2001 05:13:50 -0500, rum.cs.yale.edu Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing writes: > [essentially by just deleting and replacing the changed section]. to work > properly in the case of coding systems, etc. you need to insert into > a temp buffer and do the compare. we don't actually implement this code > currently, but fsf does (but DO NOT TRY to copy their implementation, > you'll just cause more grief for yourself). Damn! And I thought the main advantage of XEmacs was that they could just take our code and run with it ;-( Stefan PS: admittedly, this part of the code is probably not too pretty. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 12:30:55 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29690; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:30:04 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29592; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:28:49 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAGHSij03452; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolfe.bea.com (wolfe.beasys.com [172.17.10.130]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29501; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:28:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011116092931.01bd6608@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:30:00 -0800 To: Ben Wing , "Stephen J. Turnbull" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Cc: Andy Piper , Paul Krause , XEmacs Beta List In-Reply-To: <3BF4DC3E.5D122AEF@666.com> References: <002f01c16d81$c889d710$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87668cpv00.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 02:28 AM 11/16/2001 -0700, Ben Wing wrote: >egad, stephen :-). you're way out in left field here. this [hopefully] >isn't >anything like what andy had in mind, and it's total overkill. see my last >posting about optimizations in insert-file-contents for reverting buffers with >few changes; imho that is already somewhat of an overkill. Lets back up a bit here, I am only trying to hit the sweet spot of reverting buffers with NO changes. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 13:28:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01530; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:28:06 -0500 Received: from pentagon.cisco.com (pentagon.cisco.com [161.44.85.169]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01503 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:27:52 -0500 Received: from cia.cisco.com (mirapoint@cia.cisco.com [161.44.85.200]) by pentagon.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA07633 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from cisco.com (hrn2-dhcp-161-44-86-226.cisco.com [161.44.86.226]) by cia.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ASQ06708 (AUTH lday); Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:27:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BF55B07.6A3D1897@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:29:27 -0500 From: Luuwen Day X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XEmacs Beta Test Subject: Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I am compiling XEmacs 21.4.5. Can anyone tell me what does this error mean ? Luuwen ============================ ./temacs -nd -batch -l /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/../lisp/loadup.el dump Loading /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/../lisp/loadup.el... Using load-path (/auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp) Using module-load-path (/auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/modules) Loading very-early-lisp... Loading /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp/dumped-lisp.el... Loading /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp/backquote.elc... Loading /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp/bytecomp-runtime.elc... Loading /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp/find-paths.elc... Loading /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp/packages.elc... Loading /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp/setup-paths.elc... Loading /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp/dump-paths.elc... Loading /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp/subr.elc... 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Finding pointers to doc strings...done Dumping under the name xemacs unexec(): dldump(/auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs): ld.so.1: ./temacs: fatal: /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs: unknown dynamic entry: 1879048176 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 14:04:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04615; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:04:03 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04563 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:03:25 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EF43420; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:03:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C31638; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:03:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id LAA15586; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:03:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111161903.LAA15586@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Luuwen Day Cc: XEmacs Beta Test Subject: Re: Question Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:29:27 EST." <3BF55B07.6A3D1897@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:03:21 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Luuwen Day wrote: > unexec(): dldump(/auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs): > ld.so.1: > ./temacs: fatal: /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs: > unknown > dynamic entry: 1879048176 It means that unexec() does not support (or work on) your platform or current configuration. As you did not say what it is (you didn't send the contents of the "Installation" file), there is currently a near-zero chance of getting it fixed. Unfortunately, unless you're running on a fairly common system, getting it fixed, even if you give the contents of Installation, is pretty small. Unexec bugs are often non-trivial to fix. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 17:46:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA18814; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:45:14 -0500 Received: from femail39.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail39.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA18655 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:44:06 -0500 Received: from somanetworks.com ([24.156.50.192]) by femail39.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011116224401.KBAW644.femail39.sdc1.sfba.home.com@somanetworks.com>; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:44:01 -0800 Received: (from georgn@localhost) by somanetworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fAGMhxm08041; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:43:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Question From: Georg Nikodym To: Darryl Okahata Cc: Luuwen Day , XEmacs Beta Test In-Reply-To: <200111161903.LAA15586@mina.soco.agilent.com> References: <200111161903.LAA15586@mina.soco.agilent.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.1+cvs.2001.11.14.08.58 (Preview Release) Date: 16 Nov 2001 17:43:59 -0500 Message-Id: <1005950639.1919.16.camel@keller> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Fri, 2001-11-16 at 14:03, Darryl Okahata wrote: > Luuwen Day wrote: > > > unexec(): dldump(/auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs): > > ld.so.1: > > ./temacs: fatal: /auto/vsc-tios/lday/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs: > > unknown > > dynamic entry: 1879048176 > > It means that unexec() does not support (or work on) your > platform or current configuration. > > As you did not say what it is (you didn't send the contents of the > "Installation" file), there is currently a near-zero chance of getting > it fixed. Unfortunately, unless you're running on a fairly common > system, getting it fixed, even if you give the contents of Installation, > is pretty small. Unexec bugs are often non-trivial to fix. This is the building XEmacs on Solaris with a bad version of gcc or GNU's ld or somesuch that is almost an FAQ. Other people on this list have found ways around this issue. Maybe this note will twig their memories. I know this because I was involved, a lifetime ago, in fixing unexec() on Solaris in the 2.5 timeframe, which lead to the development of the dldump() call (which appeared in 2.6/7). My memory is fuzzing everyday ;-) --Georg From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 19:21:44 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23329; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:21:22 -0500 Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23293 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:20:47 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7664D6B; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:20:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4A3622; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:20:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id QAA21932; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:20:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111170020.QAA21932@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Georg Nikodym Cc: Luuwen Day , XEmacs Beta Test Subject: Re: Question Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "16 Nov 2001 17:43:59 EST." <1005950639.1919.16.camel@keller> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:20:45 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Georg Nikodym wrote: > This is the building XEmacs on Solaris with a bad version of gcc or > GNU's ld or somesuch that is almost an FAQ. OK, I didn't know that ... (rummaging through google) ... Ah!, here it is (thanks for the pointer!): http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&selm=m1ite6ndz5.fsf%40europe.nortel.com It's already documented in PROBLEMS. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 21:08:43 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28991; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:08:11 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA28961 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:07:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 76615 invoked by uid 50); 17 Nov 2001 02:07:53 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 76543 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2001 02:07:52 -0000 Received: from dialupd185.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.116.185) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 17 Nov 2001 02:07:52 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF5C6A2.AD1ED071@666.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:08:34 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Piper CC: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Andy Piper , Paul Krause , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <002f01c16d81$c889d710$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87668cpv00.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4.3.2.7.2.20011116092931.01bd6608@san-francisco.beasys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , yup, that's exactly what my original proposal concerned. are you in agreement with it? Andy Piper wrote: > > At 02:28 AM 11/16/2001 -0700, Ben Wing wrote: > >egad, stephen :-). you're way out in left field here. this [hopefully] > >isn't > >anything like what andy had in mind, and it's total overkill. see my last > >posting about optimizations in insert-file-contents for reverting buffers with > >few changes; imho that is already somewhat of an overkill. > > Lets back up a bit here, I am only trying to hit the sweet spot of > reverting buffers with NO changes. > > andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 21:20:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA29579; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:20:03 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA29522 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:19:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 94974 invoked by uid 50); 17 Nov 2001 02:19:07 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 94915 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2001 02:19:06 -0000 Received: from dialupd185.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.116.185) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 17 Nov 2001 02:19:06 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF5C943.6E45E086@666.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:19:47 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: Kyle Jones , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] 21.1.4-mule: auto save doubles escape chars References: <9ro19k$eut@ice.wonderworks.com> <87ofmmljdp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BEF1F1C.9E907534@666.com> <15344.34269.806248.883487@ice.wonderworks.com> <87r8r3xeyz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BF1A926.91706B3C@666.com> <87ofm6ujo2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , go ahead, i have no problems with this. since i've already done all the work getting escape-quoted working across the board in 21.5, i'm going to leave it in for now. "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > What I'm leaning toward for 21.4 is Kyle's patch plus a charset sanity > check, preferably at about the level of write-region-internal (or > wherever it will signal on users trying to save with incompatible > coding systems too). Rationale: > > >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing writes: > > Ben> maybe. however, saving in many coding systems will > Ben> positively lose data in many situations. > > Agreed. _But the user is just about to shoot himself in the foot > anyway._ C-x C-s doesn't do the check you suggest, although it > should. You could say "well, that's a reason to have more accuracy in > the autosave" but oops! C-x C-s just deleted the autosave. > > Ben> also, in your scheme we'd have to save the coding system in > Ben> the auto-save file. > > I don't see why an auto-save should have any differences from what > would be produced by save-buffer at that point. The main issue AFAICT > would be adding incompatible characters after the last save-buffer, > when a Mule-aware user would explicitly fix the coding system. This > would be taken care of by adding the pre-save check. Yes, users will > often get this wrong until we provide better support for them. (For a > start, suggest escape-quoted "if you don't know.") But sometimes > they'll get it right, which is better than the current situation where > they silently get a file full of "~" on save-buffer, and escape-quoted > (which gets recovered incorrectly in VM) in auto-saves. > > Unless there are applications that do recover-file without user > intervention. It's not obvious to me that we should attempt to > support that; such an application really should be providing for its > own needs. > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 22:20:41 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA32105; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:20:13 -0500 Received: from femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.26]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA32025; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:19:07 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011117031902.VOAA612.femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:19:02 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: "Ben Wing" , "Paul Krause" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:19:08 -0800 Message-ID: <003401c16f16$9e74c160$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <87668cpv00.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: > > Andy> I still think we are actually missing a function, something > Andy> like `refresh-buffer', since revert-buffer is too > Andy> fierce. > > How about `sync-buffer' for the name? "Refresh" implies display > properties to me, ie, redoing all the expensive operations (fontlock, > semantic parsing) for the whole buffer. Exactly what you don't want. > > For implementation, try something rsync-like and only revert those > regions of the buffer with actual changes. Since AFAIK font-lock is > line-oriented, a diff with a temporary file (buffer image) and a merge > in Lisp should be satisfactory. Since the diff is used immediately, > no context is needed, this should be only a few lines of Lisp to parse > and execute a non-context-diff patch. It would probably make sense to > look at font-lock with a view to optimizing line-oriented changes. > > But now you've got several file i/o operations to worry about. And > this function might be called on non-text buffers, where diff may do > crazy things. Getting this right would be tricky. I still think you are all looking at this from the wrong angle. I am *only* trying to hit a sweetspot for version-controlled buffers where the only thing that has changed is the modtime. Version-control implies source-code so I suspect all the arguments about hooks and coding-systems and composed buffers are moot because you would never want or care this optimization for those buffers. So lets try another approach. The problem with the current hooks is that they do not interrupt the flow of control they just allow you to add extra control. So why not introduce an extra hook, something like revert-buffer-optimize-revert-hook that returns t if it succeeds and nil otherwise. If it returns t then revert-buffer skips to the post-processing. Then we could install an optimization on a per-mode basis (e.g. cc-mode) and most everyone would be happy. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 16 23:58:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA04868; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:58:07 -0500 Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA04850; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:57:45 -0500 Received: from modem-828.dewgong.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.107.60] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 164xXz-0003eA-00; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:57:44 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164xcu-0005CL-00; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:02:48 +0000 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: fix for gtk-faces.el References: <87n11qla3c.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> <87itcew7ve.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.5-b3 (i686-pc-linux) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 17 Nov 2001 05:02:48 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87itcew7ve.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "14 Nov 2001 08:47:49 +0900") Message-ID: <877ksq56rr.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>> "jpw" == John Paul Wallington writes: > > jpw> I have a fix for XEmacs 21.4.5. When I built --with-gtk > jpw> default faces weren't setup. > > Thanks for the analysis and proposed fix. Beware tyros bearing patches! They may shoot themselves in the foot! I guess the guts of gtk-init-device-faces were quoted for a reason; if you apply my fix then the default faces *are* setup just so, *but* you cannot change them with M-x customize-face or a custom-set-faces form. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 17 04:15:47 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA17501; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:14:16 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA17341; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:13:02 -0500 Received: from pchegra1.mppmu.mpg.de (pD9E4D949.dip.t-dialin.net [217.228.217.73]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA17220 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:12:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by pchegra1.mppmu.mpg.de (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id fAFAhLm03596 for crashes@xemacs.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:43:21 +0100 Message-Id: <200111151043.fAFAhLm03596@pchegra1.mppmu.mpg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Daniel Kranich To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: xemacs 21.4.5 crash at startup Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:43:21 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Dear all, this is my first bug report, so I hope I'm doing it right. I'm running a Suse 7.3 (but a 2.4.14 kernel) on a 700 MHz Athlon with 256 MB memory; gcc version 2.95.3. After compiling xemacs 21.4.5 it crashes at startup. Configure, crash and gdb output are attached. regards daniel kranich configure --with-msw=no  gives: ... XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation:   Source code location:              /home/daniel/xemacs-21.4.5   Installation prefix:               /usr/local   Operating system description file: `s/linux.h'   Machine description file:          `m/intel386.h'   Compiler:                          gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow   Relocating allocator for buffers:  no   GNU version of malloc:             yes     - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System:   Compiling in support for the X window system:     - X Windows headers location:                 /usr/X11/include     - X Windows libraries location:               /usr/X11/lib     - Handling WM_COMMAND properly.   Using Lucid menubars.   Using Lucid scrollbars.   Using Motif dialog boxes.   Using Motif native widgets. TTY:   Compiling in support for ncurses.   Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images:   Compiling in support for GIF  images (builtin).   Compiling in support for XPM  images.   Compiling in support for PNG  images.   Compiling in support for JPEG images.   Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound:   Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases:   Compiling in support for Berkeley database.   Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Mail:   Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features:   Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. /home/daniel/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs gives: Fatal error (11). ... Lisp backtrace follows:   # bind (frame-being-created)   make-frame(nil #)   frame-initialize()   # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left)   command-line()   # (unwind-protect ...)   normal-top-level()   # (condition-case ... . error)   # (catch top-level ...) gdb gives: GNU gdb 20010316 Copyright 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-suse-linux"... Core was generated by `src/xemacs'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpng.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libdl.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdb-3.1.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libdb-3.1.so Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libncurses.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libncurses.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libutil.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libutil.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/ld-linux.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_files.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_files.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_dns.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_dns.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libresolv.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libresolv.so.2 #0  0x40533861 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) where #0  0x40533861 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1  0x080a9ca3 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at emacs.c:539 #2   #3  0x402b9888 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #4  0x402b9bdf in xtWidgetAlloc () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #5  0x402b9dc0 in xtCreate () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #6  0x402ba71b in _XtCreatePopupShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #7  0x402ba7bd in XtCreatePopupShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #8  0x0817ad50 in x_create_widgets (f=0x8488590, lisp_window_id=136386244,     parent=136386244) at frame-x.c:1957 #9  0x0817b32d in x_init_frame_1 (f=0x8488590, props=136386244) at frame-x.c:2184 #10 0x080fed6c in Fmake_frame (props=136386244, device=138360504) at frame.c:395 #11 0x080b0f1c in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffea58) at eval.c:3528 #12 0x0808bf79 in execute_optimized_program (     program=0x84884b8 "Æ \210Ç ?­&È\fÉ \"¬\027Ê\r\013\"\022Ë\rÈ\tÌ \"@\"\211\020\026\020Í\r!\025Î\016\021!\210Ï\211\024\207", stack_depth=5, constants_data=0x82aa4f8)     at bytecode.c:746 #13 0x0808bc59 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=137261624, nargs=0, args=0xbfffeb9c)     at bytecode.c:515 #14 0x080b10bf in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffeb98) at eval.c:3563 #15 0x0808bf79 in execute_optimized_program (     program=0x83f2f90 "\013A\035ÆÇ\032\031È\r!\025\bÉa«\004Ê \210ËÌ!«\004Í \210\f«\017\016\035¬\013ÎÏÐ\f!ÑQ! \210Ò \210*Ó \210Ô \210rÕÖ!q\210× \210ØÙ!\210\016!Úa«\005\016\" \210)Û Üa«\bÝ ¬\004Þ \210ß \210Ù\026#Ý ­\004àÇ!)\207moA\001", stack_depth=4,     constants_data=0x8339bd0) at bytecode.c:746 #16 0x0808bc59 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=137580756, nargs=0, args=0xbfffecdc)     at bytecode.c:515 #17 0x080b10bf in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffecd8) at eval.c:3563 #18 0x0808bf79 in execute_optimized_program (     program=0x83e1148 "\t«\005ÆÇ!\207È\021É \211\034«\025\fG\rGW«\016Ê\r!Ê\f!k«\005Ë\f!\025)Ì\r!\025Í \210Î \210\013®\aÏÐ!­\002È\eÑ\016#\016$\"\022\013«\tÒÓÔ\n\"Õ\"\210\n¬\004Ö \210×\n\016%\b\016&\013%\210Ø \210)\016!¬\022\016\"«\016ÙÚÛ\016'!\016\"\"ÜÈ#\210\016!¬\023\b¬\006Ý\016(!\210Ý\016)!\210Ý\016*!\210Þ\216ß \210)\016+­\003à \207 or re¡", stack_depth=7,     constants_data=0x8339a10) at bytecode.c:746 #19 0x0808bc59 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=137580700, nargs=0, args=0xbfffed84)     at bytecode.c:515 #20 0x080b0832 in Feval (form=137554788) at eval.c:3388 #21 0x080b6b06 in condition_case_1 (handlers=136386340, bfun=0x80aff00 ,     barg=137554788, hfun=0x8094700 , harg=136386244) at eval.c:1651 #22 0x0809478f in top_level_1 (dummy=136386244) at cmdloop.c:206 #23 0x080b69cc in internal_catch (tag=136462340, func=0x8094760 ,     arg=136386244, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1317 #24 0x08094052 in initial_command_loop (load_me=136386244) at cmdloop.c:285 #25 0x080aaacd in xemacs_21_4_5_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2353 #26 0x080ac7f9 in main () at emacs.c:2782 #27 0x405227ee in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 17 04:35:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA18796; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:35:04 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA18710; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:34:01 -0500 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA18690; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:33:50 -0500 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1651r8-00077i-03; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:33:46 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.9.199]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1651qx-0E6zceC; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:33:35 +0100 To: Daniel Kranich Cc: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Re: xemacs 21.4.5 crash at startup References: <200111151043.fAFAhLm03596@pchegra1.mppmu.mpg.de> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 227 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Kranich writes: Daniel> Dear all, Daniel> this is my first bug report, so I hope I'm doing it Daniel> right. I'm running a Suse Hi Daniel, that's pretty good for your first report! If possible, please install the latest net-utils package (1.23) and then use Help->Send Bug Report... or M-x report-emacs-bug This will make your life easier and give the developers all the details they need. Best regards, Adrian Daniel> 7.3 (but a 2.4.14 kernel) on a 700 MHz Athlon with 256 MB Daniel> memory; gcc version Daniel> 2.95.3. Daniel> After compiling xemacs 21.4.5 it crashes at startup. Daniel> Configure, crash and gdb output are attached. Daniel> regards Daniel> daniel kranich Daniel> configure --with-msw=no  gives: Daniel> ... Daniel> XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Daniel> Compilation / Installation: Daniel>   Source code location:              /home/daniel/xemacs-21.4.5 Daniel>   Installation prefix:               /usr/local Daniel>   Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Daniel>   Machine description file:          `m/intel386.h' Daniel>   Compiler:                          gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline Daniel> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Daniel>   Relocating allocator for buffers:  no Daniel>   GNU version of malloc:             yes Daniel>     - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Daniel> Window System: Daniel>   Compiling in support for the X window system: Daniel>     - X Windows headers location:                 /usr/X11/include Daniel>     - X Windows libraries location:               /usr/X11/lib Daniel>     - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Daniel>   Using Lucid menubars. Daniel>   Using Lucid scrollbars. Daniel>   Using Motif dialog boxes. Daniel>   Using Motif native widgets. Daniel> TTY: Daniel>   Compiling in support for ncurses. Daniel>   Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Daniel> Images: Daniel>   Compiling in support for GIF  images (builtin). Daniel>   Compiling in support for XPM  images. Daniel>   Compiling in support for PNG  images. Daniel>   Compiling in support for JPEG images. Daniel>   Compiling in support for TIFF images. Daniel> Sound: Daniel>   Compiling in support for sound (native). Daniel> Databases: Daniel>   Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Daniel>   Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Daniel> Internationalization: Daniel> Mail: Daniel>   Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Daniel> Other Features: Daniel>   Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Daniel> /home/daniel/xemacs-21.4.5/src/xemacs gives: Daniel> Fatal error (11). Daniel> ... Daniel> Lisp backtrace follows: Daniel>   # bind (frame-being-created) Daniel>   make-frame(nil #) Daniel>   frame-initialize() Daniel>   # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) Daniel>   command-line() Daniel>   # (unwind-protect ...) Daniel>   normal-top-level() Daniel>   # (condition-case ... . error) Daniel>   # (catch top-level ...) Daniel> gdb gives: Daniel> GNU gdb 20010316 Daniel> Copyright 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Daniel> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are Daniel> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Daniel> Type "show copying" to see the conditions. Daniel> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details. Daniel> This GDB was configured as "i386-suse-linux"... Daniel> Core was generated by `src/xemacs'. Daniel> Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpng.so.2...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.1...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.1 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/libdl.so.2 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdb-3.1.so...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libdb-3.1.so Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.2...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.2 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/libncurses.so.5...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/libncurses.so.5 Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.6 Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/libutil.so.1...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/libutil.so.1 Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Daniel> Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6 Daniel> ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/ld-linux.so.2 Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_files.so.2...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_files.so.2 Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_dns.so.2...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_dns.so.2 Daniel> Reading symbols from /lib/libresolv.so.2...done. Daniel> Loaded symbols for /lib/libresolv.so.2 Daniel> #0  0x40533861 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 Daniel> (gdb) where Daniel> #0  0x40533861 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 Daniel> #1  0x080a9ca3 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at emacs.c:539 Daniel> #2   Daniel> #3  0x402b9888 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Daniel> #4  0x402b9bdf in xtWidgetAlloc () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Daniel> #5  0x402b9dc0 in xtCreate () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Daniel> #6  0x402ba71b in _XtCreatePopupShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Daniel> #7  0x402ba7bd in XtCreatePopupShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 Daniel> #8  0x0817ad50 in x_create_widgets (f=0x8488590, lisp_window_id=136386244, Daniel>     parent=136386244) at frame-x.c:1957 Daniel> #9  0x0817b32d in x_init_frame_1 (f=0x8488590, props=136386244) at Daniel> frame-x.c:2184 Daniel> #10 0x080fed6c in Fmake_frame (props=136386244, device=138360504) at Daniel> frame.c:395 Daniel> #11 0x080b0f1c in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xbfffea58) at eval.c:3528 Daniel> #12 0x0808bf79 in execute_optimized_program ( Daniel>     program=0x84884b8 "Æ \210Ç ?­&È\fÉ \"¬\027Ê\r\013\"\022Ë\rÈ\tÌ Daniel> \"@\"\211\020\026\020Í\r!\025Î\016\021!\210Ï\211\024\207", stack_depth=5, Daniel> constants_data=0x82aa4f8) Daniel>     at bytecode.c:746 Daniel> #13 0x0808bc59 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=137261624, nargs=0, Daniel> args=0xbfffeb9c) Daniel>     at bytecode.c:515 Daniel> #14 0x080b10bf in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffeb98) at eval.c:3563 Daniel> #15 0x0808bf79 in execute_optimized_program ( Daniel>     program=0x83f2f90 "\013A\035ÆÇ\032\031È\r!\025\bÉa«\004Ê \210ËÌ!«\004Í Daniel> \210\f«\017\016\035¬\013ÎÏÐ\f!ÑQ! \210Ò \210*Ó \210Ô \210rÕÖ!q\210× Daniel> \210ØÙ!\210\016!Úa«\005\016\" \210)Û Üa«\bÝ ¬\004Þ \210ß \210Ù\026#Ý Daniel> ­\004àÇ!)\207moA\001", stack_depth=4, Daniel>     constants_data=0x8339bd0) at bytecode.c:746 Daniel> #16 0x0808bc59 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=137580756, nargs=0, Daniel> args=0xbfffecdc) Daniel>     at bytecode.c:515 Daniel> #17 0x080b10bf in Ffuncall (nargs=1, args=0xbfffecd8) at eval.c:3563 Daniel> #18 0x0808bf79 in execute_optimized_program ( Daniel>     program=0x83e1148 "\t«\005ÆÇ!\207È\021É Daniel> \211\034«\025\fG\rGW«\016Ê\r!Ê\f!k«\005Ë\f!\025)Ì\r!\025Í \210Î Daniel> \210\013®\aÏÐ!­\002È\eÑ\016#\016$\"\022\013«\tÒÓÔ\n\"Õ\"\210\n¬\004Ö Daniel> \210×\n\016%\b\016&\013%\210Ø Daniel> \210)\016!¬\022\016\"«\016ÙÚÛ\016'!\016\"\"ÜÈ#\210\016!¬\023\b¬\006Ý\016(!\210Ý\016)!\210Ý\016*!\210Þ\216ß Daniel> \210)\016+­\003à \207 or re¡", stack_depth=7, Daniel>     constants_data=0x8339a10) at bytecode.c:746 Daniel> #19 0x0808bc59 in funcall_compiled_function (fun=137580700, nargs=0, Daniel> args=0xbfffed84) Daniel>     at bytecode.c:515 Daniel> #20 0x080b0832 in Feval (form=137554788) at eval.c:3388 Daniel> #21 0x080b6b06 in condition_case_1 (handlers=136386340, bfun=0x80aff00 Daniel> , Daniel>     barg=137554788, hfun=0x8094700 , harg=136386244) at eval.c:1651 Daniel> #22 0x0809478f in top_level_1 (dummy=136386244) at cmdloop.c:206 Daniel> #23 0x080b69cc in internal_catch (tag=136462340, func=0x8094760 , Daniel>     arg=136386244, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1317 Daniel> #24 0x08094052 in initial_command_loop (load_me=136386244) at cmdloop.c:285 Daniel> #25 0x080aaacd in xemacs_21_4_5_i686_pc_linux () at emacs.c:2353 Daniel> #26 0x080ac7f9 in main () at emacs.c:2782 Daniel> #27 0x405227ee in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 17 05:09:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA20613; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:09:03 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA20579 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:08:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 14030 invoked by uid 50); 17 Nov 2001 10:08:21 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 14003 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2001 10:08:20 -0000 Received: from dialupd120.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.116.120) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 17 Nov 2001 10:08:20 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF6373F.F702AE3@666.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 03:09:03 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Piper CC: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Paul Krause , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <003401c16f16$9e74c160$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper wrote: > > > >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: > > > > Andy> I still think we are actually missing a function, something > > Andy> like `refresh-buffer', since revert-buffer is too > > Andy> fierce. > > > > How about `sync-buffer' for the name? "Refresh" implies display > > properties to me, ie, redoing all the expensive operations (fontlock, > > semantic parsing) for the whole buffer. Exactly what you don't want. > > > > For implementation, try something rsync-like and only revert those > > regions of the buffer with actual changes. Since AFAIK font-lock is > > line-oriented, a diff with a temporary file (buffer image) and a merge > > in Lisp should be satisfactory. Since the diff is used immediately, > > no context is needed, this should be only a few lines of Lisp to parse > > and execute a non-context-diff patch. It would probably make sense to > > look at font-lock with a view to optimizing line-oriented changes. > > > > But now you've got several file i/o operations to worry about. And > > this function might be called on non-text buffers, where diff may do > > crazy things. Getting this right would be tricky. > > I still think you are all looking at this from the wrong angle. I am *only* > trying to hit a sweetspot for version-controlled buffers where the only > thing that has changed is the modtime. Version-control implies source-code > so I suspect all the arguments about hooks and coding-systems and composed > buffers are moot because you would never want or care this optimization for > those buffers. > > So lets try another approach. The problem with the current hooks is that > they do not interrupt the flow of control they just allow you to add extra > control. So why not introduce an extra hook, something like > revert-buffer-optimize-revert-hook that returns t if it succeeds and nil > otherwise. If it returns t then revert-buffer skips to the post-processing. > Then we could install an optimization on a per-mode basis (e.g. cc-mode) and > most everyone would be happy. why do we need this? why don't we just implement the general method i laid out concerning how to optimize this? what "mode-specific" or whatever-else-specific optimizations do we need? you've never specified any objections to my proposal, yet you propose a different one that introduces yet another hook, for no obvious reason, and would force all modes to do something that [as far as i know] is not mode-specific and has a general solution, as i laid out. > > andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 17 05:33:39 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA21587; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:33:09 -0500 Received: from bom1.mantraonline.com (bom1.mantraonline.com [202.56.240.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA21570 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:32:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 05:32:51 -0500 Received: from konkravalavsnl ([202.56.241.75]) by bom1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GMXXDX03.BO2 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:04:45 +0530 Message-ID: <030801c16f52$cbce9780$1af138ca@net> From: "Mr. Neville Konkravala." To: Subject: Data Capture / Entry / Coding Service. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id FAA21570 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Dated: 17th, November 2001. Dear Sir / Ma'm: I came upon your email address at the following web page :- http://www.finseth.com/~fin/emacs.html Understandably you must be a very preoccupied person - so without wasting a lot of your time, let me get down straight to the purpose of this email. You see the company I am employed with specializes in the field of data or text capturing. 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 17 12:41:16 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06904; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:40:26 -0500 Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06831; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:39:14 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011117173913.KUWK5049.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:39:13 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Ben Wing" , "Andy Piper" Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Paul Krause" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:39:18 -0800 Message-ID: <004301c16f8e$c8b467f0$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3BF5C6A2.AD1ED071@666.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > yup, that's exactly what my original proposal concerned. > > are you in agreement with it? Your original proposal concerned optimizing away after-revert-hook, I still don't see how that jives with what I am trying to achieve. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 17 12:48:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07288; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:48:02 -0500 Received: from femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.107]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06941; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:41:05 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011117174101.IMLE622.femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:41:01 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Ben Wing" Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Paul Krause" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:41:06 -0800 Message-ID: <004401c16f8f$0948b190$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3BF6373F.F702AE3@666.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > why do we need this? why don't we just implement the general > method i laid out > concerning how to optimize this? what "mode-specific" or > whatever-else-specific > optimizations do we need? you've never specified any objections > to my proposal, > yet you propose a different one that introduces yet another hook, > for no obvious > reason, and would force all modes to do something that [as far as > i know] is not > mode-specific and has a general solution, as i laid out. I think you need to lay it out a bit more clearly, given that both Stephen and I seem to be misunderstanding. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 17 22:51:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA13268; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:50:17 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA13217 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:49:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 38291 invoked by uid 50); 18 Nov 2001 03:49:51 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 38240 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2001 03:49:51 -0000 Received: from dialupb233.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.114.233) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 03:49:51 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF7300B.BD8C5211@666.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:50:35 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Piper CC: Andy Piper , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Paul Krause , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <004301c16f8e$c8b467f0$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper wrote: > > > yup, that's exactly what my original proposal concerned. > > > > are you in agreement with it? > > Your original proposal concerned optimizing away after-revert-hook, I still > don't see > how that jives with what I am trying to achieve. what are you trying to achieve? i explained how to optimize away after-revert-hook and after-change-hook. this should eliminate all slowness you're complaining about. > > andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 17 23:55:46 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17946; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:54:03 -0500 Received: from femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.143]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17817; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:52:54 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011118045249.QXGA622.femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:52:49 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Ben Wing" Cc: "Andy Piper" , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Paul Krause" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:52:54 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c16fec$e23e1910$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <3BF7300B.BD8C5211@666.com> Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > what are you trying to achieve? i explained how to optimize away > after-revert-hook and after-change-hook. this should eliminate > all slowness > you're complaining about. Ben, Please add some more words to your explanation so that it makes sense to lesser mortals like me. Thanks andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 18 01:51:41 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA29810; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:51:07 -0500 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net (tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net [207.108.112.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA29781 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:50:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 68748 invoked by uid 50); 18 Nov 2001 06:50:54 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-xemacs-beta@xemacs.org@fixme Received: (qmail 68695 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2001 06:50:53 -0000 Received: from dialupb137.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO 666.com) (209.180.114.137) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 06:50:53 -0000 Message-ID: <3BF75A79.3738B917@666.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:51:37 -0700 From: Ben Wing Organization: Amor e Saudade X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Piper CC: Andy Piper , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Paul Krause , XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch References: <000001c16fec$e23e1910$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , replace the regular revert-buffer function with this: 1. remember the file size when you revert. 2. next time you revert, if the file size has changed, and the new file size is greater than some arbitrary value [e.g. 1 megabyte], do what we regularly do. otherwise: 3. create a temporary buffer. 4. disable change hooks in the buffer, e.g. bind them to nil. 5. do all the regular revert-buffer stuff, up to but not including after-revert-hook, but with the results going into the temp buffer. 6. compare to the original. 7. if no change, do nothing. otherwise, stop disabling the change hooks, copy the new buffer into the original, run the after-revert-hook. 8. if you want to optimize further, instead of just copying figure out how much text at the beginning and end haven't changed, and only copy the middle section that has changed. this might require c support. insert-file-contents already has code to do this kind of checking. 1 + 2 are only there as an optimization. deleting those steps won't make things any less safe but might temporarily use a large amount of memory in a situation where the optimization of 3 - 8 is unlikely to succeed. Andy Piper wrote: > > > what are you trying to achieve? i explained how to optimize away > > after-revert-hook and after-change-hook. this should eliminate > > all slowness > > you're complaining about. > > Ben, > > Please add some more words to your explanation so that it makes sense to > lesser mortals like me. > > Thanks > > andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 18 13:18:55 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01871; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:16:16 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01747; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:15:12 -0500 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 165VeG-0002OJ-06; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:22:28 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.8.100]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 165Ve2-0fxbiCC; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:22:14 +0100 Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: http://www.xemacs.org/ improvement work results X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Date: 18 Nov 2001 18:22:38 +0100 Lines: 52 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence (candidate 3)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Posted-To: comp.emacs.xemacs X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs as well. Hi All! Some of you might be interested in how many of this links behind http://www.xemacs.org/ are broken. I was, when I set out to test and improve the situation back in September 2001. I decided to use http://www.linklint.org/ for the purpose and found this: --------------------------------------------. file: urlsum.txt | --------------------------------------------| Linklint version: 2.3.3 | | Linklink checked 734 urls: | 625 were ok, 94 failed. 72 urls moved. | 7 hosts failed: 7 urls could be retried.| 18 files had failed urls. | There were 50 files with broken links. | --------------------------------------------' After putting in some work, using Google a lot, contacting many people, and inducing many page hits along the way I can report these results as of today: --------------------------------------------. file: urlsum.txt | --------------------------------------------| Linklint version: 2.3.5 | | Linklint checked 796 urls: | 776 were ok, 7 failed. 36 urls moved. | 5 hosts failed: 5 urls could be retried.| 7 files had failed urls. | There were 14 files with broken links. | --------------------------------------------' Of these remaining problems most are caused by the dynamics of the internet. Some of our mirrors deny requests from outside their top-level domains. Some sites are not reachable 100% of the time. Best regards, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 18 14:02:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04986; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:01:03 -0500 Received: from www2.mailru.com (www2.mailru.com [80.68.244.5]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04961 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:00:47 -0500 Received: by Pochtamt.Ru WebMail v1.9 id fAIJ2HJ10812 for ; Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:02:17 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <200111181902.fAIJ2HJ10812@www2.mailru.com> From: tony shahov To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Free WebMail HotBOX.ru X-Proxy-IP: [80.70.224.4] X-Originating-IP: [80.70.224.89] Subject: XEmacs developer wannabe Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hello, my name is Tony Shahov and I wold like to join your team, just in case you find my skills adequate. Some facts about myself. I am from Russia, St. Petersburg. I am 24. I work for Scientific and Research Institute of Electric and Physical Apparatus, Computer Tomography Laboratory as a Software Developer. I studied computer Science in Polytechnical Institute in St. Petersburg (not graduated). I have some expertise in using Linux (6 years) and some other Unices. Languages: tough C/C++ and Haskell, though I can list many more (including Lisp). Toolkits/Libraries: GTK, Qt, good overall understanding of commonly used Unix libraries. Emacs: Just common everyday usage. English: fluent, as you noticed so far. Nothing special probably, but I want to participate in a big open software project (for a great glory). Kind regards, Tony Shahov From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 18 16:47:51 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12517; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:46:02 -0500 Received: from florida.arsdigita.de (dragon.arsdigita.de [212.84.246.66]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12489 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:45:37 -0500 Received: from hniksic by florida.arsdigita.de with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 165Zku-0005DN-00 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:45:36 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: XEmacs developer wannabe References: <200111181902.fAIJ2HJ10812@www2.mailru.com> X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: &{dT~)Pu6V<0y?>3p$;@vh\`C7xB~A0T-J%Og)J,@-1%q6Q+, gs<-9M#&`I8cJp2b1{vPE|~+JE+gx;a7%BG{}nY^ehK1"q#rG O,Rn1A_Cy%t]V=Brv7h Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:45:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200111181902.fAIJ2HJ10812@www2.mailru.com> (tony shahov's message of "Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:02:17 +0300 (MSK)") Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Copyleft) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , tony shahov writes: > my name is Tony Shahov and I wold like to join your team, just in > case you find my skills adequate. [...] > Nothing special probably, but I want to participate in a big open > software project (for a great glory). Welcome to XEmacs. The way it works is, simply take a part of XEmacs which you think needs improvement, and work on it. Both bug fixes and cool new features are always desired. It is highly advisable to talk to people before implementing something, both to avoid duplicating work, and to make sure that the addition will not break something else. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 06:16:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA20668; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:15:07 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA20645; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:14:32 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 165mMo-00068s-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:13:34 +0900 To: John Paul Wallington Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: fix for gtk-faces.el References: <87n11qla3c.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> <87itcew7ve.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877ksq56rr.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 19 Nov 2001 20:13:34 +0900 In-Reply-To: <877ksq56rr.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Message-ID: <87wv0n3tep.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "jpw" == John Paul Wallington writes: jpw> I guess the guts of gtk-init-device-faces were quoted for a jpw> reason; Probably because a programmer in a big hurry ripped the code right out of another file, still trailing arteries and ligaments.... jpw> if you apply my fix then the default faces *are* setup just jpw> so, *but* you cannot change them with M-x customize-face or a jpw> custom-set-faces form. This isn't the fault of your patch. I don't know whether to blame the incompleteness of the GTK port or the general brokenness of Custom yet. Probably the latter. Look for recent threads on "can't set italic font" on xemacs-beta. I'll ask Bill P. Two comments on the patch itself. 1. It's preferable to have patches that list files as lisp/gtk-faces.el rather than ./lisp/gtk-faces.el. It's a minor thing, and I don't know how to get diff to produce that offhand. If and when you start using "cvs diff" this will solve itself. 2. No more text will be added to the ChangeLog.GTK file, ever. This is the ChangeLog for when GTK was a separate project. When GTK was merged into the mainline, a pointer to the ChangeLog.GTK was placed into the main ChangeLog, and since then all changes go there. You couldn't know that, though. Don't worry about 1, and I doubt you'll ever forget 2, now. :-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 06:28:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA21232; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:28:02 -0500 Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA21201 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:27:00 -0500 Received: from modem-3.lyre-tailed-anthias.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.39.3] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 165mZh-0001WB-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:26:54 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 165mej-0003mz-00 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:32:05 +0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: 21.5-b3: setting up default faces for gtk-xemacs From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.5-b3 (GTK) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 19 Nov 2001 11:32:05 +0000 Message-ID: <876687q9my.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 24 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Rather than submit this to xemacs-patches immediately, I thought it would be prudent to post it here first. The problem is that an XEmacs 21.5-b3 built --with-gtk doesn't set up default faces (on my system). To reproduce, start xemacs -q -vanilla and highlight a region with the mouse; is it visible? There is code in gtk-faces.el (namely gtk-init-device-faces) to set the 'highlight' face to look like GTK_STATE_PRELIGHT and 'zmacs-region' like GTK_STATE_SELECTED but it precludes further customization via M-x customize-face or a custom-set-faces form, which is probably why it was effectively disabled by quoting its main let* form. faces.el makes some useful default faces, but the gtk defaults were commented out. So I uncommented the commented-out gtk defaults and added additional ones. --=-=-= Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=diff Content-Description: lisp/faces.el gtk patch --- faces.el.orig Mon Nov 19 10:22:25 2001 +++ faces.el Mon Nov 19 10:35:51 2001 @@ -1770,25 +1770,30 @@ '(((x default color) . "darkseagreen2") ((x default color) . "green") ((x default grayscale) . "gray53") + ((gtk default color) . "darkseagreen2") + ((gtk default color) . "green") + ((gtk default grayscale) . "gray53") ((mswindows default color) . "darkseagreen2") ((mswindows default color) . "green") ((mswindows default grayscale) . "gray53")) 'global) (set-face-background-pixmap 'highlight '(((x default mono) . "gray1") -;; ((gtk default mono) . "gray1") + ((gtk default mono) . "gray1") ((mswindows default mono) . "gray1")) 'global) (set-face-background 'zmacs-region '(((x default color) . "gray65") ((x default grayscale) . "gray65") + ((gtk default color) . "gray65") + ((gtk default grayscale) . "gray65") ((mswindows default color) . "gray65") ((mswindows default grayscale) . "gray65")) 'global) (set-face-background-pixmap 'zmacs-region '(((x default mono) . "gray3") -;; ((gtk default mono) . "gray3") + ((gtk default mono) . "gray3") ((mswindows default mono) . "gray3")) 'global) @@ -1796,27 +1801,30 @@ '(((x default color) . "gray68") ((x default grayscale) . "gray68") ((x default mono) . [default foreground]) -;; ((gtk default color) . "gray68") -;; ((gtk default grayscale) . "gray68") -;; ((gtk default mono) . [default foreground]) + ((gtk default color) . "gray68") + ((gtk default grayscale) . "gray68") + ((gtk default mono) . [default foreground]) ((mswindows default color) . "gray68") ((mswindows default grayscale) . "gray68") ((mswindows default mono) . [default foreground])) 'global) (set-face-foreground 'list-mode-item-selected '(((x default mono) . [default background]) + ((gtk default mono) . [default background]) ((mswindows default mono) . [default background])) 'global) (set-face-background 'primary-selection '(((x default color) . "gray65") ((x default grayscale) . "gray65") + ((gtk default color) . "gray65") + ((gtk default grayscale) . "gray65") ((mswindows default color) . "gray65") ((mswindows default grayscale) . "gray65")) 'global) (set-face-background-pixmap 'primary-selection '(((x default mono) . "gray3") - ;;((gtk default mono) . "gray3") + ((gtk default mono) . "gray3") ((mswindows default mono) . "gray3")) 'global) @@ -1824,24 +1832,24 @@ '(((x default color) . "paleturquoise") ((x default color) . "green") ((x default grayscale) . "gray53") - ;;((gtk default color) . "paleturquoise") - ;;((gtk default color) . "green") - ;;((gtk default grayscale) . "gray53") + ((gtk default color) . "paleturquoise") + ((gtk default color) . "green") + ((gtk default grayscale) . "gray53") ((mswindows default color) . "paleturquoise") ((mswindows default color) . "green") ((mswindows default grayscale) . "gray53")) 'global) (set-face-background-pixmap 'secondary-selection '(((x default mono) . "gray1") - ;;((gtk default mono) . "gray1") + ((gtk default mono) . "gray1") ((mswindows default mono) . "gray1")) 'global) (set-face-background 'isearch '(((x default color) . "paleturquoise") ((x default color) . "green") - ;;((gtk default color) . "paleturquoise") - ;;((gtk default color) . "green") + ((gtk default color) . "paleturquoise") + ((gtk default color) . "green") ((mswindows default color) . "paleturquoise") ((mswindows default color) . "green")) 'global) --=-=-= -- John Paul Wallington --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 06:35:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA21567; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:35:02 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA21508; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:34:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA21475 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:33:04 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 165mek-0006A6-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:32:06 +0900 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: Daniel Kranich , crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Re: xemacs 21.4.5 crash at startup References: <200111151043.fAFAhLm03596@pchegra1.mppmu.mpg.de> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 19 Nov 2001 20:32:05 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87k7wn3sju.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Kranich writes: Daniel> Dear all, Daniel> this is my first bug report, so I hope I'm doing it Daniel> right. I'm running a Suse Say no more. This is the combreloc crash. APA> Hi Daniel, APA> that's pretty good for your first report! APA> If possible, please install the latest net-utils package APA> (1.23) and then use Agreed, do update the net-utils package, but don't bother to resubmit for this one. Fix is in 21.4.6 (not yet released). This crash affects _all_ Emacsen (and I mean GNU any version XEmacs any version). XEmacs has an easy workaround: ./configure --pdump [your options here]. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 09:35:46 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA30171; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:35:21 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn260.s.netic.de [212.9.163.4]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA30072; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:34:23 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165pS6-00005K-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:31:14 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:31:14 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011119.153114.730555450.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: stephen@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <87ofm4pxra.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87bsi6uf7u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011114.164515.730553790.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87ofm4pxra.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: 15 Nov 2001 11:35:05 +0900 Message-ID: <87ofm4pxra.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Sorry for being so quiet for a while ;-) I have a problem...to generate the list. Is there any "internal" or "hidden" function, which will list all fonts actually used by XEmacs instead of the list, XEmacs is believe to use? keep hacking the right site of life ! :-) Meino stephen> >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: stephen> stephen> Meino> Yes, the last hack did it for me. Interesting, that this stephen> Meino> "reset-font" command -- as specified below -- "unlocks" a stephen> Meino> dozen other fonts, I haven't even thought before. stephen> stephen> Can you post a list of them? stephen> stephen> -- stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp stephen> University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN stephen> Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; stephen> ask what your business can "do for" free software. stephen> From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 10:48:23 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02935; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:48:04 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.nortelnetworks.com [47.165.25.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02905 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:47:32 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAJFl6k18350 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:47:06 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:46:57 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W09473JY; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:46:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XGRJB5MM; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:45:59 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 165qdD-0000Hu-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:46:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15353.10599.248372.222793@europe.nortel.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:46:47 +0100 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: Andy Piper , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Crash with xemacs 21.4.4 In-Reply-To: <200110302120.NAA01099@mina.soco.agilent.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011030121700.00b7c7d0@san-francisco.beasys.com> <200110302120.NAA01099@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , [sorry to resurrect this, but I have some more info] Darryl Okahata writes: > Andy Piper wrote: > > > Right, but which Motif call. Maybe we could just not make the call - sure > > we might get a leak but doesn't seem so bad for delete_device() > > I'm not sure it's that simple, as the "offending function" is > XtDestroyWidget(). I've attached a purify fragment that describes > what's happening. Two things to note, though: > > 1. Purify stack traces are inverted. Most-recently-called functions are > at the top. > > 2. This is for XEmacs 21.4.4. Line numbers might be occasionally off, > as I was trying to tweak the code to further characterize this bug. > > Basically, all of the problems are being caused by internal Motif code, > deep in the bowels. I'm also seeing this, but I'm not using the graphical progress widget. What I do is: C-x C-f ~/test.c (make-frame-on-display "rpluim-1:0") [this is physically a different machine and screen] C-x C-c [on the new frame. doing it on the old frame works fine] This gives: #0 0xfec9a118 in _libc_kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.1 #1 0x77f48 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at /codes/rpluim/xemacs-21.4/src/emacs.c:539 #2 #3 0xfee929f4 in XFindContext () from /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4 #4 0xfee92930 in XFindContext () from /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4 #5 0xff297e54 in DisplayDestroy () from /usr/dt/lib/libXm.so.4 #6 0xfefbece0 in XtCallCallbackList () from /usr/openwin/lib/libXt.so.4 #7 0xfefc486c in XtPhase2Destroy () from /usr/openwin/lib/libXt.so.4 #8 0xfefc45d0 in _XtDoPhase2Destroy () from /usr/openwin/lib/libXt.so.4 #9 0xfefc43b4 in XtDestroyWidget () from /usr/openwin/lib/libXt.so.4 #10 0x15cf9c in x_delete_device (d=0x523f00) This is on Solaris 2.7, using 21.4.5. I'm going to download OpenMotif and see if that helps, since this points more towards Motif than XEmacs. Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 16:58:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA29030; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:57:20 -0500 Received: from femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.25]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA28852 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:55:20 -0500 Received: from home.com ([24.180.13.96]) by femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011119215513.ESSH633.femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:55:13 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF97FC0.9000601@home.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:55:12 -0500 From: "David A. Cobb" Organization: Excite/At-Home User via Cox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.6+) Gecko/20011119 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Further Adventures building r21-5-3/i686-pc-cygwin Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030809020807020409060507" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030809020807020409060507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, I figured the CVS problems had quieted down so it was safe to go back in the water and try building the latest beta. I expunged every trace of previous downloads and did a new: cvs checkout -r r21-5-latest-beta xemacs configure [see attached] make beta Once again, it died with the complaint Symbols definition as function is void: batch-force-update-one-directory [see encl(2)] This time, I tried looking for the function it's complaining about: find & grep uncovered the ONLY mention of this symbol is as a string in the following sequence of lisp/update-elc.el: ;; likewise, recompile autoload.el if out-of-date. (if (member autoload-arg update-elc-files-to-compile) (append '("-f" "batch-byte-compile-one-file") (list autoload-arg))) ;; then generate autoloads for lisp and maybe lisp/mule. (if (or need-to-rebuild-autoloads need-to-rebuild-mule-autoloads) '("-l" "autoload")) ;; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ????? (if need-to-rebuild-autoloads '("-f" "batch-force-update-one-directory" "../lisp")) ;; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ????? (if need-to-rebuild-mule-autoloads '("-f" "batch-force-update-one-directory" ;; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ?????"../lisp/mule")) (if need-to-recompile-autoloads '("-f" "batch-byte-compile-one-file" "../lisp/auto-autoloads.el")) ;; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ????? (if need-to-recompile-mule-autoloads '("-f" "batch-byte-compile-one-file" "../lisp/mule/auto-autoloads.el")) ;; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ????? ;; now load the autoloads and compile alles anderes. HEY, This looks strange! The /if/ forms that I highlighted above return this quoted list with the offending symbol-print-name as a string. But they don't put it *anywhere*! The other nearby /if/ forms do an /append/ with these command-line parameters. Perhaps these were once in some prog? form that returned the literal into a function where it was used - but it doesn't appear that they do so any longer. AND, according to the grep, there is NO defun for a "batch-force-update-one-directory" function anywhere in the source tree. SO, etwas ist abgevukket, nicht war? -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate. New PGP key 09/13/2001: : : Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B} "By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." --The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. French [tr.] Potentially Viral Software is any software for which you are not allowed to examine the source. Do not buy or use Potentially Viral Software! --------------030809020807020409060507 Content-Type: text/plain; name="tail-of-build.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="tail-of-build.log" Loading lisp.el... Loading page.el... Loading register.el... Loading iso8859-1.el... Loading paragraphs.el... Loading easymenu.el... Loading lisp-mode.el... Loading text-mode.el... Loading fill.el... Loading auto-save.el... Loading movemail.el... Loading float-sup.el... Loading itimer.el... Loading itimer-autosave.el... Loading printer.el... Loading gui.el... Loading mouse.el... Loading mode-motion.el... Loading toolbar.el... Loading scrollbar.el... Loading menubar.el... Loading dialog.el... Loading gutter.el... Loading select.el... Loading menubar-items.el... Loading gutter-items.el... Loading toolbar-items.el... Loading dialog-items.el... Loading coding.el... Loading code-files.el... Loading code-process.el... Loading code-cmds.el... Loading msw-glyphs.el... Loading msw-faces.el... Loading msw-mouse.el... Loading msw-init.el... Loading msw-select.el... Loading tty-init.el... Loading fontl-hooks.el... Loading auto-show.el... Loading loadhist.el... Loading loaddefs.el... Loading dumped-lisp.el... Loading dumped-lisp.el... Loading site-load.el... Bootstrapping from temacs... Static heap usage: 4552952 of 8650752 -- 4001k wasted Symbol's function definition is void: batch-force-update-one-directory xemacs exiting . Got a SIGCHLD; 1 unreaped children. Reaping losing child 0x045c3028 PID 3348549 make[1]: *** [update-elc.stamp] Error 255 Removing child 0x045c3028 PID 3348549 from chain. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/xemacs/r21-5-latest-beta/i686-pc-cygwin/src' Got a SIGCHLD; 1 unreaped children. 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WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- --------------030809020807020409060507-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 17:04:23 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA29694; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:04:06 -0500 Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA29519 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:02:46 -0500 Received: from modem-245.dewgong.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.104.245] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 165wUy-0005SB-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:02:41 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 165wa2-0004gk-00 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:07:54 +0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: 21.5-b3: setting up default faces for gtk-xemacs References: <876687q9my.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.5-b3 (GTK) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 19 Nov 2001 22:07:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: <876687q9my.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> (John Paul Wallington's message of "19 Nov 2001 11:32:05 +0000") Message-ID: <87lmh2tnwl.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Yet another attempt to get default faces under gtk just so... Again, rather than submit this to xemacs-patches immediately, I thought it would be prudent to post it here first. Previous patch: > faces.el makes some useful default faces, but the gtk defaults were > commented out. So I uncommented the commented-out gtk defaults and > added additional ones. This was good because it meant Custom would work, but bad because the default colours were the standard XEmacs ones rather than using GTK settings. Instead you could forget about passing the gtk device as the optional parameter to the set-face-background forms within gtk-init-device-faces. This sets colours correctly on a gtk *or* a tty, and allows faces to be changed by Custom. --=-=-= Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=yet-another-diff Content-Description: ya-gtk-diff --- lisp/gtk-faces.el.orig Mon Nov 19 18:11:12 2001 +++ lisp/gtk-faces.el Mon Nov 19 21:37:58 2001 @@ -48,10 +48,11 @@ ;; ;; If the "default" face didn't have a font specified, try to pick one. ;; + ;; Removed device locales - a naive attempt to keep Custom happy. (if (not (eq (device-type device) 'gtk)) nil (gtk-init-pointers) - '(let* ((style (gtk-style-info device)) + (let* ((style (gtk-style-info device)) ;;(normal 0) ; GTK_STATE_NORMAL ;;(active 1) ; GTK_STATE_ACTIVE (prelight 2) ; GTK_STATE_PRELIGHT @@ -59,18 +60,18 @@ ;;(insensitive 4) ; GTK_STATE_INSENSITIVE ) (set-face-foreground 'highlight - (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text)) - device) + (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text))) + ;device) (set-face-background 'highlight - (nth prelight (plist-get style 'background)) - device) + (nth prelight (plist-get style 'background))) + ;device) (set-face-foreground 'zmacs-region - (nth selected (plist-get style 'text)) - device) + (nth selected (plist-get style 'text))) + ;device) (set-face-background 'zmacs-region - (nth selected (plist-get style 'background)) - device)) - (set-face-background 'text-cursor "red3" device))) + (nth selected (plist-get style 'background)))) + ;device)) + (set-face-background 'text-cursor "red3"))) ;;; This is called from `init-frame-faces', which is called from ;;; init_frame_faces() which is called from Fmake_frame(), to perform --=-=-= -- John Paul Wallington --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 17:13:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA30492; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:13:03 -0500 Received: from femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.22]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA30462 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:12:55 -0500 Received: from home.com ([24.180.13.96]) by femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011119221254.KBUX617.femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:12:54 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:12:53 -0500 From: "David A. Cobb" Organization: Excite/At-Home User via Cox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.6+) Gecko/20011119 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Proposing a tiny change Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Could y'all add to the procedures for striking a "latest-beta" baseline something that would add xemacs-patch-date="2001-11-12T13:14Z" (or something similar) to file 'version.sh'? It should be pretty simple automated scripting. Rationale: no matter how or why a patch/mod is applied to the beta, this would allow printing the version.sh file to supply a more precise identification to the build. Thanks, -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate, All around nice guy. New PGP key 09/13/2001: : : Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B} "By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." --The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. French [tr.] Potentially Viral Software is any software for which you are not allowed to examine the source. Do not buy or use Potentially Viral Software! From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 18:42:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA03744; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:42:09 -0500 Received: from petteflet.ntlworld.com (pc4-oxfo3-0-cust81.oxf.cable.ntl.com [213.105.158.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA03730 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:41:52 -0500 Received: by petteflet.ntlworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 124D8A70BF; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:41:54 +0100 (CET) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: jan@xemacs.org Subject: Custom & italic Date: 20 Nov 2001 00:41:53 +0100 Message-ID: <87oflypbum.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Lines: 43 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , [One of my rare "awake from xemacs coma" moments.] I think in order to fix the bad interaction between the italic face and custom one "merely" needs to convert the size[1] function to use frobbing. i.e. ; ; I have kept the dependency on font.el for now ; (defun make-face-size-helper (fontinst size &optional device) (let ((fontobj (font-create-object (font-instance-name fontinst) device))) (set-font-size fontobj size) (font-create-name fontobj device))) (defun make-face-size (face size &optional locale tags) "Make FACE SIZE in LOCALE, if possible. Add/Replace settings specified by tags only." (frob-face-property face 'font (lambda (f d) (make-face-size-helper f size d)) nil locale tags)) (defun custom-set-face-font-size (face size &optional locale tags) "Set the font of FACE to SIZE." (make-face-size face size locale tags)) This makes it possible to set the size using custom. I haven't done any long-term testing. On the good side this (combined with the same for family ) might very well get us a lot closer to having custom & Mule play well. Hope this helps, Jan Footnotes: [1] and really the family as well. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 21:35:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA11975; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:34:08 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA11956 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:33:53 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1660iP-00072q-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:32:49 +0900 To: Meino Christian Cramer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change References: <87bsi6uf7u.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011114.164515.730553790.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87ofm4pxra.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011119.153114.730555450.mccramer@s.netic.de> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 20 Nov 2001 11:32:48 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011119.153114.730555450.mccramer@s.netic.de> Message-ID: <87k7wmjhnz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: Meino> I have a problem...to generate the list. Is there any Meino> "internal" or "hidden" function, which will list all fonts Meino> actually used by XEmacs instead of the list, XEmacs is Meino> believe to use? I meant the list of faces you have noticed as being customizable after doing (reset-face ...), but not before. As far as I know you would have to write a special function to list up all of the fonts actually used. The current code presumes that Customize has some idea of what reality is. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 21:52:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA12826; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:52:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA12797 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:51:19 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1660zV-00073I-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:50:29 +0900 To: "David A. Cobb" Cc: Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Further Adventures building r21-5-3/i686-pc-cygwin References: <3BF97FC0.9000601@home.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 20 Nov 2001 11:50:29 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3BF97FC0.9000601@home.com> Message-ID: <87g07ajgui.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "David" == David A Cobb writes: David> Once again, it died with the complaint David> Symbols definition as function is void: David> batch-force-update-one-directory This is defined in the file lisp/autoload.el. Isn't that file present? It's possible that CVS is somehow hosed, but this should affect all 21.5 builds, and I'm seeing a few successful ones on build-reports. David> HEY, This looks strange! The /if/ forms that I highlighted David> above return this quoted list with the offending David> symbol-print-name as a string. But they don't put it David> *anywhere*! On my workspace they're part of the bigger append that gets setq'd into command-line-args. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 22:53:41 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA15522; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:53:09 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA15478 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:52:23 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1661wa-000762-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:51:32 +0900 To: "David A. Cobb" Cc: Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change References: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 20 Nov 2001 12:51:32 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> Message-ID: <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "David" == David A Cobb writes: David> Could y'all add to the procedures for striking a David> "latest-beta" baseline something that would add David> xemacs-patch-date="2001-11-12T13:14Z" (or something David> similar) to file 'version.sh'? I don't understand what you want. If you check out sources with an explicit tag and use them verbatim, the version numbers identify the source completely. If you have local mods, then the version is inaccurate. Nothing that the process of releasing a beta can doing anything about. David> It should be pretty simple automated scripting. Depends on what semantics you want to implement. Please be more specific. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 19 23:18:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16989; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:18:06 -0500 Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu [128.173.14.103]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16909; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:17:13 -0500 From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (8.12.2.Beta1/8.12.2.Beta1) with ESMTP id fAK4H7gi028498; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:17:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200111200417.fAK4H7gi028498@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Meino Christian Cramer , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:32:48 +0900." <87k7wmjhnz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Url: http://black-ice.cc.vt.edu/~valdis/ X-Face-Viewer: See ftp://cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/index.html to decode picture X-Face: 34C9$Ewd2zeX+\!i1BA\j{ex+$/V'JBG#;3_noWWYPa"|,I#`R"{n@w>#:{)FXyiAS7(8t( ^*w5O*!8O9YTe[r{e%7(yVRb|qxsRYw`7J!`AM}m_SHaj}f8eb@d^L>BrX7iO[ <20011114.164515.730553790.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87ofm4pxra.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011119.153114.730555450.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87k7wmjhnz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_178751798P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:17:07 -0500 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_178751798P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:32:48 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" said: > all of the fonts actually used. The current code presumes that > Customize has some idea of what reality is. I've now read that sentence several times, and am still not sure whether to laugh or cry, especially considering my own recent war with Customize and fonts... -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech --==_Exmh_178751798P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQA/AwUBO/nZQ3At5Vm009ewEQLuLACgj2HejcQ3F1ia3EC2jsfT08DuhDgAoOa0 VxSB6ph5wavs1D+ZtrjCNIGn =w2ia -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_178751798P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 08:12:20 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA11788; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:11:03 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA11739; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:10:01 -0500 Received: from belinda.fmi.uni-passau.de (belinda.fmi.uni-passau.de [132.231.1.63]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA11681 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:09:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (doerre@localhost) by belinda.fmi.uni-passau.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKD96s11161 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:09:06 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:09:05 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Doerre To: crashes@xemacs.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-410763519-704395985-1006261745=:11055" Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---410763519-704395985-1006261745=:11055 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I had an XEmacs crash. It dumped the content of the first attached file to the console. In the second file you find the information about the installation. 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Nov 2001 06:33:30 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: 21.4 (patch 5) "Civil Service" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 10 Q) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Problem instrumenting defuns for debugging when running speedbar X-Face: I-*}xvwusAv%MlABo'jVNP7TDXf5bb*L[q,r{DnsR1GoL07^Wf)sAu%>!LjXAFlZZN+`OQu }?#du]C)[*%ERKR#+l#sX'EoNbSO~|.x@ogoS5|"-u? Date: 20 Nov 2001 01:20:26 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 32 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi When trying to call Instrument This Defun For Debugging from the right mouse popup-menu inside of a lisp file I get the following messages and stacktrace when running speedbar in another frame. This happens only when trying for the first time. From then on I can succesfully instrument: Loading edebug... Loading edebug...done Symbol's value as variable is void: speedbar-with-writable Signaling: (void-variable speedbar-with-writable) #() run-hooks(#) edebug-read-and-maybe-wrap-form() edebug-read-top-level-form() #() call-interactively(edebug-defun) menu-call-at-event(edebug-defun) eval((menu-call-at-event (quote edebug-defun))) dispatch-event(#) popup-mode-menu(#) call-interactively(popup-mode-menu) Any idea ?? Ciao Volker From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 09:43:34 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA16339; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:43:07 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA16275 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:42:10 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166C4c-0007dy-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:40:30 +0900 To: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?q?=C5kerud?= Cc: Subject: Re: Holding CTRL+G => Fatal error References: <000e01c16e1e$d9e8a020$cb01a8c0@synthpengarna> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 20 Nov 2001 23:40:30 +0900 In-Reply-To: <000e01c16e1e$d9e8a020$cb01a8c0@synthpengarna> Message-ID: <87n11hfqu9.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id JAA16275 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "daniel" == daniel <Åkerud > writes: daniel> Holding CTRL+G pressed for a while, 10 seconds maybe, daniel> issues a fatal error. daniel> Version: Version: 21.4.1-2   (On my debian SID daniel> disttribution) I can't duplicate with 21.4.4, 21.4.5, or 21.4.6, also debian sid. I think sid is up to at least 21.4.3 by now, please try upgrading. If you do experience it again, we want to know about it. Please update your net-utils package, and use M-x report-emacs-bug RET for bug reports in the future. It gives a lot of useful information about configuration and environment. Thanks! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 10:44:48 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19716; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:44:15 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19679 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:43:09 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166D2O-0007fQ-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:42:16 +0900 To: Uwe Brauer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: auto-cap. And problems with lookup-key under xemacs-21.1.14 References: <15328.10794.541787.170965@sunma2.mat.ucm.es> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 21 Nov 2001 00:42:16 +0900 In-Reply-To: <15328.10794.541787.170965@sunma2.mat.ucm.es> Message-ID: <87itc5fnzb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Uwe" == Uwe Brauer writes: Uwe> Auto-capitalize is a very nifty minor mode which as it names Uwe> says capitalize words for you. Uwe> The problem is that lookup-key signals an error when it's Uwe> passed a misc-user-event KEY, which apparently corresponds to Uwe> a menu or toolbar click. I attach the error message below. Uwe> The author thinks this is a BUG of Xemacs, since there is no Uwe> similar problem under GNU emacs. Yeah, it may be a bug in XEmacs. XEmacs is happy to look up misc-user-events if they are wrapped in a vector, as returned by read-key-sequence. So I think I know how to fix this but it probably won't happen soon in 21.4. A workaround would be to substitute something like (if (and (featurep 'xemacs) (misc-user-event-p keys)) (vector keys) keys) for the `keys' argument to `lookup-keys'. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 11:59:27 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24008; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:59:03 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn334.s.netic.de [212.9.163.78]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23984; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:58:40 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166EBp-00039F-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:56:05 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:56:05 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011120.175605.846937863.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <200111200417.fAK4H7gi028498@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> References: <20011119.153114.730555450.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87k7wmjhnz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200111200417.fAK4H7gi028498@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:17:07 -0500 Message-ID: <200111200417.fAK4H7gi028498@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> (shoot into the dark...) If it is known, that customize has (big?) problems with setting the fonts, and it is further possible to set the fonts via "hand made customization" in the init.el file with (for example): (reset-face 'italic) (set-face-font 'italic "-adobe-courier-*-o-normal-*-14-*-100-100-*-*-iso8859-1" 'global) ....why don't customize can adopt that pattern? keep hacking the right site of life ! :-) Meino Valdis.Kletnieks> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:32:48 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" said: Valdis.Kletnieks> > all of the fonts actually used. The current code presumes that Valdis.Kletnieks> > Customize has some idea of what reality is. Valdis.Kletnieks> Valdis.Kletnieks> I've now read that sentence several times, and am still not sure Valdis.Kletnieks> whether to laugh or cry, especially considering my own recent Valdis.Kletnieks> war with Customize and fonts... Valdis.Kletnieks> -- Valdis.Kletnieks> Valdis Kletnieks Valdis.Kletnieks> Operating Systems Analyst Valdis.Kletnieks> Virginia Tech Valdis.Kletnieks> Valdis.Kletnieks> Valdis.Kletnieks> Valdis.Kletnieks> From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 12:02:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24214; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:02:01 -0500 Received: from solfire (isdn334.s.netic.de [212.9.163.78]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23952; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:58:17 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by solfire with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166E8L-000390-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:52:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:52:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20011120.175229.730555611.mccramer@s.netic.de> To: stephen@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change From: Meino Christian Cramer In-Reply-To: <87k7wmjhnz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87ofm4pxra.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20011119.153114.730555450.mccramer@s.netic.de> <87k7wmjhnz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on XEmacs 21.4.5 (Civil Service) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: Italic-Fonts does not change Date: 20 Nov 2001 11:32:48 +0900 Message-ID: <87k7wmjhnz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Ooops! There was a misunderstanding, probably based on my """english""" ;-) What I meant in the beginning was: As I reset the italic font, a couple of other fonts changed also their appearance on the screen. There was no change in the "written form" in the customize-menus. I dont know, how identify those fonts?! Should I change the background color of all fonts which can be found via "customize-faces (all)"? keep hacking the right site of life ! :-) Meino stephen> >>>>> "Meino" == Meino Christian Cramer writes: stephen> stephen> Meino> I have a problem...to generate the list. Is there any stephen> Meino> "internal" or "hidden" function, which will list all fonts stephen> Meino> actually used by XEmacs instead of the list, XEmacs is stephen> Meino> believe to use? stephen> stephen> I meant the list of faces you have noticed as being customizable after stephen> doing (reset-face ...), but not before. stephen> stephen> As far as I know you would have to write a special function to list up stephen> all of the fonts actually used. The current code presumes that stephen> Customize has some idea of what reality is. stephen> stephen> stephen> -- stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp stephen> University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN stephen> Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; stephen> ask what your business can "do for" free software. stephen> From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 12:13:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25247; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:13:07 -0500 Received: from femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.25]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25190; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:12:33 -0500 Received: from home.com ([24.180.13.96]) by femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011120171223.MAMH9180.femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:12:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFA8EF2.5030801@home.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:12:18 -0500 From: "David A. Cobb" Organization: Excite/At-Home User via Cox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.6+) Gecko/20011119 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Further Adventures building r21-5-3/i686-pc-cygwin References: <3BF97FC0.9000601@home.com> <87g07ajgui.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020707030303010206060601" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020707030303010206060601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>>"David" == David A Cobb writes: >>>>>> > > David> Once again, it died with the complaint > David> Symbols definition as function is void: > David> batch-force-update-one-directory > > This is defined in the file lisp/autoload.el. Isn't that file present? > It's possible that CVS is somehow hosed, but this should affect all > 21.5 builds, and I'm seeing a few successful ones on build-reports. Thanks, Stephen. Yes, it is defined there; I dunno why grep didn't show it. That moves the question back to "why wasn't 'autoload.el' run?" because clearly the /defun/ hasn't been executed or has failed. If I were to put a couple of "(message" lines into autoload.el, would the batch-mode run send these to stderr? Or is there a better built-in to use? > > David> HEY, This looks strange! The /if/ forms that I highlighted > David> above return this quoted list with the offending > David> symbol-print-name as a string. But they don't put it > David> *anywhere*! > > On my workspace they're part of the bigger append that gets setq'd > into command-line-args. I'll look, but it still seems strange. Even if those /if/ forms are nested inside an enclosing function it would only produce one result, no? The several /if/ forms may return several values but I don't think they will get where they're desired as it's written. If I correctly understand that, should it not be a /(cond / form? I'm enclosing my 'update-elc.el' file; could you perhaps diff it against yours? Mine is the way it came off the 'net or as munged by configure. > > > -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate, All around nice guy. New PGP key 09/13/2001: : : Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B} "By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." --The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. 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Cobb" Organization: Excite/At-Home User via Cox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.6+) Gecko/20011119 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change References: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>>"David" == David A Cobb writes: >>>>>> > > David> Could y'all add to the procedures for striking a > David> "latest-beta" baseline something that would add > David> xemacs-patch-date="2001-11-12T13:14Z" (or something > David> similar) to file 'version.sh'? > > I don't understand what you want. If you check out sources with an > explicit tag and use them verbatim, the version numbers identify the > source completely. If you have local mods, then the version is > inaccurate. Nothing that the process of releasing a beta can doing > anything about. > > David> It should be pretty simple automated scripting. > > Depends on what semantics you want to implement. Please be more > specific. Maybe it's me that isn't understanding. If I checkout the source tree using "-r r21-5-latest-beta" today I get 21-5-3 (unless it changed last night). Am I guarenteed that there will be *no* changes applied until you announce a 21-5-4? That I will *never* need to do cvs update until there is a new beta? If the last two statements above are *not* true, then I'm asking for a finer grained indication that I could feedback so y'all know precisely what source I'm working with when I report a problem. In the past I thought I had seen "cvs update -r r21-5-latest-beta" report some updates. -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate, All around nice guy. New PGP key 09/13/2001: : : Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B} "By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." --The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. French [tr.] Potentially Viral Software is any software for which you are not allowed to examine the source. Do not buy or use Potentially Viral Software! From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 12:46:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27227; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:46:04 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27115; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:45:00 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01356; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA10944; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA15393; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:40:06 +0100 (MET) To: "David A. Cobb" Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change References: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 20 Nov 2001 18:45:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> Message-ID: Lines: 60 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "David" == David A Cobb writes: David> Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>>> "David" == David A Cobb writes: >>>>>>> David> Could y'all add to the procedures for striking a David> "latest-beta" baseline something that would add David> xemacs-patch-date="2001-11-12T13:14Z" (or something David> similar) to file 'version.sh'? >> I don't understand what you want. If you check out sources with an >> explicit tag and use them verbatim, the version numbers identify the >> source completely. If you have local mods, then the version is >> inaccurate. Nothing that the process of releasing a beta can doing >> anything about. David> It should be pretty simple automated scripting. >> Depends on what semantics you want to implement. Please be more >> specific. David> Maybe it's me that isn't understanding. If I checkout the David> source tree using "-r r21-5-latest-beta" today I get 21-5-3 David> (unless it changed last night). Am I guarenteed that there David> will be *no* changes applied until you announce a 21-5-4? No. David> That I will *never* need to do cvs update until there is a David> new beta? Depends on what you want to do. If a bug fix was commited that you wanted to verify, then you'll have to update (or apply the corresponding patch sent to xemacs-patches). You determine when and why you have to update :-) David> If the last two statements above are *not* true, then I'm David> asking for a finer grained indication that I could feedback David> so y'all know precisely what source I'm working with when I David> report a problem. In the past I thought I had seen "cvs Report the cvs update (or checkout) command line you used and the time and time zone you ran it. That determines what you'll get. version.sh can't possible have that information. Hope this helps, Adrian David> update -r r21-5-latest-beta" report some updates. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 13:05:41 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28459; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:05:09 -0500 Received: from acsp.com ([63.227.48.194]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28414 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:04:31 -0500 From: lind@acsp.com Received: from JACK (jack.sanctum.acsp.com [192.168.3.14]) by acsp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA32213 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:13:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:13:21 -0700 Message-Id: <200111201713.KAA32213@acsp.com> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: can't find home directory Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! On startup I get this message: (1) (user-files-and-directories/warning) XEmacs was unable to determine a good value for the user's $HOME directory, and will be using the value: C:\ This is probably incorrect. Even though I have set the HOME environment variable in my autoexec.bat file AND as a string in the system registry. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.5 \"Civil Service (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.5\". Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using minimal tagbits. Using indexed lrecord implementation. Using portable dumper. 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Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 13:09:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28920; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:09:01 -0500 Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu [128.173.14.103]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28586; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:06:57 -0500 From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (8.12.2.Beta1/8.12.2.Beta1) with ESMTP id fAKI6tgi001137; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:06:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200111201806.fAKI6tgi001137@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: Adrian Aichner Cc: "David A. Cobb" , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:45:09 +0100." X-Url: http://black-ice.cc.vt.edu/~valdis/ X-Face-Viewer: See ftp://cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/index.html to decode picture X-Face: 34C9$Ewd2zeX+\!i1BA\j{ex+$/V'JBG#;3_noWWYPa"|,I#`R"{n@w>#:{)FXyiAS7(8t( ^*w5O*!8O9YTe[r{e%7(yVRb|qxsRYw`7J!`AM}m_SHaj}f8eb@d^L>BrX7iO[ <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-7221828P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:06:54 -0500 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-7221828P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:45:09 +0100, Adrian Aichner said: > Report the cvs update (or checkout) command line you used and the time > and time zone you ran it. That determines what you'll get. I think the complaint is that if you don't (for instance) write down the time, you may end up with some ambiguities. For instance, if I did a 'cvs update' night before last, but am just getting around to doing the build now, did I get some/none/all of the updates that Ben committed around the same time? A bit of poking indicates that 'ls -ldt CVS */CVS' will cough up the time that the last cvs operation happened. Not sure if that helps... ;) /Valdis --==_Exmh_-7221828P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQA/AwUBO/qbvnAt5Vm009ewEQL3PgCcD+Z4iQVay46v1zzFO3CBYd6GubsAn1hL gNA+n1erZkHAZApMS/6Cv+IX =vun/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-7221828P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 13:48:16 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA31427; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:48:02 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA31332; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:47:00 -0500 Received: from sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com [171.70.157.152]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA31281 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:46:16 -0500 Received: from mira-sjc5-3.cisco.com (mira-sjc5-3.cisco.com [171.71.163.20]) by sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id fAKIk6H13483 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from cisco.com (sjr-u10.cisco.com [171.71.116.113]) by mira-sjc5-3.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AAJ47871; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:46:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3BFAA4E7.B08F11DB@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:45:59 -0800 From: Steve Rawlinson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Using indent alignment feature when crashing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I had pressed MC-\ when this happened. % gdb /auto/sw/packages/xemacs/20.4/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/bin/xemacs core GNU gdb 5.0 Copyright 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "sparc-sun-solaris2.6"... warning: core file may not match specified executable file. Core was generated by `/auto/sw/packages/xemacs/20.4/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/bin/xemacs'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation Fault. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXm.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXm.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/dt/lib/libDtSvc.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/dt/lib/libDtSvc.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/openwin/lib/libtt.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/openwin/lib/libtt.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXmu.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXmu.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXt.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXt.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXext.so.0...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXext.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libSM.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libICE.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libkvm.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libkvm.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libkstat.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libkstat.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libm.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libm.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libelf.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libelf.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libdl.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libc.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libmp.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-5_10/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-5_10/lib/libc_psr.so.1 #0 0xef18828c in _libc_kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.1 (gdb) where #0 0xef18828c in _libc_kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.1 #1 0x6d6c0 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at emacs.c:220 #2 #3 skip_chars (buf=0x467c00, forwardp=0, syntaxp=1, string=45, lim=1) at buffer.h:675 #4 0x10ac68 in Fskip_syntax_backward (syntax=1615491664, lim=-1607815164, buffer=-1607815164) at search.c:936 #5 0x75604 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=-1607714352, nargs=1, args=0xefffddfc) at eval.c:3235 #6 0x75c90 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xefffddf8) at eval.c:3280 #7 0x5183c in Fbyte_code (bytestr=1615491700, vector=-2141770624, maxdepth=7) at bytecode.c:420 #8 0x76de8 in funcall_lambda (fun=542703652, nargs=2, arg_vector=0xefffe3ec) at eval.c:3665 #9 0x75c1c in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=542703652, nargs=2, args=0xefffe3e8) at eval.c:3256 #10 0x75c90 in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xefffe3e8) at eval.c:3280 #11 0x5183c in Fbyte_code (bytestr=1612864472, vector=-2145231728, maxdepth=57) at bytecode.c:420 #12 0x76de8 in funcall_lambda (fun=539122916, nargs=3, arg_vector=0xefffe70c) at eval.c:3665 #13 0x75c1c in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=-1607069452, nargs=3, args=0xefffe708) at eval.c:3256 #14 0x75c90 in Ffuncall (nargs=4, args=0xefffe708) at eval.c:3280 #15 0x546d0 in Fcall_interactively (function=-1607069452, record_flag=-1607815164, keys=-1607815164) at callint.c:926 #16 0x73f58 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=-1607069452, record=-1607815164, keys=-1607815164) at eval.c:2631 #17 0x9a500 in execute_command_event (command_builder=0x2dfb80, event=542356272) at event-stream.c:4253 #18 0x9ae14 in Fdispatch_event (event=542356272) at event-stream.c:4547 #19 0x59180 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:560 #20 0x58fa8 in command_loop_1 (dummy=-1607815164) at cmdloop.c:480 #21 0x71dbc in condition_case_1 (handlers=-1607815084, bfun=0x58f84 , barg=-1607815164, hfun=0x592f0 , harg=-1607815164) at eval.c:1696 #22 0x59408 in command_loop_2 (dummy=-1607815164) at cmdloop.c:242 #23 0x71b98 in internal_catch (tag=-1607738208, func=0x593bc , arg=-1607815164, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1371 #24 0x58bb0 in initial_command_loop (load_me=365500) at cmdloop.c:291 #25 0x6ece8 in xemacs_20_4_sparc_sun_solaris2_6 (argc=1, argv=0xefffef4c, envp=0xefffef54) at emacs.c:1493 #26 0x6f3f0 in main (argc=0, argv=0xefffef4c, envp=0xefffef54) at emacs.c:1849 (gdb) Running on Sun Ultra-10 using Solaris 2.6. Don't know what procedures were followed for installing Xemacs. File that I was editing was .cshrc Probably doing an alignment was not a good thing since there were no clues from the file type as to what kind of file it was. Hope this helps. -- Steve Rawlinson | | Cisco Systems, Inc. ||| ||| (408) 853-6181 ||||||| ||||||| sjr@cisco.com _.:|||||||||||:..:|||||||||||:._ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 13:56:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA32119; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:56:02 -0500 Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA32071; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:55:40 -0500 Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 166G3T-0004Mc-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:55:35 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.8.225]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 166G37-0PDY5QC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:55:13 +0100 To: lind@acsp.com Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: can't find home directory References: <200111201713.KAA32213@acsp.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: <3d39p905.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> Lines: 68 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "lind" == lind writes: lind> This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, lind> not to your local site managers!! lind> Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have lind> translators to read other languages for them. lind> Please describe as succinctly as possible: lind> - What happened. lind> - What you thought should have happened. lind> - Precisely what you were doing at the time. lind> Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. lind> ================================================================ lind> Dear Bug Team! lind> On startup I get this message: lind> (1) (user-files-and-directories/warning) lind> XEmacs was unable to determine a good value for the user's $HOME lind> directory, and will be using the value: lind> C:\ lind> This is probably incorrect. lind> Even though I have set the HOME environment variable in my lind> autoexec.bat file AND as a string in the system registry. Please provide the exact line from autoexec.bat. Please export the registry key in question using regedit and send us the resulting REGEDIT4 file (just for that key, not the whole registry!). Please send us the value you get in XEmacs when evaluating following form with C-u C-x C-e (I have included my result): (getenv "HOME") "C:\\Users\\AichnerAd" Please send us the output of following lisp form (I have included my results): (directory-files (getenv "HOME") nil "^\\.e" nil t) (".emacs" ".emacs-2.bmk" ".emacs-i386-pc-win32" ".emacs-i386-pc-win32~" ".emacs-i586-pc-win32" ".emacs-i586-pc-win32.~1.26~" ".emacs-i586-pc-win32.~1.27~" ".emacs-i586-pc-win32~" ".emacs-places" ".emacs.bmk" ".emacs.bmk~" ".emacs.mini" ".emacs.orig") lind> ================================================================ lind> System Info to help track down your bug: lind> --------------------------------------- lind> OS version: lind> Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] lind> OS: Windows_NT lind> XEmacs 21.4.5 \"Civil Service (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 14:52:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03213; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:52:03 -0500 Received: from femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.149]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03182; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:51:27 -0500 Received: from home.com ([24.180.13.96]) by femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011120195121.SPJD28663.femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:51:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFAB437.70308@home.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:51:19 -0500 From: "David A. Cobb" Organization: Excite/At-Home User via Cox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Aichner , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change References: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner wrote: > David> Maybe it's me that isn't understanding. If I checkout the > David> source tree using "-r r21-5-latest-beta" today I get 21-5-3 > David> (unless it changed last night). Am I guarenteed that there > David> will be *no* changes applied until you announce a 21-5-4? > > No. > > David> That I will *never* need to do cvs update until there is a > David> new beta? > > Depends on what you want to do. If a bug fix was commited that you > wanted to verify, then you'll have to update (or apply the > corresponding patch sent to xemacs-patches). > > You determine when and why you have to update :-) > > David> If the last two statements above are *not* true, then I'm > David> asking for a finer grained indication that I could feedback > David> so y'all know precisely what source I'm working with when I > David> report a problem. In the past I thought I had seen "cvs > > Report the cvs update (or checkout) command line you used and the time > and time zone you ran it. That determines what you'll get. > > version.sh can't possible have that information. Precisely what I'm trying to pin down. Now, why "can't possibly?" version.sh looks like a very simple shell script - if you added a shell variable for the date and set it from `date` whenever a bugfix is applied, what component would even care? OK, It need not be in version.sh, I'm just begging that it be somewhere in the tree where I can attach one simple file to a question/report and y'all will know *precisely* what my source-tree looked like when I built. > > Hope this helps, > > Adrian Sigh! -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate, All around nice guy. New PGP key 09/13/2001: : : Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B} "By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." --The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. French [tr.] Potentially Viral Software is any software for which you are not allowed to examine the source. Do not buy or use Potentially Viral Software! From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 15:34:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA05849; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:34:01 -0500 Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA05829; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:50 -0500 Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 166HaX-0007F9-04; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:33:49 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.8.225]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 166HaJ-1Qse6SC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:33:35 +0100 To: "David A. Cobb" Cc: Adrian Aichner , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change References: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> <3BFAB437.70308@home.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "David" == David A Cobb writes: >> Report the cvs update (or checkout) command line you used and the >> time >> and time zone you ran it. That determines what you'll get. >> version.sh can't possible have that information. David> Precisely what I'm trying to pin down. Now, why "can't David> possibly?" version.sh looks like a very simple shell David> script - if you added a shell variable for the date and set David> it from `date` whenever a bugfix is applied, what component David> would even care? David, version.sh and all other files you update via CVS depend on WHEN and HOW YOU choose to update. You may apply patches or manual changes on top of that. What I am trying to point out: Only you can know what exactly you are building from. Know your sources :-) If you use straight-forward ways to update from CVS, like cvs update -r r21-5-3 then the thing to report is just that. I don't see a simple solution to this general problem. Best regards, Adrian David> OK, It need not be in version.sh, I'm just begging that it David> be somewhere in the tree where I can attach one simple file David> to a question/report and y'all will know *precisely* what David> my source-tree looked like when I built. >> Hope this helps, >> Adrian David> Sigh! -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 16:24:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA09500; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:24:15 -0500 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA09425; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:23:01 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA09319 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:22:12 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04640; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from kiki.icd.teradyne.com (kiki.icd.teradyne.com [131.101.10.126]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA15557; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from integramot.afive (integramot [131.101.125.225]) by kiki.icd.teradyne.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA09902; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by integramot.afive (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA04903; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:22:10 -0500 To: Steve Rawlinson Cc: crashes@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Using indent alignment feature when crashing References: <3BFAA4E7.B08F11DB@cisco.com> From: Vin Shelton Organization: Teradyne Date: 20 Nov 2001 16:22:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3BFAA4E7.B08F11DB@cisco.com> Message-ID: <5454rnpgmt9.fsf@icd.teradyne.com> Lines: 115 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: xemacs-crashes@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is addressed by the first entry in the PROBLEMS file: ** General *** Don't use -O2 with gcc 2.8.1 and egcs 1.0 under SPARC architectures without also using `-fno-schedule-insns'. gcc will generate incorrect code otherwise, typically resulting in crashes in the function skip-syntax-backward. Steve Rawlinson writes: > I had pressed MC-\ when this happened. > > % gdb /auto/sw/packages/xemacs/20.4/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/bin/xemacs core > GNU gdb 5.0 > Copyright 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "sparc-sun-solaris2.6"... > > warning: core file may not match specified executable file. > Core was generated by `/auto/sw/packages/xemacs/20.4/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/bin/xemacs'. > Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation Fault. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXm.so.3...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXm.so.3 > Reading symbols from /usr/dt/lib/libDtSvc.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/dt/lib/libDtSvc.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/openwin/lib/libtt.so.2...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/openwin/lib/libtt.so.2 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXmu.so.4...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXmu.so.4 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXt.so.4...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXt.so.4 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXext.so.0...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libXext.so.0 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libX11.so.4...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libX11.so.4 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libSM.so.6...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libICE.so.6...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libkvm.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libkvm.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libkstat.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libkstat.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libm.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libm.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libelf.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libelf.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libdl.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libc.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libmp.so.2 > Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-5_10/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-5_10/lib/libc_psr.so.1 > #0 0xef18828c in _libc_kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.1 > (gdb) where > #0 0xef18828c in _libc_kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.1 > #1 0x6d6c0 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at emacs.c:220 > #2 > #3 skip_chars (buf=0x467c00, forwardp=0, syntaxp=1, string=45, lim=1) at buffer.h:675 > #4 0x10ac68 in Fskip_syntax_backward (syntax=1615491664, lim=-1607815164, buffer=-1607815164) at search.c:936 > #5 0x75604 in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=-1607714352, nargs=1, args=0xefffddfc) at eval.c:3235 > #6 0x75c90 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xefffddf8) at eval.c:3280 > #7 0x5183c in Fbyte_code (bytestr=1615491700, vector=-2141770624, maxdepth=7) at bytecode.c:420 > #8 0x76de8 in funcall_lambda (fun=542703652, nargs=2, arg_vector=0xefffe3ec) at eval.c:3665 > #9 0x75c1c in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=542703652, nargs=2, args=0xefffe3e8) at eval.c:3256 > #10 0x75c90 in Ffuncall (nargs=3, args=0xefffe3e8) at eval.c:3280 > #11 0x5183c in Fbyte_code (bytestr=1612864472, vector=-2145231728, maxdepth=57) at bytecode.c:420 > #12 0x76de8 in funcall_lambda (fun=539122916, nargs=3, arg_vector=0xefffe70c) at eval.c:3665 > #13 0x75c1c in funcall_recording_as (recorded_as=-1607069452, nargs=3, args=0xefffe708) at eval.c:3256 > #14 0x75c90 in Ffuncall (nargs=4, args=0xefffe708) at eval.c:3280 > #15 0x546d0 in Fcall_interactively (function=-1607069452, record_flag=-1607815164, keys=-1607815164) at callint.c:926 > #16 0x73f58 in Fcommand_execute (cmd=-1607069452, record=-1607815164, keys=-1607815164) at eval.c:2631 > #17 0x9a500 in execute_command_event (command_builder=0x2dfb80, event=542356272) at event-stream.c:4253 > #18 0x9ae14 in Fdispatch_event (event=542356272) at event-stream.c:4547 > #19 0x59180 in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:560 > #20 0x58fa8 in command_loop_1 (dummy=-1607815164) at cmdloop.c:480 > #21 0x71dbc in condition_case_1 (handlers=-1607815084, bfun=0x58f84 , barg=-1607815164, hfun=0x592f0 , > harg=-1607815164) at eval.c:1696 > #22 0x59408 in command_loop_2 (dummy=-1607815164) at cmdloop.c:242 > #23 0x71b98 in internal_catch (tag=-1607738208, func=0x593bc , arg=-1607815164, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1371 > #24 0x58bb0 in initial_command_loop (load_me=365500) at cmdloop.c:291 > #25 0x6ece8 in xemacs_20_4_sparc_sun_solaris2_6 (argc=1, argv=0xefffef4c, envp=0xefffef54) at emacs.c:1493 > #26 0x6f3f0 in main (argc=0, argv=0xefffef4c, envp=0xefffef54) at emacs.c:1849 > (gdb) > > Running on Sun Ultra-10 using Solaris 2.6. Don't know what procedures > were followed for installing Xemacs. > > File that I was editing was .cshrc > Probably doing an alignment was not a good thing since there > were no clues from the file type as to what kind of file it was. > > Hope this helps. > -- > Steve Rawlinson | | > Cisco Systems, Inc. ||| ||| > (408) 853-6181 ||||||| ||||||| > sjr@cisco.com _.:|||||||||||:..:|||||||||||:._ > > -- In a minute there is time For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. T.S. Eliot [URL: http://www.cs.amherst.edu/~ccm/prufrock.html] From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 20:08:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA21929; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:07:07 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA21821; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:05:56 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166Lp6-0008Bt-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:05:08 +0900 To: jan@xemacs.org Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Custom & italic References: <87oflypbum.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 21 Nov 2001 10:05:08 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87oflypbum.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <87u1vpdjcr.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 53 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "jan" == jan writes: jan> [One of my rare "awake from xemacs coma" moments.] You have to do this more often. :-) jan> I think in order to fix the bad interaction between the jan> italic face and custom one "merely" needs to convert the jan> size[1] function to use frobbing. This works well for me in a quick test. I integrated the -helper function into make-face-size (keep all the grotty stuff together), and duplicated the setup you propose for the family property. Things actually work now! There _will_ be a 21.4 test release in honor of this. Like, _tomorrow_. If I get no complaints (subject to comments from the reviewers) it will go into the next public release (21.4.6). jan> On the good side this (combined with the same for family ) jan> might very well get us a lot closer to having custom & Mule jan> play well. Not so, I fear. There are three issues. First, all serious Japanese foundries have a "Mincho" (~ Times-Roman) and a "Gothic" (~ Helvetica) family. Unfortunately, they often name them that, too. There are also an awful lot of Japanese fonts with family name "fixed". So we need to handle foundries to disambiguate. That's pretty easy, just duplicate the family logic with foundry. Second, we need to handle registries. This is going to require some thinking. The internals are likely to be quite easy, because of the magic in specifiers for dealing with registry matching. But that bears watching. UI is going to be an annoying problem. A single face's customization widget already takes up a pretty big hunk of a typical Emacs window, even if it's full-frame. So we need to come up with a sensible way to handle this. GTK+'s font selector may be a reasonable model, but I have no idea how hard that will be to do with Emacs widgets. Third, I still occasionally find my Japanese fonts getting tromped by Custom. This may be pilot error, because I have had a number of relics in my init file and other places where I was doing it to myself. But I don't know of any now, but I still have problems. It hasn't been annoying enough to track down, so maybe it will just go away. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 20:12:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA22281; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:12:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA22040 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:08:59 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166Ls2-0008CM-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:08:10 +0900 To: "David A. Cobb" Cc: Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change References: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 21 Nov 2001 10:08:09 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> Message-ID: <87oflxdj7q.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 64 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian didn't quite get the complete story out, but his last post was pretty close. David> Maybe it's me that isn't understanding. If I checkout the David> source tree using "-r r21-5-latest-beta" today I get 21-5-3 David> (unless it changed last night). That's correct and it hasn't changed. David> Am I guarenteed that there will be *no* changes applied David> until you announce a 21-5-4? Yes, in the following sense. When I do a release, I commit everything in the workspace. I do a cvs tag operation based on the revisions in my workspace with the r21-5-4 tag. I then do a cvs rtag operation that moves the r21-5-latest-beta from r21-5-3 (which stays the same) to r21-5-4. This means that if you use the tag, you can not see any commits that take place after my "canonical commit". David> That I will *never* need to do cvs update until there is a David> new beta? There are two exceptions. (1) A patch you really want was committed to the tip of the trunk. Then you use the -A flag to clear all tags and get the trunk. This is hazardous, because of "atomicity" issues and because people often commit stuff that isn't quite right. The real solution is for me/us to get off our duffs and release more frequently. We're aware of the problem and we're working on it. (2) CVS commits are not "atomic." This means that it is possible that while I am doing the tag operation, you start an update. Then it is very possible that you will be updating in a r21-5-3 directory, while I am tagging the files in another to be r21-5-4. In that case, doing an update with r21-5-latest-beta will get you a mixed checkout, very bad juju. This should be extremely rare. You can check it by waiting a few minutes and doing a second update or a cvs diff using the same tag. In fact, my release scripts do exactly that: repeatedly check out until no change is detected. David> If the last two statements above are *not* true, then I'm David> asking for a finer grained indication that I could feedback David> so y'all know precisely what source I'm working with when I David> report a problem. If you are using a tag, then we know exactly what you got from your Installation file. David> In the past I thought I had seen "cvs update -r David> r21-5-latest-beta" report some updates. Only if your updates bracketed a release, or the first update was interrupted and somehow incomplete. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 23:40:44 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02958; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:40:11 -0500 Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02896; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:38:58 -0500 Received: from home.com ([24.180.13.96]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011121043853.KWUO6861.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:38:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFB2FDA.30408@home.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:38:50 -0500 From: "David A. Cobb" Organization: Excite/At-Home User via Cox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Aichner , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change References: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> <3BFAB437.70308@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner wrote: >>>>>>"David" == David A Cobb writes: >>>>>> > > >> Report the cvs update (or checkout) command line you used and the > >> time > >> and time zone you ran it. That determines what you'll get. > >> version.sh can't possible have that information. > David, > > version.sh and all other files you update via CVS depend on WHEN and > HOW YOU choose to update. You may apply patches or manual changes on > top of that. > > What I am trying to point out: Only you can know what exactly you are > building from. Know your sources :-) I think we're talking /past/ each other! I know *my* source changes and, if I were filing a bug report, I would certainly mention them. What I do *NOT* know is what bugfixes *y'all* have applied to "r21-5-latest-beta". I don't expect something you put in version.sh to identify anyting I do after I cvs update. But, when I report that I cannot sucessfully build from the source tree, I should be telling you precisely *what I downloaded* plus anything I might have changed (I ain't there yet!). It would be so much more meaningful if the date/time I report were the date/time at which Stephen applied the latest bugfix - who cares when I got around to trying a build? > > If you use straight-forward ways to update from CVS, like > cvs update -r r21-5-3 > then the thing to report is just that. No, as shown in a previous posting in this thread, saying I have a particular tag-version doesn't tell you what bugfixes I have downloaded. > > I don't see a simple solution to this general problem. I think I suggested a very simple solution if we are both talking about the same problem. MfG, -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate, All around nice guy. New PGP key 09/13/2001: : : Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B} "By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." --The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. French [tr.] Potentially Viral Software is any software for which you are not allowed to examine the source. Do not buy or use Potentially Viral Software! From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 23:46:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03367; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:46:02 -0500 Received: from femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.140]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03324 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:45:25 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011121044521.IMSQ12902.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:45:21 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Dr. Volker Zell" , Subject: RE: Problem instrumenting defuns for debugging when running speedbar Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:45:26 -0800 Message-ID: <002701c17247$569849f0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I see similar problems (not involving speedbar), I wish I knew why. andy > -----Original Message----- > From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org > [mailto:xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Dr. Volker Zell > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:20 PM > To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > Subject: Problem instrumenting defuns for debugging when running > speedbar > > > Hi > > When trying to call > > Instrument This Defun For Debugging > > from the right mouse popup-menu inside of a lisp file I get the > following messages > and stacktrace when running speedbar in another frame. This > happens only when trying > for the first time. From then on I can succesfully instrument: > > > Loading edebug... > Loading edebug...done > Symbol's value as variable is void: speedbar-with-writable > > Signaling: (void-variable speedbar-with-writable) > # speedbar-with-writable def-edebug-spec] 3>() > run-hooks(# speedbar-with-writable def-edebug-spec] 3>) > edebug-read-and-maybe-wrap-form() > edebug-read-top-level-form() > # edebug-all-forms edebug-read-top-level-form] 3 > ("/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edebug/edebug.elc" . > 13819) nil>() > call-interactively(edebug-defun) > menu-call-at-event(edebug-defun) > eval((menu-call-at-event (quote edebug-defun))) > dispatch-event(# (quote edebug-defun)))>) > popup-mode-menu(#) > call-interactively(popup-mode-menu) > > Any idea ?? > > Ciao > Volker > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 20 23:53:04 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03856; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:53:02 -0500 Received: from femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.141]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03821; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:52:31 -0500 Received: from home.com ([24.180.13.96]) by femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011121045231.IYHY13392.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:52:31 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFB330B.3020609@home.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:52:27 -0500 From: "David A. Cobb" Organization: Excite/At-Home User via Cox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" CC: Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change References: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> <87oflxdj7q.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Adrian didn't quite get the complete story out, but his last post was > pretty close. > > David> Maybe it's me that isn't understanding. If I checkout the > David> source tree using "-r r21-5-latest-beta" today I get 21-5-3 > David> (unless it changed last night). > > That's correct and it hasn't changed. > > David> Am I guarenteed that there will be *no* changes applied > David> until you announce a 21-5-4? > > Yes, in the following sense. > This means that if you use the tag, you can not see any commits that > take place after my "canonical commit". > > David> That I will *never* need to do cvs update until there is a > David> new beta? > > There are two exceptions. Neither of which should apply. I'm sticking with /releases/ for now. And I don't usually act quickly enough to catch the middle of your update. So, I don't know /what/ was causing the appearance of an update while I was working with 21-5-1; maybe you had started to cut 21-5-3(?). One thing I've come to suspect - perhaps I should discover the actual version tag, e.g. r21-5-3 instead of -latest-beta. And you've given the answer I needed. If I say "r21-5-3" & "no local changes" you know precisely what my source tree looks like. There is no need to identify the date/time when I downloaded it. Thanks, -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate, All around nice guy. New PGP key 09/13/2001: : : Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B} "By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." --The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. French [tr.] Potentially Viral Software is any software for which you are not allowed to examine the source. Do not buy or use Potentially Viral Software! From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 01:34:44 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA10553; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:34:20 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA10476; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:33:18 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166Qvk-0008Pd-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:32:20 +0900 To: ding@gnus.org Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, ben@xemacs.org, hniksic@xemacs.org Subject: Re: expiry problems? References: <87668kggle.fsf@mclinux.com> <87adxvrihi.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <87itcjg6jy.fsf@mclinux.com> <874ro369fj.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <87wv0z35yw.fsf@mclinux.com> <87vggitswm.fsf@mclinux.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 21 Nov 2001 15:32:20 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87itc4eirv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 71 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> Yes. The patch below fixes it, someone at xemacs-patches Simon> please have a look at it. Simon> XEmacs 21.1, 21.4 (without patch): Simon> (encode-time 0 0 1 1 1 1969 nil nil 3600) Simon> (65054 52352) wasteful_word_to_lisp() is required to produce this result by the C standard. Simon> Emacs 20.7, 21.1 (and XEmacs 21.4 with patch): Simon> (encode-time 0 0 1 1 1 1969 nil nil 3600) Simon> (-482 52352) This result is plausible, but the C standard does not require GNU's make_time to produce it AFAIK. For XEmacs 21.4.6, I'm going to (1) use GNU's make_time(), but divide by 2^16 when time is negative to guarantee the desired result (how Martinesque), and (2) eliminate use of (wasteful_)?word_to_lisp() to decode time (only in dired.c). Comments? Simon's patch follows in full for those who just joined us. The semantic difference between Simon's version and the current XEmacs code can be summarized by "s/time_t/unsigned int/". 2001-11-10 Simon Josefsson * editfns.c (make_time): New function, from Emacs. (Fencode_time): Use it, instead of `wasteful_word_to_lisp'. --- editfns.c.~1.27.2.2.~ Wed Nov 7 20:43:02 2001 +++ editfns.c Sat Nov 10 19:57:27 2001 @@ -1176,6 +1176,14 @@ static void set_time_zone_rule (char *tzstring); +Lisp_Object +make_time (time) + time_t time; +{ + return Fcons (make_int (time >> 16), + Fcons (make_int (time & 0177777), Qnil)); +} + DEFUN ("encode-time", Fencode_time, 6, MANY, 0, /* Convert SECOND, MINUTE, HOUR, DAY, MONTH, YEAR and ZONE to internal time. This is the reverse operation of `decode-time', which see. @@ -1249,7 +1257,7 @@ if (the_time == (time_t) -1) error ("Specified time is not representable"); - return wasteful_word_to_lisp (the_time); + return make_time (the_time); } DEFUN ("current-time-string", Fcurrent_time_string, 0, 1, 0, /* -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 01:59:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA12131; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:59:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA12085 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:58:06 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166RJt-0008R0-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:57:17 +0900 To: "David A. Cobb" Cc: Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Proposing a tiny change References: <3BF983E5.3090200@home.com> <87adxije0r.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFA914C.2020206@home.com> <87oflxdj7q.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFB330B.3020609@home.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 21 Nov 2001 15:57:16 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3BFB330B.3020609@home.com> Message-ID: <876684ehmb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "David" == David A Cobb writes: David> And you've given the answer I needed. If I say "r21-5-3" & David> "no local changes" you know precisely what my source tree David> looks like. There is no need to identify the date/time David> when I downloaded it. Right. I'm sorry it took so long to reach a meeting of minds. Just goes to prove, concurrency is HARD. :-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 02:20:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA13895; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:20:04 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA13788 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:19:02 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166Re1-0008T8-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:18:05 +0900 To: "David A. Cobb" Cc: Xemacs Beta Development MailList Subject: Re: Further Adventures building r21-5-3/i686-pc-cygwin References: <3BF97FC0.9000601@home.com> <87g07ajgui.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3BFA8EF2.5030801@home.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 21 Nov 2001 16:18:04 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3BFA8EF2.5030801@home.com> Message-ID: <871yisegnn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 353 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "David" == David A Cobb writes: David> If I were to put a couple of "(message" lines into David> autoload.el, would the batch-mode run send these to stderr? David> Or is there a better built-in to use? It takes a little fooling around to get messages to go to the terminal. Use the ancient prin1 and princ forms. (They differ in how they quote Lisp data.) What does your environment look like (environment varialbes, PATH, and the Windows registry)? XEmacs should ignore that stuff during build, but often we get caught looking at the wrong external information. David> I'm enclosing my 'update-elc.el' file; could you perhaps David> diff it against yours? Mine is the way it came off the David> 'net or as munged by configure. It's OK. configure does not touch any Lisp. Late in the make it gets compiled. Three lisp files (finder-inf.el, auto-autoloads.el and custom-load.el) are built from scratch. Otherwise it should be pristine. [The rest is pretty OT.] David> I'll look, but it still seems strange. Lisp is not your average programming language. It has bizarre idioms. David> Even if those /if/ forms are nested inside an enclosing David> function it would only produce one result, no? The several David> /if/ forms may return several values but I don't think they David> will get where they're desired as it's written. *scratch* is your friend. Try it yourself. C-x b *scratch* RET (if t (list "A" "B") (list "C" "D")) LF (if nil (list "E" "F") (list "G" "H")) LF (append (if t (list "A" "B") (list "C" "D")) (if nil (list "E" "F") (list "G" "H"))) LF Also try substituting `list' and `vector' for `append'. Note that although LF is magic, it doesn't know anything about what you do, it reads the buffer to find out what you want. So feel free to erase, mung, edit, copy, use abbrev-mode, keyboard macros, or even cut and paste from this message. David> If I correctly understand that, should it not be a /(cond / David> form? Try substituting `cond' in the `append' form above. You'll get an error. Then take each (if ...) form and wrap it with extra parens in the cond ((if ...)). See what happens. So each if form, each cond form, produces _one_ value. It might be a list containing many things. But Lisp grabs a "handle" to it, and you can pass that "handle" around very efficiently, like a pointer to a struct in C or an object in Smalltalk. Anyway, this should all be moved to comp.lisp or comp.emacs or comp.emacs.xemacs. > -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate, All around nice guy. New PGP key 09/13/2001: : : Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B} "By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." --The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. French [tr.] Potentially Viral Software is any software for which you are not allowed to examine the source. Do not buy or use Potentially Viral Software! ;;; update-elc.el --- Bytecompile out-of-date dumped files ;; Copyright (C) 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. ;; Copyright (C) 1996 Sun Microsystems, Inc. ;; Copyright (C) 2001 Ben Wing. ;; Author: Ben Wing ;; Based On: Original by Steven L Baur ;; Maintainer: XEmacs Development Team ;; Keywords: internal ;; This file is part of XEmacs. ;; XEmacs is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it ;; under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by ;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) ;; any later version. ;; XEmacs is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but ;; WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of ;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU ;; General Public License for more details. ;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License ;; along with XEmacs; see the file COPYING. If not, write to the ;; Free Software Foundation, 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, ;; Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. ;;; Synched up with: Not in FSF. ;;; Commentary: ;; Byte compile the .EL files necessary to dump out xemacs. ;; Use this file like this: ;; temacs -batch -l ../lisp/update-elc.el $lisp ;; where $lisp comes from the Makefile. .elc files listed in $lisp will ;; cause the corresponding .el file to be compiled. .el files listed in ;; $lisp will be ignored. ;; (the idea here is that you can bootstrap if your .ELC files ;; are missing or badly out-of-date) ;; See also update-elc-2.el ;;; Code: (defvar processed nil) (defvar update-elc-files-to-compile nil) (defvar need-to-rebuild-autoloads nil) (defvar need-to-rebuild-mule-autoloads nil) (defvar need-to-recompile-autoloads nil) (defvar need-to-recompile-mule-autoloads nil) ;(setq update-elc-files-to-compile ; (delq nil ; (mapcar (function ; (lambda (x) ; (if (string-match "\.elc$" x) ; (let ((src (substring x 0 -1))) ; (if (file-newer-than-file-p src x) ; (progn ; (and (file-exists-p x) ; (null (file-writable-p x)) ; (set-file-modes x (logior (file-modes x) 128))) ; src)))))) ; ;; -batch gets filtered out. ; (nthcdr 3 command-line-args)))) (let ((build-root (expand-file-name ".." invocation-directory))) (setq load-path (list (expand-file-name "lisp" build-root)))) (load "very-early-lisp" nil t) (load "find-paths.el") (load "packages.el") (load "setup-paths.el") (load "dump-paths.el") (defun update-elc-chop-extension (file) (if (string-match "\\.elc?$" file) (substring file 0 (match-beginning 0)) file)) ;; we used to call packages-list-autoloads here, but it's false generality. ;; we need to handle each autoload file differently and there are only ;; two of them. (let (preloaded-file-list site-load-packages need-to-dump dumped-exe files-to-process) (load (expand-file-name "../lisp/dumped-lisp.el")) (setq dumped-exe (cond ((file-exists-p "../src/xemacs.exe") "../src/xemacs.exe") ((file-exists-p "../src/xemacs") "../src/xemacs") (t nil))) ;; Path setup (let ((package-preloaded-file-list (packages-collect-package-dumped-lisps late-package-load-path))) (setq preloaded-file-list (append package-preloaded-file-list preloaded-file-list packages-hardcoded-lisp))) (load (concat default-directory "../site-packages") t t) (setq preloaded-file-list (append packages-hardcoded-lisp preloaded-file-list site-load-packages)) ;; bytecomp, byte-optimize, and autoload are mentioned in ;; packages-useful-lisp. (setq files-to-process (append packages-useful-lisp preloaded-file-list)) (while files-to-process (let* ((arg (car files-to-process)) (arg-is-preloaded (member arg preloaded-file-list)) (arg-sans-extension (update-elc-chop-extension arg)) (full-arg (locate-library arg-sans-extension)) (full-arg-sans-extension (if (null full-arg) (progn (print (format "Error: Library file %s not found" arg)) ;; Uncomment in case of trouble ;;(print (format "late-packages: %S" late-packages)) ;;(print (format "guessed-roots: %S" ;; (paths-find-emacs-roots ;; invocation-directory invocation-name))) (kill-emacs)) (update-elc-chop-extension full-arg))) (full-arg-el (concat full-arg-sans-extension ".el")) (full-arg-elc (concat full-arg-sans-extension ".elc")) (full-arg-dir (file-name-directory full-arg-el)) (autoload-file (expand-file-name "auto-autoloads.el" full-arg-dir)) (autoload-is-mule (string-match "[/\\]mule[/\\]$" full-arg-dir))) ;; (print full-arg-el) ;; now check if .el or .elc is newer than the dumped exe. ;; if so, need to redump. (when (and dumped-exe arg-is-preloaded (or (and (file-exists-p full-arg-el) (file-newer-than-file-p full-arg-el dumped-exe)) (and (file-exists-p full-arg-elc) (file-newer-than-file-p full-arg-elc dumped-exe)))) (setq need-to-dump t)) (when (or (not (file-exists-p autoload-file)) (and (file-exists-p full-arg-el) (file-newer-than-file-p full-arg-el autoload-file))) (if autoload-is-mule (setq need-to-rebuild-mule-autoloads t) (setq need-to-rebuild-autoloads t))) (if (and (not (member (file-name-nondirectory arg) packages-unbytecompiled-lisp)) (not (member full-arg-el processed)) (file-exists-p full-arg-el) (or (not (file-exists-p full-arg-elc)) (file-newer-than-file-p full-arg-el full-arg-elc))) (setq processed (cons full-arg-el processed))) (setq files-to-process (cdr files-to-process)))) (if need-to-dump (condition-case nil (write-region-internal "foo" nil "../src/NEEDTODUMP") (file-error nil))) ) (when (or need-to-rebuild-autoloads (not (file-exists-p "../lisp/auto-autoloads.el")) (not (file-exists-p "../lisp/auto-autoloads.elc")) (file-newer-than-file-p "../lisp/auto-autoloads.el" "../lisp/auto-autoloads.elc")) (setq need-to-recompile-autoloads t)) (when (or need-to-rebuild-mule-autoloads (not (file-exists-p "../lisp/mule/auto-autoloads.el")) (not (file-exists-p "../lisp/mule/auto-autoloads.elc")) (file-newer-than-file-p "../lisp/mule/auto-autoloads.el" "../lisp/mule/auto-autoloads.elc")) (setq need-to-recompile-mule-autoloads t)) (when (not (featurep 'mule)) ;; sorry charlie. (setq need-to-rebuild-mule-autoloads nil need-to-recompile-mule-autoloads nil)) (setq update-elc-files-to-compile (append update-elc-files-to-compile (nreverse processed))) ;; (print update-elc-files-to-compile) (if (and (not update-elc-files-to-compile) (not need-to-rebuild-autoloads) (not need-to-rebuild-mule-autoloads) (not need-to-recompile-autoloads) (not need-to-recompile-mule-autoloads)) (condition-case nil (delete-file "../src/NOBYTECOMPILE") (file-error nil)) (let* ( (bytecomp-arg (concat (update-elc-chop-extension (locate-library "bytecomp")) ".el")) (byte-opt-arg (concat (update-elc-chop-extension (locate-library "byte-optimize")) ".el")) (autoload-arg (concat (update-elc-chop-extension (locate-library "autoload")) ".el")) ) (setq inhibit-autoloads t) (setq command-line-args (append '("-l" "loadup-el.el" "run-temacs" "-batch" "-q" "-no-site-file") ;; if bytecomp or byte-optimize need recompiling, then load ;; the .el version of them first, recompile them, and reload ;; the .elc versions to recompile everything else (so we won't ;; be waiting until the cows come home). we need to set ;; load-ignore-elc-files because byte-optimize gets autoloaded ;; from bytecomp. (if (or (member bytecomp-arg update-elc-files-to-compile) (member byte-opt-arg update-elc-files-to-compile)) (append '("-eval" "(setq load-ignore-elc-files t)" "-l" "bytecomp") (if (member bytecomp-arg update-elc-files-to-compile) (append '("-f" "batch-byte-compile-one-file") (list bytecomp-arg))) (if (member byte-opt-arg update-elc-files-to-compile) (append '("-f" "batch-byte-compile-one-file") (list byte-opt-arg))) '("-eval" "(setq load-ignore-elc-files nil)"))) '("-l" "bytecomp") ;; likewise, recompile autoload.el if out-of-date. (if (member autoload-arg update-elc-files-to-compile) (append '("-f" "batch-byte-compile-one-file") (list autoload-arg))) ;; then generate autoloads for lisp and maybe lisp/mule. (if (or need-to-rebuild-autoloads need-to-rebuild-mule-autoloads) '("-l" "autoload")) (if need-to-rebuild-autoloads '("-f" "batch-force-update-one-directory" "../lisp")) (if need-to-rebuild-mule-autoloads '("-f" "batch-force-update-one-directory" "../lisp/mule")) (if need-to-recompile-autoloads '("-f" "batch-byte-compile-one-file" "../lisp/auto-autoloads.el")) (if need-to-recompile-mule-autoloads '("-f" "batch-byte-compile-one-file" "../lisp/mule/auto-autoloads.el")) ;; now load the autoloads and compile alles anderes. '("-eval" "(setq inhibit-autoloads nil)" "-f" "startup-load-autoloads" "-f" "batch-byte-compile") (delete autoload-arg (delete byte-opt-arg (delete bytecomp-arg update-elc-files-to-compile)))))) (load "loadup-el.el")) (kill-emacs) ;;; update-elc.el ends here -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 08:20:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA30299; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:20:11 -0500 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru (pluton.ispras.ru [194.186.94.6]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA30264 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:19:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 81939 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 13:09:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gate.ispras.ru) (194.67.37.200) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 13:09:20 -0000 Received: from fog.ispras.ru (fog [194.67.37.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id fALDJUs04212 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:19:30 +0300 (MSK) Received: tid NAA22119; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:45:39 +0200 Received: from OPAL.kasbek.ispras.ru (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [194.186.94.150]) by sever.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fALAnUm33740 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:49:30 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from npak@ispras.ru) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: xemacs-21.4 latest CVS does not compile on native Win2000 From: npak@ispras.ru (Nick Pakoulin) Date: 21 Nov 2001 13:43:49 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On the latest CVS snapshot MSVC6 barfs af fileio.c: if (IS_DIRECTORY_SEP (nm[1])) { if (strcmp ((char *) nm, (char *) XSTRING_DATA (name)) != 0) name = build_string ((CBufbyte *) nm); } Undefined identifier CBufbyte. To compile I replaced (CBufbyte *) with (char *). It seems to work. Nick. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 08:54:15 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA31922; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:54:03 -0500 Received: from zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com (zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.157]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA31904 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:53:55 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com [47.165.25.40]) by zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fALDqxS27944 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:52:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fALDUCk25119 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:30:12 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:29:09 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W09VAG3S; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:28:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XGRJB6CD; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:28:09 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166XR4-0000X3-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:29:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15355.44066.564276.512537@europe.nortel.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:29:06 +0100 To: Darryl Okahata , Andy Piper , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Crash with xemacs 21.4.4 In-Reply-To: <15353.10599.248372.222793@europe.nortel.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011030121700.00b7c7d0@san-francisco.beasys.com> <200110302120.NAA01099@mina.soco.agilent.com> <15353.10599.248372.222793@europe.nortel.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Robert Pluim writes: > > This is on Solaris 2.7, using 21.4.5. I'm going to download OpenMotif > and see if that helps, since this points more towards Motif than > XEmacs. And just to confirm that this is in fact a Motif bug, installing the following patches on my 2.7 machine solved the problem for me: 107081-40 107656-07 Tthe equivalent patches for Solaris 2.8 are: 108940-33 and 108652-25. -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 12:13:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10590; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:12:06 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10490 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:11:01 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fALHB0V07636; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com ([192.168.11.69]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29656; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:10:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011121090509.00b92200@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:05:19 -0800 To: Robert Pluim , Darryl Okahata , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Crash with xemacs 21.4.4 In-Reply-To: <15355.44066.564276.512537@europe.nortel.com> References: <15353.10599.248372.222793@europe.nortel.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011030121700.00b7c7d0@san-francisco.beasys.com> <200110302120.NAA01099@mina.soco.agilent.com> <15353.10599.248372.222793@europe.nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Can we put this in PROBLEMS? andy At 02:29 PM 11/21/01 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: >Robert Pluim writes: > > > > This is on Solaris 2.7, using 21.4.5. I'm going to download OpenMotif > > and see if that helps, since this points more towards Motif than > > XEmacs. > >And just to confirm that this is in fact a Motif bug, installing the >following patches on my 2.7 machine solved the problem for me: > >107081-40 107656-07 > >Tthe equivalent patches for Solaris 2.8 are: 108940-33 and 108652-25. > >-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 15:53:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26068; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:52:11 -0500 Received: from dolk.extundo.com (dolk.extundo.com [195.42.214.242]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA25956; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:51:18 -0500 Received: from dhcp128.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fALKpMmb002806; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:51:22 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4 APPROVE COMMIT] handle negative ctimes reasonably in encode-time References: <87snb8cwwp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: <87snb8cwwp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "21 Nov 2001 18:09:58 +0900") Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:50:53 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Index: src/ChangeLog > =================================================================== > RCS file: /usr/CVSroot/XEmacs/xemacs/src/ChangeLog,v > retrieving revision 1.290.2.15 > retrieving revision 1.290.2.15.4.1 > diff -u -r1.290.2.15 -r1.290.2.15.4.1 > --- src/ChangeLog 23 Oct 2001 11:02:38 -0000 1.290.2.15 > +++ src/ChangeLog 21 Nov 2001 07:56:52 -0000 1.290.2.15.4.1 > @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ > +2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull > + > + * editfns.c (make_time): New function. > + (Fencode_time): Use it instead of wasteful_word_to_lisp. > + * lisp.h (make_time): Prototype and comment it. > + * dired.c (wasteful_word_to_lisp): Deprecate. > + (Ffile_attributes): Use make_time() instead of wasteful_word_to_lisp(). If I want to test these XEmacs 21.4 fixes, which CVS tag should I use? "release-21-4" doesn't seem to do it (no changes since 21.4.5), neither does cnadidate-21-4. That is, I want the latest stable branch. Btw, thanks for working on this problem. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 20:57:42 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA10014; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:56:30 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA09938; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:55:05 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166j4A-00032S-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:54:14 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-nt@xemacs.org Subject: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 22 Nov 2001 10:54:13 +0900 Message-ID: <877ksjd0ze.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 309 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Check it out from CVS at the usual places (for anoncvs, use CVSROOT=:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/xemacscvs, password is "cvs"). Use tag "r21-4-6rc1". The repository at SunSITE seems corrupt; the admin has been notified. Do "cvs status version.sh" to check; if the server aborts because "an expected branch is missing," it's not yet been fixed. Please report any other errors or oddities, as they probably indicate a different problem. For immediate use, the usual set of tarballs and a patchkit against r21-4-5 are available at ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/xemacs-21.4/pretest There are some pending changes, there will be at least one more rc before 21.4.6 is publically released. Probably rc2 will happen at the beginning of next week. If you feel you only want to test one, I would prefer you get this one ASAP because I want as many people to bang on the Custom fix for as long as possible. Try to make it do weird things, try it for anything you think a "typical user" might do. Main features to be tested: 1) A fix for the "can't frob italic face" bug. YMMV, but I at least can now vary the size and family of italic. All hail Jan Vroonhof. 2) Some pearls for the GTK crowd, maybe. GTK faces will now get initialized, courtesy of John Paul Wallington. John fears that this then breaks face customization in some other way, but I don't see how. He did not have Jan's patch, so perhaps things are really all right now. Please test and let me know. 3) A full synch to Andy Piper's release of 21.4.5 for the Windows people. Andy has moved on ahead, but maybe you do want to test this branch anyway because of Jan's Customize fix. 4) A fix, actually two of them, for the "crash mysteriously on making first frame" bug. GNU ld now literally stirs up your binary before giving it back to you, leaving you fried. You can either pass -z nocombreloc to ld, or use --pdump. Autoconfiscated, should "just work". Bleeding edge Linux users, please test. 5) This time I really did kneecap IPv6 CNAME checks, which I promised last time but somehow didn't make it into the release. It is of course the RaitThang[tm], so you can have 'em if you want 'em with --with-ipv6-cname=yes. This will get reversed at some later date, but for now there are many more weakly connected people than people with IPv6 environments. 6) For the eye candy crowd who wanna do it themselves, finally a tutorial on things flashy and trashy. Kudos to Darryl Okahata. C-h i "Lispref" "Glyph Examples". 7) Fixes for the autosave lossage in Japanese mail with VM, from Kyle, for misdecoding of negative ctimes, from GNU via Simon Josefsson, and for the failure of truncate-partial-width-windows to live up to its billing as "buffer local" from Ben. Many other small changes. I'd especially appreciate you Windows users digging up all the regressions (well, yes, there may be regressions) versus Andy's 21.4.5 (== the version available via netinstaller, aka r21-4-5-windows in CVS). Brief summary of Changes to 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" - Fix incorrect ctime to Lisp conversion. - HP-UX LDFLAGS fix. - Many typo fixes and small documentation enhancements. - New section of examples of glyph usage in Lispref. - Make `truncate-partial-width-windows' effect buffer-local. - Suppress bogus focus changes. - Fix custom's handling of font size and family. - Fix comboreloc crash (common on Linux when making first frame). - Default --with-ipv6-cname=no. - From 21.4.5 "Civil Service (Windows)": - Fixed a scrollbar problem when selecting the frame with focus. - Fixed `mswindows-shell-execute' under cygwin. - Added a new function `mswindows-cygwin-to-win32-path' for JDE. - Added support for dialog-based directory selection. - The installer version has been updated to the 21.5 netinstaller. The 21.5 installer now does proper dde file association and adds uninstall capability. - Handle leak fix from Mike Alexander. - New release build script. -------- ChangeLog entries from ChangeLog -------- 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" is released. 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * Makefile.in.in: HP-UX needs LDFLAGS. From Lutz Jaenicke . 2001-11-17 Stephen J. Turnbull * configure.in: Fix typos in comments. * (Miscellaneous flags): Use -z nocombreloc if supported and !pdump. * (Installation): Suggest pdump instead of -z nocomboreloc. * configure.usage: Document --quick-build. 2001-10-30 Stephen J. Turnbull * configure.in: Typo in reference to with_ipv6_cname. 2001-10-30 Stephen J. Turnbull * configure.in: Initialize with_ipv6_cname=no. * configure.usage: Document it. -------- ChangeLog entries from lib-src/ChangeLog -------- 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" is released. -------- ChangeLog entries from lisp/ChangeLog -------- 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" is released. 2001-11-20 Stephen J. Turnbull * faces.el (make-face-family): (make-face-size): New face-modifying functions per Jan Vroonhof. cus-face.el (custom-set-face-font-family): (custom-set-face-font-size): Use them. * font.el (font-window-system-mappings): More precise docstring. (font-create-name): (font-create-object): (tty-font-create-object): (tty-font-create-plist): (x-font-create-object): (x-font-create-name): (ns-font-create-name): (mswindows-font-create-object): (mswindows-font-create-name): Add doctrings. 2001-11-14 John Paul Wallington * gtk-faces.el (gtk-init-device-faces): removed spurious quote before let* expression. 2001-10-29 Andy Piper * code-files.el (toggle-buffer-file-coding-system): mark buffer as modified when changing coding system. * toolbar-items.el (toolbar-dired): Use interactive "D" spec so that we invoke the GUI directory selector. 2001-10-25 Andy Piper * dialog.el (make-dialog-box): use new directory dialog support. * minibuf.el (read-file-name-1): ditto. (read-file-name): ditto. (read-directory-name): ditto. -------- ChangeLog entries from lwlib/ChangeLog -------- 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" is released. -------- ChangeLog entries from man/ChangeLog -------- 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" is released. 2001-11-15 Darryl Okahata * lispref/glyphs.texi: lispref/lispref.texi: Add examples of how to insert graphics into a buffer. -------- ChangeLog entries from netinstall/ChangeLog -------- 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" is released. 2001-10-27 Andy Piper * localdir.cc (dialog_cmd): allow download directory to be created. * log.cc (exit_setup): cygwin -> XEmacs * net.cc (dialog_cmd): (dialog_proc): (do_net): sync with cygwin installer. * res.rc: * resource.h (IDS_CREATE_DIR): new. * source.cc (load_dialog): (save_dialog): (dialog_cmd): (dialog_proc): (do_source): sync with cygwin installer. * uninstall.cc (progress): remove log message. * Makefile.in.in: generated setup-bin.ini correctly. 2001-10-25 Andy Piper * Merge 21.5 codeline. 2001-10-25 Andy Piper * setup.mak (OBJS): minor build fixes. (distclean): -------- ChangeLog entries from nt/ChangeLog -------- 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" is released. -------- ChangeLog entries from src/ChangeLog -------- 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" is released. 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * editfns.c (make_time): New function. (Fencode_time): Use it instead of wasteful_word_to_lisp. * lisp.h (make_time): Prototype and comment it. * dired.c (wasteful_word_to_lisp): Deprecate. (Ffile_attributes): Use make_time() instead of wasteful_word_to_lisp(). 2001-10-31 Kyle Jones * fileio.c (auto_save_1): Use current coding system, not escape-quoted. 2001-11-13 Ben Wing * window.c: * window.c (window_truncation_on): * window.c (syms_of_window): truncate-partial-width-windows should respect the buffer being displayed, like other redisplay vars. 2001-11-13 Hirokazu FUKUI * event-stream.c (Fread_key_sequence): save current buffer. 2001-10-29 Andrew Begel * ntheap.c (_heap_init): Don't redefine in VS.NET (MSC >= 1300). 2001-10-29 Andrew Begel * alloc.c (lcrecord_stats): Add space for types defined in modules. 2001-10-26 Mike Alexander * event-msw.c (slurper_free_shared_data_maybe): Free the pipe handle. 2001-10-25 Andy Piper * ChangeLog: * dialog-msw.c (handle_directory_proc): new function. (handle_directory_dialog_box): new fucntion. (handle_file_dialog_box): use new directory dialog support. (mswindows_make_dialog_box_internal): ditto. * event-msw.c (mswindows_wnd_proc): minor fix to scrollbar event handling. (mswindows_find_frame): make global. * fileio.c (Fexpand_file_name): build fix. * general-slots.h: add Qdirectory. * scrollbar-msw.c (mswindows_handle_scrollbar_event): fix focus handling. * syswindows.h (LOCAL_TO_WIN32_FILE_FORMAT): fix problem with cygwin not leaving win32 paths unchanged. * win32.c (Fmswindows_cygwin_to_win32_path): new function. Use the cygwin runtime to do path conversion. (Fmswindows_shell_execute): fix cygwin handling of URLs. (syms_of_win32): add new function. * window.c (window_loop): build fix. 2001-10-15 Andy Piper (Fmswindows_shell_execute): fix handling of URL's under cygwin. -------- ChangeLog entries from tests/ChangeLog -------- 2001-11-21 Stephen J. Turnbull * XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" is released. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 21:25:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA12335; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:25:04 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA12281; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:24:05 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166jWD-00036K-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:23:13 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-nt@xemacs.org Subject: Status of CVS improved, but r21-4-6rc1 still not available Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 22 Nov 2001 11:23:13 +0900 Message-ID: <87y9kzbl2m.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Please wait for an announcment about availability. After 15 minutes of the server abort, the ./version.sh archive has mysteriously recovered health, but _without_ containing r21-4-6rc1. So the "cvs status" check I suggested no longer works. Please note that trying the checkout to see if it works is quite dangerous, because CVS keeps the tags in the archives. If there is no tag in the archive, CVS will at best issue a warning that some files (most of them!) are no longer relevant and continue. There is no way for CVS to realize which files should contain changes. Sorry for the premature announcement. The tarballs should be fine, and the version.sh archive seems to contain all relevant tags except the new one, so probably we are OK for updates to other branches and the trunk. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 21:44:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA13593; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:44:02 -0500 Received: from jpl.org (groundpoundrecords.com [207.228.244.150]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA13543 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:43:16 -0500 Received: from yamaoka@jpl.org by jpl.org (jpl.org [207.228.245.242]) (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAM2hBI21666 Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:43:11 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:42:49 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: [21.4.6] configure problem on solaris 2.6 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, sparc-sun-solaris2.6) Mule-UCS/0.84 =?iso-2022-jp?b?KEtPVUdFVFNVREFJOhskQjh+N24bKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCQmYbKEIp?= X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( Cancel-Lock: sha1:DBLeZHQ56obVzgKtJ+j9Ffu2EOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, I found a problem in configure which I checked out from sunsite.dk using a tag `-r r21-4-6rc1'. I am using solaris 2.6 with the native ld (/usr/ucb/ld). The configure script calls ld with the arg `--help', however, ld does not allow such a option, but it returns the following: /usr/ccs/bin/ld: illegal option -- - usage: ld [-abd:e:f:h:il:mo:rstu:z:B:D:F:GI:L:M:N:Q:R:S:VY:] file(s) ; ; [-z combreloc] combine multiple relocation sections And then, configure adds `-z nocombreloc' to $ld_switch_site even if there is no such a option. :-< -- Katsumi Yamaoka From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 22:31:26 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA15952; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:31:12 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA15909 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:30:28 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166kYH-0003CW-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:29:25 +0900 To: npak@ispras.ru (Nick Pakoulin) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: xemacs-21.4 latest CVS does not compile on native Win2000 References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 22 Nov 2001 12:29:25 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87g077bi0a.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nick" == Nick Pakoulin writes: name = build_string ((CBufbyte *) nm); Fixed in 21.4.6. Already in 21.4.6 rc1, in pretest. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 22:44:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA16594; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:44:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA16557; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:43:06 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166kka-0003D4-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:42:08 +0900 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4 APPROVE COMMIT] handle negative ctimes reasonably in encode-time References: <87snb8cwwp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 22 Nov 2001 12:42:08 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87bshvbhf3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> If I want to test these XEmacs 21.4 fixes, which CVS tag Simon> should I use? "release-21-4" doesn't seem to do it (no Simon> changes since 21.4.5), neither does cnadidate-21-4. That Simon> is, I want the latest stable branch. Hm. candidate-21-4 works for me. release-21-4 will not pick up any changes until there's a public release, of course. The SunSITE mirror repository lags and currently seems to be corrupt, as well. But you said before you'd stick to tanko. [Sorry, the primary repository is only available to committers, my firewall and bandwidth issues make anoncvs difficult.] Try again? Also try -r r21-4-6rc1. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 23:16:23 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17963; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:16:06 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17938 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:15:49 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166lGM-0003Fy-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:14:58 +0900 To: Katsumi Yamaoka Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4.6] configure problem on solaris 2.6 References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 22 Nov 2001 13:14:58 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87zo5fa1bx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "KY" == Katsumi Yamaoka writes: usage: ld [-abd:e:f:h:il:mo:rstu:z:B:D:F:GI:L:M:N:Q:R:S:VY:] file(s) ; ; [-z combreloc] combine multiple relocation sections KY> And then, configure adds `-z nocombreloc' to $ld_switch_site KY> even if there is no such a option. :-< Good, the configure test is working as intended. I was worried about that. The problem is easy enough to fix. For GNU ld, the nocombreloc option is explicitly listed, and I'll check for that instead. You can work around by either hacking configure or by using --pdump. Does your linker support turning those -z options off in another way? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 21 23:20:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA18139; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:20:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA18084 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:19:15 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166lJi-0003GN-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:18:26 +0900 To: Katsumi Yamaoka Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4.6] configure problem on solaris 2.6 References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 22 Nov 2001 13:18:25 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87u1vna166.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "KY" == Katsumi Yamaoka writes: KY> I found a problem in configure which I checked out from KY> sunsite.dk using a tag `-r r21-4-6rc1'. Did you try to get a full update? Check version.sh. As far as I can tell, you will not get a correct checkout from sunsite.dk yet. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 00:17:47 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA21476; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:17:13 -0500 Received: from jpl.org (groundpoundrecords.com [207.228.244.150]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA21437; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:16:03 -0500 Received: from yamaoka@jpl.org by jpl.org (jpl.org [207.228.245.242]) (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAM5G3910090 Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:16:03 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:15:41 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4.6] configure problem on solaris 2.6 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group References: <87zo5fa1bx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87u1vna166.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII User-Agent: T-gnus/6.15.4 (based on Oort Gnus v0.04) (revision 08) XEmacs/21.5 (beta3) (asparagus) (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) WEMIKO/1.14.1 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNl9KXExTQ24bKEI=?=) CLIME/1.14.3 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCO3swZkA+OH0bKEI=?=) APEL/10.3 X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( Cancel-Lock: sha1:OEndBfUbtlbtoAStOrrTeUUUnj8= Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> In <87zo5fa1bx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> >>>>> "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > >>>>> "KY" == Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > usage: ld [-abd:e:f:h:il:mo:rstu:z:B:D:F:GI:L:M:N:Q:R:S:VY:] file(s) > ; > ; > [-z combreloc] combine multiple relocation sections > KY> And then, configure adds `-z nocombreloc' to $ld_switch_site > KY> even if there is no such a option. :-< Stephen> Good, the configure test is working as intended. I was Stephen> worried about that. I see. You use `2>&1' for redirection. Stephen> The problem is easy enough to fix. For GNU ld, the Stephen> nocombreloc option is explicitly listed, and I'll check for Stephen> that instead. You can work around by either hacking Stephen> configure or by using --pdump. Thanks. I will try to use `nocombreloc' in configure.in later. Stephen> Does your linker support turning those -z options off in Stephen> another way? I don't know. I'm not good at those things, sorry. >>>>> In <87u1vna166.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> >>>>> "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > KY> I found a problem in configure which I checked out from > KY> sunsite.dk using a tag `-r r21-4-6rc1'. Stephen> Did you try to get a full update? Check version.sh. As far Stephen> as I can tell, you will not get a correct checkout from Stephen> sunsite.dk yet. I am a liar. I was using the candidate branch. :-p Now, downloading a tarball via ftp is in progress... -- Katsumi Yamaoka From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 00:51:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA23988; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:51:09 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA23930; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:49:58 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166mjT-0003MW-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:49:07 +0900 To: Katsumi Yamaoka Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4.6] configure problem on solaris 2.6 References: <87zo5fa1bx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87u1vna166.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 22 Nov 2001 14:49:07 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87adxf9wz0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "KY" == Katsumi Yamaoka writes: Stephen> The problem is easy enough to fix. For GNU ld, the Stephen> nocombreloc option is explicitly listed, and I'll check Stephen> for that instead. You can work around by either hacking Stephen> configure or by using --pdump. KY> Thanks. I will try to use `nocombreloc' in configure.in KY> later. I suggest simply deleting that whole section from configure by hand. The next update of configure.in should work for you by default. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 01:29:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA25385; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:29:09 -0500 Received: from jpl.org (groundpoundrecords.com [207.228.244.150]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA25362; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:28:44 -0500 Received: from yamaoka@jpl.org by jpl.org (jpl.org [207.228.245.242]) (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fAM6SiE16934 Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:28:44 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:28:24 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4.6] configure problem on solaris 2.6 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group References: <87zo5fa1bx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87u1vna166.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87adxf9wz0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1), sparc-sun-solaris2.6) Mule-UCS/0.84 =?iso-2022-jp?b?KEtPVUdFVFNVREFJOhskQjh+N24bKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCQmYbKEIp?= X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`;Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu;B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( Cancel-Lock: sha1:cN/J/osMrWKR2k0rtMMZYFdf8TY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> In <87adxf9wz0.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> >>>>> "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > KY> Thanks. I will try to use `nocombreloc' in configure.in > KY> later. Stephen> I suggest simply deleting that whole section from configure Stephen> by hand. The next update of configure.in should work for you Stephen> by default. I did it. 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Turnbull" Cc: Katsumi Yamaoka , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4.6] configure problem on solaris 2.6 In-Reply-To: <87zo5fa1bx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87zo5fa1bx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull writes: > >>>>> "KY" == Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > > usage: ld [-abd:e:f:h:il:mo:rstu:z:B:D:F:GI:L:M:N:Q:R:S:VY:] file(s) > ; > ; > [-z combreloc] combine multiple relocation sections > > KY> And then, configure adds `-z nocombreloc' to $ld_switch_site > KY> even if there is no such a option. :-< > > Good, the configure test is working as intended. I was worried about > that. > > The problem is easy enough to fix. For GNU ld, the nocombreloc option > is explicitly listed, and I'll check for that instead. You can work > around by either hacking configure or by using --pdump. > > Does your linker support turning those -z options off in another way? The solaris 2.7 ld I have here supports -z combreloc, but not -z nocombreloc, and lists only -z combreloc in the usage message you get when it bitches about not understanding --help. Testing for nocombreloc should work. Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 05:56:44 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA03075; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:56:08 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA03037; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:55:12 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166rUu-0003d3-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:54:24 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-nt@xemacs.org Subject: XEmacs 21.4.6rc1 is now available by CVS Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 22 Nov 2001 19:54:24 +0900 Message-ID: <87g0775b4v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , You now can get the release candidate with cvs -d:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/xemacscvs update -r r21-4-6rc1 (or equivalent), or by FTP in the usual tarballs or patchkit against r21-4-5 in ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/ If you get unusual problems with the build or the binary on source updated from CVS, you might want to try re-updating before complaining to the list. Andy confirms that he will have the custom stuff in his next release for Windows, coming soon. I still encourage Windows users to test drive the custom stuff as soon as possible, of course. :-) My guess is that the problem is U of Tsukuba network issues. We are taking immediate measures to make the mirror more robust to the vagaries of my network admins (and more measured plans to move the primary repository to somewhere better connected). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 09:09:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10684; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:08:09 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10650; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:07:39 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07171; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA22435; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com (d5dc120j.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.101]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA24238; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:02:49 +0100 (MET) To: Torsten.Duwe@caldera.de Cc: Adrian Aichner , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Fixing evil replace-match References: <200111221145.fAMBjdJ13149@ns.caldera.de> <15356.61928.768420.120128@ns.caldera.de> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 22 Nov 2001 15:08:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <15356.61928.768420.120128@ns.caldera.de> Message-ID: <7ksi2918.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> Lines: 84 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Torsten" == Torsten Duwe writes: Adrian> Above does not crash my (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.4 (patch 6) Adrian> \"Common Lisp (candidate 1)\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Thu Nov Adrian> 22 2001 on D5DC120J" Discussion moved to xemacs-beta@xemacs.org! Torsten> Hmm, Torsten> http://www.xemacs.org says: Torsten> [...] Torsten> Current Releases Torsten> Stable branch: Torsten> 21.1.14 Torsten> Gamma branch: Torsten> 21.4.5 This will need to be updated by the release engineer (hint, hint). Torsten> Beta branch: Torsten> 21.5.3 Torsten> [...] Torsten> and anonftp agrees with this :-( Will need to be updated too. Adrian> I get this instead: Adrian> Signaling: (wrong-type-argument bufferp 1) ... Torsten> Yes, it probably depends on lisp-{,dis}union and compiler Torsten> optimizations. Maybe your (CVS ?) version also has Torsten> additional checks. Did you use cygwin or some "other" Torsten> compiler ? system-configuration "i586-pc-win32" means Windows native. I use MS VS 6 on Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] Torsten> Anyway, one of the many versions affected is XEmacs 21.4 Torsten> (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" [Lucid] Torsten> (i386-Caldera-linux, Mule) of Thu Oct 25 2001 on Torsten> proliant.caldera.de Torsten> I strongly doubt M-x emacs-bug adds more relevant info, How will you ever know without trying it? :-) Torsten> but I can tell you this: "gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 Torsten> (release)"'s assembler output for decode_buffer at -O3 on Torsten> an i386-linux-elf shows that it has re-ordered the lisp Torsten> object deref in front of the allow_string-test for speed Torsten> purposes. Torsten> This crashes on said platform if decode_buffer is ever Torsten> passed a non-pointer object. (A workaround is using -O1 Torsten> or less when compiling). Torsten> Torsten Torsten> P.S.: sorry for continuing a discussion on xemacs-patches Torsten> ... No need to appologise, just don't do it, OK? xemacs-patches is for patches and followups to the patches. I was walking a tight line myself, following up to xemacs-patches. I wanted to indicate we should discuss this before commiting. Best regards, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 09:41:20 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13239; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:41:09 -0500 Received: from mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.172]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13174; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:40:28 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240]) by mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAMEeJu28947; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:40:20 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15357.4000.285995.718042@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:45:52 +1000 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6rc1 is now available by CVS In-Reply-To: <87g0775b4v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87g0775b4v.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull writes: hey Stephen cvs updated and installed on my FreeBSD-4.4 box :) > You now can get the release candidate with > > cvs -d:pserver:cvs@sunsite.dk:/pack/xemacscvs update -r r21-4-6rc1 > > (or equivalent), or by FTP in the usual tarballs or patchkit against > r21-4-5 in > > ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/ > > If you get unusual problems with the build or the binary on source > updated from CVS, you might want to try re-updating before complaining > to the list. > > Andy confirms that he will have the custom stuff in his next release > for Windows, coming soon. I still encourage Windows users to test > drive the custom stuff as soon as possible, of course. :-) > > My guess is that the problem is U of Tsukuba network issues. We are > taking immediate measures to make the mirror more robust to the > vagaries of my network admins (and more measured plans to move the > primary repository to somewhere better connected). > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 09:49:11 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13690; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:49:09 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13624 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:48:03 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166v8D-0003ob-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:47:13 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, Torsten Duwe Subject: [Various] Fixing evil replace-match Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 22 Nov 2001 23:47:13 +0900 Message-ID: <87r8qq50cu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 389 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= The following thread is being moved from xemacs-patches. Please keep Torsten in the CCs, until Michael checks in, Torsten is the expert. A few comments from the immoderator: 1. Please don't continue threads on xemacs-patches, even if others do. I'd like to put a 'bot in place, but until then we depend on your cooperation. 2. Please do use report-emacs-bug. It puts a lot of junk in, most of it is not relevant, but it's better to have junk most of the time than not have the information on the once a week or more occasion when it would be helpful. It's especially nice when professionals do it; then the average user will look and say, "oh, that's how the pros do it." 3. 21.4.6 is in prerelease. See the XEmacs-beta archives for the announcement. 4. I don't know about recent versions, but as of Win NT 3.51 it was possible to ask the OS to allocate a segment of 0xFFFFFFFF bytes, and it would give it to you, wrapping right around 0. People on the DJGPP list used to use this to implement fast graphics. I saw that and ran for Linux as fast as my legs would carry me. No, "NT" was not a typo. Never used that exploit myself, but it was confirmed by trustworthy observers. As for the bug itself, I've queried the person responsible for the patch implementing the submatch argument (which was introduced by the GNU Emacs project several years after we put something else there :( ). It's quite possible I screwed up the application somehow in an early release. Thanks to Torsten's analysis and patch it seems highly likely we should have a fix in time for 21.4.6. We may be able to catch some other bugs due to bogus dereferences, too. It seems pretty evil to move a dereference that might segfault before the test to determine whether it will segfault :-( Bad GCC, bad bad bad GCC! --=-=-= Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="==-=-=" --==-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Topics Topics: Fixing evil replace-match Re: Fixing evil replace-match Re: Fixing evil replace-match Re: Fixing evil replace-match --==-=-= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:45:39 +0100 From: Torsten Duwe To: xemacs-patches@xemacs.org Subject: Fixing evil replace-match Message-Id: <200111221145.fAMBjdJ13149@ns.caldera.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, building xemacs-21.4.5 with the sumo tarball 2001-09-29 I was very surprised that it suddenly began destroying my patches when I edit them. After a day of debugging I guess I've found the problem; the culprit is replace-match, which doesn't work as documented and is somehow overloaded (in a C++ sense), so that it eventually allows a lisp int to be passed to decode_buffer. The former causes the patches to be garbled, the latter even causing xemacs to crash with a segfault. So what I did was to first fix the segfault; using defensive programming I added a check for pointer type to decode_buffer, before gcc's CSE optimization reorders a dereference in front of the allow_string test. Secondly I added the missing sub-expression functionality (yes, "sub" is set and checked, but never used !), finding that a non-literal replace with a reference into the replaced text may still be broken. But I didn't dare to address this yet. Here are the test cases; save the following as something.patch, and start to edit within the first hunk: --------------8<---------------- --- file.old +++ file.new @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ ctx 1 ctx 2 ctx 3 -oldline +newline ctx 3 ctx 2 ctx 1 diff -u anotherfile.old anotherfile.new --- anotherfile.old +++ anotherfile.new @@ -1,1 +0,0 @@ -the only line deleted --------------8<---------------- Now for the worse case; execute the following -- I know it's an illegal use of replace-match, but it shouldn't crash xemacs: --------------8<---------------- (let ((mystring "@@ -10,17 +10,17 @@")) (string-match "@@ -[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) \\+[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) @@$" mystring) (replace-match "23" t t mystring 1) ) --------------8<---------------- Now for the fix patch. As I said, the first one fixes the crash, the second implements the subexpr functionality mentioned in replace-match'es documentation almost completely, describing what's left to do. --------------8<---------------- --- xemacs-21.5.3/src/buffer.c~ Mon Aug 13 06:46:09 2001 +++ xemacs-21.5.3/src/buffer.c Wed Nov 21 17:38:03 2001 @@ -354,7 +356,7 @@ get_buffer (Lisp_Object name, int error_ struct buffer * decode_buffer (Lisp_Object buffer, int allow_string) { - if (NILP (buffer)) + if (NILP (buffer) || (!POINTER_TYPE_P( XTYPE(buffer)))) return current_buffer; if (allow_string && STRINGP (buffer)) --- xemacs-21.4.5/src/search.c~ Wed Jul 25 09:45:36 2001 +++ xemacs-21.4.5/src/search.c Thu Nov 22 11:53:46 2001 @@ -2269,7 +2269,7 @@ Lisp_Object buffer; int_dynarr *ul_action_dynarr = 0; int_dynarr *ul_pos_dynarr = 0; - int sub; + int sub = 0; int speccount; CHECK_STRING (replacement); @@ -2290,9 +2290,7 @@ } else { - if (NILP (strbuffer)) - sub = 0; - else + if (!NILP (strbuffer)) { CHECK_INT (strbuffer); sub = XINT (strbuffer); @@ -2334,7 +2332,7 @@ { /* Decide how to casify by examining the matched text. */ - last = search_regs.end[0]; + last = search_regs.end[sub]; prevc = '\n'; case_action = all_caps; @@ -2345,7 +2343,7 @@ some_nonuppercase_initial = 0; some_uppercase = 0; - for (pos = search_regs.start[0]; pos < last; pos++) + for (pos = search_regs.start[sub]; pos < last; pos++) { if (NILP (string)) c = BUF_FETCH_CHAR (buf, pos); @@ -2561,8 +2559,8 @@ return concat3 (before, replacement, after); } - mc_count = begin_multiple_change (buf, search_regs.start[0], - search_regs.end[0]); + mc_count = begin_multiple_change (buf, search_regs.start[sub], + search_regs.end[sub]); /* begin_multiple_change() records an unwind-protect, so we need to record this value now. */ @@ -2572,7 +2570,7 @@ delete the original text. This means that markers at the beginning or end of the original will float to the corresponding position in the replacement. */ - BUF_SET_PT (buf, search_regs.start[0]); + BUF_SET_PT (buf, search_regs.start[sub]); if (!NILP (literal)) Finsert (1, &replacement); else @@ -2583,11 +2581,19 @@ GCPRO1 (replacement); for (strpos = 0; strpos < stlen; strpos++) { - Charcount offset = BUF_PT (buf) - search_regs.start[0]; + /* on the first iteration assert(offset==0), + exactly complementing BUF_SET_PT() above. + During the loop, it keeps track of the amount inserted. + */ + Charcount offset = BUF_PT (buf) - search_regs.start[sub]; c = string_char (XSTRING (replacement), strpos); if (c == '\\' && strpos < stlen - 1) { + /* XXX FIXME: replacing just a substring non-literally + using backslash refs to the match can produce + garbled output. Rewrite this if() ! + */ c = string_char (XSTRING (replacement), ++strpos); if (c == '&') Finsert_buffer_substring @@ -2630,9 +2636,9 @@ UNGCPRO; } - inslen = BUF_PT (buf) - (search_regs.start[0]); - buffer_delete_range (buf, search_regs.start[0] + inslen, search_regs.end[0] + - inslen, 0); + inslen = BUF_PT (buf) - (search_regs.start[sub]); + buffer_delete_range (buf, search_regs.start[sub] + inslen, + search_regs.end[sub] + inslen, 0); if (case_action == all_caps) Fupcase_region (make_int (BUF_PT (buf) - inslen), --------------8<---------------- Hope I've gotten it right somehow, Torsten --==-=-= Date: 22 Nov 2001 13:13:09 +0100 From: Adrian Aichner To: Torsten.Duwe@caldera.de Cc: xemacs-patches@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Fixing evil replace-match Message-ID: References: <200111221145.fAMBjdJ13149@ns.caldera.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>>> "Torsten" == Torsten Duwe writes: Torsten> Now for the worse case; execute the following -- I know Torsten> it's an illegal use of replace-match, but it shouldn't Torsten> crash xemacs: Torsten> --------------8<---------------- Torsten> (let ((mystring "@@ -10,17 +10,17 @@")) Torsten> (string-match "@@ -[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) \\+[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) @@$" mystring) Torsten> (replace-match "23" t t mystring 1) Torsten> ) Torsten> --------------8<---------------- Above does not crash my (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.4 (patch 6) \"Common Lisp (candidate 1)\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Thu Nov 22 2001 on D5DC120J" I get this instead: Signaling: (wrong-type-argument bufferp 1) replace-match("23" t t "@@ -10,17 +10,17 @@" 1) (let ((mystring "@@ -10,17 +10,17 @@")) (string-match "@@ -[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) \\+[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) @@$" mystring) (replace-match "23" t t mystring 1)) eval((let ((mystring "@@ -10,17 +10,17 @@")) (string-match "@@ -[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) \\+[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) @@$" mystring) (replace-match "23" t t mystring 1))) eval-interactive((let ((mystring "@@ -10,17 +10,17 @@")) (string-match "@@ -[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) \\+[0-9]+,\\([0-9]*\\) @@$" mystring) (replace-match "23" t t mystring 1))) eval-last-sexp(nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp) Please use M-x report-emacs-bug to provide more information about your XEmacs installation. Best regards, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ --==-=-= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:39:04 +0100 (CET) From: Torsten Duwe To: Adrian Aichner Cc: Torsten.Duwe@caldera.de, xemacs-patches@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Fixing evil replace-match Message-ID: <15356.61928.768420.120128@ns.caldera.de> References: <200111221145.fAMBjdJ13149@ns.caldera.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Adrian> Above does not crash my (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.4 (patch 6) Adrian> \"Common Lisp (candidate 1)\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Thu Nov Adrian> 22 2001 on D5DC120J" Hmm, http://www.xemacs.org says: [...] Current Releases Stable branch: 21.1.14 Gamma branch: 21.4.5 Beta branch: 21.5.3 [...] and anonftp agrees with this :-( Adrian> I get this instead: Adrian> Signaling: (wrong-type-argument bufferp 1) ... Yes, it probably depends on lisp-{,dis}union and compiler optimizations. Maybe your (CVS ?) version also has additional checks. Did you use cygwin or some "other" compiler ? Anyway, one of the many versions affected is XEmacs 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" [Lucid] (i386-Caldera-linux, Mule) of Thu Oct 25 2001 on proliant.caldera.de I strongly doubt M-x emacs-bug adds more relevant info, but I can tell you this: "gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)"'s assembler output for decode_buffer at -O3 on an i386-linux-elf shows that it has re-ordered the lisp object deref in front of the allow_string-test for speed purposes. This crashes on said platform if decode_buffer is ever passed a non-pointer object. (A workaround is using -O1 or less when compiling). Torsten P.S.: sorry for continuing a discussion on xemacs-patches ... --==-=-= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:55:29 +0100 (CET) From: Torsten Duwe To: xemacs-patches@xemacs.org Cc: Adrian Aichner , Torsten.Duwe@caldera.de Subject: Re: Fixing evil replace-match Message-ID: <15356.62913.879192.301383@ns.caldera.de> References: <200111221145.fAMBjdJ13149@ns.caldera.de> <15356.61928.768420.120128@ns.caldera.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii dear moderator (whoever is on duty ;-) Adrian> Above does not crash my (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.4 (patch 6) Adrian> \"Common Lisp (candidate 1)\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Thu Nov Adrian> 22 2001 on D5DC120J" Me> Yes, it probably depends on lisp-{,dis}union and compiler Me> optimizations. Maybe your (CVS ?) version also has additional Me> checks. Did you use cygwin or some "other" compiler ? Talking with my colleagues about this we've found out that some wannabe-OSes allow zero-pointer dereferences. This should explain the discrepancies Adrian and I have seen; maybe you add a note to my original post. Adrian, thanks for pointing out the differences under Windoze, I guess that simply a byte at address 0x00000003 is read there, but then not used. Torsten --==-=-=-- --=-=-= -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 11:34:33 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17888; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:34:13 -0500 Received: from inet-mail4.oracle.com (inet-mail4.oracle.com [148.87.2.204]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17817; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:33:00 -0500 Received: from rgmgw5.us.oracle.com (rgmgw5.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.14]) by inet-mail4.oracle.com (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id fAMGO9A15159; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:24:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from vzell.de.oracle.com ([140.84.89.60]) by rgmgw5.us.oracle.com (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id fAMGWfo20328; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:32:44 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: 21.4 (patch 5) "Civil Service" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 10 I) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available References: <877ksjd0ze.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Face: I-*}xvwusAv%MlABo'jVNP7TDXf5bb*L[q,r{DnsR1GoL07^Wf)sAu%>!LjXAFlZZN+`OQu }?#du]C)[*%ERKR#+l#sX'EoNbSO~|.x@ogoS5|"-u? Date: 22 Nov 2001 17:33:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877ksjd0ze.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: Stephen> ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/xemacs-21.4/pretest Builds and runs fine on my cygwin system. Stephen> Brief summary of Changes to 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" Stephen> - Fix incorrect ctime to Lisp conversion. Stephen> - HP-UX LDFLAGS fix. Stephen> - Many typo fixes and small documentation enhancements. Stephen> - New section of examples of glyph usage in Lispref. Stephen> - Make `truncate-partial-width-windows' effect buffer-local. Stephen> - Suppress bogus focus changes. Stephen> - Fix custom's handling of font size and family. Stephen> - Fix comboreloc crash (common on Linux when making first frame). Stephen> - Default --with-ipv6-cname=no. Stephen> - From 21.4.5 "Civil Service (Windows)": Stephen> - Fixed a scrollbar problem when selecting the frame with focus. Stephen> - Fixed `mswindows-shell-execute' under cygwin. Stephen> - Added a new function `mswindows-cygwin-to-win32-path' for JDE. Stephen> - Added support for dialog-based directory selection. Stephen> - The installer version has been updated to the 21.5 netinstaller. The Stephen> 21.5 installer now does proper dde file association and adds uninstall Stephen> capability. Stephen> - Handle leak fix from Mike Alexander. Stephen> - New release build script. But there ist still this nasty bug, that when browse-url-browser-function is set to the default windows browser, when clicking on a url the resulting urlcall in netscape is malformed. Ciao Volker From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 11:45:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18614; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:45:08 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18562 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:44:09 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166wwI-0003uO-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:43:02 +0900 To: "Dr. Volker Zell" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available References: <877ksjd0ze.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 23 Nov 2001 01:43:02 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <871yiq4uzt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Volker" == Volker Zell writes: Stephen> ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/xemacs-21.4/pretest Volker> Builds and runs fine on my cygwin system. Great! Volker> But there ist still this nasty bug, that when Volker> browse-url-browser-function is set to the default windows Volker> browser, when clicking on a url the resulting urlcall in Volker> netscape is malformed. Not a 21.4 problem, it's in the packages. :-) (Yeah, Yeah, I know. But give me a break, my time is finite. Steve Youngs will be back online in a few days, I hope, and a lot of package issues will get attention then.) Unless it's a quoting problem somehow? I suppose you've posted an example of the malformed URL? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 12:03:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19854; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:03:07 -0500 Received: from dolk.extundo.com (dolk.extundo.com [195.42.214.242]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19765; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:02:04 -0500 Received: from dhcp128.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAMH29mb008885; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:02:09 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4 APPROVE COMMIT] handle negative ctimes reasonably in encode-time References: <87snb8cwwp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bshvbhf3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: <87bshvbhf3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "22 Nov 2001 12:42:08 +0900") Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:01:37 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Simon> If I want to test these XEmacs 21.4 fixes, which CVS tag > Simon> should I use? "release-21-4" doesn't seem to do it (no > Simon> changes since 21.4.5), neither does cnadidate-21-4. That > Simon> is, I want the latest stable branch. > > Hm. candidate-21-4 works for me. release-21-4 will not pick up any > changes until there's a public release, of course. > > The SunSITE mirror repository lags and currently seems to be corrupt, > as well. But you said before you'd stick to tanko. [Sorry, the > primary repository is only available to committers, my firewall and > bandwidth issues make anoncvs difficult.] Try again? > > Also try -r r21-4-6rc1. I was using sunsite, obviously before it had received the changes. I wish there was only one CVS server.. Btw, I can confirm that negative times works fine in XEmacs 21.4.6rc1. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 12:09:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20132; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:09:06 -0500 Received: from dolk.extundo.com (dolk.extundo.com [195.42.214.242]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20113 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:08:52 -0500 Received: from dhcp128.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAMH8kmb008917; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:08:46 +0100 To: "Dr. Volker Zell" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available References: <877ksjd0ze.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: ("Dr. Volker Zell"'s message of "22 Nov 2001 17:33:59 +0100") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:08:14 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Dr. Volker Zell" writes: > But there ist still this nasty bug, that when > browse-url-browser-function is set to the default windows browser, > when clicking on a url the resulting urlcall in netscape is > malformed. Doesn't it happen when MSIE is used? Can you give an example? Maybe you could find out what is required to make it work, I think browse-url.el uses "open " as a command, passed to CMD.EXE. I'm afraid I don't have access to a Windows machine so it is a little hard to debug for me. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 12:19:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20683; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:19:08 -0500 Received: from femail33.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail33.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.23]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20626; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:18:09 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail33.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011122171803.PVGO27758.femail33.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:18:03 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Dr. Volker Zell" Cc: Subject: RE: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:18:08 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01c17379$a77ae250$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <871yiq4uzt.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This should be fixed in the windows branch. andy > -----Original Message----- > From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org > [mailto:xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 8:43 AM > To: Dr. Volker Zell > Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available > > > >>>>> "Volker" == Volker Zell writes: > > Stephen> ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/xemacs-21.4/pretest > > Volker> Builds and runs fine on my cygwin system. > > Great! > > Volker> But there ist still this nasty bug, that when > Volker> browse-url-browser-function is set to the default windows > Volker> browser, when clicking on a url the resulting urlcall in > Volker> netscape is malformed. > > Not a 21.4 problem, it's in the packages. :-) (Yeah, Yeah, I know. > But give me a break, my time is finite. Steve Youngs will be back > online in a few days, I hope, and a lot of package issues will get > attention then.) > > Unless it's a quoting problem somehow? > > I suppose you've posted an example of the malformed URL? > > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences > http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba > 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 12:52:40 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23151; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:52:16 -0500 Received: from zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com (zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com [47.129.242.157]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23121 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:51:49 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com [47.165.25.40]) by zcars0m9.nortelnetworks.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAMHnuS01472 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAMHoYS14702 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:50:34 GMT Received: from znsgy0k8.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:50:11 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by znsgy0k8.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XDZSY4MG; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:49:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XGRJB6R0; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:49:10 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 166xz8-0001ll-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:50:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15357.15050.113387.566711@europe.nortel.com> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:50:02 +0100 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: mail-lib patch In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Simon Josefsson writes: > I wanted to be a good guy and report that, with all the details, that > XEmacs 21.4.6rc1 (and earlier versions) print the following when I > exit it (even with xemacs -q -no-init-file): > > Warning: XtRemoveGrab asked to remove a widget not on the list This is because of Lesstif, if I remember correctly. Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 14:34:47 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA27934; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:34:18 -0500 Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (mail3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA27912 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:33:48 -0500 Received: from modem-1127.caterpie.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.61.103] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 166zbE-0007kW-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:33:28 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 166zfd-0002xv-00 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:38:01 +0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: gtk-faces not fixed in 21.4.6rc1 From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.4.6 (GTK) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 22 Nov 2001 19:38:00 +0000 Message-ID: <876682egvb.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 734 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! When XEmacs 21.4.6rc1 is built on my system --with-gtk then default faces are setup correctly to GTK values, but when they are changed with a subsequent M-x customize-face or custom-set-faces form the change has no visible effect. If the set-face-background forms within gtk-init-device-faces aren't passed the gtk device as the optional locale argument (see patch) then everything is hunkydory and subsequent customization of the default faces *do* have a visible effect. I don't understand why. But I think faces *must* be customizable! I'll send this to xemacs-patch in due course, comments welcome. --- lisp/gtk-faces.el.orig Mon Nov 19 18:11:12 2001 +++ lisp/gtk-faces.el Mon Nov 19 21:37:58 2001 @@ -48,10 +48,11 @@ ;; ;; If the "default" face didn't have a font specified, try to pick one. ;; + ;; Removed device locales - a naive attempt to keep Custom happy. (if (not (eq (device-type device) 'gtk)) nil (gtk-init-pointers) - '(let* ((style (gtk-style-info device)) + (let* ((style (gtk-style-info device)) ;;(normal 0) ; GTK_STATE_NORMAL ;;(active 1) ; GTK_STATE_ACTIVE (prelight 2) ; GTK_STATE_PRELIGHT @@ -59,18 +60,18 @@ ;;(insensitive 4) ; GTK_STATE_INSENSITIVE ) (set-face-foreground 'highlight - (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text)) - device) + (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text))) + ;device) (set-face-background 'highlight - (nth prelight (plist-get style 'background)) - device) + (nth prelight (plist-get style 'background))) + ;device) (set-face-foreground 'zmacs-region - (nth selected (plist-get style 'text)) - device) + (nth selected (plist-get style 'text))) + ;device) (set-face-background 'zmacs-region - (nth selected (plist-get style 'background)) - device)) - (set-face-background 'text-cursor "red3" device))) + (nth selected (plist-get style 'background)))) + ;device)) + (set-face-background 'text-cursor "red3"))) ;;; This is called from `init-frame-faces', which is called from ;;; init_frame_faces() which is called from Fmake_frame(), to perform ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux bundalo 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-gtk' '--mail-locking=flock' '--with-png' '--prefix=/usr' '--with-widgets=no' '--with-file-coding' '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /build-emacs/xemacs-21.4.5 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Using GTK menubars. Using GTK scrollbars. Using GTK dialog boxes. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for file coding. Mail: Compiling in support for "flock" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. 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Paren mode is blink-paren PGP version set to GPG. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 14:38:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28112; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:38:06 -0500 Received: from femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.144]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28061 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:37:41 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011122193740.UXAK878.femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:37:40 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Simon Josefsson" , "Dr. Volker Zell" Cc: Subject: RE: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:37:45 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01c1738d$288ff2f0$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Its already fixed. It just needs someone to repackage browse-url andy > -----Original Message----- > From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org > [mailto:xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Simon Josefsson > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 9:08 AM > To: Dr. Volker Zell > Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available > > > "Dr. Volker Zell" writes: > > > But there ist still this nasty bug, that when > > browse-url-browser-function is set to the default windows browser, > > when clicking on a url the resulting urlcall in netscape is > > malformed. > > Doesn't it happen when MSIE is used? Can you give an example? Maybe > you could find out what is required to make it work, I think > browse-url.el uses "open " as a command, passed to CMD.EXE. I'm > afraid I don't have access to a Windows machine so it is a little hard > to debug for me. > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 15:45:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA30989; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:45:11 -0500 Received: from dolk.extundo.com (dolk.extundo.com [195.42.214.242]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA30959 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:44:51 -0500 Received: from dhcp128.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAMKismb009834; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:44:55 +0100 To: Robert Pluim Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: mail-lib patch References: <15357.15050.113387.566711@europe.nortel.com> From: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: <15357.15050.113387.566711@europe.nortel.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:50:02 +0100") Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:44:21 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Robert Pluim writes: > Simon Josefsson writes: > > I wanted to be a good guy and report that, with all the details, that > > XEmacs 21.4.6rc1 (and earlier versions) print the following when I > > exit it (even with xemacs -q -no-init-file): > > > > Warning: XtRemoveGrab asked to remove a widget not on the list > > This is because of Lesstif, if I remember correctly. FWIW, I don't get it with Emacs 21.1 using Lesstif. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 17:50:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04034; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:50:07 -0500 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.de (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA03939 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:49:02 -0500 Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1672eN-0007ui-0F; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:48:55 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.8.223]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1672eM-0biArIC; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:48:54 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Questions about history of man/texinfo.texi X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Lines: 25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Dear All! Hacking on texi2html I found texinfo.texi to be badly structured wrt. its @node structuring. texinfo.texi seems to be unique to XEmacs? I have not found it in GNU Emacs at http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/emacs/emacs/man/ CVS suggest Steve L. Baur and Martin Buchholz have worked most on it, right? Are there any objections against me trying to get the document sections properly linked? Best regards, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 22 22:42:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA14956; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:40:34 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA14919; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:39:26 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1677AV-0004TP-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:38:23 +0900 To: Simon Josefsson Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4 APPROVE COMMIT] handle negative ctimes reasonably in encode-time References: <87snb8cwwp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bshvbhf3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 23 Nov 2001 12:38:23 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87snb62m34.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> I was using sunsite, obviously before it had received the Simon> changes. I wish there was only one CVS server.. Don't we all. We're negotiating security with SunSITE. Goals are similar, approaches differ. Plenty of goodwill, so it will happen, but these things take time. I think Adrian has upped the frequency of rsyncs to 1/hour, so the process should be more robust to network outage as well as more timely. Simon> Btw, I can confirm that negative times works fine in XEmacs Simon> 21.4.6rc1. Great! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 23 02:07:48 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA24189; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:07:13 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA24161; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:06:34 -0500 Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10769; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine.ecf.teradyne.com (engine.ecf.teradyne.com [131.101.192.6]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id CAA21474; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from D5DC120J.ecf.teradyne.com ([131.101.127.117]) by engine.ecf.teradyne.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA15102; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:01:27 +0100 (MET) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: Simon Josefsson , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [21.4 APPROVE COMMIT] handle negative ctimes reasonably in encode-time References: <87snb8cwwp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bshvbhf3.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87snb62m34.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Organization: The XEmacs Project Date: 23 Nov 2001 08:06:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87snb62m34.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: <4rnm7ypz.fsf@ecf.teradyne.com> Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> I was using sunsite, obviously before it had received the Simon> changes. I wish there was only one CVS server.. Stephen> Don't we all. We're negotiating security with SunSITE. Stephen> Goals are similar, approaches differ. Plenty of Stephen> goodwill, so it will happen, but these things take time. Stephen> I think Adrian has upped the frequency of rsyncs to Stephen> 1/hour, so the process should be more robust to network Stephen> outage as well as more timely. It's bi-hourly, starting at 0:15 CET. Mail of rsync STDERR goes to xemacs-admin@xemacs.org for now. Simon> Btw, I can confirm that negative times works fine in XEmacs Simon> 21.4.6rc1. Stephen> Great! -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 23 07:49:53 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA07299; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:49:15 -0500 Received: from inet-mail3.oracle.com (inet-mail3.oracle.com [148.87.2.203]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA07256; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:48:03 -0500 Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.10]) by inet-mail3.oracle.com (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id fANCfub11175; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from vzell.de.oracle.com ([140.84.89.60]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id fANClml24556; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:47:50 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: 21.4 (patch 5) "Civil Service" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 10 I) To: "Andy Piper" Cc: "Simon Josefsson" , "Dr. Volker Zell" , Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available References: <000b01c1738d$288ff2f0$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> X-Face: I-*}xvwusAv%MlABo'jVNP7TDXf5bb*L[q,r{DnsR1GoL07^Wf)sAu%>!LjXAFlZZN+`OQu }?#du]C)[*%ERKR#+l#sX'EoNbSO~|.x@ogoS5|"-u? Date: 23 Nov 2001 13:49:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <000b01c1738d$288ff2f0$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> Its already fixed. It just needs someone to repackage browse-url Andy> andy Okidoki I'll wait for Steve. Ciao Volker From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 23 13:16:41 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04827; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:16:06 -0500 Received: from mcclure.tinet.ie (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04804 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:15:42 -0500 Received: from p330.as1.athlone1.eircom.net ([159.134.205.74] helo=159.134.205.74) by mcclure.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 167Kqo-0005y0-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:14:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 741 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 18:56:08 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (HELO comp.cz) (vb@127.0.0.1) by softdnserror with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 18:56:08 -0000 Message-ID: <3BFE9BC7.D262F57F@comp.cz> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:56:07 +0000 From: Vaclav Barta X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Syntax highlighting turned off on startup, contd. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------42E2B2E092A0EEC78B12AD56" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------42E2B2E092A0EEC78B12AD56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, this is an update of my bug report from 7 Oct 2001. As I said in that message, when I start XEmacs, the files I open show in black until I do something in the Options|Syntax Highlighting menu. It's true not just for programming languages, but also for HTML (which I would expect), and I've just noticed a funny detail: the HTML coloring depends on whether I change syntax highlighting viewing an HTML buffer, or C++ buffer... 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Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:44:17 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "XEmacs NT List" Cc: "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:44:22 -0800 Message-ID: <000401c17470$64e912c0$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I have updated the installer downloads to 21.4.6-rc1. Please try them out and let me know of any problems in time for the real 21.4.6 release. The changes over and above vanilla 21.4.6rc1 are these: to XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)" - Fixed yet more problems with URL handling under cygwin. - Cancel on the directory dialog now works. - The directory toolbar icon now invokes the directory dialog. - Fixed problems with saving options under customize. - Made native registry entries match the installer. - toggle-buffer-file-coding-system now marks the buffer as modified. - Fixed mousewheel lockups. - Netinstaller updated to support kit revisions. It may take a while for the mirrors to catch up. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 24 12:55:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08022; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:53:57 -0500 Received: from femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07863; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:51:26 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011124175125.SRNN17928.femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:51:25 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Paul Stodghill" , "Xemacs-Nt@Xemacs.Org \(E-mail\)" , Cc: "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:51:30 -0800 Message-ID: <000101c17510$a590a090$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <706871B20764CD449DB0E8E3D81C4D4301FE449F@opus.cs.cornell.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > A couple of problems with the cygwin version, > > xemacs -vanilla, > - M-x customize-face default > Right-click on [State]. Select "Show all display specs" > -> Invalid function: "Show all display specs" I would guess that Jan's customize fixes are responsible for this. Stephen? > - M-x toggle-buffer-file-coding-system > Doesn't seem to change buffer-file-coding-system > Previously used to toggle how CR-LF was handled. > Wait, I just confirmed that this is not working under 21.4.5 as > well. I sometimes see the problem where it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. However, a simple test works for me. It may be that having non-binary mounts affects things. > Hmm. This could be a problem with my setup... > > xemacs, > - customization of Font Family of default face is not honored. I had > previously customized it to "Letter Gothic MT". Under 21.4.5, it is > displayed as "Letter Gothic MT". Under 21.4.6-rc1, it is displayed as > "Courier New". Ditto Jan's changes. I don't think this would be caused by my customize fix. Stephen? andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 24 13:46:20 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10797; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:46:08 -0500 Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10759; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:45:33 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011124184532.YNQI21607.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:45:32 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Ben Wing" Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Paul Krause" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: [VETO] Revert buffer patch Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:45:37 -0800 Message-ID: <000201c17518$34e65620$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3BF75A79.3738B917@666.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Thanks. I will work on this. andy > -----Original Message----- > From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org > [mailto:xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Ben Wing > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:52 PM > To: Andy Piper > Cc: Andy Piper; Stephen J. Turnbull; Paul Krause; XEmacs Beta List > Subject: Re: [VETO] Revert buffer patch > > > replace the regular revert-buffer function with this: > > 1. remember the file size when you revert. > 2. next time you revert, if the file size has changed, and the > new file size is > greater than some arbitrary value [e.g. 1 megabyte], do what we > regularly do. > otherwise: > 3. create a temporary buffer. > 4. disable change hooks in the buffer, e.g. bind them to nil. > 5. do all the regular revert-buffer stuff, up to but not including > after-revert-hook, but with the results going into the temp buffer. > 6. compare to the original. > 7. if no change, do nothing. otherwise, stop disabling the > change hooks, copy > the new buffer into the original, run the after-revert-hook. > 8. if you want to optimize further, instead of just copying > figure out how much > text at the beginning and end haven't changed, and only copy the > middle section > that has changed. this might require c support. > insert-file-contents already > has code to do this kind of checking. > > 1 + 2 are only there as an optimization. deleting those steps > won't make things > any less safe but might temporarily use a large amount of memory > in a situation > where the optimization of 3 - 8 is unlikely to succeed. > > Andy Piper wrote: > > > > > what are you trying to achieve? i explained how to optimize away > > > after-revert-hook and after-change-hook. this should eliminate > > > all slowness > > > you're complaining about. > > > > Ben, > > > > Please add some more words to your explanation so that it makes sense to > > lesser mortals like me. > > > > Thanks > > > > andy > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sat Nov 24 14:48:59 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14481; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:48:09 -0500 Received: from zion.rcn.com (209-6-124-185.c3-0.nwt-ubr1.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.124.185]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14448; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:47:41 -0500 Received: by zion.rcn.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id BE96A11989; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:49:53 -0500 (EST) To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [xemacsweb APPROVE COMMIT] jobs.html revision References: <878zdf85vq.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: 24 Nov 2001 14:49:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 85 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , (I can't think of any good reason to cpntinue this discussion on xemacs-review, so I've tried to include sufficient context and have moved over to xemacs-beta.) Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: > >>>>> "Vin" == Vin Shelton writes: > > Vin> Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: > >> >>>>> "Vin" == Vin Shelton writes: > >> > Vin> Miscellaneous gripe: > Vin> - The restricted search feature of the mailing lists is quite > Vin> finicky. When I search for 'syntax table' restricting matching > Vin> files to July 2001, the search works. But if I restrict matching > Vin> files to July - Nov 2001, I get 0 matches. This wonkiness makes > Vin> the restricted searching nearly useless. > >> > >> Hi Vin, > >> > >> here's what I found: > >> > >> Querying up to 4 months works. This may be some sort of buffer > >> overflow problem. > >> > >> All I can suggest for now is to restrict searching to 4 months at a > >> time. > >> > >> Alternatively (my preference) you can do an unrestricted search after > >> you up "Max. files returned" to 1000 (even set "Max. matches per file" > >> to 0 to get subject lines only). Does that help? > >> > >> I'll dig a bit deeper though. > >> > > Hi Vin! > > Vin> Thanks for checking this out. A warning on the webpage about > Vin> up to four months working is a good start, but I think we > Vin> really need to figure out how to make this rock solid. I > > Yes. > > Vin> also used the 1000 matches trick, but for some things that's > Vin> not enough, especially because the matches seem to get listed > Vin> from the oldest to the newest. > > Vin> What is the search engine we're using? > > It's wilma. > > I'm currently working on texi2html to get XEmacs HTML manuals online > under > http://www.xemacs.org > > I might look into the wilma problem some more. > > Do you have an example (URL) where the 1000 matches don't suffice? When I originally started to look for postings on xemacs-beta about Matt Tucker's syntax table changes, I used the query of 'syntax table' for every month of 2001. When that returned 0 matches, I expanded the query to 'syntax', searching all the xemacs-beta archives. IIRC, at that time the result did not return the 'syntax table' matches I was expecting from the year 2001, because the number of matches ran out. I just tried to repeat that experiment, and my results were quite different, however: Summary for query "syntax":Found 4005 matches in 855 files. This time I restricted the number of matches per file to 5 - it's most likely that on my first attempt I did not limit the number of matches per file. So I guess the answer is no, I do not have a verifiable test case. Still, in my own defense, I must say that the kind of problem I reported, where narrowing the search to a specified timeframe causes no matches to be detected is sufficiently exasperating to the average user that he/she will just give up. (I'm also not convinced that all searches will return reproducible results every time, but I do not currently have any data to back up this rather slanderous assertion. I may attempt to come up with a test script to verify the robustness of our search engine.) - vin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 25 12:03:39 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14877; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:03:13 -0500 Received: from petteflet.ntlworld.com (pc4-oxfo3-0-cust81.oxf.cable.ntl.com [213.105.158.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14633; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:01:58 -0500 Received: by petteflet.ntlworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF5D0A7A19; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:02:00 +0100 (CET) To: "Andy Piper" From: Jan Vroonhof Cc: "Paul Stodghill" , "Xemacs-Nt@Xemacs.Org (E-mail)" , , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available References: <000101c17510$a590a090$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Date: 25 Nov 2001 18:02:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <000101c17510$a590a090$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Message-ID: <87itbypywn.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Lines: 92 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.5 (anise) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Andy Piper" writes: > > - M-x customize-face default > > Right-click on [State]. Select "Show all display specs" > > -> Invalid function: "Show all display specs" > > I would guess that Jan's customize fixes are responsible for this. Stephen? Seems unlikely to me. > > xemacs, > > - customization of Font Family of default face is not honored. I had > > previously customized it to "Letter Gothic MT". Under 21.4.5, it is > > displayed as "Letter Gothic MT". Under 21.4.6-rc1, it is displayed as > > "Courier New". I don't have a windows build to reproduce this, however I can reproduce the problem with 'gtk build. In that case the problem is that customize is using font.el to do the conversion and that does not recognize 'gtk as a device type and silently fails. Applying this fix makes it work --- /local/xemacs/sunsite/xemacs-21.4/gtk/lisp/font.el~ Sun Nov 25 17:27:33 2001 +++ /local/xemacs/sunsite/xemacs-21.4/gtk/lisp/font.el Sun Nov 25 17:27:33 2001 @@ -99,6 +99,7 @@ (defconst font-window-system-mappings '((x . (x-font-create-name x-font-create-object)) + (gtk . (x-font-create-name x-font-create-object)) (ns . (ns-font-create-name ns-font-create-object)) (mswindows . (mswindows-font-create-name mswindows-font-create-object)) (pm . (x-font-create-name x-font-create-object)) ; Change? FIXME Could something similar be happening for Windows? If so, how did customize work before this? The cleanest way to solve this is to have make-face-size and make-face-family use a device type specific routine a long the lines of make-face-italic. That way the use of font.el can be dropped. I don't think "my patch" is really causing > When XEmacs 21.4.6rc1 is built on my system --with-gtk then default > faces are setup correctly to GTK values, but when they are changed with a > subsequent M-x customize-face or custom-set-faces form the change has no > visible effect. either! > If the set-face-background forms within gtk-init-device-faces aren't > passed the gtk device as the optional locale argument (see patch) then > everything is hunkydory and subsequent customization of the default > faces *do* have a visible effect. There is something else weird going on with the face frobbing. I am going to investigate. [time passes] I think the problem is entirely similar to the problem we had before with 'italic'. Customize might need to call frob-face-property as well. Until then, > + ;; Removed device locales - a naive attempt to keep Custom happy. This seems like a good idea for the moment. Gtk doesn't support multiple device anyway AFAIK. However, > (set-face-foreground 'highlight > - (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text)) > - device) > + (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text))) > + ;device) This not quite 100% right. It really should have been adding a '(gtk default) tag set from the beginning, i.e. make it (set-face-foreground 'highlight (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text)) nil '(gtk default)) etc Jan From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 25 12:21:42 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17591; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:21:41 -0500 Received: from femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.85]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17137; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:19:17 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011125171912.QRNC24213.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:19:12 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Jan Vroonhof" Cc: "Paul Stodghill" , "Xemacs-Nt@Xemacs.Org \(E-mail\)" , , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:19:16 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c175d5$4f5774e0$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <87itbypywn.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > "Andy Piper" writes: > > > > - M-x customize-face default > > > Right-click on [State]. Select "Show all display specs" > > > -> Invalid function: "Show all display specs" > > > > I would guess that Jan's customize fixes are responsible for > this. Stephen? > > Seems unlikely to me. Ah, but at least you replied :). Thanks for the analysis. andy > > > > xemacs, > > > - customization of Font Family of default face is not honored. I had > > > previously customized it to "Letter Gothic MT". Under 21.4.5, it is > > > displayed as "Letter Gothic MT". Under 21.4.6-rc1, it is displayed as > > > "Courier New". > > I don't have a windows build to reproduce this, however I can > reproduce the problem with 'gtk build. > > In that case the problem is that customize is using font.el to do the > conversion and that does not recognize 'gtk as a device type and > silently fails. > > Applying this fix makes it work > > --- /local/xemacs/sunsite/xemacs-21.4/gtk/lisp/font.el~ Sun > Nov 25 17:27:33 2001 > +++ /local/xemacs/sunsite/xemacs-21.4/gtk/lisp/font.el Sun > Nov 25 17:27:33 2001 > @@ -99,6 +99,7 @@ > > (defconst font-window-system-mappings > '((x . (x-font-create-name x-font-create-object)) > + (gtk . (x-font-create-name x-font-create-object)) > (ns . (ns-font-create-name ns-font-create-object)) > (mswindows . (mswindows-font-create-name > mswindows-font-create-object)) > (pm . (x-font-create-name x-font-create-object)) ; > Change? FIXME > > Could something similar be happening for Windows? > > If so, how did customize work before this? > > The cleanest way to solve this is to have make-face-size and > make-face-family use a device type specific routine a long the lines > of make-face-italic. That way the use of font.el can be dropped. > > I don't think "my patch" is really causing > > > When XEmacs 21.4.6rc1 is built on my system --with-gtk then default > > faces are setup correctly to GTK values, but when they are > changed with a > > subsequent M-x customize-face or custom-set-faces form the change has no > > visible effect. > > either! > > > If the set-face-background forms within gtk-init-device-faces aren't > > passed the gtk device as the optional locale argument (see patch) then > > everything is hunkydory and subsequent customization of the default > > faces *do* have a visible effect. > > There is something else weird going on with the face frobbing. I am > going to investigate. > > [time passes] > > I think the problem is entirely similar to the problem we had before > with 'italic'. > > Customize might need to call frob-face-property as well. > > Until then, > > > + ;; Removed device locales - a naive attempt to keep Custom happy. > > This seems like a good idea for the moment. Gtk doesn't support > multiple device anyway AFAIK. However, > > > (set-face-foreground 'highlight > > - (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text)) > > - device) > > + (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text))) > > + ;device) > > This not quite 100% right. It really should have been adding a '(gtk > default) tag set from the beginning, i.e. make it > > > (set-face-foreground 'highlight > (nth prelight (plist-get style 'text)) > nil '(gtk default)) > > etc > > Jan > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 25 13:12:59 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26290; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:11:15 -0500 Received: from excalibur.skynet.be (excalibur.skynet.be [195.238.3.135]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26034 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:09:58 -0500 Received: from DDWHOMEPC.acm.org (195-238-18-64.dialup.skynet.be [195.238.18.64]) by excalibur.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.16) with SMTP id fAPI9i915868 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:09:44 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) X-Mailer: emacs 20.7.1 (via feedmail 9-beta-8 Q) From: "Dominique de Waleffe" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <15359.25549.364000.856379@acm.org> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:09:33 +0100 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Windows2000 US-International Keyboard setting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id NAA26034 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! Using a qwerty keyboard, it is very handy, and popular among international users, to choose the windows keyboard settings US-International. In this setting, typing an accent followed by a 'accentable' letter gives the accented letter. In order to only have the accent, the sequence is accent, then space; typing the accent twice gives the accent 2 times. This works in all applications. In XEmacs, it only partly works. I can get an accented letter, the double accent. The BUG is that typying accent then space prints a space and leaves the accent active in the queue so that the sequence >' e< (quote-space-e) give in the buffer > é< (space-é) instead of >'e< (quote-e) as is the case for all other applications... While this does not crash, it makes XEmacs unusable for any practical work requiring mixed language work. Thanks for having a look into this for a future version. Dominique ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.5 \"Civil Service (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.5\". Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 25 15:53:33 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22976; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:53:03 -0500 Received: from mcclure.tinet.ie (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22953 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:52:58 -0500 Received: from p224.as1.athlone1.eircom.net ([159.134.204.224] helo=159.134.204.224) by mcclure.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 1686Ga-0001vt-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:52:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 23401 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2001 20:59:30 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (HELO linux.local.localdomain) (vb@127.0.0.1) by softdnserror with SMTP; 25 Nov 2001 20:59:30 -0000 From: Vaclav Barta To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Edit|Find dialog too small Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:52:45 +0000 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! When I select Edit|Find... from the menu, I get a Search dialog (just like in WordPad :-) ) - but the controls in xemacs are not just quite ugly (I'm no aesthete and can live with that), but the last line of them is only partially shown. The dialog can be resized but it doesn't help - only the original rectangle is redrawn... Bye Vasek P.S.: How do I attach an image to a bug report? ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.0 #3 Sun Jan 28 20:49:46 GMT 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/cvs.src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- nil Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .42 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (mule-base :version 1.39 :type regular) (leim :version 1.17 :type regular)) Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail tcl comint ring bookmark pp makefile regexp-opt compile env dired-faces dired-xemacs dired cperl-mode package-get package-admin config cus-edit cus-load font-lock cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles cc-langs cc-vars wid-edit cc-menus imenu cc-defs efs-cu cus-face overlay remem xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads semantic-autoloads psgml-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mew-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads igrep-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads efs-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads dired-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads mule-base-autoloads leim-autoloads src-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar esd-sound native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- button1up button1 button1up misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user button1 button1up button1 button1up up up up up up RET C-x C-s f7 button1 button1up misc-user prior prior prior prior prior up up up up up up up C-s P R O L button1 button1up button1 button1up misc-user C-x 1 C-home misc-user misc-user button1 button1up misc-user M-x r e p o r t - e m a TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading mail-abbrevs... 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Search failed: O_PASSAGEOVERFLOW_1 Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc Wrote /home/vb/core-locus/hdr/ohdr/ooutform.h Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc Wrote /home/vb/core-locus/hdr/ohdr/oweb.h Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/select.cc Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc Wrote /home/vb/core-locus/locus/grazer/mirror.cc From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 25 18:05:57 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA18513; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:05:04 -0500 Received: from femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.42]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA18427 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:04:33 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011125230431.WWZY17928.femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:04:31 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Vaclav Barta" , Subject: RE: Edit|Find dialog too small Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:04:35 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01c17605$8cf11b50$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, This is known. It looks better under Motif (or MS-Windows :). I will try and come up with a fix sometime soon. andy > -----Original Message----- > From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org > [mailto:xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org]On Behalf Of Vaclav Barta > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 12:53 PM > To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > Subject: Edit|Find dialog too small > > > This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, > not to your local site managers!! > Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have > translators to read other languages for them. > > > Please describe as succinctly as possible: > - What happened. > - What you thought should have happened. > - Precisely what you were doing at the time. > > Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. > ================================================================ > Dear Bug Team! > > When I select Edit|Find... from the menu, I get a Search dialog (just > like in WordPad :-) ) - but the controls in xemacs are not just quite > ugly (I'm no aesthete and can live with that), but the last line of > them is only partially shown. The dialog can be resized but it doesn't > help - only the original rectangle is redrawn... > > Bye > Vasek > > P.S.: How do I attach an image to a bug report? > > ================================================================ > > System Info to help track down your bug: > --------------------------------------- > > uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.0 #3 Sun Jan 28 20:49:46 GMT 2001 i686 unknown > > ./configure '--with-mule' > > > XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. > > > Compilation / Installation: > Source code location: /usr/local/cvs.src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 > Installation prefix: /usr/local > Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch > -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare > Relocating allocator for buffers: no > GNU version of malloc: yes > - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. > > Window System: > Compiling in support for the X window system: > - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include > - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib > - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. > Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: > - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw > - Athena library to link: Xaw > Using Lucid menubars. > Using Lucid scrollbars. > Using Athena dialog boxes. > Using Athena native widgets. > > TTY: > Compiling in support for ncurses. > Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). > > Images: > Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > Compiling in support for XPM images. > Compiling in support for PNG images. > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > > Sound: > Compiling in support for sound (native). > Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). > > Databases: > Compiling in support for Berkeley database. > Compiling in support for GNU DBM. > > Internationalization: > Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). > Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). > - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. > > Mail: > Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. > > Other Features: > Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. > Compiling in support for extra debugging code. > WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- > WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. > WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. > WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. > WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Load-Path Lisp Shadows: > ---------------------- > nil > > > Installed XEmacs Packages: > ------------------------- > > ((xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) > (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) > (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) > (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) > (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) > (prog-modes > :version > 1 > .42 > :type > single-file) > (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) > (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) > (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) > (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) > (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) > (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) > (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) > (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) > (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) > (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) > (mule-base :version 1.39 :type regular) > (leim :version 1.17 :type regular)) > > > Features: > -------- > > (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail tcl comint ring bookmark pp > makefile regexp-opt compile env dired-faces dired-xemacs dired > cperl-mode package-get package-admin config cus-edit cus-load > font-lock cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles cc-langs > cc-vars wid-edit cc-menus imenu cc-defs efs-cu cus-face overlay remem > xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads semantic-autoloads > psgml-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mew-autoloads > mail-lib-autoloads igrep-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads efs-autoloads > edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads dired-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads > mule-base-autoloads leim-autoloads src-autoloads loadhist auto-show > fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help > code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse > itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu > lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start > custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote > very-early-lisp file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer > lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar > esd-sound native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast > network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar > berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm > lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) > > > Recent keystrokes: > ----------------- > > button1up button1 button1up misc-user misc-user misc-user > misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user > misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user > misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user > misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user > misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user > misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user button1 > button1up button1 button1up up up up up up RET C-x > C-s f7 button1 button1up misc-user prior prior prior > prior prior up up up up up up up C-s P R O L button1 > button1up button1 button1up misc-user C-x 1 C-home > misc-user misc-user button1 button1up misc-user M-x > r e p o r t - e m a TAB RET > > > Recent messages (most recent first): > ----------------------------------- > > Loading mail-abbrevs... > Loading xemacsbug...done > Loading xemacsbug... > Search failed: O_PASSAGEOVERFLOW_1 > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc > Wrote /home/vb/core-locus/hdr/ohdr/ooutform.h > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/SelectOptions.cc > Wrote /home/vb/core-locus/hdr/ohdr/oweb.h > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/select.cc > Wrote /home/vb/extra-locus/select/src/StorageFront.cc > Wrote /home/vb/core-locus/locus/grazer/mirror.cc > > > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 25 18:57:57 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA26580; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:57:54 -0500 Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA26169; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:55:11 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011125235510.ZRTS29597.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:55:10 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Jan Vroonhof" Cc: "Paul Stodghill" , "Xemacs-Nt@Xemacs.Org \(E-mail\)" , , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:55:14 -0800 Message-ID: <000e01c1760c$a00ee3a0$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <87itbypywn.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > In that case the problem is that customize is using font.el to do the > conversion and that does not recognize 'gtk as a device type and > silently fails. > > Applying this fix makes it work Obviously this code is already present for mswindows and used to work so thats not it. > There is something else weird going on with the face frobbing. I am > going to investigate. This is all gtk code so it seems unlikely that this is the cause. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 25 21:53:39 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA19143; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:53:06 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA18956 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:52:02 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168BrQ-000700-00; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:51:08 +0900 To: Vaclav Barta Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Edit|Find dialog too small References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 26 Nov 2001 11:51:07 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87elmm1bz8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Vaclav" == Vaclav Barta writes: Vaclav> P.S.: How do I attach an image to a bug report? In .emacs, add (setq mail-user-agent 'vm-user-agent). Then use C-c C-a to attach a file. There are other mail-user-agents, in particular Gnus's message-mode is very popular. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Sun Nov 25 22:08:16 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA20930; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:08:14 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA20654; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:05:11 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168C4E-000726-00; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:04:22 +0900 To: Jan Vroonhof Cc: "Xemacs-Nt@Xemacs.Org (E-mail)" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available References: <000101c17510$a590a090$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87itbypywn.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 26 Nov 2001 12:04:22 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87itbypywn.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <87adxa1bd5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof writes: Jan> Applying this fix makes it work Jan> + (gtk . (x-font-create-name x-font-create-object)) Thanks, will be in rc2. Jan> If so, how did customize work before this? Do you really want to hear an answer to that? :-/ Jan> That way the use of font.el can be dropped. I know some people really don't like font.el, but having device- specific routines without a defined API spread out over a half-dozen files is not a very good solution either. We need some library like font.el, if only to specify the API. >> When XEmacs 21.4.6rc1 is built on my system --with-gtk then >> default faces are setup correctly to GTK values, but when they >> are changed with a subsequent M-x customize-face or >> custom-set-faces form the change has no visible effect. GTK support continues to be incomplete. AFAIK only Bill P understands it at all. Bugs in the GTK support simply can't be considered indicative of generic problems at this point. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. 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Internet Specialists From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 00:28:26 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01360; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:28:12 -0500 Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA01199 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:24:42 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO george) (207.124.141.238) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2001 05:24:41 -0000 From: "edward" To: "'Stephen J. Turnbull'" , "'Jan Vroonhof'" Cc: "'Xemacs-Nt@Xemacs.Org \(E-mail\)'" , "'XEmacs Beta List'" Subject: RE: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available (gtk patch) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:32:06 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c1763b$b0899840$017ba8c0@tailifer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3311 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <87adxa1bd5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Importance: Normal Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Customize works for me... I've had these patches for a while. Been meaning to upload them. Font.el is already patched now, I've noticed. Cheers. edward --- font-menu.el.orig Sun Nov 25 12:24:39 2001 +++ font-menu.el Sat Nov 24 23:39:57 2001 @@ -160,11 +160,13 @@ (defvar font-menu-preferred-resolution (make-specifier-and-init 'generic '((global ((mswindows) . ":") + ((gtk) . "*-*") ((x) . "*-*"))) t) "Preferred horizontal and vertical font menu resolution (e.g. \"75:75\").") (defvar font-menu-size-scaling (make-specifier-and-init 'integer '((global ((mswindows) . 1) + ((gtk) . 10) ((x) . 10))) t) "Scale factor used in defining font sizes.") @@ -285,7 +287,7 @@ (entry (aref font-data 0)) (family (aref font-data 1)) (size (aref font-data 2)) - ;;(weight (aref font-data 3)) + (weight (aref font-data 3)) s) (unless family (throw 'menu '(["Cannot parse current font" ding nil]))) @@ -316,7 +318,7 @@ (font-data (font-menu-font-data 'default dcache)) (entry (aref font-data 0)) (family (aref font-data 1)) - ;;(size (aref font-data 2)) + (size (aref font-data 2)) (weight (aref font-data 3)) w) (unless family @@ -377,7 +379,9 @@ (condition-case c (font-menu-change-face face from-family from-weight from-size - family weight size) + (or family from-family) + (or weight from-weight) + (or size from-size size)) (error (display-error c nil) (sit-for 1))))) @@ -392,7 +396,7 @@ ;; OK Let Customize do it. (custom-set-face-update-spec 'default (list (list 'type (device-type))) - (list :family family + (list :family (or family from-family) :size (concat (int-to-string (/ (or size from-size) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 06:22:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA20249; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 06:22:07 -0500 Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (smtpproxy1.mitre.org [129.83.20.90]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA20218 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 06:21:48 -0500 From: Ramsdell@mitre.org Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAQBLl813283 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 06:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAQBLls29475 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 06:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from COUCH (couch.mitre.org [129.83.1.72]) by linus.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18267 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 06:21:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 06:21:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111261121.GAA18267@linus.mitre.org> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Net Install Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! When I installed Xemacs this morning via setup.exe from www.xemacs.org, it placed the files in C:\Program Files\Xemacs\Xemacs-21.4.6, but created a link to C:\Program Files\Xemacs\Xemacs-21.4.6-rc1 on my desktop. Otherwise, the installation seems fine so far. I especially like eshell, so that I can have a reasonable shell on windows. Thanks. John ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.6 \"Common Lisp (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.6\". Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using minimal tagbits. Using indexed lrecord implementation. Using portable dumper. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- nil Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc :version 1.11 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.05 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) (viper :version 1.28 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.13 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.16 :type regular) (vc :version 1.28 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.29 :type regular) (time :version 1.11 :type regular) (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.32 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.18 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.21 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.13 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.11 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.12 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.23 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) (ps-print-nomule :version 1.05 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .42 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.55 :type regular) (pc :version 1.2 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.25 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) (misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.13 :type regular) (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.09 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) (jde :version 1.3 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.23 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.19 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.23 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.16 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.57 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.12 :type regular) (games :version 1.13 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (forms :version 1.13 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.13 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.34 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.01 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.08 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.01 :type regular) (eicq :version 1.05 :type regular) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.0 :type regular) (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.02 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-nomule-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows toolbar native-sound scrollbar network-streams subprocesses menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- misc-user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading mail-abbrevs... 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 12:39:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13414; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:38:55 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13136; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:35:25 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAQHZOV08861; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolfe.bea.com (wolfe.beasys.com [172.17.10.130]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00618; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:35:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011126093532.027a0f00@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:36:44 -0800 To: adrian@xemacs.org, Ramsdell@mitre.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Net Install In-Reply-To: <200111261121.GAA18267@linus.mitre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hey Adrian, This is because the setup.exe on the ftp site had some bugs fixes since you put up the one on www.xemacs.org. Is there any chance you could re-commit? Thanks andy At 06:21 AM 11/26/2001 -0500, Ramsdell@mitre.org wrote: >This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, > not to your local site managers!! >Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have >translators to read other languages for them. > > >Please describe as succinctly as possible: > - What happened. > - What you thought should have happened. > - Precisely what you were doing at the time. > >Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. >================================================================ >Dear Bug Team! > >When I installed Xemacs this morning via setup.exe from >www.xemacs.org, it placed the files in C:\Program >Files\Xemacs\Xemacs-21.4.6, but created a link to C:\Program >Files\Xemacs\Xemacs-21.4.6-rc1 on my desktop. Otherwise, the >installation seems fine so far. I especially like eshell, so that I >can have a reasonable shell on windows. Thanks. > >John > >================================================================ > >System Info to help track down your bug: >--------------------------------------- > >OS version: > >Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] >OS: Windows_NT > >XEmacs 21.4.6 \"Common Lisp (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. > > Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". > Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". > Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.6\". > Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program > Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". > Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. > Compiling in support for XPM images. > Compiling in support for GIF images. > Compiling in support for PNG images. > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. > Compiling in support for toolbars. > Compiling in support for dialogs. > Compiling in support for widgets. > Compiling in support for native sounds. > Compiling in fast dired implementation. > Using minimal tagbits. > Using indexed lrecord implementation. > Using portable dumper. > > >Load-Path Lisp Shadows: >---------------------- >nil > > >Installed XEmacs Packages: >------------------------- > >((zenirc :version 1.11 :type regular) > (xslt-process :version 1.05 :type regular) > (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) > (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) > (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) > (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) > (viper :version 1.28 :type regular) > (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) > (vhdl :version 1.13 :type regular) > (vc-cc :version 1.16 :type regular) > (vc :version 1.28 :type regular) > (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) > (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) > (tm :version 1.29 :type regular) > (time :version 1.11 :type regular) > (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) > (text-modes :version 1.32 :type single-file) > (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) > (supercite :version 1.18 :type regular) > (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) > (speedbar :version 1.21 :type regular) > (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) > (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) > (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) > (sh-script :version 1.13 :type regular) > (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) > (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) > (scheme :version 1.11 :type regular) > (rmail :version 1.12 :type regular) > (reftex :version 1.23 :type regular) > (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) > (ps-print-nomule :version 1.05 :type regular) > (prog-modes > :version > 1 > .42 > :type > single-file) > (pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular) > (pcl-cvs :version 1.55 :type regular) > (pc :version 1.2 :type single-file) > (os-utils :version 1.25 :type single-file) > (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) > (misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file) > (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) > (mh-e :version 1.13 :type regular) > (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) > (mailcrypt :version 2.09 :type regular) > (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) > (jde :version 1.3 :type regular) > (ispell :version 1.23 :type regular) > (ilisp :version 1.19 :type regular) > (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) > (idlwave :version 1.23 :type regular) > (hm--html-menus :version 1.16 :type regular) > (gnus :version 1.57 :type regular) > (gnats :version 1.12 :type regular) > (games :version 1.13 :type regular) > (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) > (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) > (forms :version 1.13 :type regular) > (footnote :version 1.13 :type regular) > (eudc :version 1.34 :type regular) > (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) > (eshell :version 1.01 :type regular) > (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) > (elib :version 1.08 :type single-file) > (eieio :version 1.01 :type regular) > (eicq :version 1.05 :type regular) > (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) > (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) > (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) > (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) > (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular) > (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) > (dictionary :version 1.0 :type regular) > (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) > (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) > (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) > (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) > (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) > (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) > (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) > (build :version 1.02 :type regular) > (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) > (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) > (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) > (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) > (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) > > >Features: >-------- > >(mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail zenirc-autoloads >xslt-process-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads >w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads >vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tpu-autoloads >tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads >text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads >strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads >sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads sh-script-autoloads >sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads >reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-nomule-autoloads >prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads >pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads >misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads >mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads >ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads >hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads >games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads >forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads >eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads >eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads >ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads >debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads >calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads >bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads >Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds >gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer >auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete >help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start >custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote >very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows toolbar >native-sound scrollbar network-streams subprocesses >menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg >xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices >window-system base64) > > >Recent keystrokes: >----------------- > >misc-user > > >Recent messages (most recent first): >----------------------------------- > 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 12:41:59 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13740; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:41:53 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12960; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:33:26 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAQHXPV08723; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:33:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolfe.bea.com (wolfe.beasys.com [172.17.10.130]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29881; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:33:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011126093422.026cfd30@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:34:45 -0800 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Jan Vroonhof From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Cc: "Xemacs-Nt@Xemacs.Org (E-mail)" , "XEmacs Beta List" In-Reply-To: <87adxa1bd5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87itbypywn.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> <000101c17510$a590a090$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87itbypywn.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 12:04 PM 11/26/2001 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >I know some people really don't like font.el, but having device- >specific routines without a defined API spread out over a half-dozen >files is not a very good solution either. We need some library like >font.el, if only to specify the API. Way back when, doing this properly in C was on the feature list for 21.4. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 14:19:56 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21671; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:19:13 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21642; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:18:44 -0500 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 168RH8-0005aP-05; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:18:42 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.0.121]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 168RH5-1SF47MC; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:18:39 +0100 To: Andy Piper Cc: adrian@xemacs.org, Ramsdell@mitre.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Net Install References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011126093532.027a0f00@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 50 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> Hey Adrian, Andy> This is because the setup.exe on the ftp site had some bugs fixes Andy> since you put up the one on www.xemacs.org. Is there any chance you Andy> could re-commit? Done! xemacs-beta, please report success or failure. Best regards, Adrian Andy> Thanks Andy> andy Andy> At 06:21 AM 11/26/2001 -0500, Ramsdell@mitre.org wrote: >> This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, >> not to your local site managers!! >> Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have >> translators to read other languages for them. >> >> >> Please describe as succinctly as possible: >> - What happened. >> - What you thought should have happened. >> - Precisely what you were doing at the time. >> >> Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. >> ================================================================ >> Dear Bug Team! >> >> When I installed Xemacs this morning via setup.exe from >> www.xemacs.org, it placed the files in C:\Program >> Files\Xemacs\Xemacs-21.4.6, but created a link to C:\Program >> Files\Xemacs\Xemacs-21.4.6-rc1 on my desktop. Otherwise, the >> installation seems fine so far. I especially like eshell, so that I >> can have a reasonable shell on windows. Thanks. >> >> John >> -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 14:52:16 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24116; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:52:08 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24044; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:50:58 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAQJouV17208; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolfe.bea.com (wolfe.beasys.com [172.17.10.130]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04922; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:50:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011126115207.026c0ab8@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:52:16 -0800 To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Net Install Cc: adrian@xemacs.org, Ramsdell@mitre.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011126093532.027a0f00@san-francisco.beasys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011126093532.027a0f00@san-francisco.beasys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 08:19 PM 11/26/2001 +0100, Adrian Aichner wrote: >Done! Thanks! andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 15:02:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA24852; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:02:02 -0500 Received: from brockman.tinet.ie (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA24813 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:01:23 -0500 Received: from p334.as1.athlone1.eircom.net ([159.134.205.78] helo=159.134.205.78) by brockman.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 168RwO-0000nV-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:01:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 1924 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2001 20:00:51 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (HELO linux.local.localdomain) (vb@127.0.0.1) by softdnserror with SMTP; 26 Nov 2001 20:00:51 -0000 From: Vaclav Barta To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Edit|Find dialog too small Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:01:21 +0000 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > Vaclav> P.S.: How do I attach an image to a bug report? > In .emacs, add (setq mail-user-agent 'vm-user-agent). Ee, that setting prevents me from sending bug reports: after being prompted for the bug subject, I get "Symbol's function definition is void: nil" (I'm sending this bug report after I've reverted my .xemacs-custom and restared xemacs). And I do have VM installed. Bye Vasek ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.0 #3 Sun Jan 28 20:49:46 GMT 2001 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-mule' XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/cvs.src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- nil Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .42 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (mule-base :version 1.39 :type regular) (leim :version 1.17 :type regular)) Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail cus-face overlay remem xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads semantic-autoloads psgml-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mew-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads igrep-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads efs-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads dired-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads mule-base-autoloads leim-autoloads src-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar esd-sound native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- M-x r e p o r t - e m a TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading mail-abbrevs... 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 15:18:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26195; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:18:02 -0500 Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26143; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:17:27 -0500 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 168SBr-0005jx-0A; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:17:19 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.0.121]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 168SBk-0Xh2Y4C; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:17:12 +0100 To: Vaclav Barta Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Edit|Find dialog too small References: X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 202 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Vaclav" == Vaclav Barta writes: Vaclav> This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, Vaclav> not to your local site managers!! Vaclav> Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have Vaclav> translators to read other languages for them. Vaclav> Please describe as succinctly as possible: Vaclav> - What happened. Vaclav> - What you thought should have happened. Vaclav> - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Vaclav> Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. Vaclav> ================================================================ Vaclav> "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: Vaclav> P.S.: How do I attach an image to a bug report? >> In .emacs, add (setq mail-user-agent 'vm-user-agent). Vaclav> Ee, that setting prevents me from sending bug reports: Vaclav> after being prompted for the bug subject, I get "Symbol's Vaclav> function definition is void: nil" (I'm sending this bug Vaclav> report after I've reverted my .xemacs-custom and restared Vaclav> xemacs). And I do have VM installed. Hi Vaclav, please perform XEmacs <= 21.1 Options->General Options->Debug On Error XEmacs >= 21.4 Options->Troubleshooting->Debug On Error When you try to send the bug report you'll get a **Backtrace** buffer. Please send us its contents. Hope this helps, Adrian Vaclav> Bye Vaclav> Vasek Vaclav> ================================================================ Vaclav> System Info to help track down your bug: Vaclav> --------------------------------------- Vaclav> uname -a: Linux linux 2.4.0 #3 Sun Jan 28 20:49:46 GMT 2001 i686 unknown Vaclav> ./configure '--with-mule' Vaclav> XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Vaclav> Compilation / Installation: Vaclav> Source code location: /usr/local/cvs.src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 Vaclav> Installation prefix: /usr/local Vaclav> Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Vaclav> Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Vaclav> Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Vaclav> Relocating allocator for buffers: no Vaclav> GNU version of malloc: yes Vaclav> - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Vaclav> Window System: Vaclav> Compiling in support for the X window system: Vaclav> - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11/include Vaclav> - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11/lib Vaclav> - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Vaclav> Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: Vaclav> - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw Vaclav> - Athena library to link: Xaw Vaclav> Using Lucid menubars. Vaclav> Using Lucid scrollbars. Vaclav> Using Athena dialog boxes. Vaclav> Using Athena native widgets. Vaclav> TTY: Vaclav> Compiling in support for ncurses. Vaclav> Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Vaclav> Images: Vaclav> Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Vaclav> Compiling in support for XPM images. Vaclav> Compiling in support for PNG images. Vaclav> Compiling in support for JPEG images. Vaclav> Compiling in support for TIFF images. Vaclav> Sound: Vaclav> Compiling in support for sound (native). Vaclav> Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Vaclav> Databases: Vaclav> Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Vaclav> Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Vaclav> Internationalization: Vaclav> Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Vaclav> Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). Vaclav> - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Vaclav> Mail: Vaclav> Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Vaclav> Other Features: Vaclav> Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Vaclav> Compiling in support for extra debugging code. Vaclav> WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Vaclav> WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. Vaclav> WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. Vaclav> WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. Vaclav> WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Vaclav> Load-Path Lisp Shadows: Vaclav> ---------------------- Vaclav> nil Vaclav> Installed XEmacs Packages: Vaclav> ------------------------- Vaclav> ((xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) Vaclav> (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) Vaclav> (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) Vaclav> (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) Vaclav> (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) Vaclav> (prog-modes Vaclav> :version Vaclav> 1 Vaclav> .42 Vaclav> :type Vaclav> single-file) Vaclav> (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) Vaclav> (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) Vaclav> (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) Vaclav> (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) Vaclav> (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) Vaclav> (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) Vaclav> (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) Vaclav> (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) Vaclav> (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) Vaclav> (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) Vaclav> (mule-base :version 1.39 :type regular) Vaclav> (leim :version 1.17 :type regular)) Vaclav> Features: Vaclav> -------- Vaclav> (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail cus-face overlay remem Vaclav> xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads semantic-autoloads Vaclav> psgml-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mew-autoloads Vaclav> mail-lib-autoloads igrep-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads efs-autoloads Vaclav> edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads dired-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads Vaclav> mule-base-autoloads leim-autoloads src-autoloads loadhist auto-show Vaclav> fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help Vaclav> code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse Vaclav> itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu Vaclav> lib-complete cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start Vaclav> custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote Vaclav> very-early-lisp file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer Vaclav> lucid-menubars athena-dialogs x c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar Vaclav> esd-sound native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast Vaclav> network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar Vaclav> berkeley-db dbm md5 xemacs xim gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm Vaclav> lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Vaclav> Recent keystrokes: Vaclav> ----------------- Vaclav> M-x r e p o r t - e m a TAB RET Vaclav> Recent messages (most recent first): Vaclav> ----------------------------------- Vaclav> Loading mail-abbrevs... 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Vaclav> Loading remem.el...done Vaclav> Loading remem.el... -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 15:31:47 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA27447; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:31:45 -0500 Received: from showboat.teradyne.com (showboat.teradyne.com [198.51.251.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA27114; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:28:05 -0500 From: vinnie_shelton@notes.teradyne.com Received: from chorus.teradyne.com (chorus.teradyne.com [131.101.1.195]) by showboat.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17580; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from jaypeak.corp.teradyne.com (jaypeak.corp.teradyne.com [131.101.17.23]) by chorus.teradyne.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA21150; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:28:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available To: "Andy Piper" Cc: "XEmacs NT List" , "XEmacs Beta List" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:24:46 -0500 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on JayPeak/Teradyne(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 11/26/2001 03:24:22 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Under Win2K, the following hunk of elisp works for me in a -vanilla XEmacs built from the 21.4.5 windows sources, but does not work for me against the latest 21.4.6 windows sources (according to the CVS tag windows-21-4): (custom-set-faces '(default ((t (:family "Andale Mono" :size 9 :bold nil :italic nil :background "wheat"))) t)) The background color changes, but the family remains Courier New and the font size remains 10 point. Thanks, vin "Andy Piper" @xemacs.org on 11/23/2001 05:44:22 PM Sent by: xemacs-winnt-admin@xemacs.org To: "XEmacs NT List" cc: "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available I have updated the installer downloads to 21.4.6-rc1. Please try them out and let me know of any problems in time for the real 21.4.6 release. The changes over and above vanilla 21.4.6rc1 are these: to XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)" - Fixed yet more problems with URL handling under cygwin. - Cancel on the directory dialog now works. - The directory toolbar icon now invokes the directory dialog. - Fixed problems with saving options under customize. - Made native registry entries match the installer. - toggle-buffer-file-coding-system now marks the buffer as modified. - Fixed mousewheel lockups. - Netinstaller updated to support kit revisions. It may take a while for the mirrors to catch up. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 16:00:15 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA30129; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:00:10 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA29854; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:57:14 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAQKvDV20737; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:57:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolfe.bea.com (wolfe.beasys.com [172.17.10.130]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20533; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:57:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011126125804.01bd2b68@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:58:33 -0800 To: vinnie_shelton@notes.teradyne.com From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Cc: "XEmacs NT List" , "XEmacs Beta List" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Ok, I'll take another look. Thanks andy At 03:24 PM 11/26/2001 -0500, vinnie_shelton@notes.teradyne.com wrote: >Under Win2K, the following hunk of elisp works for me in a -vanilla XEmacs >built from the 21.4.5 windows sources, but does not work for me against the >latest 21.4.6 windows sources (according to the CVS tag windows-21-4): > >(custom-set-faces > '(default ((t (:family "Andale Mono" > :size 9 > :bold nil > :italic nil > :background "wheat"))) t)) > >The background color changes, but the family remains Courier New and the >font size remains 10 point. > >Thanks, > vin > > > > > > > >"Andy Piper" @xemacs.org on 11/23/2001 05:44:22 PM > >Sent by: xemacs-winnt-admin@xemacs.org > > >To: "XEmacs NT List" >cc: "XEmacs Beta List" > >Subject: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available > > >I have updated the installer downloads to 21.4.6-rc1. Please try them out >and let me know of any problems in time for the real 21.4.6 release. The >changes over and above vanilla 21.4.6rc1 are these: > >to XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)" > > - Fixed yet more problems with URL handling under cygwin. > - Cancel on the directory dialog now works. > - The directory toolbar icon now invokes the directory dialog. > - Fixed problems with saving options under customize. > - Made native registry entries match the installer. > - toggle-buffer-file-coding-system now marks the buffer as modified. > - Fixed mousewheel lockups. > - Netinstaller updated to support kit revisions. > >It may take a while for the mirrors to catch up. > >andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 16:38:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01087; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:37:40 -0500 Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA00898 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:36:48 -0500 Received: from libero.it (151.29.196.133) by smtp3.libero.it (6.0.032) id 3BD43E2500AC0151 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:36:34 +0100 Message-ID: <3C02B606.8A1B3CE5@libero.it> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:37:10 +0100 From: Enrico Piria X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Solid cursor on exit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , When I exit from XEmacs 21.1.14 in character terminal mode (I use bash under Linux), I still continue to have the solid cursor used in XEmacs, and I always have to do a "reset" of the terminal to go back to the normal underscore cursor. I don't know if it' really a bug or an option, but I've tried to find an answer on comp.emacs.xemacs and I couldn't get any. Thank you Enrico From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 16:44:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01952; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:44:01 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01929; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:43:48 -0500 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 168TXU-0002xG-04; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:43:44 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.0.121]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 168TXO-09IubgC; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:43:38 +0100 Cc: XEmacs Beta List Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: Re: XEmacs version References: X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Posted-To: comp.emacs.xemacs X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs as well. >>>>> "Keith" == Keith Lancaster writes: Keith> I just installed what I thought would be the "Civil Keith> Service" release, but instead got "Common Lisp (Windows)", Keith> patch 6. What gives? Thanks of the heads-up, Keith! The netinstaller on the website has been updated to Release candidate 1 of 21.4.6: Common Lisp but the documentation has not been updated. Until now... I just did it thanks to your hint. Best regards, Adrian 21.4.4: Artificial Intelligence 21.4.5: Civil Service 21.4.6: Common Lisp Keith> Thanks, Keith> Keith -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 19:53:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15363; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:52:03 -0500 Received: from mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.177]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15313 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:51:38 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-190.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.190]) by mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAR0paF27995 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:51:36 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fAQMANeR009180; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:10:23 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: JDE package updated to 2.2.8 References: <000301c15500$44d3b290$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:10:23 +1000 In-Reply-To: <000301c15500$44d3b290$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> ("Andy Piper"'s message of "Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:33:38 -0700") Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "AP" == Andy Piper writes: AP> I have finally finished the sync, and hopefully it was worth it since I have AP> spent quite a while making sure everything works under Windows. I actually AP> discovered a few bugs in the cygwin version of XEmacs, which I will release AP> fixes to as soon as I branch 21.4 for windows. There is also a fix required AP> for browse-url under cygwin. AP> I don't know when a binary release will be available given Steve's current AP> computer problems. I'll get to it asap. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 19:57:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15861; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:57:37 -0500 Received: from mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.177]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15328 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:51:49 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-190.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.190]) by mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAR0pcF28010 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:51:38 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fAQM6w2X009175; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:06:58 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: @AUCDIR in load-path References: <200110111726.f9BHQRH26527@localhost.localdomain> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:06:58 +1000 In-Reply-To: <200110111726.f9BHQRH26527@localhost.localdomain> (Jim Radford's message of "Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:26:27 -0700") Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "JR" == Jim Radford writes: JR> After upgrading to auctex-1.25 @AUCDIR shows up in my load-path. JR> Thanks, I've seen this for ages (read years). Anyone like to tell me why? -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 19:56:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15645; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:56:11 -0500 Received: from mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.177]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15321 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:51:46 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-190.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.190]) by mail018.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAR0pfF28048 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:51:41 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fAQM632N009174; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:06:03 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: "Wrong type argument" with Update Package Index References: <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:06:03 +1000 In-Reply-To: <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) ('s message of "Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:22:33 -0700 (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com)") Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Sorry for the long delay, I've been "offline" for a couple of months. |--==> "s" == steele writes: s> Dear Bug Team! s> Choosing Tools>Packages>Update Package Index results in a minibuffer s> display of: "Wrong type argument: stringp, nil" How have you gotten on with this? I usually: Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> pick site Tools -> Packages -> List and Install The 'List and Install' updates the package index file. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 20:40:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA18588; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:40:04 -0500 Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA18520; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:39:03 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6DF5C7; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:38:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFC14F6; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:38:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id RAA06646; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:38:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111270138.RAA06646@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Steve Youngs Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: @AUCDIR in load-path Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:06:58 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:38:54 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs wrote: > |--==> "JR" == Jim Radford writes: > > JR> After upgrading to auctex-1.25 @AUCDIR shows up in my load-path. > JR> Thanks, > > I've seen this for ages (read years). Anyone like to tell me why? Probably because auctex wants to be installed using its installer (and not as an XEmacs package), and so the auctex/tex-site.el is never properly modified to contain a correct value for "TeX-lisp-directory", but instead has the value, "@AUCDIR" (which would normally be edited and changed during the auctex install process). [ Whew! ] -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 21:11:36 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA20886; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:11:11 -0500 Received: from zion.rcn.com (209-6-124-185.c3-0.nwt-ubr1.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.124.185]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA20855 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:10:41 -0500 Received: by zion.rcn.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0D62111989; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:12:48 -0500 (EST) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Making Packages From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: 26 Nov 2001 21:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Welcome back, Steve! In honor of your return, I attempted to build all the packages from the latest CVS sources for the first time in awhile. I noticed the following error: xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -l /opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/package-compile.el -- eterm xemacs-base -- mail-abbrevs.el Loading /usr/local/xemacs/lib/xemacs-21.4.5/lisp/auto-autoloads... Loading /opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/xemacs-packages/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads... Loading /opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/xemacs-packages/eterm/auto-autoloads... Compiling /opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/xemacs-packages/mail-lib/mail-abbrevs.el... >>Error occurred processing mail-abbrevs.el: Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size Done make[2]: *** [mail-abbrevs.elc] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/xemacs-packages/mail-lib' make[1]: *** [mail-lib/bindist.target] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/xemacs-packages' make: *** [xemacs-packages/bindist.target] Error 2 Does anyone have any clues on this? TIA, vin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 21:18:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21304; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:18:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21261 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:17:19 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168XnI-0004pH-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:16:20 +0900 To: Vaclav Barta Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Edit|Find dialog too small References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 27 Nov 2001 11:16:20 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87adx9x8jv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Vaclav" == Vaclav Barta writes: Vaclav> "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: Vaclav> P.S.: How do I attach an image to a bug report? >> In .emacs, add (setq mail-user-agent 'vm-user-agent). Vaclav> Ee, that setting prevents me from sending bug reports: Vaclav> after being prompted for the bug subject, I get "Symbol's Vaclav> function definition is void: nil" (I'm sending this bug Vaclav> report after I've reverted my .xemacs-custom and restared Vaclav> xemacs). And I do have VM installed. Sorry. I forgot there are some problems with initialization. Kyle is a real stickler for doing things right so he never added the init to mail-lib. I think you need to do (require 'vm) too. [(require 'vm-startup) is lighter-weight if you don't normally use VM, but I think our package version is the aggregated vm.elc version.] -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 21:20:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21476; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:20:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21374 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:19:27 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168XpY-0004pU-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:18:40 +0900 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: @AUCDIR in load-path References: <200110111726.f9BHQRH26527@localhost.localdomain> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 27 Nov 2001 11:18:40 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87667xx8fz.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: >> --==> "JR" == Jim Radford >> writes: JR> After upgrading to auctex-1.25 @AUCDIR shows up in my JR> load-path. Thanks, SY> I've seen this for ages (read years). Anyone like to tell me SY> why? It's a bug in the AUC-TeX package. Fix it in tex-site.el. I never got around to submitting a patch because I wanted something that would work upstream to. Sorry! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 21:22:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21640; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:22:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21594 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:21:30 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168XrX-0004pZ-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:20:43 +0900 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: "Wrong type argument" with Update Package Index References: <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 27 Nov 2001 11:20:43 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <871yilx8ck.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> How have you gotten on with this? I usually: SY> Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> pick site This is presumably what was missing, but the WTA signal is a bug in XEmacs. We should trap the nil and give a meaningful error message. Any reasonable patch will be accepted for 21.4. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 21:44:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA23362; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:44:30 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA23071; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:39:54 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168Y9I-0004q8-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:39:04 +0900 To: Andy Piper Cc: "Xemacs-Nt@Xemacs.Org (E-mail)" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available References: <87itbypywn.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> <000101c17510$a590a090$9e7ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87itbypywn.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011126093422.026cfd30@san-francisco.beasys.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 27 Nov 2001 11:39:04 +0900 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011126093422.026cfd30@san-francisco.beasys.com> Message-ID: <87wv0dvsxj.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> At 12:04 PM 11/26/2001 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> I know some people really don't like font.el, but having >> device- specific routines without a defined API spread out over >> a half-dozen files is not a very good solution either. We need >> some library like font.el, if only to specify the API. Andy> Way back when, doing this properly in C An OXYMORON. :-) C is a minimalist language for implementing minimal functionality. Andy> was on the feature list for 21.4. I don't recall that. It's not to be found in Releases/Public-21.2/ on the home page. Certainly none of Ben, Martin, or me would have been happy about that, on the general principle that things that can be done in Lisp should be done in Lisp. Nor is efficiency really an excuse here; font.el-style manipulations are only done at cus-face initialization and user request. Anyway, a lot of the efficiency issues could be mitigated by removing the Customize mirroring of the information already in the faces. Which also would be a big step toward making Customize work for the 2/3 of the world's people who don't live in ISO-8859-land. Not to mention this maintainer. :-) There's plenty of scope for bitflicking in redisplay. Let's get some of those bugs and inefficiencies fixed. Many remain. :-( All of the above is personal opinion, not Release Manager fiat, and subject to change as I learn more. Please don't LART me yet. ;-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 22:53:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA27298; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:52:33 -0500 Received: from chromium.edml ([210.54.139.121]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA27172 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:50:14 -0500 Received: (from timw@localhost) by chromium.edml (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAR3otP10925; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:50:55 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: chromium.edml: timw set sender to tim.wilson@mail.com using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Tim Wilson Original-Sender: Tim Wilson Subject: Lisp error attempting to install packages for 21.5.3 with GTK. Date: 27 Nov 2001 16:50:54 +1300 Message-ID: Lines: 104 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , To reproduce: 1. Build and install xemacs-21.5.3 9 (see Installation below). 2. Untar efs-1.26 and xemacs-base-1.55 according to installation HOW-TO. 3. Start xemacs -q -no-site-file 4. Menu Tools -> Packages -> Add download site -> xemacs.org. 5. Menu Options -> Troubleshooting -> Debug on error 6. Menu Tools -> Packages -> List and install 7. Emacs downloads something from xemacs.org, but when the progress counter reaches 100%... (see lisp debugger's backtrace below:) 8. I searched the list's archive and with Google for this error message, and didn't find anything. So how do other folks use 21.5.3 with GTK (or don't they)? I don't see how 21.5.3 is usable even for testing if I can't get as far as loading the packages. Tim timw at edml dot co dot nz Signaling: (error "Button descriptor is too small: [\"Yes\" (dialog-box-finish t)]") signal(error ("Button descriptor is too small: [\"Yes\" (dialog-box-finish t)]")) cerror("Button descriptor is too small: %S" ["Yes" (dialog-box-finish t)]) apply(cerror "Button descriptor is too small: %S" ["Yes" (dialog-box-finish t)]) error("Button descriptor is too small: %S" ["Yes" (dialog-box-finish t)]) # gtk-widget-show gtk-box-pack-end gtk-box-pack-start gtk-dialog-action-area nil dialog] 7>(["Yes" (dialog-box-finish t)]) mapc-internal(# gtk-widget-show gtk-box-pack-end gtk-box-pack-start gtk-dialog-action-area nil dialog] 7> (["Yes" (dialog-box-finish t)] ["No" (dialog-box-finish nil)] nil ["Cancel" (dialog-box-cancel)])) mapc(# gtk-widget-show gtk-box-pack-end gtk-box-pack-start gtk-dialog-action-area nil dialog] 7> (["Yes" (dialog-box-finish t)] ["No" (dialog-box-finish nil)] nil ["Cancel" (dialog-box-cancel)])) popup-builtin-question-dialog((:question "Update package index in ~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp? " :buttons (["Yes" ...] ["No" ...] nil ["Cancel" ...]))) gtk-make-dialog-box-internal(question (:question "Update package index in ~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp? " :buttons (["Yes" ...] ["No" ...] nil ["Cancel" ...]))) make-dialog-box-internal(question (:question "Update package index in ~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp? " :buttons (["Yes" ...] ["No" ...] nil ["Cancel" ...]))) eval((make-dialog-box-internal (quote question) (quote (:question "Update package index in ~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp? " :buttons ...)))) byte-code("..." [thunk frames id sym eval gensym lambda (did) when eq quote (did) mapc (quote enable-frame) (enqueue-eval-event (quote internal-make-dialog-box-exit) did) remove-hook (quote delete-dialog-box-hook) add-hook delete-dialog-box-hook disable-frame --cl-block-nil-- (byte-code " à !«•Ä !Åa«ŽÆ !a«‡ÇÈÉ\"ˆª„Ê !ˆ)ª\\" [id event next-event eval-event-p event-function internal-make-dialog-box-exit event-object throw --cl-block-nil-- ... dispatch-event] 3)] 11) dialog-box-modal-loop((make-dialog-box-internal (quote question) (quote (:question "Update package index in ~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp? " :buttons ...)))) make-dialog-box(question :question "Update package index in ~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp? " :modal t :buttons (["Yes" (dialog-box-finish t)] ["No" (dialog-box-finish nil)] nil ["Cancel" (dialog-box-cancel)])) yes-or-no-p-dialog-box("Update package index in ~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp? ") y-or-n-p("Update package index in ~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp? ") package-get-maybe-save-index("/anonymous@ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") package-get-update-base(nil t) package-get-require-base(t) # sort copy-sequence # documentation set-buffer-modified-p pop-to-buffer delete-other-windows featurep menubar set-buffer-menubar add-submenu clear-message pui-display-keymap major-mode mode-name truncate-lines pa! ckage-get-remote pui-list-verbose package-get-base pui-selected-packages pui-deleted-packages current-menubar mode-popup-menu] 6 ("/home/app/xemacs-21.5.3/lib/xemacs-21.5-b3/lisp/package-ui.elc" . 13421) nil>() call-interactively(pui-list-packages) [Installation] uname -a: Linux chromium.edml 2.4.9-12 #1 Tue Oct 30 18:16:30 EST 2001 i586 unknown ./configure '--prefix=/home/app/xemacs-21.5.3' '--with-gtk' '--with-gnome' '--with-pop' XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i586-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/app/src/xemacs-21.5.3 Installation prefix: /home/app/xemacs-21.5.3 Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Using GTK menubars. Using GTK scrollbars. Using GTK dialog boxes. Using GTK native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 23:07:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA28437; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:07:23 -0500 Received: from femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.108]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA28260 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:05:42 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011127040542.DGWD23187.femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:05:42 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Customize question Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:05:46 -0800 Message-ID: <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , So the mswindows problems with choice menus are caused by customize generating menu descriptors like so: ["first" ("first") t] Now accoridng to the popup-menu docs it seems this is obviously wrong - the function is a list and so will be evaled with 'eval - "first" isn't a function so we get failure. Shouldn't customize actually generate: ["first" '(eval "first") t]? Thanks andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Mon Nov 26 23:26:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29653; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:26:03 -0500 Received: from femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.128]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29382; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:22:14 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011127042212.YNKG13005.femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:22:12 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Andy Piper" Cc: "Xemacs-Nt@Xemacs.Org \(E-mail\)" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:22:10 -0800 Message-ID: <000c01c176fb$15394c30$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <87wv0dvsxj.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > Andy> was on the feature list for 21.4. > > I don't recall that. It's not to be found in Releases/Public-21.2/ on > the home page.> This is back when slb was maintainer. So the numbering was probably different also. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 00:03:51 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA32546; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:03:32 -0500 Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA31988; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:57:10 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011127045656.ZSAX230.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:56:56 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: , , Cc: "XEmacs NT List" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:56:50 -0800 Message-ID: <000e01c176ff$ece938d0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Of course it would help if I tried a font that was actually installed on my machine... > Under Win2K, the following hunk of elisp works for me in a -vanilla XEmacs > built from the 21.4.5 windows sources, but does not work for me > against the > latest 21.4.6 windows sources (according to the CVS tag windows-21-4): So weirder and weirder, this works for me when in a custom file but not with -vanilla.... and despite Jan's protestations reverting cus-face.el to the 21.4.5 version cures this, so it really *is* Jan/Stephen's patch and I assume they will do something about it this time. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 00:29:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01724; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:29:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01166; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:24:21 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168aiS-0005AC-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:23:32 +0900 To: "Andy Piper" Cc: , , , "XEmacs NT List" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available References: <000e01c176ff$ece938d0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 27 Nov 2001 14:23:32 +0900 In-Reply-To: <000e01c176ff$ece938d0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Message-ID: <87667wwzvv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> and despite Jan's protestations reverting cus-face.el to the Andy> 21.4.5 version cures this, so it really *is* Jan/Stephen's Andy> patch and I assume they will do something about it this Andy> time. Depends on if I can reproduce under Unix. If I can't, ain't no patches from me gonna happen soon. I know nothing about how Custom handles Windows fonts. If you don't need the functionality the patch provides, I'd suggest reverting the patch in the Windows branch. The Unix platforms most definitely do need the functionality. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 00:32:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02364; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:32:24 -0500 Received: from pedigree.cs.ubc.ca (pedigree.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.50]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01194 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:25:02 -0500 Received: from poirot.cs.ubc.ca (IDENT:root@poirot.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.14.182]) by pedigree.cs.ubc.ca (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAR5OiC13921; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from patrice@localhost) by poirot.cs.ubc.ca (8.11.6/8.9.3) id fAR5LGF04040; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:21:16 -0800 From: Patrice Belleville MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15363.8906.146160.891451@poirot.cs.ubc.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:21:14 -0800 To: Tim Wilson Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Lisp error attempting to install packages for 21.5.3 with GTK. In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On November 27, you write: > To reproduce: > <- snip! -> > 8. I searched the list's archive and with Google for this error > message, and didn't find anything. So how do other folks use > 21.5.3 with GTK (or don't they)? I don't see how 21.5.3 is usable > even for testing if I can't get as far as loading the packages. > > Tim > timw at edml dot co dot nz > > Signaling: (error "Button descriptor is too small: [\"Yes\" dialog-box-finish t)]") This is a bug in dialog.el. I don't think it's GTK specific, although GTK seems pickier about this than most. Procedure make-dialog-box is passed an array of buttons which, contrarily to what the documentation says, have two elements instead of three. The following patch fixes it for me. Regards, Patrice --- --- dialog.el~ Sun Jul 15 01:18:59 2001 +++ dialog.el Tue Sep 11 11:15:22 2001 @@ -46,10 +46,10 @@ (make-dialog-box 'question :question prompt :modal t - :buttons '(["Yes" (dialog-box-finish t)] - ["No" (dialog-box-finish nil)] + :buttons '(["Yes" (dialog-box-finish t) t] + ["No" (dialog-box-finish nil) t] nil - ["Cancel" (dialog-box-cancel)])))) + ["Cancel" (dialog-box-cancel) t])))) ;; FSF has a similar function `x-popup-dialog'. (defun get-dialog-box-response (position contents) -- **------------------------------------------------------------------------ ** Patrice Belleville (patrice@cs.ubc.ca) (604) 822-9870 ** Instructor and Departmental advisor, Department of Computer Science **------------------------------------------------------------------------ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 00:48:28 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA03580; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:48:26 -0500 Received: from femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.87]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA03302; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:44:30 -0500 Received: from TSUNAMI ([65.0.173.161]) by femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011127054429.BCYV15304.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@TSUNAMI>; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:44:29 -0800 From: "Andy Piper" To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: , , "XEmacs NT List" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: RE: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:44:34 -0800 Message-ID: <001201c17706$97c73ad0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <87667wwzvv.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > If you don't need the functionality the patch provides, I'd suggest > reverting the patch in the Windows branch. The Unix platforms most > definitely do need the functionality. Is the face family change necessary also? andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 02:49:35 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA09273; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 02:48:03 -0500 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.de (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA09242; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 02:47:20 -0500 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 168cxb-000579-03; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:47:19 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.14.148]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 168cxJ-1aDl6OC; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:47:01 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: "Wrong type argument" with Update Package Index References: <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> Sorry for the long delay, I've been "offline" for a couple of months. SY> |--==> "s" == steele writes: s> Dear Bug Team! s> Choosing Tools>Packages>Update Package Index results in a minibuffer s> display of: "Wrong type argument: stringp, nil" SY> How have you gotten on with this? I usually: Hi Steve, I have seen this, but it didn't seem reproducible and I didn't find the time to disagnose the problem. This problem seems to be recent (think weeks or months)? Best regards, Adrian SY> Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> pick site SY> Tools -> Packages -> List and Install SY> The 'List and Install' updates the package index file. SY> -- SY> |---------------------| SY> | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | SY> | It's a way of life. | SY> |---------------------------------------| -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 03:54:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA13283; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 03:53:01 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (h69s129a211n47.user.nortelnetworks.com [47.211.129.69]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA13168 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 03:51:32 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAR8pDB27746 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:51:13 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:50:44 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XVGH64K2; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:49:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CBZXW; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:49:39 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168dwo-0001u0-00 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:50:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15363.21462.489540.9873@europe.nortel.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:50:30 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: Customize question In-Reply-To: <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> References: <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper writes: > So the mswindows problems with choice menus are caused by customize > generating menu descriptors like so: > > ["first" ("first") t] > > Now accoridng to the popup-menu docs it seems this is obviously wrong - the > function is a list and so will be evaled with 'eval - "first" isn't a > function so we get failure. > > Shouldn't customize actually generate: > > ["first" '(eval "first") t]? Wouldn't ["first" '(quote "first") t]? do just as well? (untested, of course :) Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 04:02:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA14026; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 04:02:04 -0500 Received: from slipsten.extundo.com (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA13977; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 04:01:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by slipsten.extundo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAR91c405734; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:01:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: slipsten.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:01:38 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Josefsson To: Vin Shelton cc: Subject: Re: Making Packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On 26 Nov 2001, Vin Shelton wrote: > Loading /opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/xemacs-packages/eterm/auto-autoloads... > Compiling /opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/xemacs-packages/mail-lib/mail-abbrevs.el... > >>Error occurred processing mail-abbrevs.el: > Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size My last commit to mail-lib caused a recursion of require. Sorry, I'll fix it tonight. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 05:38:48 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA18527; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:37:06 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA18489; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:36:17 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168faJ-0005d4-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:35:27 +0900 To: "Andy Piper" Cc: "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: Customize question References: <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 27 Nov 2001 19:35:27 +0900 In-Reply-To: <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Message-ID: <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> Shouldn't customize actually generate: Andy> ["first" '(eval "first") t]? Assuming that the idea is to actually return the string "first", you should lose the quote. I guess you're looking at about line 208 in wid-edit.el like I am, and thinking it should be (vector (car x) (list 'eval (car x)) t))) or so? Actually, I think Robert Pluim's suggestion is appropriate here since we know (stringp (car x)) in this context; use 'quote instead of 'eval to make it a list, and convince get_gui_callback() it's a real callback. You give it a try on Windows native and Cygwin, Klaus gives it a try in his environment, I'll give it a try on Linux. I don't think I want to put it in to 21.4.6 but we'll see. I have to say I can't see how the existing code can work on any platform. This bears a closer look. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 06:08:22 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA20051; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:08:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA20008; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:07:02 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168g47-0005iX-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:06:15 +0900 To: "Andy Piper" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: Customize question References: <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 27 Nov 2001 20:06:15 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: <87n118v5g8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: Stephen> You give it a try on Windows native and Cygwin, Klaus Stephen> gives it a try in his environment, I'll give it a try on Stephen> Linux. I don't think I want to put it in to 21.4.6 but Stephen> we'll see. Bletch. Stephen> I have to say I can't see how the existing code can work Stephen> on any platform. This bears a closer look. I see how it works now. A hack, uncommented. `widget-choose' uses 'get-popup-menu-response', which does _not_ execute the callback. Instead, it returns the callback as a pair (fn, arg), and because the arg is a list = ("string"), fn <- 'eval, and arg <- ("string"). `widget-choose' throws away fn, and grabs the car out of arg. So you're going to have to figure out how that thing is getting executed, because it's not happenning in Lisp, and evidently it doesn't happen on X. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 06:24:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA20899; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:24:02 -0500 Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (smtpproxy1.mitre.org [129.83.20.90]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA20873; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:23:31 -0500 Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fARBNK802362; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fARBNJs11839; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from divan.mitre.org (divan.mitre.org [129.83.10.75]) by linus.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01351; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ramsdell@localhost) by divan.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA04797; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:23:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: divan.mitre.org: ramsdell set sender to ramsdell@linus.mitre.org using -f To: Andy Piper Cc: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner), adrian@xemacs.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Net Install References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011126093532.027a0f00@san-francisco.beasys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011126093532.027a0f00@san-francisco.beasys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011126115207.026c0ab8@san-francisco.beasys.com> From: ramsdell@linus.mitre.org (John D. Ramsdell) Date: 27 Nov 2001 06:23:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011126115207.026c0ab8@san-francisco.beasys.com> Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This morning I found version 1.2.2.11.2.4 of setup.exe on http://www.xemacs.org. If that's the current version, all is fine. John Andy Piper writes: > At 08:19 PM 11/26/2001 +0100, Adrian Aichner wrote: > >Done! > > Thanks! > > andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 09:25:54 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29913; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:25:18 -0500 Received: from mail017.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail017.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.179]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29841 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:24:24 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-071.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.71]) by mail017.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAREOHZ20247 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:24:17 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fAREGavF003264; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:16:36 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: Making Packages References: From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:16:36 +1000 In-Reply-To: (Vin Shelton's message of "26 Nov 2001 21:12:48 -0500") Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "VS" == Vin Shelton writes: VS> Welcome back, Steve! VS> In honor of your return, I attempted to build all the packages from VS> the latest CVS sources for the first time in awhile. I noticed the VS> following error: You are so kind. :-) >>>Error occurred processing mail-abbrevs.el: VS> Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size Yep, I saw this and I have asked Simon to look into it. The strange thing is that you can byte-compile the file (outside of package build process) without any errors. And then you'll discover that sendmail.el does the same thing. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 09:50:23 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA31678; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:50:03 -0500 Received: from lamia.lf.net (lamia.LF.net [212.9.190.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA31646 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:49:44 -0500 Received: by lamia.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.111/lamia.lf.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services for mail.xemacs.org id m168jYI-001Sq7C; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:49:38 +0100 (CET) To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: Making Packages References: Organization: LF.net GmbH, Stuttgart, Germany X-Attribution: viteno X-NCC-RegID: de.lfnet X-URL: http://www.LF.net/ X-Face: 5*nyF1\39:,h6Sk1<}(t1O5x!y5y6@XzBRq5LAYj;Xzb*Ak,]@$HL@>: c&#dUFU=U8O(+/6T0k{j{1~uS@GVk4zurEEb.~MoSbG2pM4z!~/<@.tcd `uD`fNR+TM\@++x@!/Bq)24"xD_kGn,jqwVQa|R'|FFxgWa+$0x]p>KE9E /Xk0$%a*2*K]"zOtbk9v0sNgwb2H"IOaEjCVolb5&yW`o#w2}!w!M{Dn&{K0t From: Norbert Koch Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:49:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:16:36 +1000") Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i386-unknown-freebsd4.4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > Yep, I saw this and I have asked Simon to look into it. The strange > thing is that you can byte-compile the file (outside of package build > process) without any errors. > > And then you'll discover that sendmail.el does the same thing. Yup, and I wasn't able to send a bug report, because sendmail was broken, oh well :-) norbert. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 10:14:19 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01082; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:14:04 -0500 Received: from pluton.ispras.ru (pluton.ispras.ru [194.186.94.6]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA01031 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:12:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 24815 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2001 15:08:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gate.ispras.ru) (194.67.37.200) by pluton.ispras.ru with SMTP; 27 Nov 2001 15:08:14 -0000 Received: from fog.ispras.ru (fog [194.67.37.129]) by gate.ispras.ru (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id fARFCPs07649; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:12:25 +0300 (MSK) Received: tid SAA07342; Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:11:46 +0200 Received: from OPAL (opal.kazbek.ispras.ru [194.186.94.150]) by sever.kazbek.ispras.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fARFFkG05362; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:15:47 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from npak@ispras.ru) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:15:46 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <200111271515.fARFFkG05362@sever.kazbek.ispras.ru> From: "Nick V. Pakoulin" To: Cc: Subject: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Latest CVS snapshot of Xemacs-21.4 (windows-21-4). failed to create lispref.info files with makeinfo v.4.0 (from cygwin distribution). NMAKE log: cd c:\software\SRC\xemacs-21.4\nt\..\man\lispref c:\software\cygwin\bin\makeinfo.exe lispref.texi ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `cp' and/or `fn ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `vr' and/or `fn ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `ky' and/or `fn ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `pg' and/or `fn ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `tp' and/or `fn ./glyphs.texi:1431: warning: `.' or `,' must follow cross reference, not f. Extents'.exi:1547: Cross reference to nonexistent node `Mapping Over Specifiers'.:62: Cross reference to nonexistent node `Image makeinfo: Removing output file `../../info/lispref.info' due to errors; use --force to preserve. NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'c:\software\cygwin\bin\makeinfo.exe' : return code '0x2' Stop. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > XEmacs Build Report generated by emacs-version > 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp (Windows)" XEmacs Lucid > with system-configuration > i586-pc-win32 > follows: > Contents of c:\software\SRC\xemacs-21.4\Installation: > (Output from most recent run of ./configure) OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.6 \"Common Lisp (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in \"c:\\software\\SRC\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -Od -Zi -ML\". Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.6\". Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Compiling in extra debug checks. XEmacs will be slow! c:\software\SRC\xemacs-21.4\nt\xemacs-make-install.err not found! c:\software\SRC\xemacs-21.4\nt\xemacs-make-check.err not found! c:\software\SRC\xemacs-21.4\nt\xemacs-make-check-temacs.err not found! c:\software\SRC\xemacs-21.4\nt\xemacs-make-all.err not found! c:\software\SRC\xemacs-21.4\nt\beta.err not found! From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 11:04:41 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04135; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:04:06 -0500 Received: from mrzs235196.medizin.uni-leipzig.de (server3.medizin.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.235.193]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04118 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:03:56 -0500 Received: from server3.medizin.uni-leipzig.de (unverified) by mrzs235196.medizin.uni-leipzig.de (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:03:04 +0100 Received: from pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de (qmailr@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.234.59]) by server3.medizin.uni-leipzig.de (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03691 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:03:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 6061 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Nov 2001 16:03:05 -0000 Date: 27 Nov 2001 16:03:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> From: temu@medizin.uni-leipzig.de To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: crash Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! xemacs crashes immediately after startup. after removing ~/.xemacs completely it starts up. i set some options an use "save to init file". restart again. call "M-x cvs-status" -> crash. there are no core files anyway. only lisp backtrace: HTH, kai uwe 8<-- dispatch-non-command-events() # (condition-case ... . ((nil))) progress-feedback-dispatch-non-command-events() # bind (tmsg top frame value message label) append-progress-feedback(font-lock "Fontifying *cvs*..." 0 nil) # bind (frame value message label) display-progress-feedback(font-lock "Fontifying *cvs*..." 0) # bind (str) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (args value fmt label) progress-feedback-with-label(font-lock "Fontifying %s..." 0 "*cvs*") # bind (maybe-loudly end beg) font-lock-default-unfontify-region(1 1 t) # bind (loudly end beg) font-lock-unfontify-region(1 1 t) # bind (was-on font-lock-verbose font-lock-message-threshold aborted) # (unwind-protect ...) font-lock-default-fontify-buffer() # bind (font-lock-verbose) font-lock-fontify-buffer() # bind (on-p maximum-size arg) font-lock-mode(1) pcl-cvs-fontify() run-hooks(pcl-cvs-fontify) cvs-mode() # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (args temp-name cvs-stderr-buffer pretty-printer post-args cvs-command pre-args directory) run-cvs-process("/home/b/program.project.pantry/" nil "status" nil cvs-status-pp) # bind (this-dir local directory) cvs-do-status("~/program.project.pantry/" nil) # bind (local directory) #("~/program.project.pantry/" nil) call-interactively(cvs-status) command-execute(cvs-status t) # bind (_execute_command_keys_ _execute_command_name_ prefix-arg) execute-extended-command(nil) # bind (command-debug-status) call-interactively(execute-extended-command) # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) Segmentation fault 8<-- ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux pc59 2.4.14 #6 Wed Nov 14 16:53:39 CET 2001 i586 unknown ./configure '--ldflags=-s -znocombreloc' '--with-sound=none,native' '--cflags=-O2 -g -Wall' '--with-x11' '--extra-verbose' '--with-site-lisp' '--statedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/xemacs-21.4.5' '--prefix=/usr' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--dynamic' '--without-postgresql' '--with-gpm=no' '--with_menubars=lucid' '--with_scrollbars=lucid' '--with_dialogs=athena' '--docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.5/i386-debian-linux/nomule/' '--package-path=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' 'i386-debian-linux' XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i386-debian-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/src/build/xemacs21-21.4.5 Installation prefix: /usr Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -O2 -g -Wall Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. 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Loading mail-abbrevs...done Loading mail-abbrevs... Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Loading cus-face...done Loading cus-face... Paren mode is sexp Loading paren...done Loading paren... Loading 50python-mode...done Loading 50python-mode... Loading 50pcl-cvs-startup...done Loading 50pcl-cvs-startup... Error while loading 50gettext Loading 50gettext... Loading 50dpkg-dev...done Loading 50dpkg-dev... Loading 50debview...done Loading 50debview... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 12:05:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07806; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:05:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07551; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:02:28 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168lbq-0006D7-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:01:26 +0900 To: "Nick V. Pakoulin" Cc: , Subject: Re: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 References: <200111271515.fARFFkG05362@sever.kazbek.ispras.ru> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 28 Nov 2001 02:01:26 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200111271515.fARFFkG05362@sever.kazbek.ispras.ru> Message-ID: <878zcstaft.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Nick" == Nick V Pakoulin writes: Nick> Latest CVS snapshot of Xemacs-21.4 (windows-21-4). failed Nick> to create lispref.info files with makeinfo v.4.0 (from Nick> cygwin distribution). Thanks for the report. The warning at glyphs.texi:1431 is genuine, and is now fixed in my workspace. The others are Cygwin bogosity, I would guess. Apparently Cygwin's makeinfo doesn't consider ASCII 13 whitespace in macro arguments. Note the funky way all the allegedly erroneous text wraps to the beginning of the same line. You could try reformatting those lines so that line breaks don't occur in a @ref argument and with extra whitespace padding the ends of the synindes lines. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NMAKE log: cd c:\software\SRC\xemacs-21.4\nt\..\man\lispref c:\software\cygwin\bin\makeinfo.exe lispref.texi ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `cp' and/or `fn ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `vr' and/or `fn ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `ky' and/or `fn ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `pg' and/or `fn ' in @synindex.: Unknown index `tp' and/or `fn ./glyphs.texi:1431: warning: `.' or `,' must follow cross reference, not f. Extents'.exi:1547: Cross reference to nonexistent node `Mapping Over Specifiers'.:62: Cross reference to nonexistent node `Image ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. 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id fARHPZgA004924; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 03:25:35 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: Making Packages References: From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 03:25:35 +1000 In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:01:38 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "SJ" == Simon Josefsson writes: SJ> On 26 Nov 2001, Vin Shelton wrote: >>Loading /opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/xemacs-packages/eterm/auto-autoloads... >>Compiling /opt/build/xemacs-packages-2001-11-26/xemacs-packages/mail-lib/mail-abbrevs.el... >>>>Error occurred processing mail-abbrevs.el: >>Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size SJ> My last commit to mail-lib caused a recursion of require. Sorry, I'll fix SJ> it tonight. Great. Thanks Simon. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 12:39:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10543; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:39:03 -0500 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10472 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:38:02 -0500 Received: from tokamak.dtdns.net (we-24-127-70-176.we.mediaone.net [24.127.70.176]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fARHb2V11893 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sc by tokamak.dtdns.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 168mAz-0003GY-00 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:37:45 -0800 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:37:45 -0800 From: "s. champ" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: proposal to modify write-file Message-ID: <20011127093745.A12518@tokamak.dtdns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I've been wanting to modify write-file, to make it ask the user if a non-existing directory should be created, rather than throwing an error about it, but wanted to see what other folks would say about it, before submitting a patch for it. it would be a minor change; would there be any problems with it? i'd thought of making it ask the user only when (interactive-p); probably will, unless there's a good argument against it. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 12:47:15 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11238; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:47:03 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11195 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:46:20 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fARHkCV24259; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001276wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.107]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08921; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:46:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127093508.00ba62e0@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:35:17 -0800 To: Robert Pluim , XEmacs Beta List From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Customize question In-Reply-To: <15363.21462.489540.9873@europe.nortel.com> References: <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Seems reasonable. andy At 09:50 AM 11/27/01 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: >Andy Piper writes: > > So the mswindows problems with choice menus are caused by customize > > generating menu descriptors like so: > > > > ["first" ("first") t] > > > > Now accoridng to the popup-menu docs it seems this is obviously wrong > - the > > function is a list and so will be evaled with 'eval - "first" isn't a > > function so we get failure. > > > > Shouldn't customize actually generate: > > > > ["first" '(eval "first") t]? > >Wouldn't > >["first" '(quote "first") t]? > >do just as well? (untested, of course :) > >Robert >-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 12:53:27 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11782; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:53:12 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11472; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:50:02 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fARHo1V24485; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001276wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.107]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09644; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:50:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094130.00b03f00@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:44:08 -0800 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Customize question Cc: "XEmacs Beta List" In-Reply-To: <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 07:35 PM 11/27/01 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >or so? Actually, I think Robert Pluim's suggestion is appropriate >here since we know (stringp (car x)) in this context; use 'quote >instead of 'eval to make it a list, and convince get_gui_callback() >it's a real callback. Right. I have a vague recollection that the evaluation of msic_user_event's allows for this sort of weirdness, however I think that in some cicumstances (currently all under cygwin it seems) the evaluation gets done much earlier and happens the "correct" way - hence the failure. >You give it a try on Windows native and Cygwin, Klaus gives it a try >in his environment, I'll give it a try on Linux. I don't think I want >to put it in to 21.4.6 but we'll see. That's what the windows branch is for :) It also requires some extra code to pull out the string correctly. >I have to say I can't see how the existing code can work on any >platform. This bears a closer look. That's what I find weird, it obviously does work under UNIX. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 12:56:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11927; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:56:02 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11829; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:53:53 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fARHrqV24727; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001276wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.107]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10535; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:53:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094504.00ba9700@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:47:59 -0800 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Customize question In-Reply-To: <87n118v5g8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 08:06 PM 11/27/01 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >I see how it works now. A hack, uncommented. > >`widget-choose' uses 'get-popup-menu-response', which does _not_ >execute the callback. Instead, it returns the callback as a pair (fn, >arg), and because the arg is a list = ("string"), fn <- 'eval, and arg ><- ("string"). `widget-choose' throws away fn, and grabs the car out >of arg. I still don't get it. get-popup-menu-response creates a popup menu when when selected enqueues a misc ue with fn == eval and data == '("first"), fn is applied to data all hell breaks loose. If I put debug code in menubar-msw.c I can see this happening. >So you're going to have to figure out how that thing is getting >executed, because it's not happenning in Lisp, and evidently it >doesn't happen on X. I still don't see why it doesn't happen on X. Also, whether it works under X or not seems irrelevant, the implementation is relying on some undocumented vagary of the runtime. Seems bogus to me. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 12:58:12 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12107; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:58:02 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11945 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:56:07 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fARHu6V24868; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001276wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.107]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11194; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:56:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094930.00ba7a50@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:50:14 -0800 To: temu@medizin.uni-leipzig.de, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Please check that you are not suffering from Xaw3d installed as Xaw. I think debian is particularly susceptible to this. Also please get a C backtrace. Thanks andy At 04:03 PM 11/27/01 +0000, temu@medizin.uni-leipzig.de wrote: >This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, > not to your local site managers!! >Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have >translators to read other languages for them. > > >Please describe as succinctly as possible: > - What happened. > - What you thought should have happened. > - Precisely what you were doing at the time. > >Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. >================================================================ >Dear Bug Team! > >xemacs crashes immediately after startup. >after removing ~/.xemacs completely it starts up. >i set some options an use "save to init file". >restart again. >call "M-x cvs-status" -> crash. > >there are no core files anyway. only lisp backtrace: > >HTH, kai uwe > >8<-- > dispatch-non-command-events() > # (condition-case ... . ((nil))) > progress-feedback-dispatch-non-command-events() > # bind (tmsg top frame value message label) > append-progress-feedback(font-lock "Fontifying *cvs*..." 0 nil) > # bind (frame value message label) > display-progress-feedback(font-lock "Fontifying *cvs*..." 0) > # bind (str) > # (unwind-protect ...) > # bind (args value fmt label) > progress-feedback-with-label(font-lock "Fontifying %s..." 0 "*cvs*") > # bind (maybe-loudly end beg) > font-lock-default-unfontify-region(1 1 t) > # bind (loudly end beg) > font-lock-unfontify-region(1 1 t) > # bind (was-on font-lock-verbose font-lock-message-threshold aborted) > # (unwind-protect ...) > font-lock-default-fontify-buffer() > # bind (font-lock-verbose) > font-lock-fontify-buffer() > # bind (on-p maximum-size arg) > font-lock-mode(1) > pcl-cvs-fontify() > run-hooks(pcl-cvs-fontify) > cvs-mode() > # (unwind-protect ...) > # bind (args temp-name cvs-stderr-buffer pretty-printer post-args > cvs-command pre-args directory) > run-cvs-process("/home/b/program.project.pantry/" nil "status" nil > cvs-status-pp) > # bind (this-dir local directory) > cvs-do-status("~/program.project.pantry/" nil) > # bind (local directory) > # [cvs-buffer-name local directory cvs-do-status switch-to-buffer] 3 > ("/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/pcl-cvs/pcl-cvs.elc" . 47313) (list > (read-file-name "CVS Status (directory): " nil default-directory nil) > current-prefix-arg)>("~/program.project.pantry/" nil) > call-interactively(cvs-status) > command-execute(cvs-status t) > # bind (_execute_command_keys_ _execute_command_name_ prefix-arg) > execute-extended-command(nil) > # bind (command-debug-status) > call-interactively(execute-extended-command) > # (condition-case ... . error) > # (catch top-level ...) >Segmentation fault >8<-- > >================================================================ > >System Info to help track down your bug: >--------------------------------------- > >uname -a: Linux pc59 2.4.14 #6 Wed Nov 14 16:53:39 CET 2001 i586 unknown > >./configure '--ldflags=-s -znocombreloc' '--with-sound=none,native' >'--cflags=-O2 -g -Wall' '--with-x11' '--extra-verbose' '--with-site-lisp' >'--statedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/xemacs-21.4.5' >'--prefix=/usr' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--dynamic' >'--without-postgresql' '--with-gpm=no' '--with_menubars=lucid' >'--with_scrollbars=lucid' '--with_dialogs=athena' >'--docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.5/i386-debian-linux/nomule/' >'--package-path=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' >'i386-debian-linux' > > >XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i386-debian-linux'. > > >Compilation / Installation: > Source code location: /usr/src/build/xemacs21-21.4.5 > Installation prefix: /usr > Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > Compiler: gcc -O2 -g -Wall > Relocating allocator for buffers: no > GNU version of malloc: yes > - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. > >Window System: > Compiling in support for the X window system: > - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include > - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib > - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. > Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: > - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw > - Athena library to link: Xaw > Using Lucid menubars. > Using Lucid scrollbars. > Using Athena dialog boxes. > Using Athena native widgets. > >TTY: > Compiling in support for ncurses. > >Images: > Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > Compiling in support for XPM images. > Compiling in support for PNG images. > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. > >Sound: > Compiling in support for sound (native). > >Databases: > Compiling in support for Berkeley database. > Compiling in support for LDAP. > >Internationalization: > >Mail: > Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. > >Other Features: > Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. > > > >Load-Path Lisp Shadows: >---------------------- >(/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-xemacs >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-xemacs >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-whois >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-whois >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-w3 >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-w3 >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-vm >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-vm >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-snarf >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-snarf >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-sc >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-sc >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-rmail >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-rmail >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-reportmail >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-reportmail >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-print >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-print >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-migrate >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-migrate >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-mhe >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-mhe >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-merge >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-merge >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-hooks >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-hooks >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gui >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gui >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gnus >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gnus >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-ftp >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-ftp >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-com >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-com >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-autoloads >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-autoloads >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-init >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-init >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/load-path >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/load-path >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/python-elisp/python-mode >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/python1.5-elisp/python-mode >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/debian-startup >/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/debian-startup >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-xemacs >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-xemacs >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-whois >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-whois >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-w3 >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-w3 >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-vm >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-vm >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-snarf >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-snarf >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-sc >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-sc >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-rmail >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-rmail >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-reportmail >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-reportmail >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-print >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-print >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-migrate >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-migrate >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-mhe >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-mhe >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-merge >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-merge >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-hooks >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-hooks >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gui >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gui >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gnus >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-gnus >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-ftp >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-ftp >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/bbdb/bbdb-com >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/bbdb/bbdb-com >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/build/path >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/calc/path >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/read >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/read >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/string >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/string >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/cookie >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/cookie >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/avltree >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/avltree >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/bintree >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/bintree >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/dll >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/dll >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/dll-debug >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/dll-debug >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/queue-m >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/queue-m >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/queue-f >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/queue-f >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/stack-m >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/stack-m >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/stack-f >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/stack-f >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/elib/elib-node >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/elib/elib-node >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/gnus/rfc2104 >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/mail-lib/rfc2104 >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/pcl-cvs/pcl-cvs >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/pcl-cvs/pcl-cvs >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-lisp/python-elisp/python-mode >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/prog-modes/python-mode >/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/cperl-mode >/usr/share/xemacs21/packages/lisp/prog-modes/cperl-mode >/etc/emacs/site-start >/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages/lisp/site-start) > > >Installed XEmacs Packages: >------------------------- > >((zenirc :version 1.11 :type regular) > (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) > (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 13:09:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12854; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:08:12 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (h69s129a211n47.user.nortelnetworks.com [47.211.129.69]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12821 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:07:38 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fARI7LB20633 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:07:22 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:06:51 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XVGH8C0A; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:24:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CBZ97; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:23:51 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168lyS-0001of-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:24:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:24:48 +0100 To: temu@medizin.uni-leipzig.de Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> References: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , temu@medizin.uni-leipzig.de writes: > XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i386-debian-linux'. This is debian unstable, I imagine? I'm getting the same crash (but XEmacs 21.5 (beta3) works fine on the same machine). Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 13:31:21 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14551; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:31:02 -0500 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14507; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:30:38 -0500 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 168n05-0007ek-0F; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:30:33 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.8.155]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 168mzt-0OQsQiC; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:30:21 +0100 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: "Nick V. Pakoulin" , , Subject: Re: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 References: <200111271515.fARFFkG05362@sever.kazbek.ispras.ru> <878zcstaft.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 55 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>> "Nick" == Nick V Pakoulin writes: Nick> Latest CVS snapshot of Xemacs-21.4 (windows-21-4). failed Nick> to create lispref.info files with makeinfo v.4.0 (from Nick> cygwin distribution). Stephen> Thanks for the report. Stephen> The warning at glyphs.texi:1431 is genuine, and is now Stephen> fixed in my workspace. The others are Cygwin bogosity, I Hi Stephen, I looked into this too (in r21-4-6rc1 though) and this is what I came up with: man/ChangeLog addition: 2001-11-27 Adrian Aichner * lispref\glyphs.texi (Glyph Examples): Use ref instead of xref. xemacs-21.4 Patch (cvs -f -z3 -q diff -u man/lispref/glyphs.texi): Index: man/lispref/glyphs.texi =================================================================== RCS file: /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/xemacs/man/lispref/glyphs.texi,v retrieving revision 1.3.14.1 diff -u -r1.3.14.1 glyphs.texi --- man/lispref/glyphs.texi 2001/11/21 07:56:50 1.3.14.1 +++ man/lispref/glyphs.texi 2001/11/27 16:25:49 @@ -1428,8 +1428,8 @@ To programmatically query whether or not a particular file format is supported, you can use the @code{featurep} function, with one of: @code{gif}, @code{tiff}, @code{jpeg}, @code{xpm}, @code{xbm}, -@code{png}, or @code{xface}. @xref{Image Specifiers} for an up-to-date -list. Example: +@code{png}, or @code{xface}. For an up-to-date list see @ref{Image +Specifiers}. Example: @example ;; Returns `t' if TIFF is supported: Does it look like the right fix? Best regards, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 14:07:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17557; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:07:02 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17521; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:06:22 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BC42B50; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:06:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4CF506; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:06:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id LAA13263; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:06:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111271906.LAA13263@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Nick V. Pakoulin" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "27 Nov 2001 19:30:46 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:06:19 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , [ xemacs-buildreports deleted from the cc: list. ] Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: > To programmatically query whether or not a particular file format is > supported, you can use the @code{featurep} function, with one of: > @code{gif}, @code{tiff}, @code{jpeg}, @code{xpm}, @code{xbm}, > -@code{png}, or @code{xface}. @xref{Image Specifiers} for an up-to-date > -list. Example: > +@code{png}, or @code{xface}. For an up-to-date list see @ref{Image > +Specifiers}. Example: > > @example > ;; Returns `t' if TIFF is supported: > > Does it look like the right fix? If I'm reading the texinfo docs correctly, I think the right fix is to keep everything the same, except add a comma after the @xref closing brace ("}"), like: @code{gif}, @code{tiff}, @code{jpeg}, @code{xpm}, @code{xbm}, @code{png}, or @code{xface}. @xref{Image Specifiers}, for an up-to-date list. Example: (I think I need to update my copy of texinfo; makeinfo didn't complain about the missing comma.) -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 14:17:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18243; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:16:04 -0500 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18171; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:15:29 -0500 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 168nhX-0006AW-06; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:15:27 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.8.155]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 168nhK-1EMe5QC; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:15:14 +0100 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner), "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Nick V. Pakoulin" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 References: <200111271906.LAA13263@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 51 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> [ xemacs-buildreports deleted from the cc: list. ] Darryl> Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: >> To programmatically query whether or not a particular file format is >> supported, you can use the @code{featurep} function, with one of: >> @code{gif}, @code{tiff}, @code{jpeg}, @code{xpm}, @code{xbm}, >> -@code{png}, or @code{xface}. @xref{Image Specifiers} for an up-to-date >> -list. Example: >> +@code{png}, or @code{xface}. For an up-to-date list see @ref{Image >> +Specifiers}. Example: >> >> @example >> ;; Returns `t' if TIFF is supported: >> >> Does it look like the right fix? Darryl> If I'm reading the texinfo docs correctly, I think Darryl> the right fix is Darryl> to keep everything the same, except add a comma after the Darryl> @xref closing brace ("}"), like: Does the comma belong there, according to grammar rules? Gotta find my "Elements of Style" again. Best regards, Adrian Darryl> @code{gif}, @code{tiff}, @code{jpeg}, @code{xpm}, Darryl> @code{xbm}, @code{png}, or @code{xface}. @xref{Image Darryl> Specifiers}, for an up-to-date list. Example: Darryl> (I think I need to update my copy of texinfo; makeinfo Darryl> didn't complain about the missing comma.) Darryl> -- Darryl> Darryl Okahata Darryl> darrylo@soco.agilent.com Darryl> DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not Darryl> constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or Darryl> of the little green men that have been following him all day. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 14:27:15 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18853; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:26:10 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18795; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:25:12 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF43B2E0E; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:25:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABB6714; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:25:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id LAA13539; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111271925.LAA13539@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Nick V. Pakoulin" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "27 Nov 2001 20:15:41 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:25:09 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: > Darryl> If I'm reading the texinfo docs correctly, I think > Darryl> the right fix is > Darryl> to keep everything the same, except add a comma after the > Darryl> @xref closing brace ("}"), like: > > Does the comma belong there, according to grammar rules? The comma belongs there according to texinfo rules ;-). From the texinfo manual: *Please note:* A period or comma *must* follow the closing brace of an `@xref'. It is required to terminate the cross reference. This period or comma will appear in the output, both in the Info file and in the printed manual. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 16:06:35 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA26504; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:06:08 -0500 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.de (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA26454; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:05:23 -0500 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 168pPs-0007HR-0E; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:05:20 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.8.155]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 168pPd-0XaRNIC; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:05:05 +0100 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner), "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Nick V. Pakoulin" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 References: <200111271925.LAA13539@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: <7ksbrkkk.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: Darryl> If I'm reading the texinfo docs correctly, I think Darryl> the right fix is Darryl> to keep everything the same, except add a comma after the Darryl> @xref closing brace ("}"), like: >> >> Does the comma belong there, according to grammar rules? Darryl> The comma belongs there according to texinfo rules Darryl> ;-). From the Darryl> texinfo manual: Darryl> *Please note:* A period or comma *must* follow the Darryl> closing brace of an `@xref'. It is required to Darryl> terminate the cross reference. This period or comma Darryl> will appear in the output, both in the Info file and Darryl> in the printed manual. Yep, I have read that when I was trying to fix the problem earlier. The real question is whether the resulting document is what you want. I haven't found the correct use of references starting with "See ... bla bla." in my "Element of Style". Either way, we have two options now to fix the problem. Best regards, Adrian Darryl> -- Darryl> Darryl Okahata Darryl> darrylo@soco.agilent.com Darryl> DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not Darryl> constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or Darryl> of the little green men that have been following him all day. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 16:10:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA26817; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:10:01 -0500 Received: from mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.231]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA26655 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:07:35 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-071.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.71]) by mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fARL7TQ09807 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:07:29 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fARKxIVh015818; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:59:18 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: @AUCDIR in load-path References: <200111270138.RAA06646@mina.soco.agilent.com> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:59:18 +1000 In-Reply-To: <200111270138.RAA06646@mina.soco.agilent.com> (Darryl Okahata's message of "Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:38:54 -0800") Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "DO" == Darryl Okahata writes: DO> Steve Youngs wrote: >>|--==> "JR" == Jim Radford writes: >> JR> After upgrading to auctex-1.25 @AUCDIR shows up in my load-path. JR> Thanks, >> >>I've seen this for ages (read years). Anyone like to tell me why? DO> Probably because auctex wants to be installed using its installer DO> (and not as an XEmacs package), and so the auctex/tex-site.el is never DO> properly modified to contain a correct value for "TeX-lisp-directory", DO> but instead has the value, "@AUCDIR" (which would normally be edited DO> and changed during the auctex install process). After looking at this, I can't see any reason why "TeX-lisp-directory" shouldn't default to '(locate-data-directory "auctex")'. Anyone disagree before I submit a patch? -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 16:52:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA31213; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:52:05 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (h69s129a211n47.user.nortelnetworks.com [47.211.129.69]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA31171 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:51:37 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fARLpMB08347 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:51:22 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:51:11 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XVGH8KZ9; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:50:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CB5BH; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:50:04 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168q89-00037S-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:51:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15364.2757.317115.766730@europe.nortel.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:51:01 +0100 To: Andy Piper Cc: temu@medizin.uni-leipzig.de, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094930.00ba7a50@san-francisco.beasys.com> References: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094930.00ba7a50@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper writes: > Please check that you are not suffering from Xaw3d installed as > Xaw. I think debian is particularly susceptible to this. I also have this problem, and I'm using Motif widgets (well, Lesstif). A minor spot of debugging (more tomorrow) seems to show that XEmacs' top level widget structure is b0rked somehow. -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 17:17:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00719; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:15:43 -0500 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00590; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:13:56 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F36D2F34; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:13:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70A64CD; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:13:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id OAA29541; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:13:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111272213.OAA29541@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Nick V. Pakoulin" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "27 Nov 2001 22:05:31 +0100." <7ksbrkkk.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Tue_Nov_27_14:13:48_2001-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:13:49 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --Multipart_Tue_Nov_27_14:13:48_2001-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: > The real question is whether the resulting document is what you want. It should be. The info version looks like: =============================================================================== To programmatically query whether or not a particular file format is supported, you can use the `featurep' function, with one of: `gif', `tiff', `jpeg', `xpm', `xbm', `png', or `xface'. *Note Image Specifiers::, for an up-to-date list. 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Aichner), "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Nick V. Pakoulin" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 References: <200111272213.OAA29541@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: >> The real question is whether the resulting document is what you want. Darryl> It should be. The info version looks like: Darryl> =============================================================================== Darryl> To programmatically query whether or not a particular file format Darryl> is supported, you can use the `featurep' function, with one of: Darryl> `gif', `tiff', `jpeg', `xpm', `xbm', `png', or `xface'. *Note Darryl> Image Specifiers::, for an up-to-date list. Example: Darryl> =============================================================================== I don't think "*Note Image Specifiers::, for an up-to-date list." complete sentence nor proper punctuation :-) But it's probably not worth spending more time on this. Darryl> The formatted version looks even better (see attached gif). That looks nice, yes. Darryl> -- Darryl> Darryl Okahata Darryl> darrylo@soco.agilent.com Darryl> DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not Darryl> constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or Darryl> of the little green men that have been following him all day. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 17:34:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01790; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:33:00 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (h69s129a211n47.user.nortelnetworks.com [47.211.129.69]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01763 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:32:34 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fARMWUB09617 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:32:30 GMT Received: from znsgy0k8.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:32:26 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by znsgy0k8.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR218967; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:31:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CB5BT; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:31:20 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168qm4-00068R-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:32:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15364.5232.557066.967812@europe.nortel.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:32:16 +0100 To: Andy Piper , temu@medizin.uni-leipzig.de, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <15364.2757.317115.766730@europe.nortel.com> References: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094930.00ba7a50@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15364.2757.317115.766730@europe.nortel.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Robert Pluim writes: > Andy Piper writes: > > Please check that you are not suffering from Xaw3d installed as > > Xaw. I think debian is particularly susceptible to this. > > I also have this problem, and I'm using Motif widgets (well, > Lesstif). A minor spot of debugging (more tomorrow) seems to show that > XEmacs' top level widget structure is b0rked somehow. This turns out to be the -z combreloc crash, which I'd forgotten about. Kai's problems are different. Time for bed, I think. Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 18:32:58 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06191; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:31:17 -0500 Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06127; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:30:27 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32C2937; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:30:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F174527; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:30:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id PAA00380; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:30:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111272330.PAA00380@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Nick V. Pakoulin" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [Problems with lispref.info] XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)", i586-pc-win32 Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "27 Nov 2001 23:25:05 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:30:20 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: > I don't think > "*Note Image Specifiers::, for an up-to-date list." > complete sentence nor proper punctuation :-) Well, phrases like that are rampant in virtually all *.info documentation. I don't like it either (;-), but that's what the texinfo folks did. It's not very good English, but it's passable. > But it's probably not worth spending more time on this. Yes. You'd have to change virtually every manual if you wanted to change that. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 18:37:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06510; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:36:02 -0500 Received: from chromium.edml ([210.54.139.121]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06418 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:34:54 -0500 Received: (from timw@localhost) by chromium.edml (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fARNZOF12563; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:35:24 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: chromium.edml: timw set sender to tim.wilson@mail.com using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: 21.5.3: How to corrupt screen and create additional (spurious?) X Window. From: Tim Wilson Original-Sender: Tim Wilson Date: 28 Nov 2001 12:35:24 +1300 Message-ID: Lines: 76 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= (Installation and screen snapshot below.) 1. Start xemacs -q -no-site-file 2. (BTW, the gutter appears as plain grey -- no tabs.) 3. Turn off toolbar: Menu Options -> Display -> Toolbars visible 4. Move gutter to left: Menu Options -> Display -> Default gutter location -> Left. 5. An additional X Window appears at (0,0), with no title or contents (see screen shot). XEmacs prints: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 3722 (gtk_widget_get_parent_window): assertion `widget->parent != NULL' failed. Tim timw dot edml dot co dot nz uname -a: Linux chromium.edml 2.4.9-12 #1 Tue Oct 30 18:16:30 EST 2001 i586 unknown ./configure '--prefix=/home/app/xemacs-21.5.3' '--with-gtk' '--with-gnome' '--with-pop' XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i586-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /home/app/src/xemacs-21.5.3 Installation prefix: /home/app/xemacs-21.5.3 Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Using GTK menubars. Using GTK scrollbars. Using GTK dialog boxes. Using GTK native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. 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gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06998; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:43:43 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9E531DC; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:43:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C973E53E; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:43:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id PAA00506; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:43:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111272343.PAA00506@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Steve Youngs Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: @AUCDIR in load-path Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:59:18 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:43:41 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs wrote: > After looking at this, I can't see any reason why "TeX-lisp-directory" > shouldn't default to '(locate-data-directory "auctex")'. > > Anyone disagree before I submit a patch? Looks good. It's interesting to note that, if you ignore the auctex installation instructions and do NOT put the following into "~/.xemacs/init.el", everything works fine: (require 'tex-site) Basically, XEmacs' auto-autoloads take care of the auctex initialization, and eliminate the need for the `require'. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 19:35:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA10821; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:35:02 -0500 Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA10774; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:34:11 -0500 Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 168sfs-0005Gv-01; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:34:04 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.8.155]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 168sfo-0TPgLwC; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:34:00 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Cc: "SunSITE.dk Staff" , Texi2html Dev Mailing List Subject: http://www.{,dk,us}.xemacs.org/Documentation/beta/html/ X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi XEmacs Developers! I have this on my to-do list for a while: XEmacs Online Manuals on http://www.xemacs.org/ The first rough cut is avaliable NOW at our master websites: http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/beta/html/ http://www.dk.xemacs.org/Documentation/beta/html/ http://www.us.xemacs.org/Documentation/beta/html/ They're all generated with the latest texi2html version which I have been working on hard this past weekend. Documentation/index.content will need to be updated, but not this night :-) Please give me a full dose of any gripes about the current state of these new documents, especially any breakage. BTW: beta/html/ amounts to ca. 18000KB of disk space. Best regards, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 20:20:28 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13315; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:20:02 -0500 Received: from zion.rcn.com (209-6-124-185.c3-0.nwt-ubr1.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.124.185]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13277 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:19:42 -0500 Received: by zion.rcn.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id A4BEA11989; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:21:49 -0500 (EST) To: Simon Josefsson Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: [COMMIT] mail-lib compilation fix References: From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: 27 Nov 2001 20:21:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I can now build the XEmacs packages. Thanks, vin Simon Josefsson writes: > mail-abbrev and sendmail are highly dependent on each other, the usual > solution of placing the provide in the top of one file and requiring > the other there as well doesn't work -- mail-abbrev has top-level code > that need mail-mode-map, and sendmail has a macro that need to be > evaluated for the byte compiler to do the right thing when compiling > sendmail. > > The patch below should be a quick solution, a better would be to clean > up the dependency between the files, but I'll save that for a rainy > day (or as a exercise for the reader). > > [COMMIT] > > 2001-11-27 Simon Josefsson > > * sendmail.el (top-level): Don't require mail-abbrev. > > * mail-abbrevs.el (mail-abbrev-mailrc-file): Defun. Autoload. > > --- sendmail.el.~1.14.~ Tue Nov 27 21:24:05 2001 > +++ sendmail.el Tue Nov 27 22:02:18 2001 > @@ -33,8 +33,6 @@ > ;;; Code: > > (require 'rfc822) > -(eval-when-compile > - (require 'mail-abbrevs)) > > (defgroup sendmail nil > "Mail sending commands for Emacs." > --- mail-abbrevs.el.~1.5.~ Thu Nov 22 18:20:59 2001 > +++ mail-abbrevs.el Tue Nov 27 21:55:06 2001 > @@ -139,8 +139,9 @@ > file) > :group 'mail-abbrevs) > > -(defmacro mail-abbrev-mailrc-file () > - '(or mail-abbrev-mailrc-file > +;;;###autoload > +(defun mail-abbrev-mailrc-file () > + (or mail-abbrev-mailrc-file > (setq mail-abbrev-mailrc-file > (or (getenv "MAILRC") "~/.mailrc")))) > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 20:28:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13746; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:28:03 -0500 Received: from zion.rcn.com (209-6-124-185.c3-0.nwt-ubr1.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.124.185]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13727 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:27:19 -0500 Received: by zion.rcn.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4DAE411989; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:29:26 -0500 (EST) To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: "Wrong type argument" with Update Package Index References: <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: 27 Nov 2001 20:29:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> Message-ID: Lines: 26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: > >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: > > SY> Sorry for the long delay, I've been "offline" for a couple of months. > SY> |--==> "s" == steele writes: > > s> Dear Bug Team! > > s> Choosing Tools>Packages>Update Package Index results in a minibuffer > s> display of: "Wrong type argument: stringp, nil" > > SY> How have you gotten on with this? I usually: > > Hi Steve, > > I have seen this, but it didn't seem reproducible and I didn't find > the time to disagnose the problem. > > This problem seems to be recent (think weeks or months)? > > Best regards, Isn't this the problem where if you create a .xemacs directory, the bug disappears? Does that help any in tracking it down? - vin From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 20:31:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13970; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:31:02 -0500 Received: from mail001.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail001.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.244]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13914 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:30:18 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-071.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.71]) by mail001.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAS1U6E31255 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:30:06 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fAS1ON6F024731; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:24:23 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: "Wrong type argument" with Update Package Index References: <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:24:23 +1000 In-Reply-To: <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> (Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de's message of "27 Nov 2001 08:47:28 +0100") Message-ID: Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "APA" == Adrian Aichner writes: >>>>>>"SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> Sorry for the long delay, I've been "offline" for a couple of months. SY> |--==> "s" == steele writes: s> Dear Bug Team! s> Choosing Tools>Packages>Update Package Index results in a minibuffer s> display of: "Wrong type argument: stringp, nil" APA> Hi Steve, APA> I have seen this, but it didn't seem reproducible and I didn't find APA> the time to disagnose the problem. It happens when you don't have a '~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp' file. If the file can't be found there, it should search /lib/xemacs-/etc/, but it doesn't. I can fix this easily (and in fact have), but I've got this silly idea that I can fix the pgp stuff in the package tools as well. I'd like to include that in the same patch. So the fix is a day or so away. In the meantime, if you get bitten by this, the quick work around is cp /lib/xemacs-/etc/package-index.LATEST.pgp \ ~/.xemacs/ RET APA> This problem seems to be recent (think weeks or months)? Browsing the ChangeLog would suggest at least a year, possibly two. BTW, this bug doesn't bite XEmacs 21.1.x, only 21.[245].x -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 21:21:34 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA16976; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:21:12 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA16806 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:19:23 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168uIz-0007RR-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:18:33 +0900 To: temu@medizin.uni-leipzig.de Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: crash References: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 28 Nov 2001 11:18:33 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> Message-ID: <87elmjskna.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "temu" == temu writes: temu> xemacs crashes immediately after startup. after removing temu> ~/.xemacs completely it starts up. i set some options an temu> use "save to init file". restart again. call "M-x temu> cvs-status" -> crash. temu> there are no core files anyway. only lisp backtrace: Use bash$ gdb `which xemacs` | tee xemacs.bt (note backticks, or use full path to executable) (gdb) run to run XEmacs under the debugger, force XEmacs to crash, then (gdb) bt (gdb) quit and send us the result captured in xemacs.bt. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 21:28:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA17457; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:28:03 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA17413 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:27:18 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168uQV-0007Rf-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:26:19 +0900 To: "s. champ" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: proposal to modify write-file References: <20011127093745.A12518@tokamak.dtdns.net> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 28 Nov 2001 11:26:18 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20011127093745.A12518@tokamak.dtdns.net> Message-ID: <87adx7skad.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "s" == s champ writes: s> I've been wanting to modify write-file, to make it ask the user s> if a non-existing directory should be created, rather than s> throwing an error about it, but wanted to see what other folks s> would say about it, before submitting a patch for it. There's already at least one function that does this. It may be a VM function. Find it (them), and think about modifying the callers (including keymaps) to use it (the best one). It might be worth adding to the core if it isn't in already. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 21:30:11 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA17648; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:30:01 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA17591 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:29:44 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168uSy-0007Rp-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:28:52 +0900 To: Darryl Okahata Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: @AUCDIR in load-path References: <200111272343.PAA00506@mina.soco.agilent.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 28 Nov 2001 11:28:52 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200111272343.PAA00506@mina.soco.agilent.com> Message-ID: <87667vsk63.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> Steve Youngs wrote: >> After looking at this, I can't see any reason why >> "TeX-lisp-directory" shouldn't default to >> '(locate-data-directory "auctex")'. >> >> Anyone disagree before I submit a patch? This doesn't work on GNU Emacs, does it? We really should do something that Per can incorporate upstream. Darryl> It's interesting to note that, if you ignore the Darryl> auctex installation instructions and do NOT put the Darryl> following into "~/.xemacs/init.el", everything works fine: Not for me. I get the core tex-mode.el for some reason. Lose, lose, lose. :-P -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 21:47:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA18502; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:47:02 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA18453; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:46:12 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168uiq-0007Se-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:45:16 +0900 To: Andy Piper Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: Customize question References: <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094504.00ba9700@san-francisco.beasys.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 28 Nov 2001 11:45:15 +0900 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094504.00ba9700@san-francisco.beasys.com> Message-ID: <87u1vfr4uc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 78 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Ben: We have a problem on MS Windows where choice menus in Custom don't work. What happens is that Custom constructs a menu of the form ("menu" ["first" ("first") t] ["second" ("second") t]) and calls `get-popup-menu-response' on it. Custom takes the event returned, throws away the event-function (which is always `eval'), grabs the car out of event-object, and returns it to the calling code. In the MS Windows port under some circumstances this event is being "executed", resulting in an attempt to funcall a string. Andy thinks the idiom Custom is using requires unholy knowledge of the implementation, I think it's a bit hackish, but is correct and should be documented. I don't understand why MS Windows port barfs. Further analysis follows. Can you shed any light on this? >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> I still don't get it. get-popup-menu-response creates a Andy> popup menu when when selected enqueues a misc ue with fn == Andy> eval and data == '("first"), Not according to the docs: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ `get-popup-menu-response' is a compiled Lisp function -- loaded from "/home/steve/Projects/XEmacs/Builds/21.4/lisp/menubar.elc" (get-popup-menu-response MENU-DESC &optional EVENT) Documentation: Pop up the given menu and wait for a response. This blocks until the response is received, and returns the misc-user event that encapsulates the response. To execute it, you can do (funcall (event-function response) (event-object response)) If no response was received, nil is returned. MENU-DESC and EVENT are as in the call to `popup-menu'. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Says nothing about "enqueue", and clearly implies that it won't be enqueued by the comment about "you can". See also `popup-menu-and-execute-in-window'. Andy> fn is applied to data all hell breaks loose. If I put debug Andy> code in menubar-msw.c I can see this happening. Probably menubar-msw is being too helpful, and automatically enqueuing. >> So you're going to have to figure out how that thing is getting >> executed, because it's not happenning in Lisp, and evidently it >> doesn't happen on X. Andy> I still don't see why it doesn't happen on X. Because the API as documented above says (implies, that this is not made clear is a bug) that it isn't supposed to. Andy> Also, whether it works under X or not seems irrelevant, the Andy> implementation is relying on some undocumented vagary of the Andy> runtime. Seems bogus to me. No, it's all documented, at least by implication and in context of other functions available. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Tue Nov 27 22:59:42 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA23423; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:59:10 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA23365 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:58:14 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168vqg-0007Yl-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:57:26 +0900 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: "Wrong type argument" with Update Package Index References: <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 28 Nov 2001 12:57:26 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87lmgrr1i1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> It happens when you don't have a SY> '~/.xemacs/package-index.LATEST.pgp' file. If the file can't SY> be found there, it should search SY> /lib/xemacs-/etc/, but it doesn't. SY> I can fix this easily (and in fact have), but I've got this SY> silly idea that I can fix the pgp stuff in the package tools SY> as well. I'd like to include that in the same patch. So the SY> fix is a day or so away. Oh yeah, that reminds me. The package tools will install directly into $prefix/lib/xemacs/lisp/$package under some circumstances. It's a problem with the sort-and-select-install-root algorithm there. Are you fixing that too? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 00:25:26 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA28283; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:25:04 -0500 Received: from kdk.net ([211.245.228.198]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA28252 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:24:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3249763-220011132851957495@kdk.net> X-EM-Version: 6, 0, 1, 0 X-EM-Registration: #00F06206106618006920 X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: dkdk@kdk.net Organization: d From: "xp" To: "xemacs-beta@xemacs.org" Subject: Have a nice day!!!!!!!!!!!! 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From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 00:49:17 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA30230; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:49:02 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA30157; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:47:58 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAS5lsV21594; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001240wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.71]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA26387; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:47:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127214151.00b1ef00@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:42:01 -0800 To: Steve Youngs , XEmacs Beta From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: "Wrong type argument" with Update Package Index In-Reply-To: References: <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 11:24 AM 11/28/01 +1000, Steve Youngs wrote: >Browsing the ChangeLog would suggest at least a year, possibly two. I've seen it for about that long. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 00:51:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA30310; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:51:01 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA30282; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:50:29 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAS5oPV21624; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:50:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001240wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.71]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA26605; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:50:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127214355.00bb1100@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:44:32 -0800 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Customize question Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" In-Reply-To: <87u1vfr4uc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094504.00ba9700@san-francisco.beasys.com> <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094504.00ba9700@san-francisco.beasys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 11:45 AM 11/28/01 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >No, it's all documented, at least by implication and in context of >other functions available. You are indeed correct. Now I know how its supposed to work I'll take another look. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 01:21:42 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA31474; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:21:26 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA31368; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:19:17 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAS6JDV21966; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001240wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.71]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA28745; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:19:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127221020.00b8aa40@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:13:20 -0800 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Customize question Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "XEmacs Beta List" In-Reply-To: <87u1vfr4uc.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094504.00ba9700@san-francisco.beasys.com> <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <000601c176f8$cabdae00$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <87r8qkv6vk.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4.3.2.7.2.20011127094504.00ba9700@san-francisco.beasys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 11:45 AM 11/28/01 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Not according to the docs: > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >`get-popup-menu-response' is a compiled Lisp function > -- loaded from "/home/steve/Projects/XEmacs/Builds/21.4/lisp/menubar.elc" >(get-popup-menu-response MENU-DESC &optional EVENT) > >Documentation: >Pop up the given menu and wait for a response. >This blocks until the response is received, and returns the misc-user >event that encapsulates the response. To execute it, you can do > (funcall (event-function response) (event-object response)) >If no response was received, nil is returned. Right, but the way it acomplishes this is that the popup-menu enqueues the event and then get-popup-menu-response dequeues the event from unread-command-events relying on being able to get to it before the event was processed. Unfortunately, I think some of the modal loop code (or something) in mswindows can cause events to get processed in the meantime. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 02:10:54 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA01234; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:10:28 -0500 Received: from mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.171]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA01128 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:08:05 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-082.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.82]) by mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAS77tg25874 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:07:56 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fAS6x0RS026958; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:59:00 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: "Wrong type argument" with Update Package Index References: <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> <87lmgrr1i1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:59:00 +1000 In-Reply-To: <87lmgrr1i1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "28 Nov 2001 12:57:26 +0900") Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: SJT> Oh yeah, that reminds me. The package tools will install directly SJT> into $prefix/lib/xemacs/lisp/$package under some circumstances. It's SJT> a problem with the sort-and-select-install-root algorithm there. Are SJT> you fixing that too? I can certainly try. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 03:21:42 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA04882; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 03:21:30 -0500 Received: from mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.231]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA04786 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 03:19:05 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-082.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.82]) by mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAS8IsQ07826 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:18:55 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fAS8FUxS027636; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:15:30 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Updated packages in Pre-Release - Nov 28 From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:15:30 +1000 Message-ID: Lines: 163 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== dictionary-1.01-pkg.tar.gz edit-utils-1.71-pkg.tar.gz jde-1.31-pkg.tar.gz mail-lib-1.40-pkg.tar.gz vc-cc-1.17-pkg.tar.gz viper-1.29-pkg.tar.gz Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: ================================================== None Detailed Changes: ================ dictionary-1.01-pkg.tar.gz -------------------------- sync to 1.5.1 edit-utils-1.71-pkg.tar.gz -------------------------- 2001-11-27 Robert Fenk * man.el (Manual-use-rosetta-man): New. jde-1.31-pkg.tar.gz ------------------- 2001-10-14 Andy Piper * Sync to 2.2.8 mail-lib-1.40-pkg.tar.gz ------------------------ 2001-11-27 Simon Josefsson * sendmail.el (top-level): Don't require mail-abbrev. * mail-abbrevs.el (mail-abbrev-mailrc-file): Defun. Autoload. 2001-11-22 Simon Josefsson * sendmail.el (top-level): Require mail-abbrevs when compiling, for the `mail-abbrev-mailrc-file' macro. 2001-10-15 Simon Josefsson * smtpmail.el (smtpmail-via-smtp): Use `mail-envelope-from' in MAIL FROM. 2001-10-15 Simon Josefsson * smtpmail.el: Doc fix. * browse-url.el: Update maintainer. (browse-url-browser-function): Upcase "Galeon". 2001-10-13 Simon Josefsson * sendmail.el (sendmail-send-it): Fix local-variable-p arg. 2001-10-14 Andy Piper * browse-url.el (browse-url-browser-function): do the windows thing for cygwin. 2001-10-10 Simon Josefsson Emacs 21 sync. * sendmail.el (mail-aliases-setup): Don't autoload (autoloaded in mail-abbrev). (mail-font-lock-keywords): Delay evaluation of `mail-header-separator'. (mail-font-lock-keywords): Various changes. (mail-mode): Use `mail-mode-auto-fill' as `normal-auto-fill-function'. (mail-mode): Use `mail-mode-fill-function' as `fill-paragraph-function'. (mail-mode): Add `comment-start'. (mail-mode): Add `adaptive-fill-regexp'. (mail-mode): Add `adaptive-fill-first-line-regexp'. (mail-mode): Fix `paragraph-start' regexp. (sendmail-send-it): Copy `buffer-file-coding-system' over to temp buffer. (sendmail-send-it): Use `mail-header-end'. (sendmail-send-it): Better handling of empty subjects. (sendmail-send-it): Deliver in background (-odb) unless `mail-interactive'. (sendmail-send-it): Better detection of no recipients. (mail-indent-citation): Various fixes. (mail-recover): Default-directory is bound in `mail-mode', no need to do it twice. 2001-08-22 Stefan Monnier * sendmail.el (mail-mode): Use adaptive-fill-regexp. vc-cc-1.17-pkg.tar.gz --------------------- 2001-10-16 Michael Diers * vc.el (vc-cleardiff-command): Add new defvar. (vc-backend-diff): Use vc-cleardiff-command if non-nil. This change allows specification of an alternate diff command, yet retains the default behaviour of using cleartool. viper-1.29-pkg.tar.gz --------------------- 2001-10-13 Michael Kifer * viper-ex.el (ex-edit): make checks for modified buffer/file. (viper-get-ex-address-subr): more precise addr for the $ marker * viper-cmd.el: Fixed indentation. * viper.texi: Clarified that viper won't expand special symbols in search patterns. Typos. Installing These: ================ Manually: -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 04:32:43 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA08785; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 04:32:32 -0500 Received: from mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.175]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA08716 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 04:30:10 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-082.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.82]) by mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAS9U2J15322 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:30:03 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fAS9NmoZ027856; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:23:48 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: @AUCDIR in load-path References: <200111272343.PAA00506@mina.soco.agilent.com> <87667vsk63.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:23:48 +1000 In-Reply-To: <87667vsk63.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "28 Nov 2001 11:28:52 +0900") Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>>>"Darryl" == Darryl Okahata writes: Darryl> Steve Youngs wrote: >>>After looking at this, I can't see any reason why >>>"TeX-lisp-directory" shouldn't default to >>>'(locate-data-directory "auctex")'. >>> >>>Anyone disagree before I submit a patch? SJT> This doesn't work on GNU Emacs, does it? We really should do SJT> something that Per can incorporate upstream. Well, seeing as though the affected file is 'tex-site.el' (used for site specific customizations), I see no reason why upstream should even hear about it. If it will put you more at ease, I can backup the original file to 'tex-site.el.upstream'. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 05:19:50 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA10366; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 05:19:25 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA10310 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 05:17:40 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1691lt-0000RJ-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:16:53 +0900 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: @AUCDIR in load-path References: <200111272343.PAA00506@mina.soco.agilent.com> <87667vsk63.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 28 Nov 2001 19:16:52 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87wv0bnqsr.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> Well, seeing as though the affected file is 'tex-site.el' SY> (used for site specific customizations), I see no reason why SY> upstream should even hear about it. Because there are some customizations I (for Japanese TeX) need to do in that file, and I have used Per's configure engine for it. SY> If it will put you more at ease, I can backup the original SY> file to 'tex-site.el'. No, as you point out it's a site-specific file. I just think that since we have auto-autoloads and custom-loads, we should try to keep the upstream stuff as pristine as possible. Surely you've been party to some of the PSGML flamewars? If not, take a look for "Lennart Staflin" in the archives. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 05:23:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA10592; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 05:23:23 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.nortelnetworks.com [47.165.25.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA10376 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 05:19:39 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fASAJPB07277 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:19:26 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:18:44 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XYJT2X5M; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:17:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CB5F7; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:17:38 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1691nX-0006UX-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:18:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15364.47610.592329.117175@europe.nortel.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:18:34 +0100 To: kai uwe tempel CC: XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> References: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , kai uwe tempel writes: > Robert Pluim writes: > > temu@medizin.uni-leipzig.de writes: > > > XEmacs 21.4.5 "Civil Service" configured for `i386-debian-linux'. > > > > This is debian unstable, I imagine? > > that's right. (but it isn't really unstable :) > > > XEmacs 21.5 (beta3) works fine on the same machine). > > i tried to avoid to install non-.deb packed programs. even i know (and > tested) it works well (having 2 xemacs'es). > Ah, so this is the .deb you've installed? For some reason I thought you were compiling it yourself (especially as I can't find it in the standard unstable package list). > > Andy Piper writes: > > Please check that you are not suffering from Xaw3d installed as > > Xaw. I think debian is particularly susceptible to this. > > installed "as" xaw? i don't know. > 8<-- > ../b # dpkg -l xaw* I don't think this is the problem in this case. > > This turns out to be the -z combreloc crash, which I'd > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > can i check this? where can i read about this? If you look in the xemacs-beta archives it's described there. Don't worry about it, your XEmacs is not suffering from that problem, mine was. > sorry, by xemacs has no symbol table compiled in. i have to rebuild > it: the only one i'd done was "cvs-status" and input the repository > 8<-- > ../b # gdb /usr/bin/xemacs-21.4.5-nomule > GNU gdb 5.0.90-cvs (MI_OUT) > [... ] (gdb) run > Starting program: /usr/bin/xemacs-21.4.5-nomule > (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... > [...] > (no debugging symbols found)... > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x40197de0 in XDrawLine () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > (gdb) quit Whee! I can reproduce this, and it's the progress gauge falling over. Andy, is there any useful info I can give you here? There are two workarounds: 1. put (setq progress-feedback-use-echo-area t) in your .emacs file. 2. Install lesstif and lesstif-dev and recompile XEmacs > > ps: lots of thanks for your fast response. That's what we're paid for ;-) Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 06:14:39 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA12808; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:14:29 -0500 Received: from helms1.oplayo.com (kone2.oplayo.com [212.149.66.3]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA12646 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:12:11 -0500 Received: from liver.oplayo.com (192.168.0.21 [192.168.0.21]) by helms1.oplayo.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W9SL77K6; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:09:45 +0200 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: file-confirm-mode From: Pekka Marjola X-Face: "x]DXM_Ncu}[%-P>1t{=Nul(4)\>1F{./o-!W?-mksQA(&s35;oDrvT$XCkw+7Xyh8\5,urgQE3=j}l%9FM X-Attribution: Pema Organization: ORC/Alter Ego/Men in Black Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:14:24 +0200 Message-ID: <87oflnkuzz.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Here's a minor mode to avoid opening buffers for non-existing files like "foo.", when "foo.c" and "foo.h" exist, and to avoid duplicate frames. Use it by running following: (require 'file-confirm) ; or generate auto-autoloads (turn-on-file-confim) If there's interest, this could be added to suitable package. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=file-confirm.el Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: file-confirm-mode ;;; file-confirm.el --- Confirm creation of duplicate frames ;; Copyright (c) 2000-2001 Pekka Marjola ;; Author: Pekka Marjola ;; Keywords: file, frame ;; Version: 0.8 ;; This file is not part of XEmacs. ;; This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify ;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by ;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) ;; any later version. ;; ;; This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, ;; but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of ;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the ;; GNU General Public License for more details. ;; ;; A copy of the GNU General Public License can be obtained from this ;; program's author (send electronic mail to pema@iki.fi) or from ;; the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA ;; 02139, USA. ;; ;; Send bug reports to pema@iki.fi ;; Created: 2.4.2000 ;; $Modified: Wed Nov 28 13:12:07 2001 by pema $ ;;; Commentary: ;; Some utility functions to avoid creation of extra frames or buffers ;; unnecessarily. ;; ;; Tested so far only in XEmacs-21.1.4. ;; Requires custom. ;; Most likely does not work in GNU Emacs. ;;; Code: (defgroup file-confirm nil "Confirmation for finding non-existing files and creation of duplicate frames." :group 'files :prefix "file-confirm-") ;;;###autoload (defcustom file-confirm-warp-mouse t "*If non-nil, warp mouse when using an old frame. This is contrary to ICCCM, but may be useful." :group 'file-confirm :type 'boolean) (defconst file-confirm-version "0.8" "Version of file-confirm package.") (defcustom file-confirm-mode nil "*If non-nil, activates file-confirm-mode." :type 'boolean :require 'file-confirm :group 'file-confirm) ;;;###autoload (defcustom file-confirm-mode-line-string " FC" "*Modeline indicator for file-confirm." :group 'file-confirm :type 'string) ;;;###autoload (defvar file-confirm-mode-map nil "Keymap for file-confirm minor mode.") (defcustom file-confirm-mode-hook nil "*List of functions to call when entering file-confirm minor mode." :group 'file-confirm :type 'hook) (defcustom file-confirm-load-hook nil "*List of functions to call after loading file-confirm." :group 'file-confirm :type 'hook) ;;;###autoload (if file-confirm-mode-map nil (setq file-confirm-mode-map (make-sparse-keymap "file-confirm-map")) (define-key file-confirm-mode-map [(control x) ?5 f] 'find-file-frame-or-file) (define-key file-confirm-mode-map [(control x) (control f)] 'find-file-confirm-non-existing) (define-key file-confirm-mode-map [(control x) ?5 b] 'switch-to-frame-or-buffer-other-frame)) ;;;###autoload (defun find-file-frame-or-file (file) "If a frame is already showing the file, show the frame, if the file is in a buffer, open a new frame for buffer. Otherwise open the file in a new frame." (interactive "FFind file in other frame: ") (find-file-frame-or-file-internal file)) (defun find-file-frame-or-file-internal (file) (let ((buf (find-buffer-visiting file))) (if buf ;; Must use get-buffer-window-list or sothing that allows specifying ;; parameters for walk-windows to get all frames. frames-of-buffer ;; does not work. Insane! (let* ((window (get-buffer-window-list buf nil 0)) (frm (and window (window-frame (car window))))) (if (and frm (y-or-n-p (concat "Show " file " in existing frame instead? "))) (progn (make-frame-visible frm) ;;(focus-frame frm) ;; Against ICCCM, but... (when file-confirm-warp-mouse (while (not (frame-visible-p frm)) (sleep-for .5)) (set-mouse-position (car window) 2 2))) (find-file-other-frame file))) (if (or (file-exists-p file) (y-or-n-p (concat "File " file " does not exist, visit anyway? "))) ;; Really, I should set the focus here, too(?) (find-file-other-frame file) ;; fake "dir" argument to get the default prompt (find-file-frame-or-file-internal (read-file-name "Find file in other frame: " file file))) ))) ;;;###autoload (defun find-file-confirm-non-existing (file) "Ask for confirmation, before calling find-file for non-existing files." (interactive "FFind file: ") (find-file-confirm-non-existing-internal file)) (defun find-file-confirm-non-existing-internal (file) (if (or (file-exists-p file) (y-or-n-p (concat "File " file " does not exist, visit anyway? "))) (find-file file) ;; fake "dir" argument to get the default prompt (find-file-confirm-non-existing-internal (read-file-name "Find file in other frame: " file file)))) ;;;###autoload (defun switch-to-frame-or-buffer-other-frame (buffer) "Switch to buffer BUFFER in a newly-created frame." (interactive "BSwitch to buffer in other frame: ") (let* ((name (get-frame-name-for-buffer buffer)) (window (get-buffer-window-list buffer nil 0)) (frm (and window (window-frame (car window))))) (if (and frm (y-or-n-p (concat "Show " buffer " in existing frame instead? "))) t (setq frm (make-frame (if name (list (cons 'name (symbol-name name)))))) (pop-to-buffer buffer t frm) (setq window (get-buffer-window-list buffer nil 0))) (make-frame-visible frm) ;;(focus-frame frm) ;; Against ICCCM, but... (when file-confirm-warp-mouse (while (not (frame-visible-p frm)) (sleep-for .5)) (set-mouse-position (car window) 2 2)) buffer)) ;;;###autoload (defun file-confirm-mode (&optional arg) "Toggle file-confirm minor mode. With arg, turn file-confirm mode on iff arg is positive. When file-confirm mode is enabled, the editor asks for confirmation before opening buffers for non-existing files and tries to use existing frame, if a frame is already showing requested file or buffer. Special commands: \\ key binding --- ------- \\[find-file-frame-or-file] find-file-frame-or-file \\[find-file-confirm-non-existing] find-file-confirm-non-existing \\[switch-to-frame-or-buffer-other-frame] switch-to-frame-or-buffer-other-frame " (interactive "*P") (setq file-confirm-mode (if (null arg) (not file-confirm-mode) (> (prefix-numeric-value arg) 0))) (when file-confirm-mode (run-hooks 'file-confirm-mode-hook))) ;;;###autoload (defun turn-on-file-confirm () "Unconditionally turn on File-confirm mode." (interactive) (file-confirm-mode 1)) ;;;###autoload (when (fboundp 'add-minor-mode) ;; XEmacs (add-minor-mode 'file-confirm-mode file-confirm-mode-line-string file-confirm-mode-map)) ;; Emacs -- don't autoload (unless (assq 'file-confirm-mode minor-mode-alist) (setq minor-mode-alist (cons '(file-confirm-mode file-confirm-mode-line-string) minor-mode-alist))) (run-hooks 'file-confirm-load-hook) (provide 'file-confirm) --=-=-= -- pema@iki.fi * http://www.iki.fi/pema/ Sagakeeper (Ars Magica web tool) 1.2.0 http://www.sagakeeper.com/ pin (emacs startup) 0.41 http://www.iki.fi/pema/emacs/ zbkrc (shell startup) 0.22 http://www.iki.fi/pema/zbkrc/ --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 06:45:37 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA14410; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:45:25 -0500 Received: from postal.sim.ucm.es (postal.sim.ucm.es [147.96.1.222]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA14295 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:43:39 -0500 Received: from sunma2.mat.ucm.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maraton.sim.ucm.es (PMDF V6.1 #38870) with SMTP id <0GNI0C62EDWF18@maraton.sim.ucm.es> for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:43:28 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:40:03 +0000 From: Uwe Brauer X-Face: ""xJff%{>hr-{:QXl"Xk2O@@(+F]e{"%EYQiW@mUuvEsL>=mx96j12qW[%m;|:B^n{J8k?Mz[K1_+H;$v,nYx^1o_=4M,L+]FIU~[[`-w~~xsy-BX,?tAF_.8u&0y*@aCv;a}Y'{w@#*@iwAl?oZpvvv Subject: file-confirm-mode In-reply-to: <87oflnkuzz.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> To: Pekka Marjola Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Reply-to: Uwe Brauer Message-id: <15364.56099.47214.836787@sunma2.mat.ucm.es> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 9-beta-11 I); VM 6.99 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <87oflnkuzz.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Pekka Marjola writes: > Here's a minor mode to avoid opening buffers for non-existing files > like "foo.", when "foo.c" and "foo.h" exist, and to avoid duplicate > frames. > > Use it by running following: > > (require 'file-confirm) ; or generate auto-autoloads > (turn-on-file-confim) > > If there's interest, this could be added to suitable package. > > Hi I just played a little around (xemacs-21.1.14) and it is quite nifty. So far I only find a little confusing the following phrase "File does not exist, visit anyway" I suggest to use "open" instead. I can not remember to have seen this in gnu.emacs.source, I also suggest to send it there. Uwe Brauer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 07:58:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA18040; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:58:24 -0500 Received: from posti2.jyu.fi (posti2.jyu.fi [130.234.4.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA17941 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:56:12 -0500 Received: from tukki.cc.jyu.fi (tukki.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.4.100]) by posti2.jyu.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3/antispam) with ESMTP id fASCu9b11823; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:56:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (jaa@localhost) by tukki.cc.jyu.fi (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fASCuAH28610; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:56:10 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: tukki.cc.jyu.fi: jaa owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:56:10 +0200 (EET) From: Jani Averbach To: cc: Subject: Re: Fw: some shit here ?! In-Reply-To: <200111281227.HAA16247@gwyn.tux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 tarasov@kubstu.ru wrote: > Date: Wed,28 Nov 2001 15:32:01 -0000 > From: tarasov@kubstu.ru > To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > Subject: Fw: some shit here ?! > > peace > The original message contains virus. http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/aliz.shtml BR, Jani --- Jani Averbach From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 07:29:49 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA16352; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:29:36 -0500 Received: from mail.kubstu.ru ([217.147.2.135]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA16247 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:27:49 -0500 From: tarasov@kubstu.ru Message-Id: <200111281227.HAA16247@gwyn.tux.org> Received: (qmail 8633 invoked by uid 0); 28 Nov 2001 12:12:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (217.147.2.143) by 217.147.2.135 with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 12:12:52 -0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Fw: some shit here ?! 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(jas@localhost) by slipsten.extundo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fASDFRi06505; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:15:27 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: slipsten.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:15:27 +0100 (CET) From: Simon Josefsson To: Steve Youngs cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated packages in Pre-Release - Nov 28 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Steve Youngs wrote: > Hey there everyone. > > I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' > directory: >... > mail-lib-1.40-pkg.tar.gz Great, thank you! From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 08:29:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA20185; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:29:24 -0500 Received: from mail004.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail004.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.228]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19893; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:24:41 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240]) by mail004.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fASDOdJ16010; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:24:40 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15364.59106.498492.282960@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:30:10 +1000 To: Steve Youngs Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated packages in Pre-Release - Nov 28 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Rendhalver (Peter Brown)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > Hey there everyone. > > I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' > directory: > > New Packages in Pre-Release: > =========================== > dictionary-1.01-pkg.tar.gz > edit-utils-1.71-pkg.tar.gz > jde-1.31-pkg.tar.gz > mail-lib-1.40-pkg.tar.gz > vc-cc-1.17-pkg.tar.gz > viper-1.29-pkg.tar.gz > hey steve all installed fine on my FreeBSD 4.4 box running 21.4.6rc1 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter (Rendhalver) XEmacs Advocate http://www.xemacs.org/ Perl Hacker http://www.perl.com/ Apache God http://httpd.apache.org/ FreeBSD Devote http://www.FreeBSD.org/ rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net do not try and bend the spoon, thats impossible. but try to realise the truth. and that is? there is no spoon. - Neo and child Prodigy - The Matrix ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 08:32:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA20395; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:32:26 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19936; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:25:59 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1694i5-0000pZ-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:25:09 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-nt@xemacs.org Subject: Potential interruption of service (installing virus filter) Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 28 Nov 2001 22:25:09 +0900 Message-ID: <87d72381u2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I've been testing some simple virus filters on some of our admin and low bandwidth lists, and getting quite good success (both alpha and beta are _zero_ for y days). So I'm going to install it on xemacs-beta and xemacs-nt now, and our other lists over the next few days. I don't expect any problems. Still, wish us luck. :-) Some of you have postmasters who will be hearing from me. I am quite sick of seeing "You sent nice-user@losing.domain.tld mail containing a virus" with no headers or identifying marks, not even a message-id. Oh well, those are the joys of running an open list in a hostile world. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 08:48:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA21811; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:48:23 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.nortelnetworks.com [47.165.25.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA21691 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:46:35 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fASDkUB03114 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:46:30 GMT Received: from znsgy0k8.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:45:59 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by znsgy0k8.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XYXLNWXH; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:44:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CB5JK; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:44:53 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16952A-0006aU-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:45:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15364.60050.724000.933036@europe.nortel.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:45:54 +0100 To: kai uwe tempel CC: XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <15364.57899.87327.976419@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> References: <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15364.47610.592329.117175@europe.nortel.com> <15364.57899.87327.976419@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , kai uwe tempel writes: > Robert Pluim writes: > > 2. Install lesstif and lesstif-dev and recompile XEmacs > > > this does not help. xemacs even crashes. Damn. It works for me. Did it give you a backtrace? > --------------------- > an other question: who my i ask for a problem in pcl-cvs: ? > it does not list the files in subdirectories since version R-2_0-XXXX. > --------------------- The maintainer is listed in pcl-cvs.el as: (Stefan Monnier) monnier+lists/cvs/pcl@flint.cs.yale.edu so he's probably a good person to start with. Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 08:02:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18234; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:02:22 -0500 Received: from mail.kubstu.ru ([217.147.2.135]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA18031 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:58:18 -0500 From: tarasov@kubstu.ru Message-Id: <200111281258.HAA18031@gwyn.tux.org> Received: (qmail 16060 invoked by uid 0); 28 Nov 2001 12:42:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (217.147.2.143) by 217.147.2.135 with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 12:42:56 -0000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Hot urls i found ?! 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gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA23220 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:05:44 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23215 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:05:43 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1695KF-0000xG-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:04:35 +0900 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Testing Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 28 Nov 2001 23:04:35 +0900 Message-ID: <878zcr800c.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , If you can read this, then at least we're not getting all false positives. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 09:53:28 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27395; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:53:08 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA27343 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:52:36 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA27339 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:52:36 -0500 Received: from mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.175]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27333 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:52:35 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-082.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.82]) by mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fASEqWJ17450 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:52:32 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fASEorEP029103; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:50:53 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated packages in Pre-Release - Nov 28 References: <15364.59106.498492.282960@ulthwe.dyndns.org> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:50:52 +1000 In-Reply-To: <15364.59106.498492.282960@ulthwe.dyndns.org> (Peter Brown's message of "Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:30:10 +1000") Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "PB" == Peter Brown writes: PB> Steve Youngs writes: >>Hey there everyone. >> >>I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' >>directory: PB> hey steve PB> all installed fine on my FreeBSD 4.4 box running 21.4.6rc1 Great, thanks, Peter. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 09:55:40 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27587; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:55:39 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA27359 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:52:40 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA27355 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:52:40 -0500 Received: from mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.175]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27347 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:52:37 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-082.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.82]) by mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fASEqUJ17412 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:52:30 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fASEmPpE029099; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:48:25 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated packages in Pre-Release - Nov 28 References: From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:48:25 +1000 In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:15:27 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "SJ" == Simon Josefsson writes: SJ> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Steve Youngs wrote: >>I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' >>... >>mail-lib-1.40-pkg.tar.gz SJ> Great, thank you! You're welcome. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 11:10:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA32735; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:10:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA32574 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:08:17 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA32570 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:08:17 -0500 Received: from exchange.cs.cornell.edu (exchange.cs.cornell.edu [128.84.97.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA32561 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:08:13 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: xemacs-21.4.6rc1 netinstall go boom - regexp core dump Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:08:12 -0500 Message-ID: <706871B20764CD449DB0E8E3D81C4D43022FE9E6@opus.cs.cornell.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: xemacs-21.4.6rc1 netinstall go boom - regexp core dump Thread-Index: AcF4Jk4437k7YfwxTs2mg6yk6uANmwAAFoTg From: "Paul Stodghill" To: "Xemacs-Beta@Xemacs.Org (E-mail)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gwyn.tux.org id LAA32561 X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , The problem occurs under the netinstall of 21.4.5 also. I should also mention (it's in "system-info.txt") that this is all under Cygwin/Win2k. > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Stodghill > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:04 AM > To: Xemacs-Beta@Xemacs.Org (E-mail) > Subject: xemacs-21.4.6rc1 netinstall go boom - regexp core dump > > > The attached file "compilation-buffer.txt" is the contents of > a compilation buffer that, when "(next-error)" is evaluated > causes xemacs-21.4.6rc1 (netinstall) to core dump. > > "error-output.txt" is a terminal session illustrating the problem. > > "system-info.txt" contains information about the XEmacs configuration. > > Please let me know if you need more information. > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 11:06:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA32415; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:06:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA32353 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:05:02 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA32349 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:05:02 -0500 Received: from exchange.cs.cornell.edu (exchange.cs.cornell.edu [128.84.97.8]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA32341 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:04:57 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C17826.4F24F9E1" Subject: xemacs-21.4.6rc1 netinstall go boom - regexp core dump Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:04:07 -0500 Message-ID: <706871B20764CD449DB0E8E3D81C4D4301FE44A6@opus.cs.cornell.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: xemacs-21.4.6rc1 netinstall go boom - regexp core dump Thread-Index: AcF4Jk4437k7YfwxTs2mg6yk6uANmw== From: "Paul Stodghill" To: "Xemacs-Beta@Xemacs.Org (E-mail)" X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C17826.4F24F9E1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The attached file "compilation-buffer.txt" is the contents of a compilation buffer that, when "(next-error)" is evaluated causes xemacs-21.4.6rc1 (netinstall) to core dump. "error-output.txt" is a terminal session illustrating the problem. "system-info.txt" contains information about the XEmacs configuration. 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(Exim 3.13 #0) id 1697v2-0006fx-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:50:44 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1697zD-0000PY-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:55:03 +0000 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-nt@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available References: <877ksjd0ze.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.5-b3 (GTK) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 28 Nov 2001 16:55:03 +0000 In-Reply-To: <877ksjd0ze.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "22 Nov 2001 10:54:13 +0900") Message-ID: <87n116j0ns.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 24 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: [...] > Main features to be tested: > > 1) A fix for the "can't frob italic face" bug. YMMV, but I at least > can now vary the size and family of italic. All hail Jan Vroonhof. > > 2) Some pearls for the GTK crowd, maybe. GTK faces will now get > initialized, courtesy of John Paul Wallington. John fears that > this then breaks face customization in some other way, but I > don't see how. He did not have Jan's patch, so perhaps things > are really all right now. Please test and let me know. It did break face customization, and it still does. Jan's patch doesn't make a difference. I've found that if the set-face-background/foreground forms within gtk-init-device-faces aren't passed the gtk device as the optional locale argument then subsequent customization of the default faces do have a visible effect. I posted a patch to xemacs-patches that just comments them out, which is yukky but works. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 12:21:40 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05496; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:21:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA05451 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:20:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA05447 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:20:37 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05443 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:20:36 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fASHKWV04278; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:20:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001232wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.63]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08036; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:20:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:14:33 -0800 To: Robert Pluim , kai uwe tempel From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: crash Cc: XEmacs Developers In-Reply-To: <15364.47610.592329.117175@europe.nortel.com> References: <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 11:18 AM 11/28/01 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: >Whee! I can reproduce this, and it's the progress gauge falling >over. Andy, is there any useful info I can give you here? So its failing with athena? Please check you haven't got some weird 3d package installed. I thought Debian was particularly bad at getting this right? andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 12:26:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05834; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:26:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA05585 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:22:29 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA05581 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:22:28 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05576 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:22:28 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fASHMOV04358; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001232wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.63]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08444; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:22:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091616.00ba7790@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:16:29 -0800 To: "Paul Stodghill" , "Xemacs-Beta@Xemacs.Org (E-mail)" From: Andy Piper Subject: RE: xemacs-21.4.6rc1 netinstall go boom - regexp core dump In-Reply-To: <706871B20764CD449DB0E8E3D81C4D43022FE9E6@opus.cs.cornell.e du> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I missed this. Can you repost the file? Thanks andy At 11:08 AM 11/28/01 -0500, Paul Stodghill wrote: >The problem occurs under the netinstall of 21.4.5 also. > >I should also mention (it's in "system-info.txt") that this is all under >Cygwin/Win2k. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Stodghill > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:04 AM > > To: Xemacs-Beta@Xemacs.Org (E-mail) > > Subject: xemacs-21.4.6rc1 netinstall go boom - regexp core dump > > > > > > The attached file "compilation-buffer.txt" is the contents of > > a compilation buffer that, when "(next-error)" is evaluated > > causes xemacs-21.4.6rc1 (netinstall) to core dump. > > > > "error-output.txt" is a terminal session illustrating the problem. > > > > "system-info.txt" contains information about the XEmacs configuration. > > > > Please let me know if you need more information. > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 13:20:18 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09086; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:20:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA09038 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:19:42 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA09034 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:19:42 -0500 Received: from hermes.epita.fr (hermes.epita.fr [163.5.255.10]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09029 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:19:39 -0500 Received: from goa.lrde.epita.fr (mail@goa.lrde.epita.fr [10.223.13.2]) by hermes.epita.fr id fASJK5r27966 for EPITA Paris France Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:20:05 GMT Received: from uzeb.lrde.epita.fr ([10.223.13.53] ident=mail) by goa.lrde.epita.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1699Ih-0004wN-00 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:19:15 +0100 Received: from didier by uzeb.lrde.epita.fr with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1699Ig-00071t-00 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:19:14 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta Testers Subject: a user suggestion for rect.el X-Attribution: drv X-Url: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier X-Web: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier X-Home-Page: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier Message-ID: X-Face: |j}\)O|k##MrRz#VK$Jy=0r=3Qc,,a/Tr6*JQbE73dy17]2YcmW$9Z&H21e}#~#pgc>dn(is5Bv1l!{1re+Q9suKIOUmOqZs2>QMxHlR;;}kaGYA@HR3D C6 X-Face: 6o|eiKqaHN.ANh8HXDzntcWUOCg\]RsOd.ctvm~*y}Y^R&*a+Co,\s#=HWsw3x$b_n2kJ#g (7u?J^@^xP)f,jUF|0Z'J:|G/bMA5O12*b,7`-Q`=pKsCRIpso07.Y>YB2H{7`?u&yh;C_ZtLHfj Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:19:14 +0100 Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= What do you think about that ? It's ok with me (I like the proposed key binding). Unless there are any objection, I'll apply a patch to implement this. --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=478 X-From-Line: gse@antisleep.com Wed Nov 07 00:49:58 2001 Return-path: Envelope-to: didier@uzeb.lrde.epita.fr Delivery-date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 00:49:58 +0100 Received: from goa.lrde.epita.fr ([10.223.13.2] ident=mail) by uzeb.lrde.epita.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161Fyg-00029g-00 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 00:49:58 +0100 Received: from smtp.epita.fr ([163.5.255.10] helo=hermes.epita.fr) by goa.lrde.epita.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161Fva-0006sB-00 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 00:46:46 +0100 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by hermes.epita.fr id fA70nh123714 for EPITA Paris France Wed, 7 Nov 2001 00:49:44 GMT Received: from herndon11.his.com (herndon11.his.com [209.67.207.4]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA28685 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 18:49:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (antisleep@localhost) by herndon11.his.com (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fA6NnjC12146 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 18:49:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 18:49:45 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Evans X-X-Sender: antisleep@herndon11.his.com To: didier@xemacs.org Subject: rect.el suggestion X-Gnus-Mail-Source: file:~/.mbox Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 11 Xref: uzeb.lrde.epita.fr xemacs-personal:478 Hi Didier. Glad to have replace-rectangle in rect.el -- how about making it autoload, and adding a keybinding to keydefs.el? (fwiw, I use "C-x r p") -- scott evans www.antisleep.com --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -- Didier Verna, didier@lrde.epita.fr, http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier EPITA / LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel.+33 (1) 53 14 59 47 94276 Le Kremlin-Bic=EAtre, France Fax.+33 (1) 53 14 59 22 didier@xemac= s.org --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 13:24:22 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09348; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:24:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA09108 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:20:09 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA09104 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:20:09 -0500 Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09094; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:20:06 -0500 Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1699JS-0003xr-0E; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:20:02 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.6.254]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1699JB-1ojmAyC; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:19:45 +0100 To: XEmacs Beta List Subject: ["Paquette, Dany" ] multi user installation X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Lines: 104 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --=-=-= Any recommendations? Adrian --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline X-From-Line: dany.paquette@emergis.com Wed Nov 28 11:48:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([207.96.122.8]) by mailin06.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1697vW-13HSroa; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:51:14 +0100 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02967; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:49:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA02956 for xemacs-webmaint-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:48:46 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA02952 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:48:46 -0500 Received: (from xemacweb@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA02943 for xemacs-webmaint@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:48:46 -0500 Received: from pmamtsi1.mtl.bceemergis.com (smtp1.emergis.com [192.139.197.95]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02934 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:48:37 -0500 Received: from mail-mpact-net.bceemergis.com (mail.mpact.net [204.19.168.201]) by pmamtsi1.mtl.bceemergis.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06437 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by MAIL.MPACT.NET.bceemergis.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:48:30 -0500 Message-ID: <7A423A16C9083341A1240FF22BF71D84069AD1@MTL-MAIL-03.bceemergis.com> From: "Paquette, Dany" To: "'webmaster@xemacs.org'" Subject: multi user installation Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:48:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-XEmacs-List: webmaint Sender: xemacs-webmaint-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-webmaint-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-webmaint@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , X-Content-Length: 1801 Lines: 67 Xref: D5DC120J xemacs-webmaint:1804 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===-=-=" --===-=-= Hello Webmaster I download xemacs 21.4.5 and all the packages needed, I have compiled it with --prefix=/opt/ABCxemacs and I have made a package from all those files. THe problem I am having is that I don't know to what owner/permission I should set all the files in order to be accessible from any user that connect on my ultra5 server? any Idea? Feedback from /Install/index.html --===-=-= Content-Type: text/html multi user installation

Hello Webmaster

I download xemacs 21.4.5 and all the packages needed, I have compiled it with --prefix=/opt/ABCxemacs
and I have made a package from all those files.

THe problem I am having is that I don't know to what owner/permission I should set all the files in order to be accessible from any user that connect on my ultra5 server?

any Idea?


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--===-=-=-- --=-=-= -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ --=-=-=-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 13:39:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10486; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:39:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA10424 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:38:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA10420 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:38:23 -0500 Received: from mailrelay.cacheflow.com (mailrelay.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10416 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:38:21 -0500 Received: from cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com (cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.25]) by mailrelay.cacheflow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03334 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:38:17 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:38:17 -0800 Message-Id: <200111281838.KAA03334@mailrelay.cacheflow.com> Received: from hauerpc.cacheflow.com ([10.253.221.14]) by cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XYG9X7QA; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:37:10 -0800 From: "David M. Karr" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" thinks it's an FTP location X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! This morning I upgraded my Cygwin from 1.3.2 to 1.3.5, and my XEmacs from 21.4.3 to 21.4.6rc1. Now, when I try to execute something in a shell buffer, I'm seeing very unusual delays before I see the first line of output from the shell command. If I just press Return and do nothing else, it takes somewhere in the range of 15-20 seconds before the output appears, even for a simple "ls .bash*" in my $HOME, that lists 7 files when it finally runs. However, if I press Return and then immediately move either the text cursor or the mouse cursor, the output appears as soon as I do that. (What is the significance of the "uname -a" output that was generated below this? It does not match my system.) ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. Using MS-Windows menubars. Using MS-Windows scrollbars. Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. Using MS-Windows native widgets. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for file coding. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/home/david.karr/ntlisp/compile2/compile /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/compile) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.11 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.05 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) (viper :version 1.28 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (vhdl :version 1.13 :type regular) (vc-cc :version 1.16 :type regular) (vc :version 1.28 :type regular) (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.29 :type regular) (time :version 1.11 :type regular) (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.32 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.18 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) (speedbar :version 1.21 :type regular) (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) (sh-script :version 1.13 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.11 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.12 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.23 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) (ps-print-nomule :version 1.05 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .42 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.55 :type regular) (pc :version 1.2 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.25 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) (misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.13 :type regular) (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.09 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) (jde :version 1.3 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.23 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.19 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.23 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.16 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.57 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.12 :type regular) (games :version 1.13 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (forms :version 1.13 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.13 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.34 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.01 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.08 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.01 :type regular) (eicq :version 1.05 :type regular) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.0 :type regular) (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.02 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Features: -------- (view-less view xemacsbug shadow hyper-apropos debug sh-script skeleton executable efs-x19.15 efs-fnh efs-ovwrt efs-netrc efs-defun efs efs-dump efs-cu package-ui package-get package-admin config psgml-xemacs sgml-mode psgml cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles cc-langs cc-vars wid-edit cc-menus imenu cc-defs message-x cperl-mode analog ps-print msb mail-source format-spec message messagexmas mml mm-decode mm-encode mailcap mm-bodies uudecode mail-parse rfc2045 rfc2231 rfc2047 gnus-util qp ietf-drums time-date parse-time mail-abbrevs nnheader nnheaderxm mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils mailheader smtpmail rfc2104 starttls time-stamp sendmail idl-font-lock supercite mail-extr regi font-lock shell comint ring gnuserv rsz-minibuf filladapt compile2 compile request-directory generic-filter command-window window-manip-fns hlist declare-object env buffer-cycle time ffap paren mic-paren timer ecb ecb-help ecb-util ecb-mode-line ecb-layout advice advice-preload tree-buffer overlay semantic-load semantic-util cus-face assoc semantic working edmacro iswitchb zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-nomule-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- r t - e m TAB RET F i l e SPC c o m p l e t i o n SPC o n SPC " / c / " SPC w o r k s , SPC b u t C-x o C-h k C-x C-f q C-x o C-x o SPC " f i n d - f i l e " Sh-SPC t h i n k s SPC i t ' s SPC F T P C-x n a n SPC q C-x o C-x b C-g M-x M-p RET M-p q M-x M-p RET Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Parsing /home/david.karr/.mailrc... Entering debugger... Quit n not defined. Entering debugger... Loading view-less...done Loading view-less... Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Quit Kill ftp process and buffer? (y or n, c to only close process) CWD'ing to /anonymous@c:/cygwin/home/david.karr/.bash_profile/... Making completion list... Making completion list... History item: 1 Loading hyper-apropos...done Loading hyper-apropos... Entering debugger... Loading debug...done Loading debug... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 13:58:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12031; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:58:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA11908 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:57:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA11904 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:57:12 -0500 Received: from seapine.com ([216.23.11.247]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11899 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:57:12 -0500 Received: from balder2.seapine.com [192.168.1.200] by seapine.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.0.R) for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:52:24 -0500 Received: from balder2.seapine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder2.seapine.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fASIow2p002004 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:50:58 -0500 Received: (from dalcorn@localhost) by balder2.seapine.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) id fASIowNm002000; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:50:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: balder2.seapine.com: dalcorn set sender to lathi@seapine.com using -f To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: gtk-xemacs status and bug database/list X-Url: http://www.lathi.net X-Face: +GT&`y}rSVHq>&PvSIvtsy^RC6Agyxq)t+25D#'iTroOnA/'pcE$QD*WU1=WLS*OC\0y-kS |k+)w~x Date: 28 Nov 2001 13:50:58 -0500 Message-ID: <87wv0a3f1p.fsf@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Copyleft) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.1.200 X-Return-Path: lathi@seapine.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Off the http://www.xemacs.org/ page there is a link to Bill P's site for GTK-Xemacs. That page is quite old and in no way reflects what I know the status to be. Is there a better link to see what the status is? I'm considering switching from Athena to GTK. I'm just not sure what isn't going to work right. Since this will be for daily/production use I'd like to know without going through the effort of building and installing. I can certainly live with some bugs/missing features; I just need to know what they are. On a related note, is there a bug list for xemacs? The main site has a "search for problems" that just points to this list. Would setting up something like bugzilla be usefull? -- (__) Doug Alcorn (mailto:doug@lathi.net http://www.lathi.net) oo / PGP 02B3 1E26 BCF2 9AAF 93F1 61D7 450C B264 3E63 D543 |_/ If you're a capitalist and you have the best goods and they're free, you don't have to proselytize, you just have to wait. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 14:21:21 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13739; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:21:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA13676 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:20:13 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA13672 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:20:13 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13657 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:20:04 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fASJJtV11050; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001232wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.63]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA06688; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:19:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128111344.00b8b200@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:14:01 -0800 To: "David M. Karr" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" thinks it's an FTP location In-Reply-To: <200111281838.KAA03334@mailrelay.cacheflow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Can you narrow down which upgrade is causing the problem? Thanks andy -0800, David M. Karr wrote: >This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, > not to your local site managers!! >Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have >translators to read other languages for them. > > >Please describe as succinctly as possible: > - What happened. > - What you thought should have happened. > - Precisely what you were doing at the time. > >Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. >================================================================ >Dear Bug Team! > >This morning I upgraded my Cygwin from 1.3.2 to 1.3.5, and my XEmacs from >21.4.3 to 21.4.6rc1. > >Now, when I try to execute something in a shell buffer, I'm seeing very >unusual >delays before I see the first line of output from the shell command. If I >just >press Return and do nothing else, it takes somewhere in the range of 15-20 >seconds before the output appears, even for a simple "ls .bash*" in my $HOME, >that lists 7 files when it finally runs. > >However, if I press Return and then immediately move either the text cursor or >the mouse cursor, the output appears as soon as I do that. > >(What is the significance of the "uname -a" output that was generated below >this? It does not match my system.) > >================================================================ > >System Info to help track down your bug: >--------------------------------------- > >uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686 unknown > >./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' >'--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' >'--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' > > >XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. > > >Compilation / Installation: > Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4 > Installation prefix: /usr/local > Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/../include/noX > -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith > Relocating allocator for buffers: no > GNU version of malloc: yes > >Window System: > Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. > Using MS-Windows menubars. > Using MS-Windows scrollbars. > Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. > Using MS-Windows native widgets. > Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). > - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. > >TTY: > Compiling in support for ncurses. > >Images: > Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > Compiling in support for XPM images. > Compiling in support for PNG images. > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. > >Sound: > Compiling in support for sound (native). > >Databases: > Compiling in support for GNU DBM. > >Internationalization: > Compiling in support for file coding. > >Mail: > Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. > >Other Features: > Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. > Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. > > > >Load-Path Lisp Shadows: >---------------------- >(/home/david.karr/ntlisp/compile2/compile >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/compile) > > >Installed XEmacs Packages: >------------------------- > >((zenirc:version 1.11 :type regular) > (xslt-process :version 1.05 :type regular) > (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) > (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) > (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) > (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) > (viper :version 1.28 :type regular) > (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) > (vhdl :version 1.13 :type regular) > (vc-cc :version 1.16 :type regular) > (vc :version 1.28 :type regular) > (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) > (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) > (tm :version 1.29 :type regular) > (time :version 1.11 :type regular) > (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) > (text-modes :version 1.32 :type single-file) > (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) > (supercite :version 1.18 :type regular) > (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) > (speedbar :version 1.21 :type regular) > (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) > (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) > (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) > (sh-script :version 1.13 :type regular) > (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) > (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) > (scheme :version 1.11 :type regular) > (rmail :version 1.12 :type regular) > (reftex :version 1.23 :type regular) > (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) > (ps-print-nomule :version 1.05 :type regular) > (prog-modes >:version > 1 > .42 >:type > single-file) > (pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular) > (pcl-cvs :version 1.55 :type regular) > (pc :version 1.2 :type single-file) > (os-utils :version 1.25 :type single-file) > (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) > (misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file) > (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) > (mh-e :version 1.13 :type regular) > (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) > (mailcrypt :version 2.09 :type regular) > (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) > (jde :version 1.3 :type regular) > (ispell :version 1.23 :type regular) > (ilisp :version 1.19 :type regular) > (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) > (idlwave :version 1.23 :type regular) > (hm--html-menus :version 1.16 :type regular) > (gnus :version 1.57 :type regular) > (gnats :version 1.12 :type regular) > (games :version 1.13 :type regular) > (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) > (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) > (forms :version 1.13 :type regular) > (footnote :version 1.13 :type regular) > (eudc :version 1.34 :type regular) > (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) > (eshell :version 1.01 :type regular) > (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) > (elib :version 1.08 :type single-file) > (eieio :version 1.01 :type regular) > (eicq :version 1.05 :type regular) > (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) > (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) > (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) > (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) > (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular) > (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) > (dictionary :version 1.0 :type regular) > (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) > (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) > (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) > (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) > (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) > (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) > (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) > (build :version 1.02 :type regular) > (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) > (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) > (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) > (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) > (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) > > >Features: >-------- > >(view-less view xemacsbug shadow hyper-apropos debug sh-script skeleton >executable efs-x19.15 efs-fnh efs-ovwrt efs-netrc efs-defun efs efs-dump >efs-cu >package-ui package-get package-admin config psgml-xemacs sgml-mode psgml >cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles cc-langs cc-vars wid-edit >cc-menus >imenu cc-defs message-x cperl-mode analog ps-print msb mail-source format-spec >message messagexmas mml mm-decode mm-encode mailcap mm-bodies uudecode >mail-parse rfc2045 rfc2231 rfc2047 gnus-util qp ietf-drums time-date >parse-time >mail-abbrevs nnheader nnheaderxm mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils mailheader >smtpmail rfc2104 starttls time-stamp sendmail idl-font-lock supercite >mail-extr >regi font-lock shell comint ring gnuserv rsz-minibuf filladapt compile2 >compile >request-directory generic-filter command-window window-manip-fns hlist >declare-object env buffer-cycle time ffap paren mic-paren timer ecb ecb-help >ecb-util ecb-mode-line ecb-layout advice advice-preload tree-buffer overlay >semantic-load semantic-util cus-face assoc semantic working edmacro iswitchb >zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads >xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads >view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads >tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads >textools-autoloads >text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads >speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads >sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads >rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-nomule-autoloads >prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads >os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads >mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads >jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads >idlwave-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads >games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads >footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads >emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads >edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads >dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads >cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads >c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads >apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show >fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop >mode-motion >mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu >lib-complete >help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget >cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding >mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar >unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules >menu-accelerator-support menubar dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface >xpm xbm lisp-float-type cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system >base64) > > >Recent keystrokes: >----------------- > >r t - e m TAB RET F i l e SPC c o m p l e t i o n SPC >o n SPC " / c / " SPC w o r k s , SPC b u t C-x o C-h >k C-x C-f q C-x o C-x o SPC " f i n d - f i l e " Sh-SPC >t h i n k s SPC i t ' s SPC F T P C-x n a n SPC q C-x >o C-x b C-g M-x M-p RET M-p q M-x M-p RET > > >Recent messages (most recent first): >----------------------------------- > >Parsing /home/david.karr/.mailrc... >Entering debugger... >Quit >n not defined. >Entering debugger... >Loading view-less...done >Loading view-less... >Loading xemacsbug...done >Loading xemacsbug... >Quit >Kill ftp process and buffer? (y or n, c to only close process) >CWD'ing to /anonymous@c:/cygwin/home/david.karr/.bash_profile/... >Making completion list... >Making completion list... >History item: 1 >Loading hyper-apropos...done >Loading hyper-apropos... >Entering debugger... >Loading debug...done >Loading debug... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 14:28:51 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14298; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:28:10 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA14245 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:27:28 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA14241 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:27:28 -0500 Received: from mailrelay.cacheflow.com (mailrelay.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14237 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com (cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.25]) by mailrelay.cacheflow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06244 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:27:27 -0800 Received: by cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:26:21 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Karr, David" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: RE: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" thinks it's a n FTP location Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:26:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I still have version 21.4.3 installed. I just tried executing that and tested the same functionality, and it didn't display this symptom. Obviously, that is still using the Cygwin version I just installed, so the only difference appears to be the XEmacs version. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Piper [mailto:andyp@bea.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:14 AM > To: David M. Karr; xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > Subject: Re: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" > thinks it's > an FTP location > > > Can you narrow down which upgrade is causing the problem? > > Thanks > > andy > > -0800, David M. Karr wrote: > >This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, > > not to your local site managers!! > >Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have > >translators to read other languages for them. > > > > > >Please describe as succinctly as possible: > > - What happened. > > - What you thought should have happened. > > - Precisely what you were doing at the time. > > > >Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. > >================================================================ > >Dear Bug Team! > > > >This morning I upgraded my Cygwin from 1.3.2 to 1.3.5, and > my XEmacs from > >21.4.3 to 21.4.6rc1. > > > >Now, when I try to execute something in a shell buffer, I'm > seeing very > >unusual > >delays before I see the first line of output from the shell > command. If I > >just > >press Return and do nothing else, it takes somewhere in the > range of 15-20 > >seconds before the output appears, even for a simple "ls > .bash*" in my $HOME, > >that lists 7 files when it finally runs. > > > >However, if I press Return and then immediately move either > the text cursor or > >the mouse cursor, the output appears as soon as I do that. > > > >(What is the significance of the "uname -a" output that was > generated below > >this? It does not match my system.) > > > >================================================================ > > > >System Info to help track down your bug: > >--------------------------------------- > > > >uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 > 23:28 i686 unknown > > > >./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' > >'--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' > >'--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' > > > > > >XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp (Windows)" configured for > `i686-pc-cygwin'. > > > > > >Compilation / Installation: > > Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4 > > Installation prefix: /usr/local > > Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' > > Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' > > Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/../include/noX > > -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith > > Relocating allocator for buffers: no > > GNU version of malloc: yes > > > >Window System: > > Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. > > Using MS-Windows menubars. > > Using MS-Windows scrollbars. > > Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. > > Using MS-Windows native widgets. > > Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). > > - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. > > > >TTY: > > Compiling in support for ncurses. > > > >Images: > > Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). > > Compiling in support for XPM images. > > Compiling in support for PNG images. > > Compiling in support for JPEG images. > > Compiling in support for TIFF images. > > Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. > > > >Sound: > > Compiling in support for sound (native). > > > >Databases: > > Compiling in support for GNU DBM. > > > >Internationalization: > > Compiling in support for file coding. > > > >Mail: > > Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. > > > >Other Features: > > Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. > > Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. > > > > > > > >Load-Path Lisp Shadows: > >---------------------- > >(/home/david.karr/ntlisp/compile2/compile > >/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/compile) > > > > > >Installed XEmacs Packages: > >------------------------- > > > >((zenirc:version 1.11 :type regular) > > (xslt-process :version 1.05 :type regular) > > (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) > > (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) > > (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) > > (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) > > (viper :version 1.28 :type regular) > > (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) > > (vhdl :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (vc-cc :version 1.16 :type regular) > > (vc :version 1.28 :type regular) > > (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (tm :version 1.29 :type regular) > > (time :version 1.11 :type regular) > > (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (text-modes :version 1.32 :type single-file) > > (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) > > (supercite :version 1.18 :type regular) > > (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) > > (speedbar :version 1.21 :type regular) > > (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular) > > (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular) > > (slider :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (sh-script :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) > > (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) > > (scheme :version 1.11 :type regular) > > (rmail :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (reftex :version 1.23 :type regular) > > (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) > > (ps-print-nomule :version 1.05 :type regular) > > (prog-modes > > :version > > 1 > > .42 > > :type > > single-file) > > (pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular) > > (pcl-cvs :version 1.55 :type regular) > > (pc :version 1.2 :type single-file) > > (os-utils :version 1.25 :type single-file) > > (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) > > (misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file) > > (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) > > (mh-e :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) > > (mailcrypt :version 2.09 :type regular) > > (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) > > (jde :version 1.3 :type regular) > > (ispell :version 1.23 :type regular) > > (ilisp :version 1.19 :type regular) > > (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) > > (idlwave :version 1.23 :type regular) > > (hm--html-menus :version 1.16 :type regular) > > (gnus :version 1.57 :type regular) > > (gnats :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (games :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) > > (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) > > (forms :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (footnote :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (eudc :version 1.34 :type regular) > > (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (eshell :version 1.01 :type regular) > > (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) > > (elib :version 1.08 :type single-file) > > (eieio :version 1.01 :type regular) > > (eicq :version 1.05 :type regular) > > (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) > > (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) > > (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) > > (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular) > > (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) > > (dictionary :version 1.0 :type regular) > > (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) > > (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) > > (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) > > (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) > > (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) > > (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) > > (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) > > (build :version 1.02 :type regular) > > (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) > > (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) > > (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) > > (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) > > (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) > > > > > >Features: > >-------- > > > >(view-less view xemacsbug shadow hyper-apropos debug > sh-script skeleton > >executable efs-x19.15 efs-fnh efs-ovwrt efs-netrc efs-defun > efs efs-dump > >efs-cu > >package-ui package-get package-admin config psgml-xemacs > sgml-mode psgml > >cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles cc-langs > cc-vars wid-edit > >cc-menus > >imenu cc-defs message-x cperl-mode analog ps-print msb > mail-source format-spec > >message messagexmas mml mm-decode mm-encode mailcap > mm-bodies uudecode > >mail-parse rfc2045 rfc2231 rfc2047 gnus-util qp ietf-drums time-date > >parse-time > >mail-abbrevs nnheader nnheaderxm mm-util mail-prsvr > mail-utils mailheader > >smtpmail rfc2104 starttls time-stamp sendmail idl-font-lock > supercite > >mail-extr > >regi font-lock shell comint ring gnuserv rsz-minibuf > filladapt compile2 > >compile > >request-directory generic-filter command-window > window-manip-fns hlist > >declare-object env buffer-cycle time ffap paren mic-paren > timer ecb ecb-help > >ecb-util ecb-mode-line ecb-layout advice advice-preload > tree-buffer overlay > >semantic-load semantic-util cus-face assoc 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> gnats-autoloads > >games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads > forms-autoloads > >footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads > >emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads > eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads > >edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads > >dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads > >cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads > >c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads > >apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads > loadhist auto-show > >fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop > >mode-motion > >mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu > >lib-complete > >help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete > cus-start custom widget > >cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp > file-coding > >mswindows-scrollbars mswindows tty-frames tty toolbar > native-sound scrollbar > >unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules > >menu-accelerator-support menubar dbm md5 xemacs gutter tiff > png gif jpeg xface > >xpm xbm lisp-float-type cygwin32 dragdrop-api dialog devices > window-system > >base64) > > > > > >Recent keystrokes: > >----------------- > > > >r t - e m TAB RET F i l e SPC c o m p l e t i o n SPC > >o n SPC " / c / " SPC w o r k s , SPC b u t C-x o C-h > >k C-x C-f q C-x o C-x o SPC " f i n d - f i l e " Sh-SPC > >t h i n k s SPC i t ' s SPC F T P C-x n a n SPC q C-x > >o C-x b C-g M-x M-p RET M-p q M-x M-p RET > > > > > >Recent messages (most recent first): > >----------------------------------- > > > >Parsing /home/david.karr/.mailrc... > >Entering debugger... > >Quit > >n not defined. > >Entering debugger... > >Loading view-less...done > >Loading view-less... > >Loading xemacsbug...done > >Loading xemacsbug... > >Quit > >Kill ftp process and buffer? (y or n, c to only close process) > >CWD'ing to /anonymous@c:/cygwin/home/david.karr/.bash_profile/... > >Making completion list... > >Making completion list... > >History item: 1 > >Loading hyper-apropos...done > >Loading hyper-apropos... > >Entering debugger... > >Loading debug...done > >Loading debug... > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 14:31:57 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14549; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:31:57 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA14271 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:27:50 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA14267 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:27:49 -0500 Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14263 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:27:49 -0500 Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D60BBF; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:27:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CF35C3; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:27:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id LAA07823; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:27:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111281927.LAA07823@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: ["Paquette, Dany" ] multi user installation Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "28 Nov 2001 19:20:11 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:27:41 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) wrote: > Any recommendations? This is basic sysadmin 101, and I'm not sure we really need to say anything (in a manual/document). The obvious things are: * With the possible exception of "movemail", the appropriate owner/group is highly site-dependent, and is defined by local site policies. Personally, I happen to use "bin/bin", although many sites do not like to use these. * Depending on the OS, "movemail" may need special permissions, which are, of course, OS-dependent. For example, under HP-UX, the owner is irrelevant, but the group must be "mail", and movemail must be setgid. Other operating systems have other, different requirements. * File permissions: "chmod 444"" are good, with "555" for executables. * Directory permissions: 555, generally. The only possible exception is "777" (not 555) for the lock directory, if you happen to have one (newer versions of XEmacs appear to have eliminated the lock dir). However, local site policies may disallow a publicly writable lock directory. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 15:02:16 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16955; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:02:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA16931 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:01:52 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA16927 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:01:52 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16923 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:01:51 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fASK1oV13354; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001232wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.63]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18586; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:01:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128115523.00ba0830@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:55:56 -0800 To: "Karr, David" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Andy Piper Subject: RE: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" thinks it's a n FTP location In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 11:26 AM 11/28/01 -0800, Karr, David wrote: >I still have version 21.4.3 installed. I just tried executing that and >tested the same functionality, and it didn't display this symptom. >Obviously, that is still using the Cygwin version I just installed, so the >only difference appears to be the XEmacs version. I don't see this with 21.4.5 and cygwin 1.3.5-2 andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 15:41:23 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19562; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:41:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA19520 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:40:21 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA19516 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:40:21 -0500 Received: from kodos.tinet.ie (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.22]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19512 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:40:20 -0500 Received: from p116.as1.athlone1.eircom.net ([159.134.204.116] helo=159.134.204.116) by kodos.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 169BV7-0000Ns-00 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:40:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 1370 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2001 21:18:17 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (HELO comp.cz) (vb@127.0.0.1) by softdnserror with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 21:18:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3C055499.534B6348@comp.cz> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:18:17 +0000 From: Vaclav Barta X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Aichner CC: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: report-xemacs-bug X vm-user-agent (was: Edit|Find dialog too small) References: <3C03E6A5.6EEE62AB@comp.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian Aichner wrote: > >> When you try to send the bug report you'll get a > >> **Backtrace** buffer. > >> Please send us its contents. > Vaclav> OK, attached ("won't send" was the subject I > compose-mail is defined in simple.el > > Please try this: > > (find-library "simple") Opens /usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b3/lisp/simple.elc . I unzipped and opened simple.el instead. > Go to begin of line > (defun compose-mail > and type > M-x edebug-defun No match for edebug-defun. I suppose I need another package - edebug looks promising... > Now when type M-x report-emacs-bug > you should be able ot step thru compose-mail and see where > things fall apart. OK, it seems to do something, but what exactly... I do break into the compose-mail function, but the debugger interface doesn't really look much like MS Visual Studio... :-) Ahh, I can single-step with a space... compose-mail starts like this: (interactive (list nil nil nil current-prefix-arg)) (let ((function (get mail-user-agent 'composefunc))) (funcall function to subject other-headers continue switch-function yank-action send-actions))) I can step as far as the first closing brace on the last line; then I get "Symbol's function definition is void: nil" - which the value of the function variable really is... Back to the assignment - function is the 'composefunc property of the mail-user-agent (right?), and mail-user-agent is... 'vm-user-agent I think I'm going to pause here... What next? Bye Vasek From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 15:46:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19897; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:45:57 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA19697 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:43:11 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA19693 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:43:11 -0500 Received: from mailrelay.cacheflow.com (mailrelay.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19687 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:43:11 -0500 Received: from cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com (cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.25]) by mailrelay.cacheflow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10061 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:43:10 -0800 Received: by cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:42:04 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Karr, David" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: RE: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" thinks it's a n FTP location Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:41:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I also noticed that when I execute a program that emits output in "blocks" (an application that times various things and then reports timings in blocks), each "block" of output doesn't appear until I move either the text or mouse cursor. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Piper [mailto:andyp@bea.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:56 AM > To: Karr, David; xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > Subject: RE: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" > thinks it's > a n FTP location > > > At 11:26 AM 11/28/01 -0800, Karr, David wrote: > >I still have version 21.4.3 installed. I just tried > executing that and > >tested the same functionality, and it didn't display this symptom. > >Obviously, that is still using the Cygwin version I just > installed, so the > >only difference appears to be the XEmacs version. > > I don't see this with 21.4.5 and cygwin 1.3.5-2 > > andy > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 16:00:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA20962; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:00:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA20912 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:59:35 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA20908 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:59:35 -0500 Received: from mailrelay.cacheflow.com (mailrelay.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20904 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:59:34 -0500 Received: from cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com (cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com [216.52.23.25]) by mailrelay.cacheflow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10986 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:59:31 -0800 Received: by cf-bay-exch-04.cacheflow.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:58:24 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Karr, David" To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: RE: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" thinks it's a n FTP location Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:58:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I apologized for the fact that the original title of this note is wrong. I had written a different note about a different problem (and resolved it), and I guess I accidently cut/pasted the old note title. > -----Original Message----- > From: Karr, David [mailto:david.karr@cacheflow.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:42 PM > To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > Subject: RE: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" > thinks it's > a n FTP location > > > I also noticed that when I execute a program that emits > output in "blocks" > (an application that times various things and then reports timings in > blocks), each "block" of output doesn't appear until I move > either the text > or mouse cursor. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy Piper [mailto:andyp@bea.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:56 AM > > To: Karr, David; xemacs-beta@xemacs.org > > Subject: RE: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" > > thinks it's > > a n FTP location > > > > > > At 11:26 AM 11/28/01 -0800, Karr, David wrote: > > >I still have version 21.4.3 installed. I just tried > > executing that and > > >tested the same functionality, and it didn't display this symptom. > > >Obviously, that is still using the Cygwin version I just > > installed, so the > > >only difference appears to be the XEmacs version. > > > > I don't see this with 21.4.5 and cygwin 1.3.5-2 > > > > andy > > > From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 16:25:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22487; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:25:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA22405 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:24:28 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA22398 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:24:28 -0500 Received: from petteflet.ntlworld.com (pc4-oxfo3-0-cust81.oxf.cable.ntl.com [213.105.158.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22394; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:24:19 -0500 Received: by petteflet.ntlworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 39C9AA7A1A; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:24:15 +0100 (CET) To: John Paul Wallington Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-nt@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available References: <877ksjd0ze.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87n116j0ns.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> From: Jan Vroonhof Date: 28 Nov 2001 22:24:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87n116j0ns.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Message-ID: <87elmitwqo.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , John Paul Wallington writes: > doesn't make a difference. I've found that if the > set-face-background/foreground forms within gtk-init-device-faces > aren't passed the gtk device as the optional locale argument then > subsequent customization of the default faces do have a visible > effect. I posted a patch to xemacs-patches that just comments them > out, which is yukky but works. It maybe yucky[1] but I think it is the best solution is indeed to remove the device argument, as long as a '(default gtk) tag set is used instead. Jan Footnotes: [1] This is mitigated by the fact there will only ever be one GTK device for the foreseeable future anyway. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 16:34:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA25612; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:34:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA25601 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:33:58 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA25596 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:33:58 -0500 Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA25592 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:33:57 -0500 Received: from modem-1194.charmeleon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.83.170] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 169CL2-0002C1-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:33:52 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 169CPE-0000UF-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:38:12 +0000 To: doug@lathi.net Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gtk-xemacs status and bug database/list References: <87wv0a3f1p.fsf@localhost.localdomain> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.5-b3 (GTK) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 28 Nov 2001 21:38:12 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87wv0a3f1p.fsf@localhost.localdomain> (Doug Alcorn's message of "28 Nov 2001 13:50:58 -0500") Message-ID: <87d722injv.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Doug Alcorn wrote: > > Off the http://www.xemacs.org/ page there is a link to Bill P's site > for GTK-Xemacs. That page is quite old and in no way reflects what > I know the status to be. Is there a better link to see what the > status is? Les Schaffer has a page dedicated to fixing some GTK XEmacs bugs: http://folks.astrian.net/godzilla/gtk-bugs.html If it is worthwhile to maintain a page of known issues and workarounds, yet no-one else wants to do it, then I volunteer. > I'm considering switching from Athena to GTK. I'm just not sure > what isn't going to work right. Setting gutter-buffers-tab-visible-p to nil in my custom-set-variables form was about the only thing I've set because of GTK. There are occaisional glitches in redisplay, but they are very minor. Hmm. I've just noticed visible bell isn't. Ultimately, the best way to find out what doesn't work right is to try it. > On a related note, is there a bug list for xemacs? The main site > has a "search for problems" that just points to this list. Would > setting up something like bugzilla be usefull? That's a good idea. I think simply having seperate bug-reporting lists would be useful too (eg: xemacs-bugs and xemacs-beta-bugs). -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 16:50:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12808; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:50:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA12744 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:49:20 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA12737 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:49:19 -0500 Received: from petteflet.ntlworld.com (pc4-oxfo3-0-cust81.oxf.cable.ntl.com [213.105.158.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12719; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:49:06 -0500 Received: by petteflet.ntlworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 75D1DA7A19; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:19:09 +0100 (CET) To: "Andy Piper" Cc: , , "XEmacs NT List" , "XEmacs Beta List" Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available References: <000e01c176ff$ece938d0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> From: Jan Vroonhof Date: 28 Nov 2001 22:19:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <000e01c176ff$ece938d0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Message-ID: <87itbutwz6.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Andy Piper" writes: > > and despite Jan's protestations reverting cus-face.el to the 21.4.5 version > cures this, so it really *is* Jan/Stephen's patch and I assume they will do > something about it this time. > I am afraid you must have misunderstood me (I was already wondering what you meant with that short reply). Your mail contained 2 problems, the first of which I am still quite convinced is not "mine". However this particular problem is[1]. However I cannot understand what is happening. As I tried to make clear, I had hoped the similar failure under gtk would help, but as you said the fix for seems not to apply to windows case. As of today the policy barriers barring me from getting new XEmacsen at work have been cleared up, so I hope I can get a windows build up and running again. It really needs somebody to edebug through face-set-family/size on windows and see what is happening. Until then it would be really helpful (as it would be for all these problems) if somebody could post before and after values of (specifier-spec-list (face-font 'default)) and the same with 'default replaced with font customize is trying to modify if different. What _should_ be happening is that the after-value is like the before value but for every locale+tag combination there should be a new spec which is the same but for 1. there is a 'custom tag added and 2. the requested modifications have been made. Jan Footnotes: [1] Or rather I think my patch is exposing some other problem that was lingering unnoticed. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 17:13:21 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA14241; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:13:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA14215 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:12:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA14208 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:12:43 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA14189; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:12:38 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fASMCaV19864; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:12:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001232wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.63]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18790; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:12:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128141041.00ba6590@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:12:23 -0800 To: Jan Vroonhof , "Andy Piper" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6-rc1 binary kit available Cc: , , "XEmacs NT List" , "XEmacs Beta List" In-Reply-To: <87itbutwz6.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> References: <000e01c176ff$ece938d0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> <000e01c176ff$ece938d0$947ba8c0@TSUNAMI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 10:19 PM 11/28/01 +0100, Jan Vroonhof wrote: >I am afraid you must have misunderstood me (I was already wondering >what you meant with that short reply). Your mail contained 2 problems, >the first of which I am still quite convinced is not "mine". No problem. >As of today the policy barriers barring me from getting new XEmacsen at >work have been cleared up, so I hope I can get a windows build up and You should get broadband access and work at home...oh no I'm sorry, you live in the UK :) andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 20:26:51 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA24873; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:26:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA24852 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:25:41 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA24848 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:25:41 -0500 Received: from cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.174]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA24843 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:25:41 -0500 Received: from modem-1008.bulbasaur.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.50.240] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 169FxJ-0007i1-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:25:37 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 169G1V-0000bc-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:29:57 +0000 To: Uwe Brauer Cc: Pekka Marjola , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: file-confirm-mode References: <87oflnkuzz.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> <15364.56099.47214.836787@sunma2.mat.ucm.es> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.5-b3 (GTK) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 29 Nov 2001 01:29:57 +0000 In-Reply-To: <15364.56099.47214.836787@sunma2.mat.ucm.es> (Uwe Brauer's message of "Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:40:03 +0000") Message-ID: <87wv0a74a2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Uwe Brauer wrote: > I just played a little around (xemacs-21.1.14) and it is quite > nifty. So far I only find a little confusing the following > phrase > > "File does not exist, visit anyway" > > I suggest to use "open" instead. I disagree. > I can not remember to have seen this in gnu.emacs.source, I also > suggest to send it there. I agree. Or the Emacs Lisp List. Incidentally, it appears to work on GNU Emacs 21.1.50, but not on 20.7. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 20:34:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25304; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:34:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA25268 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:33:18 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA25264 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:33:18 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25258 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:33:13 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169G3W-0002h0-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:32:02 +0900 To: Andy Piper Cc: Robert Pluim , XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash References: <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 29 Nov 2001 10:32:02 +0900 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> Message-ID: <871yii746l.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> At 11:18 AM 11/28/01 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: >> Whee! I can reproduce this, and it's the progress gauge falling >> over. Andy, is there any useful info I can give you here? Andy> So its failing with athena? Please check you haven't got Andy> some weird 3d package installed. I thought Debian was Andy> particularly bad at getting this right? Yes, but that was over a year ago, long since fixed. The threat of specific mention in XEmacs's PROBLEMS file is very effective. People using `sid' must now specifically request 3d support at build time, or they won't get it. I don't know about potato and woody, but I think potato never had that problem, and woody got fixed. I'll check. Other people are reporting widget problems as well; the widget code is still fragile. I'll be putting together details on outstanding bug reports early next week. Syntax table issues first, then LIFO for all other bugs. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 20:38:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25601; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:38:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA25364 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:35:14 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA25359 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:35:14 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25351 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:35:12 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169G5q-0002hI-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:34:26 +0900 To: XEmacs Beta Testers Subject: Re: a user suggestion for rect.el References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 29 Nov 2001 10:34:26 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87wv0a5pi5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "drv" == Didier Verna writes: drv> What do you think about that ? It's ok with me (I drv> like the proposed key binding). Unless there are any drv> objection, I'll apply a patch to implement this. I agree. I'll apply to 21.4 unless Vin objects. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 20:40:02 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25769; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:40:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA25638 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:38:17 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA25634 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:38:17 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25629 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:38:16 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169G8g-0002hS-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:37:22 +0900 To: "David M. Karr" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: file complete works with "/c/", but "find-file" thinks it's an FTP location References: <200111281838.KAA03334@mailrelay.cacheflow.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 29 Nov 2001 10:37:21 +0900 In-Reply-To: <200111281838.KAA03334@mailrelay.cacheflow.com> Message-ID: <87snay5pda.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "David" == David M Karr writes: David> (What is the significance of the "uname -a" output that was David> generated below this? It does not match my system.) Right. This comes from the Installation file, and describes the build environment. AFAIK there is no equivalent to uname for Windows, so we don't do a runtime system check in report-emacs-bug. Maybe we should figure out a way to do so. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 20:46:05 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA26095; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:46:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA26082 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:45:46 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA26078 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:45:46 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA26064; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:45:39 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAT1jYV28441; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:45:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001232wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.63]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06099; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:45:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128174501.00c13240@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:45:23 -0800 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: crash Cc: Robert Pluim , XEmacs Developers In-Reply-To: <871yii746l.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 10:32 AM 11/29/01 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Other people are reporting widget problems as well; the widget code is >still fragile. Or it may be that it stresses the toolkit in ways that God didn't intend. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 21:26:11 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28556; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:26:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA28440 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:25:08 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA28435 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:25:07 -0500 Received: from zion.rcn.com (209-6-124-185.c3-0.nwt-ubr1.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.124.185]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28419; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:25:00 -0500 Received: by zion.rcn.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id E87CA1199C; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:27:05 -0500 (EST) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Cc: XEmacs Beta Testers Subject: Re: a user suggestion for rect.el References: <87wv0a5pi5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Vin Shelton Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Date: 28 Nov 2001 21:27:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87wv0a5pi5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Message-ID: Lines: 19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Fine with me. - vin "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > >>>>> "drv" == Didier Verna writes: > > drv> What do you think about that ? It's ok with me (I > drv> like the proposed key binding). Unless there are any > drv> objection, I'll apply a patch to implement this. > > I agree. I'll apply to 21.4 unless Vin objects. > > > > -- > Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp > University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN > Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; > ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 21:51:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA29855; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:51:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA29803 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:50:27 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA29795 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:50:27 -0500 Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (mail3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA29789; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:50:22 -0500 Received: from modem-799.honker.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.247.31] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 169HHJ-0006mq-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:50:22 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 169HLS-0000kx-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:54:38 +0000 To: Jan Vroonhof Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, xemacs-nt@xemacs.org Subject: Re: XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" pretest available References: <877ksjd0ze.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87n116j0ns.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> <87elmitwqo.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.5-b3 (GTK) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 29 Nov 2001 02:54:38 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87elmitwqo.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> (Jan Vroonhof's message of "28 Nov 2001 22:24:15 +0100") Message-ID: <87elmi70cx.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Jan Vroonhof wrote: [...] >> I posted a patch to xemacs-patches that just comments them >> out, which is yukky but works. > > It maybe yucky[1] but I think it is the best solution is indeed to > remove the device argument, as long as a '(default gtk) tag set is > used instead. Thanks, Jan. I have posted another patch. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed Nov 28 21:56:06 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA30144; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:56:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA29898 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:51:45 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA29894 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:51:45 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA29889 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:51:43 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169HHl-0002vX-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:50:49 +0900 To: John Paul Wallington Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gtk-xemacs status and bug database/list References: <87wv0a3f1p.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <87d722injv.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 29 Nov 2001 11:50:49 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87d722injv.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Message-ID: <87k7wa5lyu.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "jpw" == John Paul Wallington writes: jpw> Doug Alcorn wrote: >> Off the http://www.xemacs.org/ page there is a link to Bill P's >> site for GTK-Xemacs. That page is quite old and in no way >> reflects what I know the status to be. Is there a better link >> to see what the status is? The basic status is that GTK is still experimental, and is not getting much attention from the core team. Bill is apparently busy with day job, but I'll be getting in touch with him, now that I'm less busy with day job. jpw> Les Schaffer has a page dedicated to fixing some GTK XEmacs jpw> bugs: http://folks.astrian.net/godzilla/gtk-bugs.html Right. We should link this on the home page ... done. jpw> If it is worthwhile to maintain a page of known issues and jpw> workarounds, yet no-one else wants to do it, then I jpw> volunteer. This is a "core" thing that I've fallen down on. I'll be standing back up early next week. But since you've mentioned the V-word, you'll be hearing from me. Don't go changing your e-mail address or anything like that ;-) >> On a related note, is there a bug list for xemacs? The main >> site has a "search for problems" that just points to this list. >> Would setting up something like bugzilla be usefull? Yes. I'm working on bugzilla, but what really needs to be done is to put the backlog into it, and bugzilla does not seem to have an easy way to do that. jpw> That's a good idea. I think simply having seperate jpw> bug-reporting lists would be useful too (eg: xemacs-bugs and jpw> xemacs-beta-bugs). Used to be that way. Effectively they went to /dev/null. Right now there are about 20 user/tester-oriented addresses @xemacs.org, and nobody really paying much attention to any of them[1] except xemacs-beta and xemacs-winnt. Switching to aliasing the ones that were being ignored to xemacs-beta at least gets them some attention. Again, bugzilla doesn't like getting email, although I hear it's quite persistent about _sending_ it. Footnotes: [1] There are good reasons for that; responding to about half of those reports typically was profitless. Most of the rest was very small net gain, mostly accruing to the reporters who got personal answers to FAQs. :-( The good bug reports come from xemacs-beta & xemacs-winnt. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 02:05:46 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA10714; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:05:17 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA10694 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:04:47 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA10690 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:04:46 -0500 Received: from helms1.oplayo.com (kone2.oplayo.com [212.149.66.3]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA10686 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:04:46 -0500 Received: from liver.oplayo.com (192.168.0.21 [192.168.0.21]) by helms1.oplayo.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id W9SL78LA; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:02:22 +0200 To: John Paul Wallington Cc: Uwe Brauer , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: file-confirm-mode References: <87oflnkuzz.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> <15364.56099.47214.836787@sunma2.mat.ucm.es> <87wv0a74a2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> From: Pekka Marjola X-Face: "x]DXM_Ncu}[%-P>1t{=Nul(4)\>1F{./o-!W?-mksQA(&s35;oDrvT$XCkw+7Xyh8\5,urgQE3=j}l%9FM X-Attribution: Pema Organization: ORC/Alter Ego/Men in Black Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:07:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wv0a74a2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> (John Paul Wallington's message of "29 Nov 2001 01:29:57 +0000") Message-ID: <87pu62ys0q.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> In <87wv0a74a2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com>, >>>>> On 29 Nov 2001 01:29:57 +0000, >>>>> "jpw" == John Paul Wallington writes: jpw> Uwe Brauer wrote: >> I just played a little around (xemacs-21.1.14) and it is quite >> nifty. So far I only find a little confusing the following >> phrase >> >> "File does not exist, visit anyway" >> >> I suggest to use "open" instead. jpw> I disagree. `C-x C-f' Visit a file (`find-file'). Sometimes Emacs terminology is quirky, but I try to use conventions provided, and not make things even more confusing. >> I can not remember to have seen this in gnu.emacs.source, I also >> suggest to send it there. jpw> I agree. I hae just been to lazy to read that lately. jpw> Or the Emacs Lisp List. Where's that list? jpw> Incidentally, it appears to work on GNU Emacs 21.1.50, but not on jpw> 20.7. I don't have any version of GNU Emacs installed, and I'm too lazy to work on interoperatibily, though I would probably include any not too intrusive patches. Does it work fully for GNU Emacs 21.1.50, or is some functionality missing? -- pema@iki.fi * http://www.iki.fi/pema/ Sagakeeper (Ars Magica web tool) 1.2.0 http://www.sagakeeper.com/ pin (emacs startup) 0.41 http://www.iki.fi/pema/emacs/ zbkrc (shell startup) 0.22 http://www.iki.fi/pema/zbkrc/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 02:45:36 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA12424; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:44:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA12397 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:43:22 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA12393 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:43:22 -0500 Received: from imailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (imailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.181]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA12389 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:43:21 -0500 Received: from modem-1113.hottie.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.172.89] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by imailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 169Lqn-000655-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 07:43:18 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 169Lv1-0000wc-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 07:47:39 +0000 To: Uwe Brauer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: file-confirm-mode References: <87oflnkuzz.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> <15364.56099.47214.836787@sunma2.mat.ucm.es> <87wv0a74a2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> <87pu62ys0q.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.5-b3 (GTK) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 29 Nov 2001 07:47:39 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87pu62ys0q.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> (Pekka Marjola's message of "Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:07:17 +0200") Message-ID: <87r8qiauhw.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 29 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Pekka Marjola wrote: [...] > jpw> Or the Emacs Lisp List. > > Where's that list? http://anc.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/emacs/ell.html there are mirrors... http://thalamus.wustl.edu/wonglab/stephen/ell/ell.html http://www.emacslisp.org/ell http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/ell.html > jpw> Incidentally, it appears to work on GNU Emacs 21.1.50, but not > jpw> on 20.7. > > I don't have any version of GNU Emacs installed, and I'm too lazy to > work on interoperatibily, though I would probably include any not > too intrusive patches. Does it work fully for GNU Emacs 21.1.50, or > is some functionality missing? I'm not using GNU Emacs much at the moment, and the only functionality I've tried so far is C-x C-f find-file-confirm-non-existing, and I'm too lazy to examine it in detail presently ;) -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 04:16:45 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA17513; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:16:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id EAA17485 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:15:43 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id EAA17481 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:15:42 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.nortelnetworks.com [47.165.25.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA17477 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:15:42 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAT9FZB25293 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:15:35 GMT Received: from znsgy0k8.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:15:17 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by znsgy0k8.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XYXLPYB8; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:14:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CB5RA; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:14:10 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169NHm-0001XV-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:15:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15365.64670.534725.483536@europe.nortel.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:15:10 +0100 To: Andy Piper Cc: kai uwe tempel , XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> References: <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper writes: > At 11:18 AM 11/28/01 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: > >Whee! I can reproduce this, and it's the progress gauge falling > >over. Andy, is there any useful info I can give you here? > > So its failing with athena? Please check you haven't got some weird > 3d package installed. I thought Debian was particularly bad at > getting this right? I did have xaw3d installed, but now I only have normal xaw installed: pn libxaw-dev (no description available) ii libxaw6 4.1.0-9 X Athena widget set library (version 6) ii libxaw6-dev 4.1.0-9 X Athena widget set library development file ii libxaw7 4.1.0-9 X Athena widget set library ii xaw-wrappers 1.12 allow use of programs with xaw replacements pn xaw3d (no description available) un xaw3d-dev (no description available) rc xaw3dg 1.5-9 Xaw3d widget set pn xaw3dg-dev (no description available) pn xaw95 (no description available) pn xaw95g (no description available) Here's what I get (after rebuilding): #0 0x4018dde0 in XDrawLine () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 #1 0x081e1257 in GaugeExpose (w=0x885c068, event=0xbfffc754, region=0x84cf8c0) at xlwgauge.c:425 #2 0x401349b5 in _XtEventInitialize () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #3 0x4013469b in XtDispatchEventToWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #4 0x401343e4 in XtDispatchEventToWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #5 0x40134d9e in _XtOnGrabList () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #6 0x40135108 in XtDispatchEvent () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #7 0x4013fa50 in XtAppProcessEvent () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #8 0x081b0310 in drain_X_queue () at event-Xt.c:2907 #9 0x081b0426 in emacs_Xt_event_pending_p (user_p=0) at event-Xt.c:3024 #10 0x080e7bd7 in event_stream_event_pending_p (user=0) at event-stream.c:438 #11 0x080ea7ca in Fdispatch_non_command_events () at event-stream.c:2368 #12 0x080b9c78 in Feval (form=138501928) at eval.c:3331 The progress widget actually gets displayed, but XEmacs crashes as soon as it starts updating it. I don't get these crashes with lesstif, but Kai says he does. Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 09:40:39 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA20584; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:40:23 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA20470 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:39:38 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA20466 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:39:37 -0500 Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu [128.173.14.103]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA20462 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:39:37 -0500 From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Received: from foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (valdis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu (8.12.2.Beta1/8.12.2.Beta1) with ESMTP id fATEdXgi003394 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:39:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200111291439.fATEdXgi003394@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4+dev To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Notice of web-commit by stephen in XEmacs/xemacsweb/Releases/Public-21.2 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:24:08 GMT." <20011129142408.1910.qmail@sunsite.dk> X-Url: http://black-ice.cc.vt.edu/~valdis/ X-Face-Viewer: See ftp://cs.indiana.edu/pub/faces/index.html to decode picture X-Face: 34C9$Ewd2zeX+\!i1BA\j{ex+$/V'JBG#;3_noWWYPa"|,I#`R"{n@w>#:{)FXyiAS7(8t( ^*w5O*!8O9YTe[r{e%7(yVRb|qxsRYw`7J!`AM}m_SHaj}f8eb@d^L>BrX7iO[ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1545297736P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:39:33 -0500 X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , --==_Exmh_-1545297736P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:24:08 GMT, cvs@sunsite.dk said: > Log Message: > Fix link to future Dangling symlinks. What a pain. --==_Exmh_-1545297736P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iQA/AwUBPAZIpHAt5Vm009ewEQIQdQCeO2vMTI86bCTh42yq58TDDUfZA60Anip4 xp9FgzQivkcTUEufSQB1waa+ =qAja -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1545297736P-- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 09:44:01 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21175; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:44:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA21130 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:43:42 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA21126 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:43:42 -0500 Received: from mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.231]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21121 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:43:40 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-210.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.210]) by mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fATEhTQ13861 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:43:30 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fATESRkb009773; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:28:27 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: verifying PGP signed package-index files From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:28:27 +1000 Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi People! I've got this working, but I'm wondering if we really need it or not. I mean, as far as I can tell, this part of the XEmacs Package System has never worked, and it was introduced in 1998. Obviously it was never seen as important enough to do anything about. Do the package-index files need to be PGP signed? Does anyone know what the reasoning was behind the idea in the first place? Another thing that concerns me is that if I apply the patch to fix the PGP stuff and then start signing the package-index files it'll bugger up any XEmacsen that is pre-PGP-patch. So, what would you like me to do; fix the PGP code and tell everyone to stop whining and upgrade, or get rid of the PGP code in the package tools altogether? -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 09:45:27 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21322; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:45:26 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA21145 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:43:45 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA21141 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:43:45 -0500 Received: from mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.231]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21134 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:43:43 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-210.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.210]) by mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fATEhWQ13886 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:43:32 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fATDaFWq009742; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:36:15 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: "Wrong type argument" with Update Package Index References: <3BC4877100001120@mail.san.yahoo.com> <8zcsmz8v.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> <87lmgrr1i1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:36:14 +1000 In-Reply-To: <87lmgrr1i1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "28 Nov 2001 12:57:26 +0900") Message-ID: Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: SJT> Oh yeah, that reminds me. The package tools will install directly SJT> into $prefix/lib/xemacs/lisp/$package under some circumstances. It's SJT> a problem with the sort-and-select-install-root algorithm there. Are SJT> you fixing that too? Steve, I had a look for this but couldn't find anything that would cause it. Can you give me any more info that would help me to track it down? Such as: - what circumstances may cause it - thread on mailing list that mentions it - defuns you suspect are the culprits - phase of the moon the last time it happened - discordian date for the last time it happened -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 10:03:26 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22334; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:03:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA22317 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:02:53 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA22313 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:02:53 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22306 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:02:51 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169ShP-0007tV-00; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:02:03 +0900 To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: verifying PGP signed package-index files References: Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 30 Nov 2001 00:02:02 +0900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87bshl39jp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> Another thing that concerns me is that if I apply the patch to SY> fix the PGP stuff and then start signing the package-index SY> files it'll bugger up any XEmacsen that is pre-PGP-patch. Why is that? Oh, because the current code looks for the signature, and if it's not there, asks if it's OK---but if it were there but wrong, it would barf? What you could do is change the name of the signature, that way only patched XEmacsen would know that the signature exists. Put in an option not to use it. As for why have it, I think paranoia is a good thing. I thought it was totally historical when the chair of the Information Science graduate program here SirCam'ed us on an internal mailing list. But free software has vulnerabilities too, and if people want to be careful we should provide them with the facilities. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 10:21:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23506; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:21:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA23415 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:20:25 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA23411 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:20:25 -0500 Received: from mail.hks.com (mail.hks.com [63.125.197.5]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23407 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:20:24 -0500 Received: from maru.hks.com (fw.hks.com [63.125.196.1]) by mail.hks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56BF116B8 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from perseus.hks.com (perseus.hks.com [172.16.2.12]) by maru.hks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F191400B80 for <@hks.com:xemacs-beta@xemacs.org>; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from donath@localhost) by perseus.hks.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI) id KAA37512 for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:20:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Clarence Donath" Message-Id: <1011129102013.ZM145260@perseus.hks.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:20:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: C brace offset MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Greetings and felicitations, We are having trouble with C brace indents. Our braces on a line by themselves are indenting to what c-basic-offset is set to. This is what it looks like: if () { What we want is this: if () { I've been all through the faqs, documentation and archives, and found c-brace-offset, c-continued-brace-offset, etc., tried them all, but XEmacs is ignoring these. We are using XEmacs [version 20.4; Feb 1998] that I built on IRIX. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Clarence Donath From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 10:31:09 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24452; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:31:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA24433 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:30:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA24429 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:30:48 -0500 Received: from lamia.lf.net (lamia.LF.net [212.9.190.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24423 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:30:46 -0500 Received: by lamia.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.111/lamia.lf.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services for mail.xemacs.org id m169T92-001Sq7C; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:30:36 +0100 (CET) To: "Clarence Donath" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: C brace offset References: <1011129102013.ZM145260@perseus.hks.com> Organization: LF.net GmbH, Stuttgart, Germany X-Attribution: viteno X-NCC-RegID: de.lfnet X-URL: http://www.LF.net/ X-Face: 5*nyF1\39:,h6Sk1<}(t1O5x!y5y6@XzBRq5LAYj;Xzb*Ak,]@$HL@>: c&#dUFU=U8O(+/6T0k{j{1~uS@GVk4zurEEb.~MoSbG2pM4z!~/<@.tcd `uD`fNR+TM\@++x@!/Bq)24"xD_kGn,jqwVQa|R'|FFxgWa+$0x]p>KE9E /Xk0$%a*2*K]"zOtbk9v0sNgwb2H"IOaEjCVolb5&yW`o#w2}!w!M{Dn&{K0t From: Norbert Koch Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:30:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1011129102013.ZM145260@perseus.hks.com> ("Clarence Donath"'s message of "Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:20:13 -0500") Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i386-unknown-freebsd4.4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , "Clarence Donath" writes: > I've been all through the faqs, documentation and archives, and found > c-brace-offset, c-continued-brace-offset, etc., tried them all, but XEmacs is > ignoring these. The variable is buffer-local. You have use a hook: (add-hook 'c-mode-common-hook #'(lambda () (setq c-brace-offset 0))) Should do the trick. norbert. -- Gibble, Gobble, we ACCEPT YOU --- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 11:04:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27079; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:04:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA27046 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:03:51 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA27042 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:03:51 -0500 Received: from mta3-svc.virgin.net (mta3-svc.virgin.net [62.253.164.43]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27021 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:03:36 -0500 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk ([62.252.4.58]) by mta3-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20011129160331.THSI6091.mta3-svc.virgin.net@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk>; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:03:31 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fATG0iS01267; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:00:44 GMT From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15366.23468.311917.745139@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:00:44 +0000 To: "Clarence Donath" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: C brace offset In-Reply-To: <1011129102013.ZM145260@perseus.hks.com> References: <1011129102013.ZM145260@perseus.hks.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.94 under 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence (candidate #1)" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Clarence Donath wrote: > We are having trouble with C brace indents. > > Our braces on a line by themselves are indenting to what > c-basic-offset is set to. > > This is what it looks like: > > if () > { > > What we want is this: > > if () > { C-h v c-offsets-alist C-h v c-style-alist C-h f c-set-offset C-h f c-set-style In this case, the syntactic context is 'substatement-open. > We are using XEmacs [version 20.4; Feb 1998] that I built on IRIX. That's rather ancient. -- Glynn Clements From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 11:35:24 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29421; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:35:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA29360 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:34:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA29356 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:34:24 -0500 Received: from mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.171]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29352 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:34:22 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-210.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.210]) by mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fATGYFg02882 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:34:15 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fATGOkCL011509; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 02:24:46 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: verifying PGP signed package-index files References: <87bshl39jp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 02:24:45 +1000 In-Reply-To: <87bshl39jp.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "30 Nov 2001 00:02:02 +0900") Message-ID: Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>>>"SY" == Steve Youngs writes: SY> Another thing that concerns me is that if I apply the patch to SY> fix the PGP stuff and then start signing the package-index SY> files it'll bugger up any XEmacsen that is pre-PGP-patch. SJT> Why is that? Oh, because the current code looks for the signature, SJT> and if it's not there, asks if it's OK---but if it were there but SJT> wrong, it would barf? It barfs because the verification code is wrong, and there is no way for the user to tell it not to verify the sig. And from what I can tell, even if the code did work it would only work for PGP 2.6. If you used PGP 5 or GnuPG, you'd be sunk. My code will only attempt to verify the sig if 'package-get-require-signed-base-updates' is non-nil and a sig exists. It also sets the PGP version for MailCrypt depending on what you have installed. SJT> What you could do is change the name of the signature, that way only SJT> patched XEmacsen would know that the signature exists. Put in an SJT> option not to use it. So maintain 2 separate package-index files... a signed one for the bleeding edge crowd, and an unsigned one for everyone else? Possible, but I'd have to automate it so as to reduce the chances of them getting messed up or out of sync. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 12:12:16 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA32308; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:12:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA32217 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:11:23 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA32212 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:11:23 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.17]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA32208 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:11:23 -0500 Received: from localhost.optonline.net (ool-182db51c.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.181.28]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GNK00ABRNQWCS@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:11:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:09:25 -0500 From: Les Schaffer X-Face: [V?bWTh\+_V")"gXxY9KGQozO(|>ggwp;\Ds6@YGoS$wreQaSLmhWUp%V;okpj4C^i$FQWK Q:/luO.Zh=VP"U5M.%m1cK:v9DgiQp^JK47nxE^=e3~HPoLmY,igNBZo)LUT3a2CFm*chsyaq7~=dU _IX>v[h$BZsa*yn5;?{|3Z@ZI@FL(e`-@wq`f?~{1){A%o:/t"39M@}ER]6.62NbfxrD%!{9!So^\9 c Subject: Re: gtk-xemacs status and bug database/list In-reply-to: <87d722injv.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Reply-to: Les Schaffer Message-id: <15366.27589.740272.837908@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta2) "artichoke" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <87wv0a3f1p.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <87d722injv.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.18. X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , John: > If it is worthwhile to maintain a page of known issues and > workarounds, yet no-one else wants to do it, then I volunteer. lets carry on as we have and work this together. i'll promise to add your stuff to my page more quickly. or if you wanna run it, take my page and i'll feed you. les schaffer From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 12:57:16 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04205; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:57:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA04119 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:56:01 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA04115 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:56:01 -0500 Received: from mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.178]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04108 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:55:59 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-210.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.210]) by mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fATHtpd11398 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 04:55:51 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fATHpElG012265; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:51:14 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Updated packages in Pre-Release - Nov 30 From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:51:14 +1000 Message-ID: Lines: 66 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== vm-6.99-pkg.tar.gz Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: ================================================== dictionary-1.01-pkg.tar.gz edit-utils-1.71-pkg.tar.gz jde-1.31-pkg.tar.gz mail-lib-1.40-pkg.tar.gz vc-cc-1.17-pkg.tar.gz viper-1.29-pkg.tar.gz Detailed Changes: ================ vm-6.99-pkg.tar.gz ------------------ 2001-11-30 Steve Youngs * Makefile (ELCS): Add vm-crypto.elc * Sync with VM-6.99 Installing These: ================ Manually: -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 13:01:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04500; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:01:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA04481 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:00:50 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA04473 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:00:46 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04468 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:00:46 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fATI0UV18260; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com ([192.168.11.221]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25286; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:00:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:00:19 -0800 To: Robert Pluim From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: crash Cc: kai uwe tempel , XEmacs Developers In-Reply-To: <15365.64670.534725.483536@europe.nortel.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 10:15 AM 11/29/01 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: >Andy Piper writes: > > At 11:18 AM 11/28/01 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: > > >Whee! I can reproduce this, and it's the progress gauge falling > > >over. Andy, is there any useful info I can give you here? > > > > So its failing with athena? Please check you haven't got some weird > > 3d package installed. I thought Debian was particularly bad at > > getting this right? > >I did have xaw3d installed, but now I only have normal xaw installed: > >pn libxaw-dev (no description available) >ii libxaw6 4.1.0-9 X Athena widget set library (version 6) >ii libxaw6-dev 4.1.0-9 X Athena widget set library development file >ii libxaw7 4.1.0-9 X Athena widget set library >ii xaw-wrappers 1.12 allow use of programs with xaw replacements >pn xaw3d (no description available) >un xaw3d-dev (no description available) >rc xaw3dg 1.5-9 Xaw3d widget set >pn xaw3dg-dev (no description available) >pn xaw95 (no description available) >pn xaw95g (no description available) > >Here's what I get (after rebuilding): > >#0 0x4018dde0 in XDrawLine () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 >#1 0x081e1257 in GaugeExpose (w=0x885c068, event=0xbfffc754, >region=0x84cf8c0) > at xlwgauge.c:425 >#2 0x401349b5 in _XtEventInitialize () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 >#3 0x4013469b in XtDispatchEventToWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 >#4 0x401343e4 in XtDispatchEventToWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 >#5 0x40134d9e in _XtOnGrabList () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 >#6 0x40135108 in XtDispatchEvent () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 >#7 0x4013fa50 in XtAppProcessEvent () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 >#8 0x081b0310 in drain_X_queue () at event-Xt.c:2907 >#9 0x081b0426 in emacs_Xt_event_pending_p (user_p=0) at event-Xt.c:3024 >#10 0x080e7bd7 in event_stream_event_pending_p (user=0) at event-stream.c:438 >#11 0x080ea7ca in Fdispatch_non_command_events () at event-stream.c:2368 >#12 0x080b9c78 in Feval (form=138501928) at eval.c:3331 > >The progress widget actually gets displayed, but XEmacs crashes as >soon as it starts updating it. I don't get these crashes with >lesstif, but Kai says he does. We can start debugging, but I must say I'm *mighty* suspicious still. No-one else has seen any problems like this for a long time and all the previous occurrences were on debian with messed up headers. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 13:03:08 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04795; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:03:04 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA04642 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:01:56 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA04638 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:01:56 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04589; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:01:42 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fATI1cV18314; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com ([192.168.11.221]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25508; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:01:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011129100051.00ba2d20@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:01:27 -0800 To: Steve Youngs , XEmacs Beta From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: verifying PGP signed package-index files In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 12:28 AM 11/30/01 +1000, Steve Youngs wrote: >I've got this working, but I'm wondering if we really need it or not. >I mean, as far as I can tell, this part of the XEmacs Package System >has never worked, and it was introduced in 1998. Obviously it was >never seen as important enough to do anything about. > >Do the package-index files need to be PGP signed? Does anyone know >what the reasoning was behind the idea in the first place? > >Another thing that concerns me is that if I apply the patch to fix the >PGP stuff and then start signing the package-index files it'll bugger >up any XEmacsen that is pre-PGP-patch. > >So, what would you like me to do; fix the PGP code and tell everyone >to stop whining and upgrade, or get rid of the PGP code in the >package tools altogether? I would suggest its always been pointless functionality, but I know there are the paranoid that disagree. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 13:06:15 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05116; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:06:14 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA04756 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:02:51 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA04752 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:02:51 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04747 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:02:50 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fATI2oV18365; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com ([192.168.11.221]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25888; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:02:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011129100213.00ba7350@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:02:38 -0800 To: "Clarence Donath" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: C brace offset In-Reply-To: <1011129102013.ZM145260@perseus.hks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Does this dtrt under 21.1? We are experiencing some problems with syntax parsing under 21.4.x. andy At 10:20 AM 11/29/01 -0500, Clarence Donath wrote: >Greetings and felicitations, > >We are having trouble with C brace indents. > >Our braces on a line by themselves are indenting to what c-basic-offset is set >to. > >This is what it looks like: > >if () > { > >What we want is this: > >if () >{ > >I've been all through the faqs, documentation and archives, and found >c-brace-offset, c-continued-brace-offset, etc., tried them all, but XEmacs is >ignoring these. > >We are using XEmacs [version 20.4; Feb 1998] that I built on IRIX. > >Any advise would be greatly appreciated. > >Regards, >Clarence Donath From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 13:14:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05770; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:14:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA05738 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:13:35 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA05734 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:13:35 -0500 Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05727 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:13:34 -0500 Received: from modem-1044.gacked.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.250.20] helo=bundalo.shootybangbang.com) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 169VgV-0001hi-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:13:20 +0000 Received: from jpw by bundalo.shootybangbang.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 169Vkk-0001Dd-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:17:42 +0000 To: Les Schaffer Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: gtk-xemacs status and bug database/list References: <87wv0a3f1p.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <87d722injv.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> <15366.27589.740272.837908@gargle.gargle.HOWL> From: John Paul Wallington User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort 0.03) XEmacs/21.5-b3 (GTK) X-URL: http://www.johnpaulwallington.com/ X-Attribution: jpw X-Face: &V*IHH~mf!$dY'jlvk2-lEj|Q=j1NBb$bI=$2yp+8>QoN"sc}@htZ-@ 6"cdyaM- Date: 29 Nov 2001 18:17:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: <15366.27589.740272.837908@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Les Schaffer's message of "Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:09:25 -0500") Message-ID: <87pu6130hl.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Lines: 19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Les Schaffer wrote: > John: > >> If it is worthwhile to maintain a page of known issues and >> workarounds, yet no-one else wants to do it, then I volunteer. > > lets carry on as we have and work this together. i'll promise to add > your stuff to my page more quickly. or if you wanna run it, take my > page and i'll feed you. eek! My comment *did* come out wrong! I thought you wanted to limit the scope of the bug hunt and concentrate on the floaty buffer tab and other major weirdness, in which case a separate status and workarounds page makes some sense. If you don't, it doesn't, and apologies: I certainly *didn't* mean to suggest you didn't want to do it. -- John Paul Wallington From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 13:33:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA07008; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:33:08 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA06981 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:32:55 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA06977 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:32:55 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06973 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:32:55 -0500 Received: from localhost.optonline.net (ool-182db51c.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.181.28]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GNK00KGHRIQI3@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for xemacs-beta@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:32:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:31:01 -0500 From: Les Schaffer X-Face: [V?bWTh\+_V")"gXxY9KGQozO(|>ggwp;\Ds6@YGoS$wreQaSLmhWUp%V;okpj4C^i$FQWK Q:/luO.Zh=VP"U5M.%m1cK:v9DgiQp^JK47nxE^=e3~HPoLmY,igNBZo)LUT3a2CFm*chsyaq7~=dU _IX>v[h$BZsa*yn5;?{|3Z@ZI@FL(e`-@wq`f?~{1){A%o:/t"39M@}ER]6.62NbfxrD%!{9!So^\9 c Subject: Re: gtk-xemacs status and bug database/list In-reply-to: <87pu6130hl.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> To: John Paul Wallington Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Reply-to: Les Schaffer Message-id: <15366.32485.34629.28816@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta2) "artichoke" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <87wv0a3f1p.fsf@localhost.localdomain> <87d722injv.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> <15366.27589.740272.837908@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87pu6130hl.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.18. X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > eek! My comment *did* come out wrong! nope, no offense taken! > I thought you wanted to limit the scope of the bug hunt and > concentrate on the floaty buffer tab and other major weirdness hmmm, hadnt thought of that ... tempting!!!! ;-) > in which case a separate status and workarounds page makes some > sense. If you don't, it doesn't, and apologies: I certainly > *didn't* mean to suggest you didn't want to do it. i'm a big believer in "2 heads are better than 1". I think you might be a little timelier with stuff than i might be. so i can feed you updates on stuff i work on if you wanna handle the overall page. otherwise, feed me stuff, and i will place it straight onto my page. les From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 13:41:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA07665; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:41:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA07582 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:40:00 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA07578 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:40:00 -0500 Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA07559; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:39:56 -0500 Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 169W6F-0001em-09; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:39:55 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.89.4.254]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 169W68-0UIg8OC; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:39:48 +0100 To: John Paul Wallington Cc: Uwe Brauer , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: file-confirm-mode References: <87oflnkuzz.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> <15364.56099.47214.836787@sunma2.mat.ucm.es> <87wv0a74a2.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> <87pu62ys0q.fsf@liver.oplayo.com> <87r8qiauhw.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "jpw" == John Paul Wallington writes: jpw> Pekka Marjola wrote: jpw> [...] jpw> Or the Emacs Lisp List. >> >> Where's that list? jpw> http://anc.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/emacs/ell.html It's referenced, amongst many others, from http://www.xemacs.org/Links/customization.html Best regards, Adrian jpw> there are mirrors... jpw> http://thalamus.wustl.edu/wonglab/stephen/ell/ell.html jpw> http://www.emacslisp.org/ell jpw> http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~stephen/ell.html jpw> Incidentally, it appears to work on GNU Emacs 21.1.50, but not jpw> on 20.7. >> >> I don't have any version of GNU Emacs installed, and I'm too lazy to >> work on interoperatibily, though I would probably include any not >> too intrusive patches. Does it work fully for GNU Emacs 21.1.50, or >> is some functionality missing? jpw> I'm not using GNU Emacs much at the moment, and the only functionality jpw> I've tried so far is C-x C-f find-file-confirm-non-existing, and I'm jpw> too lazy to examine it in detail presently ;) jpw> -- jpw> John Paul Wallington -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 14:28:33 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10778; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:28:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA10722 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:27:04 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA10718 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:27:04 -0500 Received: from mrzs235196.medizin.uni-leipzig.de (server3.medizin.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.235.193]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10713 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:27:03 -0500 Received: from gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de (unverified) by mrzs235196.medizin.uni-leipzig.de (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:26:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 2616 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Nov 2001 19:26:03 -0000 From: kai uwe tempel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15366.35787.487372.831957@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:26:03 +0100 (CET) To: Andy Piper Cc: Robert Pluim , kai uwe tempel , XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 7) "Biscayne" XEmacs Lucid X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper writes: > > We can start debugging, but I must say I'm *mighty* suspicious still. > No-one else has seen any problems like this for a long time and all the > previous occurrences were on debian with messed up headers. > i think it's strange, that the error occurs with both versions in the same manner. that looks very closely like an external problem. i downgraded just my debian-package-xemacs (21.4.4-1) and this works. no one other application seem to have problems. i wish to help you in any way i can. by kai uwe From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 15:29:56 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA15114; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:29:18 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA15021 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:28:13 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA15017 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:28:13 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.nortelnetworks.com [47.165.25.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA15008 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:28:09 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fATKReu08895 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:27:40 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:27:34 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id X6V9CXCR; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:26:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CB557; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:26:27 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169XmK-00021W-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:27:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15366.39472.94790.330808@europe.nortel.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:27:28 +0100 To: Andy Piper Cc: kai uwe tempel , XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper writes: > > We can start debugging, but I must say I'm *mighty* suspicious > still. No-one else has seen any problems like this for a long time > and all the previous occurrences were on debian with messed up > headers. Well, I don't think it can be messed up headers, since I have exactly one set of xaw headers installed, but maybe the xaw library itself is messed up (although Kai and I have different versions). I'll see if there are any later versions of xaw libraries or headers that I can try. Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 16:21:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18456; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:21:09 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA18365 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:20:32 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA18361 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:20:31 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.nortelnetworks.com [47.165.25.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18357 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:20:31 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fATLKQu09358 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:20:26 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:20:07 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id X6V9CXWC; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:19:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CB56F; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:18:59 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169YbC-0003ns-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:20:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15366.42621.945738.493503@europe.nortel.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:19:57 +0100 To: Andy Piper Cc: kai uwe tempel , XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Andy Piper writes: > At 10:15 AM 11/29/01 +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: > >ii libxaw6-dev 4.1.0-9 X Athena widget set library development file > > We can start debugging, but I must say I'm *mighty* suspicious > still. No-one else has seen any problems like this for a long time > and all the previous occurrences were on debian with messed up > headers. Well, it looks like something's messed up. I removed the libxaw6-dev package, installed the libxaw7-dev package, recompiled, and now it works. So either the libxaw6-dev package is messed up, or for some reason xemacs was linking to libxaw7 even though ldd claimed that I was linking to libxaw6. Uwe, I remember you had libxaw6-dev rather than libxaw7-dev installed. Could you see if switching makes a difference for you? Oh Bollocks, X (or maybe Debian) fsckage: $ dpkg -p libxaw6-dev Package: libxaw6-dev Priority: extra Section: devel Installed-Size: 996 Maintainer: Branden Robinson Architecture: i386 Source: xfree86 Version: 4.1.0-9 Replaces: xlib6g-dev (<< 4.0), libxaw-dev Provides: libxaw-dev Depends: xlibs-dev, libxaw6 Conflicts: xlib6g-dev (<< 4.0), libxaw-dev Size: 278410 Description: X Athena widget set library development files (version 6) Xaw header files and a static version of the Athena widget library are provided by this package, which supports Xaw6-based clients. . It is necessary for the symbol OLDXAW to be defined at compile time ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WTF? for the Athena library-using program to behave correctly; otherwise the header files in this package will exhibit Xaw7 behavior. So, can anyone in the audience explain what the point is of having two packages of headers if they BEHAVE THE SAME BY DEFAULT? Time for a nicely worded bug report to Debian, I think. I defined OLDXAW in config.h, and now things work with libxaw6-dev. I'll check what the libxaw7-dev headers do with OLDXAW defined, we might just be able to define it unconditionally. Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 17:53:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA24330; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:53:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA24257 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:51:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA24253 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:51:49 -0500 Received: from melancholia.danann.net (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA24247 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:51:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by melancholia.danann.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3532A2A818 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:51:38 +1100 (EST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2DB482134; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:51:02 +1100 (EST) To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: verifying PGP signed package-index files References: In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:28:27 +1000") From: Daniel Pittman Organization: Not today, thank you, Mother. Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:51:02 +1100 Message-ID: <87bshlkx7t.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Steve Youngs wrote: > I've got this working, but I'm wondering if we really need it or not. It would be nice to have, but it's probably not *necessary*. > I mean, as far as I can tell, this part of the XEmacs Package System > has never worked, and it was introduced in 1998. Obviously it was > never seen as important enough to do anything about. I was under the impression that it was being fixed by the maintainer of the package system, actually, though I can't think /why/ I "knew" this to be the case. ;) > Do the package-index files need to be PGP signed? Does anyone know > what the reasoning was behind the idea in the first place? Confidence in distribution. Since Emacs Lisp can run is the context of a user, including root, it's a security risk to just drag any old Lisp of the 'net and run it. PGP signing the package index means that the MD5 in there is very hard to spoof for an attacker, which means, in turn, that the package system will legitimately bitch when a modified package is downloaded. [...] > So, what would you like me to do; fix the PGP code and tell everyone > to stop whining and upgrade, or get rid of the PGP code in the > package tools altogether? Implement.:) Daniel -- A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. -- Bertrand Russell From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 17:49:48 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA24015; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:49:14 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA23958 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:48:04 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA23954 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:48:04 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.nortelnetworks.com [47.165.25.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23950 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:48:03 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fATMm2u12179 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:48:02 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:47:54 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id X7CSAYAF; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:46:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CB56S; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:46:46 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169Zy5-0003s6-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:47:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15366.47889.50523.327097@europe.nortel.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:47:45 +0100 To: Andy Piper , kai uwe tempel , XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <15366.42621.945738.493503@europe.nortel.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15366.42621.945738.493503@europe.nortel.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , > I defined OLDXAW in config.h, and now things work with libxaw6-dev. > I'll check what the libxaw7-dev headers do with OLDXAW defined, we > might just be able to define it unconditionally. And no, we can't define OLDXAW unconditionally, since the headers for xaw7 and xaw6 are _identical_. How convenient, it looks like we might have to start testing for particular versions of xaw now. Robert PS Kai, if things still don't work for you now, perhaps configuring with --ldflags="-z nocombreloc" is necessary for you after all. -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 19:57:28 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA32205; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:57:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA32170 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:56:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA32166 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:56:37 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA32162 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:56:35 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169bxk-0000wP-00; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:55:32 +0900 To: Robert Pluim Cc: Andy Piper , kai uwe tempel , XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15366.42621.945738.493503@europe.nortel.com> <15366.47889.50523.327097@europe.nortel.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 30 Nov 2001 09:55:31 +0900 In-Reply-To: <15366.47889.50523.327097@europe.nortel.com> Message-ID: <87d72113i4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Pluim writes: Robert> PS Kai, if things still don't work for you now, perhaps Robert> configuring with --ldflags="-z nocombreloc" is necessary Robert> for you after all. This will not be necessary from 21.4.6, it's autoconfiscated now. As for the Debian xaw, it's Branden "Prima Dragona" Robinson :(. Go ahead and file the bug report. I'll write Jim Lewis-Moss and karlheg, too. But I think a prominent entry in PROBLEMS that if you use Debian 'sid' any problems that stink of X should be reported to Debian first is appropriate. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Thu Nov 29 20:47:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA02523; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:47:11 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA02494 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:46:47 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA02490 for turnbull@tux.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:46:47 -0500 Received: from mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.172]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA02484; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:46:42 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240] (may be forged)) by mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAU1kdu08370; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:46:40 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15366.58955.388409.241707@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:52:11 +1000 To: Steve Youngs Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated packages in Pre-Release - Nov 30 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.99 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Rendhalver (Peter Brown)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > Hey there everyone. > > I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' > directory: > > New Packages in Pre-Release: > =========================== > vm-6.99-pkg.tar.gz installed fine on my box :) thanks steve -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter (Rendhalver) XEmacs Advocate http://www.xemacs.org/ Perl Hacker http://www.perl.com/ Apache God http://httpd.apache.org/ FreeBSD Devote http://www.FreeBSD.org/ rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net do not try and bend the spoon, thats impossible. but try to realise the truth. and that is? there is no spoon. - Neo and child Prodigy - The Matrix ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 03:39:50 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA26037; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:39:21 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA25903 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:38:11 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA25899 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:38:11 -0500 Received: from znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (znsgs0ja.nortelnetworks.com [47.165.25.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA25895 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:38:11 -0500 Received: from qnsgs000.nortel.com (znsgs016 [47.255.64.31]) by znsgs0ja.europe.nortel.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAU8cAu07117 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:38:10 GMT Received: from zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com by znsgs016; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:37:55 +0000 Received: from zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com (zvbnc0jb.europe.nortel.com [47.162.88.24]) by zwcwc012.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id X7CSBDH0; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:36:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (rpluim-1.europe.nortel.com [47.162.101.154]) by zvb1c002.europe.nortel.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR2CB58W; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:36:47 +0100 Received: from rpluim by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169jB8-0004q4-00; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:37:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15367.17753.778428.15951@europe.nortel.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:37:45 +0100 To: kai uwe tempel , XEmacs Developers Subject: Re: crash In-Reply-To: <87d72113i4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011128091354.00ba4870@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15364.41675.938090.126765@gw01.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <20011127160305.6049.qmail@pc59.phys.uni-leipzig.de> <15363.52320.440019.732839@europe.nortel.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011129095920.00bac100@san-francisco.beasys.com> <15366.42621.945738.493503@europe.nortel.com> <15366.47889.50523.327097@europe.nortel.com> <87d72113i4.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Robert From: Robert Pluim X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Stephen J. Turnbull writes: > >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Pluim writes: > > Robert> PS Kai, if things still don't work for you now, perhaps > Robert> configuring with --ldflags="-z nocombreloc" is necessary > Robert> for you after all. > > This will not be necessary from 21.4.6, it's autoconfiscated now. > > As for the Debian xaw, it's Branden "Prima Dragona" Robinson :(. I haven't dealt with him before, so I'll reserve judgement (I suspect in this case that it's more XFree than Debian that's to blame). > Go ahead and file the bug report. I'll write Jim Lewis-Moss and > karlheg, too. But I think a prominent entry in PROBLEMS that if > you use Debian 'sid' any problems that stink of X should be > reported to Debian first is appropriate. if you want to check on the status (nothing's happenned to it yet, as of 9:35 CET). Robert -- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 05:18:25 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA31094; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:18:12 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id FAA30985 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:16:11 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id FAA30981 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:16:11 -0500 Received: from mail.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (sanpo-gw.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.74.27]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA30975 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:16:09 -0500 Received: from u.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (u.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [10.2.0.15]) by mail.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.11.1+3.4W/3.7W/smtpfeed-1.07.1) with ESMTP id fAUAG7K31482 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:16:08 +0900 Mail-Copies-To: nobody To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Patch review From: Yoshiki Hayashi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 30 Nov 2001 19:16:07 +0900 Message-ID: <87k7w87ee0.fsf@u.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Lines: 13 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.15.3 (based on Oort Gnus v0.03) (revision 06) X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi, all. Sorry for being absent for quite a while. I recently started reading XEmacs lists again. There are huge pile of unread mail I should read but I hope I'll be able to restart reviewing patches within this year. I still can't spend many hours fixing XEmacs bugs but if you have somethong that falls into the area of my expertise, please resend them and I'll try to fix them. -- Yoshiki Hayashi From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 07:08:32 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA03670; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:08:24 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA03587 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:06:06 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA03583 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:06:06 -0500 Received: from mail.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (sanpo-gw.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.74.27]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA03579 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:06:05 -0500 Received: from u.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (u.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [10.2.0.15]) by mail.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.11.1+3.4W/3.7W/smtpfeed-1.07.1) with ESMTP id fAUC62K32697; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:06:03 +0900 Mail-Copies-To: nobody To: Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) Cc: XEmacs Beta List Subject: Re: Questions about history of man/texinfo.texi References: From: Yoshiki Hayashi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 30 Nov 2001 21:06:02 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Adrian Aichner's message of "22 Nov 2001 23:49:10 +0100") Message-ID: <877ks879at.fsf@u.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Lines: 20 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.15.3 (based on Oort Gnus v0.03) (revision 06) X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Adrian.Aichner@t-online.de (Adrian Aichner) writes: > Hacking on texi2html I found texinfo.texi to be badly structured > wrt. its @node structuring. > > texinfo.texi seems to be unique to XEmacs? > > I have not found it in GNU Emacs at > http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/emacs/emacs/man/ It's from GNU Texinfo. > Are there any objections against me trying to get the document > sections properly linked? No objections, but I would suggest updating texinfo.texi to the newer version from GNU Texinfo 4.0. -- Yoshiki Hayashi From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 11:34:23 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23167; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:33:47 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA22916 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:31:24 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA22906 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:31:24 -0500 Received: from petteflet.ntlworld.com (pc4-oxfo3-0-cust81.oxf.cable.ntl.com [213.105.158.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA22896; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:31:21 -0500 Received: by petteflet.ntlworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 160D6A7A19; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:31:24 +0100 (CET) To: XEmacs NT Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Customize & Windows in 21.4.6.RC1 From: Jan Vroonhof Date: 30 Nov 2001 17:31:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87wv08rzj8.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , I may not have to time to actually fix it, but I think the problem is that Windows has a completely unspecified value of the (face-font 'default) specifier, with the real value provided in the fallback. frob-face-property is probably not handling that case. It iterates over specifier-spec-list which is nil in this case. Ah, the joys of duplication the specifier resolving code in lisp. Jan From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 11:54:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26100; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:54:17 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA26028 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:53:40 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA26024 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:53:40 -0500 Received: from petteflet.ntlworld.com (pc4-oxfo3-0-cust81.oxf.cable.ntl.com [213.105.158.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26017 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:53:39 -0500 Received: by petteflet.ntlworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B305BA7A19; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:53:41 +0100 (CET) To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: verifying PGP signed package-index files References: From: Jan Vroonhof Date: 30 Nov 2001 17:53:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87snawryi2.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: >Do the package-index files need to be PGP signed? At the moment it is definitely causing more trouble than it is worth. It has got all kind of weird failure modes and got broken for good when the PGP format changed with PGP5 and pgp 2.6 didn't cope gracefully. > Does anyone know > what the reasoning was behind the idea in the first place? The reasoning was that by signing the MD5s in the package index, you could be reasonable sure of the origins of the packages. > Another thing that concerns me is that if I apply the patch to fix the > PGP stuff and then start signing the package-index files it'll bugger > up any XEmacsen that is pre-PGP-patch. > > So, what would you like me to do; fix the PGP code and tell everyone > to stop whining and upgrade, or get rid of the PGP code in the > package tools altogether? If you have working code that does reliable GPG verification I suggest having a separate signature (or a separate package-index.gpg file which is signed) so as to not hurt older XEmacsen and which newer once would pick up if it existed. Later we can then switch the default to require the .gpg file. Jan From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 11:58:03 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26580; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:58:02 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA26522 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:57:41 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA26518 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:57:40 -0500 Received: from petteflet.ntlworld.com (pc4-oxfo3-0-cust81.oxf.cable.ntl.com [213.105.158.81]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26511; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:57:39 -0500 Received: by petteflet.ntlworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7CC7EA7A19; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:57:37 +0100 (CET) To: Yoshiki Hayashi Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Patch review References: <87k7w87ee0.fsf@u.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> From: Jan Vroonhof Date: 30 Nov 2001 17:57:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87k7w87ee0.fsf@u.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Message-ID: <87n114rybi.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Hi Yoshiki, > I still can't spend many hours fixing XEmacs bugs but if you > have somethong that falls into the area of my expertise, > please resend them and I'll try to fix them. I have the same problem :-(. If you could have a look at fixing up the quirks with Matt's syntax changes, that would be perfect. Jan From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 12:33:19 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA31054; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:33:17 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA30596 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:29:35 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA30589 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:29:35 -0500 Received: from usmailrelay.beasys.com ([63.96.163.33]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA30557; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:29:25 -0500 Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by usmailrelay.beasys.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id fAUHTGV26697; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from shalom.bea.com ([192.168.11.196]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23550; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:29:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011130092840.00bac5d0@san-francisco.beasys.com> X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:29:02 -0800 To: Jan Vroonhof , XEmacs NT From: Andy Piper Subject: Re: Customize & Windows in 21.4.6.RC1 Cc: XEmacs Beta In-Reply-To: <87wv08rzj8.fsf@petteflet.ntlworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , At 05:31 PM 11/30/01 +0100, Jan Vroonhof wrote: >I may not have to time to actually fix it, but I think the problem is >that Windows has a completely unspecified value of the >(face-font 'default) specifier, with the real value provided in the >fallback. Can't we fix this? Seems like windows and UNIX should be alike in as many ways as possible. andy From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 12:52:38 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01155; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:52:22 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA00629 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:48:14 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA00623 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:48:13 -0500 Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00606; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:48:09 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 169rkZ-00037A-00; Sat, 01 Dec 2001 02:46:59 +0900 To: Andy Piper Cc: Jan Vroonhof , XEmacs NT , XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: Customize & Windows in 21.4.6.RC1 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011130092840.00bac5d0@san-francisco.beasys.com> Organization: University of Tsukuba From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: 01 Dec 2001 02:46:59 +0900 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011130092840.00bac5d0@san-francisco.beasys.com> Message-ID: <87oflkup64.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper writes: Andy> At 05:31 PM 11/30/01 +0100, Jan Vroonhof wrote: >> I may not have to time to actually fix it, but I think the >> problem is that Windows has a completely unspecified value of >> the (face-font 'default) specifier, with the real value >> provided in the fallback. Andy> Can't we fix this? Seems like windows and UNIX should be Andy> alike in as many ways as possible. We can, and we will. Jan's just saying that his feelings won't be hurt if somebody gets to it before he does. :-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 13:30:45 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06259; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:30:24 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA06074 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:28:55 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA06069 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:28:55 -0500 Received: from smtp1.insync.net (smtp1.insync.net [209.113.65.175]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06034 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:28:50 -0500 Received: from KEITH2K (64-9-152-131.insync.net [64.9.152.131] (may be forged)) by smtp1.insync.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAUISlh27393 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:28:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:28:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200111301828.fAUISlh27393@smtp1.insync.net> From: Keith Lancaster To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Minibuffer not clearing X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! The minibuffer now seems to retain the prompt for the last command used. Example: In HTML mode, I enter C-z h, which prompts for a URL. After completeing the operation, "URL:" remains in the minibuffer. All commands seem to work, but it keeps going back to "URL:" afterwords. Keith ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.6 \"Common Lisp (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.6\". Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using minimal tagbits. Using indexed lrecord implementation. Using portable dumper. 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e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-gen c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-gen e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-dbs c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-dbs e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-dbo c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-dbo e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-db c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-db e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-complete c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-complete e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-compile c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-compile e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-bug c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-bug e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\beanshell c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\beanshell) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((zenirc:version 1.11 :type regular) (xslt-process :version 1.05 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) 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Quit From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 14:44:14 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16396; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:43:21 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA16244 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:42:20 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA16240 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:42:20 -0500 Received: from mail017.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail017.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.179]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16232 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:42:19 -0500 Received: from slackware.mynet.pc (wdcax13-221.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.221]) by mail017.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAUJgBZ08978 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 06:42:12 +1100 Received: (from steve@localhost) by slackware.mynet.pc (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id fAU4BIL9015717; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:11:18 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never To: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated packages in Pre-Release - Nov 30 References: <15366.58955.388409.241707@ulthwe.dyndns.org> From: Steve Youngs X-Attribution: SY Organization: The XEmacs Development Team X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:11:18 +1000 In-Reply-To: <15366.58955.388409.241707@ulthwe.dyndns.org> (Peter Brown's message of "Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:52:11 +1000") Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , |--==> "PB" == Peter Brown writes: PB> Steve Youngs writes: >>New Packages in Pre-Release: >>=========================== >>vm-6.99-pkg.tar.gz PB> installed fine on my box :) And judging from your X-Mailer header, I'd say it runs fine too. :-) Thanks for letting me know. PB> thanks steve You're very welcome. -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------| From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 15:33:31 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22962; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:33:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA22930 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:32:59 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA22925 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:32:58 -0500 Received: from cx767414-b.irvn1.occa.home.com (cx767414-b.irvn1.occa.home.com [24.177.18.40]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22920 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:32:57 -0500 Received: from cx767414-b.irvn1.occa.home.com (hardy@localhost) by cx767414-b.irvn1.occa.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fAUKWvB15926 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:32:57 -0800 Message-Id: <200111302032.fAUKWvB15926@cx767414-b.irvn1.occa.home.com> To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Reply-to: mmayer@uci.edu Subject: Font problems Name: Meinhard E. Mayer, Research Professor Organization: Department of Physics, U C. Irvine. Ph. (949) 824-5543 X-Mailer: Gnu/Linux-RH 7.2 kernel 2.4.16; xemacs-21.4.5, nmh-1.0.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:32:57 -0800 From: "Meinhard E. Mayer" X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! Both in xemacs-21.4.5 and xemacs-21.5.3 (which I am trying for the first time) the font-selection does not work properly. 21.5.3 came uop with a HUGE New century schoolbook ... 310 font, and the font and font-size menus were greyed out. Using (set-font-face ...) I managed to get the font to a reasonable size and some of the fonts xfs provides show up in the selection menus. Also: Using the mouse to cut and paste does not work from xemacs into other window, and iincorrectly within xemacs (when I click the middle button, I get the equivalent of a yank, i.e., whatever was C-w-ed before gets pasted. This did not happen with the versions compiled without gtk/gnome. Neither did it happen with the original xemacs-gtk which Bill Perry developed and I tested extensively. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux cx767414-b 2.4.16 #4 Wed Nov 28 17:59:48 PST 2001 i686 unknown configure '--ldflags=-s' '--with-gtk' '--with-gnome' '--with-pop' '--with-sound=native' '--error-checking=none' XEmacs 21.5-b3 "asparagus" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /reserve/xemacs-21.5.3 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Using GTK menubars. Using GTK scrollbars. Using GTK dialog boxes. Using GTK native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. 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1.16 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.57 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.12 :type regular) (games :version 1.13 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (forms :version 1.13 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.13 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.34 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.01 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.08 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.01 :type regular) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (dictionary :version 1.0 :type regular) (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.02 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) (apel :version 1.2 :type regular)) Features: -------- (xemacsbug shadow tmh-comp tm-edit signature tm-ew-e sendmail bbdb-gui bbdb-hooks mail-extr mail-utils highlight-headers mh-seq bbdb-mhe mailcrypt rfc822 view-less view sh-script skeleton executable outline latex tex advice advice-preload efs-dired dired-faces dired-xemacs dired efs-x19.15 efs-fnh efs-ovwrt efs-netrc efs-defun comint ring efs efs-dump efs-cu package-ui package-get package-admin config gtk-font-menu font-menu font disp-table time tex-site header mh-comp tm-mh-e tm-bbdb bbdb-com tm-partial tm-image images mule-sysdp tm-pgp tm-play tm-view tm-text tm-parse tm-ew-d tm-def mel std11 mh-utils mh-e mime-setup tm-setup tl-misc tl-str tl-atype atype tl-seq tl-list alist cless file-detect path-util emu invisible inv-xemacs mcharset mcs-ltn1 pcustom poem poem-ltn1 pces pces-raw poe-xemacs timer overlay poe pym static apel-ver product resume bbdb timezone bookmark pp saveplace blink-cursor paren blink-paren font-lock cus-face zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-nomule-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads src-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks widgets-gtk dialog-gtk gtk-file-dialog gtk-password-dialog gtk-iso8859-1 x-iso8859-1 gdk gtk-ffi gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp gtk-scrollbars gtk-menubars gtk-ui gtk-dialogs gtk tty-frames tty toolbar esd-sound native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Composing a message...done Wrote /home/hardy/Mail/drafts/1 Composing a message... Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... XEmacs 21.5 (beta3) "asparagus" [Lucid] (i686-pc-linux) of Fri Nov 30 2001 on cx767414-b No current message Wrote /home/hardy/.bbdb Delete excess backup versions of /home/hardy/.bbdb? (y or n) Yes Delete excess backup versions of /home/hardy/.bbdb? (y or n) Save the BBDB now? (y or n) Yes Save the BBDB now? (y or n) Processing deletes and refiles for +inbox...done Processing deletes and refiles for +inbox... Sending...backgrounded Sending... Wrote /home/hardy/Mail/drafts/1 Exit MIME editor mode. Type C-c C-x C-z to exit MIME mode, and type C-c C-x ? to get help. -- Hardy (Meinhard E. Mayer) Professor Emeritus of Physics and Mathematics Tel: (949) 759-3378 Fax: (734) 448-5140 URL: http://mitpress2.mit.edu/sicm/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 17:42:49 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04537; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:42:17 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA04387 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:41:37 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA04383 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:41:37 -0500 Received: from spider.crnet.com (spider.crnet.com [208.242.241.92]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04373 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:41:35 -0500 Received: from mondas (inferno.limolink.com [206.24.61.91]) by spider.crnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10091 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:42:25 -0600 Message-ID: <007701c179f0$29aa8ec0$6501a8c0@mondas> From: "James N. Potts" To: "XEmacs Developers" Subject: looking at customize screws up C indenting Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:41:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. ================================================================ Dear Bug Team! Opening the "C" group: customize->emacs->programming->languages->c->c... will screw up indenting for previously opened buffers. For example, 1. create the following file (foo.c): ------------------- |int foo() |{ | int x, y; | | x = 1; | return x; |} ------------------- 2. highlight buffer, and C-M-\ (just to verify indenting works as expected) 3. open c customize buffer 4. switch back to c program buffer 5. highlight buffer, and C-M-\ 6. buffer changes to ------------------- |int foo() |{ | int x, y; | | x = 1; | return x; | } ------------------- Note that if you create new buffers, they indent normally. It's just the previously open c-mode buffers that are affected. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.5 \"Civil Service (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.5\". Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using minimal tagbits. Using indexed lrecord implementation. Using portable dumper. 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:type regular) (sh-script :version 1.13 :type regular) (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular) (semantic :version 1.1 :type regular) (scheme :version 1.11 :type regular) (rmail :version 1.12 :type regular) (reftex :version 1.23 :type regular) (psgml :version 1.23 :type regular) (ps-print-nomule :version 1.05 :type regular) (prog-modes :version 1 .42 :type single-file) (pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular) (pcl-cvs :version 1.55 :type regular) (pc :version 1.2 :type single-file) (os-utils :version 1.25 :type single-file) (net-utils :version 1.23 :type single-file) (misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file) (mine :version 1.14 :type regular) (mh-e :version 1.13 :type regular) (mew :version 1.14 :type regular) (mailcrypt :version 2.09 :type regular) (mail-lib :version 1.39 :type regular) (jde :version 1.3 :type regular) (ispell :version 1.23 :type regular) (ilisp :version 1.19 :type regular) (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular) (idlwave :version 1.23 :type regular) (hm--html-menus :version 1.16 :type regular) (gnus :version 1.57 :type regular) (gnats :version 1.12 :type regular) (games :version 1.13 :type regular) (fsf-compat :version 1.09 :type single-file) (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular) (forms :version 1.13 :type regular) (footnote :version 1.13 :type regular) (eudc :version 1.34 :type regular) (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular) (eshell :version 1.01 :type regular) (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular) (elib :version 1.08 :type single-file) (eieio :version 1.01 :type regular) (eicq :version 1.05 :type regular) (efs :version 1.26 :type regular) (edt :version 1.12 :type regular) (edit-utils :version 1.7 :type single-file) (ediff :version 1.33 :type regular) (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular) (dired :version 1.11 :type regular) (debug :version 1.14 :type regular) (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular) (cookie :version 1.13 :type regular) (cc-mode :version 1.26 :type regular) (calendar :version 1.16 :type regular) (calc :version 1.17 :type regular) (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file) (build :version 1.02 :type regular) (bbdb :version 1.16 :type regular) (auctex :version 1.25 :type regular) (apel :version 1.2 :type regular) (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail semantic-c semantic-util semantic working func-menu hideif cmacexp font-lock vhdl-mode regexp-opt hippie-exp assoc xrdb-mode winmgr-mode crontab-edit sh-script skeleton executable xscheme scheme psgml-xemacs sgml-mode psgml verilog-mode tcl simula-mode rexx-mode python-mode comint ring mode-compile-kill mode-compile pp bytecomp byte-compile fortran cperl-mode ada-mode info hyper-apropos man package-get package-admin build pcl-cvs diff-mode advice advice-preload pcl-cvs-parse pcl-cvs-info pcl-cvs-defs pcl-cvs-util cvs-compat dired-faces dired-xemacs dired cookie dll elib-node compile build-report config cus-edit cus-load cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine cc-styles cc-langs cc-vars wid-edit cc-menus imenu cc-defs efs-cu cus-face zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-nomule-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows toolbar native-sound scrollbar network-streams subprocesses menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user button1 button1up TAB down TAB down TAB TAB up up up home Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-up C-M-\ M-x r e p TAB o TAB r t - e m TAB RET Recent messages (most recent first): 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Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Making completion list... Making completion list... Indenting region... done Indenting region... Creating customization buffer...done Creating customization setup... Creating group... done Creating group state... Creating group magic... Creating group... Creating customization items... Creating customization buttons... Creating customization buffer... Loading semantic-c...done Loading semantic-c... Loading func-menu...done Loading func-menu... From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 18:36:10 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10356; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:36:08 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA10278 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:35:16 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA10274 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:35:16 -0500 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10263; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:35:12 -0500 Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 169xBY-0004OU-0B; Sat, 01 Dec 2001 00:35:12 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.12.52]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 169xBV-17c7eKC; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:35:09 +0100 Cc: XEmacs Beta List Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: Re: [PATCH] visual-basic-mode.el References: X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Lines: 80 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Posted-To: comp.emacs.xemacs X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs as well. >>>>> "lemburg" == lemburg writes: lemburg> Since I had to wrestle with Visual Basic yesterday, I had lemburg> to correct some minor problems with visual-basic-mode.el lemburg> to make it working with my WinNT Xemacs ("XEmacs 21.4 lemburg> (patch 3) \"Academic Rigor\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of lemburg> Thu May 17 2001 on SHALOM"). lemburg> Disclaimer: I am not entirely sure if this is the right lemburg> group to post to, but since I could not find out with lemburg> certainty where to post a patch regarding lemburg> visual-basic-mode.el under xemacs, I resolved to post it lemburg> here. Hi lemburg, where did you get visual-basic-mode.el? Which version are you using? You should feed back to the maintainer of that made. xemacs-beta (which I have copied) is also a good place to ask questions about XEmacs package integration/ownership. Hope this helps, Adrian lemburg> Cheers, lemburg> Christian Lemburg lemburg> --- d:\tools\emacs\visual-basic\visual-basic-mode.el Thu Nov 29 09:54:46 2001 lemburg> +++ D:\home\emacs\visual-basic\visual-basic-mode.el Thu Nov 29 12:41:03 2001 lemburg> @@ -358,14 +358,14 @@ lemburg> ;; Any keywords you like. lemburg> (list (concat "\\<" (regexp-opt lemburg> - '("Dim" "If" "Then" "Else" "ElseIf" "End If") t) lemburg> + '("Dim" "If" "Then" "Else" "ElseIf" "End If") t t) lemburg> "\\>") lemburg> 1 'font-lock-keyword-face)))) lemburg> (defvar visual-basic-font-lock-keywords-2 lemburg> (append visual-basic-font-lock-keywords-1 lemburg> (eval-when-compile lemburg> - `((,(concat "\\<" (regexp-opt visual-basic-all-keywords t) "\\>") lemburg> + `((,(concat "\\<" (regexp-opt visual-basic-all-keywords t t) "\\>") lemburg> 1 font-lock-keyword-face))))) lemburg> (defvar visual-basic-font-lock-keywords visual-basic-font-lock-keywords-1) lemburg> @@ -413,7 +413,7 @@ lemburg> (make-local-variable 'imenu-generic-expression) lemburg> (setq imenu-generic-expression visual-basic-imenu-generic-expression) lemburg> - (set (make-local-variable 'imenu-syntax-alist) '(("_" . "w"))) lemburg> + (set (make-local-variable 'imenu-syntax-alist) `((,(string-to-char "_") . "w"))) lemburg> (set (make-local-variable 'imenu-case-fold-search) t) lemburg> ;(make-local-variable 'visual-basic-associated-files) ; doing this here means we need not check to see if it is bound later. lemburg> @@ -435,10 +435,10 @@ lemburg> (cond ((boundp 'font-lock-defaults) lemburg> (make-local-variable 'font-lock-defaults) lemburg> (setq font-lock-defaults lemburg> - '((visual-basic-font-lock-keywords lemburg> + `((visual-basic-font-lock-keywords lemburg> visual-basic-font-lock-keywords-1 lemburg> visual-basic-font-lock-keywords-2) lemburg> - nil t (("_" . "w"))))) lemburg> + nil t ((,(string-to-char "_") . "w"))))) lemburg> (t lemburg> (make-local-variable 'font-lock-keywords) lemburg> (setq font-lock-keywords visual-basic-font-lock-keywords))) -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 18:29:20 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09435; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:29:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA09409 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:28:48 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA09405 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:28:48 -0500 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.de (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09383; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:28:33 -0500 Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 169x4v-0004OU-0A; Sat, 01 Dec 2001 00:28:21 +0100 Received: from D5DC120J.t-online.de (520002458184-0001@[217.229.12.52]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 169x4l-0RlwG0C; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:28:11 +0100 To: Keith Lancaster Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: Minibuffer not clearing References: <200111301828.fAUISlh27393@smtp1.insync.net> X-Face: 4[iHdXiTu\V3u[~\I)*}#kYF[-tYl3VZga/HSOP|K,{L Rtu@f0y/=O&Cu}\:~d|P$JON?pn?j,&CnPb1z#/TL9bkAJwyol&a:SvYj-VYbM=Dtxhk9 =w|R6U3_;SH&B Message-ID: <4rnbx2hj.fsf@mailto.t-online.de> Lines: 316 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp (candidate 1)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender: 520002458184-0001@t-dialin.net X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , >>>>> "Keith" == Keith Lancaster writes: Keith> This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, Keith> not to your local site managers!! Keith> Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have Keith> translators to read other languages for them. Keith> Please describe as succinctly as possible: Keith> - What happened. Keith> - What you thought should have happened. Keith> - Precisely what you were doing at the time. Keith> Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have. Keith> ================================================================ Keith> Dear Bug Team! Keith> The minibuffer now seems to retain the prompt for the last command Keith> used. Example: In HTML mode, I enter C-z h, which prompts for a Keith> URL. After completeing the operation, "URL:" remains in the Keith> minibuffer. All commands seem to work, but it keeps going back to Keith> "URL:" afterwords. Keith> Keith Keith> ================================================================ Keith> System Info to help track down your bug: Keith> --------------------------------------- Keith> OS version: Keith> Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] Keith> OS: Windows_NT Keith> XEmacs 21.4.6 \"Common Lisp (Windows)\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Keith> Building XEmacs in \"f:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4\\nt\". Keith> Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". Keith> Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.6\". Keith> Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". Keith> Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Keith> Compiling in support for XPM images. Keith> Compiling in support for GIF images. Keith> Compiling in support for PNG images. Keith> Compiling in support for TIFF images. Keith> Compiling in support for JPEG images. Keith> Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Keith> Compiling in support for toolbars. Keith> Compiling in support for dialogs. Keith> Compiling in support for widgets. Keith> Compiling in support for native sounds. Keith> Compiling in fast dired implementation. Keith> Using minimal tagbits. Keith> Using indexed lrecord implementation. Keith> Using portable dumper. Keith, these Load-Path Lisp Shadows are not good. What's the stuff in e:\xemacs\HOME\site? Adrian Keith> Load-Path Lisp Shadows: Keith> ---------------------- Keith> (e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\setnu c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\edit-utils\setnu Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\tree-widget c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\tree-widget Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-wiz c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-wiz Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-widgets c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-widgets Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-which-method c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-which-method Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-stat c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-stat Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-run c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-run Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-parse c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-parse Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-package c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-package Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-make c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-make Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-javadoc c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-javadoc Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-javadoc-gen c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-javadoc-gen Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-java-grammar c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-java-grammar Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-java-font-lock c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-java-font-lock Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-import c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-import Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-imenu c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-imenu Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-help c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-help Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-gen c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-gen Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-dbs c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-dbs Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-dbo c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-dbo Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-db c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-db Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-complete c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-complete Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-compile c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-compile Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\jde-bug c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\jde-bug Keith> e:\xemacs\HOME\site\jde-2.2.8\lisp\beanshell c:\Program Keith> Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\beanshell) Keith> Installed XEmacs Packages: Keith> ------------------------- Keith> ((zenirc:version 1.11 :type regular) Keith> (xslt-process :version 1.05 :type regular) Keith> (xemacs-devel :version 1.38 :type single-file) Keith> (xemacs-base :version 1.55 :type regular) Keith> (w3 :version 1.2 :type regular) Keith> (vm :version 6.96 :type regular) Keith> (viper :version 1.28 :type regular) Keith> (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) Keith> (vhdl :version 1.13 :type regular) Keith> (vc-cc :version 1.16 :type regular) Keith> (vc :version 1.28 :type regular) Keith> (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular) Keith> (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) Keith> (tm :version 1.29 :type regular) Keith> (time :version 1.11 :type regular) Keith> (textools :version 1.12 :type 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:version 1.2 :type regular) Keith> (ada :version 1.1 :type regular) Keith> (Sun :version 1.13 :type regular)) Keith> Features: Keith> -------- Keith> (mail-abbrevs info xemacsbug shadow view-less view hyper-apropos Keith> dabbrev psgml-dtd psgml-parse psgml-edit sendmail psgml-xemacs Keith> sgml-mode psgml psgml-html bookmark pp lazy-lock tex-site jde Keith> executable jde-package jde-import jde-which-method jde-stat Keith> jde-javadoc jde-javadoc-gen jde-java-font-lock jde-bug jde-dbs jde-dbo Keith> jde-help jde-wiz jde-widgets tree-widget jde-complete senator eldoc Keith> timer beanshell browse-url jde-gen tempo jde-make compile jde-run Keith> jde-db jde-parse jde-imenu regexp-opt semantic-imenu jde-java-grammar Keith> semantic-java eieio advice advice-preload avltree stack-m elib-node Keith> semantic-ctxt semantic-bnf semantic-sb speedbar sb-image dframe Keith> semantic-util assoc semantic working gud tags etags comint ring Keith> jde-compile cus-edit cus-load cc-mode cc-align cc-cmds cc-engine Keith> cc-styles cc-langs cc-vars wid-edit cc-menus imenu cc-defs Keith> semantic-load scroll-in-place rsz-minibuf func-menu font-lock Keith> filladapt crypt crypt++ completer efs-cu efs-x19.15 efs-fnh efs-ovwrt Keith> efs-auto cus-face dired-faces dired-xemacs dired env pending-del Keith> zenirc-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads Keith> xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads Keith> view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads Keith> tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads Keith> textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads Keith> supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads Keith> sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads Keith> sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads Keith> rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads psgml-autoloads Keith> ps-print-nomule-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads Keith> pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads Keith> misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads Keith> mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads Keith> ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads Keith> hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads Keith> games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads Keith> forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads Keith> eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads Keith> eicq-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads Keith> ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads Keith> debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads Keith> calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads Keith> bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Keith> Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds Keith> gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer Keith> auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete Keith> help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start Keith> custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote Keith> very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows toolbar Keith> native-sound scrollbar network-streams subprocesses Keith> menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg Keith> xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices Keith> window-system base64) Keith> Recent keystrokes: Keith> ----------------- Keith> C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s left RET down down Keith> down down down down down down down down down down down Keith> down down down down down down down down down down down Keith> down down down down down down down down down down down Keith> down down down down down down down down down up C-home Keith> right right right right right right right right right Keith> right right right right right right right up down up Keith> up up down button2 button2up misc-user misc-user misc-user Keith> misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user Keith> misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user Keith> misc-user button1 button1up misc-user misc-user Keith> Recent messages (most recent first): Keith> ----------------------------------- Keith> Loading mail-abbrevs... Keith> Going up...done Keith> Going up... Keith> Updating speedbar to: c:\Program Files\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.4.6\info\...done Keith> Updating speedbar to: c:\Program Files\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.4.6\info\... Keith> Following cross-reference Buffers...done Keith> Following cross-reference Buffers... Keith> Selecting menu item Glossary...done Keith> Selecting menu item Glossary... Keith> Composing main Info directory...done Keith> Composing main Info directory... Keith> Creating temporary dir in c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\info\...done Keith> (New file) Keith> Creating temporary dir in c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\info\... Keith> Loading info...done Keith> Loading info... Keith> Quit Keith> Loading xemacsbug...done Keith> Loading xemacsbug... Keith> Quit -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian@xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 19:24:29 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA16249; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:24:06 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA16209 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:23:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA16202 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:23:49 -0500 Received: from mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.176]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA16175; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:23:35 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240] (may be forged)) by mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fB10NXO25059; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 11:23:33 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15368.9298.479501.956461@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:29:06 +1000 To: Steve Youngs Cc: XEmacs Beta Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated packages in Pre-Release - Nov 30 In-Reply-To: References: <15366.58955.388409.241707@ulthwe.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.99 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Rendhalver (Peter Brown)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Steve Youngs writes: > |--==> "PB" == Peter Brown writes: > > PB> Steve Youngs writes: > >>New Packages in Pre-Release: > >>=========================== > >>vm-6.99-pkg.tar.gz > > PB> installed fine on my box :) > > And judging from your X-Mailer header, I'd say it runs fine too. :-) > Thanks for letting me know. :) will let you know if it breaks -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter (Rendhalver) XEmacs Advocate http://www.xemacs.org/ Perl Hacker http://www.perl.com/ Apache God http://httpd.apache.org/ FreeBSD Devote http://www.FreeBSD.org/ rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net do not try and bend the spoon, thats impossible. but try to realise the truth. and that is? there is no spoon. - Neo and child Prodigy - The Matrix ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 20:56:30 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA26455; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:56:07 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA26380 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:55:31 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA26376 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:55:31 -0500 Received: from mail004.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail004.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.228]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA26370 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:55:30 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240] (may be forged)) by mail004.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fB11tRJ05168 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:55:28 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15368.14813.152866.109953@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:01:01 +1000 To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: using gnuclient to process mailto: links X-Mailer: VM 6.99 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Rendhalver (Peter Brown)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , hi all i have been trying to workout how to use gnuclient to process mailto: links from my web browser (galeon) i have tried these commands followed by the error i got $gnuclient -f "mail xemacs-beta@xemacs.org" (6) (error/warning) Error in process filter: (void-variable xemacs-beta@xemacs.org) $ gnuclient -f "vm-mail xemacs-beta@xemacs.org" (8) (error/warning) Error in process filter: (void-variable xemacs-beta@xemacs.org) can someone let me know what im doing wrong ?? or where to look for docs ?? thanks -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter (Rendhalver) XEmacs Advocate http://www.xemacs.org/ Perl Hacker http://www.perl.com/ Apache God http://httpd.apache.org/ FreeBSD Devote http://www.FreeBSD.org/ rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net do not try and bend the spoon, thats impossible. but try to realise the truth. and that is? there is no spoon. - Neo and child Prodigy - The Matrix ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 21:25:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA30460; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:25:05 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA30223 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:23:08 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA30219 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:23:08 -0500 Received: from melancholia.danann.net (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA30211 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:23:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by melancholia.danann.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BA72A818 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:23:04 +1100 (EST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D6108219B; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:22:59 +1100 (EST) To: "Rendhalver (Peter Brown)" Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: using gnuclient to process mailto: links References: <15368.14813.152866.109953@ulthwe.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <15368.14813.152866.109953@ulthwe.dyndns.org> (Peter Brown's message of "Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:01:01 +1000") From: Daniel Pittman Organization: Not today, thank you, Mother. Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 13:22:58 +1100 Message-ID: <871yifof0d.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Peter Brown wrote: > i have been trying to workout how to use gnuclient to process mailto: > links from my web browser (galeon) > > i have tried these commands > followed by the error i got > > $gnuclient -f "mail xemacs-beta@xemacs.org" > > (6) (error/warning) Error in process filter: (void-variable > xemacs-beta@xemacs.org) Oooh, /that's/ a feature. I didn't know you could pass arguments on a -f line... Anyway, you need to quote the value as a string, not pass it as a symbol. So: $gnuclient -f "mail \"xemacs-beta@xemacs.org\"" Daniel -- The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. -- Abraham Lincoln From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 21:29:07 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA30973; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:29:01 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA30854 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:28:03 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA30850 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:28:03 -0500 Received: from mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.176]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA30845 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:28:02 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240] (may be forged)) by mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fB12RwO15339; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:27:58 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15368.16763.556534.770550@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:33:31 +1000 To: Daniel Pittman Cc: "Rendhalver (Peter Brown)" , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: using gnuclient to process mailto: links In-Reply-To: <871yifof0d.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> References: <15368.14813.152866.109953@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <871yifof0d.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.99 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Rendhalver (Peter Brown)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Daniel Pittman writes: > On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Peter Brown wrote: > > i have been trying to workout how to use gnuclient to process mailto: > > links from my web browser (galeon) > > > > i have tried these commands > > followed by the error i got > > > > $gnuclient -f "mail xemacs-beta@xemacs.org" > > > > (6) (error/warning) Error in process filter: (void-variable > > xemacs-beta@xemacs.org) > > Oooh, /that's/ a feature. I didn't know you could pass arguments on a -f > line... > > Anyway, you need to quote the value as a string, not pass it as a > symbol. So: > > $gnuclient -f "mail \"xemacs-beta@xemacs.org\"" just tried that mail didnt have the to address but if i do $gnuclient -f "vm-mail \"xemacs-beta@xemacs.org\"" it does thanks daniel :) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter (Rendhalver) XEmacs Advocate http://www.xemacs.org/ Perl Hacker http://www.perl.com/ Apache God http://httpd.apache.org/ FreeBSD Devote http://www.FreeBSD.org/ rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net do not try and bend the spoon, thats impossible. but try to realise the truth. and that is? there is no spoon. - Neo and child Prodigy - The Matrix ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Fri Nov 30 21:41:13 2001 Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA32547; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:41:03 -0500 Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA32425 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:40:12 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA32420 for turnbull@tux.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:40:12 -0500 Received: from mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.176]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA32410 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:40:09 -0500 Received: from ulthwe.dyndns.org (c1377.rochd1.qld.optusnet.com.au [203.164.193.240] (may be forged)) by mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fB12e8O26825; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:40:08 +1100 From: Peter Brown Message-ID: <15368.17493.569675.908901@ulthwe.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:45:41 +1000 To: Daniel Pittman Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Subject: Re: using gnuclient to process mailto: links In-Reply-To: <87vgfrmzvw.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> References: <15368.14813.152866.109953@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <871yifof0d.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> <15368.16763.556534.770550@ulthwe.dyndns.org> <87vgfrmzvw.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.99 under 21.4 (patch 6) "Common Lisp (candidate 1)" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Rendhalver (Peter Brown)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-XEmacs-List: beta Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Daniel Pittman writes: > On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Peter Brown wrote: > > Daniel Pittman writes: > > [...] > > > > $gnuclient -f "mail \"xemacs-beta@xemacs.org\"" > > > > just tried that mail didnt have the to address > > > > but if i do > > $gnuclient -f "vm-mail \"xemacs-beta@xemacs.org\"" > > > > it does > > Cool. I shouldn't have assumed that you had already checked the function > prototype for the `mail' function to ensure that it supported that > argument. Anyway, glad to help. now i just have to workout how to get gnome to use that commend for mailto: links > > Daniel > > -- > The world would be a better place if Larry Wall had been born in > Iceland, or any other country where the native language actually > has syntax. > -- Peter da Silva > like the sig dude :) v cool -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter (Rendhalver) XEmacs Advocate http://www.xemacs.org/ Perl Hacker http://www.perl.com/ Apache God http://httpd.apache.org/ FreeBSD Devote http://www.FreeBSD.org/ rendhalver@users.sourceforge.net do not try and bend the spoon, thats impossible. but try to realise the truth. and that is? there is no spoon. - Neo and child Prodigy - The Matrix -------------------------------------------------------------------------