sig segv cut-n-paste issue with 10^6 lines
Vladimir G. Ivanovic
vgivanovic at comcast.net
Tue Feb 6 01:43:03 EST 2007
Thanks.
--- Vladimir
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Vladimir G. Ivanovic writes:
>
> > Is there somewhere I could find out more about the differences between
> > the FSF and XEmacs byte compilers
>
> Yes. In the source code.
>
> > and (hopefully) the reasons for those differences? (Google was
> > unhelpful and I didn't see anything in the byte-*.el files.)
>
> The reason for the difference is historical and legal. In 1997-1998
> XEmacs added Mule which required some changes, and also did a lot of
> work on optimizing the byte compiler. Martin Buchholz offered to port
> the XEmacs improvements to GNU Emacs (AFAIK copyright is assigned to
> the FSF) around 1999 when he was at ETL, but was turned down because
> of the Great Redisplay Rewrite; Gerd didn't have time.
>
> Since then GNU has added a very divergent version of Mule and done its
> own optimizing. AFAIK they never contacted Martin, and of course it's
> very possible that the offer to do the work was no longer open.
> Without Martin's personal involvement to testify that the code was not
> polluted with unassigned code, it's unlikely that the FSF lawyers
> would permit the XEmacs code into GNU Emacs.
>
> Of course we could port GNU improvements in the other direction, but
> we have a working, reasonably well-optimized byte compiler and
> interpreter. In fact, as of Python 2.0 I think it was, the XEmacs
> byte code was about 10% faster on a meaningless benchmark than
> Python's VM. But actually there is meaning there: there probably is
> very little efficiency improvement that can be squeezed out of the
> XEmacs virtual machine without changing Emacs Lisp.
>
> There are also a fair number of minor differences in philosophy, which
> you will find oblique references to in comments in the bytecode system
> implementation.
>
> All this could be worked out, I suppose, but what is the gain to be
> expected from that?
>
>
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